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thanks for joining us. see you tomorrow night. you can watch us any entitlement at cnn go. "ac 360" with anderson cooper starts right now. good evening, thanks for joining us tonight. the lives of as many as 5 million people are influx, thanks to a ruling of 8 people and the actions of one. the supreme court deadlocking 4-4 on president obama's immigration plan, letting an appeals court decision, blocking the stand. coming in the middle of a presidential campaign, could pack a political punch as well. president obama weighed in, so have hillary clinton and donald trump. so will the court watcher, jeffrey toobin. first, chief political correspondent dana bash with the decision and immediate impact. >> reporter: raw emotion outside the supreme court as those gathered learns of the 4-4
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deadlock that effectively ends president obama's executive order allowing some 5 million undocumented immigrants to stay. >> any time i could be deported. >> reporter: at the white house, the president made no attempt to hide his disappointment. >> we have to make a decision about whether we are a people who tolerate hypocrisy where the workers that pick our fruit, make our beds never have the chance to get right with the law. >> reporter: the gop house speaker called it a victory for the constitution. >> it is a win in our fight to restore separation of powers. presidents don't write laws, congress writes laws. >> reporter: the fact that the president tried to use executive authority to go around the gridlocked congress to allow some immigrants to stay illegally, republicans united in opposition, even those for immigration reform. >> i agree with the idea of immigration reform, it is something we need. i have been very outspoken about it, but it is something that has to be sustainable coming through
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the house of representatives. >> reporter: all of this makes the red hot 2016 political issue of immigration even hotter. donald trump tweeting that the court kept us safe from executive amnesty for now, but hillary clinton pledged to expand it, taking jobs from hispanic and african-american workers, and hillary clinton calling the decision a stark reminder of the harm donald trump would do to our families, our communities and our country. >> build that wall, build that wall. >> reporter: trump rode to victory in the gop primaries using opposition to immigration. to rally his base. >> who is paying for the wall? >> reporter: now clinton may get a political boost, thanks to angry hispanic voters eager to elect democrats in key swing states with large hispanic populations like florida, nevada, and colorado. a national poll last month showed hillary clinton at 62 and trump 23% with registered latino
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voters nationwide. a political divide that the president is clearly even more eager now to make wider. >> deporting 10 million people or building a wall with no taxpayer money is factually incorrect, it is not going to work. >> dana bash joins us, secretary clinton and donald trump are weighing in on the ruling. both will try to use it to their political advantage between now and november. >> no question. and obviously it is broader than the ruling, it is about the court itself. it puts front and center for voters how much power the next president is going to have in picking who will fill that empty ninth seat on the supreme court. the gop led senate don't show any sign of giving president obama's nominee a vote, so this immigration decision is just one example of how consequential the
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decisions are that hang in the balance until then, and these candidates, the political malpractice for both of them not to campaign hard on it, and i think same for voters not to take it into consideration. >> let's be joined by senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. those that aren't up to speed on the ruling, explain who this effects and what the implications are going forward. >> two groups of people. one group are the dreamers, they were kids, they were babies or very young when they were brought to this country illegally. they have grown up here, are effectively, have grown up as americans. the other group, larger group, the parents who came to this country illegally of american citizens. they came across the border unlawfully, had children while they were here who are american citizens. roughly 5 million of them all together. what president obama said was in this executive order, he said
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with these groups i am going to set up a system where if they go through an appropriate background check, they're not going to be deported under any circumstances, they will be free to stay here and they will be able to get their work papers, they will be able to start getting jobs on the books. what today's decision did, it didn't undo his ability to keep them from being deported, that's a core executive function. that whole plan to give them work papers, that's out the window. if any of the 5 million want to keep working in the united states, they have to do it off the books illegally. >> the ruling is just as much about presidential authority as well as specifics in the president's plan. >> that's right. that's what the core of it was about. what the lower court said was not that this, these citizens could never have these rights,
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they said if they are granted rights it has to be done through an act of congress, not through executive authority alone. other courts might disagree about that, but fifth circuit court of appeals, one of the most conservative in the country ruled against the president, and because this was a 4-4 decision, there's no decision from the supreme court. this is a one sentence order. but this law, the law of fifth circuit is now affirmed and there's no time for the president to try to go back and do this again. >> jeff, stick around for the conversation. want to bring in the panel, hillary clinton supporter, bill clinton adviser, and maria car donna, gloria borger, kayleigh mcenany, and tara setmayer. speaking both sides as we said are using this going forward.
