>> reporter: phil castile's white shirt covered in blood. they were pulled over around 9:00 p.m. >> he is licensed to carry. >> reporter: reynolds live >> he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. the officer just shot him in his arm. >> the officer still pointing the gun inside the car, explains why he opened fire. >> we're waiting for -- i will, sir. no worries. he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over. >> i told him not to reach for it! i told him not to! >> please, lord jesus, please don't tell me he's gone. please don't tell me you just did this to him. you shot four bullets into him, sir. he was just getting his license

and registration, sir. >> multiple officers at the scene order reynolds out of the car, handcuffing her. her cell phone falls to the ground, and she continues pleading with police. >> please don't tell me he's gone! please, jesus, no! please, no! please, no! don't let him be gone, lord! >> eyewitnesses capturing this video of officers trying to revive castillo before he's taken to the hospital, where he died. reynolds then put in the backseat of a police car, continues talking to the camera. >> i can't believe they just did this. i'm [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ]! >> it's okay. i'm right here with you. >> y'all please pray for us. i ask everybody on facebook, everybody that's watching, everybody that's tuned in, please pray for us. >> reynolds says her boyfriend

worked as a cafeteria supervisor at a st. paul school and had no criminal record. crowds gathering at the scene of the shooting and at the governor's mansion demanding answers. >> now, after watching this video several times, a lot of questions about what happened before she started using facebook live to start shooting that video. we wondered if the officer had a body camera. that officer does not have a body camera. he's been on the force for about five years, put on administrative leave right now as this investigation continues. a lot of questions obviously about what happened in the moments before this shooting. alisyn? >> ryan, it is so hard to process what we see on that video. we'll be talking about it all morning. thank you for that reporting. >> very tough. the justice department is investigating the other police shooting we told you about yesterday that killed alton sterling in baton rouge,

louisiana. a second video now emerging of that deadly koi lencounter. nick valencia is live. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. still an emotionally charged atmosphere here in baton rouge. demonstrations continuing overnight. no known arrests we can report. people who have seen that video say it's plain and simple, the murder of a black man at the hands of police officers. the video you're about to see is graphic. the outcry over alton sterling's death growing as this new cell phone video captures a different angle of the 37-year-old's killing at the hands of police. >> [ bleep ]. >> reporter: in the video, you hear the initial shots fired.

then the camera jerks away, turning back to show sterling on the ground, bleeding from the chest. >> i was hoping that he died peacefully and instantly. no, he didn't. he suffered. he was reaching out and talking. that killed me inside. >> reporter: moments later, another officer reaches down and takes what witnesses later say is a gun out of sterling's right pocket. that gun, the reason why police say they were at the scene. >> told him he couldn't be around there. >> reporter: a source close to the investigation tells cnn the witness who called 911 said sterling was, quote, brandishing a gun, not pointing it at someone. his violent death sparking protests across the country on wednesday from ferguson to philadelphia. some protesters arrested for blocking the entrance to a major freeway. >> we must love and support each

other! >> reporter: sterling's family meeting with louisiana's governor, who turned over the investigation to the justice department and the fbi. >> i have very serious concerns. the video is disturbing to say the least. >> reporter: just hours earlier, sterling's 15-year-old son cameron weeping uncontrollably at a press conference. the teen crying out, "i want daddy daddy." and according to the coroner's office, sterling died from multiple gunshot wounds to the chest and back. those who officers involved have been put on paid administrative leave. one of those officers was involved in another officer-involved shooting in 2014 but cleared of any wrongdoing. chris? >> all right, nick. thank you very much. let's discuss these shootings and what we see, what the issues are and the familiarity of both of these cases, even though they happened in very different places with different police cultures. let's discuss. we have cnn law enforcement

analyst and retired nypd detective harry hough. we also have cnn political commentator mark lamont hill. he's also the host of "b.e.t. news." a show on vh1 now also. congratulations to you for that. listen, baton rouge and this place in minnesota are very different places. they have very different police cultures. the spokesperson for minnesota said they'd never had a shooting like this before. yet, the incidents are very familiar. the fact patterns wind up being very similar. we don't know what happened in the minnesota one. we only see this aftermath video. we're going to show it to you right now. one, this is very rare that you get to see as it's happening what the experience was for the people in that car. so here it is. >> stay with me. we got pulled over for a busted taillight in the back. and the police -- she's covered. he killed my boyfriend.

he's licensed -- he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and wallet out of his pocket. he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. the officer just shot him in his arm. we're waiting for -- >> keep your hands up! >> i will, sir. no worries. i will. he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over. >> i told him not to reach for it! i told him to get his hand off it! >> you told him to get his i.d., sir, and his driver's license. oh, my god. please don't tell me he's dead. please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that. >> keep your hands where they are, please. >> yes, i will, sir. i'll keep my hands where they are. please, don't tell me this, lord. please, jesus, don't tell me he's gone. please don't tell me he's gone. please, officer, don't tell me you just did this to him. you shot four bullets into him, sir. he was just getting his license

and registration, sir. >> get the female passenger out. >> get out of the car with your hands up. let me see your hands. exit now. keep them up. keep them up. >> where's my daughter? you got my daughter? >> face away from me and walk backwards. keep walking. keep walking. keep walking. get on your knees. get on your knees. >> as she continued to transmit when she was in the back of the police cruiser, she lost it. her ability to stay poised and calm in this situation is remarkable. her 4-year-old daughter is in the back of that car. in the cruiser then afterwards, she's losing it, understandably so, and the daughter is saying, don't worry, mommy, i'm here with you. very tough, emotionally charged situation. problem is with this one, we don't know what happened before she started broadcasting. this place has no police body

cams. this police force. what's your take on it? >> first, this is just another argument for why we need as much policing of the police as possible, meaning body cameras and other mechanisms of finding out what happened. obviously we don't know what happened before that tape. anything could have happened. based on what the woman is saying, based on her demeanor, based on everything she's saying has been true so far, he was licensed to carry, it's hard to imagine everything went according to the playbook. when we look at the officer's response afterwards, he seems so unhinged, so off balance that i wonder if he overreacted. we'll find out as more information comes out, but this is something that happens so consistently. black people armed or unarmed seem to get this type of response. white people often who are armed get a different type of response. that's the problem we have here. >> harry -- >> that's not right. >> how do you see it, harry? >> well, you know, like mark is saying, we still have to wait for the investigation to conclude here. but the fact is, you know, we

have one side of the story right now. the girlfriend. i've got to wait until i hear the officer's side of the story. it appears that when the vehicle was pulled over -- and you can see the officer is visibly shaking. he just had to shoot that gentlem gentleman. the fact is the officer told him he wanted to see his i.d. once he said he had a permit to carry, a gun, and of course we don't hear this on the video, the officer had told him to put his hands outside the window. whether that happened or not, i don't know. we're going to have to wait and see what happens. clearly it shows you the fact that you need to comply with police officers, especially when you have a gun permit and you are carrying a weapon. just recently, a black young man did a youtube video when he was stopped by police. he showed how cooperative he was. the fact is if you're carrying a

weapon and you have a permit to carry a weapon, that officer is the one who's going to disarm you because a lot of times that weapon is close to where your wallet is and the officer is not going to let you get near it. just because you've told me you've got a permit to carry a gun doesn't mean that i believe you. i need to see that. >> we have to be careful though because harry just said something really important. he said this proves you have to be compliant with officers. that would suggest that this man wasn't compliant. i don't want to assert something that could be counterfactual. >> we don't know what happened. >> the girlfriend was really compliant even though you can argue they were been unreasonably unreasonably severe with her in those circumstances. let's go through the analysis as we need to. harry says the officer looks unhinged. i don't think anyone is going to argue with that. that does one good thing, one bad thing. one, it introduces the suggestion of training. also, it takes away some of the animus that goes into these

analyses where you start to think these cops want to shoot people. he does not seem happy about what just happened, which gives you on a human level the idea -- >> that does nothing for me, chris. >> i understand it doesn't do anything in terms of the final outcome. >> it doesn't do anything in terms of the analysis. >> it does have something to do with the analysis. >> it shows they don't shoot willy nilly or -- >> well, there are extreme cases. like walter scott. >> when that guy was running away -- >> so here, this police officer seems very upset. to harry's point, it is very unusual where someone tells a police officer they have a legal carry permit and it winds up turning into an active shooting on the part of the person who's stopped. >> no, no, no, no, no, no. you cannot compare any other incident with this one. each and every one of these incidents is different. i don't care how close it looks like at incident or not. this is a specific incident.

>> you used the fact that the guy has the gun as an exacerbating factor. having done the research about these shootings -- >> no, no, no, no. >> it's rare somebody tells a police officer they have a gun and tries to pull it out. >> so two things -- >> but it's very rare also if the officer is told that he's got a gun that somebody puts their hands where they're supposed to put their hands. that's a fact. and we don't know -- listen, mark, you're going entirely on what this woman's saying. >> no, i'm not. >> so i'm going on my analysis. yes, you are. i'm doing onlyanalysis based on experience. >> harry, slow down. let me jump in. first of all, you're saying you're going on your experience. 30 seconds ago you said we can't go on anything but this case. when it comes to police experience, somehow we can rummage through history and pull out facts and data and anecdotes. >> that's why i'm here, because we both have experience in situations like this. that's why i'm here and i'm talking. >> right, harry. i agree with you.

>> i've been in these situations before. >> harry, let me talk. i'm not saying you shouldn't go through your experience. but just a moment ago you said we shouldn't take up any other case. when we look at other cases and data, people very rarely say to a police officer, officer, i'm licensed to carry, and then pull out the gun and engage in a shootout. that rarely -- >> how do you know that? what statistic are you talking about, mark? there's no statistics out there that say people rarely tell police officers -- >> there are statistics that speak to people who have licenses to carry and the number of incidents they engage in gun violence with police officers and without police officers. in terms of armed crimes and in terms of every day actions. that's just a fact, harry. but let me get to the bigger point here. >> from what? that's just something you're saying. you're pulling it out of the air. >> harry, hold on a second. everybody knows you want to do these cases the right way. you want to make sure it's not led by emotion and that you

understand what happened from both perspectives. that's going to be tough in the minnesota case because we don't have body cam video. just to put this one piece to rest, because i'm sure people will be responding to it, yesterday after baton rouge, which we'll talk about later in the show because there's new developments there as well, i went through the last 50 cases of these that got media attention. none of them was that fact pattern involved. in talking to a couple guys who are still on the job and a couple lawyers about it, it's just not a very common fact pattern. that's all we're saying. we don't know what happened here. we're going to have to wait for the testimony and all the other forensics they do. but that's why it was being brought up. there's no question that because of the girlfriend broadcasting the way she did, this is a very hard situation to take. but we are in the same place we always are, mark, which is we're going to have to wait and hear what the officer says. >> and i want to hear what the officer says. i want the testimony, the ngs. everyone deserves that. >> certainly he was very upset after it. he seemed very nervous and scared.

