the great zest gone. muhammad ali, boxing legend, civil rights activist died at the age of 74 last night. for decades ali was perhaps the most famous man on the plant. his journey also amazing. finally it's the end of primary season. virgin islands today, puerto rico tomorrow. then the big states this tuesday including california and new

jersey and the presidential campaign is becoming more of a brutal battleground than ever. more violence outside a donald trump rally this time in san jose. some say trump created the climate. hillary clinton's gloves are off as she uses trump's own words to portray him unfit to serve, but did she get the best of him but only engage him where he thrives, in a street fight? and trump's relationship with the press goes from dismissive to contentious to hostile and the feeling seems mutual, but after decades of bashing by talk radio does the main stream media have any credibility remaining? and bernie sanders makes a last play for california. can he prevent hillary clinton from locking up the nomination? >> but first, he called himself the greatest and with good reason. as cassius clay he won the olympic gold medal, golden gloves title and then as

muhammad ali he became the worl's most famous conscientious objector to the vietnam war and was stripped of his title and banned from the sport. wolf blitzer has more on this incredible story. >> muhammad ali first put on a pair of boxing gloves at age 12 and six years later burst on to the scene as a brash, but talented champion at the 1960 olympics. his star and voice rising as he turned pro, ali stepped up against sonny liston for the heavyweight title four years later. >> it's going to take a big man to whoop me. i'm loaded with confidence.

when liston could not answer the bell for round 7 cassius clay had arrived. >> come here. >> i'm the greatest thing that ever lived. >> reporter: but almost quickly as he had arrived he was gone. after joining the nation of islam, clay changed his name to muhammad ali. he criticized the vietnam war and refused induction into the army. the year was 1967. he was sentenced to five years in prison which he never served and was stripped of his heavyweight championship and suspended from boxing for three years. the u.s. supreme court reversed his conviction in 1971. ali's undefeated record as a professional came to an end in '71 when he lost to joe frazier in 15 rounds. it was the first of three fights with smoking joe, culminating the famous thriller in manila which ali won after the 14th

round. after two decades of redefining the heavyweight division ali retired with a ring record of 56 victories and just five defeats. in 1984 he was diagnosed as suffering from parkinson's syndrome, but while over time his voice was quieted, his spirit was not. he provided one of the emotional high points of the 1996 summer olympic games in atlanta when with trembling hands he lit the olympic torch. in 2005 ali joined the company of people like former president jimmy carter and pope john paul ii and won the highest civilian award. muhammad ali, one of the charismatic figures in sports history and he knew it. >> i am the greatest. >> the first thing that sprang into my mind on hearing of ali's passing was not the frazier or foreman fights, it was chuck we

ner. because it was the fight that inspired silvester stallone to bang out the script for "rocky." the only time he was off his feet was when ali sent him to the canvas in the 15th round. a movie about wener is going to be released this year. mr. wepner, what was it like to climb into the ring with muhammad ali? >> it was great. i was excited and i was ready and it was the greatest night of my life. and i was ready for ali. i just wasn't ready for how great he was. you know, i could have fought anybody that night and probably beat them because i trained full-time. the only time in my career of 20 years i went away to camp at

all. so by the time the bell rang i was ready for ali. he was just so great that even in as great a shape as i was in i wasn't good enough. >> you are the real deal. he gave you a shot at that title. how did that make you feel? >> it made me feel great. i earned it too. i was ranked eighth in the world and he'd beaten just about everybody in the top ten and they were looking for a white heavyweight contender to fight ali. and i was the only one left. i was ranked eighth in the world and i earned my shot and he gave it to me which i'll forever be happy with. >> you reference being a white fighter. what was the hype like for that fight? because i know there was some aspects of it that made you uncomfortable and others that you engaged in. talk to me about that.