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>> they are. hard to say now who would benefit the most from it. two things are important here. the obama legacy is on the line, immigration reform, and this movement he had on executive orders is a big part of his legacy and that's been defeated in the court. it will be a big issue in this campaign. the other one is it puts the supreme court front and center again. people now know the stakes. so the question is who benefits. it gives trump the opportunity to hit on his best issue, which is building the wall and immigration, what attracted people to his campaign. it gives hillary clinton an opportunity to consolidate voters in states like florida, nevada, colorado. >> richard, hillary clinton is saying this is or democrats say it is a prime example why you need a full supreme court. had justice antonin scalia been on the court, it wouldn't have been a tie. >> we don't know what the decision would be. he is not with us.
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i think the important thing to remember is that this was a procedural decision, not substantive on the merits. tied 4-4. lower court was affirmed. it has no presidential value. the supreme court didn't rule, they decided on a procedural issue not to rule. i agree with jeff and gloria it makes the issue, puts the issue of the supreme court front and center and shows why the congress should move, still move on the nomination of merit garland that president obama put forward. more importantly shows that if you're a voter who wants to send the country back 100 years in terms of judicial progress, if you want no women's right to choose, if you want no gay marriage, if you want unlimited campaign, corporate campaign contributions, you want to appoint judges donald trump says he will appoint and send the country back 100 years, the
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choice is clear. you can vote for trump but the stakes are very high. >> kayleigh, doesn't it make a good argument for trump who can say look, if you vote for hillary clinton, you vote for president obama's immigration policy which the court struck down. >> it makes a strong argument for donald trump. he can expand beyond immigration and get to the constitution. a lot of americans are frustrated with this president's view of executive power. he, himself, the president said 22 times i do not have the power by basically denying deportations to change the law. he said in that univision town hall, i cannot support deportations with executive order. to do so wouldn't comport with my role as president. you have this decision that came out, afirming what obama was saying all along. you had a federal judge appointed by obama this week strike down orders from the administration saying it
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exceeded the bounds of the constitution. it brings a whole new talking point to the campaign. >> maria? >> couple things. to clarify when he said words about he did not have the power, he talked about 11 to 12 million undocumented immigrants, he couldn't shield all of them. that continues to be the case. the executive action he put forward it not shield those. >> 5 million. >> when he said those words, he meant the whole lot of undocumented immigrants, number one. number two, i want to clarify something for viewers. this decision today does not impact the 2012 executive action he put forth on the dreamers. i want to make sure that is clear. moving forward this gives the democrats and hillary clinton a huge tool to continue to focus on the message that look, democrats are the ones that have the interest at heart of the latino community, and moreover, gives opportunity to explain to
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latinos and others, the whole court thing is an inside washington thing. this puts it in a very tangible manner how it effects people's lives. >> tara? >> i spent years on capitol hill. during that time we had the last major immigration debate in 2007 or so when the fence was passed. even in 2006 under the bush administration, there was issues with republicans and bush being very liberal on the immigration issue. this is something that has been going on for years, is not going to change tomorrow. the important part, though, is the fact that the presidential overreach and separation of powers issue is an important one. barack obama has abused this time and time again, not only on the issues kayleigh enumerated, but the national labor relations board, straight rebuke of his overreach and several other cases. looking forward, if you're allowed to say the hell with
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congress, we will write our own laws, it is okay when you like it, when you don't like it, you have to have balance. for people like me who are concerned about donald trump and some of the things he said that he is going to build a wall, he is going to make trade deals, he's going to do these things, that's concerning because we criticized president obama for being authoritarian and donald trump sounds like that, too. >> do you think they should go after trump as somebody that's anti-latino? >> what it does, for all that's been made over trump not uniting factions of the republican party, you see a clear unification between congressional republicans. this justifies what mitch mcconnell was saying about not confirming merit garland. this decision would be different. i think it has a positive impact on trump as gloria says, allows him to focus on an issue, creates a binary condition where
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you're for controlled legal immigration or amnesty. i read the decision by fifth circuit. it creates a class of people that he has given amnesty to because they have a child. >> weigh in, legally, jeffrey, anything you take issue with so far? >> it is true that the court has decided that the president exceeded his authority. but sometimes we talk about this in abstract. i did a piece for the new yorker where i spent time with the family in columbus, ohio. the family had immigrated illegally from mexico. the father ran a food truck more than 12 hours a way, the mother cleaned houses. two kids american citizens, one had cancer. the question is what happens to them. do they get thrown out of the country, parents get thrown out, kids have to stay -- united states should decide this question.
