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john kerry heads to brussels n london. let's begin our coverage with cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson live in brussels. >> reporter: we can, -- well, secretary kerry will be arriving soon here in brussels. the united states is a friend of the european union and has a special relationship sand is a friend of britain. the european union is saying, show your credibility. you've taken this vote. let's see you move towards extricating yourself from the european union. the message emerging from britain is one that's been very clear as well, which is we're going to take our time about this. this is how secretary kerry put the importance of his visit here. >> the most important thing is that all of us as leaders work together to provide as much continuity, as much stability, as much certainty as possible in
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order for the marketplace to understand that there are ways to minimize disruption, there are ways to smartly move ahead in order to protect the values and interests that we share in common. >> reporter: but here's the harsh reality. as much as the united states has a special relationship with britain, britain is in a political mess right now. there is no real leadership. david cameron has stepped down. there is no really strong political figure to lead the country as the european union wants it to. the opposition, the labor party, is in free fall and breaking down. you have scotland saying it may go for a second independence referendum to leave britain and stay part of the european union. there is so much going on, so many moving pieces. this is the environment secretary kerry comes back into. vi vict victor? >> and it's all happening so much. thanks so much.
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after a massive selloff friday, u.s. and global markets are looking to steady things outs. here's the question. will it be another ugly day for investors? cnn chief business correspondent christine romans joins us with the latest on that. >> good morning. well, it certainly was an ugly day on friday. no question. so does it stabilize today? this is what i can tell you is happening right now. you have u.s. futures still down a little bit here. not a big surprise. you often see a little more selling after a really big bad day like that. really closely watching -- if this holds this morning at the opening bell, you'll see maybe a little bit of losses here. but really we're watching europe and how europe is continuing to process this really earthquake news. you've got london down about 1% here. paris down 1%. frankfurt down as well. so still more losses there. you saw a mixed market in asia. that was a little bit of a relief there. we're really watching the pound here. the pound just devastated on friday and continuing to lose a
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little bit of ground here. take a look at this. this is the move here. really a big, damaging move for the pound. it means that the dollar is stronger, so that's going to hurt -- could hurt earnings for big u.s. multinationals. that's something to watch. a lot of the money rushing into the gold market, into the bond market. the treasury yield below 1.5%. that means mortgage rates are probably going to decline. that's the only silver lining i can give you. >> every time that pound drops, there will be more questions to the brexit leaders. christine, thank you very much. presumptive democratic nominee hillary clinton slamming donald trump's reaction to the brexit vote. this as she prepares to team up with one of trump's most vocal critics, senator elizabeth warren. jeff zeleny is live in cincinnati with more. what can we expect? >> reporter: good morning, chris. the fallout from the brexit referendum certainly reverberating on the campaign trail. it's one of the reason hillary
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clinton wants this message from elizabeth warren to be front and center in her own campaign. hillary clinton has admired elizabeth warren from affair. today for the first time on the same stage, she'll get an up-close look. this morning, hillary clinton and elizabeth warren to make their campaigning debut. testing their chemistry in cincinnati. cnn has learned the massachusetts senator is on a short list of potential running mates being vetted by clinton. a choice that could potentially excite liberals and bernie sanders' supporters to enthusiastically back a clinton/warren ticket. warren has emerged as one of donald trump's harshest critics. >> a small, insecure money grubber. >> reporter: appearing with clinton as she prepares a new line of attack against the presumptive republican nominee. >> stocks tank around the world. >> brand new sprinkler system, the highest level. >> he's talking about his new sprinkler system. >> reporter: the clinton campaign releasing a new ad,
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slamming trump's response to the split from the european union. >> in a volatile world, the last thing we need is a volatile president. >> reporter: trump touring his new golf course in scotland the day after the vote, calling the economic fallout a good thing for his business. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming, frankly. >> reporter: and comparing the outcome of the brexit referendum to the same momentum that's carrying him to the gop nomination. >> people want to take their country back, so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. i think it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact i've done so well in the polls. >> reporter: while rallying support on sunday from the nation's mayors meeting in indianapolis, clinton cautioned against a trump presidency. >> bombastic comments in turbulent times can actually cause more turbulence. >> reporter: now, all this comes as clinton's lead appears to be widening in this race with donald trump, yet conflicting signs over the weekend of just
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how much. one poll shows her with a five-point lead. that's the nbc/"wall street journal" poll. the abc poll shows a 12-point lead. so chris and alisyn, still a clinton advantage at this point. having elizabeth warrens s as a tryout today will be one of the first steps in picking her vice president. other people are on that list as well. >> jeff, we'll be watching along with you. thanks so much for all of that. now let's discuss the fallout of the brexit vote with our panel. great to have all of you here. days after the brexit vote, the dust should be settling, but it's not settling. in fact, there's this phenomenon called regrexit.
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>> well, i don't think the leave campaign did a very good job outlining what it means. as we know, a lot of uk citizens didn't understand what the eu was, didn't understand the implications. they led a campaign that was about immigration, that was about haves and have nots and didn't focus on the actual mechanics of a very complicated trade deal. trade deals are boring. nobody ever campaigns on a trade deal. now they're realizing this trade deal may fall apart. there will be inflation. the currency continues to be at almost a 30-year low. so there are consequences that the leave campaign didn't tell them about. now we're starting to face them. >> the euro versus the pound versus the dollar. it's something people want to pay attention to. now they're watching their pound. every time it goes down versus the dollar, people are getting more angry. that's a tough thing to deal with politically. but they're just starting to see what this is going to mean. we had the leaders come out and say, well, we're not going to get out of this that quickly.
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that's a huge selling point, we're going to get out like that. and this money, depending on how many tens of millions of pounds you want to put it. that was supposed to shore up the health care system. we don't know what we're going to do with it. where could this lead? >> there's a massive amount of uncertainty. we don't know where this is going to lead. many terms of here, it's having a royiling effect on the sock stock markets. in terms of our election -- >> you americans. it's all about you. >> in terms of our election, normally speaking in a time of economic uncertainty, that should be a strong case for a change agent. that would be donald trump. the problem is, donald trump has had trouble grasping the fallout from this. he happened to be in the uk right after brexit. he sounded as if he was cheering for economic calamity, saying that he does well when the pound goes down either way because people show up at his resorts. this could be a problematic
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message. i think that we don't know where this goes. we don't know yet what the impact is here. the short-term economic impact is not good. >> to chris' point, let's look to see if some of the leaders of brexit did overpromise in what they claimed would be the wonderful upshot of all this. one of the architects seemed to be back pedaling on the idea that this would save millions of dollars every week because britain wouldn't have to give it to europe. so listen to this. >> the 350 million pounds a week we sent to the eu, which we'll no longer send to the eu, can you guarantee that's going to go to the nhs? >> no, i can't. and i would never make that claim. >> 17 million people voted for leave. i don't know how many people voted on the basis of that, but that was a huge part of the propaganda. you're saying that was a mistake? >> we have a 10 billion pound a year, 30 million pound a day feather bed that's going to be free money that we can spend. >> so maybe they should have had those details before they voted.
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>> yeah. look, that leader in particular, they've made the most inflammatory comments. really what was driving people were sort of primal emotions. it wasn't really about sort of saving a little bit of tax money here and there. it was really more about the immigration fears that have really roiled the conteinent. they've never really come clean with the fact the population of europe and country after country is collapsing. not just declining but collapsing. they need immigrants. for over a decade, the quiet encouragement of movement of people and of immigration has really changed the nature of europe. by not coming clean with people, they really sort of sold them a bill of goods. now i think the bill has come due. >> it's like one of those movies where you get the slap and your face goes like this and the hand goes the other way. the first one was, wait a minute, we already control our immigration? it's not the eu making these
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people come in? then it came back the other way, which was, wait a minute, we're going to have to negotiate trade deals now? >> on thursday, they were the fifth largest power in the world. now they're the sixth largest power in the world. they were an instrumental part of one of the world's biggest powers. so america is roughly equal to the eu, which is roughly equal to china in terms of trade weight. so these three groups were punching at their own weight. the uk was a leader in the eu. now they're the sixth largest power in the world. as much as president obama doesn't want to reiterate this, they do kind of go to the back of the line. trade negotiations take years. they're the most boring thing on the earth, but they're necessary. so the uk can't do without this. immigration in the uk and through europe and in canada and in the united states and in australia is a net economic positive all the time. nobody wants to figure that out. and the united kingdom is an island. you can't get into it but for getting there by boat, swimming, or by plane or a train from underground.
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no matter how you go intod king show your passport every time. >> it was already that way. >> if you walk into greece, you can walk all the way to northern france unmolested. you cannot do that in the united kingdom. they control their borders more than any other country in the european union, possibly except for switzerland and norway because they don't have full integration into the eu. so the whole thing was a farce. and that 350 million a week that nigel keeps talking about, it's not. they give 350 million pounds and get about 120 million back in other benefits. so it's just been lie after lie after lie, and people bought it. >> maggie, let's talk about the parallels between what we saw there and here in the u.s., including one of the leaders of the leave movement, boris johnson, who many have likened to sort of britain's donald trump. what are the similarities? >> similarities are sort of, among other things, a stylistic approach. boris johnson was a major proponent of the leave campaign. you have seen donald trump as a
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major proponent of, you know, similar fears, as you were saying, about immigration, about trade, about borders. the problem is that there is certainly an anti-globalist sentiment that's there, that is in the united states. the difference is, the electorate there -- this was an up-down referendum. we do not have up-down presidential races. we have the electoral college. the voters there were primarily white. this is going to be a lot of black voters, a lot of hispanic voters, a lot of asian-american voters. that is where there are not parallels. where there are parallels, to your point, in terms of the factual claims or lack thereof, in terms of making statements that just turn out to be broadly untrue, claims that, for instance, a staple of donald trump's campaign has been that president obama and hillary clinton want to bring in, i think it's a 550% increase in immigrants. that's not true. we've seen in this presidential race throughout the republican
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primary, but we also saw some in the democratic primary, claims of fact that were not there. we had seen these broad based statements, and it played into people's fears. people are angry. there's a lot of voters who have not had a wage hike in a long time. the problem for these voters, and we were talking about this earlier, is when this election is over, if donald trump loses, there's not going to be a whole lot of incentive to help those voters. that's going to be something this country is going to have to grapple with as we're seeing what happens post this explosive vote. >> it matters. you have the same bloc that motivated the vote there could motivate the vote here this time. they've been skipped over for a generation. when we come back, we want to unpack how it place out here, looking at what brexit is as a lesson going forward. we'll do that. >> let's get to victor for what's coming up. >> let's stay with the race for president. the troubled marriage between donald trump and the gop is getting tense. the senate majority leader was asked if trump is qualified to be president. what's his response? find out next. .