>> well, you know, i was a white contender and he tried to make it into a racial bout. he tried to get me to use the n word and hype up the fight and i wouldn't do that and years later he told the press how much he respected me because i wouldn't be taken in with that kind of a rhus and i wouldn't use the n word and as a matter of fact they everyone made big buttons for the fight, give the white guy a break. and you know, it was -- he promoted the fight magnificently and they made a lot of money with that fight. we caught the interest of the public and i put up a very good fight going 15 rounds. >> what was the most feared weapon that he had in his arsenal? >> i would have to say his jab. he jabbed and hooked off his jab. he was, you know, very hard to escape his jab, because he did two and three in a row. the 9th round when i dropped

him, before that my manager said to me, his jab is falling down and he's getting lazy with it and the next time he throws it, slip under and hit him to the body and that's just what i hit him with, a right hand under the heart. i caught him, he was off balance and i dropped him and that was a knock down. >> when you were knocked down and i mentioned at the outset it was the only time that someone had sent chuck wepner to the canvas, what kind of a punch was it that he hit you with? >> it was the 13th round. i was exhausted. that's an hour in the ring chasing ali. it was a tough fight and my legs felt a little weak and he hit me off the left shoulder and caught me in the side of the head. the left shoulder and the side of the head and i went down. i knew where i was. i heard the count. i got up at eight and the referee asked me if i was all

right and i said yeah and then he waives off the fight. he said i looked like i was groggy and that's what happened. >> i'm so grateful to have you to be able to share the unique perspective of fighting muhammad ali, but talk to me now about the man, because i know that you have immense respect for muhammad ali, the legend. >> tremendous respect. you know, i got to know him personally. he became a personal friend of mine and we actually toured after that fight for almost a month. i played mr. tooth decay fighting ali and i would knock him down and they would brush his teeth and they would come back to life and they were trying to get the kids of washington, d.c. to brush their teeth more and i got to know him personally and i -- through the years including his birthday party about three years ago, 70th birthday party, myself, foreman, norton, spinks, a bunch of guys went out to las vegas.

they brought us out there and they had us share his birthday party with him. bob paid for everything, brought us out there. bob is a great promoter and a great man and he treated us very well that night. three days we spent with him and we had a terrific time. >> tell me before you leave me the n the. >> i went out and bought my wife a blue negligie and i said wear this to bed tonight when you sleep with me because you'll be sleeping with the greatest fighter in the world. >> she says am i going to ali's room or is he coming to mine? she had a real dry wit and you know, that story goes a long way

because it's true, you know, and my wife was a good sport. >> it's a great story from the bayonne bleeder. i wish good things for chuck wepner. >> thank you so much and thank you for calling me. >> thank you for being here to mourn the loss of your friend and former opponent. tweet me your thoughts. more on the death of legend muhammad ali at the age of 74 and donald trump is attacking the federal judge hearing the class action fraud case against trump university saying the judge is biased because of his mexican heritage. mr. trump might be picking on the wrong guy. thanks for the ride around norfolk! and i just wanted to say, geico is proud to have served the military for over 75 years!

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this week donald trump went after the federal judge who's overseeing two class action lawsuits now pending against trump university. his attack on judge sent shock waves through legal circles. he claimed the judge was a hater appointed by president obama who he believed was in fact mexican. the judge is an american born in east chicago, indiana and he's a former federal prosecutor who was once targeted by mexican drug cartels. trump never theless defended himself to jake tapper. >> i have had ruling after ruling after ruling that's been bad rulings. i've been treated very unfairly. before that we had another judge. if that judge was still there this would have been over two years ago. i've been treated very unfairly by this judge. now, this judge is of mexican ter taj. i'm building a wall. okay? i'm building a wall. i am going to do very well with hispanics. >> so no mexican judge could be a judge in a case that involves

you? >> thus far trump's lawyers have not filed a recusal motion to remove the judge. joining me now, author of the brand new book american profit is jeffrey rosen who is the president and ceo of the national constitution center. i'm concerned that people in a political context might think, well, this is par for the course. help me explain how unusual this is. >> that new york times piece this morning that you talked about explains it very well. and it's very unusual for a litigant to attack a judge, but what's more unusual is that donald trump said if i become president we might have a civil suit against this judge, okay? that would be very unusual. and it's fine for a president to attack individual cases, to criticize constitutional rulings, but to suggest that he would not obey the rule of law

and actually attempt to overturn it might violate the president's constitutional duty to take care that the laws are faithfully executed. so it is extremely unusual to suggest that donald trump would not abide by the ruling on this case. >> can we also underscore that there is a process, where in fact there is evidence of bias on the part of a member of the bench where you file a motion for recusal, and his attorneys haven't done that. >> absolutely right. and of course, the notion as jake tapper was getting at, that a judge would be biased merely because of his heritage would be unlikely to persuade any reviewing body. so it's an extremely -- he's really going out on a limb here. >> take a look at donald trump at a rally this week speaking on this issue. roll it. >> i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump, a hater. he's a hater. he is the judge who happens to