>> a lot of killers do though. we don't know yet, but i'm saying that's not excup story. >> they go directly to the hospital because it's very emotional. >> i could never imagine. i would never want to be in the situation that officer was in the video. harry, thank you very much. mark, appreciate it as always. in the next hour, we're going to speak live to the mother and uncle of that minnesota man who was killed by police to get more understanding of who he was and how he wound up in this situation. alisyn? >> chris, we're going to turn now to the 2016 race. there was news made on both sides yesterday. donald trump giving his firmest defense yet of that tweet with the six-pointed star that many saw as anti-semitic. meanwhile, hillary clinton gives a stinging attack on trump's business records. let's get to all of it with cnn's manu raju live outside capitol hill where trump will meet with republicans today. take us through it. >> reporter: hey, alisyn. actually, right behind me is where donald trump will be in just a couple hours and try to

unite republicans on capitol hill behind his candidacy. he actually may find a crowd that's a little thinner than expected. a number of republicans tell cnn they will not attend today's meeting with donald trump. one reason why is they're frankly a little uneasy still about his candidacy. one reason why they may still be uneasy about his candidacy, the theatrics on the campaign trail yesterday. >> it's very sad. you know, it's very sad. >> reporter: donald trump fired up and lashing out. >> lie, lie, lie. lie! dirty, rotten liar. >> reporter: again accusing the clintons of bribing attorney general loretta lynch. just hours after the a.g. announced that clinton will not be charged for her use of a personal e-mail server. trump also doubling down on his most recent twitter controversy. >> i took the star down. i said, too bad, you shouldn't have left it up. >> reporter: insisting he saw no

problem with this tweet that his team sent then revised after it was widely criticized for being antis anti-semit anti-semitic. >> could have been a sheriff's star. could have been a regular star. my boy comes home from school. he draws stars all over the place. i never say, that's the star of david. >> reporter: the republican nominee then turning to twitter to compare his tweet with the frozen book cover, writing, where does the outrage for this disney book? is this the star of david also? hillary clinton's campaign mocking this argument, tweeting, do you want to build a strawman? in his hour-plus speech, trump hit a number of controversies, refusing once again to back down from his comments about saddam hussein. >> i don't love saddam hussein. i hate saddam hussein. but he was damn good at killing terrorists. >> reporter: while looking ahead

to november, showing a role for newt gingrich. >> in one form or another, newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. that i can tell you. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: meanwhile, clinton remained mum about her own e-mail controversy while keeping a lazer focus on her opponent, criticizing trump's bankruptcies in front of the former trump plaza hotel and can ssino in atlantic city. >> what he did here in atlantic city is exactly what he will do if he wins in november. >> reporter: now, in just a few hours, chris, fbi director james comey will be on capitol hill facing questions from it the house oversight committee over the fbi's investigation into hillary clinton's e-mail arrangement. expect a grilling. house republicans are just not satisfied with comey's decision not to refer this case for criminal prosecution. this is just the beginning of an

intense pressure campaign. loretta lynch will be on capitol hill next week testifying as well. and possibly legislation to deny hillary clinton the right to classified intelligence, all part of an effort to keep this issue alive, chris. >> what a bizarre disconnect we have. congressional hearings going on about hillary clinton, and we have these two police shootings and we're not hearing anything from the people in d.c. about it yet. thank you for the reporting. donald trump still defending this tweet that people called anti-semitic. the use of the six-pointed star. should he still be fighting it? is this a sound strategy? or should he try to move on, if not apologize? we're going to discuss with our political panel next.

you know, they took the star down. i said, too bad. you should have left it up. i would have rather defended it. just leave it up. say, no, that's not a star of

david. that's just a star. i said, bad guy, really bad guy, but was good at one thing. he killed terrorists. next day, donald trump loves saddam hussein. i don't love saddam hussein. i hate saddam hussein. but he was damn good at killing terrorists. >> that was donald trump relitigating a couple controversies that have cropped up this week. that was moments after the justice department said it would not pursue charges against hillary clinton over her use of that private e-mail server as secretary of state. so let's discuss it all with our panel. we want to bring in daily beast, washington bureau chief jackie kucinich. great to have all of you here. jackie, trump is only sorry in terms of what many perceived as that anti-semitic symbol that he took it down, that his staff took it down from his twitter feed because it was really an ode to the childhood favorite "frozen," as he tweeted out here. look at this star used in the

"frozen" ad there. i guess hillary clinton played by elsa in this version. >> i was talking to a republican who has advise the several presidential campaigns. he told me he was despondent. the fact he's doubling, tripling down on this star thing it just -- it's beside the point. >> he wants to defend himself. >> he's trying to win the argument. he wants to just win this argument. by doing that, he runs the risk of losing the war if this keeps on happening over and over again, as we've seen it. >> he sees himself as being victimized. it certainly wasn't an ode to "frozen." they brought up the "frozen" thing to say, talk about this star. we're going to hear another cycle of it. oh, now you said it's about "frozen." >> he tweeted it. where is the outrage for this?

he's saying it's the same star. >> but it wasn't an ode. you're going to hear from him about this because that's how defensive he is. >> but that doesn't make it right. >> there's nothing right about it. we know where the image came from. we don't know why they put it on. but they know it was clumsy. it's the type of thing you get an apology for. not with this team. >> i think you're seeing a set of bad habits learned from the primary come back to bite trump in the general election. he was appealing to a set of voters who wanted the red meat. he was able to never apologize for anything, double down on everything, stand by staff members who were surrounded by controversy. the applause meter just kept going up and up because primary voters saw it as a sign of strength. the general election is really, really different. standard campaign, a conventional campaign would have identified the person who sent that tweet, probably fired them, apologized, and moved on before we got into the business week and the e-mail news cycle.

>> and laura, a standard campaign would also have made more hay of the findings about hillary clinton's e-mails that came out yesterday. they would have fastened on that. of course, the trump campaign doesn't go by the standard playbook. >> no, they don't. it's odd because that particular decision by the justice department not to prosecute hillary clinton, it's certainly political fodder for the trump campaign and sanders campaign that still exists, although i don't think it has any legs left. although it's politically damaging for hillary clinton, legally her troubles are over. it should be acknowledged that it actually is. >> right, except that what you can do politically, say it was the wrong call. this is discretion. it was odd that the head of the fbi would say they're not going to prosecute when that's the doj's role. it's not unprecedented, but it's odd. that decision doesn't end the debate about whether or not they should have prosecuted. you just had more e-mails come out that were marked classified with clinton. it raises the same questions about her trustworthiness.

>> comey's whole statement completely destroyed a lot of the things clinton has said over and over and over again throughout this campaign, but it can be particularly politically damaging because you have a congress that's more than willing to spend lots and lots of time having hearings. we're already seeing the beginning of it. there's every indication that old benghazi and the e-mails could become her new benghazi in this congress. >> so what's going to happen today on capitol hill when jim comey goes up there and the lawmakers ask him questions? >> i think the big question is just how far republicans think they can push it in an adversarial way with comey. there are a lot of people in the party outside the sort of hard core trump base and outside of the people who are focused overwhelmingly on defeating clinton who think that a showdown with an fbi director who has been really harshly critical of hillary clinton is actually not a great look for the party. why would you move the focus off of her and on to a guy, a really, at least so far, unquestioned integrity. >> people are going to get to

know comey now. he has a ten-year appointment. that kind of insulates him from politics. he's not the guy to go toe to toe with about why he makes decisions. we'll see that today. let mae ask you something. does it seem a little odd or tone deaf that they're going to be talking to the fbi director about this e-mail investigation and there's no action on capitol hill with the police shootings, at least to get some kind of board together. that's all these congressional hearings are about. do you think it's going to play badly for washington that they're focusing on that when we're dealing with more shootings? >> absolutely. it shows a tone deafness that the capitol hill congressmen, senate -- their focus is not on what the people care about. the day-to-day life of americans in this country, we have an issue of police using excessive force. we have people dying, as you saw in the videos that surfaced this morning, at the whim of police officers who are being judges on the street. frankly, that's the focus people care about right now, not

whether or not there was classification of an e-mail that may or may not have been released outside of who was entitled to receive it. it shows an absolute insensitivity and a focus that will probably benefit people who are running on a campaign that says we're disenfranchised politically. >> panel, thank you. we will be watching closely what unfolds today, obviously. thanks so much for being here. >> we're also following some news overseas. more bloodshed in bangladesh. attackers armed with guns and bombs opening fire on muslims at a massive prayer service. the question now, who was behind the deadly attack? we have the latest next. [ ghost voice ] the name your price tool can save you money

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northeast of dhaka when the attack began. an attack in dhaka last friday killed more than 20 people. isis claimed responsibility for that attack. president obama slowing down the u.s. troop drawdown from afghanistan. he says the security situation there remains precarious with the taliban posing a constant threat. troop levels were supposed to drop from 9800 to 5500 by the end of this year. now the plan is to keep 8400 u.s. soldiers in afghanistan heading into 2017. republicans and democrats in the house nearly unanimous in approving a bill designed to overhaul the nation's mental health system. the measure would reorganize the federal agency overseeing mental health policy. it would also redirect funding away from general mental health programs and toward combatting more serious illnesses like schizophrenia. all right. we're covering these two police shootings this morning. police have shot and killed a driver during a traffic stop in minnesota. that one follows the fatal police shooting in baton rouge that we talked about yesterday.

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the justice department is opening an investigation into the shooting death of alton sterling in baton rouge. there's new video this morning of that deadly encounter, and it does shed new information on this. joining us now is crime and criminal reporter at "the advocate" is mya lou. let's start with this new video that most of our viewers have not seen yet. it is shot from a different angle. it is closer to the scene of the shooting than the previous interview that we -- i mean, video we saw shot from a cell phone in a car. it is extremely graphic. it is extremely disturbing. we will play it once, and then you can explain the story behind this new video. here it is.

>> [ bleep ]! >> he's got a gun! gun! >> [ bleep ]! [ gunfire ] >> it's hard to watch this. it's hard to understand, even get your mind around what we're seeing on there. what's the story behind that video? >> well, that video came out sometime yesterday. that was actually shot by the shop owner who had told me a couple days ago that he didn't have any more footage. he had given over all the footage to police. i asked him, did you have any additional footage by any chance? he said, no. this footage ended up coming out because his lawyer said he didn't trust police, and he wanted to wait and see how transparent they would be. so this came out later as a result of the ongoing situation. >> when you spoke to that shop owner, what did he say he witnessed that led up to and

followed that shooting? >> well, he said he didn't -- police have said there was an altercation between the officer and alton sterling. he said that he didn't hear or see any altercation. he just walked out, i think, at the time that something was actually taking place in the heat of the moment. he said that he was standing just a few feet away, that he saw officers take down alton sterling on to the ground. he was lying on his back. they were tackling him. they tased him. at some point one of the officers yelled "gun" and fired bullets into his chest. that's what he's saying he saw. >> and have you learned if alton sterling did have a gun on him? >> yes, the baton rouge police chief did say yesterday that alton sterling was armed. however, when pressed further, the police department is saying that they can't confirm whether or not a weapon was recovered, but they did say that he was armed. >> i know that you've been

digging into the circumstances surrounding all of this. what led up to this shooting. by all accounts, alton sterling was routinely in front of this convenience store. he was selling cds. people knew him. so something went terribly wrong on that day. do we know anymore about what precipitated this? >> what we know is that police say they received a 911 call about somebody selling cds who pointed a gun at somebody else in front of the store and threatened that person to leave the property. and that's the call that led to them coming there and encountering him. you know, we've not seen any surveillance footage that shows that alleged incident. that's what police are saying led up to this. >> what do we know about the officers who were involved in this shooting? >> well, both of them have only been on the force a few years. three and four years.