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the polls a little bit. meantime, a conservative heavy weight so fed up with trump, he says he's leaving the party. let's get back to the implications with our panel. we have been talking as we went to the break about, all right, so how do we diagnose what's going on here in this election looking at what happened with brexit? maggie pointed out the narrative is something to look at. you're angry, you're angry, you're angry. we'll change, we'll change, we'll change. now they don't deliver. what happens? this slice of be careful what you wish for, how do you project on to this election? >> that's been on one level the story of the republican party for the last several cycles. they promised, they promised, they promised, then they don't deliver. people get even more angry. the next group comes along and says, no, i'm really going to do it, or i've got a more extreme promise. that's led us to donald trump. now he says, i'm going to do all kinds of different things. i'm going to stop muslim immigration somehow, i'm going to find and deport 11 million people and do that in a way that's constitutional and feasible. and some people have bought
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that. the polls are suggesting that far from a majority are buying that at this point, but that's really what the election has turned into, to a great extent. hillary clinton, i think, does not want to go down that rabbit hole. so she has been really trying to sort of avoid that and point out that you don't want the kind of turmoil that we're seeing now in europe. you don't want to have a question in front of you like brexit. if you turn the election into that, you're going to end up with all of the disappointment, all of the confusion, all of the economic dislocation we're starting to see in britain. all of those things are putting, i think, a political sort of template on top of something that's completely different. i mean, arizona ali talked about, immigration and trade, these are boring things for a lot of people. if you turn it into politics, you start talking about images, you start making the kind of statements we've heard especially from donald trump, it all turns into a very different kind of a question. the separation between the facts and the vote really starts to widen, unfortunately.
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>> so ali, over the weekend, three high-profile republicans say they won't be voting for donald trump. george will says he's leaving the party. hank paulson said he can't vote for donald trump. we've interviewed scores of trump supporters. they won't care. >> right. so the problem is the three people you named are policy wonks. they're conservatives in the way they can speak about it from different angles, from a social policy perspective, from a defense policy perspective,pers. this is where donald trump's weakness is greatest, where he has to speak in specificity. we're a month away from both conventions having been done, after which we're going to get into debates, during which they're going to have to speak in great specificity about things. hillary clinton is going to start to shine because she'll have specific answers to things. donald trump's vague
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generalities, it's going to be great. russia's terrific, i had a miss universe there. scotland is ecstatic over a brexit. this is going to start to hurt him because he's going to start to be pressed, hopefully by people like you, with very specific questions. then that distance between fact and fiction will narrow again. >> but here's the pushback on that. you check donald trump all day long on facts. believe me, we've got the scores here. his supporters say, i'm still angry. then they look over to the other side, and hillary clinton is pitching and selling the worst thing to pitch and sell in politics, which is the status quo. that's not an easy compromise for voters to make. i'm angry. this guy, trump, maybe i don't know if i can believe it, i look at you and you're telling me the same old, same old. >> there's a reason there have not been that many third-term cases essentially of the same party over the last 50 years. we've had it once. we had it with george h.w. bush after ronald reagan. it's hard to get elected as a
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member of the same party for what is essentially a third term. she is running essentially as a continuation of obama's legacy. she's going have to go for some separation at some point in the fall. we're not sure what that's going to look like. we're going to assume that the economy holds and that will be good for her. what is good for her is that president obama's approval rating is quite high. partly in contrast to this very sort of toxic presidential race we've seen play out over many months, but it's certainly much higher than her numbers or donald trump's numbers. to your point about his supporters, he doesn't at the moment -- we saw two polls come out in the last two days. they've showed a widely different gap in terms of support. he's behind in both, donald trump. he's losing to hillary clinton in both. he's not been ahead in a horse race poll in a month. that is a long time. we saw mitt romney have a similar struggle in 2012, not to this degree, but at a certain point, and this is the risk for trump, when voters think you are insulting them, when voters
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think you are saying you don't matter, they don't hear anything else. they don't hear the rest of what you're saying. so for trump, the question is going to become, can he turn these negatives around? he doesn't have enough of his own supporters who he had in the primary to get him elected in the general election. he needs to make new supporters. it's not clear yet that he's going to be able to do that. he has a very small amount of time. he's not been up with ads. the super pacs supporting him have not done any battleground ads. he's very low on cash. hillary clinton is obliterating him on television in key battleground states. at a certain point, you can say, and he will say, i'm closer than i should be, and i haven't spent that much money, but losing is losing. he has to make up that ground at some point. >> meanwhile, during the sunday shows, mitch mcconnell was asked if he thinks that trump was qualified to be president, and he would not basically answer that. i mean, he said basically, i'll leave it up to the voters. this has been a real predicament for various republican leaders when they're asked direct questions like this.
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>> that's right. and it's actually in some ways the most devastating thing mitch mcconnell could have said. the question of whether or not you're qualified, whether you even belong in the race, whether it's possible, not a good policy or a bad policy, but you're just not ready to do any of this, that's hillary clinton's knockout blow. donald trump is trying to do the same thing to her. they're really sort of polarizing the electorate. that's why we see so much anger. that's why we're seeing the extreme statements. that's why we're going to see the numbers go in the direction they're going to go. for the head of the party to say we have a nominee that i can't really come out and just say he belongs in the white house, that's tough for trump. he's got a lot to overcome with that. >> especially from politicians. if there's one thing they do well, it's give a false positive. you know what i mean? >> right, right. >> panel, thank you very much. great to talk to you. let's get to victor for what's coming up. >> i wonder if you've seen this, the chaos in california. a rally turns violent at the
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so now i'm not being perky, telling you that drivers that switch to progressive save an average of $548! whoo! i mean, whoo. welcome back to "new day." violence breaks out at a rally in california. at least ten people injured, some stabbed, as a white supremacist group and protesters clashed at the state capitol. dane is there with more. good morning. >> reporter: morning, victor. what a scene you had here in sacramento. on the one side, you had this white nationalist group. they had a permit to hold a rally here in sacramento. on the other side, you had a group of counterprotesters who wanted to say that hate speech is not going to be tolerated. just as this rally is about to begin, you have this group of counterprotesters encircle the white nationalist group. that's when this melee broke out.
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the head of this white nationalist group, it's called the traditionalist worker party, said that his members did come to sacramento armed with knives because he said they received threats on social media. usually police like to keep the two sides apart when you have the threat of violence looming. obviously that did not happen in this case. ten people injured, but everybody is expected to survive. alisyn, back to you. >> thanks so much for that reporting. five people, including three children, were killed after an amtrak train slammed into their van. colorado police say the van's driver failed to yield the right-of-way to the train. another person was air lifted to the hospital with serious injuries. no one on board the train was hurt. the death toll now 25 because of these historic floods in west virginia. several towns still submerged. look at this. that tractor trailer was tipped on its side because of the water. the water was moving that truck over time. the state's governor says flash
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flooding has destroyed at least 100 homes. the president declared a major disaster in the state. another round of rain is on its way today. we'll stay on this story. an investigation under way at an amusement park in scotland after a roller coaster packed with riders went off the tracks. ten people, including eight children, were hurt in sunday's derailment at an amusement park near glasgow. police say five gondolas detached, slammed into the ride structure, and crashed to the ground. i can't imagine. there is that moment on a roller coaster where you feel -- maybe it's designed to feel that way, but this is unbelievable. >> you nailed it. it's designed to make you feel scared. it's not supposed to be designed to actually be a cause for concern. >> that's the beauty of a roller coaster. you think you're doing something death defying, but you know i'm safe because they test these things. so that is so scary for everybody involved. we'll follow that. meanwhile, the fallout from brexit, what does the uk's divorce from the eu mean for the fight against terror? we have a former top safety
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the fallout from the brexit vote leaving britain in political turmoil this morning and allies wondering whether the uk itself will remain united. what impact will this have on europe's fight against terror? let's discuss all of this with former u.s. is under secretary for political affairs and former u.s. ambassador to greece, nicolas burns. good morning, mr. ambassador. >> good morning. >> what's your greatest fear connected to brexit? >> the greatest fear is that the most important country to us in the european union is now going to be out. britain has been our channel into the european union. britain tended to see things our way and we their way on defense and security issues. so britain was a voice inside the eu that connected the united states to the eu. it also translated the united states to the eu and strengthening our position in europe. without britain in the european union, on issues like sanctions
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against russia, it might be more difficult to make sure we're working together. i think that's the primary problem with brexit. secondly, britain itself, as you implied, might be fractured. scotland, if britain does indeed leave the european union, has promised a referendum for independence. the irish question, the age-old irish question could be reopened. relations between northern ireland and the republic of ireland. there are a lot of consequences for americans in this vote. >> we've talked to tony blair, former prime minister, here on friday. he also was gravely concerned, i think it's fair to say, about what the implications were for this. he talked about the economic impact as well as how complicated it is to sort of untangle trade agreements and contracts and treaties. what do you think about all that? >> oh, i think it's going to be -- first of all, you're going to see the most bitter divorce separation, divorce trial in history between the european union and britain.
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there's extraordinary regret among a lot of brits over the weekend as to what has happened. there's even some speculation that a new conservative government after david cameron resigns power could even attempt to renegotiate britain's relationship with the european union and then perhaps put that to a vote. we don't know it's going to happen now, but at a time when the united states is trying to push forward with a major transatlantic trade and investment treaty, a free trade agreement with the eu, at a time where we're trying to contain and deter vladimir putin, britain played a key role in both those issues. i think the british are going to be consumed by their own problems. they're going to be inward focused over the next couple months as they go through leadership battles. that will mean that britain's a distracted ally for us. we do have a special relationship with britain. that's the term that we've used over many decades. but as a practicing diplomat, when i was in government, there was no question that the trust
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we had with britain was strongest among all the countries. i would also say, alisyn, it does mean now in britain is going to leave the european union that we're going have to have a stronger, deeper relationship with germany. >> and what does this mean for the fight against terrorism? why are you concerned it will be harder to fight terrorism if britain leaves? >> well, i think the british are going to remain focused on the battle against terrorism. they're a victim of terrorism themselves. the british and american governments have worked very closely on this for many, many years. i don't think britain will lose focus on that, but a diminished britain eventually, if scotland leaves, if there's even a change in the status of northern ireland, the country just won't be as strong as it once was. one would hope the british military and intelligence services will continue to be well funded and well trained because this fight against terrorism is a very long fight indeed for all of us. >> donald trump was in scotland, as you know, when all of this was happening on friday.
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he talked about how there could be a silver lining economically speaking, that it's not such a bad thing if the british pound were to go down. so let me play for you that moment that he talked about. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnbury, frankly. >> so he was talking about his resort. that means more tourism will come, and of course more tourism would come to england throughout. what's your reaction? >> i think he failed a leadership test when he reacted to brexit. this is our strongest and greatest ally in the world. the first thing that donald trump does is talk about the impact on his own business, his golf course business, and to suggest somehow his interests should take precedence over those of our greatest ally, i thought it was a preposterous thing for him to say. when leaders look at this, i think any american leader in the democratic or republican party with the exception of donald trump has lamented the fact that
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our strongest ally is now weakened. we have -- our lead trade partner is europe. our leading investor into the united states is europe. the strongest collection of american allies in the world are europe. if europe has suffered a defeat through brexit, i find it strange indeed that donald trump would cheer that. i think he's the only major american politician who's takestaken this position. if the united states in turn is going to be weakened in our position in europe. >> former ambassador nicolas burns, thank you so much. >> thank you. it was a rough start at the olympic trials for a swimming superstar. we'll tell you who did not make the cut for the usa team.
