tv Fareed Zakaria GPS CNN June 5, 2016 10:00am-11:01am PDT
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i used to like that song. this is "gps," the "global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we have a great show for you today and here is where we will start. many americans want an alternative to trump and clinton. so is this man the answer? one week ago, gary johnson was named the nominee of the libertarian party. i'll ask him why he's running. we'll stick with the 2016 campaign and talk about clinton versus trump on foreign policy. the former secretary of state laid out her case this week. >> this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear
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codes. >> richard haass and i will analyze. and also billionaires. a new book said studying them could reveal tons about the countries where they live. what do russians tell us about russia and what do saudi princes tell us about the desert kingdom and what does donald trump tell us about america. you'll find out. finally, meet an actual billionaire. airbnb's nathan blecharczyk on the modest beginnings of his new booming business and despite his great wealth, he still rents out a room in his own home. but first here is my take. as the conflict in syria has raged and spilled over the borders, i've been skeptical that there is an american military solution to the complex political and religious problems at the heart of this crisis. i remain skeptical and i'm glad that the obama administration has been reluctant to engage in a large-scale humanitarian
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intervention. but i'm saddened that it has not engaged in large scale humanitarian action. for most of the last 75 years, the united states has been the world's humanitarian leader. it has provided the most foreign aid and re-settled more refugees than any other country. not any more. on refugees, the united states has become an international embarrassment. it has pledged to take in just 10,000 syrians, but last year actually accepted only 2,192 and is struggling to take in more despite the fact that thanks to the distance from the conflict, it could be highly selective. meanwhile, canada, with a population of about a tenth of america, has already re-settled 25,000 syrians. for its part, germany has registered nearly half a million
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applicants for asylum in 2015 alone. according to the new york time. but the world's richest countries are being put to shame by some of the poorest. lebanon now has more than a million registered refugees making up a quarter of the country's population. jordan is not far behind with about 650,000. and turkey houses nearly 3 million. these countries need aid on an entirely different scale than they are receiving right now. in addition, washington has traditionally taken the lead in setting the agenda for humanitarian action. corralling other countries to make donations, accept refugees and provide forces for peace-keeping operations. the administration is now acting on several fronts. but it is still not commensurate with the enormous suffering. syria is a human tragedy of
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epic, historic proportions. what washington can do is to try to respond to the crisis with a set of humanitarian efforts that are equal to the scale of this tragedy. president obama should address the american public and describe the human suffering, remind us of our nation's best traditions and urge that congress support him in providing more aid, receiving more refugees, and leading in greater collaborative efforts internationally. he should appoint george w. bush and bill clinton the country's special ambassadors for humanitarian action on syria. i know, i know, america's mood today is in exactly the opposite direction. donald trump will criticize him, and republicans will raise the spector of terrorism but they are wrong and he should say so. americans have actually always been weary of taking in refugees. large majorities oppose taking in german refugees, that is to say jews in the 1930s and even following world war ii, after we
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had learned about the holocaust. 55% oppose taking in hungarians after the soviet invasion in that country in 1956, and 57% oppose taking in boat people from indo china after the fall of saigon, but america's leaders insisted and all of the groups were accepted, assimilated, and become vital parts of american society. the problem is not one that affects the political right or the obama administration. where is bernie sanders, who is very concerned about americans who can't pay for college, but seems largely indifferent about syrians who can't manage to stay alive. where are the world's rock stars who sang we are the world? ♪
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and staged a live aid concert to fight poverty in africa. millions of syrian men, women and children, innocence are fleeing their homes and living in squalor and losing their lives. where are all of us? for more go to cnn.com/fareed and read my "washington post" column this week. and let's get started. donald trump is the presumptive gop nominee. on tuesday hillary clinton will almost surely become the presumptive democratic nominee. but america has at least one candidate who is an actual official announced nominee of his or her party. last week in orlando, florida, the libertarian party named gary johnson as presidential contender. johnson is a former governor of new mexico. he joins me today from santa fe. thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me on. >> whom are you trying to appeal to?