actually last year they both received commendations. one was involved in some sort of officer-involved shooting at one point and was placed on leave. however, we were not able to verify what ended up happening as a result of the shooting. i should say that does happen whenever there is a shooting, even if an officer didn't fire. sometimes they're put on leave. other than that, one of the officers, both of his parents are also police officers here. >> so maya, when you see this new video, this highly graphic, close-up video of the moment of the shooting, what does it tell us about whose story to believe? >> the videos are both very striking. i think that they've really changed the course of this story. if not for the videos, i think i'm not sure the justice department would be involved already. i think that it does clearly show an officer firing at least

one round into alton sterling. i think there's still moments in the videos where the camera veers away, and we're not totally able to see everything you would want to see, such as where is alton sterling's other arm. that's been a question that some people have asked. but they're very striking. they're very graphic and disturbing. i think the fact that they exist and the fact that they have slipped by police and are being leaked to the media is, you know, shows sort of this new era we're in. >> sure does. maya lau, thank you for being here and sharing your reporting on this story. all right. the store owner who shot that video of alton sterling will join us live in just a few moments. chris? >> so there's a lot of political drama building as donald trump's short list for vp gets shorter. two of the potential running mates taking their names off the list. so who is emerging as a likely pick? we'll discuss next. i asked my dentist if an electric toothbrush was

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you can x out another day on your calendar. the republican convention now just ten days away. donald trump has yet to announce his running mate. who's it going to be? well, we know that two high-profile senators say they're bowing out of the running, but who wants to be in? trump very publicly praised a big shot in the republican party just last night. let's discuss with cnn political commentator margaret hoover, who served on the white house staff for president george w. bush. also joining us, political commentator and donald trump supporter kaley mcanyoneny. i'm hiding the ball here to make it more tantalizing. listen to what donald trump said about newt gingrich. take a listen. >> and i'll tell you what, newt has been my friend for a long time. and i'm not saying anything, and

i'm not telling even newt anything. but in one form or another, newt gingrich is going to be involved in our government. that i can tell you, okay? he's going to be involved. he's smart, he's tough, he gets it, and he says i'm the biggest thing he's ever seen. >> and most importantly, he flatters me, which is always nice. you want to make sure your vp has your back. what do we think about newt gingrich? he was kind of written all early on, margaret. i think you may have poo-pooed me for bringing it up. >> newt gingrich came back with really scathing criticism of donald trump. everyone took away from that he was going to be out of the running. frankly, donald trump is not one

to go back to people who have criticized him. >> true, but the next day he said, we're friends. i can criticize him when he's wrong and tell him when he's right. >> and that's why newt gingrich needs to be the vice president. donald trump needs someone who can be a compass. not to say he's going to take marching orders from newt gingrich, but it's important to have that person there to be a guiding compass when it comes to, you know, a controversy or whatever the news of the day is. >> stars of david that are inappropriately tweeted out. perhaps newt gingrich would be able to explain that somehow. look, what you look for in a vice president is somebody who can balance out your strengths and weaknesses or somebody who can bring demographic or geographic advantages. >> does he do that? does he check boxes? >> newt does nothing for demographic or geographic. it's not like he's going to deliver georgia for donald trump. he hasn't represented the people of georgia for many, many years. demographically, he represents the same bloc of republican primary voters that voted for newt gingrich in 2012. so i don't think new people come

to the ticket. what he does do is offer the opportunity to frankly expound on any policy ideas in a really substantive way. this is what newt gingrich does best. he's a communicator. donald trump frankly lacks seriously in that department. >> the star comment gave you the sour face when margaret said it. why? >> because i think it was a contrived controversy. look, you look at police departments who use this same star. chicago police department, for instance, has the same star without the points. you look at the "frozen" ad you showed a few moments ago. has the same star. >> do you know where the graphic came of hillary clinton? >> of hillary clinton? >> yeah. >> i know -- >> that graphic was made for a specific purpose on a message board by a specific type of voice. we know that. >> we don't know that's where his -- >> in an anti-semitic corner of the internet. >> images percolate around the internet. it was on twitter. this was a widely spread image.

we can talk about all these contrived controversies, but the point s do people think donald trump is anti-semitic or not? you are foolish if you think that. he has a jewish daughter, jewish grandkids. >> here would be my point of suggestion. you're making people think that by defending something you shouldn't have defended. you should have apologized and said, i would have never put out an image that was supposed to be offensive to jews because of all the reasons you just offered up. so this was a mistake and let's move on. but he didn't do that. >> but he addressed it. that's what people like about donald trump. when there's a controversy, he addresses it. unlike hillary clinton, who never mentioned why she was contradicted by the fbi director. she doesn't address it. donald trump takes controversy head on and addresses it. people like that. that's what a real person does. >> is it helping trump? >> what he should have been doing is going after hillary clinton all day. the most scathing indictment from an fbi director of any presidential candidate in history. that's where he should keep the

focus. >> forget the star, talk about the e-mail. >> yes, this is an incredible vulnerability of his primary challenger and the person who, you know, very likely might be the next president of the united states. instead, he's talking about saddam hussein and what a great guy he was and not frankly addressing any substantive. >> he addressed a lot. >> it's a startling embarrassment. >> no, it's not. he started the rally saying here are all the ways hillary clinton was contradicted by the fbi director. i think pointing out these controversies and showing how ridiculous they are shows hillary clinton is reaching. she's indicted by the fbi and reaching for controversy. >> kayleigh, margaret, thank you. alisyn? >> okay. two police shoot in addition two days, both caught on camera. now two communities are outraged and demanding answers. so we will speak to the family of the victim in minnesota straight ahead.

good morning. welcome to your new day. we begin with breaking news. back-to-back deadly police shootings caught on tape. just hours ago, a minnesota officer shooting and killing a black man during a traffic stop. >> but here's what makes this one different than any other. the man's girlfriend was on her phone streaming video live on facebook. millions have already seen it, and in just moments, we will speak live with the victim's mother and uncle. let's begin our coverage with cnn national correspondent ryan young. he has all of the breaking details. ryan? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. just a disturbing video to watch. in fact, it was shot in selfie mode, almost ten minutes long. you can see her talking to the camera. at first everything seems calm. you realize things take a drastic turn. just watch how it unfolds. >> stay with me. >> reporter: diamond reynolds capturing the moment after her boyfriend was shot by a minnesota police officer during

a traffic stop. >> we got pulled over for a bust the taillight in the back. and the police -- he's covered. he killed my [ bleep ] boyfriend. >> reporter: his white shirt soaked in blood and in distress. they were pulled over allegedly for a broken taillight around 9:00 p.m. outside of st. paul. >> he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and his wallet. >> reporter: reynolds live streaming video from inside the car with her 4-year-old daughter in the backseat. >> he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. and the officer just shot him in his arm. >> reporter: the officer still pointing the gun inside the car, explains why he opened fire. >> we're waiting for -- >> keep your hands where they are! >> i will, sir. no worries. he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over. >> i told him not to reach for it! i told him to get his hand off it! >> please don't tell me this, lord.

please, jesus, don't tell me that he's gone. please, officer, don't tell me you just did this to him. you shot four bullets into him, sir. he was just getting his license and registration, sir. >> reporter: multiple officers at the scene order reynolds out of the car, handcuffing her. her cell phone falls to the ground as she continues pleading with police. >> please don't tell me he's gone. please, jesus, no! please, no! please, no, don't let him be gone, lord! >> reporter: eyewitnesses capturing this video of officers trying to revive castile before he's taken to the hospital where he died. reynolds then put in the backseat of a police car, continues talking to the camera. >> i can't believe they just did this. i'm [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ]! >> it's okay, i'm right here with you. >> y'all please pray for us,

jesus. please, y'all. i ask everybody on facebook, everybody that's watching, everybody that's tuned in, please pray for us. >> reporter: reynolds says her boyfriend worked as a cafeteria supervisor at a st. paul school and had no criminal record. crowds gathering at the scene of the shooting and at the governor's mansion demanding answers. >> no justice, no sleep! >> reporter: you can actually hear diamond's 4-year-old daughter talking to her mother in that video, telling her mother that she will be okay and that she's with her. we did learn that the police department does no the have body cameras, so we will not know what exactly happened in those first few seconds before that shooting. that livestreaming of the video now the record that we have. of course, there will be a lot of questions into this and what happens next. alisyn? >> there sure will be, ryan, because that video is just so striking that it demands answers. thank you for that reporting.

joining us now this morning is the mother of the victim, as well as his uncle. we are so sorry for your loss this morning. we know this is your first interview and that this is a very hard morning for you. thank you so much for being with us. mrs. castile, have you seen that video that we just played of this incident? >> no, i haven't looked at the video because i know it's not a good thing to look at. i don't want to -- i want to remember him the way i last saw him leaving my home earlier that evening. >> and how was that? >> i don't understand. >> what did happen right before this? >> well, earlier, i would say about 2:00, he came to my house in order to go and get his hair done. he came back and we chitchatted, him and his sister.

they had a conversation about the concealed carry permits that they both have. they were saying that, you know, to be cautious. my daughter said, you know what, i really don't even want to carry my gun because i'm afraid that they'll shoot me first and then ask questions later. >> my gosh. that seems like some sort of omen or something to hear that. now, mr. castile, have you seen the video? >> yes, i have. >> how do you explain what you see on that video? >> i seen a young man helpless, shot for no apparent reason. i saw my nephew shot by a man, clinging to his life. with no help. it was the most horrific thing i

ever seen in my life. >> yeah. >> we hear about things like this happening all the time around the united states and the world. you know, people being harmed and abused by people that we're supposed to trust with our lives, people that are supposed to -- >> protect and serve. >> -- serve and protect us. they tend to be our executioners and judges and murderers. >> i basically think that these things are happening because there is no checks and balances in the justice system. a lot of our african-american men, women, and children are being executed by the police. there are no consequences. so in essence, i feel like it's becoming more and more repetitive. every day you hear of another black person being shot down, gunned down by the people that are supposed to protect us.

my son was a law-abiding citizen, and he did nothing wrong. he had a permit to carry. but with all of that, trying to do the right thing and live accordingly, abide the law, he was killed by the law. >> and it's devastating to us all. >> i'm outraged. >> we hear that, and that's understandable. we understand why it feels as though we've seen far too many videos like this. just the day before your son was shot, we saw one out of baton rou rouge. we've seen so many videos like this, certainly in my line of work, but this one, i have to tell you, is different. in part, it's because his girlfriend was livestreaming it. so you saw her reaction, you saw her 4-year-old daughter's reaction in the backseat, and you saw your son's reaction. have you spoken -- >> all of that. >> have you spoken to his

girlfriend? >> no. >> we can't locate her. no one knows where she is. the last time i saw her is when my daughter and i came upon the scene, and she was in the backseat of the falcon heights police department's police car. they wouldn't even let us get close enough to her to even talk with her. >> and you came up on the scene, mrs. castile, because you had seen this unfolding? how did you know what was happening? >> no. we were getting phone calls, and my daughter was screaming in the house. i was like, what's going on? what's wrong with you? >> the livestreaming. >> the livestream was going on. i personally didn't see it, but i knew something was going on. they were saying they were at larpenter and rice. but then they were saying you can see a falcon heights sign. so i knew immediately that it had to be larpenter and

snelling. we rolled up on the incident, and we couldn't get to her to talk to her. we were stopped by the police. i asked him where was my son at. i didn't want to talk to anyone. i just wanted to know where my son was because i didn't want my son to die alone. >> and what was the answer to where your son was? >> first it was, i don't know. then the sergeant that was there at the site, he came back and told me that he was at hennepin county medical. i said, why didn't you just take them to regents hospital because i thought that was a little closer than minneapolis. but by the time we got to hennepin county, he was already deceased. they didn't let me see my son's body. >> at all. >> at all. >> she hasn't seen him yet. >> i have not identified my son's body because they didn't let me. >> do you think that help came

in a timely enough fashion for your son? >> i have no idea. because everything was unfolding while i was driving to the incident. >> mr. -- >> i -- >> go ahead. >> i'm going to say the help didn't come quick enough. in a situation like this, it never does. i mean, the police are all hyped up and the adrenaline is flowing. they're in a certain place in their minds. i mean, last thing they want to do is touch somebody, offer some help. from what i heard, they did later, you know, a few minutes later. they did try to revive him. but i wasn't there on the scene. i don't know how quickly it came. from what i seen on the livestream, the officer was standing there with his gun still pointed at my nephew. i mean, the man, the man was still standingpointed at my nep

