that. again, they're here with small children. they're obviously not frightened. no one is hiding or taking cover. they're going about praying. they're going about paying their respects at the same time less than 25 yards away. the police vehicles blocking the roadways. the officers that are out. you can see some officers in the distance. they are now wearing head cover. that's the kind of juxtaposition that you see here. they're not going to be made afraid, the people aren't. at the same time you can tell the city is fearful. i look at the windows. there are people up against these windows and they are watching everything else that is happening out on their street. there's people in hotels that are on the roof tops that are looking out. it may be out of curiosity. it may be out of concern. the streets are lined with people who are kept on the out

skirts. to focus, whether they are visually looking at it, this town is very aware of what is happening. you can sense the dread even if the posture doesn't look like something is desperately imminent. >> it's a fair question, i wonder just, i don't want to make any conclusions. based on the fact that you still have people moving in front of the headquarters which is very close as the crow flies to where this police parking lot is. does that give you the sense they have contained the area of risk? >> yeah. you would not be having the public have access. even the media would not have this casual ability to walk around if it was felt that the threat on the front side or by the entrance the police department here was the real area of focus.

it's clear. you got a huge police building that's separating us from the building in question, which is the police parking lot. that's the primary factor here is the architecture is proving to be the saving of most of the people here. they aren't out to create panic. definitely not. they're out to just secure and much of the activity will be focused inside the parking area. they know this is a town that's traumatized but they also know this is a town that can't let its guard down. that's a very difficult situation with police. you had the mayor proclaiming our city is safe but then here you have the police out on the street an area of the city, the heart of its police department on lockdown. you can see the mixed message p. people understand. you want to air on the side of

caution. >> it's a delicate balance that police have to strike. they want to give people confidence. they want them to feel safe but they want to exercise caution where necessary. martin savidge. if you're joining us now, i want to update you on this situation. the first reports are often -- aren't correct. we've been doing our best here. what we know now, dallas police received a threat. we know that they are now systematically searching, they say, a parking lot just behind the police headquarters. in fact, as they've done that search, they've been breaching some gates there. they use a shotgun. they warn the public they will use a shotgun to breach the gate. we know they set up a security further around a few blocks in

each direction. we have several cnn reporters in and around. we have some inside. there are still members of the public inside that security. as they watch the posture of the police, they're not hiding behind the cruisers. they're not telling members of the public to hit the deck. they're taking this seriously, but it does not appear to be an active shooter situation from what we can tell from the ground now. that could change at any moment and we're going to update you as it happens. we have received a request to not allow broadcast around the police station. we're complying with that

request from the dallas police department. i want to bring this cnn law enforcement analyst cedric alexander. he's on the phone. thanks for joining us again here. as you watch all these steps that the police are taking, help our viewers understand why they're doing that and what that tells us about how serious this threat is. >> you have to remember just 36 hours ago dallas came up a very horrific violent act and whatever is going on there at police headquarters at this very moment, they're taking all precaution. they're not taking with any chances. they are pushing their perimeter out and keep everyone safe but also more importantly than that it appears what they're doing, whatever they may be searching for that it's being reported of a suspicious person it's going to take some time. the reason they're asking you not to put any cameras on their location is so that we have to remember that the bad guys have

the same kind of technology that they use just as much as we do. so, that was a very smart move on their part. this is going to be a very patient operation. it's going to take some time but i think it's important to remember that that city and this entire country is feeling the stres stores of what happened a day half ago. this is a very difficult and challenging time. they want to be safe. we want dallas and officers and communities to be safe. i think we just continue to monitor this and take whatever information there releasing to us is to be careful not to read too much into it but allow them to be able to do their search there at police headquarters and in and around that community. i'm more than certain as the minutes and hours go by they're

going to share more information with us. >> i'm sure they will. they will want to let the public know as soon as this threat, there is a threat is neutralized, they want to take care of it. they want to take precautions but give the public confidence when they reach that point that they can do so. what are police sharing with you now? >> they are continuing to sweep through that parking garage area. as you see the body language of the officers out here on the street much more relaxed.