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you must feel there is an underserved voter in this election with the two choices presented. who is that person you are trying to appeal to? >> well, when 50% of americans now, when they are registering to vote are declaring themselves as independent, i think i'm trying to appeal to the majority of americans who i think are libertarian it is just that they don't know it. and libertarian, with a broad brush stroke, fiscally conservative, socially accepting liberal. >> and when you say that, what is the big break in terms of the orthodoxy of the republican party for you? you are pro-choice. you are pro-gay marriage. you are even in favor of the decriminalization of drugs. >> yes. legalizing marijuana and let's stop with the military interventions that at the end of the day make the world a less safe place. the unintended consequence of these military interventions. >> so i think that is all going to sound like music to the ears
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of many people on the left, who think the republican party is too socially conservative and interventionist. now tell us what your views on economics are because libertarians have traditionally believed in a very, very small state. so-called night watchman state that really takes care of defense, a few other things. where do you stand on that? >> well, the government is too big. it tries to accomplish too much. so at the end of the day, it taxes you and i too much. that is money out of your and my pocket that we could be spending on our own lives enjoying our own freedoms and liberties as we see fit. so with regard to hillary clinton and the democrats, at the end of the day, i think they are going to grow government because government is the solution to everything, which i'm not going to argue it is not. and at the end of the day, it is going to tax more.
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hillary clinton, i also believe, has been the architect of our foreign policy, which in my opinion has made things worse, not better, in the world. so we are not isolationist by any means. let's use diplomacy to the hilt, let's involve congress in declaration of war. let's involve congress in how we move forward with regard to our military, something that they have completely abdicated to the executive and to the military. i believe we have treaties with 69 foreign countries that we are obligated to defend their borders and none of those treaties were negotiated or signed off on by congress. they were executive treaties. >> let me ask you a little bit more about one of the things that you said. you talked about the
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decriminalization of marijuana but in another interview you said the world would be a better place if all drugs were legalized. and i want to understand, you know there is an epidemic of opioid use and heroin is a pretty dangerous drug when used often, even in small quantities. you are saying the that the world would be a better place if everything were legal. >> well, it would be. 90% of the drug problem is prohibition-related, and not use related and that is not to discount the problems with use and abuse. but that should be the focus. so using this epidemic that right now is being -- is being really told to us by the government, it's estimated that 450,000 people die every year from their use of tobacco. it is estimated 100,000 people die every year from alcohol use. it is estimated that 100,000 people die every year from their use of legal prescription drugs. painkillers, antidepressants.
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how many people die every year from cocaine and heroin overdose? well, it's 8,000. it is 8,000 deaths. which is significantly lower. now i'm not advocating the legalization of any drugs outside of marijuana. but i think that the world -- i think that the united states will take a quantum leap when it comes to understanding drugs and drug abuse and i think when we come to that quantum leap, which we are here right now, i think marijuana is going to get legalized, i think we start by decriminalizing the use of other drugs. >> who do you think, governor you are further away from idealogically, hillary clinton or donald trump? >> you know, i think it is about a 50-50. and i would like to say, there are good things on both sides, but when it comes to hillary, i think at the end of the day, she is going to grow government. i think that taxes are going to go up.
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i think miliarially things aren't going to change at all in the world. when it comes to donald trump, deporting 11 million illegal immigrants, that is really wrong-headed, building a fence across the border, his declaration that mexicans are murderers and rapists, when they are law-abiding citizens, more law-abiding than u.s. citizens. they are not taking jobs that u.s. citizens want. when he says he is going to kill the families of muslim terrorists, when he said he's going to bring back waterboarding or worse and said he is for free market but in the next sentence says he will force apple to make the iphones and the ipads in the united states, when when he says he's going to apply a 35% tariff on imported goods, who is going to pay for that? well, on and on and on. >> it sounds to me like you have more problems with trump. >> well, broad-based, i can point to specifics when it comes to trump. hillary, i could probably point at all of those same specifics. bill clinton was in new mexico
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here campaigning for hillary and he was talking about free electricity for those on the reservation. well, free -- who pays for free? nothing is free. and that seems to be the democrat mantra forever, is get it for free. and we'll give it to you for free. well, there are those of us that at the end of the day have to pay for that. >> governor, pleasure to have you on. thanks for joining us. >> fareed, wonderful to be on with you. hope we can do this again. thanks. next on "gps," we will talk more about those other presidential candidates and their foreign policy ideas. what would donald trump do as commander-in-chief? well, on thursday hillary clinton told us in a scathing attack on her presumptive opponent. i'll ask richard haas what he thought of it when we come back. text mom.