screaming at him. he was laying in the car, his arm swollen and hanging off his body. blood everywhere. i mean, it's hard for me to understand, you know, what was going through their minds and things like that. >> i just want to say that i appreciate diamond streaming that video live. >> no doubt. >> we never would know exactly what happened had she not put that out there like that. >> exactly. >> and then for him to blatantly shoot into that vehicle with that child in there and that female. and i know for a fact my son would never jeopardize his fiance and the child by doing anything to provoke this officer to think that his life was in danger. >> he's not an officer. he's just a man. an officer is supposed to protect and serve. he's not an officer. that was a man who did that. that man is a destroyer. and he came into our lives and

done something and took something from us. >> they took a very good person, and everybody that knows my son knows that he is a laid back, quiet individual that works hard every day, pays taxes, and come home and play video games. that's it. he's not a gang banger. he's not a thug. he's very respectable, and i know he didn't antagonize that officer in any way to make him feel like his life was in danger. >> or threatened. threatened in any way. >> mr. castile, the st. anthony police department that was involved says that in their 30-year history, they've never had a police shooting. i know that you just talked about the police officer being hyped up. you do hear on that video, diamond's video, the police officer yelling. how do you explain the state of mind that the police officer was in or what happened here that might have led to the police

officer being so hyped up? >> it -- >> trigger happy. >> no, i wouldn't say trigger happy. i would say the mere fact my feoff you had a firearm in his vehicle. he had a ccw permit, therefore he had the right given to him, the permission and privilege of the state of minnesota to carry a firearm on his person. >> i think he was just black in the wrong place. >> that could be true, but he had permission and privilege to carry a firearm within this state. from what i understand, philando told them he did have a firearm. >> i'm sure he did because that was something we always discussed. comply. that's the key thing. the key thing in order to try to survive being stopped by the police is to comply. whatever they ask you to do, do it. don't say nothing. just do whatever they want you to do. so what's the difference in

complying and you get killed anyway? >> and we know if you take a conceal and carry class, you know there's protocol when you get pulled over. you let them know that you do have a permit and you have a weapon in your car. >> and that's what he did. >> you tell that police, please let your partner know i have a weapon in the car. okay, now i'm supposed to get my driver's license. i reach for my license or whatever, and then you unload. they unloaded on him. that man shot him. >> yeah. one of the striking things about this video that diamond shot is her composure. so at first, while your son and nephew is bleeding next to her, she is reporting in a quite measured fashion what just happened. she's giving her location of where she is, what transpired, and she's also communicating with the police officer in, again, a very composed, poised,

calm fashion. how do you explain how she was able to do that? >> she's the coolest girl i ever seen in my life. i don't know how she did it. but she managed to get the information out. >> both of them guys are pretty laid back. they're calm people. they're not aggressive, neither one of them. that's why she was able to hold her composure because that's in her nature as well as him being calm and compliant. that's in his nature. so that's why they got along really well. you know, you have two individuals with the same personality. yes, they will get along, and that's why she was able to hold her composure because she's laid back and she's calm like that. >> you know -- >> and i want to applaud her again. >> that is nice. i'm sorry to interrupt you. you want to applaud how she handled herself. >> correct. absolutely. because like i said, in the beginning, we may never have known the truth, the actual truth because i don't know if

that officer, man, was wearing a body cam himself that would help explain some of the things that took place. >> dashboard cam, you know. there's ways of getting information, you know. they're going to do an investigation. hopefully things -- the proper things and the right information and the true information will come out. >> i don't know that this police department has a dashboard cam. tell me about that, mrs. castile. the video starts after the shooting. but what do you think could have been happening in the moments before the shooting? >> it's hard. >> it's hard to say because you don't know what that officer's frame of mind was. but i know my son. and i know that he took the classes and everything. the main thing i'm trying to tell you is we know black people have been getting killed.

women, children, men. i always told them, whatever you do, when you get stopped by the police, comply, comply, comply. and if that man asked him to show his license, and i know he verbally told him that he had that gun. there's no two ways around that. and can't nobody in this world tell me nothing different. >> and in fact, that's what diamond says on the video. she says, you asked him to give you his license, which is what she was doing. he told you that he had a concealed carry permit. >> absolutely. >> she's testifying to all of that in realtime. i want to ask you about your son. we've learned a few things about him. we know that he worked at the st. paul school district as a supervisor in the kitchen. what else can you tell us about him? >> yes, in the cafeteria. he's been working since he was 15 years old. he's been paying taxes since he was 18 years old.

he's been consistently employed all those years. i just don't understand it. i'm outraged about the whole situation because he is a really good person. he's laid back. everybody likes him. he's no thug. he don't run the street. he don't go to bars. he just does none of that. >> mr. castile? >> well, i didn't -- i don't -- i didn't see my nephew a lot, but when i did, we always talked. my questions for him most of the time was, how's your job going, how are you doing? you know, the last time i seen my nephew was on mother's day when i invited my sisters and nieces to my house on mother's day. philando, diamond, and the baby came over. we ended up talking about retirement, you know. what kind of money he's putting away for his retirement and things like that. because i'm a firm believer in getting set up, you know, for

those twilight years and having some money. he got a really good start with the school district, you know, with the deferred comp and things of that nature. he could have been stacking up. >> i encouraged him to get one job, stay on that one job, and retire from it, especially if they have good benefits. and that's what they do. >> but that was my last conversation with philando, on mother's day. >> mrs. castile, it sounds like you gave him all the right advice and encouragement. after we see shootings like this, you often see people take to the streets. you see protests. we've seen some of that already happening in baton rouge. what do you want to see happen? >> justice. >> i would like to see justice. >> that's all we want, is justice. >> that's all we want. >> justice for philando. >> he didn't deserve to be shot down like that. i could never fathom in my life.

i did everything right as a parent. i made sure my kids understood the difference in being law-abiding and that the police were there to help. i never once in my life would have thought that my son would actually be killed by the persons that are supposed to protect and serve him. and he is legitimate, all the way across the board. you want to carry a gun? go and get your license. that's what him and his sister did. everything he did was legitimate. he worked an honest job five days a week. >> serving. serving children in a school. this man was so docile and laid back. it's incredible how anybody could mistake that. >> sometimes you have those that, you know -- you sit up and say that there is no more, what

do you call that -- >> no more justice. >> no, no. profiling. you're still saying there's no profiling, but it is. it is. we're being hunted every day. it's a silent war against african-american people as a whole. >> and it's sad to say. we think we in a land of freedom and things like that. >> we're never free. >> so what does justice look like for you in that case? >> well, right about now it's not looking too good because i'm not getting the answers that i'm asking for. like i said, they did not even let me see my son to identify him. i have to wait until tomorrow after an autopsy. >> and she may be -- they might not let her come to see him right away today. >> they don't know anything. they don't know who the

investigators are. they don't know who the medical examiner is going to be. they don't know the name of the police officers that were involved in the shooting. they're telling me that they don't know anything, so i don't know anything. >> what we do know is philando is dead. that's what we know. >> that's what we know. i will never see my son again. >> we hear your frustration. >> i'm hyped up. absolutely. i'm outraged. and anybody that saw that video, they should be outraged too. >> and millions have seen it already. so it can't be hidden. diamond posted that on facebook, livestreamed it. an hour later, it was taken down. >> luckily she -- other people shared it and saved it. >> wcco got ahold of the video and sent it to new york. it went from there. >> it has gone viral. and millions of people have seen it. millions of people are seeing it

this morning. but you both are so reasonable. you're not asking for much other than your questions to be answered and for justice. let's say this police officer was fired from the force. is that justice? is that it? >> no. jail time. jail time. >> no. >> jail time. no, jail time. >> i'm sure there's protocol and everything, and if a layman like myself, if i shoot somebody, i'm going to be prosecuted. >> that's it. >> he needs to be prosecuted. because of that video. see, because she shot that video. they can't cut it. they can't edit it. it's not grainy. you can see and hear her talking about everything that happened in that situation. all i'm saying is these police officers need to be held accountable for their

wrongdoing. if you've made a mistake, you made a mistake and you need to suffer the consequences. it happened to me, it can happen to you. we need checks and balances. >> we always say every time something like this happens, it's got to stop. when is it going to stop? what have we got to do to make it stop? what do we got to do? will it get worse before it gets better? i mean, we need some help. we need some help down here. >> we need checks and balances. if i can be held accountable for what i do, these officers should too. and i believe because everyone's getting acquitted, it's like open season. oh, obakay, i can shoot him and i'll get acquitted. i'll get my money every day like i'm working, paid leave. >> yeah, put him on paid leave. you can't work, but you can still get money and paid. >> when you talk about the injustice that you feel in your community that you've long felt,

even before, this and that you feel for the black community, do you want to hear the presidential candidates talk about this? do you want this on a national stage to be addressed? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> it needs to be addressed. because, like i said, if there's no checks and balances, then we have chaos. it'll be chaos. if you don't hold people accountable for what they do, then they feel like they can just do anything so then we're out of control. the nation will be out of control. >> what do you want your leaders to do? >> i want my leaders to step up and hold these people accountable. that's it. accountability. everybody needs to be held accountable. >> yeah. valerie -- >> it's no, okay, because he's a police officer, he get a pass. you know what i'm saying? but if i do it, i'm going to jail. >> we hear you.

>> no, that's not right. >> we -- no one can disagree with that. we hear you. valerie castile, and clarence castile, we're so sorry you're enduring this, this morning. thank you for coming on and sharing your feelings. we hope you get information today. we'll check back in with yo u tomorrow morning. >> thank you. i'd like to say one thing. >> yes? >> oh, lord, my god, is there no help for the widowed son? we have to hang on by the strong grip of the lion's paw. >> amen. >> thank you, mr. and mrs. castile. we'll check back in with you and pray you get some answers today. >> i hope so too. >> ending on a prayer there. obviously families in this kind of situation very often cling to their faith. it's something that really helps give them the strength when they need it the most.

the video that the girlfriend made is going to make everything different in this situation. not just because it brought it to light. but the mom there said something that is very sophisticated. when you say something during an actual event, it has high value to the legal system. >> that's interesting because the girlfriend, diamond, was narrating. she was narrating. she had the composure to narrate through the entire thing of what had just happened. >> because we don't know what happened before she started. there are no body cameras here. so the best idea we have of what happened with this young man is this. >> stay with me. we got pulled over for a busted taillight in the back. and the police -- he's covered. he killed my [ bleep ] boyfriend. he's licensed. he's carried -- he's licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and his wallet out his pocket, and he let the officer

know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. the officer just shot him in his arm. we're waiting for -- >> keep your hands where they are! >> i will, sir. no worries. he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over on larpenter. >> i told him not to reach for it! i told him to get his hand off it! >> you told him to get his i.d. and driver's license. oh, my god. please don't tell me he's dead. [ bleep ]. please don't tell me my boyfriend just went like that. >> keep your hands where they are. >> yes, i will, sir. i'll keep my hands where they are. please don't tell me this, lord. please, jesus, don't tell me he's gone. please don't tell me that he's gone. please, officer, don't tell me you just did this to him. you shot four bullets into him, sir. he was just getting his license and registration, sir. >> get the female passenger out.