what has changed the most is what we can tell is from the beside language. how much of the officers are sharing any kind of information out here on the scene. all that coming through official channels here at this point but much more relaxed scene in terms of watching the officers and how they are moving around. >> they just lost five of their colleagues. that posture is telling. if they are looking more relaxed and not taking precautions if there was an active shooter on thoughts of an active shooter telling members of the public to

leave, run, go, taking precautions, getting behind their cruisers. having their weapons drawn. these are things to be clear to our viewers we are not seeing on the ground there. we're going to watch this closely. that could be telling about what they discovered inside that parking lot as they have taken this precaution of searching it there. let's be fair, from the beginning the police have said they are taking these threats very seriously. they're going to act with an abundance of caution and you would expect them to. art is still with us here. again, we can't make any judgments here. these things change on a dime. as we hear from our reporters that police close to the scene of this are looking relaxed. what does that tell you? >> i think we've talked about it before. the demeanor or the stature of the police is a key cater of how

heavy duty this threat is. although they have extended the perimeter out quite a ways, they seem to have established a well shaped outer perimeter and they have the swat team working on the inner perimeter. it seems they have the situation under control. >> let me interrupt you to share this latest information from the dallas police information. they say officers have completed a plan ymanual search of this g. no suspect found. that i have just followed that tweet up with this one saying that as a precautionary measure, canine is conducting a secondary search. the canine, the dog search, the canine search which will be explosives trained, able to smell threats like that. that potentially the relief we've been waiting for.

you're down there on the scene, ed. do you have the sense they're getting close to calling it all clear here? >> i'm definitely getting that sense. a parking garage is very dangerous situation for officers. there's a lot of places to be if it was a suspect in there waiting to cause harm to officers. very easily place to hide and lay traps. whether explosive traps or human traps. whatever the case may be. you can imagine for teams searching that area has to be one of the more difficult situations to monitor and to check out. obviously the number one issue for them is ensuring the safety of their own officers. navigating their way through a parking garage has got to be one of the more treacherous

assignments and missions that they have to do. that would explain the very methodicm methodical and slow approach of what we saw and now we're starting to see officers more freely move around that have been kind of holding barricaded positions behind cars and trees around that parking garage. now starting to see a much more relaxed atmosphere here. >> parking garage difficult to search under any circumstances. a parking garage was where that shooter was hiding, eventually killed after killing the five police officers in the early morning hours friday morning. we're not there yet. police have not declared an all clear here but they have given some good news just in the last five minutes. one, that they've completed the search of this building they have been focusing on. that's the parking garage behind the police headquarters. they were hands on in there. there were police in there searching. no suspect found.

they're now taking a secondary search with canine units. these are dog search teams. i want to go to drew griffin. drew, what are you seeing and learning there? >> i'm seeing a helicopter moving in. very low. we have not seen that. they have been given the all clear or the helicopter doesn't feel in danger. we're also seeing for the first time since this began apartment building in the back. i'm seeing people coming out on the balcony now and taking a look. you asked if there were any evacuations of the residential units. there was not. perhaps there was some kind of warning to stay all the balconies because we're seeing people on the ball kconies. this perimeter is wide. we're waiting to see those guys

get in and pull away. everybody just waiting to get back to normal. >> i suppose we should prepare ourselves, the people in dallas, our viewers this kind of footing. the police department, certainly in dallas, but not confined to dallas are concerned now. they're going to take threats seriously now. they always do, perhaps more seriously in light of what we saw happening in dallas before. i want to bring in art. you've been in law enforcement a long time. should we be bracing ourselves for this kind of state of alert. these kinds of warnings. some of which will turn out. thankfully it appears to have not been a threat. is this a new normal.

