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thank you so much. please be sure to join us tomorrow in "the situation room." i'm brianna keilar. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. ♪ ♪ "out front" next. the moment a suicide bomber enters an airport wearing a winter coat in summer and all signs point to isis tonight. an attack on american soil? director john brennan warning isis' threat to the homeland tonight. donald trump blaming hillary clinton for the rise of isis. let's go "out front." ♪ ♪ ♪ good evening. i'm erin burnett. "out front" tonight, the breaking news, the face of terror and the death toll rising this evening. our first look at one of the three suicide bombers who slaughtered at least 42 people and wounded 239 more at one of the world's busiest airports. these numbers have increased
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dramatically since we first told you about this attack. let me show you the new video. it shows the moment one of the attackers entered the airport in istanbul, shooting his way into the terminal. also tonight, we now know the exact location where all three bombers detonated their explosives. one in the departures area and one in the arrivals and one actually outside the airport in the parking lot. as you can see there on your screen. the fear that the next attack could happen on american soil was evident today. cia director john brennan said the threat is very real. >> it would be surprising to me that isil is not trying to hit us both in the region as well as in our homeland. we cannot rest at all. we have to increase our efforts. >> and while both american and turkish officials say isis is more likely to blame, the identity of the bombers is still a mystery tonight. ivan watson is on the ground at the airport tonight. how closer they to figure out who factually these men were and
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how they were able to pull off such a coordinated attack? >> reporter: we don't know exactly, of course, what the turkish officials have really come down to yet. the one turkish government official has told cnn that there is a strong suggestion that the three attackers are foreign citizens, but the investigation is still under way, and of course, challenged by the fact that all three attackers were suicide bombers and much of their bodies were damaged and destroyed in the actual blast, but the number one suspect, of course, here, isis. that's what the turkish government is saying. that's what other investigators are saying. this attack bore the hallmarks of an isis attack where you had three attackers moving with high-powered rifles in what appeared to be a coordinated attack. take a look. >> an urgent operation under way to identify the three suicide
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bombers who carried out the coordinated attack at istanbul's busy ataturk airport. [ sirens ] >> surveillance video capturing one of the men dressed in jean, hat and black winter coat despite temperatures near 80 degrees, and tonight officials revealing new details of the attack. the three terrorists arrived at the airport by taxi around 10:00 p.m. local time. within minutes, one of the attackers blows himself up at the entrance of the international terminal. amid the chaos, a second attacker enters the arrival hall and takes out his ak-47 and can be seen running through the terminal before apparently being shot by a security officer. he falls to the ground. seconds later, the terrorist blows himself up. >> we saw a lot of people running around. they were all covered in blood. >> security cameras captured the terror as a third attacker starts shooting. investigators say he panics and
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blows himself up outside a security checkpoint. >> the despicable attack at istanbul's international airport yesterday that killed dozens and injured many more certainly bears the hallmarks of isil's depravity. >> reporter: intelligence officials are pointing the finger at isis despite no one claiming responsibility. now more than 24 hours after the attack. investigators also interviewed and released the taxi cab driver, one of the last people to see the attackers alive. president obama promising to go after the terror network. >> we will not rest until we have dismantled these networks of hate that have an impact on the entire civilized world. >> reporter: and erin, sad development that we've learned in the last hour, the turkey's semi-official agency reports that the death toll has grown to
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42 now, a 22-year-old severely injured woman succumbed to her injuries in hospital, raising the death toll of this audacious and very deadly attack. erin? >> i've an watson, thank you so much. and our senior international correspondent clarissa ward has been working her sources throughout the day. clarissa, fingers are pointing at isis and the signs are there, but as of now no claim of responsibility. >> no. there has been no claim of responsibility, erin, but what is interesting is traditionally isis does not claim responsibility for the attacks that it has carried out in turkey. that may well be because they thrive on the uncertainty and instability that that ambiguity creates. it may be because they want to give themselves plausible deniablity and possibly blaming a kurdish separatist group and as we've heard from ivan and all u.s. officials today this is very much a case of all of the
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hallmarks appear to indicate this is an isis attack. so what are some of those hallmarks? let's go through them. first of all, as you heard in ivan's report, a sophisticated, coordinated attack. three attackers, not just suicide bombers, but suicide bombers, or inhamaze as isis calls them, they were firing shots trying to kill as many people as possible before the first bomber used one bomb to divert attention allowing a second bomber to move into the arrivals area. so there's a real sense that it was coordinated and also an important thing to note is we're in the last ten days of ramadan. this is the holiest period of the holiest month. we have heard calls from isis' spokesman muhammad abu al adnani calling on all supporters of isis whether directed by the group or whether they're inspired by the group to carry out attacks on soft targets just like this one, erin. >> all right. thank you very much, clarissa ward. out front now, former cia