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coach has seen a decline in her health in recent days. andy scholes has more in this morning's bleacher report. summit has been very out front about what she's fighting and what it means, but she's such a huge figure that everybody has been pulling for. >> absolutely. one of the best coaches of all time, male or female. pat summit retired from coaching after announcing she was diagnosed with early onset dementia. her family says the disease has progressed over the last few days. once the news broke yesterday, #prayforpat began trending on twitter. she coached 38 seasons, winning eight national titles. he has more wins than any college coach, male or female. summit's family is asking for prayers in this difficult time. all right. the copa america final in new jersey between the number one ranked team in the world, argentina, and chile coming down
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to penalty kicks. messi shoots it over the crossbar. he couldn't believe it. neither could the fans. chile would win it in penalties to claim the title. argentina once again coming up short. messi has lost in three copa finals. he said he's likely done playing for the national team. finally, a shocker from the u.s. olympic swimming trials. ryan lochte failing to qualify for the 400-meter individual medley last night. that's the event he won gold in at the 2012 london games. lochte had pulled his groin earlier in the day. that could put his rio dreams in jeopardy. michael phelps, meanwhile, will try to qualify for team usa starting tomorrow with the 200-meter butterfly. i start to get excited about the olympics once these swimming trials start. it's really probably the most exciting event there is. >> we're getting close. almost there. thanks so much. >> this is a big one.
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part of the story of the olympics are the personalities. if lochte's not there, that's a big blow. >> absolutely. >> he's a big personality. >> yes. all right. well, americans are feeling aftershocks even of the brexit vote. what exact will it have on the 2016 race here? we discuss that next. think big. or demand your own space. don't you dare leave it all behind. don't you dare ask what's next. introducing the first-ever cadillac xt5. ♪
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europe, and yes reverberations back here to the u.s. in terms of what is the flow of our election, what could it be a metaphor for. both the campaigns, clinton and trump, are trying to capitalize on the situation. trump looking to ride the populist wave. look what happens when you take your country back. clinton saying the vote calls for a steady hand. let's discuss the plus/minus on both sides. professor, i start with you. how rude of me to not say your name, especially when we went to college together. when you see brexit, it was a vote that was done out of anger of people, and sometimes you don't make your best choices when you're angry. do you believe this is an example of that, and if so, why in terms of its reverberation back to our election? >> right. clearly there's a lot of anger, and this was an opportunity for people in britain, many people
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in britain, to kind of shake a fist at a political establishment they felt was not responsive and at a loss of sovereignty and out of frustration of immigration. you certainly see some of that stuff here in widespread hostilities toward political elites and also anger in the republican party over immigration. i think a big difference is here we have two candidates. so you can't just make a protest vote. you can't just vote for an idea. you have to vote for a person. i think there's a percentage of people who would love to shake a fist at the american political establishment but still have problems with donald trump. in fact, his response to brexit underscored the fact he's a flawed candidate, saying had is great because it's going to put more money in my pocket because people are going to come to my golf course, was probably not the wisest response to brexit and underscores the fact he may not get all of the supporters who themselves would like to be anti-establishment. >> now, matt, there are a lot of characteristics that make the brexit vote distinguishable from what's happening in the
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election. there's a lot of layers of trade and politics and narratives going on. however, this first element that peter identified, the populism of it, taking your country back, that does resonate back here. what do you see as a chance for trump to play to advantage here and has he so far? >> yeah, absolutely. i see great parallels, chris, between what the voters were saying in great britain and what voters are saying here. look, it is populist, and i think it's a little bit of people who feel like they're not always in on the take. they're not always getting to sit around that table to make these decisions. it's about economics. it's about the fact that many americans don't see a great future in their economic prospects. it's also about sovereignty, as peter said. it's about the idea that they don't like the fact that somebody else is telling them what rules should be followed and what rules shouldn't be followed. i do think immigration
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undergirds all of this. europe, it was more of a pernicious problem in terms of terrorism than it is here, but we're seeing it here as well with these terrible and horrific tragedies. i think the problem is, chris, there's a lot of elites in both parties who are somehow just not connected to what every day americans are thinking. that's why you saw this bernie revolution on the democratic side, and that's why you saw trump knock down 16 other candidates. >> but that's the risk. the risk is once you identify the anger, what do you do with it? how do you make it better? what we're seeing in the early aftermath of brexit is some of the headline promises that drove the vote they're backing off on. again, there are big substantive differences to what's going on. let's just stick with that idea that they promised things that harness the anger, that sounded like the kind of change that people wanted in the uk. they voted. now they're being told, well, look, it's not as simple as we made it out to be. that's powerful medicine also. >> right. you can play this either way. i think you can say this could
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hurt the u.s. economy, which might actually help donald trump because it makes people more frustrated. or you can say this is a kind of instructive tale, a cautionary tale for people who might want to vote for donald trump. you saw the ad hillary clinton wept up wi went up with. in a volatile world, do you want a volatile candidate? do you want to wake up the next morning and be dealing with some of the same fallout the british have dealt with, with brexit. donald trump's election, according to a lot of economists and serious people who look at this, actually could be very, very harmful to the world economy. >> matt, you know -- >> no, no. >> explain why you don't believe that. >> no, no. look, i quibble with this world anger. i quibble with the world anger for these uk voters and these american voters. i don't think it's fair to say there's some kind of, like, irrationally angry. they're concerned about the future of their country. the issues that undergird these elections are incredibly
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important. the only markets that are going to be upset by this brexit vote are people's equities in the stock markets that will be jittery in the fact there's all this change. but there are bigger economic problems just besides the value of your stocks, which are what are your economic prospects of your people? that's what's going on in america as well. yeah, there's no question that if donald trump were to be elected president, there are a lot of people on wall street that will get the jitters. we could see some gyrations in the markets. but we have to make good economic decisions underneath all that drama to make sure that we have economic prospects and jobs and that we're making smart decisions on the regulatory and tax front. >> two things. one, anger and irrational anger are totally different things. you haven't heard me say irrational anger. there's a reason for that, matt. the other question i want to le leave you with, do you have complete confidence that trump can avoid the brexit pitfall, which is promising things you can't deliver? do you believe donald trump can do everything he's said he can do? >> i think he puts a nice spin on everything. he's a hell of a good marketer.
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i think actually doing these things is much tougher. i think that's probably true in the uk and probably true here. these are serious problems, chris. >> matt, appreciate it. professor, always a pleasure. what do you think? we're following this now. we're going to tell you more as brexit unfolds. how do you see it reflecting back on our own election? use facebook, twitter. there's huge chaos in britain after this brexit vote. what's going to happen there and in europe is unclear, but we have new information. let's get right to it. the nervousness you see in the markets is likely to continue. >> we lost more than we've paid into the european union in the last 15 years. >> the uk parliament is set to vote for the first time. >> it's a desperately displmaye country waking up and wondering, what the hell have we done? >> there are many frustrated people in britain. there are frustrated people here at home too.
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>> obviously for the 219th time, they were on it. >> you can't respond with a snarky tweet. >> let me tell you how it's going to play out. trump is going to win, and the world is going to be a happy place again. >> historic remarks aboard the pa papal plane. >> pope francis says the catholic church should apologize for how people have been treated. >> this is "new day." >> such a fundamental shift tonally. we've seen this with this pope before. if the news happens on these trips, it's usually on the plane. >> he continues to break ground all the time. he's not afraid to go there, as we say. good morning, everyone. welcome to "new day." victor blackwell joins us this morning. great to have you here. a lot of news to tell you about. britain is in a state of political chaos this morning after the brexit vote. even the top supporters of britain leaving the eu seem to be backing off some of their biggest promises. >> britain's parliament is going to meet today to discuss the
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next steps. there's so much unclear here about how to move forward. you also have secretary of state john kerry heading to brussels and london to discuss the transition. let's begin our coverage with cnn's senior international correspondent nic robertson live in brussels. let us know the state of play. >> reporter: the state of play is this. secretary kerry is going to arrive in brussels today as a friend of great britain. that special relationship is talked about this weekend. as a friend of the european union, the united states and european union will continue to have a good working, productive relationship. he's going to try and, if you will, bring the two together. right now you have britain on the one hand saying it's not quite sure when it's going to go to the european union to begin negotiating this exit. it could be october. it could be sometime after that. politics are in disarray. on the other hand, you have european union leaders who are saying, hurry up, britain, get
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on with it. you've got to show good faith. you said you want to leave the european union. let's begin negotiating this and get it done. we have to recognize there is bad blood between britain and the european union over past negotiations. britain has not been a fully paid-up member, if you will, of the european union. it's not been showing the euro currency and has not been part of the free passport border zone. there is tension that already existed. that tension is what secretary kerry is walking into. when he arrives today, his priority is to lend some sort of stability to the situation. this is what he said. >> the most important thing is that all of us as leaders work together to provide as much continuity, as much stability, as much certainty as possible in order for the marketplace to understand that there are ways to minimize disruption, there are ways to smartly move ahead in order to protect the values
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and interests that we share in common. >> reporter: but he's moving into a very tough situation. britain is nowhere near in a position to do what the european union is expecting of it right now. it's in political turmoil. victor? >> thanks. british prime minister david cameron is convening with his cabinet after the brexit vote. so how will parliament address the political crisis? cnn's richard quest live at the prime minister's residence in london with more. richard? >> reporter: victor, the cabinet meeting took place this morning, and the prime minister will go to westminster. it'll be his first chance to brief mps and not only on the result of the referendum but also his decision to step down in october, but he'll face a house where most of the people simply have no idea of the way forward, no road map exists. there are no instructions what happens next. the opposition on the opposite side of the house is in total disarray.