>> get out of the car right now with your hands up. let me see your hands. exit now. keep them up. keep them up. >> where's my daughter? you got my daughter? >> face away from me and walk backwards. walk backwards towards me. keep walking. >> the composure and cool headedness of this girlfriend and of the mom that we just spoke to and the uncle is so remarkable. who in that situation could have complied and been as calm and collected as she was? i know that i could not. i could never have been in that situation like she is. >> part of the answer to that question is philando was calm when he was asked to comply by the police when they asked him for i.d. he did what you have to do when you get your training for a carry permit, which is to say that he had a weapon in the car. then something went horribly, horribly wrong, and there are a lot of questions and answers that begin in a small way with, why wasn't there a quicker call

to get help in that situation? what was the need to keep the weapon trained on the people in that situation? these questions will be asked. now it's time to figure out how we get answers in a situation like this. congress, you'll hear this is a state issue, it's policing. there's plenty of room for overnight on a federal level. joining us right now is republican congressman jim jordan of ohio. he's a member of the house oversight committee. congressman, sometimes fate creates a change of direction. yes, you have questions about the fbi ruling on hillary clinton's e-mail situation. yes, you want to know how they came to the conclusion they did not to prosecute. but when you see these shootings, does it make you think that maybe that's a better discussion to be having right now than the politics of e-mail? >> well, first, chris, our hearts, our thoughts, our prayers go out to this family. some of the family you just had on as guests, obviously. i was struck, too, by the composure of the lady, just briefly seeing the video and

heard you talking about it here as we were waiting. our hearts and thoughts go out to them. it's a very troubling video. we'll -- i'm sure there's going to be an investigation, and appropriately so. let's find out what happened here. i'm troubled by the video, as i'm sure all your viewers are and you are. as alisyn said earlier, i was struck by the composure of everyone who spoke this morning. the young lady in the video and the guests you just had on who are part of his family. >> part of it is personal poise. part of it, i think, sadly is familiarity with the circumstances. for so many blacks in this country, african-americans have to deal with the reality of what to do. you heard that mother say that even though her son is full grown, comply, comply, comply. that it was like a mantra in their house and that's what they have to send their kids out with every day, to be careful that if the police come into your midst, this is how you have to act. now, there's a part of that, that is an insecurity. there's a part that's a reality. but these are big issues to

discuss. congress could have a role, could they not, especially when it comes to the funding for a lot of these things like body cameras, which they did not have at this force in minnesota. >> yeah, of course, and my guess is there will be some type of hearings. we're talking about the gun issue a lot here. obviously we want to do things that are consistent with the second amendment. but as i said before, i think everyone who sees that video is troubled by what they see. we want to get to the truth. >> well, it's certainly not going to wind up being a gun issue. one man had the legal carry permit. he told the police officer. the other one is a police officer. so they have it. but i understand that today your mind is also on what happened with the fbi. what did you think happens? what do you think the best-case scenario is when you get director comey in front of you? >> well, there's going to be lots of questions, as you would expect. right now we're hearing from all kinds of constituents in our district, lots of people are talking about the fact that it does appear to be basically two systems here.

one for we the people and another for the politically connected. you had the example from what mr. comey said on tuesday with regard to secretary clinton. you had the example that we've talked about before where 4200 back-up tapes were destroyed under subpoena and nothing happens to him. lois lerner targets conservatives and nothing happens to her. a lot of americans think there's one set of rules for we the people and another one for the politically connected. so there will be lots of questions about how he reached his decision. lots of things he said about secretary clinton, as well, i think will be discussed. i think it's going to be an important hearing. i think obviously a timely hearing in light of what just took place with his announcement tuesday and the attorney general's announcement yesterday. >> what's the goal? he's not going to come there and announce there are two systems of justice. he's going to tell you this statute that hillary clinton was being investigated around, almost every case they've made, they weren't showing gross negligence.

they showed intent to deceive, and they were often deceived themselves, as we both know the lying to the fbi is a crime. he's going to say those two elements weren't in place here. so there was no case. >> but remember, the high profile of this case, i think it's incumbent upon when you have this kind of year-long investigation, something this important, incumbent upon the leaders in the government who made the decision to answer questions. that's how the system works, so the american people can know what took place. remember what they did here. she set up this private arrangement, unheard of. when it was discovered that she had it, i mean, she stored everything on there. she alone controlled it. her private e-mail, her work e-mail, her clinton foundation e-mail. now we know, according to director comey, classified information was on that. then she got caught. it was discovered. when she got caught, it was her legal team who decided which ones they would keep and which ones the congress and therefore the american people would see. then after all that, the ones they kept, according to mr.

comey's testimony, according to what he said tuesday, he said they deleted the ones they kept and that her lawyers got rid of anything on their devices so there's no forensic recover possible. so think about that. they controlled it from the front end. they got to decide which ones they kept. >> i get it. >> then they wiped the devices clean. i think there will be some questions about that issue. >> you don't like his conclusion. the problem with what you're doing here is that you are calling into question director comey and by implication, you're undermining his decision, don't you think? >> all i'm saying is the american people are entitled to have questions answered. the way it works in our system is their representative in the united states congress gets to ask questions so the american people are fully informed about what took place here and why it happened. that's all we're doing. that's what we're supposed to do. one of the key functions of congress is the oversight function of the executive branch, when they make important decisions that impact our entire system. that's appropriate and that's what we're doing this morning.

>> you believe this e-mail scandal raises to that level of needing a congressional hearing to second-guess the director of the fbi. >> you used the term second guess. >> how are you not second guessing it? he gave you his findings. he told you why he couldn't prosecute the case. now you say you have lots of questions. he thinks he answered them. >> well, he might think he answered them in a 15-minute press event that he had. we think it's incumbent upon him to answer a few more questions from members of congress, and it'll probably take longer than 15 minutes. so we're going to do that today. we think that's appropriate. frankly, my guess is lots of taxpayers, lots of american citizens think it's appropriate as well. >> i understand that. can you tell me of another time that you've held a hearing of what director comey has done? >> we've had many times the justice department. i can remember ask mr. comey about the irs scandal. i've asked the attorney general. >> but hearings about the finding of his investigation. you just said you want to talk to him about lois lerner because you haven't heard yet.

>> we've met with the justice department as well about the decision they made. >> not a public hearing. >> right. >> you could do that here. you didn't have to have a hearing. >> well, the hearing was scheduled. it's called by the chairman. i think it's entirely appropriate. >> all right. i'm just asking you the questions the people want to hear. as always, we look forward to hearing what comes out. >> thank you. >> chris, that shooting of philando castile in minnesota comes one day after another deadly police shooting in baton rou rouge. we'll show you the new video that gives new information about that shooting. we will also speak to the man who shot these images coming up. ♪but i'm not gonna let 'em catch me, no no,♪ ♪not gonna let 'em catch the midnight rider,♪ ♪yeaaahh...

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new video of another deadly police shooting. this one in baton rouge, louisiana. this is the death of alton sterling. it is being investigated by the justice department now. cnn's nick valencia is live from baton rouge with the latest. what have you learned, nick? >> reporter: good morning,

alisyn. hundreds of people continue to demonstrate overnight at the scene where alton sterling was shot and killed by police. there are calls for city leadership to step down. we have to warn you that the video you're about to see is graphic. the outcry over alton sterling's death growing as this new cell phone video captures a different angle of the 37-year-old's killing at the hands of police. in the video, you hear the initial shots fired. [ gunfire ] >> get on the ground! >> reporter: then the camera jerks away, turning back to show sterling on the ground bleeding from the chest. >> i was hoping that he died peacefully and instantly. no, he didn't. he suffered. he was reaching out and talking. that killed me inside. >> reporter: moments later,

another officer reaches down and takes what witnesses later say is a gun out of sterling's right pocket. that gun the reason why police say they were at the scene. >> told him he couldn't be around this. >> reporter: a source close to the investigation tells cnn the witness who called 911 said sterling was, quote, brandishing a gun, not pointing it at someone. >> hands up, don't shoot! hands up, don't shoot! >> reporter: his violent death sparking protests across the country on wednesday. >> hands up, don't shoot! >> reporter: from ferguson to philadelphia. >> we must love and support one another. >> reporter: some protesters arrested for blocking the entrance to a major freeway. >> we must love and support each other! >> reporter: sterling's family meeting with louisiana's governor, who turned over the investigation to the justice department and the fbi. >> i have very serious concerns. the video is disturbing, to say the least. >> reporter: just hours earlier, sterling's 15-year-old son cameron weeping uncontrollably

at a press conference. the teen crying out, "i want daddy." >> reporter: a source close to the investigation tells us that the two police officers involved in that shooting were interviewed on tuesday night at the request of the district attorney. both remain on paid administrative leave. chris? >> all right, nick. thank you very much. we're joined now by the owner of the convenience store where alton sterling was shot and killed by police. he is the one who videotaped the deadly encounter that you just watched. he considers sterling a friend and is joined by his attorney joel porter. tell us about how you knew this man and what you believe started all of this. >> well, i know him from back in 2010 when i was working for a friend and he was out there selling cds. >> and how do you believe this

all happened? >> it happened so fast. i seen the cops pull up while i was inside the store. by the time i made it outside, they were already slamming him on top of a car. after that, they backed up off him, tasered him, and then another cop ran, tackled him on to an suv. from there, they threw him on to the ground. both cops got on top of him. after that, they shot him. >> abdullah, let's go one step at a time here. i know this is difficult for you to talk about, especially with someone you considered a friend. but it's important. there's so many questions. why do you think the police were called to the scene? what do you know about that? >> i wasn't sure why they were there. from what i heard, they said there's a lot of people saying

that they were called over there because he was threatening people with a weapon, which i find that hard to believe. >> why do you find it hard to believe? >> he's not that type of person, to threaten anybody, unless he feels threatened. >> you've known him for a while. he's not known to be a tough guy. have you ever seen his gun before? >> i've seen it before, but he would leave it hidden somewhere until it would get dark. then he would leave it in his pocket. >> why? >> a couple of his friends that also sell cds in different, other locations have been getting robbed lately. >> what made you decide to start videotaping this, using your cell phone?

>> i seen that it was escalating and getting bad. >> and what do you mean when you say it was getting bad? did you think alton was creating this situation? was he resisting? did you think the officers were taking it too far? what were you thinking that made you say it was going too far? >> the officers really took it, you know, a little too far. he was confused. he didn't know what was going on, why they were there. he asked them several times, what did i do wrong, what's going on, but they continued to slam him on top of the car and taser him. >> now, you turned the camera away, but we know you were watching the entire time. tell us what happened right before the shots were fired. >> right before the shots were fired, they were on top of him. they had him pinned down.

one officer had one hand, the other officer had the other. >> so you believe they have him restrained. because there's this question of whether or not alton was going for his gun, and that's why the officers needed to shoot. your attorney is shaking his head that he doesn't believe that, but tell me, abdullah, why? >> i don't think he was going for his gun. there's no way he was. he was pinned down. he was outpowered. there was two of them and one of him. they were right on top of his chest. >> did you see what looked like alton to be reaching for his gun? >> no, not at all. >> did you hear him say, i'm going for my gun, or did you hear him threaten the officers? >> not at all. not while he was standing up, nor while he was pinned down. >> did you hear the officers mention his gun?

>> i heard an officer scream out "gun," and that's when right after they started shooting. >> they shot him more than once. we believe it's four times at this point. there's also a separation -- >> six times, i would say. >> you say six times. obviously we're still waiting for information to come out from the police about this. but we believe there was a pause in the shooting. do you remember there being a pause in the shooting before more shots were fired? >> yes. >> yes, first they shot three times while they were still on top of him, and they jumped off of him and screamed at him, get on the ground. which he was already on the ground. and shot at the time. and then they released another sheets at him. >> did you see alton do anything that would have made the officers feel that he was making a move at that point? >> i don't think so. the gun was never visible at any point.

and he was pinned down on his back. >> did you hear the officers say anything to explain, what were they saying to each other, after this happened? >> one officer called in shots fired. i remember hearing at one point that one of the other officers saying just leave him, leave him laying there. >> abdullah, i know this isn't the kind of memory you want to have. i know this isn't the situation you wanted to find yourself in. but the cell phone video you took is helping answer a lot of questions that people will have about this situation. i hope that you're okay going forward. stay in touch with us if you have any information you want to get across, okay? >> okay. >> abdullah, be well. mr. porter, thank you for being by his side.