believe is mexican, which is great. i think that's fine. >> you've just written this book on justice brandice. let's carry to conclusion where trump's logic if i can use that word takes us. it would mean that an african american couldn't preside in a case concerning discrimination or in a child kus by case i could say remove her, she's biased against me. >> in his confirmation hearings there were words of accusing him of being unscrupulous. but no one suggested that because he was jewish he couldn't rule on cases involving jews. it's an unusual claim that if you are a member of a particular

race or earthnicity you're bias. >> if i as an attorney could not make extra judicial statements like he's just gotten away with, and he's run afoul of the code of conduct. >> first amendment right although he said he wants to open up the libel laws and make it easier for politicians to sue those against him. he was the greatest champion of free expression and privacy as well as the greatest critic of bigness in business and government since thomas jefferson. it's a great time to honor his legacy. he reconciled populism with constitutionalism. >> thank you for being here. good luck with the book. >> thank you so much. more of cnn's continuing coverage of the life of boxing great muhammad ali who died last night at the age of 74. and this. the media is asking tough

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he passed last night in phoenix. he was 74 years old. now with securing the gop nomination comes increased scrutiny. the media has buckled down asking donald trump to clarify policy, pointing out inconsistencies and falsehoods and he's not taking it well. trump has been name calling and avoiding answers. as the washington post just wrote, the media have reached a turning point in covering donald trump and he may not survive it. a key milestone was another washington post story by one of my next guests. four months after trump claimed to raise $6 million for military charities including a million of his own dollars, he asked trump to show us the money and trump took hum braj. >> i think the political press is among the most dishonest people i've ever met. on behalf of the vets the press should be shamed of themselves. what i don't want is when i

raise millions of dollars have people say, like this sleazy guy over here from abc, he's a sleez in my book. you know the facts and you mow the facts there. >> i'm joined with seth who wrote the piece about what it's like to cover a candidate who hates you a week on the trail with disgusting reporters covering donald trump is the title of the piece. the quick recap here. four months ago he said i raised six million, a million of my own money as well. you wanted to know what happened to all that money. >> that's right. we started asking questions about where -- whether he'd given away the million dollars of his own or whether he'd given away most of the money that people had entrusted to him that people gave him. there was a lot of stone walling and we got an inaccurate account

and finally trump under pressure gave it to a charity he already knew. that is all what happened before we got to this press conference on tuesday. well, i'll tell you a couple of things. one, the charity that he gave the million dollars to, that was his excuse to me, i needed four months to vet them. trump had donated to them in the past and they had given him a leadership award. he knew these people and if he didn't he could have had a chance to ask them at the black tyga la. some of the other money that he gave away on tuesday, one of the groups he gave to has an f rating for its sort of deceptive fund raising practices. if you google this group's name you'd see of the four search results, three of them are placing warning that this might be a problematic charity. >> wow, what's it like to be in

the press pen when he points in your direction and says look at those despicable individuals? >> i didn't enjoy it. you know, if you cover his rallies you so it there for 45 minutes as he tells lie after lie and then at some point he'll point over to the press pen and say look at those lying people, look at those disgusting horrible people and all the supporters will jeer and on occasion flip the bird at the press. it's a winning applause line for him. it's not a thrill for the journalists. >> well, you point out that the journalists who are covering him who are on that trump beat, they've pretty much given up fact checking because what's the point? they've caught him in so many whoppers and yet it doesn't seem to make any kind of an impact? >> i don't think they've given up fact checking. you can look at the work david did and that's still going on, but it's just when he tells the same lie 20 times, after the 12th time it sort of ceases to be news and the reporter struggles to understand how to report that again, you know, for the 15th time. how do you make that still relevant and it doesn't seem to

have any impact on trump himself. >> david, i want you to speak to my father who i know is watching this right now and thinking see, now the media is ganging up on him because they want to protect hillary. now that trump's the nominee, you're all colessing in your effort to take him down. >> well, that's certainly not -- i think it comes from people who don't understand how we actually work. the thing for me is i started checking into these donations. trump had the fund raiser to raise the money on january 28th. i started checking into them a couple of weeks later. i wrote the first story which said that only half of the money had gone out in early march. at that point a lot of other candidates in the race. i was doing that as fast as i could but trump's people made it hard to get the information and i think there were a lot of things written about trump in the past when there were other candidates in the republican race. and the candidates running against him seemed unwilling to use trump's -- the coverage of trump against him because they wanted to appeal to the same