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and there are plenty of people on his own side of the house who are basically saying that the next prime minister must be dedicated to taking britain out of the eu. put all that uncertainty together, and it is not surprising that once again the pound sterling is down sharply. it's off between 2% and 3%, trading at the lowest level since the early 1980s. all the major markets in europe are down, victor. they are down about 2% or 3%. it's one word, it's uncertainty, it's unknown, and it's simply fear. alisyn? >> richard, thanks so much for explaining all of that to us so well. the british pound slumping, as you heard richard say, to a new 30-year low against the dollar. investors around the world rattled by uk's decision to exit the european union. cnn business correspondent alison kosik has a live look at the stock exchange. >> after a stomach-churning session on friday, investors are looking to keep their heads
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above water. i'm not seeing the capitulation that everybody was worried that would happen today. if we go to london, as richard was alluding to, you're seeing the london financial markets dropping. stocks in paris and frankfurt, they're slipping as well. in tokyo, we did see a big rebound as investors there rushed into the japanese currency. other markets in asia finished higher as well. get ready for volatility for u.s. markets. futures have been bouncing all around, still in the red. looks like the dow could open triple digits lower. although it may seem that investors had a couple of days to think about the brexit, i think what we're seeing is, yeah, the shock has worn off, but the road ahead is going to be very bumpy. don't be surprised to see more volatility as we see these big swings up and big swings down as investors try to figure out what's going to be happening in the uk and the european union. chris? >> as you know, we're riding the wave here in the u.s. it's back in the uk and europe
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where this is just starting to hit. let's discuss with cnn chief international correspondent and cnn i anchor christiane aymmanpr and international correspondent clarissa ward. you were saying these promises from the brexit leaders, this is going to be hard, this talk about immigration, this is deceptive, the economic fallout, this is going to be wide ranging. now we're starting to see it come out. what are you seeing? >> well, what is absolutely extraordinary is really summed up in a tweet that's going around. it says, we need a plan. the truth of the matter is we tried over and over again each and every time we interviewed the key brexit leaders to get them to tell us a plan. they didn't have a plan beyond slogans. take back control. you know, cut immigration. all of that. now we're seeing that they are actually backtracking. we don't know whether they'll retrack again, but right now in
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the aftermath of the clear volatility we've seen, there seems to be a somberness, a little bit of fear amongst the brexit leaders. they have not even come out publicly to address the people. we've had the remain leaders. we've had david cameron. we've had the treasury secretary george osborne trying to stabilize the situation and say, we will try. but boris johnson, michael gove, where are they? boris johnson has written an article in which he's backtracked on the whole immigration thing, basically saying that, yes, we can still be a member of the single market. this is the key underpinning of europe, but it requires with it free flow of labor and free flow of people. they don't want to do that. so we need a plan. there is no plan, at least none that we've been able to see. coupled with that, the, i'm afraid to say, what really did move this vote was the fear of the foreigner. we're seeing anecdotal and unfortunate fallout, hate crimes and hate speech and racist
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attacks against certain members. it's by no means wholesale, but it is anecdotal enough to worry and scare people. we've got that as well. and we know that this could potentially -- and let's not take this as just rhetoric. this could potentially unravel the united kingdom. the leaders of northern ireland are serious. they have wanted for a long time in northern ireland to reunify with the south. that was their project from the beginning of the so-called troubles. this peace process we have now is to them just a steppingstone to eventual reunification. if they're out of the eu and the south, ireland itself is in the eu, they want in and they want a vote to reunify. and with scotland, the same. so there's a lot of uncertainty. that's about as certain as we can be right now. >> we are certain of uncertainty. that is an uncomfortable place to be. then you look, clarissa, at contextualizing what's happening in the uk to the u.s.
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secretary of state john kerry running over to brussels to try to help negotiate a process that could take years. what are you hearing outlined for the concerns for the u.s. going forward? >> i think there are major concerns, chris. historically, the uk is the u.s.'s direct line to europe. it's the most important bilateral relationship possibly in the world. and what a world it is that we're now looking at with an increasing assertive russia, with the coalition efforts to fight isis in syria and iraq and libya. there are more areas than ever in which the u.s. relies heavily on the uk and of course its european allies to fight terrorism, to stand up to russia, to reinvigorate nato. so i think there's no sense of an imminent decline in the relationship, but what the concern is, of course, for the u.s. is that britain's standing on the world stage will be tarnished by this brexit. if we see, as it looks very
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likely, a major recession in the uk, if we see a possible push for scotland to break away, for northern ireland to break away, if we see as we already are a major power vacuum in the united kingdom, prime minister david cameron basically out the door, pro-brexit leaders not saying anything so far about what their new government and what their new policies will look like, and of course the labor opposition party now resigning en masse. everything you see here does not portend well in terms of projecting an image of stability of a country that is focused on this next chapter of its future. of course, that is deeply concerning to the u.s. for all the many reasons that i just outlined, chris. >> christiane, feel free to shoot this down. you always do. but there is a petition that's going around right now with 3.5 million signatures to have a second referendum. legally speaking, this was a strange animal. cameron created this referendum vote. he is the one who made it binding.
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it's not necessarily concretized within united kingdom law. is there any chance of a second referendum? is there any going back? >> the leaders are basically saying no, but it is extraordinary. it's now 3.5 million plus. it started almost immediately the result came through. there's a lot of buyer's remorse. there's a lot of concern amongst the remainers, obviously. it's considered unlikely. but you're absolutely right. the parliament itself is in a bind because the majority of the british parliament want to remain. yet, are they going to go against the democratic will of the referendum? so this is all incredibly difficult. but i think what's really important at this moment is this was the most one-sided argument in recent history. every single major ally, major institution, scientific, academic, economic, business, the vast majority, the overwhelming majority, 99.99% of the argument was on the remain
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side. the leave side simply said, we just want to break free, we just want to control immigration, we want to get our country back, whatever that means. and now they're going to have to figure it out. that's what's fueling some of the fear. people are saying, okay, we did this, but what's the plan? we voted brexit, but what does out mean? those are questions that nobody can answer right now. >> clarissa, let's end on this. what are the main priorities for the u.s. going forward? >> the main priorities for the u.s. are to try to make sure that britain continues on a path of stability, try to calm down the markets, try to urge the united kingdom leadership on the brexit side, on the remain side to come together, to show united front, to show there is a plan ahead. as you heard christiane say, there is no plan. there is very little the u.s. or anyone else can do to change that until we hear from these
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pro-brexit leaders, all eyes on them now to take the leadership and to try to navigate the very uncertain and murky waters into this next chapter, chris. >> no matter where you are in the world, there's an immutable law of politics. it's easy to harness anger. it's very difficult to do anything with it once there's a mandate for change. christiane, clarissa, thank you very much. victor? >> back state side, hillary clinton is hammering donald trump over his reaction to the brexit vote. she's about to join forces today on the campaign trail with another fierce trump critic, senator elizabeth warren. cnn's senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is live in cincinnati with more for ur us. jeff, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this populist concern growing here in the u.s. is another reason that hillary clinton is eager to campaign alongside elizabeth warren today here in a key battleground state of ohio. it's also a moment for a bit of a tryout. this morning, hillary clinton
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and elizabeth warren to make their campaigning debut. testing their chemistry in cincinnati. cnn has learned the massachusetts senator is on a short list of potential running mates being vetted by clinton. a choice that could potentially excite liberals and bernie sanders supporters to enthusiastically back a clinton/warren ticket. warren has emerged as one of donald trump's harshest critics. >> a small, insecure money grubber. >> reporter: appearing with clinton as she prepares a new line of attack against the presumptive republican nominee. >> stocks tank around the world. >> brand new sprinkler system, the highest level. >> he's talking about his new sprinkler system. >> reporter: the clinton campaign releasing a new ad, slamming trump's response to the uk split from the european union. >> in a volatile world, the last thing we need is a volatile president. >> reporter: trump touring his new golf course in scotland the day after the vote, calling the economic fallout a good thing for his business.
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>> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnbury, frankly. >> reporter: and comparing the outcome of the brexit referendum to the same momentum that's carrying him to the gop nomination. >> people want to take their country back. so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i've done so well in the polls. >> reporter: while rallying support on sunday from the nation's mayors meeting in indianapolis, clinton cautioned against a trump presidency. >> bombastic comments in turbulent times can actually cause more turbulence. >> reporter: now, all this comes as clinton is leading in the polls. two weekend polls showing a bit of a conflict. the nbc news/"wall street journal" poll gives her a five-point advantage. the abc news/"washington post" poll shows her with a 12-point lead. in any case, they're campaigning as though it's a close race, and it is indeed one. that's why hillary clinton is back in ohio for the third time in two weeks' time.
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but this time with elizabeth warren at her side. alisyn, elizabeth warren is only one name. there are other names being considered as well. first and foremost, tim kain, the democratic senator from virginia. >> jeff, thanks so much for all of that reporting. so can hillary clinton capitalize on the brexit vote? or will it help donald trump? we explore that next. you pay your car insurance
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britain's historic eu exit vote becoming a campaign issue here in the united states. hillary clinton criticizing donald trump in this new ad. >> every president is tested by world events, but donald trump thinks about how his golf resort can profit from them. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnbury. >> stocks tank around the world -- >> brand new sprinkler system, the highest level. >> -- he's talking about his new sprinkler system. >> in a volatile world, the last thing we need is a volatile president. >> still, many pundits believe trump will have the upper hand if the wave of nationalism continues to be a motivator for
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votes. so for more, we welcome former new york city council speaker and clinton supporter christine quinn, and cnn political commentator and former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. why did trump choose to talk about what brexit meant for his golf resort rather than the world? >> it's not about b whwhat it m for the golf resort but people who want to travel around the world. if you're going to spend money in europe, now would be a good time to go with the fall of the pound. >> right, he talked about tourism. he was talking about what it would do -- it'll be a good thing for turnbury. was that the right note to strike when, you know, global markets were having this tumultuous moment? >> you have an international businessman, someone who has experience doing business in multiple continents. what you have is a world view. you have someone who's saying, look, let's look at this. from the u.s. perspective, if you want to travel overseas, just from a monetary perspective, now is the right
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time to do that because what you're getting is more for your dollar going over there. what we're talking about potentially, long term, is parody. dollar for pound, one to one. that could happen. if that's the case, that's good for the u.s. if you want to make investment overseas. >> that's the silver lining. christine? >> i think corey was watching a different press concernference,. b, donald trump is not running to be travel agent of the world. he's running to be president of the united states. what he actually said wasn't a commentary on international markets. it was when the pound goes down, measure people will come to my golf course. that's specifically what he said. i think what it speaks to is that donald trump's main concern isn't the international markets, isn't the impact that brexit will have on hard-working americans' 401(k)s, it's himself, how can he make more money, how can he put more money in his bank account. >> corey, do you understand that interpretation? lots of people felt that he was emphasizing more what would be his own profit rather than the
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ramifications for the global market. >> sure, i understand. but what you have to look at is 17.6 million people voted to extract themselves from the european union. now, people are saying it was a mistake. i don't think 17.6 million people made a mistake. i think they understand that you have a giant bureaucracy over there with the eu. the people of britain were tired of it. they were sick of the way the establishment was set up. they've used their voice, just like what we see here in this country. people are tired of a bloated, broken washington, d.c. we see that every day with 14 million votes for donald trump in the primary. very similar to what took place over in europe. >> i want to read what trump tweeted out on this note. basically, he responded to hillary clinton's ad, and he said, clinton is trying to wash away her bad judgment call on brexit with big-dollar ads, disgraceful. does it suggest that hillary clinton, because she didn't see brexit coming, as many politicians didn't see it coming, but she doesn't have her finger on the pulse of the anger and the nationalism that trump does? >> i think, you know, trump touting that he saw this coming,
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a, first of all, is ridiculous. when he was first asked about brexit by the press, he didn't appear to know what it was. and again, what we need here is leadership that's focused on the needs of the american people, not a man who sees every moment of international turmoil to promote himself, his golf courses, and his sprinkler systems. being president of the united states isn't about yourself. it shouldn't be about donald trump's industries. it should be about the people of america and the world. and we're seeing americans losing their 401(k)s. the money they worked their lives for so they could have the american dream and retirement. and he seems to completely not see that impact at all. >> corey -- >> here's the difference. the obama administration, the clinton administration have gone out and said, you can't do this, people from europe. you must stay in the system. it's just like what they have here in this country. >> that's not at all what was said. >> the elite continue to tell
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everyone, particularly the hard working men and women of their countries, what to do and how to vote. you know what, there's a revolt. people are too smart. they're tired of being told what to do. the hard working men of our country and the hard working women of our country, just like we saw in britain, they want to have their voices heard. i know the political elites don't like it, but there's a reckoning coming. it's going to come in november when the american people finally take back their country and not the political elites. >> first of all, take back your country in america, we are a country. that's a buzz word and a buzz phrase against immigrants, just as we heard donald trump say when he was standing there in scotland that we should be able to pick who's appropriate to come into our country. that is not america. as christiane amanpour said so clearly, we heard great slogans in brexit, amazing, amazing promises. no plan. huh, who does that sound like? a guy who's good at slogans, a guy who's good at making promises, but has no plan on how to deliver to make this country
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move forward for working american men and women. >> one more thing i want to ask you about. there is a long tradition in this country of when politicians go abroad, not trash talking the u.s. or the u.s. president or even their fellow candidates, and donald trump broke with that on friday. he did say negative things about the president and hillary clinton and the country. why do you think that he broke with that tradition? >> it's about authenticity. what you have with hillary clinton is she's put an ad out which is completely false. donald trump was not playing golf. >> he was there for a golf resort. >> and he did talk about sprinklers. >> he put 200 million pounds of his own money into a resort to help. his son oversaw that project. he went out to support him. one night overseas to show support for his family. i find it hard to believe he's being criticized for supporting his family for rebuilding a course. >> no, i'm asking why he would criticize the president for being there. >> the president was very clear about this. if the people of britain vote to
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extract themselves, they'll be put to the back of the line. it was a falsehood. it was a scare tactic. the people of britain were too smart for the president, and they were too smart for hillary clinton because they couldn't see what was taking place overseas. >> the trump campaign is re-creating this visit, making it an exclusively family moment. the trip was put out on campaign stationary. you can't have it both ways. you can't just have had a family visit and take the entire presidential press corps, put it out on campaign stationary, and then when your candidate says something that is inappropriate and unhelpful and divisive, walk it back and say it was just about his son. and president obama never said that. just as donald trump has the right to say what he thinks about international issues, so does the president of the united states and the democratic presumptive nominee. >> who was secretary of state who says she has a better understanding of world political affairs than anybody else. she couldn't see this vote coming?
