tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 14, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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tv the driver opened fire before slamming into the crowd. you can hear the gunshots in this amateur video. [ gunshots ] >> witnesses say the man drove two kimlometers. the video of the attack is graphic and disturbing. [ screaming ] mom! >> terrifying scenes there. authorities say the truck riddled with bullet holes had firearms, grenades and explosives inside. police are trying to determine if the identity card of a
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31-year-old french man found in the truck's cab matches the body of the driver. france president hollande says nobody can deny this was a terrorist attack and he wants the state of emergency extended another three months. >> he was angry and cold and direct. he says france is stronger than terror. >>. >> translator: transhas been struck on a day of the national holiday, the 14th of july, bastille day, symbol of unity because human rights are denied by fanatics and france is quite clearly their target. i express, on behalf of the nation that we show our solidarity towards the victims and their families. >> reporter: we're joined now live from paris. becky, bring us up to speed. what is the latest you're
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hearing? >> reporter: what had been a day of celebration in france turning into a night of absolute carnage. while there is no claim of responsibility as of yet, as you have been reporting, authorities here saying we are at war with terrorists. let's go over what we do know specifically at this point. there were thousands of people on the promenade des anglais, which is the main route in nice, which is a southern french beach resort town. they were watching the fireworks. it was around 10:00 at night on what was bastille day when this white truck made its way down at around, witnesses say suggest, about 20 to 25 kilometers an hour and drove for a mile and a bit, maybe two kilometers is what witnesses describe on a road that are was supposed to be cordoned off so that people
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could enjoy the fireworks. as you have pointed out, it drove slowly, but people say swerving as a gunman shot from -- into the crowd from inside this truck and then it continued and it mowed people down in front of it as it continued. eventually, it was stopped by authorities and if police hadn't acted as quickly as they did, we're told things could have been a whole lot worse. as you rightly pointed out it is an awful situation. as the sun comes up here in paris and in nice, the evidence for all to see, at least 80 dead, including children. at least 18 people in intensive care. we're told, if not more. it could be that hundreds are injured. you've rightly reported that this truck was eventually stopped when police fired at the
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driver. the truck riddled with bullets. they found explosives, weapons and grenades in the back of the truck. as far as the identity of the gunman is concerned, there was an identity card found in the cab of this truck. it was of a tunesian, french, resident of nice. what authorities are trying to do is match the identity card with the body of the driver that was pulled from this truck after the event but witnesses describing total and utter carnage. they were absolutely terrified. people at first, we are told, believed that this truck had been going very slowly and knocked somebody over. it was only when witnesses described it as accelerating that other people realized this was an attack. a truck attack and the context for this of course, couldn't be worse. 18 months worth of time in france starting with the charlie
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hebdo attacks in january of 2015, the attacks on paris, 130 dead in shootings in november of last year and this state of emergency which was to have been lifted on july the 22nd may now be extended to at least october. that is certainly what the french president is asking for and he made an address to the nation and consider this, the address to the nation was at around, if i remember rightly now, around 3:30 in the morning, quite remarkable. an address not to the nation, clearly but to the world at large. it is now six minutes past 6 in the morning. this event some eight hours in the making but there will be those who only now waking up in france who went to bed on bastille day having absolutely no idea that this is what they would wake up to on the television sets and in the newspapers this morning, guys.
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>> becky, we'll get back to you later. thank you. we have more media from social media, more video rather from social media. it is graphic, but it has been edited so we can show it to you now. pure horror, joining us now is american paul delay. he joined us live from nice. tell us where exactly you were as this attack unfolded and what you saw. >> hi, well, i was on the promenade des anglais and we had just finished watching the fireworks show and we were heading back to where i live
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on -- not on the promenade des anglais but in the direction of where the truck was. we decided to stop for a minute or so sdwroujust to listen to t music because of the festivities going on and then suddenly there was screaming and people running, literally for their lives and i was shocked for a moment. i didn't know whether i should hide or if i should run with everybody. thank god my partner was with me. excuse me. >> paul, are you okay? paul? >> yeah. >> my partner was with me and he grabbed my hand and pulled me along and we just ran and i just thank god that we're safe and i feel just horrible for all of the lives lost and just to say
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that -- we were probably about 200 meters from where the truck had stopped. we couldn't see too much because of obviously everybody is running in the opposite direction and it was just more a case of not even looking back. you just had to run and people didn't even really know what they were running from yet. most people don't know what they were running from. they just knew that something terrible had happened and we had to get out of there as soon as possible. excuse my language. >> paul, it has been eight hours here. clearly you're very upset. how are you coping? >> i'm not coping very well, because, well, i haven't slept a wink since i got back to my place. i'm trying to contact my friends back in the states and my family to let them know that i'm fine.
