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begun control. it was a big discussion last night in the halls of congress. there was a filibuster that lasted nearly 15 hours. manu raju was there. he has this report. >> reporter: good morning, carol. chris murphy's nearly 15 hour filibuster marks the ninth longest in the history of the senate. whether there is any deal after the theater ics on the floor is another issue. should terrorists have the right to have firearms. republicans and democrats have squabbled how to construct such a bill. it has already been defeated this congress. the big question now is whether chris murphy's move has actually changed anything. now, carol, there were negotiations happening behind the scenes yesterday, led by republican senator john cornyn and diane feinstein of california to address how to prevent terrorists from obtaining firearms. involvement by the courts to
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ensure americans are not swept unfairly, but what harry reid told me yesterday, he said quote, anything cornyn wants, the nra wants, i'm opposed. that's some strong language. even if the senate does vote on these bills, it is unlikely there will be any significant changes to gun laws, and we haven't seen any changes in nearly a decade, carol. >> all right, manu, thank you for that reporting. for the first time, we're hearing from the orlando gunman in his own words. what you're about to see is about the bp oil spill. he was interviewed when he was working as a security guard. >> no one gives a [ bleeping ]. like everyone is out to get paid. they're hoping for more oil to come out and more people to complain, so they'll have jobs. because once people get laid off here, it is going to suck for them. they wants more disaster to happen. that's where the money making. >> all about the money, right? >> all about the money, exactly.
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>> we're also learning chilling new details about the shooter's final moments. an official telling cnn he not only posted to facebook during the attack, but actually searched online for pulse orlando while it was happening. the investigation intensifies around the gunman's widow. a grand jury is set to weigh whether she will face charges. let's bring in evan perez. evan, i want to start with you on the investigation. >> carol, the investigators have now uncovered these facebook postings by the gunman in orlando, including various accounts that he used, including during the attack. now, senator ron johnson has sent a letter to facebook. he is the chairman of the homeland security committee in the senate, asking for facebook to provide more information about these various accounts that the gunman used. i'm not going to really give much air time to some of his rants, but i will mention one last posting that he made.
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apparently during his rampage, it says in the next few days, you will see attacks from the islamic state and the u.s. he rants about bombing islamic state in syria and iraq, carol, over these postings over a period of months. he makes searches for al baghdadi, he makes searches for pulse nightclub, apparently part of what he was planning to do. it gives a picture of a gunman planning this act, this attack for months perhaps for certainly in the last few weeks, as he prepared to do this. now, we've also learned that he was consuming a lot of isis videos, including beheading videos. his wife said she noticed a change in his behavior, he was becoming more violent, and she even on the day he was leaving the house on saturday, the day before the attack, the night
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before the attack, she says that she had an inkling that he was up to something, that he might be going to carry out an attack. perhaps even against the pulse nightclub. she said that she tried to talk him out of it, and but she didn't call the police. which is why the th is now an investigation focused on her, and what she knew and whether or not she should have acted to try to prevent this tragedy, carol. we do know that as part of this investigation, the justice department prosecutors there in orlando plan to use a grand jury to present evidence to determine whether to bring charges. we expect that will happen in the coming weeks, carol. >> so evan, going back to the shooter, while he was inside this nightclub, he called 911, he called a television producer, he called one of his friends to say goodbye. and he, like, posted stuff on facebook? >> right, exactly. this really gives you a picture of somebody who wanted people to
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know why he was doing this, or at least in his mind, why he was doing this. obviously there is more complicated picture behind of all of this. we know investigators have uncovered his presence on gay chat rooms on the internet. and there seems to be some kind of struggle that he seems to be having with his identity, his sexual identity. he visited pulse, whether it was simply to prepare or to case the location to prepare for an attack, but some people who saw him there think that he also was struggling with his own sexual identity in the months and years before this attack, carol. >> unbelievable, evan perez. thank you so much. polo sandoval has also been digging into the investigation and his possible motives and the wife's possible involvement in all of this. what have you found out? >> well, at this moment, we understand that a grand jury is
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taking a closer look at the evidence here, and of course, as you may assume, a lot of evidence has been compiled and they would be the ones to decide whether or not she would have some sort of criminal culpability here. that's something we're keeping an eye on, and of course the president and vice-president now prepare to travel here. president obama expected to land here just afternoon noon, and he'll be here four hours, that will come with plenty of symbolism, an plenty of significant, carol. we have to remember, this was the laerjest terror attack on u.s. soil under the obama administration, so as a result, a lot of people will be watching the pressed tident today to see his remarks will include. his reluctance to use the term radical islam, and the threat posed by that. a terrorist inspired act, and it
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also recognizing what is his homegrown terror issue, as they try to get closer at least inside the mind of a man who caused so much pain. in the meantime, we're also hearing from a local producer, who tells us that -- well, at this point, that at least he received a phone call from the shooter himself during the actual act. >> on the other hand, i heard do you know about the shooting. and i said yeah, i'm getting information, i'm receiving calls right now. and he cut me off and he said i'm the shooter. he said he did it for the islamic state, he did it for isis. i asked him, you know, who is this, where are you. and he told me that's none of my f'ing business. >> again, that's just one of several pieces of this puzzle, several elements in what is a very fluid investigation. investigators obviously know who this was, know what happened,
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but that lingering question is why. >> all right, reporting live for us this morning, thanks so much. i want to bring you now to capitol hill. there is about to be a hearing set to testify, is the cia director, john brennan, expected to tell us the u.s.'s progress in fighting isis overseas, and whether it is helping with domestic terrorism at home. we're monitoring this hearing, of course, we'll keep you posted when john brennan begins his testimony. i want to bring in lorenzo at george washington university, welcome, lorenzo. thank you so much for being with me this morning. >> thank you, carol. good morning. >> lorenzo, you have done extensive studies on extremism in the united states, and what causes someone to be radicalized. with all that you've heard about this shooter, what happened to
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him? >> obviously very difficult to know. a lot of the pieces of the puzzle we still have to put together. a lot of things we'll never know. this seems to be somebody that on one hand, had some identity issues, the whole story about him being confused about his own sexual identity, both reports need to be confirmed. but there seems to be a part of the story. at the same time, this is somebody that for quite sometime had also flirted with jihad. opposing ideology, messages and tendencies. this was not somebody that was on the radar screen. he didn't live a pure, strict islamic way of life, at the same time, he sympathized with isis and other groups. he had popped up on the radar back in 2012. so obviously, very two parts
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that need to be put together. obviously, growing radicalization that seemed to have peaked over the last couple of months. now, whether he chose that specific target, a gay club because he had this internal struggle with his own homosexual tendencies, and conflicting with his own sense of guilt for not living a pure islamic lifestyle, that's part of the question we never fully know the answer to. >> so supposedly, right before he decided to go to the pulse nightclub and begin shooting, he sat down and he watched isis beheading videos online. do you find that that sort of thing happens with the other dmo doe m domestic terrorists that you've covered. >> that is very common. we saw that in san bernardino and in garland, texas. there is a process that individuals watch increasingly
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violent propaganda, especially leading up to the days of their actions, they build themselves up, pumping themselves up, watching graphic videos to give them of strength, courage, motivation. it is very common. the other common behavior we've seen is the being online as they carry out the attack, going on facebook, or tweeting or any way sending messaging out, as they carry out the attack. that's also dynamic, as we've seen in garland. they given t internet trajector from the moment they carry out the attack. it is very common. >> all right, lorenzo vidino, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we do appreciate it. let's talk a little bit about politics and democratic politics, shall we. we understand that hillary clinton is not vetting bernie sanders her democratic rival for
