hatred so deep, it drives men to turn planes into bombs. >> acts of terror on our soil. >> hatred so profound, it drove omar mateen to slaughter dozens of americans on a dance floor in orlando. >> i don't know where my son is. >> it is impossible to understand. impossible to get into the mind

of a terrorist. >> this nation is facing terror and tragedy. >> why do so many millions of muslims hate the usa. >> better picture this morning of the man accused of now murdering 13 people. >> why do they hate us? >> what did we do to the islamic world? >> americans are asking, why do they hate us? >> emphasis on that last word, us. why do islamic terrorists hate americans? 15 years after 9/11, we're no longer surprised when they tell us they want to kill us. >> so what are you waiting for? you can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic

assault rifle. >> but who are they? how many and are they multiplying in a new deadly form? >> this is just the beginning, tomorrow will be washington, it will be new york, it is coming. >> inside schools. young children are being taught how to kill us. if the goal of isis propaganda is to terrify america, it has worked. >> let's look at the mood in the country because terrorism is again front and center. >> and that terror has paved the way for a new voice in this country. >> the next president of the united states! >> donald j. trump is calling

for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. it's going to get worse and worse, you're going to have more world trade centers, it's going to get worse and worse folks. >> trump's message has led some americans to say who cares why they hate us. we hate them. >> who's bombing buildings? who's bombing airplanes? it's not the christians, it's not the buddhists, it's the husband hims. you got that on camera, snort. >> they're coming to get us, they're not going to be happy until they take over this country and we have to be under sharia law and i'm not going to bow down to them. >> americans are understandably angry and afraid.

but with fear turning to hate, we need answers. it's literally a matter of life and death. when you ask a scholar deep in the subject, he makes an important distinction. >> they being muslims, they don't hate us. if you talk got they being a narrow, a very small group of extreme radicals, that's an entirely different question. >> he comes from that very small group of extreme radicals. >> to the muslims in america i have this to say, how can you have your loyalty to a government that is leading the war against islam and muslims? >> no one scares american security officials more than him. >> wanted dead or alive. >> head of al qaeda in yemen. >> also helps plan attacks on

the united states. >> he is the driving force behind virtually all of the worst terrorist attacks in america since 9/11. >> we are facing you as men who loved us just like you love life. >> he is an american born in new mexico, educated at colorado state university. how influential is he? one of the san bernardino killers, the husband, syed farook watched alaki's video sermons for years. then there was psychiatrist nadal hassan who murdered 14 americans at ft. hood in texas. hassan e-mail eed alaki about h

plans. the underwear bomber tried to blow a plane out of the sky, under orders from alaki. and mateen is said to have been swayed by alaki after hear his sermons on the internet. but here is the strangest twist on the american horror story. he was invited to lead prayers at the u.s. capitol. he was considered such a perfect role model, a moderate imom in falls church, virginia, that "the washington post" did a story about him. >> there's always this association between islam and terrorism. when that is not true at all. i mean islam is a religious of peace. >> but gradually, it is possible

to see the beginnings of his disenchantme disenchantment. >> there's anger and resentment, but not hatred. this anger and remesentiment doesn't come out of nowhere. >> no one seems certain when he became a full-fledged jihadi, but one thing is clear, he was a scholar of islam, yet he never crites his religion when he speaks about why he hates us. >> everybody from that side, push this way. over here. >> his reasons are about american foreign policy. the so-called war against islam that jihadis always speaks of.

there is one important in fact about alaki that i have not amongsted, he is dead. it was an american drone strike in 2011. but here's the most frightening fact. he is still killing americans. some of the bloodiest terror he inspired was after his death. the san bernardino killings, the boston marathon bombings and the worst shooting in american history, the orlando nightclub murders. al awlakik is dead, the message

is not. and yet his main explanation for why they hate us doesn't ring true to me. the united states has for better or worse waged war in many lands, why are there no vietnamese or cambodian terrorists? and why do they kill mostly other muslims? the explanation for the violence in the world of islam must liar somewhere else, somewhere deeper. >> when we come back.

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9/11, 7/7 in london, mumbai. the boston marathon. san bernardino. paris. brussels and now orlando. all perpetrated by muslims, all done in the name of islam. it raises a question, the

obvious question. is islam an inherently violent religion? ask a critic of islam then ask an honest muslim reformer, you will get essentially the same answer. there is a connection between the religion and the violence. >> it's time to stop saying that this isn't about islam, isis is uber islamic, uber islamic. >> the next time a bombing or a beheading occurs, and god knows it will, the first thing you will hear from the mouth of a moderate religion is, no, no, no, islam has nothing to do with this, that's stimply not true. because most of the people doing these bombings and beheadings are doing it in the name of islam and they actually cite --