people. the other thing is that we're now outside of a cycle of debates and primary nights which sort of served to break up the news cycles and return attention to things that trump wanted to talk about. we're now in this long stretch where there's not much left to do and trump doesn't have news events to break up the coverage. it's just about what people are finding out about him and asking him. >> seth, final question for you. what concerns you the most about a president trump on the specific issue of media access. >> a lot of is it based on polite norms that we've built up over the decades. i don't think there's a lot to stop president trump from completely ignoring the media. you can imagine him communicating only in tweets. you can imagine him not letting the press riding on air force one. those -- those things are not that hard for me to picture. >> yep, i can see it. thank you both. i appreciate your being here. >> thank you.

>> thank you. you would think that a war with the media would hurt a conditioned date, even donald trump, but not so. a fellow and he earned his phd by studying talk radio. in fact, he quotes wisconsin talk radio star, a leader of the never trump movement admitting as much, quote, we the talk radio hosts bear some responsibility because we beat on the main stream media for so long and now there are no credible sources anymore. bryan is joining me. you wrote that for years talk has bashed journalists as finks and that it's had an impact. how? >> it's had an impact, michael, because for conservatives, they -- they don't view journalists as objective

referees who tell us what the facts are. they view them as democratic cheerleaders who are mas ka raiding as objective journalists and they don't trust anything they say. it doesn't matter what they write about donald trump. it could be about trump university, it could be about what he says about women or minorities, they don't care. as far as they're concerned it's an effort to benefit hillary clinton. >> so david in particular wrote the whole back story of where's the money? are you saying that good quality investigative reporting like that by the post will have no impact on certain among us? >> that's absolutely right. for conservatives they have spent 30 years listening to rush limbaugh and other conservative talk radio hosts saying to them, don't trust the main stream media. the main stream media are a bunch of democratic cheerleaders and they're trying to hurt the guys that you want to win and these people have been yaerniea for someone like donald trump to

take on the main stream media and they don't believe anything they're saying about donald trump and it's almost impossible -- there was one quote in my blog from trump supporter basically saying well, they're saying he's racest and against women but i believe it's all lies. >> i get that he's inoculated himself among conservatives but is there any spillover beyond the conservative community into the main stream part of the electora electorate? >> i don't think so. it seems a lot of other people are bothered by what he's saying, but there are certainly people who can consume conservative media who are not conservatives so they may have more doubts about the main stream media and main stream reporting. >> would you go so far to say that a smackdown -- i've got a tweet. trump's response to the whole issue in the back and forth in terms of the media in terms of how he's handling this.

would you go so far -- amazingly with all the money i have raised for the vets i have got nothing from bad publicity from the dishonest and disgusting media. is he actually benefitting from this back and forth? >> i think absolutely, because remember, michael, one problem he's had as the primary has wound down is consolidating conservativ conservatives. some who say we don't like his position on trade for example or we don't trust that he's one of us, they may look at this and say hey, we finally have the guy who's going to take on the media and call out their dus honesty and call out there left leaning nature and he's going to fight for us and so we'll tolerate all this other stuff that we don't like as much. >> the more he gets vetted the more he benefits at least according to that theory. thank you. i appreciate you being here. >> great being with you, michael. >> what do you think? tweet me your thoughts at

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just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. [ applause ] >> this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes, because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. >> so what will be the impact of this approach? did she get the best of him or only engage him where he thrives? don't forget he took down a whole slew of gop challengers many the primary season, but has hillary finally found the way to take down her challenger. what gives you confidence that this is the right brew? >> well, a couple things. first of all we know that the republicans never really ran a sustained strategic effort against donald trump. they didn't really have a plan to defeat him. and so i think the idea out there that well, gee,

everything's been tried and nothing worked, it's totally wrong. virtually nothing's been tried. this is sort of the beginning of the general election campaign i think. >> we play the sound bites, we don't play the aspects of it but here's what occurs to me. the superpac is sophisticated. a lot of deliberation goes into a case like this. >> well, what i can tell you is what we believe will work and it's three things. first of all, what i think clinton was trying to establish with this speech and the winner of this election is going to be the one who defines the terms. right? he wants to make this a fight about fitness nfor office.