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the vp spot. suzanne malveaux is on this. what have you found out? >> happened at the capitol hotel, familiar with the decision here, saying that hillary clinton is not considering bernie sanders as her running mate. now, carol, i have to tell you, it is not a surprise. sanders was not expecting it. we are told that it was not discussed at their meeting on tuesday. so bernie sanders has returned -- he returned tuesday night from the beginning, back to his home in burlington, vermont and we are going to hear at 8:30, he is going to have a live stream message, from a sued yo to thousands of supporters around the country. we are not expecting an endorsement of clinton per se, but perhaps talking about his agenda and how he wants to change the democratic party. now, the clinton campaign is now saying that they are actively considering, among others, senator elizabeth warren,
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massachusetts, as a potential running mates. as you know, she would satisfy the progressive wing of the party, a very popular figure, carol. no time frame, but certainly a move forward. >> i've got to take ous back to capitol hill. this is john brennan, he is beginning his testimony. our assessment of the terrorist threat our citizens face, so-called islamic state or isil. the u.s. led coalition has made important progress against isil. it appears to be a long way from the vision of al baghdadi when he calfet in mosul. they're trending in the right direction. isil has lost large stretches of territory in syria and iraq. the media operations has been squeezed. it has struggled to replenish
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the fighters, because fewer are not able to travel to syria. more over, a number of isil members are becoming disillusioned with the group and eager to follow in the footsteps of members already defected. the anti-isil coalition are taking steps. underway to liberate cities, like fallujah and mabage, the coalition is removing leader from the battle field, there byby reducing their ability to fight. an influential leader was killed last month. isil however, is a formidable, tactics in an effort to regain momentum. in the coming months, we can expect isil to probe the frontlines on the battle field for weaknesses, to harass the forces that are holding the
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cities that previously controlled, and to conductor or attacks against its enemies inside iraq and syria. isil will probably rely more on gorilla tactics in syria and iraq that it currently holds. a sedteady stream shows they ca penetrate deep inside. the finances are also taking a hit. coalition efforts have reduced the group's ability to generate revenue and forced to cut costs and reallocate funds. yet, isil is adapting to the coalition's efforts, and it continues to generate at least tens of millions of dollars in revenue per month. primarily from taxation and those areas it controls and from crude oil sales. unfortunately, despite all our progress against isil in the
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battle field and financial realm, our efforts have not reduced their capability and global reach. the resources needed for terrorism are very modest. the group would have to suffer even heavier losses on territory, manpower and money for its capacity to decline significantly. more over, the group's foreign branches and networks could help preserve terrorism regardless of events in iraq and syria. as the pressure mounts on isil, we judge it will intensify its campaign to maintain dominance in the global terrorism agenda. since at least 2014, isil has been working to build an apparatus to direct and inspire attacks against its foreign enemies. the most prominent examples are the attacks in paris and brussels, which we assess were dicted by isil ace leadership. we judge they're training others
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for further attacks. they have a large cadre who could serve as operatives in the west. the group is probably exploring a variety of means including refugee routes. furthermore, as we've seen in orlando, san bernardino and elsewhere, isil is attempting to inspire attack business sympathizers who have no direct links to the group. last month, a senior isil figure publicly urged the followers to if they were unable to travel to syria and iraq. at the same time, isil is cu cultivating into a global organization. libya is probably the most developed and dangerous. we assess it's trying to africa and europe. isil sinai branch in egypt, the
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most active terrorist group in all of egypt. the branch focuses on military and government targets, but also targeted foreigners and tourists as we saw with a russian passenger jet last october. other branches worldwide, while also a concern, have struggled to gain traction. the yemen branch for instance has been ribbon with fractionism. in part, because of competition with the taliban. finally, on the propaganda front, the coalition is working to counter isil's machine. they paint a carefully crafted imagine to the outside word, lauding its own military efforts, and alleging the group is expanding globally, even as it faces set backs locally. isil releases a multitude of media products on a variety of platforms, including social media, mobile applications,
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radio and hard copy mediums. to disseminate the online prop gan dar -- propaganda, it uses many to further spread its messages. in sum, isil remains a formidable adversary, but we've succeeded on putting them on the defensive, forcing them to devote more energy to protect its vital infrastructure inside syria and iraq. while this will be a long fight, the seriousness of the threat and the need to meet it collectively and decisively. it also dominates my conversation with intelligence counterparts globally worldwide. i frequently engage with them together in terms of information sharing, and being able to compliment our respective strengths and capability so we can destroy isil thoroughly. now, as you well know, c.i.a. is
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not just a counterterrorism agency, we have a global charter. as i often tell young officers at c.i.a., i have never seen a time when our country faced such a wide variety of threats to our national security. if you run your finger as long almost any portion of the map from asia pacific to north africa, you will quickly find a flash point with global implications. china is modernizing its military and extending its reach in the south china sea. north korea is expands its nuclear weapons program. russia is threatening its neighbors. then there is the cyber domain, where states and sub actors transportation networks and organizations of every stripe inside government and out. i particularly appreciate the work of this committee to try to come to grips and to address the cyber threats we face as a nation. the face of these many daunting
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challenges, the nation depends on cia to help keep our country strong and secure. in the complex world, policymakers depend on cia more than ever for insight and options. if we are to meet the national security challenges that confront us, we must constantly adapt and innovative. that's why we announced an effort last year for the future. since launching the program just over 15 months ago we have taken important steps to ensure that our agency fully adapts to the challenges of our time. we have so much more work do. modernization is more about lines and boxes on an organizational chart. it is more about a mind set, innovative constantly so we can keep up with an ever changing world. the key part of this mind set, our commitment to making -- >> all right, we're going to break away, this is john brennan testifying. i want to bring in pentagon
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correspondent, barbara starr, what director brennan said, i don't know, it didn't inspire much hope. so parse this out for us. what is he saying? >> good morning, carol. the director is giving one of the most candid, blunt assessments of isis that i think the washington bur rahas heard sometime. he is acknowledging the battle field successes that u.s. troops are having some success against isis, particular places in syria, and in iraq. but brennan steps to the larger picture, and it is pretty dire. what he is talking about. i want to go back over a couple of those points. first, he says and let me just read it to you in part, he says we judge the cia, we judge that isil is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks. isil has a large cadre of
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western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west. what he is talking about there is isis directing people to attack in the west. perhaps something quite different than what the world has seen in orlando, someone that it is believed at this point was inspired, self-radicalized if you will on the internet. the cia director saying, again, large cadre of western fighters, who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west. then he goes on to give his agency's assessment of where it all really stands right now from his point of view. let me read this to you, the director of the cia says and i quote. unfortunately our battle field an the financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism, capability, and global reach. isis of course establishing
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affiliates around the world now, one its strongest affiliates in libya, off the coast of north africa to south of europe where isis has an estimated 6,000 operatives in that north african country on europe's southern flank. so the director of the cia giving a fairly grim overall assessment of where the fight against isis stands. the pentagon often talks about these battle field successes. we've seen them talk about that all the time. brennan acknowledges that but warning today, there is a much larger picture. carol. >> all right, barbara starr, reporting live from the pentagon. of course, we'll continue to monitor that and the testimony of john brennan, the cia director. i have a bit of breaking news right now. the flight data recorder from egypt air 804 has been located. we told you yesterday that parts of the plane had been retrieved from under the water. they've now found the flight data recorder.