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those are real people. >> let me say that i think that it's interesting that both democrats and republicans seem content to let this election be formed around issues of immigration. democrats think we have the better argument. to say, suggest that donald trump supports legal immigration and president obama supports illegal immigration, he is the guy -- >> let him finish. >> he is the guy trying to build a wall, he is the try trying to bar an entire group of people because of their religion. >> let him respond. >> in 2004 president bush deported 200,000 people. we now deport double that under barack obama. it is selective outrage of the left that unites republicans. i am happy to point out that hypocrisy. >> you have two political parties at extreme opposite
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extremes. then you have another party that says the democrats that say no deportation, going further than president obama i would add. and this is going to once again given this ruling today, going to wind up in congress again. what are they going to do about it? >> let's take a break. a lot more to talk about the next two hours. donald trump is questioned on an attack line, see if he brings evidence to back it up. and the ads she unloaded on him, hillary clinton. his business trip in the middle of the campaign, big move to bring reluctant donors on board. later, a stand on gun control, taking a seat on the house floor. we will talk to one of the lawmakers that staged that as well as lawmakers that say it is about politics, not gun violence. men. 80% try to eat healthy, yet up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more.
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welcome back. breaking news, donald trump takes time off from the campaign reboot for a business trip to his golf property in scotland. earlier sat down with nbc news' lester holt who asked about a claim he made about hillary clinton in a speech yesterday. he asked for evidence. >> you also made the claim that her e-mail, personal e-mail server had been hacked, probably by foreign governments. >> you don't know that it hasn't been. >> suggesting that she would be compromised as president. what evidence do you have? >> first of all, she shouldn't
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have had a personal server, it is illegal. what she did is illegal. she might not be judged that way because we have a rigged system. what she did was illegal. >> any evidence it was hacked other than routine -- >> i think i read it and heard it. >> where. >> someone gave me that information. i will report back to you. >> whatever you may think about donald trump, secretary hillary clinton, the e-mail affair, investigators in hawaii were digging up evidence that president obama wasn't born there. never got back to us or anyone else on that. hillary clinton has, however, taken a shot at him online with a new ad slamming his scotland trip. more on that and the rest of the day in politics from phil mattingly. >> hillary clinton, and as you know, most people know, she's a world class liar. >> reporter: fresh off the most scathing attack on hillary clinton, the best fundraising stretch of his campaign, internal shakeup well received
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inside an increasingly uneasy party. >> yesterday's speech went a long ways to reigniting the members as well as the party faithful. yesterday's speech was very important making that pivot. >> reporter: donald trump is leaving the country, headed to scotland, not to meet with world leaders or burnish foreign policy credentials, instead for reopening of a golf course, his turnberry resort. in a 2014 interview with golf digest called it super trophy, one of the great pieces of art. an unorthodox move raising questions inside the gop. yet another sign this isn't a traditional campaign and trump is far from a traditional candidate. trump's trip coming as a new cnn orc poll finds nearly 70% of voters survey stay trump should step down atop the trump organization as he runs for president.
