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by voting to leave the european union, has the uk just been made great again? was brexit a victory for the trump world view? and what impact will it have on our economy and our election? plus, a former secret service agent spills the beans on his time posted outside bill clinton's oval office. but doesn't that violate his job description? and this tv anchor fired for a controversial facebook post files a lawsuit claiming she was fired because she's white. does she have a case?
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and there's a jury who's sure that stairway to heaven lawsuit, it wasn't gold, but did they hear the whole story? because you will. >> but first, did donald trump just win his first election? not here, but across the pond? the world is indeed flat, elections don't happen in a vacuum from world events and where brexit was motivated by anger toward immigration policy, concerns over trade and a desire for autonomy, the parallels between what just occurred in the uk and the debate here in america are unmistakable and consider the sentiments run so deep that voters were willing to disregard the so-called experts, former prime ministers, academics and institutions and the demographic divide in the uk election sure does sound similar to american voters. young versus old, college versus noncollege educated, so how might this play out here? joining me now, someone with
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unique insight, former british prime minister, tony blare. thank you so much for joining me. >> it's a pleasure, michael. >> where the forces of brexit include concerns over immigration, trade, concerns over central control, it sounds a great deal like our american election. >> yes, i think there are elements of this debate in the uk that are happening the world over, happening with you, happening in the rest of europe and they're where people feel this power of globalization changing the world around them, and those people who come forward with very tough and often simplistic popular solutions they gain traction on the political process. this is what's happened to us and we're going to now face the consequences of that decision. >> it seems as if this was a defeat for the intelligentsia in
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so far as you had foreign ministers, you had leaders of institutions all saying don't do this and a significant part of the electorate wanted to move forward and exit. >> one of the curious things about the course of the debate in the uk is that the word expert or those with experience became terms of abuse. i mean, the reason why the four living people that occupied the post of british prime minister were united in our view that britain should stay was because we were genuinely worried on the basis of our experience as prime ministers of the consequences of leaving. >> another parallel that i see are the demographics of this debate and a divide between the young and the old, the educated and the less so, the rural and the urban. to what do you attribute those sharp lines of division? >> there are real problems in our societies.
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now, there always have been, by the way, but there are particular problems following the financial crisis where people feel their incomes are flat lining, there are problems of people who feel marginized. globalization is changing the world around us and therefore, people who step forward and play to the anger that's aroused by these situations, they can get a lot of political traction and they can get it quickly. and we also have this other difference with today's political world, which is that the combination of a fragmented and quite po larized conventional media, combining with social media means that these insurgent movements get scale at speed and this is -- this is a new phenomena, but the real question is, what is the answer to the problem that globalization poses? because it poses problems in your country and my country and around europe and my opinion
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respectfully i would say, the answer is not to target immigrants. the answer is not isolate ourselves or shut down our borders. the answer is through education, through infrastructure, through creating the economy of the future, through trying to bring countries together, united in a common purpose in which all people can have the chance to benefit rather than divided so that people become against each other in a way that i think will ultimately corrode our society and probably not help our economy. >> your use of the world globalization reminds me of the comment that the world is flat. is it possible that the dialog of our american election, donald trump in particular, influenced in small way the outcome of the uk election? >> i'm not sure, but i think all our dialog in today's world influences -- you know, we all influence each other. there's a global debate going on
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and so yes, some of the elements going on in your debate are the same as your debate on brexit. i mean, one thing of course that will happen and this is something to watch very carefully in the united states, is that we've decided to engage in this -- this big leap or experiment might be a better way of putting it and over the days and weeks and months ahead, we will have some idea of what will actually happen as a result of this. >> thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. donald trump landed in scotland on friday morning on a previously planned trip to his golf course and he tweeted, just arrived in scotland. place is going wild over the view. they took their country back just like we will take america back, no games. here to discuss her candidate and recent events, trump's spokes person katrina pearson. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> i was surprised when he got
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off that helicopter on friday morning with the whole world watching and immediately he began to talk about the resort and not brexit. wasn't that a mistake? a missed opportunity to appear presidential? >> not at all. mr. trump is not a politician and doesn't take advantage of these types of situations. his sole purpose for being there was to support his son, his family. he did make remarks regarding the brexit. in fact he talked about it prior to going to scotland, but his sole intention of being there was to support his family. >> but the optics seems awfully unusual that he was touting the virtue of that course. i'd love to go over there and vacation. i just don't know that he advanced his cause in terms of getting people to support him for president at a critical moment in time because whether by coincidence or good planning on his part, the eyes of the world were on him. >> well, of course he did. he did mention that it was a really good thing that people took their country back. i mean, they are -- you can only
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expect the workers, the taxpayers of a nation to foot the bill for so long to their own personal detriment before they decide enough is enough. this absolutely supported his cause. he's supporting the exact same thing here at home. >> one of the things that came up was whether his assets should already be in a blind trust. i think we're an i customed to the notion that a candidate running for the candidacy is still out there doing business. isn't that a good issue? shouldn't the assets already be beyond his reach? >> well, no, not at all. when he becomes president he's already said he's going to put them in a trust and his family will run the business. you know, we look at the clinton foundation i think there's more questions about asked about that money, where it's coming from and why it's going to hillary clinton in the number of amounts that it's going to. we're talking about a golf course, not trade, not agreements from other countries, not uranium deals.