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operative bob baer, and mitch silver, from the new york city police department, chris webb g swabbinger, and michael weiss, inside the isis of terror. bob, i want to show everyone this again. this is new video of one of the attackers because in it, when he comes in and we'll freeze it. you can see how he was dressed, okay? jeans, hat, black jacket. now, istanbul at this time of year that's a completely inappropriate way to be dressed, right? at that time it was about 80 degrees outside. you would have thought he would have stood out dressed like this? >> well, he did stand out. they shot at the guys. they were clearee out of place and remember, when these attacks are under way they happened very, very quickly. these people are trained. they are military-style assaulters. they don't let people time to think about it so they can insert themselves in and start
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shooting. this is very much a military-style attack and you ask the s.e.a.l.s or delta force or special forces and they'll tell you this is the way they do it. this is what's so scare bethey these people is they're getting training in syria and iraq and taking it against civilian targets like this. >> before they got to the airport, chris, we know they took a taxi cab and they get in and they have these guns that would not be concealable underneath the black jacket and they were dressed in thick, heavy clothes. you would have thought the cab driver would have noticed something? >> this is if you see something, say something concept. there is no way they could have gotten in that cab with the equipment they were carrying and the weapons they were carrying and the bulkiness and the clothes and not get noticed. so there is a breakdown there. maybe the cab driver was complicit. we don't know. not enough facts in at this point. >> whether it was complicit, threatened or didn't want anything to do with it.
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>> maybe didn't have enough time. as soon they're out of the taxi they're moving into the airport proper. even if you wanted to do something. >> but there is a perimeter the cars have to go through in security. it's not like an american airport and they pass through security with the taxi cab driver driving them, right? i mean, you know? >> with heavy weaponry in the cab. >> which is incredible. >> and they're wearing all this padding. >> what about this? they're wearing, you know, this thick, heavy jacket. >> yeah. >> as bob points out bob did notice someone was shooting at them and no one noticed quickly enough and when you think about it are you looking that closely around you to see whether anyone is dressed appropriate to the season. >> and the suspicion that these were foreign fighters or outside of turkey based on the fact that they've done forensic research or investigations within hours of the attack or perhaps they were speaking a foreign language in the taxi and the taxi has given that to the turkish security forces. i mean, look, i've crossed the
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border between turkey and syria. they've let people like me through and they've heavily interrogated syrian nationals with syrian passports. it's very easy to get your way through in that country. >> if you want to. >> if you want to. >> so, mitch, obviously the attacker, i want to show you one of these blasts. it's an important moment to show because it gives us clues about what happened. every time you see it you have to realize that people could have died at this moment. it is hard to watch. the bomber that you see does not -- appears clothed, but not weighed down. he's moving very quickly. it's not like what he has on is heavy enough that he can't move quickly. >> yeah, when i see that video i think back to 2008 and the mumbai attacks. the mumbai attackses were also the same type of military swarm or raid strategy. there were a number of individuals that were armed with long weapons and they also had explosive devices and they moved through the mumbai train station in a very similar way that you
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see these three individuals moving through the terminal of ataturk airport. they're shooting as many people as they can and ultimately, when they have no other choice then they're detonating themselves. so, but they're amped up. they're high energy at this moment and this is the same type of thing we saw in mumbai, as well and it's a different manifestation of that type of raid or swarm attack. >> you've got at least three guys and to the point, we don't know how many more people were involved if anyone else was planning to do this or chickened out. we don't have any information at this point. we know at least three and we know one in arrivals and one in departures. what does that tell you? >> it shows some planning and it shows that each had an individual mission and one was, i believe, hit the population or everybody as they came out of the airport and cued up outside the airport and one was getting inside the airport. >> do you think the parking lot may not have been a mistake. >> i don't think it was a mistake. otherwise he would have gone in
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behind the other attacker who went inside the terminal. >> it may be that he wanted to detonate against the first responders who were coming or just the crowd that would be gathering inevitably outside the airport, but it does show a lot of planning and those vests aren't that heavy. they can move pretty quickly. 40, 50 pounds and they're mini pipe bomb s strapped to their chest. >> u.s. cities in their crosshairs. how concerned are officials about attacks in america? donald trump tonight blaming hillary clinton for isis' rise. >> isis was formed during her tenure. isis is now worse than ever. you see what happened yesterday. >> an airport worker is picking up debris, washing away blood and passengers waiting to board their flight.