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all right, as i told you before the break, they have found the flight data recorder from egypt flight 804. bed weidman is in cairo to tell us more. >> reporter: yeah, apparently it's the flight voice recorder that was found, and according to a statement put out by the investigating committee of the egyptian civil aviation ministry, the recorder was found in pieces. so it's apparently been damaged, but in the statement, they say that it is the memory, the memory has been retrieved, and of course, that is the most important part of that. now, it will be transferred from this ship. it is called a john lethrbridge
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that will help with the investigation, and it will be transferred from the ship to the egyptian authorities. we don't know exactly when. when that happens, they'll start downloading the information from this recorder, and start to analyze it. carol. >> and i do understand that some pieces of the plane were found as well. can you bring us up-to-date about that? >> reporter: yes, that was announced yesterday, by the ministry of civil aviation that they had located several pieces of the plane. they don't specify which parts of the plane were found, nor do they say where the location is. now, we know that they had narrowed it down to sort of a five kilometer radius off the northern coast of egypt, but the precise details of what has been found and where, we still don't know from egyptian authorities,
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carol. >> all right, ben, reporting live from cairo this morning. thank you. on to politics now. exactly one year ago today, donald trump burst on to the stage launching his bid for the white house in a glittering new york city event. some 12 months, and many, many headlines after the presumptive republican nominee continues to raise eyebrows. his riff with the party leaders rose, trump offering tough talk to lawmakers and donors, who criticize his rhetoric or his policy positions. his message, be quiet. phil mattingly with more. >> we are a little more than a month away from the convention, 33 days to be exact. this is the moment where the party is supposed to be coalescing behind the nominee. everybody deciding that this is the presumptive nominee we wanted and this is the presumptive nominee we have. it looks like the riffs are
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growing deeper, and donald trump saying if you're not behind me, just shut up. >> our leaders have to get tougher. this is too tough to do it alone. but you know what, i think i'm going to be forced to. >> donald trump, ready to turn his back on gop leaders. threatening to go it alone if they fail to fall in line. >> we have to have our republicans, either stick together or let me just do it by myself, i'll do very well. >> coming days after backlash of republicans refusing to back trump's proposed muslim ban in the wake of the terror attack. >> don't talk. please, be quiet. just be quiet, to the leaders, because they have to get tougher. they have to get sharper, smarter. >> house speaker paul ryan, continuing to rebuke trump's views. >> i actually think a muslim ban based on religion is counter-productive to our efforts to fight terrorism. we believe in the first amendment, with saypre dom is f
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religion. >> removing terror suspects from gun after this week's attack. >> i'm going to be talking to the nra and starting a dialogue. i want to hear what they have to say. they're terrific people. >> it welcomes the meeting. maintains its opposition to an out right ban. trump, going as far as to say that if more people were armed inside the orlando nightclub, fewer would have died. >> you would have had a situation, folks, which would have been always horrible, but nothing like the carnage that we all, as a people, suffered. >> hillary clinton, firing back, questioning trump's legitimacy as a candidate. >> not one of donald trump's reckless ideas would have saved a single life in orlando. it's just more evidence that he is temperamentally unfit and totally unqualified to be commander in chief. >> and carol, what we've seen this week, the back and forth between donald trump and not only hillary clinton, but also
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president obama. a number of democratic surrogates as the party decides and starts to coalesce behind their likely nominee. underscores the real issue donald trump has. no question about it. he is willing to go it alone. his point has been throughout i did this without all of you to begin with and you're not. however, as the democrats get behind hillary clinton, donald trump very much on an island right now. that's problematic when you look at the next five months and you look at his disapproval ratings and poll ratings as they continue to slide over the course of this week, carol. >> stay right there. i want to bring in larry sabato. larry, one of donald trump's top aides is picking up where his boss left off. he is slamming the republican establishment. he did that on "new day" this morning. you have to hear it. here it is. >> the leadership of the republican party needs to figure out what they want. either they want to get behind
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the presumptive nominee, who will be the nominee of this party, and make sure that we do everything we can to win in november, or we're just asking them if they can't do that, then just shut the hell up. >> so shut the hell up. larry, a question. donald trump keeps hinting he can do it alone. can he do it alone? >> absolutely not. i've heard people say, well, look, he won the nomination, and the leadership opposed him, either publicly or privately. that's true. he got somewhere around 14 million votes. do you know how many will vote in november. 135 million. they're much more diverse. they're much more different than donald trump. for that matter, most republicans. so the truth is, republicans, the republican leadership, at least, i think has made its decision. they're going to do everything they can to try to hold on to
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the senate and the house in congress, and donald trump will have to make his way on his own for the most part. >> so phil, donald trump has a much smaller campaign staff than hillary clinton, and he has far less money. he is actually depending on the rnc to help him run a national campaign. so again, can he really go it alone? >> well, this is the issue that larry kind of underscores perfect perfectly. he doesn't have the infra strook ture to run a general campaign. he is not just targeting primary voters who earned media on television, cable news, we'll see him as much as he wants. he needs a grassroots organization, and the rnc has that capability. however, hillary clinton's team has been building that for more than a year. they have ten times the number of staff members that donald trump and trump's team have. donald trump is relying entirely on the rnc. that's a much more generic
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infrastructure. it has been built up to more than $100 million, but it is difficult to see, and one of the major questions, carol, the republicans have, how can you take those two things, merge them together, and compete with the democratic that has been built so intensively. donald trump has made very clear, a slimmer operation, a cheaper operation, should be looked upon by voters as a good thing. that would be how he would run the u.s. government he says is bloated. as larry pointed out, as you look to target more than just the sliver of voters, there is a lot of concerns inside the republican party that what donald trump is setting out to do doesn't accomplish those goals. >> and whether mr. trump likes it or not, larry, his rhetoric
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pairs not appears not to be working. he is losing to hillary clinton and a 70% disapproval rating. >> carol, he has got a heap of problems on his plate. the heap is getting bigger and bigger. the republican convention is only a month away. that's where the marriage ceremony is supposed to take place between donald trump and the republican party. you don't have to have a crystal ball to project that this is going to be a very troubled marriage. and i think it is pretty obvious already that the clinton campaign is light years, light years ahead of trump in terms of the ground operation, get out the vote operations, and look at even television, which is relatively easy to do. the clinton campaign is already on the air, with a 7-plus million dollars advertising campaign, both positive and negative ads, in virtually every swing state. >> all right, i have to leave it
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all right, just minutes from now, president obama and vice-president joe biden will be wheels up on their way to florida. they'll be making a rare joint visit to the shooting where the president will take on a role he says he has played far too often. as he meets with survivors and grieving families, he'll likely hear about joseph sotomayor, and he made it his mission to open the world to gay travelers.