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back-to-back police shootings caught on video, and two black men, dead. growing outrage across the country. we're seeing protests now. how will congress respond. joining us is congressman ben louhan, he has endorsed hillary clinton. congressman, thank you for being here. >> good morning, alisyn. good to be with you today. >> good to have you here. we had on the family of the man of philando castile, shot last night in minnesota. it was called a routine traffic stop for a broken taillight. and then something happened, and he was shot four times in the arm and he was left to die before paramedics or anyone arrived. his family was just on expressing obviously their frustration. and the mom said something that is hard to get past.

she basically said that he is only -- his own missstep is being black at the wrong time and in the wrong place. let me play for you what she said about that. >> there is no profiling, but it is. it is. we're being hunted. everyday. it is a silent war against african-american people, as a whole. i want my leaders to step up and hold these people accountable. >> okay, she is calling upon her leaders to do something. you can understand obviously that sentiment. what can congress do about this feeling in the black community? >> well, alisyn, you know, first off, my heart goes out to the family, and i watched the segment this morning with his mom. look, i mean, she is right. the families deserve answers. there needs to be a thorough investigation that is transparent into these tragedies, especially into this one. it is important there are body

cameras with law enforcement officers so families know what is happening here as well. but there is an awareness as well, as we look at what's happening across the country. when it comes to gun violence in america, democrats are come together and working with congressman john lewis to make sure we have mandatory background checks and other provisions that we think will make the community safer. in this case, as we talk about the tragedy that happened to this young man, the family deserves answers and we need to see what we can do every step of the way and help the families. >> do you see this as more than just this family, more than an isolated incident or two? do you see this as a pattern, where -- what we see in the videotape is that the people, the victims are calmer, seemingly, than the police officers. do you think there is something going wrong with training or awareness in some police departments across this country? >> well, alisyn, clearly we can see from the number of deaths

and lives that have been taken, and instances like this, and in others, there is -- there seems to be a pattern of sorts. there needs to be more training for enforcement officers all across the country. more training is something that we need to be able to support and fund. but clearly, we can just see what's been happening across the country and see it is not just happening in isolated incidents or in one community. this is happening in communities across america. >> is that something that congress would act on? >> i certainly hope that it is something congress should act on. it is something i'm willing to act on. i certainly hope our republican brothers and sisters are listening and listening to his mom this morning and last night, how we can come together to do what is right for the american people. congress needs to listen to what's happening out there. >> congressman, we originally booked you to talk about the aftermath of the findings of hillary clinton's e-mails. i do want to ask you one question about that. how do you think this will affect her campaign? >> well, alisyn, the highest law

enforcement officer of the land, the director of the fbi was very clear. there was a thorough investigation here. the fbi director said in the end, in the aftermath of his thorough years, long investigation, that no charges were recommended. look, secretary clinton made it very clear as well. she made a mistake. she would not do it again. so look, we need to make sure we move forward as well as we see fbi clearly said. >> what im markpact do you thin will have on voters? >> i think republicans are going to try to focus on whatever they can to try to distract the american people. but look, when the fbi director came forward and he said that he was going to give a recommendation and before his recommendation came out, i had said publicly that i would accept the recommendation no matter what it was. and his recommendation said that there would be no charges moving forward. look, we have to continue to reach out to the american people. make sure that we're continue to earn their trust every step of

the way. no matter who is running for office, including secretary clinton, myself or county commissioner or local judge ship. we need to be out there working and making sure we're reaching out to the american people and earning their trust. >> congressman, thank you so much for being on "new day." >> thank you. frustration boiling over after the back-to-back police shootings. let's get right to it. >>announcer: this is cnn breaking news. good morning everyone. welcome to "new day." it is thursday, july 7th. it is 8:00 in the east. breaking news, back-to-back deadly shootings that have been caught on camera. this time, a minnesota officer opening fire and killing a black man during a traffic stop. >> the man's girlfriend streaming the aftermath live on facebook, millions have already watched this disturbing scene that's minutes long. the families of course are heartbroken. the communities are outraged and demanding answers. let's begin our coverage with cnn national correspondent ryan

young. what do we know now? >> reporter: chris, just disturbing video. off you watch this, it hits you. the woman, diamond, who is in the video describing what happens. as she realized what's going on and the fact that she may lose her fiancee, you can hear her emotions tear apart. >> stay with me. >> diamond reynolds capturing the moments after her boyfriend was shot by a minnesota police officer during a traffic stop. >> we got pulled over for a busted taillight in the back and the police [ bleeping ], he is covered. >> philando's white shirt, soaked in blood and in distress. >> they were pulled over for a broken taillight around 9:00 p.m. outside of st. paul. >> he is licensed to carry. he was trying to get out his i.d. and wallet. >> live streaming from inside the car, with her 4-year-old daughter in the back seat. >> he let the officer know that

he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallet. the officer just shot him in his arm. >> the officer, still pointing the gun inside the car, explains why he opened fire. >> we're waiting for back up. >> i will sir, no worries. i will. >> he just shot his arm off. we got pulled over on larpenter. >> i told him not to reach for it. >> please don't tell me this, please, lord jesus, don't tell me that he is gone. please don't tell me that he is gone. please, officer, don't tell me you did this to him. you shot four bullets into him, sir. he was getting his license and registration, sir. >> multiple officers at the scene. order reynolds out of the car, handcuffing her. her cell phone falls to the ground. >> please don't tell me she is gone. please, jesus, no.

please, no. please, no. don't let him be gone. lord. >> eyewitnesses capturing this video of officers trying to revive castile before he is taken to the hospital where he died. reynolds was put in the back seat of the police car, continues talking to the camera. >> i can't believe they just did this. [ bleeping ]. >> it's okay. i'm right here with you. >> please pray for us, jesus. please. i ask everybody on facebook, everybody that's watching, everybody, please pray for us. >> reynolds say her boyfriend worked as a cafeteria school. crowds gathering at the scene of the shooting -- and at the governor's mansion, demanding answers. one of the things you can notice when you watch the video, you

can hear a small voice at one point, i'm here for you. that's diamond's 4-year-old daughter, trying to offer support to her mother, obviously, as she is going through this emotional state. we do know there was no body camera on the officer. so we won't -- not have video of the seconds leading up to the shooting. a lot of questions about this. we know this is the first shooting in the 30 year history of that police department. but a lot of people want answers, and they want answers fast, concerning what exactly happened, and then how this unfolded on that video which is so tough, alisyn. >> i mean, ryan, of all of the hearbreaking moments, that little voice, saying i'm -- it's okay, i'm here with you mommy, is possibly the most. so yes, we do want answers. >> a 4-year-old. >> a 4-year-old, right, that 4-year-old little girl. we'll be talking about this and asking lawmakers about it. thank you, ryan for that. minutes ago, we spoke exclusively with the mother and uncle. this is their first interview, and you can hear them trying

frost he to process what happened. they had spoken just yesterday about the concerns they had about carrying their legal guns. >> earlier, i'll say about 2:00, he came to my house in order to go and get his hair done, and he came back, and we chitchatted, him and his sister, and they had a conversation about the concealed carry permits that they both have. and they were saying that, you know, to be cautious, and my daughter said you know what, i really don't even want to carry my gun, because i'm afraid that they'll shoot me first, and then ask questions later. >> oh, my gosh. that seems like some sort of omen or something to hear that. now mr. castile, have you seen the video? >> yes, i have. >> how do you explain what you see on that video?

>> i seen a young man helpless, shot, for no parent reason. i saw my he nephew shot by a man, clinging to his life. you know, with no help. it was the most horrific thing i've ever seen in my life. >> yeah. >> we hear about things like this happening all the time around the united states and the world, you know, people being harmed and abused by people that we're supposed to trust with our lives, people that are supposed to -- >> protect and serve. >> protect us. they tend to be executioners and judges. murderers. >> basically i think that these things are happening because there is no checks and balances in the justice system.

and that a lot of our african-american men, women and children are being executed by the police, and there are no consequences. so in essence, i feel like it is becoming more and more repetitive. everyday, you hear of another black person being shot down, gunned down by the people that is supposed to protect us. my son was a law-abiding citizen, and he did nothing wrong. he had a permit to carry. but with all of that, trying to do the right thing and live accordingly by the law, he was killed by the law. >> it is devastating to us all. >> i'm outraged. >> we hear that, and that's understandable. we understand why it feels as though we've seen far too many videos like this, just the day before your son was shot, we saw one out of baton rouge. we've seen so many videos like

this, certainly in my line of work, but this one, i have to tell you, is different. in part, it is because his girlfriend was live streaming it. and so you saw her reaction. you saw her 4-year-old daughter's reaction in the back seat and you saw your son's reaction. have you spoken -- >> all of it. all of that. >> have you spoken to his girlfriend? >> no. >> we can't locate her. no one knows where she is. the last time i saw her is when my daughter and i came up on the scene and she was in the back seat of the -- >> falcon heights. >> falcon heights police car. they wouldn't let us get close enough to her to even talk with her. >> and you came up -- but you came up on the scene, mrs. castile, because you had seen this unfolding? how did you know what was happening? >> no. we were getting phone calls, and my daughter was screaming in the

house, and i was like what's going on. what's wrong with you. >> live streams. >> the live stream was going on. i personally didn't see it, but i knew something was going on. and they were saying -- they were at larpenter and rice. but then they were saying you could see a falcon heights sign. >> yeah. >> so i knew immediately that it had to be larpenter and snelling. we road up on the incident and we couldn't get to her to talk to her. we were stopped by the police. i asked them where was my son at. i didn't want to talk to anyone. i just wanted to know where my son was, because i didn't want my son to die alone. >> what was the answer to where your son was. >> first it was i don't know. then the sergeant that was there at the site, he came back and told me he was at the medical center, and i said why did you take him there. why didn't you take him down to

regions hospital, because i thought that was a little closer than minneapolis. but by the time we got to henipan county, he was already deceased, and they didn't let me see my son's body. >> at all. >> at all. >> after we see shootings like this, you see people take to the streets, protests, we've seen that already happening in baton rouge. what do you want to see happen? >> i would like to -- >> justice. >> that's all we want is justice. >> justice for philando. >> he didn't deserve to be shot down like this. >> no. >> i couldn't believe it. i could never phantom in my life. i did everything right as a parent. i made sure my kids understood the difference in being law-abiding. and that the police were there to help. i never once in my life would have thought that my son would actually be killed by the persons that are supposed to

protect and serve him. and he is legitimate, all the way across the board. you want to carry a gun. go and get your license. and that's what him and his sister did. everything he did was legitimate. he worked an honest job. five days a week. >> serving. serving children in the school. this man was so laid back, it is incredible how anybody could mistake that. but -- >> sometimes you have those that, you know, you sit up and say that there is no more, what do you call that -- >> no more justice. >> no, no no. when they profiling. they're still saying there is no profiling, but it is. it is. we're being hunted. everyday. it is a silent war against african-american people as a

whole. >> and so -- >> it is sad to say. we think we are in the land of plenty, you know, freedom and things like that. >> we're never free. >> and so what does justice look like for you in that case? >> well, right about now, it is not looking too good because i'm not getting any answers that i'm asking for. they did not even let my son to identify him. i have to wait until tomorrow. after an autopsy. >> and she may be -- they might even not let her come to see him right away, today. >> they don't know anything. they don't know who the bca investigators are. they don't know who the - >> the doctor, the medical examiner. >> they don't know who the medical examiner going to be. they don't know the name of the police officers that were involved in the shooting. they are telling me they don't know anything. i don't know anything. >> what we do know is philando is dead. that's what we know.

