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welcome back for another live hour of "ac360" from orlando.
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dozens are killed and injured from a gunman opened fire. we'll also remember the names and faces of all 49 people whose lives were taken that night. we think it's so important for you to see their faces, to learn their names and remember so they are not another gotten. we will not mention the shooter's name or show his picture but we want to get you up to date for the latest on the shooter. what are investigators saying, particularly about the shooter's wife? >> reporter: she is now the focus of an active investigation. the question being what did she know before these attacks? did she have warning, particularly about targets? she told investigators she knew he was thinking about some kind of jihadist attack and tried to stop him but didn't know where and investigators are looking at whether she knew enough that she
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should have come forward to keep this from going. >> they haven't made the determination about whether or not she knew specific targets? >> reporter: they do not. but they do know she went to potential tarets wigets with hi. >> she went to pulse. >> she went to pulse and she went to disney. the question is did she know if he was scouting out that target. >> and they found his phone. >> they did, phone in the club, dell computer and other digital images as well. they found he downloaded and watched jihadist videos, and beheading videos, and videos of the american cleric killed in the u.s. drone strike, this classic path of being radicalized online.
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the key about the phone, it was covered in blood and considered a biohazard. >> do they know if they'll be able to get that information? >> that we don't know. it was a samsung phone and apple phones are harder to crack. >> we know there were 911 calls. i talked to a witness who was outside about an hour before the shooting began, saw him outside the club with the phone in his hand. it's very possible if there was somebody else involved -- are investigators still looking at that as a possibility? >> absolutely. they have not closed out any of these paths. the wife we know is a target of investigation, but we know they're continuing to look at others to see if they had any sort of support network for him. that's a standard thing they do. they did it after paris and after belgium. to our knowledge they haven't discovered an accomplice in that category. to be clear about the wife, they don't believe she's an
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accomplice as they say. the question is was it a sin of omission. did she know something and not report it. >> jim sciutto, thank you. in the middle of the chaos, there were stories of people helping others. one of them was jeanette mccoy. she was at the club with friends. she tied her shirt around one of her friend's leg to try to stop the bleeding after he was shot. another friend shot was named angel. jeanette wrote on facebook that she's only alive because as they were trying to escape, her friend angel was behind her. >> the last girl i was talking to, out of nowhere we just hear a big shotgun. we stop what we're doing and then it just keeps going. that happened and we just grabbed each other, we started running. and, unfortunately, i was shot about three times in my leg. so i had fallen down.
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i tried to get back up but everyone started running everywhere. i got trampled over and i shattered and broke my bones on my left leg. >> joining me now are survivors jeanette mccoy and evans carnoy. when did you realize something was happening at the club? >> right after i turned from angel. i was facing where the bartender was and the shots were automatic. it was just the sound of it, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, back to back. and i turned to my side and there's a young female next to me and she gets shot -- >> you saw that? >> yes. so automatically i'm ducking and trying to turn and then angel pushes me because right there there's nothing but chaos and at that time it's just i'm feeling
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so many bullets just flying by so fast, there's glass everywhere and i start turning to my right and start heading towards the patio because i know there's the outside is that way and i just needed to go outside and we fall to the ground and as i'm trying to get up, the sound of bullets passing me, i was bracing to pretty much get hit. i just told myself if i get hit, i just want to be able to run. and i was hoping to get hit in an area that i was going to be okay. and i finally run out, i lose evans, i lose everybody, my brother, my friend jillian and i'm out, i finally make it out and i run all the way across and i go to the front part of the entrance because i was infuriated with all the shots and the cops just weren't going in and i was screaming at the cops -- i was telling them, i had video and i was cursing for them to enter the building. i didn't feel it was necessary for somebody to have that many
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shots. i already felt by then there was already a hundred rounds already shot. >> evans, were you inside when you got separated? >> yes, i was leaning against the ball by the bar area where her friend juan was actually working. i just happened to lean against the wall and i was watching them have a good time, sidelining as you'd say. when i shots went off, i knew automatically what it was. i just about faced and there ended up being a room behind me, a storage room by the bar. i bust through there and four or five people bust in behind me. i put my body against the door because i was worried that the shooter might come in the room. that's when i kind of cracked the door and peeked out and i saw him shooting. >> you actually saw him shooting? >> yeah. i mean, not hitting people but i saw him shooting. >> i've heard him described as calm. how did he seem to you?