>> we're only talking about 30 hours ago this incident occurred. we have the rnc and dnc. i'm sure security will be ramped up for those events in the coming weeks. >> no doubt. they were concerned about securities. security about protests getting violent, about protest interaction with police, about protesters interacting with supporters of candidates. it's something we'll be watching for and likely to see. thanks very much. i want to go to our stephanie

elam. she's been down been the scene there. stephanie, are you able to show us pictures. you're back. cameras are back on. before we turned the cameras off. what are you seeing there and what are you hearing now? >> i'm back in front of camera. we're still not shooting down towards the police headquarters because they said that preliminary check turned up nothing but they're going through with the second canine check. we're not going to rush the gun here and make a decision that may be too fast here. i can tell you that there's something that reminds me a bit of when i was on ucla campus a few weeks ago. there is a definite stiffening of posture. there's a stiffness. the same thing happened out here with the police officers on the street. you can tell there was a change in tone as far as as they were looking at what was going on here. there are now some police officers that are standing in

the middle of street. there's some on the sides. it seems things have relaxed here even with the helicopter that flew over police headquarters. they had been keeping their distance up until a couple of minutes ago. a change in energy and tone out here. jim. >> stephanie, thanks very much. ed, i know you've been speaking to police and at times they asked you not to share certain information as a precaution. are police sharing more with you now about the status of this search and next steps? >> the group of officers that were around us are more focused on the traffic situation and the remaining crowd control situation. the officers that were on the perimeter of that parking garage outside of it as teams and swat teams were moving through on the inside have cleared out of the area. another one of those indications that this is probably coming to

a quick end here at some point. also looks like one of police choppers has moved in over the scene that's staying a safe distance back as well as it monitored the situation from the air. i think what -- what i think i'm seeing is the preparation of wa waiting for that final all clear as the canine units finish up inside and reopen the road here. still a number of people that live across from the police department. there's also a dart rail line behind that parking garage. a lot of the work being done right now is the preparations to reopen up all those thoroughfares and get things

back to normal. >> to be clear about something if this threat turns out and it appears the direction it's headed not to have been a threat, to be clear the police, did the police tell you they had received some sort of anonymous threat by phone, e-mail, social media before this focus on the parking lot. >> there's a number of reports that said it was a credible threat and given the reaction and response to what has happening the dallas police department very much took it that way. i think it's important to point out as people have been mourning here what's happened since thursday night the dallas police department has been just the grounds around it has become a focal point. the shooting scene has been several square blocks around the area and been closed off as

investigators work the crime scene there collecting evidence, shell casings and that sort of thing. the dallas police department headquarters has become a focal point in a place where people have come for shows of emotion and showing their gratitude and affection for the officers of the police department. it was the police department who put out two police cars there and as you've seen that vigil grow over the last couple of days, obviously police know a situation like that it's created in and of itself becomes a soft target as well. you have a public place where people are coming to mourn. it's not the place where people gather. not thinking about what kind of threats there might have been. it's also important to point out, i think it was a year and a half ago or so, there was a public attack on the dallas police headquarters. this is a department that's not

only hear in last couple of days dealt with this but it was a gunman who pulled up in front of headquarters. i think it was a bt about a year and a half ago and he opened fire on the building. any kind of threat in this immediate area, they take seriously. this kind of response i'm not surprised by given the direct attack that the killings had on their department and what they've already dealt with in the last couple of years. i'm not surprised by the kind of reaction this particular threat received. >> thanks very much. we have martin savidge back. he's been in front of police headquarters throughout this. there was a time police asked him not to be on camera or just not to broadcast or report at all. i believe we have you back now.