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see star trek beyond in theatres. breaking news on the terror attack at one of the world's busiest airports at this hour. the death toll has just gone up. 42 people now killed. a young 22-year-old woman succumbing to her injuries within the past hour. we now know that number has gone up to 42 dead, 239 wounded. tonight, the cia director is warning americans that a similar attack could happen here in the
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united states. >> in the united states, as we well know, is leading the coalition to try to destroy as much of this poison inside of syria and iraq as possible. so it would be surprising to me that isil is not trying to hit us both in the region as well as in our homeland. >> if anybody here believes that, you know, the u.s. homeland is hermetically sealed and that the -- that daesh or isil would not consider that i think i would guard against that. >> pamela brown is out front and pamela, pretty strong words there from the director. obviously, real concern and he's trying to make it very clear that isis could be in the united states. >> absolutely. you heard him say cia chief john brennan that these turk's, tacks should serve as a warning to the united states and it is not immune from a similar attack and
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while isis has not claimed responsibility it is viewed as the main culprit and it is more determined than ever to kill as many people as possible in attacks on the west as it continues to lose some of its territory in syria and iraq. he says while homeland security and intelligence measures have helped, isis continues to try to find vulnerabilities in soft targets. attacks on the west is sadly, the new normal. >> pamela brown, thank you very much. it's incredibly sobering and out front now, the democratic congressman, eric swalwell on the house intelligence committee. congressman swalwell, we spoke last night and you r been briefed again today. what are you learning at this hour? >> we are certainly on isis' terror wish list and right now looking at who is responsible in istanbul, we have to ask why isn't this isis? everything points to them. it's ramadan, the suicide vests and the manner of the operation as well as the location of an
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airport just as was used in brussels. that's what they're running the ground right now on, erin. >> you talk about attacks on the homeland, congressman. isis has posted a video threatening targets in the united states. it's a video that at first might appear to be a tourism video and it's tourists places in san francisco and it's specifically against san francisco and las vegas, golden gate bridge and the financial district. this is your state, california, san francisco. what more can you tell us? >> people are concerned, and right now isis has successfully been able to inspire individuals from their success to take actions in san bernardino and it looks like in orlando, and now the other question is can they move individuals into the united states? that has been much harder for them. that's to the credit of our airport security, the fbi and our national security efforts, but we are not sealed off from isis and we're not immune.