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>> it was normal. he was literally just standing there and letting it go. from the barrel, i could see the fire, the spark, whatever you say. and that's when i closed the door and i said my god, my god and they could notice the fear. and that's when we noticed the ladder and we climbed the ladder and that's how we got out of there. >> what do you want people to think about? there's so much focus on who did this instead of who lost their lives. >> you know, there's so many mixed emotions from anger to sorrow. to me it was the people in there bleeding to death. the question of why, why am i here and why they're not. >> you think about that a lot
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still? >> it plays in my head every day. >> you took off your shirt to make a tourniquet to save others? >> yeah. once i realized i didn't have any gunshot wounds, i automatically -- it was human nature to just go and help. i actually found juan, the bartender that i was in front of, and he was shot in his right quad. somebody must have wrapped something but he was still bleeding and i automatically just took my shirt off and wrapped -- >> we see new the video with juan. >> yeah, that's me. i started to help other individuals. there was a young lady shot in her arm and was going into shock and i was speaking to her in a calm voice and told her she was going to be okay and we started to put pressure on her arm. i told her to relax and she was going to be okay. they didn't hit any major arteries. i didn't get home until 6:00 in the morning because i had to make sure that i was there for my people, for our community and
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it was already hurtful that i knew that my people were in there already suffering. >> this has brought people together in an extraordinary way, the outpouring last night here, there was a vigil in new york. i feel like it's sort of an extraordinary time here in the midst of this horror and tragedy of people that come together. >> and it's people of all. i bring my straight friend to the club with me. i said i just want to smile and have a good time and just be among my latin people. >> it's important to point out not everybody that goes to a gay club is gay. >> exactly. i brought my straight brother. it was just a time for us to have a good time. that's what we go to pulse for. you doesn't see that in the gay scene, some type of shoot-out. you don't see that. it's not common. >> and in gay bars, there's very few fights. in other bars you'll see fights
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with alcohol involved. for so many gay people and their friends, it's a safe space. they can express emotion and affection in a way they can't on the street normally. >> we're human. we can represent our gay flag but we all bleed the same and we're all human. there was a bunch of humans in there. my thing is how long are we going to come together as a community? it shouldn't take tragic events like this for us to come together. that's the disappointing part. how can we come together as a community, as a town, as a country, as a nation, what is it we're going to be pro active about in that area? >> thank you so much. i'm so sorry for yours loss. thank you very much. we're going to have a lot more ahead over this next hour. coming up, another story of survival. a young, her name is patience, she wrote an incredible poem
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about surviving when others did not. and we remember amanda, a nursing student. the moment gunfire rang out, she and her friend didn't make it out that night. her brother shares his memories ahead. the other guys can't say that! we got you covered. 80% of recurrent ischemic, strokes could be prevented. and i'm doing all i can to help prevent another one. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. been trying to prepare for this day... and i'm still not ready. the reason i'm telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that... you'll never be ready for. your little girl getting married being one of them.
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one is a 20-year-old woman named patience carter. she was in florida on vacation, her first time here. she wrote an incredibly moving poem about the shooting and how she feels about surviving when so many others didn't. she read her poem from the hospital today. we think it's important today. >> the guilt of feeling grateful to be alive is heavy. wanting to smile about surviving but not sure if the people around you are ready. as the world mourns the victims killed and viciously slain, i feel guilty about screaming about my legs in pain because i could feel nothing. like the other 49 who weren't so lucky to feel this pain of mine. i never thought in a million years that this could happen. i never thought in a million years that my eyes could witness something so tragic. looking at the souls leaving the bodies of individuals, looking at the killer's machine gun
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throughout my right peripheral, looking at the blood and debris covered on everyone's faces, looking at the gunman's feet under the stall as he paces the guilt of feeling lucky to be alive is heavy. it's like the weight of the ocean's walls crushing uncontrolled by levees. it's like being drug through the grass with a shattered leg and thrown on the bag of a chevy. it's like being rushed to the hospital and told you're going to make it when you laid beside individuals whose lives were brutally taken. the guilt of being alive is heavy. >> the guilt of feeling lucky to be alive is heavy. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now.
