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ones in the deadliest mass shooting in american history. we will hear from some of the family members and their loved ones, not just how they died, but how they lived and what made them special. in a moment, an exclusive interview from one of the heroes. a police officer that saved multiple lives that terrible night almost as soon as he got there, ended up rushing in with other officers. today he was reunited with one of the men he saved. we begin with the latest in the investigation. learning more about the shooter's actions during the massacre from text messages he sent his wife while it was going on in the midst of killing. cnn national correspondent jim sciutto joins us. >> reporter: in addition to phone calls made from 911 to the television station, in addition to facebook postings making more threats and searching for coverage and conversation about the shooting, he was also in phone touch with his wife. she tried to call him a number of times, he didn't pick up, during the rampage. >> he tried to cal him? >> she tried to call him, but he
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responded in techs messages, one to say i love you and two to say the shooting is going on, i'm the shooter. communicate to one more person what he was doing. >> he clearly was desperate for attention, for news coverage and anything, one of the reasons we continue to not use the person's name. you don't want to reward them this way. clearly wants to extend time as all active shooters do, killing time and attention time. >> no question. looking for the attention he was getting, making searches on facebook to make sure people were talking about it, calling a television station. >> more about the president's visit today. >> reporter: setting politics aside a moment, we're into gun control debate far, but for the community which as you know well is still in mourning, it was about presence. his initial step was to meet with victims and people from around here. we saw that and reaction to him, the signs you saw by the side of
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the road, people that turned out. it was about presence. the community is still in mourning. that's what most people took away from it today. >> funerals today, more in the days ahead. difficult days. jim sciutto. thank you very much. we want to bring a story of hope amidst all of this, one of survival and heroism. want you to meet a police officer, omar delgado who pulled several people from the nightclub. today he met with one of the people whose lives he helped saved. i spoke with the officer earlier today, a huge privilege. this is an exclusive interview. when did you first find out what was going on in the club? >> we actually got an alert, a tone and my dispatcher stated that orlando pd had a bad emergency, police talk, signal 43, where they need help. everybody goes. >> you arrive on scene. what happened then? >> when i arrived on scene i saw an opd officer off to the right,
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standing behind like a light box or so, taking cover. and i approached, said what do we have. active shooter, still inside the building, and it was maybe seconds later we hear more gunshots. >> you could hear them from outside. >> from outside, yes. i don't know what happened, but i followed them, it was three of us. we jetted right inside. >> that's interesting. there wasn't a lot of time outside, it was just you heard shots, screams, start to go in. >> right. when shots are coming out, well, when i arrived i pretty much thought i would be outside, perimeter spot, it would be over and done with by the time i got there, and no, it was the full force. >> what happened then? >> what i noticed was it was kind of dark, you know, had this disco lights still on and i just began yelling hey, guys, come on out, come on out, we got you, we
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got you. and unfortunately it took a minute, realized that they weren't faking, they couldn't get up. >> and there's people, you saw people -- >> there were a lot of bodies all over on the floor. >> what's your role then. then what happened? >> i had my flashlight, we looked around, somebody yelled out this person is moving, so i remember couple of the officers behind me ran up and grabbed somebody. another person i saw was moving so i went and another officer grabbed him. pulled three or four people out. with all of the chaos, couldn't see faces, you know, and the few faces i saw, they were covered in blood, i couldn't tell who it was. >> important to remember, too, this is not a secure scene at this point. there's still an active shooter inside that structure. i assume at that point he was in
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the bathroom. >> yes, he was definitely inside the building. i remember when we grabbed the second or third person and started pulling them out, we heard like a burst of gunshots. >> other officers are focused on keeping this person contained in an area which allows you time to get people out. >> i can't tell you how many officers were inside and deputies but i know there were some with long guns, i know they were focusing in front, if it was a door or what not, they were focusing on that. so we knew we had some type of protection, some cover when we were able to pull most of the bodies out. >> in the end do you know how many people you were able to pull out? >> i personally pulled out three, maybe four, with the help of the other officers, but i'm glad angel, met him today, was one of the survivors.