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mr. trump is still president and ceo of the organization. and the media would like to make a big deal about it. but the media also said this is going to go all the way through the convention. mr. trump is just getting started. >> i know the subject to which you refer. i've read clinton cash. i've hosted the author on this program, but relative to your candidate i guess what i'm saying is it seems as if he's using the world wide attention to sell product and still doing so. >> well, no, not at all. i mean, this is no different than a senator running for office and going back to washington, d.c. to cast a vote. it's their job. we wanted a businessman, many people want a businessman in the ring and we have one now. he's going to continue to run that business until he becomes president of the united states, and his family will take over. >> brexit seemed like an issue that he was unfamiliar with as recently as wednesday. let me show you what he had to
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say. >> i'm right in the middle of it. i'll be over there as the decision is coming -- you know, i don't think anybody should listen to me because i haven't really focused on it very much but my inclination would be to get out because you know, go it alone. it's a mess. >> so which is it? on friday he sounded like he was much more of an authority. on wednesday he says nobody should listen to me as to what i should say about brexit. >> it's mr. trump's instincts for a country to do what's best for its people and the best people to do that decision is the people. not the politicians that have made things so badly in the uk which is what he's talking about in the united states. globalism is only good for those who can create mass wealth off of it and those are the politicians and his instincts are to let the people decide. >> i wonder how sophisticated
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his knowledge is on these issues. let me give you another example. when asked about the declining value of the pound he answered the question the way i would as a tourist, i thought geez, maybe this is a good time to go to the uk because my dollar will go much further. here's what candidate trump said. >> if the pound goes down they're going to do more business. when the pound goes down, more people are coming here and the pound has gone down and let's see what the impact of that has, but i think places like scotland and england and different places in great britain, i think you're going to see a lot of activity. >> now, these folks are worried about the economy and he's saying well, my resort is going to be fine because tourists will be able to come over here and have their dollar go much farther. >> well, that's not actually what he said but what he did say was spoken like a true businessman.
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he looked at the silver lining. there's a lot of businesses that are going to benefit from more tourist activity and i think that's a good thing. the people of the uk decided look, we're going to have to renegotiate our trade contracts but we cut out the middleman. they've done the right thing for them because at the end of the day freedom and sovereignty to be removed from all the restrictions they've had on their businesses is going to be a good thing for the people. >> your record remains intact. you gave me not an inch. >> well, look, at the end of the day, this is about the people and you see people all over the world who are tired of being told what to do, how to do it, how much money you can make, what you can and can't eat, enough is enough and brexit is just the beginning. >> okay. thank you so much for being here. i appreciate it. >> great to be here. thank you. lots to talk about with our political panel.