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>> you just heard john brennan say that anyone who thinks the u.s. is hermetically sealed, they should think again because it is not and the u.s. is in the crosshairs. a sobering warning coming from the cia director. often they say yes, we're worried, but we have it under control. that's not the message we're getting right now. >> yes. that's because so many have gone over to the battlefields in iraq and syria, and frankly, erin, they've gone through turkey and turkey has been a major problem because it is so easy to transit through turkey on to the battlefields and if they can come back with the lessons they've learned on the battlefield and increased hate for the west for americans and then we're really at risk. >> congressman, before we go, the cia director said preventing attacks like this in the united states is complicated. it's not that difficult to construct and fabricate a suicide vest. is there concern about suicide bombers like that here? >> well, al qaeda and other groups have publicly put out how
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you can get homemade, readily available devices and i will also just say that right now in america it's too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons and use firearms and explosives as was used in turkey. >> all right. thank you very much, congressman swalwell and thank you to have you on again, sir. >> chris. obviously, sobering words here from the cia director. pretty clear. what do you think that says about the intelligence that they have? >> very sobering. well, we know that we have at least a thousand isis-related investigations just in the fbi and that was about eight or ten months ago when director comey mentioned that, and then we have that whole dynamic of inspired, casting the seeds across this mass marketing thing called the internet. you only have to hit one or two out there and we saw what happened in orlando, almost 300 casualties and 250 casualties and one person. >> that's just terrifying. john brennan, with this warning,
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what do you think the purpose is of that that he's coming out and saying you can't seal the borders. we're not able to do that? >> well, i mean, john brennan doesn't go out in public and try to scare people. i know the man and i know the central intelligence agency so they're genuinely worried. this isn't a political statement and it's what we don't know that scares us and about making these devices, it's extremely easy. i can teach you in the morning and we could have a device by tomorrow morning that could take out jfk. it's very easy. it's on the internet. all of the stuff is available, and all, you know, the directions and it's not to keep the stuff from blowing up prematurely and that's what he's talking about and he's right to warn us. the cia is doing its best to infiltrate these groups, but frankly, they're true believers and psychopaths and virtually impossible and they've learned to stay off the air and not make phone calls. >> michael?
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>> look, i went through a bunch of the cases that they've managed to interrupt and isis inspired and some of them are white guys who converted to islam and would not be on the radar, but for the facebook postings and the jihadist rhetoric. a lot of them are looking to build pressure cooker bombs certainly like the ones the boston marathon bombers built and many are out to buy guns or shoot out a school or the military base and have combat experience and formal training. you showed an image of these guys in the airport. i would be very surprised if they were on some battlefield in the u.s. and the facility with which they were able to maneuver and the vulnerabilities to get in there and blow up three suicide bombs. this was a successful operation by isis standards, no question. >> so many of these have been disrupted and yet the cia director wants everyone to realize that he expects that
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something else will happen. >> i think there are a few reasons behind that. number one, we're approaching a holiday weekend and a holiday weekend with significance, july 4th and that is a higher level of threat. there have been threats and plots against u.s. airports in the past. al qaeda in the 1999 plot against lax airport that was thwarted. the gunman opens fire at lax and kills a couple of people. in 2007 an al qaeda-inspired attack against jfk and the fuel line here. airports have been the target in the u.s. and fortunately, they haven't been successful attacks and isis has had two weeks to do this. have they crowd surfed people or sending operatives, not necessarily with the middle east and it could be with training and iraq and they come to the u.s. visa and waiver-free.
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next donald trump on fighting terror and the nominee changing his tone on the muslim ban, but not budging on this. >> so we can't do waterboarding, but they can do chopping off heads. you have to fight fire with fire. >> plus the terrorists calling carr the attack terribly familiar to the destruction we saw in brussels just three months ago. our report. ♪but i'm not gonna let 'em catch me, no no,♪ ♪not gonna let 'em catch the midnight rider,♪ ♪yeaaahh... ♪but i'm not gonna let 'em catch me nooo♪ ♪not gonna let 'em catch the midnight riiiiiiiideer!♪
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breaking news, the death toll rising in the airport terror attack. we now at least 42 people were killed in istanbul and here at home both donald trump and hillary clinton wasted no time in responding. moments ago, donald trump speaking and blaming hillary clinton for the rise of isis. >> isis was formed during her tenure. isis is now worse than ever. you see what happened yesterday. you see what's going on generally. isis is looking strong. >> dana bash is "out front." >> reporter: the way the two presumptive presidential nominees are responding to turkey's terror attacks shows
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one of the starkest differences between them. >> isis is signing up people over the internet. they know how to use the internet better than we do and we do nothing about anything. >> reporter: donald trump is talking tough. >> we have to give them a big, fat, ugly defeat. [ cheering ] >> reporter: while hillary clinton is so measured that she didn't even deliver public remarks. in an unusual move, she only responded via paper statement saying the united states cannot retreat. cooperation is essential to protecting the homeland ask keeping our country safe. but the most explosive difference is their policies on torture. donald trump wants to waterboarding. >> can you imagine them sitting around the table or wherever they're eating their dinner talking about the americans don't do water boarding and yet we chop off heads. they probably think we're weak. we're stupid. we don't know what we're doing. we have no leadership.