>> that is what we know. i will never see my son again. >> i mean, you know, the hard thing for this family is going to be they're just starting this journey. they haven't been hit by the loss yet, and that's allowing them to be hope and honest before they become consumed by the pain that will hit them. that mom has not watched the video and it is going to sink in. once it does, their need for answers is going to be met by a different challenge, which is dealing with what they most of all, is that their son is gone. >> i can't imagine two better spokes people for this tragedy. you know, they are -- they're clearheaded at the moment. they are dis passionate. i mean, strikingly at the moment, and just talking about the outrage they have on so many different levels, not being able to get their questions answered. the frustration of thinking all

along that something like this might happen, and because their son was black, they felt they had to counsel him in a different way than we would our children. and that he did everything right, and that this mom did everything right in the advice she gave to her son and that her son was a hard-working guy and legally carrying. i mean, all of these things are just -- in particular, this makes it so striking to talk about. >> people of color feel like that all over the country. it does, you know, you should know that this police force said they never had a shooting in like 30 years. it doesn't mean that the insecurity isn't there for people of color and communities about how they interchange with police. that's why we cover this story. we're going to have much more on this throughout the morning. especially talking to people in positions of power about what to do. we know the problem. we know how it manifests itself. the question is how do you change it. we can't seem to get there. now one of the things that could be talking about this would the process of the election. we don't flow how it will enter in. we did hear both trump and

clinton touch on issues that surround the needs of these communities. for the most part with donald trump yesterday, it was still defending what happened with this tweet of a star that many believed was a derogatory symbol for jews. let go outside the capitol hill club. that's where trump will meet with republicans this morning. what do we expect manu? >> reporter: that's right, chris. any moment, donald trump should be arriving here. this is the first meeting with a full house republican conference, and also, senate republican conference since he became the party's nominee. now, not just donald trump is here, but also about a couple of dozen protesters are standing around us, chanting things like calling donald trump a fraud, calling this the party of trump. so expect a lot of these theatrics to happen. one interesting thing to note, chris, is that a number of republicans have decided to skip today's session, largely because they want to stay away from the theatrics that we have been

seeing on the campaign trail, including yesterday. >> it is very sad, you know. it is very sad. zrchl >> reporter: donald trump, fired up and lashing out. >> lie, lie, lie. l dirty, rotten liar zrchl. >> reporter: accusing the clintons of bribing loretta lynch. hours after the ag announced that she will not be charged. trump also doubling down on his most recent twitter controversy. >> i took the star down. i said too bad. you should have left it up. >> reporter: insisting he saw no problem with this tweet that his team sent and then revised, after it was criticized for being anti-semitic. >> it could have been a sheriff's star, a regular star. my boy comes home from school, baron. he draws stars all over the place. i never said oh, that's the star of david, baron, don't. >> reporter: the republican nominee turning to twitter to

compare his tweet with the frozen book cover, writing where is the outrage for this disney book. is this the star of david also? hillary clinton's campaign mocking this argument, tweeting, do you want to build a straw man. in his hour plus speech, trump hit a number of contro severe sees, refusing to back down from his comments about saddam hussein. >> i don't love saddam hussein. i hate him, but he was damn good at killing terrorists. >> while looking ahead to november, signal a future role in his campaign for newt gingrich, rumored to on trump's short list. >> in one form or another, newt gingrich is going to be involved with our government. that i can tell you. >> reporter: meanwhile, clinton remained mum about her e-mail contro seve controver controversy. criticizing trump's bankruptcies

in front of the hotel in atlantic city. >> what he did here in atlantic city is exactly what he will do in he wins in november. >> reporter: now, in just a few hours, alisyn, james comey will be here testifying before the house over sight committee after the fbi director announced earlier this week he would not recommend criminal charges against hillary clinton over her e-mail arrangement. expect him to get a grilling. republicans are not satisfied with this decision not to refer this for a criminal prosecution. but it's really part of a larger effort by republicans to keep the pressure on after the fbi director made his comments that hillary clinton was careless in handling her classified e-mail. paul ryan sent a letter today to james clapper saying she should be denied any briefings going forward in a general election.

watch for more of that in the coming weeks, alisyn. >> we will be watching that, as well in just about two hours, manu. thank you very much. ohio senator rob portman, what does he want out of the congressional hearing, plus in the wake of these two deadly shootings, caught on camera what, will congress do. that's next.

back-to-back police involved shootings, two men dead, both black, both encounters caught on video. outrage growing. should congress do anything for this? policing is seen as a state issue, but aren't these bigger than police issues. let's talk to rob portman of ohio. you have the director of the fbi to talk about clinton's e-mail investigation and his findings to the dissatisfaction of many in your party. when you hear about these shootings, does it give you pause for concern about what you guys are choosing to do with your time? do you think this issue deserves as much time as the e-mail issue? >> well, they both deserve time. we certainly should be capable of addressing both of them.

on the e-mail, chris, and i know you've been involved in this issue over time, talking to i'm sure secretary clinton and so on, one of the concerns is she said things that were not true. that's one thing that director comey laid out. my bigger concern is what the impact is on protecting classified information. our nation's secrets are protected by a lot of government entities. i was at a fraparade over the weekend, i guy came up to me that works at nasa, a senior person, he said he has been protecting our secrets, classified information for a long time and he and his colleagues why should they have to go through all these steps to put things nesain the safe. that's one of my concerns, there seems to be no consequences. maybe a double standard also. but the broader issue of protecting classified information for our national security purposes, and there seems to be no consequence here. that is something that is

definitely worth looking into. >> certainly, there were violations of state department guidelines that the state department would deal with. you know, comey, in referencing the statute, doing research on it, i don't know if the staffers have this prepared for you or not. this statute, when prosecuted, is almost never prosecuted on the basis of gross negligence. it is always on intent to deceive. it is almost always coupled with intentional deception to the fbi. none of those elements were present in clinton's case, and that's why director comey, while providing some censure, criticism to what she did, said he couldn't prosecute. why isn't that good enough for you? >> yeah, well, look, that may be true with regard to the specific statute and the situation now, where she is no longer an employee of the state department. but i will tell you that we have plenty of information coming in, and you know, i'm chair of the committee investigations of people saying gosh, i was at the state department. if i would have done that, i

would have lost my security clearance. i would have lost my job, because i couldn't do my job without it. the department of defense, as you know, takes a very serious view of this. in other words, if somebody takes something home or leaves something on their desk -- >> it doesn't make it illegal. >> well, some people have served jail time for taking things home. >> there is almost in those cases an intent to deceive, knowingly, willfully, wantingly, as you go through the language of the institute tustatute. director comey, who i'm sure you know already is no joke. this is not a guy that gets painted with a partisan brush on any regular basis. he seays i couldn't make the case. i'm not saying it wasn't extremely careless, but not a crime. some would suggest you're going to undermine his credibility with this hearing. >> well, i have a lot of respect for him, and you know, i've seen

him in action when he was at the justice department during the bush administration. i know is a straight shooter. again, my current role on the homeland security committee, i've had a lot of interaction with him. i respect the guy. and i do think that he has thought through this carefully. so the hearing is on the house side. not the senate side. i'm not involved with it. i don't think we should be undermining his credibility. but we should be asking these tough questions. if there is no conference to what she did, not only to take things home in a sense, but to go well beyond that to have her own private server, that most experts believe was hacked, and as you know, director comey said that's likely it happened. he can't say specifically which groups might have hacked and gotten this information. he also made the point that she was not accurate in saying to to you and to others, no classified information on my server, and finally, she said but if there was, none of it was marked. he said some of it was marked. i think -- i hope what happens

today is that he is asked to elaborate on some of those pointless, so we can understand what happens. >> but you do understand -- >> and what the consequences are. >> but you do understand that you're putting him in such a bad position. he cannot give you the satisfaction that you want. you say consequences. he deals with crimes. that's what he does. he doesn't deal with, you know, you're bad politician. that's for you guys to deal with. that's the political, you know, prices she is obviously paying. look at her poll numbers, obviously this is already baked in. all the behavior you just pointed out, he doesn't have any reach on those. she didn't lie to him about what was on the server. she didn't lie to him about what was going on. she may have lied to you. she may have lied to me. but if she didn't lie to him, then there is no crime. so i don't get what satisfaction you want of having the director of the fbi come out there that sdu

doesn't undermine his credibility. >> he is coming to the house, so i won't be involved in it. this will give him an opportunity to explain himself. he does very well. >> sure he does. >> i'm not concerned about his credibility ultimately, because he'll have the opportunity to be very plainspoken and clear as he was in his statement of which by the way was very tough on her, and not the -- he didn't indict, but he did in effect not legally, but indict her credibility and her honesty by some of the comments that he made. and you know, i think he'll be trust fine. i'm not concerned about his performance. i do think, chris, there is this broader issue of if there appears to be a double standard here and no consequence, what does it mean about broadly speaking protecting our national secrets, which as you know, tens of thousads of americans who are in these sensitive positions are asked to do everyday. >> true. and if you have people indicted for things that don't rise to the level of criminality, that's not a great system either. let me ask you something else --

>> agree. >> it doesn't get enough attention, let's give it some right now. opioids are presenting a scourge, because it is coming out of the medicine cabinets and doctors are pushing it along. what can be done? >> chris, i totally agree with you. it is an epidemic now, and i say that not lightly. it is a crisis. i just got off the phone with someone from akron, ohio. they had 15 overdoses in one city in ohio. we believe there are 200,000 people who are addicted in ohio, the size of the city of akron. it is the number one cause of dent accidental death, surpassing car accidents. as you know, in new york state, some of the same issues have occurred. this is something that has to be addressed in a more comprehensive way and in a

different way. legislation i've been pushing basically says let's divert people from the criminal justice system into treatment. let's be much more aggressive on the prevention and education. you mentioned prescription drugs. four out of five heroin addicts probably started with prescription drugs. many of those, chris, started with getting a painkiller. i have two families have come to me in ohio, i've been working on this for over two decades now, and i have people come up to me and talk to me. two families have come to say their teenager got a prescription drug for extraction of a wisdom tooth that led to an addiction that led to heroin, that led to that young man and young woman dying. so i mean, we do have to deal with this prescription issue. part of the legislation has a new national awareness program, making this connection between the overprescribing you are talking about and the overdoses and the deaths. and that has to be out there, otherwise, more and more people will make these bad choices.

finally, i would say that law enforcement plays a big role, as do the firefighters and others, first responders, help in terms of training on how to deal with overdoses, more funding for narcan. the president has come on board and said he would like to see more funding too. i couldn't agree more. let's be sure the money is going to what we know works. sheldon whitehouse, we think will pass the house and senate over the next week. it says what works and let's get the money into those things that do work on treatment, recovery, preessentia prevention, education. >> we will follow this. we will work our hardest to get it out. >> you're raising aware nls by doing that and that will save lives, chris. >> that's part of the job. senator, thank you for being with us this morning. chris, our top stories, the back-to-back police shootings, killing two black men. the department of justice now investigating the one in baton rouge, as graphic cell phone

video comes to light. louisiana's governor joins us next.