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i wish i knew if the other three made it, i just don't know because i don't know who they were. >> what was it like to see him today? >> oh, my god, it was amazing. it was a feeling that you can't describe, can't put in words, knowing that you helped save someone. you know, people try to save people all the time. but in that certain situation it was unreal. he grabbed me, hugged me. hugged me four, five times and thanked me. i can't tell you how many times he thanked me. i told him i'm glad you're alive, i'm glad we were able to help you get back to your family because that's important. i met his sisters. they were at the hospital, his nissan his nephew and they were all so grateful. kind of hits you. like i said, i'm so glad at least he made it. i was able to be aware of it. i didn't know, i didn't watch
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the news, co-worker called me, said something about the guy you helped drag out was getting cut by glass, he is on the news. for the first time i turned the tv on and saw him and for his press conference. amazing. >> on a personal level how do you deal with the things you saw? >> it's rough. you know, everyone calls me, says hey, how you doing, commenting, saying i am fine, i am okay. when i sit in the room by myself, you know, it is difficult closing your eyes. you got flashbacks. people say they'll eventually go away. waiting for that to happen because the mind is still going 100 miles per hour. start to go slow down, but it's -- >> you still see the images. >> yeah. it was pretty bad. like i said, difficulty sleeping, closing your eyes, and
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knowing those people went through what they went through. there was a lady, brenda lee, she had the same color hair you did. she was not too far from me. >> in the club. >> in the club. and the hair is standing out because that's one of the things that drew my attention to her. she had the same color hair you did. very short. wasn't until recently i was able to put the name. >> she was one of the people didn't make it. >> yeah. she was one of the people didn't make it. i was in rwanda during the genocide and to see dozens and dozens of people, it is images stay in your mind. i mean, to not know who the people are is, i don't know if it helps or if it makes it harder. >> you know, i guess it sort of kind of helps because you know
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it is a person, to a degree. it doesn't really effect you if you knew it was a loved one or somebody you knew that kind of really hits you, but knowing it was still a human being and knowing that the phones were ringing and nobody was able to pick up. >> you could hear people's phones. >> people's phones were ringing all over the place. to this day i can't hear an iphone ring, one was so close to me, kept constantly ringing, constantly ringing. i got home, those people are never going to answer that phone again. it was little things like that make you put things in perspective. we can't take things for granted. >> thank you. officer delgado, one of many police officers that was there that night that responded that night. he doesn't want attention, he doesn't want credit. he's just part of a team, he kept pointing out to us.
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an extraordinary team it was. president obama had a lot to say after he met with grieving families. we'll have that ahead. and right after the massacre, a call went out for help for people to donate blood. some gay men were surprised they were turned away, but that's nothing new. dr. sanjay gupta looks at the fda ban on gay men giving blood when we continue. ou had to seek. nope, even easier than that. more like taking a left on that street where you usually take a right that wasn't so hard. and if finding that paint made you and your walls beam with pride, is it still paint? benjamin moore. paint like no other. find one of our 5,000 authorized retailers near you. ♪ cricket knows the play that'll make you celebrate. switch to cricket and get the samsung galaxy amp 2 for $19.99 or the samsung galaxy amp prime for $49.99.
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president obama met with family members grieving loved ones killed in a mass shooting. doesn't get any easier. here is what he said after the meeting today. >> as you might imagine, their grief is beyond description. through their pain and through their tears they told us about the joy that their loved ones had brought to their lives, talked about their sons or their daughters. so many young people in their 20s and 30s. so many students who were focused on the future. one young woman was just 18 years old. these families could be our families. in fact, they are our family, they're part of the american family. and today the vice president and i told them on behalf of the american people that our hearts are broken, too and that we
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stand with you. and that we are here for you. that we are remembering those who you loved so deeply. this debate needs to change. it's outgrown the old political stalemate. the notion that the answer to this tragedy would be to make sure that more people in a nightclub are similarly armed to the killer defies common sense. those who defend easy accessibility of assault weapons should meet families, explain why that makes sense. >> in the last hour, i spoke with christine, she has shown incredible grace, warmth, strength under tragic circumstances. her son christopher was killed at pulse nightclub, just 32.
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his boyfriend, juan ger era was also killed, he was 22. deeply in love, spoke of getting married one day. we were so moved by what they had to say, wanted to play some of that interview this hour. >> thank you for being with us. >> he apologize for lack of progress and so did the vice president. >> the boyfriend that's come down to be with you, not brandon. >> said he had an assault ban
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bill that either failed or had passed and then got repealed. so it's there. it's there. the ability to ban assault weapons is there. and i hear people say well, cars kill people, we don't ban cars. not ridiculous, knives kill people, but they have other purposes. we don't have a purpose for an assault weapon except for at war. now are we at war? are we willing to let our children be massacred? is that the war that we're fighting? is it between some of our citizens and the rest of our citizens, the select few get to decide they're at war with the rest of us? incognito nonetheless?