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you know, you have to fight fire with fire. >> an approach clinton rejects. >> those are war crimes. >> as does former gop presidential nominee john mccain. >> if you're not into academics and history, is it doesn't work. >> a vietnam prisoner of war who knows firsthand about torture. >> it's not what we are all about. it's not what we are. it's not about them. it's about us. >> still, trump's renewed call for waterboarding comes as he is softening another controversial policy from the primaries. >> a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> reporter: now he's limiting that to countries with known terror links. >> i will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of
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terrorism against the united states, europe or our allies. >> reporter: a new, pew poll of ten european countries shows only 9% say they have confidence that trump would do the right thing regarding world affairs, but more important for trump is, of course, what american voters think and a new "washington post" poll shows people trust clinton to handle terrorism more than trump 50% to 39%, a bigger lead for clinton than last month when it was 47% to 44%. >> this approach isn't just wrong. it is dangerous. >> remarkable in that fighting terror is usually a republican advantage in presidential elections which trump is trying to reclaim, tweeting today, isis exploded on hillary clinton's watch. she's done nothing about it and never will. not capable. >> trump and clinton's huge differences about how to confront terrorism fit into the overall larger, very stark
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choice for voters. do they want a president who will bring a shoot from the hip approach or do they want someone more cautious, running on her experience and that's what voters have to choose from. erin? >> dana, out front now, jason osborne and hillary clinton supporter, the executive chairman of the new york state democratic party and david gergen, former advise to rig reagan and clinton. now he's trying to say countries with known links to terror. fine, he's walking that back. the problem is that would not have prevented the bombers with belgian and french passports to coming to the united states. is he going to really stick with the specific countries or not? because he seems a little bit inconsistent here in this change. >> you would have to ask him personally what he's going to stick to, but all i can assume is what he's talking about is the visa program, that a lot of
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people don't quite understand that we have currently quotas on different visas coming from various countries. so if you're coming from a country that is traditionally not a threat to the united states, you're going to have more visas available to that country. so when donald trump is talking about this, i'm assuming that that's the program he's talking about in saying, you know what? we need to take a look at how the visas are given out and we have to make sure we're doing our due diligence and make sure there is a program in place so that when we reinstitute this program that these folks are not a threat to the united states. >> david gergen, do you think he'll be able to walk this back? because there is a huge inconsistency, right? because those individuals would not be stopped and those are be belgium and france. in the statements and the response to turkey and that he doesn't really come to grips and
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he treats them more rhetorically and i think these attacks on turkey do play into his hands and they gave him the opportunity. and voters are looking for a tougher, more muscular response, but this is a moment to be -- when you really can step up to be presidential and when you can have a five-minute written out statement that really goes to the heart of the matter and how we' well are we doing against syria and iraq and there is a statement that withtheir own state department there are diplomats that we learned recently think we're not tough enough. this is the time when donald trump could make a more persuasive argument for why his policy choices would get us further and instead he's going back to being the ultra. >> to david's point, the way he's handled this has certainly, by the polls, played to his ways, right?