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donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. they are not even really ideas. just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies. >> that was hillary clinton talking about donald trump on thursday. and it got harsher and more direct, even more personal in its attacks. the speech was bold. but will it work? well, i've asked richard haass, the president on the council on foreign relations who worked
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with three republican presidents to join me. thanks for coming. >> thanks for having me. >> so what was your reaction to hillary clinton's speech. >> more of a political speech than a foreign policy speech she didn't defend her record, she didn't lay out a vision, but she raised some serious questions about donald trump, about his temperament and his knowledge and his positions on various issues so i thought in terms of the campaign, it was probably her best moment to date. >> so in a sense, she made it a referendum on trump rather than on her. that seems a pretty smart strategy. >> absolutely. and in a funny sort of way, each candidate will have the same strategy. so she will make the campaign a referendum on trump and his temperament, again, on his competence and knowledge and he is going to make it on her character and her past performance. so we are likely to have each candidate raising fundamental questions about the other. >> what i thought was so effective about it was she went after the sort of central narrative of donald trump which is america is in decline and she punctured it but in doing so she
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appropriates for herself american patriotism. she comes across as the person who believes in america, thinks it is exceptional, thinks it is big-hearted and he comes across as the guy who doubts it, is pessimistic about america. it is sort of a role reversal. >> you have a democrat to the right of the republican. you have a democrat who sounds more like ronald reagan than the republican. she has put herself in some ways firmly in the foreign policy mainstream. and is essentially argued that the united states has prospered in the world strategically and economically for generations now. the world is not -- it is a dangerous place. but it is not an anti-american, unfriendly place unbalanced in terms of our interest. donald trump is arguing a much more negative view of the world, that is a place where americans get ripped off and we lose. which is an odd argument to make in part because we did win the cold war, all things being equal we are the most powerful country
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in the world and we have pros period in every sense of the word now for decades. >> and you read donald trump's speech as well. you will also spent time with him. what are his foreign policy ideas? >> as best i can tell, it is a very transactional approach. rather than think about relationships, you think about transactions. with allies or adversaries. it is a minimalist view of the world. isolation is freighted so let's use the word minimalist. concerned about interventions that have cost more than they benefit the united states. suspicious of the world. whether it is free trade or anything else. essentially when the united states interacts with the world, we end up losing, economically losing, losing in terms of human resources and in terms of influence so he wants to have a narrower and more transactional approach with the world and in some ways an economic nationalist, outside of the traditional bipartisan mainstream. >> all right. i asked you this the last time you were on. i have to ask it again. you've spent time with trump, he has named to this point only two people, senator sessions and you as the people he admires on
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foreign policy. anything you've heard since -- that make you feel you could -- you could support him or you could endorse him or work for him. >> i think i've also spent time with hillary clinton and i gave you the same answer. before you could work for my president, there would have to be a serious alignment in the foreign policy views. you wouldn't have to agree on every issue but you would have to agree on the big issues and also need to agree on the conception of the job but i would say from what i've heard there is still some fundamental differences between mr. trump's view of the world and america's role of the world and my own. i'm declared. i've written a number of books and i'm out there and worked for three republican presidents and one democratic president and i have a record and that speaks for itself. what he has done it speaks for itself and there is a gap between the two. >> and i think it is fair to say you are closer, having read most of your work, your views are closer to hillary clinton as he stated and practiced them as secretary of state.
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>> i am a believer in free trade i am a believer in american alliances and i am a believer in american leadership and working with others an working with international institutions and again, when i look at the course of history, i believe this country has more often than not benefited from interventions in the world, the interaction with the world. and when we've made mistakes they have been self-inflicted, vietnam and the iraq war, this wasn't the world doing it to us, as you know, this was us doing it to ourselves. but when we've been wide or avoided trying to transform the world or to avoid it, when we found the middle course, that is the sweet spot and we have a lot to show for that. >> do you think that -- that trump's views are likely to evolve, that he, you know, listens to people? where do you see this going? >> that is the 64 -- or the thousand dollar question if inflation has taken hold, we haven't seen signs of it much yet. whether in the political action or the foreign policy. one word -- i hope so, if he were to be elected, because again, the stakes would be enormous and the in box that will greet whoever is elected,
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the 45th president will be as daunting and demanding as it has ever been. you will inherit anarchy in the middle east and geopolitics in europe, uncertain asia, all sorts of gaps between global challenges and dploebl global arrangements and so you want the next president to pursue a smart and steady course. so i would hope that mr. trump, if he were to be elected, would surround himself with thoughtful people and yes, i would hope he would pursue a foreign policy more within the 30 or 40 yard lines rather than one more toward the end zones. >> richard haass, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. next on "gps," the u.s. and ussr had the space race and now india and china seem to be locked in a heated race of a very different kind. a race to see who could build the most toilets. why in the world? we'll explain when we come back. we asked a group of young people when they thought they should start saving for retirement. then we asked some older people when they actually did start saving.