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she couldn't understand that 17.4 million people wanted to be out of the european union? this is a person who prides herself on being an expert in international affairs and couldn't understand what was taking place. it truly calls into yquestion hr ability to understand what's taking place. >> donald trump on one hand is running to be travel agent of the world. now he's running to be the best pollster of the world. wi what secretary clinton spoke of is what she believed the impact of brexit would be. elected officials are supposed to be leaders, not people who put their finger in the air and say what they believe voters are going to say. what have we not heard from donald trump? what is he going to do now? what would his plan be if he was president to save american 401(k)s? we haven't heard that because that's not his concern. >> what he said was, you don't have to listen to me because it's not my decision. he didn't weigh in like hillary clinton did and like barack obama did saying you can't do this. >> because they didn't know what it was. >> he said you can do it because you decide on your own what the
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right thing to do is. >> and now what does he want to do for americans? >> on a completely separate note, corey, i wanted to quickly ask you, there's been a lot of reaction to cnn hiring you as a contributor. i don't know if you've heard about some of the reaction. turns out not everybody is a fan of the decision. i think that the crux of that, criticism, is that you never seem to be a big fan of the press or to have much respect for the press. why did you have such strange relations during your time there at the trump campaign with the press, do you think? >> i don't think that's true. i think what you have is if you look at the individuals i work closely with on a day-to-day basis, we had great relationships. i had great relationships with the media. those individuals who agot to know me the best, individuals on your set here earlier today -- >> sure, just not the people you said were blacklisted if they got out of the pen. >> there are rules to follow. the rules were very clear. the designated media airs are
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the designated media areas. we ask people to respect those rules so the people coming to the trump rallies would have the opportunity to listen to what mr. trump said when he was on stage. the rules are simple. as long as the media was in the designated media zone 15 minutes before he got on stage, and after he was done speaking, they were free to go wherever they wanted. the people have to wait four and five ours in line. they need the opportunity to listen to him. i think those rules are fair. i love everybody. i love you, right. are you kidding me? >> well, i'm lovable. >> love is a strong word this early in the morning, corey. >> i'm a very emotional person. the bottom line is i have a great relationship with the press. i have a lot of friends at all the networks. that's the truth. i've been so lucky to interact with the press as much as i have. doesn't mean i always agree. doesn't mean i'm always going to agree. i'm a person who's going to call it the way i see it. if something is out of line, i'm going to tell people that. >> corey lewandowski, great to get your perspective. christine, thank you. let's get to victor.
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you may be living in the u.s., but your eyes better be on the uk and the global market. the turmoil in the wake of the brexit vote is real and continuing. now, what can we see in terms of the economic impact and for how long? christine romans, cnn's chief business correspondent, is here. good to have you both. christine, it ain't over. it's just starting. and it's getting worse. >> it is. we're watching the pound get weaker and weaker, the dollar stronger again. we're watching european stocks, now down more than 1.5%. this sort of day two. on friday, you saw the free fall off the cliff. we thought maybe things might stabilize a bit. now you have paris down 2%. frankfurt down more than 2%. london zeroing in on 2%. still a lot of concern about the
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profound, profound change that is coming. you can't even chart it out. markets hate uncertainty. when there's uncertainty, that hurts confidence. when there's not confidence, you don't build new plants. you don't hire new people. you don't invest. you don't create jobs. that is the cycle we're in right now, the concern about what that's going to look like. >> the other side will say temporary. this achieved what it was supposed to do. they took their country back, globalization had counted out the working class there. the eu had squeezed out the sovereignty and made the uk vulnerable to an onslaught of undesirables coming into their country. is that part of the truth as well? >> not really. i mean, you know, migration has been one of the reasons that britain has always performed relatively well compared to any number of other european countries. clearly there's been a lot of anger. there's a huge trust gap between elites. i think that's why the markets
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missed this vote. government officials both in the uk, europe, and the u.s. did not think this was going to happen. the problem is the leave contingency doesn't really have solutions to the economic problems that are facing the uk. the worry now is the ripple effect throughout the rest of europe. you're already getting the northern irish, the scotts, saying, hey, we want to stay in the eu. we may break apart from the uk. on the continent, you've got far right-wing politicians in the netherlands and france calling for their own leave votes. if this starts to be part of a further balkanization of europe, which is america's largest trading partner, that could be a big deal economically for us. and it's also going to push up the dollar. you think that sounds good, the dollar becomes a safe haven. that starts to penalize our export companies, our trading sales abroad are weakened by that, not to mention the fact that if europe goes into recession, that would hit us too. >> one of the things trump is getting hit for is the immediate
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aftermath, he's like, great, pou pound is down, it's easier to travel. that's true on one layer, but over time, you end up reducing your economic activity because nobody has money to travel. other than this first wave of panic, what are we looking for second, third, fourth? >> we're looking to see if they soften this somehow, if somehow this divorces is more like a trial separation. what happens next? >> but you've got the big six from the eu saying let's get this done quickly. >> yeah, you know, you're worried about the dismantling of the eu in general. you look and see what happens to putin. markets are very curious. does vladimir putin get stronger? what does this mean in terms of that relationship? where is the american voice? the uk is our mouthpiece for that, is the american mouthpiece for that. what does it mean in this election? you have a voting class, a working class voter in the uk
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who says, i got screwed by globalization. 25 years of globalization. guess what, you hear that voter here in the united states too. >> help me understand this. if i'm the american voter and fit into this class of people who feels that globalization is all downside for me, rana, do i see brexit as the dream, which is i can make a difference, i can go out and vote and get my country back, or is it a be careful what you wish for cautionary tale? >> you know, i think you've hit the nail on the head. this is in some ways a protest vote. it's not so much that the folks that are voting to leave just as the folks who may be supporting donald trump here have particular solutions to the economic problems or the best solutions, but they're angry. some of the reasons for anger are legitimate. i think we've had 40 years of globalization in which the elites have often not been totally frank with the mass populations about what the implications are going to be. globalization has raised prosperity at a global level, but it's increased inequality in a lot of countries. i think we're living with the aftermath of that. i don't think that this is the
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end. i think that populism, we're going to see it in europe and possibly here at home too. >> rana, christine, thank you very much. alisyn? >> many top republicans still refusing to commit to donald trump. can trump win them over before the convention? we will ask a republican senator who's still on the fence.
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mayor's office, though cnn cannot independently verify that all the fighting has ended. israel and turkey striking a deal to normalize diplomatic ties. this agreement comes six years after ten turkish activists were killed when israeli commanders faced violent resistance in a raid on a ship heading to gaza. the deal calls for israel to pay $20 million in reparations and allows israel to keep the naval blockade of gaza in place. the pope says christians should apologize to gay people because they've been exploited or offended by the church. pope francis said not only gays but anyone marginalized by the church, including the poor, should be treated with respect. the remarks came the same day events were held around the u.s. to celebrate lgbt pride. no big surprise there from the pope. what is surprising is the reaction by not just some catholics but christians to what the pope said, denying him, decrying him, deriding him,
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saying this shows he's not a real christian. the pope, they say. that's how much people are tied to judgment. >> and the pope is saying he's just reaffirms what's already law. >> isn't forgiveness at the heart of christianity? he's just -- he's making it look easy. >> it even assumes there's something to forgive. his simple rule is love, mercy. >> all right. meanwhile, two new national polls show donald trump facing a growing deficit in the 2016 race. one of those polls shows hillary clinton with a double-digit lead. the other has clinton up by five points. can trump turn things around with three weeks until the convention? let's discuss this with republican senator mike lee of utah. he supported ted cruz and has not yet endorsed donald trump. senator, thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. >> are you ready to endorse donald trump? >> i have not endorsed him. you know, what i'm looking for in a presidential candidate is someone who's willing to endorse a reform agenda, a reform agenda based on restoring provisions of the constitution that i think
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have been any dpleneglected and. i feel so strongly about these things, i wrote a book about them. it's called "our lost constitution." i'm looking for a candidate who will embrace those things. i'd love to see donald trump embrace the restoration of our lost constitution. i think it would be good for everyone. these are principles that are not distinctively republican or democratic. >> your senate leader, mitch mcconnell, was asked if donald trump was qualified to be president. let me play you his response. >> do you believe he's qualified, and how do you convince all those voters who think he isn't? >> there's no question he's made a number of mistakes over the last few weeks. i think they're beginning to right the ship. it's a long time until november. the burden obviously will be on him to convince people that he can handle this job. >> i didn't hear you say whether you thought he was qualified. >> look, that'll be up to the american people to decide.