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it's remarkable to realize just sort of how many people are working on people like patience and on other survivors. i mean, it takes so many people, there's so many multiple wounds at times. >> from the moments they literally entered the hospital, there's been all sorts of nurses and therapists. the psychological impact, what you're hearing is survivor's guilt combined with post traumatic stress. this can be individualized. it could be very powerful and surprising to the person who experiences it. they don't quite now how to describe it at first. even people outside of the club, people who just live in this community can also have a competitive survivor's guilt. they lived when others did not, typically in situations where people are targeted, for example, something like this versus a natural disaster, survivor's guilt is going to be more common. >> it's interesting.
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you and i have been in a lot of places where a lot of terrible things have happened. i often get a lot of questions from friends but also tweets say how can people in their moment of grief appear so calm, how can patients have the strength to read that out at a press conference. how can a mother who just lost her son smile while she's talking about her son? i mean, we all react to grief differently. there are a lot of people who are a lot more composed than i'm able to be. >> yeah, i don't think i could do it, when i see some of these parents talking about their children. i think part of it is a sense of empowerment. you feel so -- you've lost all control. >> and they want people to know about their loved ones. when somebody dies violently, you don't want to just remember how their life ended, you want them to know how they lived their life. >> and with survivor's guilt, part of it is also honoring the people who died. you have such self-preservation
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when you're being targeted like this, you want to save your own life but then you start to think about it, reflect, could i have done more to save other people's lives as well? doctors and nurses, they've been describing how they behaved when the patients came in. one of the doctors spoke quite a lot about this. take a listen. >> our first patient was relatively stable, awake and talking to us, and we thought maybe they're all going to be like this and that would be great. and then we quickly got two or three more that were very critical in nature. we quickly got about five patients and that was a lot for us and we thought maybe that was going to be it and then they started lining up in the hallway. they weren't being brought in by ambulances. there was no paramedics coming in and giving us report and dropping them off. they were being dropped off in truckloads and in ambulance loads where our amazing nurses and techs were putting them on stretchers and rolling them in
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to us and telling us that another patient's here, another patient's here, another patient's here. and quickly our trauma bay came quickly to capacity and we had to move people out. >> you know, beside the words that she's saying, you can hear a little bit of that cathartic nature as well getting some of this out here. anderson, they were bringing patients in in pickup trucks. you can typically get advance notice -- >> so can you triage. >> triage and so cuff get an --n get an idea of what the injuries are. we saw this during wartime. it's a lot of how they get through this psychologically. >> for many of these doctors, they've obviously -- unless they had military training, they've probably never seen anything like this at this level.
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>> and the number of wounds, the multiple gunshot wounds. the bullets, the way they behave when they get in the body, they tumble and all of a sudden, the patient may look okay, blood pressure is okay and five minutes later they're completely unstable. so it's a lot of monitoring, a lot of diligence they have to spend. >> i appreciate you've had such great access. thank you for sharing it with us. >> amanda posted a snapchat video right when the gunfire started. it's the last images her family has of her. they also learned about her brave actions before she died when we continue from orlando. wanna drink more water?