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be far from celebratory. residents angered by his bare knuckle business strategy protesting his visit, even flying mexican flags to mock his arrival. the clinton campaign also hitting trump ahead of the trip with a new web video tonight. for trump, the visit underscores an asset viewed by aides as central to the campaign, his business empire. >> i built an amazing business i love. >> reporter: it comes as his campaign tries to turn a corner, a weak fundraising report, raising more than $11 million since tuesday, according to campaign officials. trump's top campaign aide, paul manafort, mounting a detailed and organized delegate operation designed to undercut any efforts to oust trump at the convention. trump today floating the unorthodox possibility of naming his cabinet during the campaign. >> i would be inclined to do that.
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i don't think that's that unusual, that's been done before, hasn't it, hugh? >> i don't think we ever had a cabinet member named. there was a hint colin powell would be w's secretary of state. just a hint. >> did they wait until after the election? >> yes, yes. >> reporter: all as hillary clinton continues to mount attacks on trump's business resume. >> you might think that because he has spent his life as a businessman he would be better prepared to handle the economy. well, it turns out he's dangerous there, too. >> phil joins us. trump announced he would fully ex-continuing pusher the loan he made to his campaign. >> reporter: that means donald trump can no longer reimburse himself. he said throughout the campaign up to this point he was self funding, they were loans. had donald trump raised enough money to max that amount of
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loans, he was well within his rights to pay himself back. now he is not doing that, he is extinguishing the loans. the biggest donors made it clear if they were giving millions to support his efforts, they need assurances he will never use that money to pay himself back behind closed doors. crucial to negotiations over the joint fund raising agreement trump and the rnc reached. donald trump is now making good on the promise not to ever reimburse himself. >> back with the panel. first with what he said to lester holt, something in his speech, he doesn't know where he got it from, can't come up with evidence to back it up? >> the claims were not baseless. a romanian hacker claims he hacked her server, associated press reported june 8th that in 2011 hillary clinton was forced off her e-mails due to a hacking
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attack. associated press also reported they had to unplug the server at one point during the hacking attack. the same article said in 2014 the state department unclassified e-mail system was breached by hackers. there's a lot of evidence that somebody perhaps got into it. >> does it worry you that donald trump can't say that? >> doesn't worry me, he knows the conclusion, he doesn't need every detail. i am concerned about the grand vision for the country. >> i think as a presidential candidate that will be in charge of top secret information, national security information, details matter, and so if he is going to make the accusations, he should know where he got them from. can't say i got them from the shows. yes, there's merit to what he said, but unfortunately you look at it, go where did he get it from. i heard it from somewhere. that's not acceptable as a presidential candidate. you have to elevate the discussion. another incident with sidney blumenthal's e-mail being hacked, and he had e-mails with hillary clinton to her server
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which was another breach that came up as well. there is merit to that. >> the scotland trip, at this pivotal point in the campaign, all points of pivotal, but at a critical point he goes to scotland, does that concern you? >> no, this trip was announced couple days ago. this is one of his son's major projects, family business, son eric's major project. you go and support the kids. one of the best moments was on a cnn set where he had his whole family around them, portrayed themselves as a very united family. >> family town hall. >> the other thing, i find it ironic, call out selective outrage of the left, find it ironic that people on the democratic side are concerned someone spends time on a golf course. barack obama spent 270 days on the golf course, 10% of the days he was president on the golf course. >> he is a businessman.