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jonathan, we've talked already about donald trump's arrival in scotland and that which he discussed and that which he didn't discuss. let's talk about hillary. she issued a statement as soon as the brexit vote was tallied and what i noted is that she said nothing about immigration, didn't really comment on that which is driving all of this angst. doesn't she need to pivot and address some of what's causing all of that discontent worldwide? >> i was struck in that statement and the conference call that her staff had, you know, they basically ignore the kind of populist aings that's driving this vote. i think the reason they're doing that is because they want to focus on this election on which is the more stable, steady, reliable figure who in uncertain economic times across the globe can be a kind of steady hand at
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the tiller. so i think that's why they're shying away, but also because you know, it's tough for her. a huge part of the democratic base is hispanic and she needs those voters to win places like florida and like colorado and nevada, but at the same time, you know, she's concerned about working class american voters especially in the midwest. so it's a bit of a balancing act for her. >> do you think the result from the uk sent shock waves through brooklyn? >> oh, i think it probably did some, but i hear this comparison between these two all day today. let's keep in mind that the refugee immigration issue in europe and england is far greater than it is here. number two, if hillary clinton is not going to out immigration donald trump. i mean, she's not going to build walls and stop people from coming into the country. i think what she wants to do is say who can handle a crisis like this best? and by the way, i think in that way, hillary clinton may come out on top today a little bit, because when you look at the
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chaos that will be in britain over the next two or three months i think people will say it's probably better having hillary clinton sitting on top of that than donald trump. >> i was going to say, the last two weeks you have seen two frankly crises. you've had the tragic massacre in orlando and now you had something that was more expected, which was the brexit. and in both cases you can see a scenario, michael, where the politics, to be crass, played well for donald trump. in both cases he bungled a golden opportunity to step forward and show presidential style leadership. you know, claiming i don't want congrats after orlando and then going to his golf course and talking about how the pound was collapsing on the market would be good for his golf course u.'s stunning that he would have those two opportunities in two weeks' time and just give them
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away. >> there's something else that interests me and bill crystal tweeted on that which i'm about to raise. it's making me wonder is there a reverse bradley factor. there's his tweet. so if polls show clinton up 5, could trump be even? it's not fashionable to tell a pollster who calls your house yeah, i'm for donald trump. doesn't he have a point? >> no, he doesn't have a point at all. the reality is the demographics of the election in this country are far different than what happened in britain. 20% of the voters in 2016 will be nonwhite. unless he does remarkable huge numbers with white voters, he's toast. he's not going to make it. i'm willing to say this today. he has no chance. >> i think you're right in the sense that there could be a so-called shy donald voter.
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i think that the crystal's on to something there in terms of it's not socially acceptable to tell a live pollster that you're for trump and i think especially in places from pennsylvania to ohio to michigan, i think trump may outrun his polling, but to bob's point the larger challenge that trump has is that there's more to this country than the ballot. even as trump makes inroads in some of those states it's still tough for him if he can't get florida, colorado, nevada and virginia. >> i know if they call the beckel house he's not going to admit to it. >> you can be sure of that. there's so much polling going on right now, you think every pollster got somebody who said yeah i'm on the side for trump, that doesn't float with me. and i've been through polls for
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40 years and there's a lot of them out there and they're good now too. they're very good and if you look at this thing and look at the negatives on trump, when you're running 78% negatives among latinos, what are you going to do? >> two pros. thank you, men, i appreciate it. >> coming up a new book from a former secret service officer who worked for hillary and bill clinton. it's already a best seller, but isn't he violating part of his job title labeled secret? and a tv anchor fired for her facebook post about a shooting is suing saying she was discriminated against because she was white. does she have a case? we believe that you should keep what you buy. that's why your unused talk, text and data never expires
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bill clinton's character. he says he was the guard at the door during the monica lewinski scandal and was subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury that investigated the affair. this book is clearly being released to impact the election and preorders have made it currently number two on amazon's best seller list only behind harry potter. does the publishing of this book threaten the future safety and privacy after owl people protected by the secret service? the association of former agents of the u.s. secret service issued a statement about the book this week saying, we strongly denounce any book written by former or current employees that attempts to discredit the trust wor thuness of those charged with the protective mission of the secret service. the protection of the president, first lady and first family is a matter that transcends all
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partisan politics. joining me now, another former agent who protected both hillary clinton and president obama, the executive director now of the risk advisory group, rain. thank you so much for being here. i want to show a photograph of you in service to the nation. that is you next to the beast. correct? awaiting the arrival of president obama? >> that is correct. >> i point this out because you're a special agent. my understanding is that the gentleman writing the book is a uniformed agent. what's the difference? >> well, there's two parts to the secret service, the uniform division is a uniformed policing role. their mission is charged with protecting the facilities that house protectees. those are the white house, the vice president's residence, other locations that the secret service maintains. they are the external ring, they're providing that external protection. they're maintaining access
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control. they're an outer ring. the agents are more focused on the individual protectees. they're the close group of men and women that work close to the protectee,. the agents protect the individual. >> is it conceivable to you that a uniformed agent could have seen the sort of things that he alleges having seen? >> no. i mean, just from the prepublication documents that are out, i can't comprehend how a uniformed division officer could ever find themselves in those situations to, you know, view what he is saying that he saw. >> i'm not eager to give traction to any of the underlying allegations, but there is a report that he stumbled into seeing something untoward in the map room. i've been in the map room. i know the layout of the map room. is it conceivable to you as a special agent that a uniformed officer could have walked in on the president in the map room? >> no.