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>> i like that he didn't make it political. he didn't talk to us about politics. he didn't mention the shooter's name. i really appreciated that. and for what it was today, he was for us. it was him saying i'm tired of having the same conversation, i'm just as tired as you are about having the same conversation about why do we continue to let children and brothers and sisters die in these horrible tragedies and brush it off, lasts a week in the news cycle, then it is gone. fight for something two days, then we're over it. that's what he was apologizing for. listen, i'm trying, i'm really trying but here's where we are. we continue to allow this legislation to just sit there or collect dust and we do no service to anyone in these tragedies. >> can you tell me about christopher? >> yeah, he was well, my best friend in the world. >> how long had you known each other?
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>> known each other a few years now and we just instantly connected. i mean, he was always there for everything, for a laugh, for going out, the times when i needed somebody on my side. so that's my what i decided to carry on, a legacy of love and compassion for other people. i don't spend time thinking about the shooter. i spend time reminding those around me and in america that might be dealing with similar things that i love them and that's it. >> i get so many e-mails from friends and family, texts from people i don't know about you when you were on the other night and about your strength and your ability to be standing here, to be upright, to be talking about your son. what do the next couple days hold for you? >> i have my son's viewing at the funeral home. >> viewing is tomorrow? >> tomorrow.
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then the funeral mass is saturday. so today was an emotional day being at juan's funeral as well after visiting with the president was emotional. >> and juan was buried today? >> the funeral. >> the funeral was today. >> the funeral for him was today. >> i can't imagine what that was like. >> you know it is funny about juan though, we were talking the other day about how because my son christopher was always going to be a little antsy, wasn't sure, he went ahead and put in for his illinois license. he took the exam and did the steps to put in for his illinois mental health counselor license and then -- and i said you know i'm going to follow you to chicago, but then he met juan and he started talking about you
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know, mom, i'm staying in orlando. i'm just going to stay here. so that's when you knew. >> they were so drawn together right away. >> yes. >> that's when you knew it was -- so his mom and i, even though she speaks only spanish, but through their relatives that speak both languages we've been talking about something that would unite juan and christopher. right now, she's protective, she wants every piece of juan. at some point we might get together and she would be willing to take part of his ashes and combine them with christopher's, do something. >> so they can be together. >> together forever. that's what they always wanted. that's what we want for them, too. >> i hope it happens. >> partners in eternity now. >> thank you. >> thank you, my dear.
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53 people were wounded in the pulse shooting. the gunshot wounds were the kind you see in war zones. blood banks in orlando put out a desperate call for donors, so many lined up to give blood. it was incredible to see. gay and bisexual men were turned away, which renewed calls for what people call a stigma. >> reporter: giving blood after a tragedy is not only necessary but is a symbol of resilience, a way for grief to be channeled into action. >> we jumped in the car, went and got our friend justin and jordan, ran to a blood bank.