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that's what brought him to the table in the first place. >> i think what it demonstrates, he is a businessman, with donald trump, his businesses will always come first, much the same way when that judge, when the federal judge threatened his business with that trump university lawsuit, he went after him. i think nothing, this proves that nothing will ever come between donald trump and a dollar and that he is self dealing. he said i'll run for president and make money on it. between reimbursement to himself and his family and the way, the biggest expenditure in the last campaign was on trump. >> there's a lot of presidents, bill clinton included, that didn't have foreign policy experience. george w. bush was a governor. just because he is going overseas, not meeting with world leaders, a lot of presidents didn't have that. >> they also didn't say they knew more about isis than
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generals did. it is what he says and where he says he gets his information, from the sunday shows, from the internet. just goes to the lack of seriousness even of his wanting to understand the intricacies of foreign policy. this trip should concern republican donors, my understanding is the campaign is paying for this when he has no infrastructure or message, he is just now starting to raise money. he is way behind on that. he has no strategy. >> i would think you would argue he should take more trips. >> by all means, i was going to end it by saying i condone this trip 100%. the other thing it does, as we start finding out what his business is in scotland, specifically with this golf resort, the way he conducted business is similar to the way he conducted businesses here and howl conduct the economy, which is he essentially rolls everybody, using the equivalent of eminent domain, a lot of
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protests are going to go on. neighbors in the resort hate him, don't want him there. i think all of that will continue to underscore the clinton message. >> this is his son's business. he is doing this, i think we could argue and you make a good point, this is not exactly what he ought to be doing while his campaign is in some disarray. i think the difference between donald trump and other candidates who as you point out didn't know about foreign policy is that bill clinton and george w. bush had well formed foreign policy positions, and let's put immigration aside, which they didn't change or take back or look at again in the middle of the campaign. for example, the question of the temporary ban on muslims which he said this is absolutely going to happen, then said maybe it was a suggestion. i think they have kind of well formed platforms and i think what we've seen with trump is that it keeps evolving. i know kayleigh would argue that
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might be a good thing, but if you are running for president, you might think maybe you ought to be meeting with the president of israel or other leaders. >> let's take another quick break. after vowing no bill, no break, the democrats and the sit-in. i talk to members on opposite sides of the debate about what, if anything, was accomplished and what happens next. . the fastest delivery guy in chicago. meet maximum strength mylanta®. like owen, it works fast.
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democrats vowed they wouldn't budge from the house floor until hell froze over. after 25 hours, they ended that sit-in. more than 170 democrats took part, led by john lewis, civil rights hero. overnight, paul ryan seized control long enough to muscle through an appropriations bill without debate. then declared the house adjourned national league after the fourth of july holiday. through the night, democrats gave speeches, one that made the most headlines by representative debbie dingell of michigan. >> lived in a house with a man
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that should not have had access to a gun. i know what it is like to see a gun pointed at you, and wonder if you are going to live. i know what it is like to hide in a closet and pray to god do not let anything happen to me. >> hear hear. >> hear hear. >> and we have never -- we don't talk about it, we don't want to say it happens in all kinds of households, and we still live in a society where we will let a convicted felon who was stalking somebody of domestic abuse still own a gun. >> representative debbie dingell joins me with republican representative shawn duffy of wisconsin. welcome to both of you. congresswoman, we heard an issue, very personal for you. i wonder this sit-in, how much did it accomplish, do you think? if all it did was draw attention to the issue, is that enough for you? >> no, it is not enough, but by drawing attention to it, having people talk about it one end of
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the country to another hopefully as members of congress of both parties go home, they'll talk to elected representatives how they want to see change. we know what polling shows, 92% of american people want background checks, 85% want no fly, no buy. what we are trying to do is not -- i was convinced this week that nothing would ever change, we would have the same old canned talking points and nobody would care, nothing would happen. today, the last 48 hours, a lot of attention was brought in the country. we're here talking about it tonight. >> congressman ryan said it undermined the house as an institution. >> the democrats took over and founders were rolling in their graves. my heart goes out to debbie and her story when she was a young girl. i was prosecutor for ten years, prosecuted those kinds of cases, guys like her father.