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man, one giant leap for mankind. >> two of the world's largest economies are engaged in, well, a toilet race. what in the world? that's right, the world's two most populous countries are vying to modernize and they are both making parties a national priority. india's prime ministers and jing pin have ushered in an era of improved public health and at the heart of it is more toilets. we take it for granted but 2.5 billion people around the world still do not have access to adequate sanitation. according to the u.n. that is almost four out of every ten people on earth. and the populations of india and china are the worst off. over 770 million indians don't have access to a toilet at home. neither do 329 million chinese, according to water aid.
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what does that mean? well, if you have visited either country, especially india, you would have seen or smelled it. indeed, more indians have cell phones than toilets, according to the census. so prime minister modi has coined the superb mantra, toilets before temps. you see, many indians are happy to build temples less eager to spend money on plumbing. modi has offered financial incentives to build toilets in every home and and he has pledged to end open air defecation in india by 2019. but modi's plan has fallen well short of the targets. government data shows that as of march, india has fallen 47% short of its construction target for household louves. china is also undergoing a so-called toilet revolution. china's central government has earmarked money for toilets in
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an effort to meet u.n. targets and among other reasons to boost tourism. you see western tourists don't look kindly on traditional chinese facilities. as in so many areas, china is beating india hands-down. the financial times reports that the revolution is well underway and government agencies say that china will meet the u.n. targets. there is even a trump toilet in china which the manufacturer claims was not inspired by the presidential candidate. make pooping great again, foreign policy declared. party humor aside, the economic benefits are very clear. the world bank estimates that in 2006, inadequate sanitation cost india what amounts to 6.4% of its gdp, globally the u.n. estimates that lack of proper sanitation and water cost developing countries about $260 billion each year. more importantly, there is the loss of human capital.
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a child dies because of poor sanitation every 20 seconds. according to the u.n. investments in sanitation don't just reduce costs, they also yield economic benefits. the u.n. calculated the saving in time and health care bills an enhanced productivity and found every one dollar spent on sanitation produces a whopping return of $9. so we should all hope that china and india can keep up the competition. one in which both will eventually be winners. next on "gps," what do mark zuckerberg and carlos slim and donald trump and ab annie have in common? they are all billionaires and in a moment you'll hear how counting the nation's billionaires could tell you if a country is at risk. is the united states? the answer when we return. you both have a
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mexico's carlos slim. michael bloomberg, the walmart heirs and how can we forget donald trump, all billionaires and all people we hear about all of the time, especially the last guy. but despite what we hear, we don't understand they could tell us a lot about the strength of an economy. ruchir sharma looks at them and uses them as a prism through which to see the world. it is one of the many fascinating insights in his superb new book "the rise and fall of nations." he is here to tell us his secrets. so the first thing you point out is are billionaires are rising worldwide big time. you have a chart that shows this and you look at 2009, the beginning of the greatest recession in the world since the great depression and you have an 80% rise in billionaires. is this all over the world? >> yeah. >> equally distributed? in the sense it is the rich countries and russia and china and india.
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>> that is true. but i think that the study -- the disturbing part about the chart is that the united states has seen one of the biggest increases in billionaire wealth over -- since 2009. and one of the reasons for that, i think, is the fact that we've had such easy money policies in the u.s. so if you give people -- rich people free money, they know how to make more of it. and that is really what is double charged this billionaire list since 2009. >> so if you look at the u.s. and you have a chart on that, too, what you see is this very impressive rise. and it has happened in all industries, it is basically because billionaires have capital and stock market has gone up, real estate has gone up. that is the story behind this? >> yeah. because with the issue of 2009, this is the weakest economic recovery in history. and yet the stock market gains have been among the strongest in history and that has lifted the wealth of rich people because it is the rich who own stocks in a
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disproportionate manner. >> right. so now we come to the heart of what you look at, which is what can the billionaires tell us about the overall economies health and strength and you have this chart that shows billionaire's wealth as a share of gdp. so you take it a look at it and the blue is the average. and here you see something interesting. which is the u.s. -- the major countries, which i should be clear it is not every country, but the major countries we've looked at is very high. but so is russia, so is india. what -- how do you make sense of this chart? >> i think that as far as the u.s. is concerned, it used to be in line with the global average of 10% for a long period of time. but in the last few years, this exploded and has gone to about 15%. so i think this is -- this is a bit of a concern that in the u.s., you are seeing this big explosion take place. i think wealth creation is