>> a shouting match on bill maher's hbo program. >> we have to be able to criticize bad ideas. >> of course we do. >> but why is islam the mother lode of bad ideas? >> how about people who are fanatical, who just want to go to war. >> wait a second. >> wait, wait, wait. >> you take these things -- >> let's get down to who has the right answer here. a billion people, you say, all these billion people don't hold these pernicious beliefs. >> well, they don't. >> we will come back to affleck's point about the numbers, but let's just look at the text. the koran does contain verses that encourage intolerance and violence. it recommends a fiery death for gay people in a shower of brimstone.

but look at the bible on the same subject, in leviticus, if a man has sex with another man, kill them both. both holy books also have passages recommending murder for nonbelievers. i will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, there are strike off their heads. >> our knife will continue to strike the necks of your people. >> you be the same belief that guides isis also appears in the bible. in two holy books with violence passages, with one object difference, jihadis are acting on what they read in the koran. >> islam is being manipulated, it is being used. >> one colorful example of

manipulation in a famous koranic story. >> the koran promises murder in the name of islam 32 virgins s that true? >> it is not true. >> she says that several scholars studying the original text came to a startling revelation. >> nowhere does it promise 72 virgins, 70 virgins, 48 virgins, what it promises is something lush. the arabic word for virgin has been mistranslated. the original word was the word for raisin, not virgin. that martyrs would get rasins in heaven, not virgins. >> 72 rasins, imagine the surprise of the terrorists who expected something completely different.

>> the story illustrates that radicals have twisted islamic ideas but it also reflects a growing new realty, the violent jihadis who carry out isis terror attacks often know little about islam. >> in many cases they're petty criminals, in many cases they're dropouts, in many cases they're unemployed, and in many cases they're drug users. they have no knowledge of the islam. they are completely ignorant of religion and they latch on to radicalism to act out their alienation. >> is salah was the mastermind of the paris attacks, brihim

blew himself up in airs. it is easier say some who brainwash groups who are not religion. a former radical said that recruitment of people having no back ground in islam actually has it's advantages. >> i'm pointing outa the faith itself has the raw material has the elements for a change. >> there is another famous koranic story. a father's two softens convert to christianity and leave home, the father asks the prophet mohammad to bring them back but mohammad declines saying there is no compulsion in religion. >> there is a beautiful passage

in the koran, one of many beautiful passages that states, god does not change the condition of a people until they change what is inside themselves. >> and to those who say, well, you are cherry picking, what do you say? >> i say, yes, that's correct. and so are you. by not acknowledging the freedom loving verses of the koran. >> as you can see, islam can be used in many ways, but the question remains why is an intolerant and violent interpretation of the religion flourishing in important parts of the muslim world. it all starts, believe it or not with an american pop song.

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they're not scrambling to figure out exactly what turned this couple into mass murderings. we have all looked at her and asked, how does a young mother, drop her baby off at grandma's, after nursing that baby give up her own life in a twisted act of martyr come.

there is a way to understand this. because you can draw a straight line from tashfeen malik, directly to the roots of modern radical islam. let me explain by going back to the beginning of the story. bizarre though it may southern, today's radical islamic movement started with a popular american song. 1949, the place was greeley, colorado. ♪ baby it's cold outside >> baby it's cold outside was playing on an old grammophone. syed was a deeply conservative muslim, and he wrote later, the animal like mixing of the sexes, the halls swarmed with legs,

lips met lips, chests met chests, the worst sight of all, he said, the outline of women's breasts in tight sweaters. syed's essay about hiss time here, the america i have seen, became a sensation in parts of the arab world. he hated everything about american culture, hollywood movies, big cars, fast food. >> his views on america are terrifying, they're terrifying because they're narrow, they're racist, he resented the way women and men relate in society. >> by the 1950s, he was a fierce critic of arab governments who were trying to westernize american societies. he wrote 24 books urging the return to sharia law and terrorism against the leading modern nation in the world, the united states.

he was executed in 1966 for plotting to overthrow the government of the egyptian president. he had become a rock star among bu budding radicals, even as arab regimes were jailing and torturing his followers. thus in the jails of egypt and other arab tiernies was born al qaeda. he was read and revered by osama bin laden, awlaki, and others. then in 1979, radical islam explodes. in iran, there was revolution.