>> i'm with you. they're not in that same kind of they're heading were looking in every direction they possibly could, usually every two seconds. we've lost that edge and so that would indicate they received some communication that told them we're getting close to some kind of resolution here. they have not opened up the streets yet. we are, like everyone else, sort of waiting and watching. there's definitely not that

electric feel of almost anything could happen any second. so, you can sense it's changed and changed for the better. >> martin, have police told you why the focus on that parking garage? what led to the attention there? did they see someone? did they hear something? what was the origin of this? >> we have not been told that. the police that are manning these roadblocks don't talk. you either can't come in or go to the other side of the street. they will issue orders but they're not taking questions. some of it is they may not have been informed what this threat was or how it came in.

we're not seeing the helmets on. they're not communicating to us on the scene exactly what happened or whether it's all over and they're about to open things up. the streets are still closed. police are still here. flashing lights are evident and a lot of people are still watching. i want to remind people of the broader context we have talked about. the security threat there. the above abundance of caution but there's also the emotional side. here you are there in front of police station where there's this touching memorial that's built over these two police cruisers. we're not showing pictures of it now because they've asked us not to broadcast there in light of this threat. here is a still photo. people were coming there today to pay tribute to these fallen officers, to med at a time, to say a prayer and here they are chased away by a threat or perceived threat.

it must be difficult. they wanted a moment of peace. the police, the people, the public wanted a moment of peace and yet because of the level of threat, they had to leave. they had to leave not in panic but they had had to leave out of real fear. >> there are people that are still here. they are continuing to pay their respects. this is the emotional epicenter. this is not where the shooting happened but it's the place where people have been drawn because of the memorial that's grown. there's also been officers in front of building. this has been that opportunity for people to come up and speak to an officer. you see a lot of hugs. kr you see a lot of photographs and a lot of families posing with police. not at this moment but that was the atmosphere here today. you see people on their knees praying in tears. in the depth of grief, you see

where parents are talking to children and this is a learning moment as you try to explain to a child what's happened. there's all of this that's happening. this is the place where people come to grieve, cry or pray or to contemplate what comes next. it's all kinds of people. there's no sort of one kind that we see here. it's all kinds of people. police are waving somebody through the police line. the roadblocks are still here. it's relaxed a natch or two. we're likely to go through these kind of aftershocks. these emotional aftershocks. you're going to have these moments.

>> it's a good metaphor, the aftershocks following major quake. it was an earthquake, these shootings just some 36 hours ago. i wonder as a country we have to prepare for this kind of thing going forward. these warnings, some of them will have to turn out false. that's the situation we're in today. we're going to have to prepare themselves and brace ourselves and we're supposed to stick together in the midst of it. i think it's great that martin brought that up. a lot of what folks have been doing before this and while it's going on, they have been going and hugging police officers there. police officers there are members of community as well. we're all members of the same community. art, if you're still there with

me, it's been great to have you. it's been great to have someone experienced in law enforcement. police forces, they want to strike a balance. their focus is on keeping people safe and sadly now keeping themselves safe. they're under threat. they are literally in the line of fire and always have been, more so now. they want to give the public confidence and comfort. >> you have a great chief brown. the assistant chief is very good and it comes from leadership and all these communities. they have the police departments reach out to these communities on a regular basis.

it's a shame it occurred here, or anywhere in the u.s., but tis police department has been held up as a model. it's a very delicate balance between arming yourself between these type of incidents and yet serving the community and remembering that you're here to serve the community. s it is a tough balance. we're starting to see the swing back to this community policing that we used to do in the '80s and the early '90s where you have beat cops out there that knew the people at the stores. that knew the neighborhood, that knew the kids running on the street and we're seeing a bit of a shift back to that type of policing. >> let's hope so. let's really hope so. all sides want that better relationship, that more trusting relationship.

police searched the entire parking lot. first with officers on foot then with canine units. these are trained canine units, dogs. we're waiting for now for an all clear. we don't have an all clear yet. this was the police acting in an abundance of caution there. as they did, they cleared a pretty large area around that police headquarters. five blocks or so in each direction. police cruisers blocking streets. our reporters on the ground sense the police are relaxing. it seems to be they have eliminated or found no threat where they perceive there to be a threat.