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it -- not by any means and here's why. again, roles and responsibilities of uniformed division officer and agents are different. we have different -- we have different functions. when the president walks into an environment where the uniformed division officer is, they're displaced by an agent. so even if he was standing in front of the map room door he would be displaced by an agent and the agent will now take control of that door. the map room has two doors. both of those are maintained by agents again because the role of the agent is to protect the individual, the role of the officer is to protect the outer perimeter. >> i showed your photograph working. here's a photograph of this individual. i'm sure you're going to see it on fox all next week. doesn't that show something? i mean, there he is in front of the christmas tree with the clintons. >> absolutely. what this picture tells me is you know, there's -- there's something underlying here and the reason for him writing this book. ten years later he decides to
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come out with a scandalous book and he is saying that how despicable hillary clinton is as a person, how there are all of these issues at the white house with the clinton when he was there, yet you're looking at a picture of him smiling next to the clintons next to the christmas tree like there's no disdain whatsoever. i think there's somewhat of a character issue here. >> and the point i would make is i have three or four of those with w and seven with obama and it doesn't mean we're tight. >> exactly. it doesn't tell the whole story but it tells enough here. he's saying that the premise of his book is that he had so much disdain for hillary clinton that he had to write this book and that disdain started when he was a uniformed division officer. right there, if someone has that much disdain for one of our protectees, why would you take a picture? it just doesn't add up? >> thank you so much for being here. >> thank you very much. coming up, a tv anchor fired
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white? a racially charged comment on a facebook page cost a local emmy award winning news anchor in pittsburgh her job. and now she's filed a federal lawsuit claiming that she was only fired because she's white. after a notorious local shooting that killed six people including a pregnant woman bell posted on ore facebook page quote, you needn't need to be a criminal profile to draw a mental sketch of the killer that broke so many hearts. they were young black men likely in their teens or early 20s. they have multiple fathers and
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their mothers work in multiple jobs. they've been arrested, they've made the circuit and nothing has scared them enough. now they're lost. once you kill a neighbor's three children, two nieces and her unborn grandson there's no coming back. her termination coincided with a meeting between the station management and the pittsburgh black media federation. she was told her comments on facebook were quote, inconsistent with the company's ethics and journalistic standards. the federation said at no time did it suggest or ask for ms. bell to be fired. should she have been fired? will she be reinstated? joining me now, civil rights attorney and vanderbilt university law professor. let me ask you this question. does she have a point when she says were i a person of color they never would have fired me? >> i don't think she has a point at all, michael. i think her claim that she was fired because she is white is
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preposterous. she's filed a federal civil rights lawsuit so she has a couple of things she has to prove. she first has to establish that similarly situated individuals would have been treated differently or have been treated differently. she also has to establish that she performed her job in a satisfactory fashion. i can't imagine that this news station has allowed anyone working for it to post the kind of racial and insensitive comments that this woman posted on her facebook page and that they didn't discipline them. if she can come forward and produce some evidence that they have overlooked these kinds of racially charged statements in the past, then god bless her, but i'd be hard pressed to think that she can establish that kind of case and that she's going to get very far with this lawsuit. >> do you see it the same way? >> no, i don't see it the same way. i think that there is a racial double standard. many people are concerned about black crime, and had it been a black journalist that posted a similar comment, we wouldn't be
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having this discussion. and what i find most unfortunate is that the discussion is about racially insensitive comments rather than the black on black crime that motivated her to post something that seemed to me was not meant to be racially insensitive. she was expressing i suppose on her own facebook page her feelings after having been the reporter that covered the story. >> the crime is unsolved. what if it turns out that she's correct? what if the individual or individuals who are charged match her description? >> that has nothing to do with what she said. she is a journalist. she's held to the standard -- >> she expressed her opinion. >> can i -- carol, i allowed you to finish your point. let me finish mine. she's held to a standard of reporting facts. she's supposed to do that in an unbiased way.