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critical for any country. that is at the heart of any capitalist society. but the problem is when you get far too many billionaires it sort of starts to lead to a backlash amongst too much wealth being created among a few people and that is what you are seeing here in the political conversation in this campaign. >> and so on this, the united states example, it clearly flashes red but if you look at the next vector you find this is quite positive for the united states. which is what? which is the real mood against wealth in a country is negative, when the wealth is being created and corruption prone industries. the leading example again is russia. and here to russia and mexico, they top the list. this is where the united states ranks pretty well, which is the bulk of billionaires in this country come in industry such as technology and other industries such as pharmaceuticals and when you have wealth in those industries, people sort of respect those billionaires. but in countries like russia, mexico, it would be impossible
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for a billionaire in those countries to run for office in those countries, because they have such hostility toward the rich out there. >> because it is all seen as gotten through government permissions and grants and special ties. >> yeah. so i think that is the really big difference and something which is much positive as far as the united states is concerned. >> but there is one other final chart that we have which is the share of billionaires wealth in inheritance and this is on the list. and there the u.s. is average. i wouldn't be surprised if that has risen a bit over the last 10 or 15 years because there is this feeling that great wealth is now being able to be passed down in a way that it isn't. do you find something interesting here that you notice about the health of an economy? >> no, but even on this vector, i don't think the united states is doing that badly because the averages are slightly depressed because of countries like russia and china and there is no wealth because they were communist
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countries where the wealth is much more recent but the real problems are in other countries like take what is happening in asia or the case of of india, where like more than half of the billionaires there have really inherited their wealth in some ways. they have made something out of it but they have inherited the wealth. but the good news is on two of the three vectors, the u.s. ranks fairly okay. so i think inequality is still not such a big issue where it begins to completely dominate the political landscape and also explains why you have someone like trump who is able to run in this country, despite the fact that he's a billionaire. and in most of those countries, there is no chance that a billionaire will ever be able to run for office because he or she would be much busy hiding behind closed doors and in hotel lobbies and they walk around in a very sort of discrete manner. this is very different in the united states. >> so what i love is there are 450-page serious book about future of -- present and future
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of economics, all roads still lead to donald trump. ruchir sharma, thank you very much. up next, i'll talk to an actual billionaire from a noncorruption prone industry, one of the founders of airbnb, the site that has drastically altered the way people travel today and one that wants to disrupt that industry even more. poor mouth breather.
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welcome to the original air bnb. this is a re-creation of the apartment which the three founders of air bnb lived in and led to the company that now has around 2 million rooms for rent in 34,000 cities around the world. the "wall street journal" has reported that the company is valued at $24 billion. which makes each of the three
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founders a multi-billionaire. one of them, nathan blecharczyk, now joins me. he is the company's chief technology officer. nate, pleasure to have you on. >> thanks so much for coming by. >> so this is pretty much the apartment that the three of you were in and then you left, right? >> right. well we were all roommates before we started this company. and then suddenly the rent on our apartment was raised 25%. and i said that is too expensive. i'm out of here. and the two other guys wanted to stay but they had just quit their jobs to become entrepreneurs, also known as unemployed and so they got the idea to rent out the bedroom to designers coming into town for a conference but the hotel was sold out so they rented out this room. the room had no bed so joe set up an air bed and so airbnb is short for air bed and breakfast and they hosted three designers and made a thousand dollars and went to the conference together and hung out and showed them around town. they got a really local experience. and based on that win-win, the three of us got together and started to -- started this company. that was eight years ago. >> now what is striking about it, it is a collaboration
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between the arts and the computer science. you are the techie, the computer science major in college but they are artists or designers. >> and i think that is responsible for a lot of our success. because what we're doing requires so much trust. and so designing the whole experiment -- experience was incredibly important, i think, for establishing that trust. but of course. it took technology to scale it. >> but trust is at the heart of it. how do you -- i think everybody, when they hear about air bnb, thinks, wait a minute, on both sides of the transaction, would i just walk into some stranger's house and what do i -- what if they are weird and the person renting worries about the fact that the person coming in might be weird? how do you get over that. >> so the core of it is how we handle payments, reputation and user profiles. so for payments, as a guest when you see something you like, you pay airbnb.
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that way, if you need to cancel, you call us, 24/7. the host knows in order to get paid, he has to deliver on what was promised. when the transaction's over, the guest reviews the host, the host reviews the guest. both parties start to assuccumue a reputation. some have dozens, even hundreds of reviews. so you can get a whole 360 view of what is this property. the guests are accumulating reputations. as an owner, nobody stays in your home without you saying yes or no. you see everything about the guest. where they went to school, where do they work, their past reviews. >> is it true you actually rent out a room in your house in san francisco? >> yeah, i have a guest there right now. >> you know this is not just a pr gimmick, you're actually renting it many nights a month?