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well, as you probably know as you've been watching us the last few days, we're trying to bring you as many of the stories of victims and survivors as possible. we have an exclusive with a fire lieutenant who was on duty when it happened. he spoke to brooke baldwin. >> what people may not realize
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is there fire station is 300 feet from the night club. when the call came out, multiple, multiple wounded, they had no idea it would be as many as it was. this fire station 5 became this makeshift triage. so suddenly this lieutenant, davis odell, starts explaining to me that people started running, they heard the shots from within the fire house, they're running every which way, including trying to find safety behind this brick wall at the fire station. he described to me, you know, it was obviously a bloody, gruesome scene and described the first person that came toward them, shot twice in the stomach. >> there was groups of people in front of the fire station hiding behind the wall over there, crying and screaming. as soon as we put the bay door up, we had our first person shot through and through. >> reporter: what was that person saying? >> he wasn't saying anything.
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he was shot twice through the abdomen. through and through. so what happened when the bay door went up, we immediately helped and carried him in there and laid him down on the bay floor right next to engine and the medics went to work on him and immediately began to stabilize and triage him and we had another victim come in with a shot through the wrist, another shot through the leg. the walking wounded, we can bandage those up and stabilize them rather easily, but the man who was shot through the abdomen twice was a priority. so he was really patient number one for the orlando fire department's response. >> reporter: did he make it? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. i don't know who he was. i don't know other than the fact that when we got a rescue down here to transport him, we loaded him into the back and it was a hot scene and off he went to the hospital. >> just imagine the fog of it
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all. roughly 25 people they treated, whether it was at the fire station or across the street from pulse nightclub is a bagel shot. that quickly became another triage situation. keep in mind, this lieutenant has been a firefighter for 35 years. never would you train for a scene like this. he told me about the text he sent to his wife, he has children, he's a dad. and working in the wee hours of the morning, he texted "don't let the kid turn on the tv." i said what is the one thing when you close your eyes at night that you think of? and he said, the courage, the heroism. >> brooke, thank you for doing that. >> and text messages, phone calls to loved ones and on video. this is snapchat.
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snapchat video, she was at pulse with friends. they look like they're having fun and then gunshots you hear ring out. she looks confused and the video end. amanda didn't make it out alive, a nursing student who tried to help others even in the final moments of her life. gary tuchman talked to her brother today. >> brian was the first of three children. he lost his younger brother nelson to cancer years ago. his younger sister, amanda, went to the pulse nightclub on saturday night. >> if there's one person on earth that i thought could take a couple shots and survive just to spite the shooter, it was amanda. >> reporter: but amanda was killed. >> a parent should never have to bury one child, not two.
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it's unfathomable she should have to go through this again. she's the sweetest person ever. >> reporter: they got a call that amanda had gone to the pulse and feared the worst when they got no answer. they saw the snapchat videos from the club showing people dancing and having fun. but there was one last video in which the first gunshots are heard. amanda with a confused and concerned look on her face, and those are the laimast images of amanda's life they'll ever see. >> so when you saw this snapcat video of your sister, tell me how it made you feel. >> i mean, fear for my sister. you feel a sense of helplessness. you want to jump in the television and be with her but you can't. >> mercedes flores, her best
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friend, was also killed. amanda tried to save mercedes' life. brian and his parents were told that by another friend, a woman who survived the attack. >> the shooting started, she grabbed amanda's hand, they bolted towards the door, amanda turned around and said mercedes was missing so she was going to go back and get mercedes and they said okay and they split up and that was the last they saw her. >> she did something so brave that she went to look for her friend instead of leaving. i'm wondering if that gives you comfort right now. >> it does. i mean, that's what anyone in our family would have done. that's how we are. that's how my parents raised us. if i was there with my best friend, i'd like to think i'd do the same thing and i would. and i'm glad that my sister did. >> it's amanda alvear.