enraged by the repressive rule of the american-backed shah, popular protests drove him out. angry mobs seized the american embassy. for 444 days, the united states watched helplessly as americans were held hostage. >> there are indications tonight that a number of armed shiite muslims. >> in 1979, cataclysm in saudi arabia, the takeover of the mosque in mecca. it was stormed by heavily armed insurgents, demanding the overthrow of the american backed saudi king. these events were like robecket

fuel for islamic radicals. they had taken control of iran, and in saudi arab, the monarchy makes a fatal decision. it decides to appease the ultraconservative clergy, giving them free reign to run mosques and spread their poison to other muslim countries. >> it's hard to imagine a muslim country anywhere on this planet that hasn't been touched by this ideology. >> remember, saudi arabia is one of america's strongest allies. >> you are talking about a country that leads the muslim world. >> the new saudi regime is

finally trying to contain the spread of radical islam. but look at this interview with one of the most powerful men in saudi arab, the former imam of the grand mosque. we have the same beliefs as isis, he says, he share their ideology. but we express it in a more refined way. >> and that ideology is still being preached in saudi arabia from the mosques. >> remember, 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 came from saudi arabia. so did osama bin laden. and one more person who is from saudi arabia, tashfeen malik, the wife in the san bernardino killings. >> malik came from pakistan, she later moved to saudi arabia. >> so malik lived in both saudi arabia and pakistan and to what country has saudi arabia most

lavishly and successfully exp t exported it's ideology? pakistan. it's saudi funded medrassas and mosques preach an idealogy. tashfeen malik is a product of radical islam globalized by saudi money. and one more visitor to saudi arabia, the orlando shooter, omar mateen. he went there twice. up next, a crucial question, when we asked why they hate us, how many are there in the first place? >> 300 million people who are ready to strap bombs on their bodies. >> at most, 100,000 people. >> getting the facts right, when we return.

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if you believed everything you heard about islam on certain cable news channels, you would have good reason to be afraid. >> we need to kill them. >> very afraid. >> how many numbers are we talking about? the world has 1.6 billion muslims, how many muslims are we talking about? >> 300 million people who are ready to strap bombs on their bodies and blow us all up in smithereens. >> 300 million people ready to strap bombs to their body? could that really be true? donald trump offers even higher percentages. >> it's 27%, could be 35% would go to war. the hatred is tremendous. >> chris wallace had just shown the front-runner the facts. >> they say at most 100,000

people are fighting for jihadist causes. >> wallace is right, trump is wrong. scholars and experts we spoke to agree. the number of gjihadis worldwid is somewhere between 100,000 and 200,000, not hundreds of millions. how did that come up with that? simple math. they added up the memberships of all islamic terror networks worldwide. that adds up to 1/100 of 1% of muslims around the world. but despite the numbers, the myth persists. >> why don't you take a look at the pugh poll that came out very recently. >> we did take a look. and we couldn't find any poll by pew that bore any resem -- would

go to war with the u.s. nor asked a question of muslims about going to war. but there are some pew polls with findings that are troubling. let's take a look at just a few. in egypt, 81% of muslims who want sharia as the law of the land, told pew that they also favor stoning as a punishment for adult try, and 86% favor the death penalty for those who leave islam s. >> we may be appalled by certain regressive beliefs, but they are just beliefs. the issue is people's actions. >> but can some bad thoughts lead to bad actions? bill maher makes an interesting point. >> if vast numbers of muslims across the world believe, and

they do, that humans deserve to die for merely holding a different idea or drawing a cartoon or writing a book or eloping with the wrong person, not only does the muslim world have something in common with isis, it has too much in common with isis. >> aslam responds with an analogy from america. >> the christians at the westboro baptist church believe that god hates homosexuals, and as a result of that belief, they picket at the burial services of americans who died overskaes. now christians in the united states also believe that homosexuality is a sin, so they share that believe with the westboro baptist church, but they would never share in those actions. by bill maher's logic, those two groups are essentially the same

because they share one fundamental believe. >> sam harris, a critic of islam counters with his own american analogy. >> to have a play on broadway, like the book of mormon, it is currently unthinkable to prosuch a play on the topic of islam. >> the hit broadway musical, roundly lampoons the salt lake city based religion. >> so what do the mormons do in response to this play? they took out ads for mormon imin the program, which is just an adorable response. but there is no one who produced that play who lost any sleep over whether they might be killed or be hunted the rest of their lives by crazy mormons. that's what we have to get to on to the topic of islam. >> on this i certainly agree with harris, and yet, there is another ideology that seems far more successful in seducing

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. michigan is a story as old an america. a century ago, polish immigrants settled here, it became known as

little warsaw, carrying on the traditions of an old country into a new country. an american dream repeats itself. this time the imgrantses are muslims, from yemen, from bangladesh, from bosnia, and now what was once known as little warsaw is the first city in america run by muslim americans, it has a majority muslim city council. >> last night's election had historic significant for that community and the country. >> one more story as old as america, the inevitable culture clash. >> i don't like the changes that are going on. so i'm leaving. >> church bells collide with the call to prayer.