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>> most nights a year, i have someone in my home. >> you don't think it's intrusive? >> this is what our company's built on, so if it doesn't work for me, how's it going to work for other people? >> the other thing, the two founders went to rhode island school of design. you went to harvard. san francisco ended up being the magnet. why? >> for me personally, i was working after college on the east coast as a software engineer. i just wasn't being challenged. i wasn't learning. i was reading about this place out here, silicon valley, and really inspired by the stories. i came out here to join a start-up. this is the start-up mecca. that's because it's been 50, 60 years of history. of an ecosystem building up. venture capital, all the resources you need, mentors. >> do you think airbnb has a new set of challenges it has to deal with now because there are people beginning to say wait,
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why don't you have to pay the same kind of hotel occupancy taxes hotels have to pay? if hotel rooms have to be built to codes, handicap access, why do airbnb rooms don't have to? >> i say this is a new business model. it's never been contemplated before. so these are all things we're going to have to think through together. now that we're at scale, of course they're attracting a lot of attention. i think it's a really great thing. it's not something to be avoided. i think there are innovative solutions to each of those questions. so most of the existing policies that exist were developed 30, 50 years ago. so all we've been saying is there should be new policies for the 21st century. let's create those together. we've come up with really great solutions. new policies have been passed that are very favorable to home sharing for specific issues like taxes. we've actually created
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technology where we can partner with cities and collect the taxes on behalf of the city so they don't have to go through the effort of collecting from all the individuals which for them is prohibitive. >> nate, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you. >> next on "gps, knot nostalgia. welcome to the very first edition of global public square. a look back at the birth of the global public square when we come back. obviously, ohhh...e insurance but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands. came out today thousands of people to run the race for retirement. so we asked them...
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amidst all of the invective against donald trump abroad, this week he received an endorsement, calling him wise and far-sighted. it brings me to my question of the week. in what newspaper were those words of praise published this week? russia's "provda," israel hayom, or china people daily or north korea dprk today. stay tuned and we'll tell you the answer. this week's book of the week is ruchir sharma's "the rise and fall of nations." filled with amazing data as you saw earlier in the show, fascinating insights and
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revealing anecdotes, the best guide to the economy today. whether you are an observer or an investor, you cannot afford to ignore it. the correct answer to the gps challenge question is d, north korea state-run "dprk today" published an editorial calling the donald wise and a far-sighted candidate. one can understand why. trump said he would initiate talks with north korea's leader kim jong-un and that he might withdraw american forces from south korea. you might call it a first look as it is a look at the first ever "gps." on wednesday we marked the show's eighth anniversary. much has changed, though, i, of course, have not changed a bit. in the first half, former british prime minister tony blair joined me and we talked about the unstoppable path the world was headed down. >> globalization, which is the force changing the world today at a rapid and extraordinary rate, pushes people together. that is what it does. the boundaries are coming down
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and the world is becoming smaller. all of those cliches, because they are true and that is what is happening. >> and despite the noisy rhetoric, some of that is still happening. i began that show in 2008 by offering my take on the world, although we didn't officially call it that. >> i know that right now to a lot of people the world looks like a grim place. almost every day you are bombarded with frightening headlines, stories of out of control governments and terrorists who want to kill you. but beyond those headlines, the picture is actually much brighter. economic growth and technology are raising people out of disease and poverty every day. on this program, we'll try to understand the new forces shaping our world, both the good and the bad. and i'll talk to some of the world's great thinkers and doers. >> so how did we do? do you feel better about the state of the world? do you think we've done a good job in tweet us and let us know, #fz gps. it has been an eventful eight
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years. i've loved sharing my interests, passions and questions and ideas with you. thanks so much for spending the time with me. i'll see you right here next week. and for many, many more weeks, as long as you keep tuning in. hello, everyone, thank you so much for joining me. welcome to "newsroom." heading into the final primaries and caucuses this week. right now, it would seem that donald trump's biggest wounds may be self-inflicted. this morning, a prominent republican is calling trump's latest claim about the so-called mexican judge one of his worst mistakes. former house speaker gingrich is criticizing trump's refusal to back down from trump's claims that the judge, who is presiding over the trump university fraud case, is biased against him because, quote, he's a mexican. to be clear, the judge is
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