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welcome back. we at cnn have been monitoring a sense security situation in dallas around the police headquarters there. attention focusing on a police parking lot. police searched the parking lot on foot and with canine units for a potential threat. our understanding at this point is they have not found a threat there or a suspicious person found in that garage. they have yet to issue the all clear. the police state of alert seemed to relax as time has gone on.

we continue to monitor. i want to go first to the ground there. we have our own stephanie elam. what are you seeing and hearing in these last few minutes? >> there were officers arm and at different points. it's another sign that things have eased on the street. we also saw a swat like vehicle seem to pull around and we saw officers get out of it as well. on this side of the building there's been a change in energy down from where those two police cars that have become the memorial for the five fallen officers right there in front of police headquarters. it's still blocked off. there's a change in tone about what is happening here. you can see officers in the street. it seems less tense when i look down the street now. a change of energy here.

we have not been given the all clear. the police department making it clear this was not a lock down. they were looking for suspicious person. nothing was turned up. as another precaution they're going through with the canine unit and we'll wait for the all clear which has yet to come. >> they took a lot of precautions including the search. they activated a swat team just in case. thankfully these are tools they can't have to use in the end. that said we still don't have that all clear. i want to go to drew griffin. he's on another side of this. are you seeing any relaxation there? >> not at all. we keep waiting for this officer to jump in his vehicle and pull away and give us the all clear. i want to add to your conversation with art talking about whether or not this is the new normal. i've been working on a story concerning the threats being made social media and internet sites against police departments

nationwide before the attack that took place here in dallas. there is a heightened sense of alert of police being potential targets across the country. when you see maybe this is an overexaggeration or over precaution, the police know especially here in dallas that they have been targeted and there has been this kind of call to attack police. they're being extremely cautious not just with the public safety but with themselves. that's the backdrop here as we watch what hopefully is a false alarm. >> no question. it's fair point. this particular alarm may not have been born out, but keep in mind the police did receive an anonymous threat. that is real. this may be an abundance of caution but a very understandable one as police react to this.

it remains a delicate balance for police to strike. they want to protect and serve. they want to keep themselves safe but they also want people to feel safe. >> you're exactly right, jim. it is a very tough balance here. i think what you're seeing now is really what we just been talking about. this is going to be the new normal, unfortunately. as you recall as we move through in changing the way we respond to active shooters, any time there's any call at all now, everything, everybody rolls out. everything shows up. it takes a while for that all clear to be given. we're seeing the same thing here. the chief is being very cautious here as is every police department around the country for any of these incidents that occur now within their cities. you're going to see this type of response and this type of caution as they move through to clear the particular situation.

>> thanks very much. i want to go to martin savidge. he's been in front of police lawyers there. we continue not to broadcast live the images from there in and around the police headquarters. this is at the request of the police as they were responding to this threat. they do tot want to give any potential perpetrators a heads up as to what movements they were taking. what's the latest you're seeing and hearing? >> the roadblocks are still here. i asked one of officers going by me, i said is it over. he just said, no, not that i've heard, and not that we've heard. the flashing lights are still on and the immediate perimeter around the police station. not the same kind of edge that you felt. they're engaging members of the media here. they're talking. it's mostly friendly. that attitude has changed. the area is still blocked off immediately in front of the

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welcome back. we continue to coverage an going security situation around the dallas police department headquarters. the attention focused on the police parking lot. a suspect possibly seen inside. police searched the parking lot first on foot and then with canine units. they did not find someone. they have not issued an all clear yet but reporters on the ground have seen the security posture relax somewhat in the last half hour, hour or so. we continue to monitor. the police acting out of an abundance of caution. we know the police have received direct threats. this is real. this is serious, and it's situation that they have to handle and will likely have to handle going forward as many police departments and many

american communities are facing today. we have a whole team of reporters in the area there. i want to begin, if i can, with drew griffin. he's been at the security that the police have set up. you've been watching to see if police are ready to relax it. have you noticed that yet? >> jim they are ready -- >> drew, one brief interruption. i'm sorry. the dallas police department has just tweeted first and second floors have been cleared. police employees have been allowed to access their vehicles and leave. safe enough for police to go into that parking lot, get into their vehicles and leave. another step forward, but from where you are, drew, they haven't yet relaxed. >> no, they haven't. that's one thing that people