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what concerns me, anderson, the tragedy in orlando, about islamic radical terrorism, has been morphed into a greater gun debate democrats have been working on for ten years. they were talking only about guns. we need a holistic approach to keep america safe, what do we have to do in congress, how do you partner with the president to accomplish that safety for american citizens. but if you only talk about guns on the floor, not how to fix the fbi so they can have the tools and resources available to go after bad guys, or you have barack obama who refuses to use radical islamic terrorism or white washes the 911 transcript mateen made the night of the attack, these are problems and we are not putting our finger on what's wrong, who is inspiring these agents of that. >> congresswoman, is what happened in orlando in this debate just about islamic terrorism? >> for me it is two different
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things. and i share people's concerns about the no fly list and civil rights. i represent many of the muslims that are good americans, by the way. we have to be careful to not take paint brushes and tar and feather an entire religion. we did that in the history of the world only in the last century, and it is not the right thing to do. but what we're trying to say is let's have the discussion. please come to the table and have the discussion. that's what we're trying to do. >> let me ask about that, congressman duffy. one of your colleagues, jolly, introduced legislation he thinks is a good compromise, mandating the government to have a due process hearing if an individual is unable to purchase a firearm because of being on a no fly list. they're on the no fly list, turned down, have 30 days to have an actual hearing so their due process rights are addressed. do you see that as something you can get behind?
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there's a number of finer points to get through, but yes, as long as the government has burden to prove someone on the list should be on the list and you don't take guns from law abiding american citizens. we also, anderson, have to be careful. the fbi has said if you get this wrong, you can have would be terrorists try to buy a gun. if they're denied, they're being watched. if not denied, they're free to act without interference from the fbi. it takes time to work together. debbie last night said we have to get people out of the corner, come in the middle, have a conversation. taking over the house floor and only talking about gun control which they have been talking about for years doesn't bring people together. debbie and i could sit down and say how do you have a conversation getting guns away from terrorists. >> how do you resolve that issue that you raise that if a would be terrorist, somebody is on the list goes to buy a gun, realize they get rejected that they're
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being watched. how do you resolve that. >> we have to work with the fbi on that. those are finer points we have to get right. i don't know the answer tonight. there's a number of different avenues to get to to accomplish that goal. but if you have a mentality that says i'm going to use whether san bernardino or orlando to advance my gun control agenda, and this is only phase one of that agenda, it is hard to get by them if republicans. if you want to talk getting guns from terrorists, talk about barack obama getting as energetic talking about isis as when he talks about the nra. >> the congressman is saying you're using this tragedy and others for gun control agenda. >> you know, i disagree with that and i'm not a very complicated person, i respect the second amendment rights, but i know there are people in this country that have access to guns that shouldn't. i share your goal making sure terrorists don't have access to
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guns, which is why we have to get the list to be an accurate list. make sure convicted felons don't have access to guns. i want to work with you to get that. i think that everybody has been -- we're tired of these issues. we don't talk about what's happening every day, the kind of violence that we're sort of -- it is normal, when you look at chicago or baltimore or what's happening in homes every day with domestic abuse. i want to have the discussion. go ahead. >> i think, debbie, you and i could sit down and talk, you have to get beyond guns. it is a larger discussion. >> i agree. >> we have to protect people's rights. when we look at mental health, it is the government's burden to show there's a mental defect or disability. when someone is convicted of a crime, a felony, domestic abuse, there are ways someone that due process to take away rights. can't just have some unknowing board without any known
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criteria, without any way to get someone off, decide whether their second amendment rights are taken away. >> i agree. >> we have a lot of folks high profile that have been on the list, members of congress take a year to get off, if you're a guy in middle america, wisconsin, you can't get off the list. we can find common ground to work together to deal with terrorists and access to guns and also try to get a structure together to defeat isis and radical islamic terror and keep america safe. >> appreciate that. see if you get together. thank you very much. it was an extraordinary moment on the house floor with dramatic moments. full on brawls in other countries when lawmakers disagree. show you how violent things get in other places. market. a fire truck. even a marching band. and if i can get comfortable talking about this kiester, then you can get comfortable using preparation h. for any sort of discomfort in yours.