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>> doesn't sound like he thinks donald trump is qualified, or he would have said yes. >> i don't know. i never speak for a colleague. i tend not to think of the presidency as something that you're either qualified for or not. that really is up to the voters to decide. it's not like taking the bar exam if you're a new lawyer or becoming a licensed medical doctor. this is something that the american people have got to decide. in order for them to decide in his favor or in favor of any other candidate, he needs to come forward and explain what it is he wants to do for the country. >> isn't judgment a qualification, experience a qualification for president? did you think that his response, for instance, to brexit when he was in scotland, did that concern you? >> you know, i have not agreed with everything mr. trump has said. i think what's missing in his campaign is an agenda for what he would do. so separate and apart from what comments he's made, separate and apart from how people feel about him as a commentator on various
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events around the world, what people are craving now more than ever in a candidate is an agenda explaining here's what i'll do for the people, here's what's wrong with the government, here's what i would do to fix it. >> but you haven't heard him say that? >> i've heard him say some things i like. i loved his short list for the supreme court. i thought that was a good, bold step. i think that was probably the best supreme court short list i've ever seen. i'd like to see more things like that from him. i'd like to see him talking more about what he would do to restore things like federalism and separation of powers. the kinds of things that we've neglected in the constitution that i explain in my book. >> in terms of is he qualified, you say -- >> it's not really something we think of in terms of qualifications. the american people decide whether or not someone is qualified. they make that decision, i think, based on what prescription the candidate has for office. people are still waiting to hear what he would do in office if he
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were elected president of the united states. >> in addition to the book you have out, you've written an article for "the national review" that you call "what's wrong with congress?" where do you start? what's the answer to that? what's wrong can congress? >> the short answer to that question is congress has declined to do its job, and not in the way most people think. as i explain in my book and in this "national review" piece, congress has over the last 80 years or so decided to punt when it comes to law making. rather than making actual law, we'll pass some broad platitude and hand the rest of it over to an executive branch agency. we want to clean up the air, we say we shall have clean air, we hand it over to the epa the task of actually writing the law that decides what clean air is, what pollution is, and what happens to polluters. as a result, congress has through thousands of decisions over eight decades insulated itself from the policymaking process. this is a a problem.
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>> didn't we just see this with gun violence, they want congress to do something about gun violence, yet in the senate, when it comes up for a vote, the republicans all vote, the democrats proposals, against the republicans proposals. this isn't what the american public wants. >> this is different from what i'm talking about. this area, congress actually is moving toward passing legislation. in other words, the legislation that's discussing is actually a law. >> so you -- >> delegating to someone else. we haven't passed anything yet, but the point is, congress is debating legislative proposals, instead of debating things that would hand this decision off to an executive -- >> you believe in other words that something will happen with gun violence, you think you will have a compromised bill that congress will vote on and pass? >> i believe something could happen. what will happen remains to be seen. what i'm saying here is congress is having the debate on its own merits, whether to have a debate to hand it off to an executive branch agency. that's the debate we need,
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regardless of how it turns out. >> interesting article and interesting book. senator, thank you for being here. >> thank you. the pound is sinking. political leaders are resigning. the vote to leave the european union has left the uk in disarr disarray. we ask an independence party who supported the brexit. consumption of very acidic foods can wear away your enamel. your tooth is gonna look yellower, um more dull. nobody wants to have yellow looking teeth. i recommend pronamel toothpaste because it helps protect and strengthen your enamel. it's gonna make them more resistant to the acid erosion so that your teeth are not bothering you and you feel good about your smile. it's such a wonderful combination, it's pro enamel, it's good for your enamel, it's a positive thing. can give you ans advantage.gether like trubiotics with immune support advantage. its unique formula supports immune health in two ways. with probiotics that work in your gut.
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there is a lot of uncertainty going on after brexit, but certain things are certain. the british government is in turmoil after this vote to leave the european union. many in the pro brexit fending off allegations that they won on the strength of promises that they can't deliver on. let's discuss with ray finch, european parliament for the uk independence party. he joins us from brussels. what do you make from this baseline concern that the campaign for brexit harners the anger of people by making promises that now fall short? >> first thing, good morning, chris. what it is is that people are expecting everything right now. there are always negotiations in
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any period. there are always periods where the negotiations, i for one, many absolutely convinced and confident that we will have a situation where britain can move forward safely, prosperously and friends with our european neighbors. >> what is the concern, though, when you hear faraj, look at all this money we'll be able to dedicate to the nhs, national health service, and then for him to say, well, i never said that. i don't know what we'll do with the money. but we'll have money to play with, a feather bed that we didn't have before. that was a pretty fundamental under fitting. now it seems he won't be able to deliver. fair criticism? >> well, first thing, he isn't in a position to deliver. the delivery will be by the conservative government. however, you are misrepresenting the field perhaps in this elite
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what nigel actually said. he said we can spend more money, we can spend p some of these saving on the n hhs. it will be all the other things that come with that. we will be able to spend more on the nhs. we will be able to spend things on things that matter to its people. no question of that. however, as with all things, there is a sense that you need time to work it all out. that's all it is. >> do you believe there is a plan? time is always useful in you know what to do with that time. >> yes, yes. there are plans, but if you're sitting there playing poker, do you leave the other chap see your hand? no, you don't. >> but it's not poker any more. you've won the game, and people want to see what your cards are, right? you won the bluff game. the other side folded. you won with the referendum. now we need to see your cards and know what the plans are.
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>> no, no, no. unfortunately, chris, this isn't the case. we now have to work with the european union to get the best possible deal, both for the united kingdom and for the european union, as well as the wild of the world. as you are aware, the uk is the fifth biggest economy, if we don't get a deal that's right for britain, everybody suffers. we need to make sure we get the deal that's right for britain, because then everybody benefits. >> are you concerned about people coming to the reality that you were number five with the european union, and you'll now be negotiating deals on your own merits behind the european union? literally there is a little bit of moving down the cue to to speak? >> you're going back to where president obama, i do apologize, threatened that and said we would be back at the cue.
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frankly, that's wrong. we are the fifth biggest economy in the world. the eu spends eight years on a failed attempt to do a deal with india. we can do deals all across the world in much quicker time. we know that. you know that. i know that. what we will be is a much more agile all around the world and that could be good for everyone. >> mr. finch, when do you expect to see a settling down of this, and to see the pound sterling to recover? as you know, it is down in trading today. >> well, as you are aware, chris, obviously, when the currency goes up or down, it favors different people. at the moment, with it dropping, it is favoring our exporters, and i'm sure our exporters are very happy. at some point, we know for the last two years, the pound has been on a downward slope. at some point, things will change around, and as people believe that the pound is under
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valued, then they'll start to buy it again and then the pound will go up. the real one that you have to worry about is the eu. what will happen to the euro now. now that we have stopped paying so much money, or we will stop paying so much into the eu kof fe -- coffers. that will be in trouble. not the pound. >> a lot of uncertainty, questions to be answered. time will tell as they say. mr. finch, thank you for making the case. >> always uncertainty in life. thank you very much indeed, chris. take care. >> be well. what's going on after the brexit vote, a lot of uncertainty, new information and questions. we have it, let's get to it. britain is in a political mess right now. >> active self-harm. >> the fallout for brexit is not going to be painless. >> this could be potentially unravel the united kingdom. i think you're going to have
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this happen more and more. >> bombastic comments in turbulent times cause more turbulence. >> heavyweights so fed up with trump, he says he is leaving the party. >> hit a cord, people are tired of incompetence. the terrifying moment a plane catching fire after an emergency landing. >>announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. that video was terrifying of that plane on fire. we're happy to report that people survived that. but we'll explain how. >> the silver lining, it happened after landing and not midair. you have, what's the frightening part, you're still trapped in the tube. >> and waiting for help. >> we'll get to that story shortly. good morning, welcome to your "new day," it is monday, june 27th, 8:00 in the east. we've got victor blackwell here all week. >> good to be here. >> after enthusiastically making
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their case, top backers of the brexit movement are backing off some of their biggest promises. european markets tumbling. wall street looking at another rocky session. let's begin with nic robertson, live in brussels, where secretary of state, john kerry is this morning. good morning, nick. >> reporter: yeah, good morning, alisyn. meeting with with the eu foreign policy chief, he is walking into a situation here where on the one hand, united states and secretary kerry said it yesterday in rome, that united states has a good relationship with the european union. that's going to continue. nothing will change there. also, that the united states has a special relationship with britain. that's going to continue. nothing will change there. but he is walking in between, if you will, britain and the european union, the european union has a history of mistrust a little with britain over the
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way it negotiates. right now, the european union leaders are saying that britain must begin its negotiations to exit the european union soon. britain on the other hand is saying hold on. we need more time. we're in political turmoil. secretary kerry is walking there saying the most important thing right now, stabilize the markets. this is what he said. >> the most important thing is that all of us as leaders work together to provide as much continuity, as much stability, as much certainty as possible in order for the marketplace to understand that there are ways to minimize disruption. there are ways to smartly move ahead in order to protect the values and interests that we share in common. >> reporter: so secretary kerry is going to hope that he can perhaps smooth over some of the water that is going troubled between britain and the european
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union. meanwhile, in britain, it is political turmoil. david cameron said he is stepping down, there is no political leader. the prime minister has no effective power. the leader of the opposition is being challenged at the moment, at the same time, you have the leader in scotland saying she will go for a second independence referendum, and separate scotland from the rest of britain, and then keep it joined to the european union. it is political chaos in britain. little wonder it is not moving quickly. but that doesn't help the situation here in brussels, where they want britain to get on with what they say it is committed to. victor. >> nic, thank you from the political chaos there, to the economic fallout the british pound slumping to a new 30 year low against the dollar, as global markets are bracing for another rocky day. allis allison kossick is live at the stock exchange. >> it looks like the breks freak out not over yet. not as bad as friday, though.
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let's go to london where the main index has fallen about 2%. not as much as the last session. we're watching stocks in paris and frank for tfort. investors rushed into the yen, that's a japanese currency, other markets in asia, they finished higher as well. buckle up, the losses, not any where near the 600 point drop on friday, but get ready for a rough start. the dow could fall another 100 something points when the opening bell rings in about 90 minutes from now. that's as we watch investors as they put their money into safe haven investments, like gold and government bonds. the upside for homeowners, britain's choice to leave the eu could make interest rates lower. if you're invested in the stock market, you have to have a strong stomach. on friday alone, $2 trillion global wet went poof.