she wants to make that the simple question. the only answer to that who's fit to be president of the united states is going to be hillary. it's not going to be donald trump. i think so -- and that goes to temperament. i think the second issue is his business career as it relates to his claim to be on the side of the little guy and we see that with trump university playing out and there is a treasure trove of information involving his business career establishing that donald trump has only ever been in this for donald trump. he's a total opportune u.s. and i think the third is the republican party has nominated an open bigot. and maybe he was rewarded for some of that with the republican primary electorate but it's not going to play in a broad diverse electorate. >> based on polling and focus groups. right? >> yeah. >> let's take a look at donald trump's response. here's what he had to say after she finished her speech. >> the only reason she's

behaving like this and the only reason she's been dragged so far left, believe me, is she doesn't want to go to jail over the e-mails. okay? believe me. folks, honestly, she's guilty as hell. >> you've seen those negatives. you know what he's referring to in terms of the honesty and trustworthy issues in terms of the polls. can you boost those numbers? can you do better than she's doing right now on the honesty and i should frame it as dishonesty and -- >> can you boost her negatives. >> sure, by the same laws of politics that drive these numbers up they can come back down. she's been vetted for 30 years now. i think the people who have made their mind up that they don't like hillary clinton for whatever reason, their mind is made up. there's not much room for her negative to go up. with him he has had wide media exposure and it's been shallow and we're just starting to get

the donald trump story and we're going to deconstruct the phony story he's telling about himself and tell the american people who he really is. >> i question whether she's the right messenger to play the negativity against him. you said he really wasn't vetted but let me just remind everybody the way marco rubio many the latter stages of his effort took on donald trump. roll that tape. >> the worst spray tan in america. he builds the wall the way he built trump towers he'll be able to use illegal immigrant to do it. >> con artist, make sure his pants weren't wet. >> donald trump likes to sue people, he should sue whoever did that to hi face. >> he did take him on. why do you think it will work for her where it didn't work for rubio? >> well, for one thing, rubio was on to something, but there was nothing sustained behind it. there wasn't a real campaign behind it. he had a couple of days and a couple homes and i do think on the example of trump being a con

man that rubio was hitting the right note but there was no money behind it. there wasn't we're going to run a real campaign against donald trump and the republicans fail to do that. >> i think her biggest problem is that she is a status quo candidate in a climate where people are desire rous of change. take the final word on that. >> i think that is her big challenge but again, if this election is framed in the way we want to frame it as a choice about who is more fit to be president of the united states, and who actually is a genuine hazard and threat to our future, hillary's going to win that hands down. >> thank you for being here. >> still to come, you may remember her as pat from saturday night life, but julia sweeney is one of the prominent atheists convening on the mall this weekend to promote an atheist perspective on politics. >> would you saw you're more like your mother or your father? >> i'm the perfect combination of both. you don't let anything keep you sidelined.

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they're claiming it's the biggest gather of nonreligious people in history. eigh atheistism is on the uprise. yet amazingly not a single current member of congress admits to being an atheist. when barney frank came out at one to bill mahr, it was a bigger secret than being gay or a pot smoker.

>> which pot smoking atheist are you talking about here? >> you are liberated. >> among many speakers at the rally, bill nye the science guy and my next guest who you'll remember from "saturday night live," julia sweeney. julia, thank you for being here. if a quarter of americans are secular, you know there are atheists in the congress . why this remaining taboo? >> i don't know. the culture requires you to show you have to be part average. somehow the congress is way behind the american public. >> or maybe it's because no one has really tested this. maybe no one has stood up and said, look, i'm a person of

moral foundation, i don't derive that moral foundation from any particular book but here i am and i'm putting myself out there. >> i think so, too. i actually think it's going to happen in our lifetime and it's going to happen rapidly. i optimistic about it. >> what is it that you want from the rally? >> i want people who don't identify with any religion, we call ourselves the nones, that's another way to describe it, we're 25% of the public and i think it may be double that if people just admitted to themselves what they really felt. i want our laws of the land and our congress to not be so influenced by the culture of conservative religious thought, which has an outside influence, the conservative religious people in congress and in the laws of the land and i really think it needs to change. and this rally i think can really help bring a focus to the

people who don't identified with a religion and do not believe in god. >> are we more accepting today of gays and lesbians and tra transgenders than we are atheists? >> absolutely, which really shocks me but that seems to be the case. >> finally, i wonder if there's a sem antic issue here. >> i think that's true. there was a word, brights, that didn't seem to work. my parents didn't believe in god but when i said i was an atheist, they were very upset and they wouldn't speak to me. i think it brings up ideas of the cold war and communism.

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