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earlier this year, edward organized the first of gay cruise to cuba. they called him loyal, clever, eddie sotomayor was just 34 years old when he died sunday morning. i'm joined by his cousin david. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. >> first of all, just tell us about eddie. >> eddie was an amazing soul. i got to meet him ten years ago when we first found each other, and blessed each others as cousins. i was just out of my first year, and as soon as we met, we bonldbonl bounded, and he found out that i only knew my father's parents and his three siblings, and i had no relationship with that family, so he immediately said i'm your cousin, no questions asked. he became the one family that i had that i was able too go around and share so many amazing things i was accomplishing in my career that i couldn't share at that time with my side of the
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family. and he just was so amazing. and that's why i'm here. because us as a kpcommunity, its amazing to see how we open our arms and to become family who doesn't have a relationship with their blood family. and so you know, these clubs is like a second home to a lot of us. it is almost a safe haven, if you will, where you don't have to worry about your sexual orientation or how you identify yourself. boys can wear lipstick and red bottoms. it didn't matter who you want to be and how you want to present yourself. you know, we had somebody come in and shake us up, and come into our home, and you know, i just want to be able to let everyone know that it is okay to be sad, but stay strong, you can mourn, but continue to have your pride. >> tell us about eddie's heroic efforts. he died trying to save someone else. >> there is tens of thousands that will tell you that he was always there, and put anybody before him. and he was just that guy.
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there is no one that i have ever met that could say anything bad about him. i just, you know, i'm so honored that everybody is paying tributes and respecting and being so supportive to everybody, to the friends and family of all the victims. >> the president and vice-president will be here in just a couple of hours. and they'll meet with survivors and meet with family members. how do you feel about that? >> words can't express how amazing that is to see the support of such -- our leaders, you know, coming down and taking time to realize that this is a real issue, and that you know, we do need to stand together, united, full of love, not hate. united, not divided. just stand tall. >> the club, you said it was a haven, should it reopen? >> i mean, that's -- it's -- i can't -- i can't answer that. right now. i don't know how i would feel about that right now. but i do know that we cannot stay fearful. we can -- we have to make a
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promise to everybody to all the victims as a community, we have to come out, march our parades with our heads held up high full of love and not hate and remember that we are a family and stick together. >> david sotomayor, thank you so much for stopping by. >> thank you. for more, i want to bring in jennifer grandholm to correct the record, the only super pack coordinating with the clinton campaign and former governor for the staft te of michigan. good morning, jennifer, thank you for being with me. >> you bet, carol. >> a community shattered by sunday's attack. what do they need to say here? >> well, that, i mean, obviously the president, there is nobody better than the president and the vice-president both at con so lo consoling people and the victims and families are in our prayers,
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there are many who say after the prayers come, action. and i -- my hat is off to senator chris murphy and the filibuster that he was orchestrating yesterday to be able to try to do something to get congress to move in a direction that is consistent with their constituents about preventing gun violence. i would say, carol, just quickly about that. there are three levels of what they could do. they were filibustering this loophole that would allow terrorists on the watch list. that's one thing. but if the terrorists could go to a gun show and buy a gun without any checks, that defeats the purpose. so both of those loopholes have to be closed, and i would say the third is that, you know, that gunman was holding an assault rifle, and last night, the family of the person who actually created the ar-15, the smoker -- i think it is the smoker family, the stoner
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family. they came out and they said that their grandfather, who invented that weapon, had no intention for that weapon to be used by civilians. it was a military weapon. all three of those measures should be something that congress should consider, because they're constituents demand it. >> let's talk about that filibuster. before the filibuster there were republicans willing to talk about gun control which is quite unusual. they were willing to maybe pass amendments, right, instituting more gun control measures, and yet that filibuster, why do that then? why not just let things evolve? >> carol, but there were republicans who joined in the filibuster. how long must be wait for the republicans in congress who have been objecting to this for years and years, how long do we have to wait? how many of these tragedies do
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we have to see? god bless them for raising the public profile of this. who knows whether they would have gone forward with it or not, but now there will be some kind of vote. i sure hope that it leads to others. i mean, truly, the nra in 1999, wayne lapierre, head of the nra, said they favored -- that nra was reasonable and they favored closing the gun show loophole. and now where are we? so honestly the nra has moved so far out of the realm of what is rational that they have become completely against what the mainstream of american voters want to see. i just hope these members of congress, democrats and republicans, listen to their voters and not be held hostage by the nra. >> and i admire your passion. i'm just saying that after what went down in san bernardino, there were gun control measures presented before congress, and those measures went down to
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defeat. so now this -- now you know you had republicans coming out and saying, you know, maybe we should look at why somebody on the terror watch list should be able to buy a gun, and then the filibuster happens. so, again, i mean -- >> but are you suggesting, carol -- are you saying that the filibuster will prevent a vote? >> i don't know. i'm just asking the question because it was just kind of like kicking sand in their faces. >> well, i don't know. >> some people want to term it that way. >> kicking sand. kicking sand when people are being killed in record numbers across this country every single day. honestly, i don't know that politeness has worked. i think you have to take a strong stand. you know, i have been working with correct the record in support of hillary clinton. she has been so clear about doing reasonable gun safety measures, things that would be no-brainers to most gun owners. most gun owners favor this. so this notion of being polite
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a heartbreaking end to one family's nightmare. the body of that little boy lane graves, 2 years old, snatched by an alligator at a disney resort has been found. the sheriff says lane was found intact. his body was intact. he actually, the little boy drowned in the lagoon after the gator pulled him under the water. now the search is on for the alligator that killed the little boy. >> our investigation is still ongoing, and we're going to continue to evaluate the evidence we have and we're going to try to continue searching. we're going to make certain we have the alligator that was involved and that we remove it
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from the lake. so we're going to either verify we have captured that alligator through forensics work or we'll continue to look for an alligator until we find the right one. >> victor blackwell is live in orlando with more on this. good morning, victor. >> reporter: carol, good morning to you. we've learned that walt disney world resorts, the beaches across the property are closed today and we're told by an official will remain closed until further notice. of course, they took that move out of what they call an abundance of caution after the death of that 2-year-old, lane graves. the sheriff here says that because his body was found intact, he believes that the boy drowned, but, of course, the results of the autopsy will share the actual cause of death. now, we know that the president -- rather the ceo of the walt disney company, bob iger, has reached out to the graves family speaking to them by phone. that happening as the resort management is expressing their
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condolences and assessing the safety at the water -- the bodies of water, the lagoons and beaches across this property determining whether or not signs like the no swimming sign that was at that seven seas lagoon where that boy was dragged in and killed are sufficient or there should be a beware of alligator sign or some other message. we know from the state florida fish and wildlife conservation commission that according to them walt disney word resorts is very proactive about legaling with wildlife here. regularly moving gators from the bodies of water but the assessment of safety here will go on after this tragic death of the 2-year-old boy, the most recent attack was 30 years ago. that was not fatal, but brought back what we understand were some very difficult memories for that person who was attacked here in 1986. carol? >> all right. victor blackwell reporting live for us this morning. thank you. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now.