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they said we were in crisis, didn't have enough blood. >> you want to go help. that morning you find out that you can't donate blood. >> there's a ban on men, gay men, giving blood. it was one of those shocks to the system that day. >> according to the fda which overseas the safety of the blood supply, men that had sex with men, even protected sex, can't donate. >> i have had regular tests, i know i am hiv negative person, i felt like why couldn't i give blood. why couldn't they screen it. >> it is a good question. fact is, all blood, regardless of the donor is screened for things including hepatitis b, c, and hiv. i decided to go to the one blood blood bank. >> blood donation is one of those things, i don't know what
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to do. this is something i can do. maybe i can help. but there's something on the form that prevents certain populations of people from donating. talk about that. what is this, what are the criteria and restrictions? >> well, every blood center is required to follow rules and gietd lines handed down by the food and drug administration. we don't make the rules, we play by them. we have to follow them. and when it comes to the specific questions on there that the food and drug administration has on the form, and if somebody checks yes or no to certain answers, maybe it is deferred at that time. >> here's the fda questionnaire. question 19. male donors. in the past 12 months have you had sexual contact with another male. >> if one of the donors says susan, why can't i donate, what do you say? >> i say we have to follow rules from the fda. i feel for them, believe me. we all do. we know people want to do the
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right thing, want to come out and donate. >> the fda says it is a matter of risk. it is a contentious issue in the government, the white house, and among scientists. >> the policy prevents a lot of hiv negative gay men, vast majority of us are hiv negative, prevents us being able to donate and contribute to emergency preparedness and in this case to help people shot. >> it is a policy that may though longer make sense in the wake of advancing science and tremendous need. >> it is a matter of more like 100 to 200 units opposed to a few units at some hospitals. we had one patient went through almost 200 units of blood in the first 24 hours. >> fortunately there was enough good will to keep up with the demand for blood. but the inability of people like scott to donate added insult to injury. >> i think the world would be you feel discriminated, right,
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you go down there, you're crying, all our friends are coming together, we just want to help. then to be told you couldn't because again it is the same thing we felt for the last few days, just because we love each other, just because we care for each other, and we can't do this. and it is infuriating. it makes us want to stand up and scream from the mountain tops, like why is our blood not good enough. >> and dr. sanjay gupta joins us. i understand the initial rules, in the awful days, the height of the epidemic. but there's testing now, straight people who had sex in the last 12 months can give all the blood they want. >> the original rules were a lifetime ban, and in december last year, not that long ago said they're going to make it 12 months. it doesn't follow logic. >> is it tested? >> it is tested regardless of
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the donor. it doesn't make a lot of sense. and i'm point out after a tragedy like this happens, a lot of people give blood, they had enough blood at a place like this to take care of the tremendous need, but that's not typical. typically not enough people give blood. only 10% donate at any given time. this can be a significant deal. >> is this something the fda, they changed that policy to make it 12 months, now they can give blood. from a medical standpoint, doesn't make sense. >> it doesn't make sense. i think you heard from the scientist there and hearing from people at the broad institute in massachusetts. i think science is going to drive this. it is kind of remarkable, the fda is a pretty conservative institution. >> even if somebody knows they're hiv positive and takes medicine every day, chance of them transmitting that virus to
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somebody else is almost nonexist tent. shows couples, somebody is positive, as long as they take medicine as they should every day, haven't been examples of them transmitting the virus. >> i don't think there's a case where it transmitted that way. science hasn't followed this particular thing. this is more of a cultural hangover from the '80s and early '90s. i think it is changing. hearing from politicians in massachusetts and a lot of scientists, and again there's tremendous need for blood donation and tremendous advance in science. >> that's the bottom line. not that there's so much blood that this wouldn't help matters. >> that's right. one of the things that came up with scott was in the interim, i think the policy will ultimately change, but in the interim, convincing other people to donate. i am o negative. >> in an emergency, they don't fully test it? >> they fully test blood that's donated. let me point out this tragedy
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happened sunday. where did blood come from that helped people sunday, wasn't donors from sunday, it was donors from friday. people have to be donating continuously. you don't know when a tremendous need for blood might occur or when a tragedy like this might occur. you have to have blood banks continuously replenished. much more ahead, a dire warning from the cia director. important news to tell you about. why he said we could see more attacks like in orlando. the verizon win-win-win event is back with the iphone and ipad. win number one: you get america's largest, most reliable, most consistently fast 4g lte network. win number two? we'll pay up to $650 when you switch and trade in your phone. and the third win? buy an iphone on the best network... ...and we'll give you $300 off any ipad. why settle? you can have it all at the win-win-win event. at verizon stores and vzw.com