have been pointing out to us. people who are outside this perimeter now for a couple of hours trying to get home to their residences. questioning how anybody could have gotten that close to the police department or got into an actual garage where mostly police officers park. i'm sure we'll find that or what kind of a witness actually saw something or thought they saw something. but again, the perimeter, jim, remains. we're about four to five blocks outside it. these police officers have been here from the get go. they have evacuated all the civilians that they could find that were just outside. we did not see any residences actually being evacuated. but it has just been this kind of standoff ever since as the s.w.a.t. teams and dog teams now go to work as you said clearing the first two floors, presumably

moving out to the rest of the floors. out of an abundance of caution after what we saw happened in this city. >> yes, another tweet they say that the search of the third floor now of this parking lot will conclude now in a few minutes. no suspicious person or items found inside. as drew mentioned there, we don't know who called in this potential threat. but remember, this is what police have been telling us for a long time. and that is if you see something say something. whether or not this turns out to have been a real threat, a real suspicious person that guidance remains the same. they want us, members of the public, to call in if we see something suspicious. better to act out of an abundance of caution than not to act. if you see something, say something, i want to go to my

colleague, stephanie elam, she is outside the headquarters. stephanie, have you seen anything out there? >> reporter: definitely, i would say there were two s.w.a.t.-like san joaqu vehicles that just left the area -- >> stephanie, we have what we have been waiting for, for sometime, i'll share it with you, that they issued an all-clear. the dallas police department saying this threat is all clear. it is no longer a security situation there. and stephanie, i imagine as they issue that you're seeing police movement that reflect that all-clear call. ? >> completely, it was almost as if on cue, it was like all the officers heard it at the exact same time. they're opening up this street now. the police officers yelling to get the cars out of here to have the cars on the right side of

traffic. but it was all at the same time that the two s.w.a.t. vehicles left and the police started to get the road open here. the police officers are leaving. we've seen a couple of civilian cars pull out of here, too. it was like a blanket was just lifted off this area of dallas here so that they can go back to what they need to be doing. and if you really think about what that means for these officers who feel like this -- i mean, think about how rough this week has been, how they have been targeted and lost people. they have people that they love that they work with that have been injured. and just a thought about the memorial that was up in front of the police station is something i can tell you that is very american. it doesn't matter who has been lost or who has been died we always, always find that people go to one place where they want to remember those who lost their lives. and that is the same thing here, something i have seen across the country. and it's very important for people to be able to get up

there to the two police cars to pay the respects and remember those police officers for what they've done. opening this back up is meaningful for people here who want to go to convey their support and love for these officers here in dallas, jim. >> stephanie elam, thank you. we're seeing live pictures there. now police cars leaving this around the security cordon, that they is set up several blocks around the police parking lot. they just tweeted that the search is concluded and we have word from the dallas police department that all-clear has been issued section by section of this area. this is the police department that lost five of its officers, 36-some odd hours ago. it's a police department that has received real threats and continues to receive those threats and they take those

threats seriously. so when they saw, heard reports of a suspicious person they acted. here they are now saying out of an abundance of caution, officers secured the garage to maybe sure the suspicious person was thoroughly investigated. all right, thanks to this happy ending to this alert. >> now, absolutely, and jim, one thing i wanted to point out, too, is that can you imagine what these police officers feel like over the last 36 hours? adrenalin pump, and then release. a leng adrenalin pump, and then release. and so now they have to start unfortunately burying their heroes which again will create another heightened state of alert in the city of dallas. >> art roderick, thank you very

much for joining us throughout the tense afternoon. that tweet from the chief, great job by our officers. a sense of relief for the people there and public and people in dallas. before we leave you tonight, a reminder of just why this city of dallas has been so on edge. the vicious killing of five officers, little more than 36 hours ago. i want to show you some of the messages people left outside the dallas police headquarters where this large memorial continues to grow around those two police cruisers. ♪ ♪

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