protests in louisiana, after police in baton rouge shot a black man, multiple times while he was pinned to the ground. the justice department launching an investigation into the shooting. this is the death of 37-year-old alton sterling and new video shedding new light. let's bring in louisiana's governor, john bel edwards. thanks for being here, governor. >> good morning, alisyn. thank you. >> so this new graphic video is actually a closer perspective of this deadly encounter than the one we had that was from across the street. it is terribly disturbing, because you see a man pinned on the ground, and police wrestling with him and then he is shot to the play person, it seems as though that was excessive force. it seems as though that didn't have to happen. what did you think when you watched this video? >> well, as i said yesterday, i

find the video disturbing. it calls into the question whether the use of deadly force was reasonable and appropriate under the circumstances, and clearly, that's the concern that we have here in the community in baton rouge and that's why we're undertaking a thorough and impartial investigation by calling in u.s. department of justice civil rights division to lead that investigation. so the people here in baton rouge will have some con confidence that that will be done with transparency. >> governor, if it turns out the investigation does prove that excessive force was used here, what can you do to change the culture in your state or in baton rouge of policing? >> well, first of all, we can always put new and renewed emphasis on training, making sure that the police officers have the best training possible when it comes to protecting and serving the public. we also have to do a better job

of maintaining relations between law enforcement and the communities they serve. there is an awful lot we can do. in fact, i've been in conversation with the superintendent of the state police here, and other law enforcement agencies around the state and louisiana, the sheriffs and so forth to see what we can do. >> governor, it should be said that you are getting kudos for your quick response. just a few hours after that first cell phone video came to light, you came out publicly. you held the press conference. you called upon federal authorities to help you with the investigation. you are addressing this head on. but at the same time, let's look at the history of the baton rouge police department. we do know a few stats that can put this into context. let me pull it up for people. these are some of the complaints against police officers there. there were 114 complaints against officers in 2014. 35 examples of use of force complaints.

zero charges, though, against officers after all of that. one more statistic i want to show, baton rouge police shootings, in 2011, officers shot and killed a man after a traffic sigh legs. 2013, after a car chase. 2014, wounds aidman who allegedly fired at them. 2015, a man died after officers used a stun gun to subdue him. obviously, police officers should be able to use their firearm in the course of their job if they're confronting danger. but do you think something is going wrong in baton rouge? >> well, first of all, we always have to examine that and make sure that we're doing the best we can to serve the communities through law enforcement. and i will tell you, i come from a family of law enforcement families, four consecutive generations of sheriffs. i have tremendous respect across louisiana and across the country. we have to understand that the overwhelming majority are doing a great job everyday, with great

risk to themselves. that should always be part of the equation. where we find will is excessive force being used without justification, we obviously have to address that. this is going to be an ongoing process, not just here in louisiana or in baton rouge, but across the country. we're committed to doing that. right now, we're trying to focus on the situation at hand, going that far back in time, i'm not sure it is helpful. it is certainly not my most immediate concern, but going frfr forward, we're committed to doing better. >> thank you very much for making time for "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's get over to chris. all right, these incidents never stay isolated. it always reverberates through the community and reflects what they believe is the reality. that's what we're seeing in baton rouge right now. outrage is growing in the deadly police shooting of philando castile near st. paul, minnesota. we're going to speak with keith ellison about what we see in is

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morning about the back-to-back police shootings that have been caught on tape and now gripping the country. there have been two black men killed in deadly encounters with police in just a couple of days. one in minnesota, and this shocking video that was posted by that man's girlfriend that has many questioning the police officers actions leading up to that shooting, and what happened afterwards. congressman keith ellison is a democratic from minnesota and the progressive caucus. thank you for being here. we want to talk about what happened in your home state outside of st. paul there. have you seen this video that the girlfriend posted of this incident? >> yes, i have. i've seen it several times. it is deeply disturbing. but i must praise her for her presence of mind to get that live stream going, because if it were not for that live stream, of course, you would have this,

you know, this sort of mishmash of he had a gun, no, i didn't. yes, he did. he pulled it, no he didn't. but because we have documentary evidence, it is very clear that she -- that he was complying, that he was -- she was calm. he apparently was calm, and we hear panic in the voice of the officer, who tries to justify what he just did. right there on the tape. >> yeah. >> and clearly, clearly, there needs to be accountability. i support congresswoman betty mccullum and her call for an investigation from the justice department. the city of st. anthony is shared by both of us. and you know, what happened in st. paul, but our districts are contiguo contiguous. this is something i grieve with her and the family and the whole community about. clearly this is not the first time this has happened. last winter, jamar clark,

unarmed african-american man shot down, community outrage, so much outrage, people occupied the streets, where he was shot down and killed in front of the police department. >> yeah. >> when there is no justice, when there is no justice, people are driven to extremes. and so the justice system must produce justice. or people -- because people will not just live in a state of unjust 't unjustice. >> we don't know what happened in the moments leading up when the girlfriend recorded it, but she is testifying in real time, and what she is testifying live is that he had a concealed carry permit, a license to carry a gun. he offered that up to the officer. he declared that -- philando said that to the officer. the officer asked him then for his license, philando was reaching for the license, according to the girlfriend and that's when he was shots. we just had on philando's mother

and his uncle. and they -- >> i saw that. >> they felt his only offense, they said, was being black at the wrong time in the wrong place. let me play for you what they said. >> they say there is no profiling, but it is. it is. we're being hunted. everyday. it is a silent war against african-american people as a whole. i want my leaders to step up and hold these people accountable. >> look, she is calling for accountability from her leaders. what can you do about that feeling that she has that black people in her community are being hunted? >> well, first thing is that i am one of those black people who lives in her community who has felt like i'm on the other side of justice myself. my own son had a gun aimed at him during the protests i mentioned with jamar clark.

i mean, look, this is -- she is channeling the feelings of so many people, two tiered justice system, impugnty, lack of accountability. i could tell you in jamar clark's case, we did win getting rid of the grand jury and really, urged and set a precedent with the prosecutor will have to evaluate the evidence independently and not use the grand jury to escape accountability. i expect that will be similar pattern here. but could i tell you this. we may not know exactly what happened before the tape rolls. but given the calm and the narration that diamond gives us, i think we have a pretty good idea of what happened. i think -- i believe her. and so i just think that, you know, look, this is not isolated. you know, this situation down in

baton rouge, eric garner, mike brown, tamir, sandra bland, systematic accountability when police use excessive force. this is a national problem. it is deeply disturbing. and it has real life effects. one is that riots, people riot when they feel that there is no justice. i don't condone it. but i understand it. and you know, the other effect is the dis -- people tend to not trust law enforcement, so they don't even report crimes any more, because they think law enforcement is not a friend. and so i mean, there are real life tangible effects to failure of accountability and impugnty, so i'm hoping there will be a robust prosecution in this case, and others in the future. >> congressman, we're going to let you go. before we do, we want to read

the first response from a presidential candidate to this. this is the one you support, bernie sanders. he has just tweeted the violence that killed sterling and castile has become all too common, an occurrence for people of color and it must stop. we expect to hear more responses from the candidates today. congressman ellison, thank you very much for your response to all of this. >> thank you, ma'am. some good news on the front, alisyn, secretary clinton came out with a statement about the shooting yesterday. donald trump talked about unemployed black youth last night. so many issues that go into the problems in those communities. maybe we'll start talking about them more. no question that we have incentive right now with these back-to-back shootings. the mother of one victim told us that her son was black in the wrong place. that was his crime. is there a bigger issue here that we ignore except during these flash points? we have activist, d.l.hughley,

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that too often accompanies these shootings with police and black men across the country. it has happened again. this time, they're back-to-back shootings, literally one day after the other. one in baton rouge, one in st. paul, just overnight. one of the people who has taken

this on as a cause is actor and comedian and commentator of things political and cultural, d.l. hughley. i'm going to tell the audience, you're the author of "black man, white house." the window into hughley is, seen in your reaction to these recent events. tell us why you felt it mattered to get up, get online and start talking about this. >> well, i don't think that these events are recent. i've watched them in los angeles, whether it be ron settles, ula love, rodney king, the only difference between now and then is the apparatus we use to view these from. it used to be video cams and newspapers, and now it is camera phones. ultimately, i think this is something america is comfortable with. you can't keep seeing a thing over and over again, without

being complicit. this is the way things have to happen in order for people to maintain safety. it is a rough job, but they have to do or none of us will be safe. it is hard to take, knowing you have sons and nephews and daughters and wives and to watch them be brutelized. we take the young man, castile, by all accounts had a legal right to carry that weapon. he was pulled over by the police. he gave -- he submitted to police authority, he was going to give them an i.d. and he was shot the interesting thing is, if he in fact did the right to carry the weapon, where is the nra, where is the second amendment proponents. where are the people, who should be angry right now. it is interesting that if people were looking for his criminal record, they would have found it right away. the fact that this man was carrying a legally licensed firearm and pulled over by the police in a state where you can legally carry. why wasn't the first question, why was it so aggressive from the beginning. it can't be unusual to find --

just like louisiana, you can carry a gun there, am minnesota, you can carry a gun, so finding people with guns, police officer finding people with guns, can't be unusual. why is it handled one way for a man of color and the other way. >> that is the big question no matter where this happens, how it happens, is it a different set of rules. do police, whether they're black or -- >> of course it is. of course it is. >> police people of color differently. the family this morning -- >> there is not -- >> the family this morning for context, the own thing he was guilty of was being black at the wrong time and in the wrong place. >> you know, you know, the truth comes naked. a lie got to put on its pants. what is the biggest difference. why is one treated one way. even if we look at alton sterling, even if that man was guilty of that, what was the aggressive tactics. if he had a gun, why wasn't the

question, are you legally -- legal rights to carry this gun, as opposed to shouting he has a gun. we are comfortable watching black men and black people and brown people be brutelized and allot of people feel like this is the way things are and have to be. it is no different than people who like steak don't want to see the cow get slaughtered. why is it that we'll see a video recording of somebody doing -- a suspect doing something, and that, you'll hear the prosecutor say the evidence is right here. we have everything we need. when you see a police officer doing something on video, we don't know what happened. we don't know what precipitated this. we don't know what frame of mind he was in. presumption of guilt on some people's part and on the other side it is different. >> it is complicated, right. what will happen is -- >> it can't be complicated. >> people will say, hold on. let's look at why this happens. the police has a lot more interaction with men of color. men of color are responsible

for -- >> that is not true. that is not true. >> that's what they say. >> that is not true. 90 -- according to department of. >> us 'ti-- virtually everyone, how is it obviously there are more white men than black men. they have more interaction with white men than they do black men. it is black on black crime. >> and police shoot -- >> the notion of black -- >> police shoot and kill black people disproportionately to white people as well. >> obviously. you know, the notion, black on black crime would mean there is no other kind of crime. you've never heard anything described, colorado, a man goes in and shoots 19 people. people kill what they're around. people kill what they're around. proximity. the husbands kills wives. it is a fact of human existence. but to equate it with some kind of mental failing, and then to use it as an excuse to summarily execute people is immoral.

it is the type of thing that america seems to be used to. there is no escaping. it is an indictment on our society. >> it is obvious, as it is immoral, because everybody should know that the controlling factor here when it comes to inner city crime, why don't you talk about chicago more, with well, we do talk about it, but that's about poverty. >> all the time. >> color as well, but because they don't want to talk about poverty. >> the biggest -- they don't, because the biggest determining factor in crime is poverty, and you know, it is amazing. people always tell you to put down guns, but never tell you to pick up applications, pick up opportunity, pick up education. to me, it is the reason that these things are happening, because technology allows us to see ourselves. the only way anybody changes anything, whether you want to lose weight or change your appearance is to see yourself. if america likes what it sees, then we have no choice but to