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and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this morning. i'm live in orlando. less than 20 minutes from now the president, president obama will leave the white house bound for orlando. of course, the city reeling from so much tragedy in recent days. the president and the vice president actually will meet with survivors of the nightclub massacre and the families of those who didn't escape the bloodbath. this as we get a glimpse inside the mind of a monster. new evidence that the orlando killer was posting on facebook before and during the rampage. one chilling post reportedly gloating over the vengeance of isis. minutes ago the cia director told lawmakers do not view this as an isolated incident. >> we judge that isil is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks. isil has a large cadre of
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western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west. and the group is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the west, including in refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel. furthermore, as we have seen in orlando, san bernardino, and elsewhere, isil is attempting to inspire attacks by sympathizers who have no direct links to the group. >> and after nearly 15 hours of talk, a whisper of action. senate democrats end their filibuster and say republicans will allow a vote on new gun laws. it's a revitalized fight that may also shape the presidential race. we're covering all the angles this morning. the presidential visit, the latest in the investigation, and this morning's chilling warning from the cia director. let's begin with cnn's boris sanchez. he's in orlando with more on the investigation. hi, boris.
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>> reporter: hey, carol. yeah, the president is supposed to arrive here in orlando in just a few hours. he's set to meet with the families of victims and survivors at about 1:30. he's also meeting with surgeons, doctors, and nurses that tended to those wounded, and aside from that, he's also meeting with law enforcement officers who were first on the scene dealing with this devastating massacre. this is a trip that's become very familiar for the president. he's made it many times before, whether to san bernardino or charleston, south carolina, or newtown, connecticut. the white house yesterday saying that this is going to be an emotional trip for the president and that he's here to lend comfort and support to those most affected by the shooting. we can also tell you that it's against a very strange backdrop not only because of the timing with the filibuster going on in congress, but also with the president's icy relationship with the governor of florida, rick scott. yesterday rick scott coming out and saying that the president had not even offered to call him to give him condolences for the
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shooting despite days passing since the shooting. after the call though, once president obama did call rick scott, he did not offer a public thank you. he's supposed to meet him on the tarmac later today. you can expect that will be very far in the background though as the president tries to rebuild the city of orlando's morale. carol? >> all right. boris sanchez reporting live for us this morning. now to the chilling new details about the gunman's final moments. an official telling cnn the shooter not only posted to facebook during the attack, but actually searched online for pulse, orlando, while it was happening. and the investigation intensifies around the gunman's widow. a grand jury set to weigh whether she will face any charges. let's bring in cnn's polo sandoval with more on this. hi, polo. >> reporter: hey, carol. as you may expect, federal officials are keeping fairly tight-lipped when it comes to any hard evidence that's being presented to that grand jury regarding his wife. at the same time several little bits of information that continue to come in from law
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enforcement officials now suggesting that the gunman's wife is now coming forward with conflicting reports. she had initially told investigators that she had absolutely no idea that this attack was being planned, and then later, of course, apparently told investigators that she then tried to talk her husband out of the attack as he was heading here to the pulse nightclub on that fateful night. at the same time we're also told that she accompanied him at least once to purchase ammo but she maintains she had no idea that that ammo was later be used here in that terrible shooting, and lastly, carol, i can tell you investigators are also investigating why she possibly came here to the pulse nightclub with her husband at least in the months leading up to the attack to try to find out obviously if they were possibly here to case this scene, but, again, she is a key witness in this whole case and ultimately these investigators are walking a fine line where they want to keep that line of communication with her so she can continue to cooperate with investigators, but they also have to be quite
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frank here and face the reality that she could, and again i manufacture siemphasize on coult to be arrested in this case, carol. >> all right. polo sandoval reporting live. thanks so much. all of this happening as the cia warns despite efforts to wipe out isis on the battlefield, the terror group still poses a growing threat. i want to bring in cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr and former senate intelligence chairman and host of cnn's new show "declassified," mike rog s rogers. barbara, first of all, tell us what about brennan said before senators today. >> reporter: well, a very astonishing perhaps set of remarks by the cia director because they were so blunt, and they were so much in public. for those who follow it, maybe it wasn't a big surprise, but it was a very public acknowledgment that the war against isis is only having some limited success on the battlefield perhaps. the cia director making a couple of key points.
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i just want to quickly read those to you. he says despite all our progress against isil on the battlefield and in the reasonable rfinancia efforts have not reduced the group's terrorism capability and global reach. as you mentioned a couple minutes ago, carol, he also talked about the fact that, again, in his words that isis is training and attempting to deploy operatives for further attacks. isil has a large cadre of western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west. so what john brennan, the drai dire cia director, is talking about is something quite different than what appears at least to be emerging in orlando, someone who was self-radicalized who got a lot of inspiration, if you will, off the internet. he's talking about operatives directed by isis with the capability of coming to the west. air strikes, ground troops, they do some good, but they are far from able to fully defeat isis.