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the suggestion, i would say wait a week or two before you take a look at your 401(k). >> some volatility, not unusual, but if this is one of those tipping point factors that points to a recession in the u.s., then we have a much different discussion. thank you very much. the political landscape here, hillary clinton finding a new line of attack, hammering donald trump over his response to the brexit vote. clinton, teaming up today with senator elizabeth warren to take on trump on the campaign trail. we have cnn washington correspondent, jeff zeleny, live in cincinnati. what are you seeing, my friend? >> reporter: chris there are few people who have gotten under donald trump's skin more than elizabeth warren. hillary clinton, from afar, has been very impressed by this. but today, for the first time, these two will campaign together. she is on her short list, but not the only one. this morning, hillary clinton and elizabeth warren to make their campaigning debut. testing their chemistry in
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cincinnati. >> thank you. >> reporter: cnn has learned the massachusetts senator is on the short list of potential running mates. a choice that could excite liberals and bernie sanders supporters, to enthusiastically support this ticket. >> a small, insecure money gr grubber. >> reporter: appearing with clinton, as she appears with a new line of attack. >> stocks tank around the world. >> brand new sprinkler system. >> talking about his new sprinkler system zvlgts the clinton campaign releasing a new ad. >> in a volatile world, the last thing we need is a volatile president. >> reporter: trump, touring his new golf course in scotland the day after the vote, calling the economic fallout a good thing for his business. >> when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turnberry, frankly. >> reporter: and comparing the outcome to the referendum to the
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same momentum that's carrying him to the gop nomination. >> people want to take their country back, so i think you're going to have this happen more and more. i really believe that. it's happening in the united states. it's happening by the fact that i've done is well in the polls. >> reporter: while rallying support on sunday from the nations mayors, clinton warned against it. >> turbulent times can actually cause more turbulence. >> reporter: now, all of this comes as clinton is leading in the polls, at least a pair of weekend polls. the nbc/"wall street journal" polls gives her a 5 point lead, the "washington post," 12 points. the brexit referendum certainly reverberating here in the u.s. as well. that's why the clinton campaign not taking anything for granted. why she is campaigning in ohio, of all places, with elizabeth warren, guys, one other person we should mention, tim kaine,
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the democratic senator from virginia, he is also high a top that list as well. >> all right, jeff, keep us posted on that list, thank you for all of that. joining us now to talk about brexit and so much more, the host of cnn's fareed zakaria gps. where are you on brexit? what concerns you the most? >> where does one begin. for the united states, it is a disaster. as chris pointed out, you have real prospect of a resession, not just the united states, around the world. that's why markets are tanking. britain is the fifth largest economy in the world. we've had about seven years, which is the -- >> why leaving the eu cause us to have a recession? >> because they're the largest foreign investor in the united states, one of our largest trading partners, and what it does is stop economic activity. if you are a company and deciding whether to build a new factory in britain, are you going do it now when you're not sure they cancel into the
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european union which has tradition thatlely been their biggest market. a huge concern for the united states. when we did iran sanctions, britain was right there, helping make sure that the european union came on board. that was yeah the sanctions worked. because the european union stopped buying iran's oil. when we want to confront putin over ukraine, britain was right there. they've been the voice of the united states in europe. it is the largest market in the world, larger than the united states. all that is now in doubt. if britain breaks up, to give you one example, scottish referendum seems likely, britain's nuclear deterrent is in scotland. what happens? you know, all of this is now up for grabs. so it suddenly seems you're living in a much more uncertain world than you were one week ago. >> the follow-up then is if the uk has pulled away from the table, who is the closest
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ideologically, who is strong enough, the next ally to be in room. >> the dutch, britain is the fifth largest in the world. no one can replace britain in europe. europe will now increasingly be a german dominated operation. i don't say that out of any fear. i don't want to conjure up historical things, but it has a different perspective. britain is a great, a reason we always talk about the anglo american world. britain and the united states share a mind set. share an interest. it is the first call any president ever makes when you're trying to assemble a global coalition, whether the iraq war, afghanistan, every other war since world war ii. you call 10 downing street the brits are there with us. >> what resonates most, aside
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from the economic realities is the notion of taking your country back. that's what trump has started to hammer now, getting on message here, which is what this was supposed to be from him -- for him from jump. how does this play out to you? >> it is not just happening united kingdom. it is happening in the united states, it is also happening in other european countries. the most interesting divide in the brexit vote has been generational. so that if you're under 30, i think 75% of the people voted to stay in europe. if you're over 60, something like 75% voted to leave europe. i think the numbers may be slightly off, but that's a basics divide. that tells you a lot. there is an older generation of people who feel as though they have not prospered from this economic boom. they are watching their country most importantly, they're watching their country be quote-unquote taken away from them by hoards of people who look, sound, feel different.
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>> sounds familiar. >> yeah, and that's -- that piece of it is very familiar. it's happening all over europe. look, this is the big new divide in the world i believe. it is -- and certainly in the western world. it is not left versus right. look at somebody like trump. is he right wing, left wing, no. it is do you believe in an open world or closed world. do you believe in an open economy, do you believe in immigration or do you view these things with suspicion. you want to close down, more control, more sovereignty. that's what the brexit vote is about. that's what trump is bp. it is not a surprise to me that he sell bra he sell bra he sell brats those forces. >> donald trump saying again they're taking their country back. the statement we saw from the clinton campaign did not mention that anger, did not mention the frustration. we saw her address it at the council of the mayors over the weekend. but i wonder if going into the next phase of this campaign, if the campaign wakes up and said
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we need to make a change, or if they only list it as this was a mistake for the uk. >> i think it is a good question, and i don't know. i'm not enough of a campaign operative to know. i can tell you from a public policy point of view, the clinton administration -- the clinton campaign handled it right. this is truly a seismic event taking place. it could tip economy news recession. it could uncouple the united kingdom itself, a 300 year olden ter price. in that context, to be serious, sober, responsible. tapping into anger and pushing people's emotional buttons, that works for a day or two. but then you're left with the residue, the fallout of what you've done. i for one applaud the clinton campaign for not playing those games. okay, it's very easy to keep trying to tell people that you feel their anger, you celebrate it, understand it.
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but that sort of what has happened with this brexit vote. their responsible rhetoric for 10 or 15 years on the right in europe and now they're reaping the benefits. in many ways, many republicans are realizing the same thing has happened with trump. they're saying the country is being taken apart, and in comes trump and trump says i'll kick all the mexican out and you know, you can't encourage these forces too much. this is a grown-up moment. >> fareed, thank you. always great to have you on set with us. thanks for about being with us. ten people injured, after a california rally. look at the video here. a white supremacist group facing off with protesters. dan simon live in sacramento with the very latest. dan. >> reporter: well, hey, victor. a lot of adrenaline and anger on both sides. on the one side, you have this white nationalist group, they had a permit to rally here in
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sacramento. the other side, you had counter protesters who said they don't want hate to fill the streets here in sacramento, and just as this rally was set to begin, you had this group of counter protesters numbering in the hundreds in circle this white nationalist group, maybe about 30 or so people. that's when the melee broke out. the head of the group, the traditionalist worker party, they came armed with knives, because they were threatened on social immediate yeah. usually when you have situation like this, the police try to keep both sides apart. police are investigating. ten people injured. everyone is expected to survive. we don't know how many people were injured on each side. chris, we'll send it back to you. dan, thank you very much. we have something else. something you never want to see out of window of your plane. this. this is a passenger plane's engine and wing, bursting into
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flaming, singapore airlines made an emergency landing. boeing 777. having an engine problems, couple of hours into the flight into italy, and so they headed back to singapore. all passengers and crew are okay. >> okay, that's amazing. i mean, it's amazing they're all okay, obviously someone with their cell phone was shooting this while still on the plane. just incredible the pilot was able to make the right decision and get everyone down. >> beyond seeing it out your own window, imagine being on the plane next to and you're about to take off. >> stuck if a tube. that's the foam they use to put out the fires. all right, meanwhile, a rough few days for donald trump. can he right the ship with the convention, rapidly approaching. we'll explore all of that, next. pas pass
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21 minutes after the hour now. donald trump's campaign hitting a series of snags. slipping in the latest polls, and now the senate majority leader, refusing to give trump a full throated endorsement. cnn's fiphil mattingly joins us with more. >> a republican problem. one that has bubbled up, and it is becoming more acute by the day. listen to this. long-term conservative column nist george will officially out of the republican party, all because of trump. former bush secretary, hank
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paulson, pledging to vote for hillary clinton. the national security advisor to two gop presidents, doing the same. now, even republican officials who have fledged to support trump, they're not going out of their way to drag him out of the mess. take a listen to what senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell had to say. >> do you believe he is qualified? how do you convince those voters to think he is? >> well, look, no question that he has ma i had a number of mistakes over the last few weeks. i think they're beginning to right the ship. it is a long time until november, and the burden will be on him to convince people he can handle this job. >> i didn't hear you say whether you thought he was qualified. >> look, that is up to the american people to decide. >> now, trump advisor ares making clear, they believe the party is coalescing behind his candidacy. those who aren't, they should get out of the way. the question remains this. can he win without them. chris. all right, thank you very much, phil. senator elizabeth warren is
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joining hillary clinton on the campaign trail in ohio. how do they take on trump together. together, the keyword there. is this some kind of triumph. let's discuss with tammy baldwin, who has discussed hillary clinton for president. first the question, is hillary clinton, senator, qualified to be president? >> she would be one of the most qualified presidents we've ever had. if you look at her breadth of experience, first lady, secretary of state, representing state of new york in the united states senate, and all that she did frankly before she even got into the public spotlight, she is supremely qualified to be president and commander in chief. >> why didn't you say as senator mitch mcconnell just did, i leave it to the voters. it is not up to me to decide whether somebody is qualified to be president. >> those aren't inconsistent. we will be having an election in november, and the voters will decide no matter what i say. but my judgment about her
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qualifications is shared by so many who look at her depth of expertise. if we're looking for somebody with strong qualifications, both on domestic policy and foreign policy, we've got that in our presumptive nominee, hillary clinton. >> donald trump says well, look at breck it. she didn't see it coming. i did. i thought the vote would go this way. she thought they would vote to remain what does she know about foreign affairs. >> you know, i watched their response to this vote, and thought there couldn't be more of a contrast. you know, this shows how hillary clinton understands how this will affect our domestic policy in the united states, how stability uncertainty is in important to economic growth. she also understands and said as much that we stand with our strong ally, great brittan, and hope to work with them in
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figuring out a path forward that will provide the least instability possible. but trump sort of instant inclination to say, you know, isolate and think only of oneself, rather than looking at america as leaders in the world community. that's one of the major differences between the two of them. >> he also seized upon the power of the people, people who are angry and frustrated and there is a nuance. those aspects resonate back here in the u.s. do you believe hillary clinton has a grasp on the anger or frustration of the people in this country? and does she have something to offer them that's better than trump? >> without a question, she has, you know, the wealth of experience that we've just talked about. but a vision of how to breakdown
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the barriers of opportunity for every american to get ahead. and you know, while trump is building walls, she is trying to breakdown barriers. and that's been the key contrast throughout so i just think it is night and day. >> when you look at the issues specifically, let's take gun control, okay, you look at the polls, and you'll see these big fat numbers saying people want something to happen. doesn't that translate at the ballot box? it does not translate into law. why, and what can be done to change it to the extent you think it should change. >> well, first of all, the american people need a voice in all of this. that's what you really saw between the senate filibuster and the sit-in, the civil dis obedience that took place last week on the floor of the house. >> did it bother you the house went for the july 4th break. if they really cared, don't you think they should have continued
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to sit in. >> the republicans left. they flew home. the point was made and they'll return. i hope that they will keep up the pressure in whatever, you know, appropriate means they have. maybe even more -- >> do you think they can get anything done? do you think there should be a law change. >> let me just say this created more citizen participation in this issue than i've heard in a long time. the calls that we were getting in our office were extraordinary. our phones were ringing off the hook. people engaged with social media, as they do now to have their voices heard. but you have to realize that over and over again, we've woken up to these horrendous catastrophes, these horrendous mass murders, and nothing happens. our thoughts and prayers are not enough any more. we have to take action. the modest proposal bipartisan proposal in the senate authored by susan collins with a number
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of us joining in, has passed a procedural hurdle, and we need to insist that mitch mcconnell and paul ryan eventually schedule votes. so that the people's voice on this overwhelming majority of americans who support this common sense closing of the terror gap, so their voices are heard. >> they don't vote on it, though. that's what has contributed to the impasse. one last thing. pope on the a plane, not a joke, and he says lgbt, church position, what should we do. he was asked the question. he said ask for forgiveness from the gay community, because of how the church has mistreated them in the past. and other groups as well. what does that mean to you personally and from a policy perspective? >> to me, it means, well, first of all, just heart ended to hear those words. it means that he understands that leaders and people in authority, what they say matters. and if it is language of
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discriminatory nature or bullying, or hateful, it can also inspire crime, bullying, violence. >> pushed back and said he is not following what's in the bible. >> in the wake of orlando, i think this is a most appropriate thing to be said by the pope. >> the circumstances came before any other doctrine. >> pardon? >> the circumstances of orlando, you believe, militated in favor of this, despite any other disputes over christianity. >> absolutely. >> senator, thank you for being with us and making the case. >> thank you. the brexit vote and its ripple effect and the race for president here. who benefits. trump or clinton. that's next.