restaurants cater to different groups, but the city has gradually begun to make its new realty and it's new government work. >> i pledge allegiance to the flag. >> but then the call came from the rest of americans. >> they're trying to bring sharia law, they're trying to do this, just people are going crazy. >> it's time to say no sharia in america. >> many communities across the country fear that arab immigration could translate into sharia law. >> i didn't say to hate them, i'm just saying we need them here. >> islam will never dominate the united states and by the grace of god, it will not dominate texas. >> sharia law has never been

established in any city in america, and no one wants it less than the muslim americans in the city. >> we came here to run away from sharia law. do you think i would put it in this country to follow it here? i don't think so. #. >> community activist inbrahm said his family fled the middle east for the things all americans want. >> we came here for freedom and a better future. we will always carry the american flag everywhere we go. >> it's a country where advancement and entry into the middle classes and in some cases access to wealth and power is open to people of all backgrounds. >> look at this man. he came to america from pakistan at age 16. penniless, today he's a billionaire, in the most american way possible.

he owns an nfl team, the jacksonville jaguars. look at television host dr. oz, a first generation turkish american. the list goes on. but mideastern study scholar says it's a list you won't find in many other countries. >> how many people at the top of french politics, how many people with elite roles in big business are the children or grandchildren of immigrants, quite a few. we have people who are barrons of stwri, who's faces look different than ordinary white americans. yourself for example. >> as for all the fears that americans have of sharia law, of muslims as terrorists, they're all rooted in this one fact.

>> less than 1% of america is muslim. most people don't know any husband h muslims. so it becomes very easy to conflate that with main stream, every day islam. we would never make that mistake when we are confronted with extreme acts of violence or radical interpretations of christianity. because we live in a country that's 70% christian. we are tribal ultimately. we are much more likely to forgive the extremes within our own tribe than we are the extremes in other people's tribes. >> back in michigan, more than 20 different languages are spoken in the halls of the high school. and there are cultural differences that have to be navigated, like that most american of traditions, the prom.

>> not many girls in high school are allowed to attend the traditional prom with boys. >> so one teacher had a solution. >> once i got it, i thought, oh, yeah, this is going to be awesome. >> there is still a traditional prom at hamtrammick high, but there's no boys. >> you can actually have fun and dance around knowing there's no boys there. >> you have certain rules from your family, from education, from everywhere. that you can't do. but when you go there, you can do anything, you don't have any limitations. >> up next, my thoughts on why they hate us.

the next time you hear of a terror attack, no matter where it is, no matter what the circumstances, you will likely think to yourself, it's muslims again. and you will probably be right. in 2014, about 30,000 people were killed in terror attacks worldwide. the vast majority of those perpetrating the violence were muslim. but and this is important, so were the victims. of the 30,000 dead, the vast, vast majority were muslims. that's crucial to understand because it sheds light on the question why do they hate us? islamic terrorists don't just hate america or the west, they hate the modern world, and they particularly hate muslims who are trying to live in the modern world. let's be clear, while the

jihadis are few, there is a larger cancer within the world of islam, a cancer of backwardness and extremism and intolerance. most of the countries that have laws that restrict the free exercise of religion are are muslim majority. but are these things inherent in the religion? when experts try to explain that in the 14th century, islamic civilization was the world's most advanced or that the koran was once read as a liberal and progressive document, they're not trying to deny the backwardness today, what they are saying is it can change. islam has been around for centuries, there's been periods of war but also of peace, it's the same religion then and now, so what is different? it's not theology, it's

politics. radical islam is the product of stagnant countries. they have found in radical religion an ideology that lets them rail against the modern world, an ideology that's now being exported to alienated muslims everywhere. all around the world and in some cases in the united states. how do we end this? help the majority of muslims reform their faith and modernize their societies. in doing so, we should listen to those on the front lines, many of whom are fighting and dying in the struggle against jihadis, the hundreds of muslims i have spoken to say their task is made harder when western politicians condemn islam entirely, condemn their faith and speak of all muslims as backward and suspect. here's another way to think about this.

in america, african-americans make up about 13% of the population, yet they comprise about 50% of homicide offenders, according to a justice department study. now we understand, i hope we understand, that when we see a black man on the street, we cannot, must not treat him as a likely criminal. it would be dehumanizing, unfair and racist. in america of all places, people should be treated as individuals and not as stereotypes from a racial, ethnic or religious group. remember, the bangladeshi cab driver who drives you to the airport, has nothing, nothing to do with isis, even though he is also a muslim. it's hard not to make these quick associations, especially in the wake of a terror attack. but if america is about anything, it is the idea that people should be judged as individuals, with individual liberties and rights. it is what they hate about us. we might as well live up to our

own ideals. i'm fareed zakaria, thank you for watching. . hey, good morning, and haech independence day weekend, this is reliable sources, we look at the story behind the story about news and pop culture. ahead this hour, interviewing donald trump, do journalists need to change not just what questions they ask, but how they ask? and hillary clinton, she's the first female nominee of any party. but jill stein is reaching out to bernie sanders supporters. but will the media pay attention? plus speaking of sanders, some may still feel the bern.