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after orlando, he tweeted i called it when he talked about his muslim ban although that young man was not an immigrant. he accused president obama of being weak in brussels and orlando in scathing terms. said hillary clinton wasn't capable. that is not hurting him. the most recent poll and one of them that we have here, he beats hillary clinton by 13 points on handling terrorism. >> and there are other polls that say she would beat him handily. just because donald trump opens his mouth doesn't mean there's anything constructive that's coming out of it. >> number one, are you concerned that he's resonating with people? >> i'm concerned that he's speaking to people's fear. hillary clinton over a year ago had been talking about this very issue and she said you have a choice between fear and resolve and she's talked about ways that we can go after isis and ultimately what americans want is yes, they want a response that addresses their concern and not necessarily their fear, but their concern about security and safety and has a plan to move
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forward. i don't hear that coming from donald trump. i just hear more of the same. when he's talking about waterboarding and intimating that he will decapitate the heads of our enemies. >> are you concerned that he's gone back to waterboarding and that's the old trump? that's the old trump? to say he wants to water board? >> no. i think what donald trump is actually speaking to bazel's point. he didn't say chopping off heads. he said that's what ice sis talking about. i'm not concerned about that at all and my hope is that with the next president that we are able to sit down with the military leaders and not broadcast what we can't do, but actually within the laws that we have here in the united states and within the international laws do some things that actually put the fear into these folks that they won't come after us. >> so, david, hillary clinton, what's interesting here and the difference in their response is it's not just the tone and how they talk differently and she didn't physically say something
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about turkey and she put out a statement as dana said, very unusual and then she held a town hall and she talked about donald trump, the economy, bernie sanders, cyber bullying and revenge porn, okay? those are things she talked about. she did not talk about a terror attack in which 40 people lost their lives. was that a mistake? >> yes. i understand why she wanted to put emphasis in silicon valley and bring technology into homes and that's all very appropriate, but she could have prefaced those remarks by saying something about turkey and her most important calling card for most americans is her time as secretary of state so they're looking to her for what would you do? instead she not only responded in muted terms, but she didn't take it on. in some ways, i do feel, erin, that this turkey attack is being treated by the u.s. government as they just keep coming and coming and coming and we have other things we're worried about
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like brexit and it's not at the top of their agenda and the urgency about this is not at the top of the agenda. >> my fear and concern is that a lot of what hillary clinton has discussed even in her foreign policy speech a couple of weeks ago is also being overlooked. the fact that she has talked about working with our allies. donald trump talked about taking nato apart and turkey happens to be one of our nato allies. so if we're not working with countries like turkey and others and we've pulled apart nato how are we going to fight terror on a global scale when we have no cooperation with other countries? that's sort of isolationist approach is what hillary clinton has been saying does not work. >> big picture, but nothing specifically about turkey. thanks to all three of you and next, amid the death and destruction, istanbul's airport is up and running. you see there the glass from an explosion. they're fixing it as people are walking by to board their flights. plus the united states is stepping up security at airports across the country tonight as isis is promising more attacks.
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of the suicide bombers entered the airport in istanbul. you can see the terrorists running through the terminal. he's firing his gun from the shoulder and then from the hip. already today it is business as usual in that airport. taxis lining up, passengeris arriving. nima elbagir is there. you've been in the areas that were most damaged and closed off. you were in there and what did you see? >> reporter: well, it was as we arrived this morning and to be honest with you, it felt more like a construction site than the site of a recent terror attack. there were men trying to put panes of glass back into place and there were attempts to put ceiling tiles back into place. it was almost a papering over of what this place had seen and what the people here had seen and even through that hiftly erected first sign of normality you could glimpse what it must have felt like to be here as
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this was all unfolding. at the primary destination site where the first attacker exploded his bomb, i managed to see through where the barricades were being put up and the tarmac was rippled with the force of the explosion. that gives you's sense of the explosives and they were still hosing down the blood from the night before, and even as that blood was being washed away you started to see passenger passen. the airport was open and they were making their way through those doors behind me to try and catch their flight. it was absolutely the ultimate human triumph over what the perpetrators had tried to achieve. the reality is that turkey is all too familiar with putting the pieces back together in the aftermath of terror attacks. this is only the latest in a string of them. these cracks are there and you don't have to look very hard to see them. >> absolutely just shocking and i think the triumph and so disturbing that the blood is
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being washed away while people are boarding their flight and it's hard to comprehend this juxtaposition. this attack and the brussel attack just three months ago are terrifying. miguel marquez is out front. >> reporter: the plan of attack on istanbul's airport seems ripped from the pages of the attack on brussels. [ speaking foreign language ] >> in both attacks, three bomb-toting terrorists all arriving by taxi and all targeting the main internatial terminal. >> i just heard these screams. i turneded around the corner and there was this wall of people running towards me, tripping over themselves, police with guns out. >> but there are critical differences. the istanbul attackers were armed with kalashnikov automatic weapon, shooting their way into the airport before setting off suicide vest bombs. >> the brussels attacker his large suitcase bombs, no guns. the attackers set off two bombs packed with nails inside
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brussels' departure lounge and in the city's metro, killing 32 in all. a third attacker who became known as the man in the hat fled without setting off his bomb at the airport. he was caught weeks later. as isis suffers setbacks losing ground in syria, high profile attacks hit other parts of the world. >> in november last year 130 people killed across paris in coordinated suicide attacks. two weeks later, december 2nd, a husband and wife pledged allegiance to isis before killing 14 people in san bernardino, california. >> oh, my god. >> and then the massacre at an orlando gay club inspired at least in part by isis that left 49 people dead. >> being able to fabricate a plot to carry it out among a small group of individuals, one or more, it is, unfortunately, a feature of our times that isil
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in particular has been determined to carry out these attacks. >> in june 2015, nine countries suffered isis-directed or linked attacks across the middle east and africa says the institute for the study of war. compare that to this june, 14 countries were hit by isis in directed or linked attacks. the terror group now expanding its reach into southeast asia. the isis threat felt like never before in the immediate aftermath of the attack in istanbul. security at new york city airports raised. tonight security at new york city airports remains at a higher level as well as the turkish embassy in manhattan john brennan, said our ability to travel across borders and communicate like never before, the opportunity for attacks only goes up. erin? >> miguel, thank you. and next, protecting the soft target areas at american airports. can it actually be done?