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i can't imagine how the parents are coping. >> reporter: they're such a nice family. i talked to the father for a little while. he wasn't ready to go on camera yet. he said it's an absolute nightmare he's going through this with a second child. brian wanted to go on camera and wanted to be strong for his sister and talk about how wonderful she was. brian happens to work at a dance club and he's a k.j. do you know what a k.j. is? >> no. we're old. >> it's a karaoke deejay. financially it's so difficult. the family set up a go fund me page and so far a lot of very generous people have sent them some money but it's a very difficult situation. >> it's on the screen right there. >> we have it on the screen right there. >> up next, donald trump facing a lot of criticism from hillary clinton and from president obama over his response to the orlando
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the mass shooting here in orlando is making an impact on the campaign trailer. donald trump continuing to call for a ban on muslims entering the u.s. today president obama fired back at donald trump. here's what he said. >> we're starting to see where this kind of rhetoric and loose talk and sloppiness about who exactly we're fighting, where this can lead us. we now have proposals from the presumptive republican nominee for president of the united states to bar all muslims from emigrating to america. we hear language that singles out immigrants and suggests entire religious communities are complicit in violence. where does this stop?
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the orlando killer, one of the san bernardino killers, the fort hood killer, they were all u.s. citizens. are we going to start treating all muslim americans differently? are we going to start subjecting them to special surveillance? are we going to start discriminating against them because of their faith? >> well, mr. trump held a rally in north carolina in the last hour, did not hold back again. sarah marie is there, joins us now. so has trump responded to president obama's comments today? >> reporter: anderson, trump came out tonight ready to hit back. he suggested that president obama's anger was misdirected, saying he felt obama should have been angrier at the shooter of the orlando massacre rather than
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focusing his anger at donald trump. >> and i watched president obama today, and he was more angry at me than he was at the shooter. and many people said that. one of the folks on television said, boy, has trump gotten under his skin, but he was more angry -- and a lot of people have said this -- the level of anger, that's the kind of anger he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldn't be here. >> reporter: now, anderson, this sort of follows in the same vein of what we've been hearing from donald trump earlier this week, him suggesting that maybe president obama even sympathized with muslim extremists, holding out these possible vague notions and declining to clarify what he meant. he seems to be following in those same steps tonight,
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anderson. >> and hillary clinton spoke out against donald trump tonight? >> reporter: that's right. it was kind of a united effort. we saw the sharpest rebuke yet by hillary clinton against a donald trump presidency, her essentially laying out the case she believes he is unfit for the white house and she took an opportunity to take a jab on his history on tv saying the presidency is a much more real thing. >> it was one thing when he was on reality television, raising his arm and say, "you're fired." it's another thing when he's the republican party presumptive nominee for president. americans, we don't need conspiracy theories and pathological self-congratulations. we need leadership, common sense and concrete plans because we are facing a brutal enemy.
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>> reporter: now, anderson, i think this is the kind of attack you're going to continue to see from clinton and her allies, this notion that while donald trump may be entertaining on the campaign trail that the things he says, the policies he prose posing would actually be dangerous if he were president. we'll see have it goes from here. we have to take a quick break. >> coming up, i'll speak with a member of the orlando city commission in just a moment and we'll continue to remember more of those whose lives have been lost. ♪ ♪
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just like we saw in boston after the marathon bombing, orlando is staying strong in the aftermath of a terror attack, an anti-gay attack. a makeshift memorial is growing larger each day outside city hall. joining me is orlando city commissioner regina hill. thank you for being here and for what you're doing. what do you want people to know about what you're doing here? >> what i want them to know in the hour of darkness, our city is more unified and stronger
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than ever. >> you're seeing people come together. there was a huge vigil last night and there was a vigil you just came from tonight. >> yes. there was even more vigil from this evening at a christian-based church, one of the largest churches here in central florida that brung pastors from all around central florida to actually embrace. i never seen anything like this, where the president of the lgbt community came and sat on the stage with bishop hunter and all type of pastors throughout central florida and embraced her and they brung up other community partners to embrace the lgbt community. >> i've heard criticism, we interviewed the attorney general pam bondi tonight, i've heard criticism from gay and lesbian people that some of the politicians who come forward