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the orlando attack was not directly connected to isis but the head of the cia said today isis wants to encourage more. >> as we have seen in orlando, san bernardino and elsewhere, isil is attempting to inspire attacks by sympathizers who have no direct links to the group. >> reporter: in blunt language, john brennan warned isis is work to go attack the west any way it can. >> they have a large cod ray of fighters that can serve as operatives for attacks in the west. and they're probably finding ways to infiltrate operatives into t west, smuggling routes and legitimate methods of travel. >> reporter: astonishing assessment. >> unfortunately despite progress against isil on the battlefield, efforts haven't reduced the group's terrorism capability and reach. >> reporter: brennan called them resilient, adapting to efforts to stop it. >> it will probably rely on guerrilla tactics and outside the territory that it currently holds. >> reporter: the republican chairman of the senate intelligence committee calling for more action. >> isil's global battlefield includes the united states and
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we cannot stand idly by. >> reporter: after thousands of air strikes, and loss of territory, isis maintains key advantages. >> the group would have to suffer heavy losses on territory, man power and money for its capacity to decline significantly. >> reporter: they estimate tens of millions through intimidation and oil sales. and the spread of isis across the world is ensuring its capacity for conducting more attacks. numbers far exceeding al qaeda. in iraq and syria between 18 and 22,000 down from as many as 33,000 last year. in libya, its most dangerous affiliate, 5,000 to 8,000 operatives. in egypt and sinai peninsula, perhaps up to a thousand. >> there are hardcore fighters, adhere ants, specialists,
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facilitators and others. numbers are significant. >> reporter: barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> joining me assistant secretary for homeland security, julia kiem and phil mudd, senior official at the cia and fbi. the idea that isis is trying to smuggle operatives into america via europe from places like syria, realistically what can be done? as i said to senator feinstein, he was on lesbos months ago, you find ripped up passports, destroying old identities, hoping to adopt new identities. a lot are law abiding citizens that want to start a new life. how can you vet them? >> there's some, you can do working with the turks,
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jordanians, trying to prevent crossing borders, trying to improve passport protection, looking at immigrants. whether we look at orlando or immigrants in europe, until you stop the core of the organization in syria and iraq, you're not going to stop the cancer from spreading. we separate the conversation how to protect america from home groans from the conversation about whether to deploy american special forces, for example, in syria and iraq. you can't separate the two questions until you kill the head of the snake, the ideology will perpetuate itself. we have to keep the two questions together. how do we deploy overseas and how do you use forces to protect ourselves in the united states. >> juliet, you see in barbara's report, numbers dropped by a third over the last year or so in terms of on the battlefield, killed and gone, and yet seems
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like as battlefield losses mount, they're reemphasizing sending people for jihad across the globe. >> that's exactly right. isis has been successful for three reasons, territory, money, ability to get money, steal money, tax people, manpower. you have to get all three. territory and money we have been somewhat successful. manpower is difficult. people are getting inspired by this stuff. they don't even have to be trained by them. and that gets to the second part of brennan's testimony, isis is also much more resilient than we first imagined and is now adapting what it views as success. a couple years ago, two years ago, not that long ago they thought success was territorial gains. they define it as paris, brussels, and take credit for things they didn't know about, like what we saw in florida this
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week. >> also, phil, you look at orlando, san bernardino, these are people who were both american born citizens and may or may not have had actual contact with isis central or any isis affiliate. does it matter if isis themselves sends people over if there's enough people here willing to take up the banner whether or not they know much about what isis is in reality? >> anderson, it is a critical point lost in the past four, five days since attacks early sunday. al qaeda was an ideology, an organization, inspired people to believe they had to fight the americans and force americans to leave from places like saudi arabia. in my judgment, isis has become an excuse, someone that's angry about a gay club, someone that's angry, attacks in tunisia on tourist sites, in paris,
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brussels, these individuals never met an isis member have a problem, they have a problem with western culture, might have a personal problem. they're looking for an excuse to conduct an operation. they fight isis as their excuse to say i'm concerned, angry. isis tells me my attack will be legitimate. we are seeing fundamental change in the war on terror, not a fight against al qaeda ideology, a fight against an organization like isis that just gives people an excuse to do what they want to do, which is what we saw in orlando. >> appreciate you being with us. just ahead, a community still hurting deeply, also holding each other close, not giving in to fear. how one victim's brother memorialized his sister last night. whether it's big... or small. first to go. or best for last. sweet. or not so sweet.