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she had no facts at the time that she made that statement. the police don't know who committed this crime and she didn't just call these african american young men criminals, she talked about their mothers, she said they were promise promi promiscuo promiscuous. she played into every negative stereo type about african american men possible. we expect more and demand more from journalists and i think this station has every right to expect that a journalist of her caliber would know better and would do better. >> carol? >> it's laughable that she's saying that journalists are unbiased. they have high standards. it's outlandish what journalists do in america. it's my understanding that it was her facebook page, and she was venting, but 90% of the -- of the violent crimes are black on black crimes and so her supposing that it would be a black perpetrator that wiped out
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a black family, it seems to me that that would be a pretty good guess and there is one suspect that's been apprehended and it's a young black man that is a suspect in that case, and there are other black men that have been questioned. so i think that we're having the wrong discussion. we should be talking about what's happening in chicago, we should be talking about the black on black crime that is devastating black communities across america and get over this racial insensitivity. >> there was a part two to the facebook post and it talks about how shortly after this incident occurred she went out to dinner with her husband and children and she speaks admirably, maybe some would say patronizingly about a young african american man who's working as a busboy or part of the wait staff. she goes so far as to applaud the management for having this
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young man in their employ. i hope i'm summarizing it well. >> yes. >> that didn't go over so well by some folks in the community who read it. can you speak to that issue? >> yeah, let me say this. first of all, all due respect to the professor. we can have a conversation about black on black crime while at the same time calling out journalists like this woman who makes racial statements. we can do both. i am as concerned about black on black crime as anyone on this country, but to that other statement, michael, it just shows the tone depth that we're talking about. she made the statement that this black kid is working in this restaurant and she could imagine that no one's ever given him any words of encouragement and again, she sees an african american boy and she makes all of these assumptions. she doesn't have any facts from which to make any of these statements. they were insensitive statements and it's just wrong for someone in the media who holds themselves out as a fact finder to make these kind of negative
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statements and to play into the negative stereo types that we know plague african americans, particularly men. >> you get the final word, but you've got to make it quick. >> i disagree. that young black man probably needed encouragement. we hear all the time that black teenagers don't want to work. they do want to work and we should be doing more to get them m ployed. we're having the wrong discussion. the discussion should be about black crime. >> thank you so much for being here. we've all heard stairway to heaven a million times, but a los angeles jury had to listen to it and compare it to another song to see if led zeppelin was guilty of plagiarism. >> i've got to say it makes me wonder. really makes me wonder. and the elves and the fairies --
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♪ ♪ >> wow. amazingly, that back to back comparison that you just heard, the jury never got to hear. when they wanted clarification a guitarist went into the courtroom and played the songs live. was justice served? joining me now t lawyer who filed the suit on behalf of the estate of spirit's late guitarist randy wolf. he performed as randy california. why didn't the jury get to hear the recorded versions? >> well, you know, it's frustrating for us, because you know, justice is always about the search for the truth and in this instance it sort of escaped plaintiff. we feel that there was evidentiary rulings that
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prevented the jury from ever hearing what was really at issue. that's frustrating from a plaintiff's perspective but it's also frustrating because the jury never got to hear what jimmy paige and roger plant had access to. we were able to prove that they had access to the spirit composition and they heard it not only live, but also because they had it in the record collection of jimmy paige. we were able to prove that point of access. we were able to prove the trust on the copyright but we were never able to allow the jury to hear the very music. >> but there must have been some logic on the part of the federal judge who said i'm not going to allow the recording itself to be played in open court. >> well, we believe it's reversible error and that's a big issue in this case. there was clearly evidentiary rulings that went against plaintiff and made it almost as if we had to try a case with both hands tied behind our back. we were never able to play for
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the jury the composition embodied in that sound recording. >> let me ask if i'm understanding. you could show the jury the sheet music, but you couldn't play for them the recording. that's the bottom line. right? >> the bottom line is that basically i was comparing apples to oranges. i was comparing a piece of sheet music to a fully produced version of "stairway to heaven" and we believe that the evidentiary ruling hurt us in this case and if they had heard the actual music that was at issue that they had access to, i'm confident it would have been a different result. >> i like the way that you filed the complaint. you did it in a very zeppelin esque font. did you grow up with zeppelin posters all over your bedroom and if so, what was it like to take on the rock gods? >> i always believe in every case i take. and i wouldn't get involved if i wasn't interested in seeing justice through.
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my background is music and i often represent the creatives. yes, i think led zeppelin is an incredible band, but i think the fault is they failed to give credit where credit is due and it's not just in this case. it's in many cases so for them it was about their legacy -- >> you cast this as a $60 million lawsuit. i was interested to see that the band's accountant came in and said since 2000 eleven it's generated, this song, 532,000 for roger plant. kind of a curious thing, i always wondered what's the value of a song? what's the value of free bird? you get the final word. >> i think that you know, everyone's going to have a different position on what a song's worth. for us it was never about the money. it was always about credit. we said we'd settle this case for one dollar in credit and it's unfortunate how it all played out. different sides are going to have different economists coming to different values, but for us
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this week in a 4-4 deadlock the supreme court thwarted president obama's immigration plan that would have shielded 4 million undocumented immigrants from deportation. for most of us, the outcome, it's of stuff of philosophical debate. no not for katherine. katherine was born in the philippines in 1979. she and her sister were left with their grandparents in manila. the family separation was tough. katherine's aunt who lived in the u.s. suggested they try their luck here. her family came to the united
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