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carol? >> and, mike, you're a former senate and intelligence chairman. as you were listening to mr. brennan today, what went through your mind? >> well, when you think of the administration coming out a couple weeks ago and saying that travel to europe this summer is ill-advised, and then you lay that on top of what the cia director said today which was pretty aggressive when it comes to their public position on isis, we have a huge and growing problem with isis. it means there's two kinds of attacks that they're trying to conduct. one is where they coordinate the attacks. that's where the cia director was saying they're actually trying to infiltrate migrant flows. they're trying to either do it through smuggling routes or by ele ele legitimate air travel using stolen passports or false documents and then they're trying to inspire people. the orlando shooting was the inspire part of it that worked and got this individual to
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slaughter 50 innocent americans. now they're doing these coordinated isis attacks. this could be a very dangerous summer, indeed, and we're going to have to do something about isis in raqqah who is giving these permission slips to folks like mateen in orlando. >> so, barbara, what is our military doing in raqqah? i know that russia is also supposedly fighting isis terrorists in raqqah. what's happening there? >> well, you know, raqqah is a very key center. it is isis' self-declared capital in syria where it has been believed for many months that the leadership of the organization has been in and around that area. they may have moved recently. the u.s. is not on the ground in raqqah. that is really the front line of enemy action. there are trainers, advise and assist teams to the north of there trying to train local syrian, arab and kurdish fighters to be able to move their front line south towards
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raqqah. there are air strikes over -- in and around raqqah, but, again, you know, you've seen people talk about why doesn't the u.s. just put ground troops there? you know, the pentagon i think it's safe to say would come back and say, how would you put u.s. troops on the ground in raqqah? how do you identify once you're on the ground who is isis, who is a civilian? how do you get troops in? how do you get troops out? how do you sustain them? resupply them? how do you keep that kind of operation going? how many casualties is the american public willing to tolerate in an operation like that? so it does raise this very key question, is there more the u.s. military could do? is there more a president could order them to do beyond air strikes, beyond training and trying to get local forces to move further on the ground? raqqah is a terrific example of just how tough that equation really is, carol. >> and just a reminder, raqqah is in syria, right? that presents a whole host of problems that we don't have in
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iraq, right? so, mike, i ask you, what more can the united states do or should do within syria? >> so one of the things that our special forces community has been concerned about is this advise and consent. they believe they need to have that next step added to their mission set, which would mean that they could actually engage the enemy with our allied forces there, which gets, candidly, better success on the battlefield. but in raqqah most of the military planners will tell you if you have a multinational force that moves in, not a u.s.-faced force, because you don't want u.s. troops going door to door in raqqah trying to clean out that town -- that would be i think a disaster -- but we can leverage up the success of a multinational force that begins to put real pressure on raqqah. if we don't do that, we're going to continue to see that's their center of gravity. that's where they're running all their propaganda operations that
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take advantage of beheadings they've done or burning women alive in cages to show how brutal they are or inspiring somebody like mateen to do their work. e longer we don't dl with this leveraging up u.s. special capabilities on the battlefield, the longer we're going to put up with operations that happen in europe and operation that is are either inspired or directed by isis in the united states. >> so, mike, in your opinion does either presidential candidate, presumptive presidential candidate, is that on their agenda? because we only hear about things like banning muslims or bombing the out of countries. and hillary clinton seems to be going along the obama route, right? and you just heard from the cia director that, you know, we're still kind of losing to isis in a way. so in your opinion, is either presidential candidate hitting the mark when it comes to fighting isis? >> i don't think so, but here is why. the american public has really
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not engaged in a conversation about what it's going to take to defeat isis, and american politi politics, we're switching to some very important issues we're going to have to deal with around the shooting but not the most important issue which is why did he do it? he did it because isis inspired him to do it and they're doing it from raqqah because they have this safe haven and control ground. so we're going to have to -- leadership is important on this issue. i think republicans and democrats are going to have to come together. we should authorize this president to take further action by use of military force against isis wherever they work, train, and supply themselves, and if you notice, the cia director was basically saying we're losing that part of the fight. we're just not winning it. not necessarily losing, we're just not winning it, so they can continue to do it. if we saw that, if we saw republicans and democrats come together with an authorization for military force and a solid
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plan from president barack obama i think both presidential candidates can come to a place where she cthey can assure the american people they will finish the job when they're presidents. we have lives of americans at stake. we have lives of our allies in europe at stake, and we should all come together. i think congress needs to act. the president needs to put a much better, more robust, multinational plan together, and incrementalism isn't going to work. we should be as angry about this as people are angry about the gun issue and other issues in this thing because we've waited so long and allowed them to seep themselves and become so operational operating out of their provincial capital in raqqah. >> all right. i have to leave it there. barbara starr, mike rogers, thanks to both of you. i do appreciate it. also this programming note, mike rogers' new series "declassified" premiere this is sunday night at 10:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. now, the issue of gun violence, let's talk about that. it's inspiring this stark front page of today's boston globe.
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it features an assault weapon used in so many of these killings and a sparse three words, "make it stop." and the democrat leading the senate filibuster chris murphy invokes the image of one boy killed in the mass shooting at sandy hook. murphy was a congressman representing newtown, connecticut, when 20 school children and 6 adults were gunned down. cnn's senior political reporter manu raju has more on the push to change the nation's gun laws. >> reporter: good morning, carol. now, chris murphy's nearly 15-hour filibuster marks the ninth longest in the history of the senate. but whether there's any deal after the theatrics on the floor is an open question. the main issue, whether suspected terrorists should have the right to obtain firearms, but for months republicans and democrats have skabquabbled ove how to structure such a bill and each party's bill has already been defeated this congress. so the big question now is whether chris murphy's move has
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actually changed anything. >> i have had enough. tragedies continue to occur, and we just move forward with business as usual. >> reporter: democratic senator chris murphy ending his nearly 15-hour filibuster on the senate floor early this morning. after saying he has a commitment from republican leaders to take on two proposed gun control measures. quote, i am proud to announce that in 14-plus hours on the floor we will have a vote on closing the terror gap and universal background checks. the dramatic scene comes just four days after the orlando terrorist attack at a gay nightclub that killed 49 people and injured 53 others. the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history. dozens of democrats joining murphy on the senate floor. >> through all of the shouting, we miss what should be obvious. it was a terrorist with a gun that killed all those people.