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who understand that bombastic comments in turbulent times can actually cause more turbulence. >> that was hillary clinton, blasting donald trump for a bombastic response, she said, to the brexit vote. but what will the impact of brexit be on the 2016 race. could it help trump. let's debate with our cnn political commentator and new york times op-ed columnist and ben ferguson, political commentator and host of the ben ferguson show. great to have you. ben, i want to start with you. were you comfortable with that presser that donald trump had on friday from his golf resort where he seemed to talk more about the implications for his resort, rather than the global implications of brexit? >> it certainly is not how i would have done a press conference. i don't think i would have made the trip to promote businesswise. he said he was there to support his son. it is far away from the election day, so overall, i don't think this will have any major impact
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on this election. i do think, though, that you really have to focus on everything that you're doing right now as a candidate to make sure that the optics are perfect for your election campaign, and this is one of those things where donald trump will say you know what, i'll be donald trump. i am a businessman as well. i'm going to support my family and this is not going to win or lose this election for me. >> did you agree with that, charles? that you know, no harm, no foul. he talked more about turnberry than he did the ramifications on the global market, but that's donald trump. >> i will agree with ben on this one point. i don't think people will show up at the polls, you know, in mississippi or michigan, thinking about brexit. but there is a negative here that is very real for trump. i have been blown away, taken aback by how clumsy he has been in the face of these kind of disasters, whether it be the pulse nightclub, or here with the brexit. all he has to do, perfect
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opportunities to take advantage of those things politically. not take advantage of a death or turmoil or volatility, but politicalty, to not be him, rise above him and not make the situations about him. he seems almost incapable of doing that, and that's what is required in order for you to present yourself as presidential. so although we won't show up thinking about i'm voting brexit or not brexit and how to respond to it, it does keep adding to the idea that he simply cannot be a presidential person. >> ben, charles seems to want donald trump to not be himself. i mean, isn't that what donald trump is, you know, consistently himself? do you see it as a missed opportunity, what happened after brexit, and orlando? >> i think messaging is where he usually misses opportunities, and i think when you saw the press conference he had earlier
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last week that was very clear and concise, on point, a lot of people loved it, saying hey, we need more of this from you. the question is does he alienate his core base if he goes cryp d scripted, if he uses a te teleprompter and focus in on his messaging. he is going to have to do that to turn the polls around and beat hillary clinton. there are big opportunities he has had that he has missed because of lack of messaging and focus. but one of the things you saw him saw about brexit for example is the fact that he said hey, these people understand, they're tired of being told what do by the political elite and tired of being told what to do by the european union. this is why people support me and america, and this is why my campaign is doing well. this is why i got the nomination. sticking with those points, i think, are not only -- they're not talking points. it is reality. that's why he is going to be the nominee. >> there you go. do you, charles, believe that in that way, brexit is a harbor,
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many of the themes are in play. the discomfort with immigration, all that stuff. >> right, but they're you are voting for or against an idea. now in america, you have to choose a candidate, right. you have vote for one of the two candidates if you're going to vote in this election. maybe you can write somebody in, you can write in an independent. but in general, we're going to pick between two people. what hillary clinton is doing, you know, also a surprisingly good job of being both on message and also the messaging itself has become more methodical. what had become -- what had always been her negative was the kind of robotic nature, methodical sensibility, she is now playing that up. if you pay attention to the way she now talks, it is even more methodical than it was before, because it is in contradiction to donald trump. so she is playing up this part of her, and so when he tries to be on message and do the same
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thing, he is a poor imitation of her. so it is a positive for her. >> what do you think about that, ben? she has turned this liability into assets, yes, you may not want somebody who is unpredictsed. >> it is an asset until you put them on stage. hillary clinton on stage, looking like a robot, compared to donald trump, having a real blunt conversation, that is when he is going to shine. i think this race is going to tighten significantly. he is one of the best debaters i've ever seen in politics. definitely the best trash talker i've seen in politics. when hillary clinton tries to go with talking points on stage with him, that's her vulnerability. that's where i think donald trump also fuels his own fire. he gets pumped up after the debates. he would come out and have four or five incredible days of campaigning. the closer we get to the debates with hillary and after the first debates happen, he'll be on fire going out with the american people and that's when people
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will really watch and decide, hey, who do i trust more, hillary clinton or donald trump. >> okay, ben, charles, thank you very much. let's go to victor. i want to take you to west virginia. you've seen the aftermath of flooding of historic proportions. the death toll is rising. believe this, more bad weather on the way. live report, next. ♪ ♪ the captivating lexus rc, with available 306 horsepower. this is the pursuit of perfection.
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more than two dozen people confirmed dead in these historic floods slamming west virginia. president obama declared a major disaster in the state, but it's about money and resources. the problem is going to continue with more downpours today. we have cnn's brinn, how are people not just dealing with what happened, but preparing for what's going to happen again? >> reporter: well, chris, to that point, they say it is like ptsd. they get an alert on their phone that says flash or flooding, and usually ignore it. this particular county, greenbrier saw the most deaths across the state. the devastation, it's just
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everywhere. i want to point out this house in particular. chris, this house isn't supposed to be here. actually residents don't know how it got here or where it came from. actually, they do know how it got here. it was floodwaters that pushed it here. among this devastation, there are also incredible stories of survival. >> oh, my god. >> reporter: as flames tore through homes, submerged in floodwaters, kristin felt helpless, hearing his neighbor scream for help. >> i kept hearing someone screaming for help, i told my dad, somebody is behind this house. i could just see her legs, hanging off from this tree here. >> reporter: they were trapped in the attic of his own home. the water, rising around them, they went into survival mode, creating a makeshift zip line and sliding across the river to safety zrchl safety. you tied a rope over here. >> yes, ma'am, right over here.
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i didn't know what was happening. these houses were on fire, and if we didn't get off there, we had a high risk of death. >> reporter: one of many stories coming from white silver springs, a community destroyed by flash flooding. homes were ripped off their foundations and twisted as if a tornado had blown through. others, charred. this one, ignited in flames and floated down the creek. >> you try to stay calm as much as you can because you know you're going to have to save your life. >> it brings you to tears, the devastation that we have. >> reporter: canine units continue searching for people. the historic greenbrier was set to host the next pga event. it is now canceled, as debris litters the golf course. >> as you go out on the golf course here and finding people on the golf course, finding bodies, it doesn't matter. i mean, we'll fix the golf course. >> reporter: as you look at this, as you can see, it is
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destroyed. a quick story about it. the woman who owns this house, she is pregnant. about to have a baby girl. hoping to bring the baby back here. obviously she can't. yesterday, she was here. she went into the house and the ultrasound picture of the baby, it's dry. sitting on the counter. so that was saved. so incredible stories coming out of here, but certainly as we approach today, the weather coming, there is fear of what is to come. >> oh, my gosh, just the devastation for all of those people in the homes. i can't imagine being pregnant. thank you for all of that reporting. well, this is the lawsuit that could turn the republican convention on its head. coming up, we will talk to the delegate who is suing so he does not have to vote for donald trump. we'll explain.
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welcome back. with anxiety growing over donald trump, nearly half of republican voters now want someone else as their nominee. that's according to the latest cnn poll. our next guest is behind a new lawsuit that's demanding that state delegates be free to vote as they wish. virginia delegate and attorney, bo correll. your lawsuit claims the state law that binds your vote to the primary results back in march is a violation of your first amendment rights. how so?
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>> well, there is a long line of supreme court precedent stating that in supporting the proposition that when it comes to private association, such as the republican party, we are not state actors, and therefore, not bound by state law. this is not to say that there is no binding at all. i think that party rules and the republican parties private association rules would apply, however, we're fighting this because we don't think that the government should be in the business of compelling and conside telling people how to vote. >> understood. the supreme court offers deferen deference to the state party, but it even binds your vote. even if your fight is with the party, as the rules are today, you still have to abide by the primary back in march, right? >> well, look, that's -- i think that's the heart of this issue.
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state law in several states, arizona is another one, and there is quite a bit others, including virginia, compels these delegates how to vote in the national convention. sometimes with penalties, like in virginia, there is potential jail and a fine. so we're fighting that tooth and nail. >> so there is a legal argument, and still a political fight as well. let's turn to the political fight. you were the co-chair in virginia's tenth delegate district i should say for ted cruz. >> that's correct. >> would you be making this argument if ted cruz had won the primary if he were the nominee? >> well, i think strong conservatives and those dedicated to philosophy are always hesitant of government overreach. here, there is clearly government overreach of the state government telling delegates how to conduct their internal affairs. you know, at this particular point, i'm not necessarily
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supporting ted cruz. i just want to fight this fight because i just can't under my conscience vote for donald trump. >> okay, so what do you say then to the more than 350,000 voters in virginia who chose donald trump, the more than 14 million nationwide, the 37 states who chose him, that you are allowed to now go to the convention and essentially ignore the will of the people, and vote your conscience without abiding by the rules that were in place before you joined the process? >> well, i disagree with that characterization. i think it is up to the private association to determine the rules of the members. some states, for example, tell their delegates to consider those votes as advisory upon the delegate and the delegates decisions. other states say that the party shall promulgate rules with regard to the allocation of delegates. now, those are more likely
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constitutional. virginia just says, you know, forget what your internal rules are. we as the state actor are forcing you, a private individual how to vote in this private election. i mean, you wouldn't consider this, i mean, you consider it very suspect, i would assume, if the state was trying to compel members of the association how to vote in their national convention. >> so vote -- >> it's the same principle. >> we're low on time, but let's say you're successful at the convention and just 20 seconds here, if not donald trump, then who? >> i'll keep my options open for that. but -- >> after the convention you've got essentially 15 weeks. >> well, i think there is a lot of people, it will be a lot better than donald trump that could mount a national campaign, because as we know right now, donald trump has failed at mounting a credible national campaign. >> you've mentioned there are
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potential fines, jail time. are you willing to face those to avoid voting for donald trump, quickly? >> i stand on the side of the constitution, the first amendment. >> all right. >> beau correll, three weeks away, thank you so much. >> a real pleasure. >> a quick break. thanks for joining us on "new day." "newsroom" starts with carol costello after this break. and feel it all... all summer long. jeep renegade -- it's how we live 4 by 4 summer. freshly made in the tokyo-japanese tradition, each batch is small. special. unique...
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and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. great brittain in turmoil, bracing for a big hit. set to rock stocks, world markets closing in the red. and at this hour, parliament confronts the crisis after a number of lawmakers in britain resign. some voters say they were duped into supporting the exit from the european union. john kerry rushes to shore up u.s. interests there as an ugly divorce looms. he is reassuring. donald trump and hillary clinton seizing on the divisions, and the fear. our correspondents are here to break it all down from the initial bombshell
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