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seem to be painting themselves as champions of the gay community and they don't have the history. they don't have the track record of actually doing that. >> and you know, that is true. but what i've seen with this event is them now paying attention, them now embracing. >> and that's important. >> and that's important. it's not where they started but how this event has now embraced my friends because i've been a champion and a friend of the community. my sisters and brothers. because i see people. i don't see genders. i don't see color. i don't see classes. what i see with the lgbt community is those that have helped build this city, that has made this city grow economically, but have, you know, through the years been shunned. but what i can say through the leadership of our mayor buddy dyer and the council that i sit on, we married the first
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same-sex marriages here in the state of florida. when it comes to transgender, we passed a first ordinance in the state of florida. we have always embraced the community. but what i see with this event is that now all people have recognized -- >> so you don't think this is going to be a step backwards, people living in fear. you think this is going to propel people more into the streets? >> oh, no, this has made us one community in orlando strong, that's the haitian community, the gay community, the black community, the homeless community. i've had homeless people come out the corner and say what can we do. i heard a young lady say last night, what good can come of this? nothing. she's true with that. but he also stated what can we do that make the situation good and that's what i see the community and businesses doing. >> commissioner, thank you so
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much. appreciate all you're doing. right now we want to show you another makeshift memorial that has sprung up outside. juan and his partner luis were together for 14 years. we remember them and the names and the faces of all the lives taken away too soon. that coming up next. please stick around for a look back at all those we now know have lost their lives. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. we're here with bud light party super delegate michael pena to talk about diversity. america is a nation of immigrants. we're a schmorgasbord of cultures. a korean taco of togetherness. an everything bagel of unity, each one of us a different seed. that was beautiful, amy.
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well, after our broadcast last night a friend of mine sent me a text about the role call of those who died here that we read out on our broadcast last night. we knew all those boidz, andy said. i haven't been able to get that thought out of my head. he's right, of course. we knew all those boys and girls, those men and women and i think many gay and lesbian americans feel the same way right now. we knew those who lost their lives because those killed at pulse were no different than any of us. nothing separates us from them. as gay people, we share strands of a common bond and no matter where we were born -- or how we grew up or what we do for a living, we share those strands of a bond. if this killer hoped to set us backwards, to make us live in fear, i think he's made a sickening mistake.
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just as concert goers returned in paris and diners once again fill the cafes in that great city, the survivors and the orlando attack and gay and lesbians across this country will continue to stand up and continue to express love and show the world they and we are not afraid. it is, i think, one of many things we owe all those who are nothing longer here. we have photos of all 49 victims of the shootings. we want to leave you this hour with each of the photos and with each of their name. we wish their families aendz friends and partners and spouses and all the people that lived and loved them and all the lives they touched, we wish them peace and streng njt days to come. the song you're about to hear is the orlando gay men's chorus -- excuse me, the orlando gay chorus performing "you'll never walk alone" at a vigil here last night in orlando. ♪ walk through a storm
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keep your head up high ♪ ♪ and don't be afraid of the dark ♪ ♪ at the end of the storm is the golden sky ♪ ♪ and the sweet silver song of the lord ♪ ♪ walk on through the wind walk on through the rain ♪
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♪ walk on walk on ♪ ♪ with hope in your heart and you'll never walk alone ♪ ♪ you'll never walk alone ♪ when you walk through a storm keep your head up high ♪ ♪ and don't be afraid of the dark ♪ ♪ at the end of the storm
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is a golden sky ♪ ♪ and the sweet silver song of our life ♪ ♪ walk on through the wind walk on through the rain ♪ ♪ let your dreams be blown ♪ walk on walk on with hope in your heart ♪ ♪ and you'll never walk alone
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♪ you'll never walk alone alone ♪ >> we will remember them. that was a phrase yelled out or spoken out at the vigil in the wake of the shootings in aurora, colorado, at the names each of the dead was read out. the crowd said, we will remember them. i leave you with that tonight. we will remember them. cnn with don lemon starts right now. >> this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. anderson is with me now. i want to talk you to today. you've been going around. we've been on so many of the terrible stories. i've been noticing the hero nix this community and in spite of such tragedy. what is your take away from this so far? >> you talk to -- we've talked to so many people who survived the attack who hid in a handicap stall in the bathroom with