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>> enough, enough, enough. what we're seeking is common sense. >> reporter: and even some republican senators. murphy's voice amplified into the night as the hash tag filibuster was trending on twitter during his marathon session. the connecticut senator had just been elected when a gunman shot and killed 20 first graders and 6 educators at sandy hook elementary school in his home state. evoking this heartfelt plea. >> i can't tell you how hard it is to look into the eyes of the families of those little boys and girls who were killed in sandy hook and tell them that almost four years later we've done nothing, nothing. >> reporter: now, carol, there were negotiations happening behind the scenes yesterday led by republican senator john cornyn and democratic senator
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dianne feinstein of california to exactly address how to prevent terrorists from obtaining firearms. republicans want to ensure there's involvement by the courts to ensure americans are not swept up unfairly, but what harry reid told me yesterday, he said, quote, anything cornyn wants, the nra wants, i'm opposed. that's some strong language from the democratic leader of the senate. even if the senate does vote on these bills, it's very unlikely there will be any significant change to gun laws this year and we have not seen changes to gun laws in a major, significant way in nearly a decade. carol? >> all right. manu raju reporting. still to come in the "newsroom," the republican party and it's presumptive nominee on a collision course. donald trump is telling key lawmakers to shut up. what are you doing? getting faster. huh? detecting threats faster, responding faster, recovering faster. when your security's built in not just bolted on,
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just please be quiet. just don't talk. please be quiet. just be quiet to the leaders because they have to get tougher, sharper, smarter. we have to have our republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself. i'm do -- i'll do very well. >> trump's campaign co-chairman echoing those sentiments earlier this morning. >> leadership of the republican party needs to figure out what they want. either they want to get behind the presumptive nominee who will be the prom nominee of this pard make sure we do everything we can to win in november or we're just asking them if they can't do that, then just shut the hell up. >> joining me now to talk about this is joseph borelli, co-chair of the donald trump campaign in new york. hi, joseph. >> good morning. good morning. so do you think mr. trump will
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really go it alone if republican leaders don't, quote, shut up? >> look, i don't think he has a choice. he's won. he's earned the republican nom rati nation and now he's got a good to do as good as possible running for president. we've all heard the phrase, lead, follow, or get out of the way. as far as leading, the establishment has not won this election. the voters in the republican party didn't choose the five or six credible establishment candidates that they were offered, and donald trump emerged with the majority of votes. 85% of republicans are supportive of a donald trump presidency. that number is significant for two reasons. number one, it's higher than hillary clinton has at this point and, number two, it's a higher numr than ronald reagan had in 1980 in june. >> but here ask the thing, joseph. i know you're painting a rosy picture, but if you look at the most recent string of polls,
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donald trump isn't faring very well. he's got a 70% disapproval rating. that number has only gone up. nobody has won the presidency with that high of an unfavorable -- nobody has accomplished that. so mr. trump's rhetoric really isn't resonating. >> right, but, you know, if you want to say no one has won the presidency with a 70% disapproval rating, no one has won the presidency with a 60-something percent disapproval rating which is what hillary clinton has. if you want to make the case that unfavorables are what's going to drive voters either way, then hillary clinton is probably the worst possible candidate for the democrats to be running in this race as well. >> well, her disapproval ratings are high but they're not 70% and that's got to concern you, right? going back to the republican lawmakers for just a second, they also have a responsibility to their own constituents, and they have a responsibility to the country. and if they really believe
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donald trump's rhetoric is not good for the country, don't they have the responsibility to say that? >> they do, and i have been one of the people who have disagreed with donald trump on issues. >> so why should they shut up? >> it's not unique to have disagreement -- >> but why should they shut up? >> they're not helping. they're not helping the republican party. 85% of the people in the republican party want donald trump to be the nominee. if you're not going to help -- >> again, if these republican lawmakers who have a responsibility to their constituency and to the country at large think that donald trump's rhetoric is dangerous, then don't they have the responsibility to speak up? >> well, they're all saying it's dngedz. they're saying we disagree on things. paul ryan was very clear that he believes a muslim -- >> no, the muslim ban they're saying is not a good idea. >> well, he's also saying we should replace it with a security check. he's not saying that donald trump is dangerous or doing something fundamentally wrong. he's simply disagreeing on an issue and presenting an alternative, which is his right
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as speaker of the house. i imagine when donald trump is president and paul ryan is speaker there will be disagreements and there will have to be compromises. >> do you think it would be smart for donald trump to go it alone? >> no. i'd rather see the party come together behind him, but, again, not to keep hitting the same point, he won the majority of votes. the establishment -- look, these people were people who were not helpful. they didn't want to see the tea party movement. now they don't want to see a populist candidate rallying republican voters behind him. that's all fine. but i'd rather see them also come together behind him. that said, donald trump has an obligation. he is taking the mantle of the republican party forward, whether the establishment republicans like it or not. he has the obligation to do so. it would be much more helpful if they got behind the candidate, and, again, it would be helpful also if they stopped, you know, talking about trump in negative terms as they sometimes have. >> all right. i have to leave it there. joseph borelli. thank you so much. >> thank you. i have a bit of breaking
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news now on the crash of egyptair flight 804. after weeks and weeks of searching, investigators have finally found the cockpit voice recorder. a major piece of the puzzle that could help investigators figure out why that plane went down. senior international correspondent ben wedeman live in vcairo, egypt. he has more for you. hi, ben. >> reporter: hi, carol. well, we heard from the egyptian investigation into the crash of flight 804 that they have found the cockpit voice recorder in several pieces it should be stressed. now, they say they have been able to retrieve the memory which, of course, is the most important part of that. it's not at all clear according to an official close to the investigation if the memory is actually functioning at this point. now, we understand that the memory was and the other parts of the cockpit voice recorder were retrieved by a french ship taking part in this effort and
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that the voice data recorder will be delivered to the egyptian port of alexandria tomorrow. egyptian officials say it's going to take several days if that memory is functioning for them to analyze it, but it's important to keep in mind that this is a significant step forward to the investigation in the investigation to this airplane that went down on the 19th of may, and, of course, a black box, black boxes put out a signal for a limited amount of time. the flight went down on the 19th of may. they believed that the signal may -- signals may be detectable until around the 24th of june, and, of course, what is missing is the flight data recorder which would provide further clues to this ongoing mystery. carol? >> all right, ben wedeman reporting live from cairo, egypt this morning. i want to take you to maryland, the state of maryland, near washington, d.c. this is a picture of air force
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one. you see it waiting on the tarmac. the president is expected to be on board that plane very soon. he will be on his way here to orlando, florida, we believe the touchdown to be 1:30 eastern. is that correct? 12:30 eastern. it's supposed to land in orlando. i do believe the florida governor will meet the president on the tarmac. joe biden, the vice president, will be coming too. i trust he will be arriving in a separate aircraft. both men will be meeting with survivors and grieving family members in orlando and the president says he's coming here as comforter in chief, something he has had to do far too often during his tenure as president. we'll keep you posted. i'll be right back. i'm terrible at golf.
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and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. i'm live here in orlando, florida, and you are looking at live pictures of faair force on. president obama to take off very soon. he will be heading to orlando to meet with survivors and families of the victims. let's get right to cnn's athena jones at the white house this morning. joe biden will be here too. it's unusual for the president and the vice president to the appear together at such a tragic time. >> reporter: good morning, carol. it is unusual, but i can tell you that the vice president was with the president last year at around this time when he traveled to charleston, south carolina, to memorialize the
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victims of that church shooting there at mother emmanuel. so it isn't entirely unprecedented, but the fact that both of them are traveling to orlando shows how important this visit is. the white house believes this visit is very important. it's going to be an emotional trip. as you mentioned, the president and vice president will be meeting with survivors, with victims' families, with first responders, the doctors, surgeons, and emts that worked so hard to save as many lives as they could in early hours of sunday morning. he will be delivering brief remarks offering his condolences and his support. white house press secretary josh earnest said yesterday he made particular note of the fact it was the lgbt community that was targeted there in orlando and that he believes that offering support from the president will be a, quote, powerful affirmation for those american citizens, but, carol, as you mentioned, this is a trip that has had to take place too often. it's easy to loose count the
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numb -- lose count the president has had to travel to a city affected by a mass shooting. four trips last year alone. by our count he's made at least nine of these trips over the course of the presidency and the white house says he is deeply, personally affected. who wouldn't be? by experiencing the grief these families are experiencing up close. one thing we hear from the president off times in his speeches and remarks is the white house, the government, the administration will be behind you, will be behind the community of orlando or whatever community it may be even after the tv cameras leave, but the question, of course, on everyone's mind in washington is what will happen? what happens next? will there actually be any new gun control legislation, and so that is what we will be watching in the coming weeks and days after this visit. carol? >> all right. athena jones reporting live from the white house. thank you so much. with me now is an orlando shooting survivors, carlos
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rosar rosario. thank you for being with me. >> thank you for having me. >> the president and the vice president will be making their way to orlando. they will be meeting with family members and survivors. is that helpful? >> it's beyond helpful. it shows there was a movement that helped to get him to come here. it's such an honor for him as a president of the united states to acknowledge the lgbt community as people and not just a category. it's a great feeling that i guess someone is listening. >> take me back to that night. where were you inside pulse nightclub when the shooting broke out? >> yeah. i was actually in the main bar. i was going to order my last drink. they were taking too long so i was like let me just go outside. as i was walking outside and i was going to repeat my order to the bartender, that's when everything started. it was so many shootings right
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after another. like it sounded like it never would stop. thank god i was one of the lucky ones. there was an exit there that was wide open and people were just flying through it and there were so many people going through it you kind of have to look and see when it's your turn to go through, and at that time that's when i went through and i made it out, thank god. >> before you did though, there were a few people who were hit by gunfire. >> yes. >> one young woman in particular. she was shot in the hand. >> yes. >> and you helped her out that night. what did you do? >> i was -- her name is kalisha. she's an amazing girl. she was shot on her forearm and she was so in shock, she wasn't even care being her injury. she just wanted to talk to her mom at that point, but me thinking about her mom, i think her mom would have wanted me to help her and stabilize her wounds first before calling her. so that's what i did. i tried my best to hold pressure on her hand. there was four other people around consoling her and talking to her and helping me.