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they've been talking about changing that and adding more layers, but they haven't done it yet. >> well, erin, i can tell you tonight that cnn has learned that security officials here in the united states, they have, indeed, been discussing for quite some time this idea of extending the security perimeter at airports beyond that tsa checkpoint as a way to better protect the soft targets at airports. a u.s. official has told me that these discussions were happening months before this second major airport bombing. right now the way airport security works is that the perimeter is the responsibility of airports, local and sometimes state law enforcement. airports are oftentimes owned in many cases by the state or even local municipalities. so for dhs to extend its reach beyond the ts asha lines it wou take tremendous amount of coordination, manpower, money
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and time. extending those security lines could mean missed flights and passengers would possibly have to be at the airport much earlier, but what we do want to say is that although they've had those discussions at this point the agency has not come up with a way to effectively extend that security line. >> all right. renee marsh. thank you very much. the former assistant fbi director are the criminal investigative division. >> now they're talking about extending the perimeter. does it make sense? is it worthwhile? you can push the perimeter out and everyone is cued up to get through security and that's where the target-rich environment is and it's not going to help to push the perimeter out. if tsa gets better at their job and they don't have a lot of people gaggled up in one place waiting to go through security.
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>> how do they do that? how do they make it more efficient and we're not dealing with tsa is short staffed and the lines have been longer than ever. >> i think it has to do with efficiency. they have to create a business model that's more efficient and they don't appear to be that good at what they're doing right now. secondly, i think we have to accept the fact that we should have an armed presence at the security line. tsa is not armed. they have no way of preventing. security theater, really is what it is. they have no way of preventing bad people of getting through. >> they should have guns. >> should be should be armed right there and somebody should be roving through the airport in plain clothes, spotting. in some ways -- >> which they might have had in turkey, by the way, because they shot these guys pretty quickly and this might have been worse. they were shot. that would not have happened here. >> it's hard to imagine being worse than 300 casualties in such a short period of time and there was a confrontation, but
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they had a plan and they got past security and they got into the populated areas, and i still think that they were trying to detonate in an area where everybody was coming out because that's where the biggest crowd was going to be. >> it was right after the first one and it was planned. >> chris, thank you very much and more of our breaking news coverage after this break. it's good for you, but still somehow tastes amazing. it doesn't make sense. kind of like your echo having a cheeky british accent. hellooo! 'ello! you saucy tart!
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thanks so much for joining us. don't forget you can watch "out front" any time, anywhere on cnn go. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. a busy night indeed, and we begin with developments with e theis tthe istanbul bombings. it rose tonight to 42. more than 120 people remain hospitalized. the second new development is the cia's assessment that something like what happened last night at turkey's heavily guarded ataturk international airport could indeed happen here, that isis is likely planning for it already. the third development is frankly surprising to a lot of people. the airport is back up and running less than 24 hours later and hour by hour as turkey comes to grip with its eighth suicide bombing this year alone, survivors are coming forward telling their stories. new detai a
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