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nice rip, robbie. ♪ raaah! when you bundle home and auto insurance through progressive, you get more than just a big discount. i'm gonna need you to leave. you get relentless protection. [ baseball bat cracks ] well, the strength and the love we have seen in the orlando's worst hour has been humbling, and frankly a privilege to beer hoo. and day by day and step by step, the people here are helping others get through on what has been unspeakable days, and to hold on to love, and love wins. that is what we keep hearing and those who have died would want. amanda alveir had her snapchat
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video caught in the club, and last night there was an event organized by her brother. gar the ri tuckm gary tuchman takes a look. >> reporter: amanda's brother is honoring his sister in a unexpected way. ♪ >> reporter: coincidentally, brian works at another gay club where he spins tunes as karaoke jockey, and this night is designated as a memorial for the pulse victims and fund-raiser for the family as they are set to bury amanda. >> i want to show that nothing is is going to be keeping us from getting together and having
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a great time. ♪ what's going on >> reporter: the club was packed. >> we know the community, and we are part of that community. and when one of us is attacked, we are all attacked. >> but it is so great to see both of you. i really love you. >> reporter: people at the club both gay and straight have said that the outside community has brightened the spirits. >> there is a self-empowerment that the lgbt community has created, but we are finally getting the backbone and the allies out that are coming out of the woodworks to support us. >> reporter: the atmosphere is the same, and the drins are the same, and the music is the same, but so much else is profoundly changing the club and clubs like it in the orlando area. there is an element of anxiety that was not present before last weekend. brian alvear says there are plains clothed officers inside. >> the young kids are scared and
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the older individuals who are gay have dealt with not this, but the trepidations that come with being gay and out in a straight society. >> reporter: it is on brian alvear's mind, too. >> my mother was frightened about me doing this tonight, and i said that i won't let anyone and anyone's actions dictate my life, because i don't feel like that is what my sister would have wanted, because she was so stubborn and you know what, no. the if you want to spread some hate, and be afraid, then he is winnin winning. >> reporter: and indeed, while there is concern here, we didn't find anyone who said that it will change what they do or what they believe in. >> i am standing here, and this is an act of defiance. like, you are not going to stop me from doing what i do norma y normally, and the people coming in behind me showing love, and i
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love every single one of them. >> gary joining me now along with terry de carlo dreker tofr lgbt center in central florida, and i know that you have not gotten any sleep. >> probably six hours in the last four days. >> well, you have been helping an awful lot of people. and what do you want people to know about what is happening here, and how the community is standing up? >> this community is a strong community, and this has really ral lid, this community, and it is not only lgbt, but nonlgbt or the people standing on the side. >> and it is bringing people together. >> yes, they are standing in the street, and mad, too, and this is our town and city, and the outpouring, and i now have 40,000 cases of water at the cent center. the center looks like a walmart. >> you have had people handing out waters to the folks on the streets. >> we take to the police stations and the firehouses and the press camps, and to the hospitals and where the families r and take them food to fill the
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refrigerator and anything that they need. >> and maybe some people who are not here, and i have heard are from a lot of friends of mine, gay people around the country who, you know, they have been fear nfl a way. i found it one of the things they kept saying to them, i wish that you guys were here, because i don't feel fear here and i don't get a sense of fear from other people, but i get a sense of defiance, and a sense of wanting to hold your head up high and walk the streets and be out there? >> well, it is a little bit of both. because we have the people who are upset, and out there, and they are helping, and the trucks and the cars are pulling up to the center with all kinds of stuff, and then we have counselors, the grief counselors who are working right now, because we have people calling who are afraid to leave their the house with what happened last friday at plaza life, and then this past saturday and there are some people who are afraid to leave their house, and they are fearful to come out. so we are talking to our counselors, and we want to be there and say, you know, it is a safe place, and it can happen at any city, an unfortunately, it
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happened here. >> and gary, brian met with the president today? >> yes, brian met with the president with his parents, and he says it is comforting for all three of them. and brian told me that he felt bad for president obama that president obama has had to go to so many cities throughout the united states and do this very same thing. >> and what do you think, because does something change here going forward for the gay and the lesbian community here? >> well, like i said before, i think it has strengthened them, and i think that you will see a more resilient, and more people coming out and more -- i don't think that the fear is going to be taking over. i don't. >> i had a nurse from the hospital just come up to me in one of the commercial breaks, and she said, i just came out to my co-workers yesterday, because of this, and people want to be visible. >> you know, the thing that we are seeing at the scenter, too,
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and people coming in, and family members coming into the center, and the people who were in the club who say, i want to talk to the kouns olor, and i was this the club, and i don't want anybody to know that i was in the club, but i want to grab a case of water and put it in the truck or do something to help, and the community people are being resilient, and coming out, and some are really mad. >> yes, and thank you again for all that you have done. gary tuchman as well. we will be right back. [woodworker] i live in the fine details.
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