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she made a full recovery. >> she used your cell phone to call her mom, right? >> yes. >> and you listened to that conversation and grew quite emotional. >> very emotional. the whole time they were having a conversation, it was just tears coming down my face because it's like this mother is like begging me and begging her to stay alive, like to survive. that she wants to see us. she wishes she could be there and she couldn't. it gives you a little heartache. >> what did you say to the mom? >> i first when i called, a mother's instinct is always correct the first time. i picked up my phone and i called her, and i was like, hi, my name is carlos. i know you don't know me. she's like what's going on? what happened? and that's when i processed that her daughter had been shot in the arm and that i am currently with her and that's when i passed the phone to her and they had a conversation. >> that's just wonderful. we're standing down the street from the nightclub.
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>> yeah. this is down the street because they cleared that area. >> is it kind of surreal to you to be standing here? the nightclub is down there, in light of what happened just a couple days ago? >> the first couple of days i think i was so on an adrenaline rush i really didn't understand it, but i think it hit me yesterday where i was sitting at home and my nephew came up to me and he sat on my lap, and i was like i could have not been here for you, you know? so it set in a lot of emotions i think now recently. it's starting to turn real for me. >> do you pay attention at all to who this shooter was and why he did it? >> unfortunately, i do not. i was too far outside. it was -- >> i mean, news reports right now detailing, you know, who he was. do you care who he was at all? >> i don't. i really don't care. i care because i want the families to see what it was, but to explain the reasoning of him and how he became how he is now,
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it doesn't matter. i think what should be talked about are the lives and what needs to happen and what needs to keep moving forward, what's the plan now from now on. >> thank you so much for stopping by, carlos. and thanks, you know, for helping that young girl and, of course, that mother. i'm sure they both appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> i'll be right back. it's how i try to live... how i stay active. so i need nutrition... that won't weigh me down. for the nutrition you want without the calories you don't... try boost® 100 calories. each delicious snack size drink gives you... 25 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. and it's available in two new flavors, vanilla caramel and double chocolate fudge. i'm not about to swim in the slow lane.
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meet with family members and survivors of the attack at the pulse nightclub. that will happen around 12:30 eastern time. newtown, charleston, san bernardino, a grim list of cities all too familiar with pain, with the pain orlando is feeling right now. a year ago tomorrow it was charleston reeling. nine african-americans shot to death inside their church emmanuela me. the church's new pastor, the reverend clark took part in a wreath laying sceremony yesterday. afterwards i had a chance to talk to her about her message to the people of orlando. >> we need to deal with it while we have the awareness. we tend to just say, well, we'll deal with it tomorrow or soon or next week or whatever, and then we forget about it. for us in charleston, the spirit of forgiveness is still there. what most people don't understand is that forgiveness
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does not negate the other emotions such as anger or rage. it simply means that in order for us to wake up every morning, to live through the day, we do not need the burden of unforgiveness. >> you know, we're in the middle of a political campaign, and people are trying to find someone to blame. >> maybe we're all responsible in some ways, some shape or form. if we don't go to the polls and vote, if we look at it both individually and collectively, i believe we'll find that we all have a piece of the puzzle. >> many people in this country blame isis. they don't blame gun control or lack of gun control, right? they blame religious extremism. >> well, if i just pointed out the things i don't like or the things i don't agree with, then i could use that as my excuse or
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my point of identity as to what's wrong. what i believe is it's a shared responsibility. i believe that we must deal with gun reform. we have to deal with that. it's nothing wrong with having the right to bear arms. i think we should, but i also think that we ought to make sure that those who bear arms, that they're qualified to do so. >> donald trump did break with the nra. he said that if you're on the terror watch list, you shouldn't have a gun. is that a step in the right direction? >> i believe so. i believe if you can't fly on an airplane, i don't believe you should have a gun because there's a reason why you can't fly. >> do you see parallels between what happened in charleston and what's happened here in orlando? >> i say to the people here in
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great respect for guns. we knew that they were not toys. we knew that where they were, we were not supposed to go there. and i think we just need to draw some lines. we need to have some parameters. it's called gun control. >> think it will happen? >> it has to happen. if we are to leave a legacy to the next generation and future generations, we've got to get it right, and the time is now. because enough is enough. >> as i mentioned, tomorrow marks the first anniversary of the shooting during a south carolina bible study. nine people killed, including the church's pastor. tomorrow we'll have more of my interview with the rev reerend clark about how parishioners are doing today.
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a heartbreaking end to one family's nightmare. the body of that toddler snatched by an alligator has been found. his body had only a few puncture wounds. the search is still on for the alligator that killed the boy. victor blackwell is live in orlando along with me to tell us more about that. good morning, victor. >> reporter: carol, good morning to you. we know that the beaches across walt disney world resorts will remain closed until further notice and resort managers are now assessing and reassessing safety measures at the lakes and lagoons and beaches across the property. they're working to determine whether those signs liked no swimming sign at the seven seas lagoon are sufficient. we also know that the president or rather ceo of walt disney company bob iger contacted the boy's family, the family of that 2-year-old, lane graves, and we also know florida fish and wildlife have confirmed they will find that gator that killed him. carol? >> victor blackwell reporting live. thanks so much.
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i'm john berman live in orlando. kate is off today. we have a lot going on here on the ground in orlando and in the investigation. president obama and vice president joe biden, they are due to arrive here shortly. they will meet with the families of those murdered at the pulse nightclub, also with survivors and first responders, many of whom work here at the orlando regional medical center right behind me. in the investigation we do have brand new information, information that the shooter suggested he wanted to commit mass murder as far back as elementary school. a
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