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and they're sending it into chaos. i don't think this should be a proud moment for democracy or for the people who staged these stunts. >> again as we said earlier, speaker ryan bypassed protocol when he pushed through the appropriations bill with no debate. as for chaos, let's get some perspective. rolling while leg is lating is not uncommon. last month, multiple fist fights broke out. they came to blows over a bill allowing some members of parliament, leading members of the opposition party, to be investigated for link to terrorism. those not directly involved flung bottles of water at opponents across the table. several lawmakers were reportedly injured. brawling in south korea national assembly is routine. members often lock doors a
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and barricade them with furniture before votes. their political opponents have to physically tear down the doors to enter. not an easy task. in 2011, a parliament opposed to free trade deal with the united states threw tear gas before the vote. the chamber was cleared as tear gas flooded the hauls. in 2012, parliament members attacked each other over a bill giving russian language equal stature to ukranian. and in 2015, they slugged out a deal. they were suspended for five sessions. later, ukraine's prime minister was dragged from the microphone by the opponent causing a
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massive fist fight. in taiwan, parliament notorious for fighting. tussles over issues from budget to ties to china to military hardware purchases. this one brings a helmet to protect himself from violence. in argentina in 2010, this legislator was unhappy with state of the budget talks. she glaers at an opposition member, nods in satisfaction as she walks away. many fights are considered public relations spectacles in their home countries. still, what's been described as chaos on the house floor of the u.s. seems tame by comparison. look around the world. just ahead, votes coming in in great britain on a question that could shake the entire global economy. should united kingdom leave the
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not guilty on all charges, the decision from a baltimore judge for the third police officer to go on trial in the death of freddie gray. the officer was the one that drove the van when he suffered spinal injuries, he faced the most serious charges. the judge said prosecutors didn't prove the case. miguel marquez has more. >> reporter: protests and anger over another full acquittal of a police officer connected to the death of freddie gray. above all, frustration that now possibly none of the six officers will be convicted of anything. not guilty on murder is you can kill this black guy and no one will be convicted for it. >> reporter: caesar good deep
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son, 16 year veteran, faced seven charges ranging from second degree murder to reckless endangerment, in a lengthy verdict from the bench, the judge said while mistakes may have been made, none of it amounted to criminal behavior. >> i'm disappointed and i think that the rules and the law needs to be changed. use of force, the police, bill of rights, everything is difficult because what the police did was actions but they're not criminal. >> while we agree with the verdict, we suggest mrs. mosby reconsider her malicious prosecution against the other officers. we are more than certain they, too, will be found to be without guilt. >> reporter: the prosecution claimed gray died from injuries sustained in a rough ride, but the judge ruled while everyone agrees gray was injured in the van, it was not clear to
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officers he was in distress until the last stop when medical attention was sought. >> we all know what a rough ride is and if you got in a van and then when you got off you're in critical condition, ouch. >> reporter: caesar goodson hugged his lawyers, shook hands with another officer previously acquitted. the question now, will all officers be acquitted or even tried? >> i think if ever there was a case where the prosecution threw the best they had at it was this case, the fact they didn't get conviction will force them to reassess what they do in the future. >> any reaction from the community where freddie gray lived? >> reporter: i think there's frustration this has happened, but certainly a resignation it was bound to happen. i remember asking when marilyn mosby brought the charges a year ago what they thought, they would smile and say nothing is going to change in baltimore,
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this is the way it is. they will not be brought to justice. the other side that we are hearing is people saying at least these charges have been brought. it has shined a light on the police department and their practices, and perhaps this is the beginning of change. >> miguel marquez. more on this in the next hour of 360. the u.s. supreme court delivering a huge blow to president obama's immigration plan. blocked his executive order. the president weighed in and so did hillary clinton and donald trump. the latest on that. release formulaith a rad for rapid relief of tough pain. look for advil film-coated in the white box! relief doesn't get any faster than this. advil.
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