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>> paul, we are all grieving with you and this is hematite a terrible moment for so many people. as you were running in that moment with your partner, what was going through your mind? what were you processing as you dashed away with the crowds? >> i was processing the fact really realizing how short life is and to value every moment that you have living and to live and love for now. that is what i was thinking of is that everything could have finished for me right then and there. and it wasn't my time. and i feel very lucky and i thank god for that. >> i understand you and your partner actually stopped at one
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moment to listen to some music, otherwise you believe you may have been hit by the truck? >> that is exactly it. that is precisely what i mean. i'm not a crowd person. i don't like going into crowds. i rarely, rarely do. my partner was here it was my birthday on the 13th of july. my 50th birthday. i thought, oh, we'll go down and i was even enjoying the music which i don't usually, and we did. we hung around for a couple more minutes and literally, literally, like, after those two minutes that we were standing there, that we could have been walking in that direction is when everybody started running. so, yeah music saved our lives. >> yeah, it certainly did. paul, how is your partner doing? >> he is coping engiin another .
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he has been quite silent about it. he is processing it in his own way. he is a very strong man. he is looking at this more, you know, with less emotion than i am. so to say. but he is pretty shocked as well. he can't believe this happened and his family, our family are just -- the phone hasn't stopped ringing to reassure everybody that we're fine. they knew we were here. i recently posted on facebook even all of my photos of the firewor fireworks. it was a shock to people when they discovered we were in the middle of it. >> yeah. >> paul, do you remember the moment when you realized that this wasn't an accident? this wasn't a driver who had lost control of the truck, that
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this was actually a premeditated attack to claim as many lives as possible? >> to tell you, i was so really, just so confused. i was just, i mean, i had my phone in my hand because we were taking pictures even of the music in the background. i turned on my camera and i said, well, if this is an attack, then i'm going to record it while i'm running, even as scared as i was, but yes, i realized yeah, there was this realization that yes, i was in the middle of a terrorist attack and that was why i said i didn't know whether i should hide or run because what if it was another crazy person, again, with another gun, just shooting randomly. what do you do? so yeah, i did realize it was a
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terrorist attack quite early into the moment. >> and paul, as you talk about shots being fired, did you hear the gunshots? did you hear the gunshots that were exchanged? did you see the police attempts to stop this truck? >> well, the thing is that there was an awful lot of confusion because of the fact that like i said, it was right in the center there. there were literally thousands -- maybe not thousands, but it seemed like thousands of people all around me, and the music was blasting and we were right near it. so if there were gunshots, there were obviously gunshots, but the people i was around where i was standing, we couldn't hear gunshots. we heard the music that was playing far toor loud. it kind of covered it, so it made people a little bit confused as well because they
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saw people running, they heard people screaming but they didn't necessarily hear gunshots, but then we all just, everybody just automatically just started to run because, well, when you see masses of people running like that, i guess a natural reaction was to run with them. but, no, i wasn't, i did not see any bodies on the ground. i did not see, even actually the truck. there are a lot of palm trees on the promenade des anglais and if you're near the ocean, your view is quite blocked and as well with the thousands, with all of the people running. i was looking in the way that i was running, actually. trying to get -- >> where did you -- >> where did you run to, paul, where did you end up? >> i ran all the way home to the train station -- or near the train station, i ran in the direction of the main streets
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and that is where everybody was running to, so that is the direction everybody was going to. in any case there, wasn't really much of a choice of the direction to run to, actually, you could continue along the promenade along the sea front or you could go to, near to the left where it goes to another place called. [ speaking in a foreign language ] and that is where you have one of the main streets of nice where you can go all the way up to the train, walk all the way up to the train station and that is what we did. we just walked and there were waves of panic. we would stop running and we would walk and then all of a sudden, there would be screaming again and people would start running and so we would run again with them and like i say, eventually we found ourselves in front of our apartment and just went inside and turned on the
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news and tried to relax, tried to calm down, and then digest everything that we had just experienced. >> paul, there are some reports that dozens of people just simply jumped into the sea to get away from the gunfire, from the truck. do you know anything about that? did you see that? >> i'm sure. there were people running in all directions. there were people running, trying to go, run into hotels, there were people running into tunnels and to where there was a parking area. the people were just running for cover. like i said, most of the people didn't even see actually what was happening, but they knew that something was happening as they had to run and they had to hide, so it doesn't surprise me when you say people were jumping into the sea. i didn't see that, but, yeah, i mean it is very much a possibility because really it
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was one of the largest crowds i've seen, that i've ever been in the middle of. it was sheer panic. it was find a space and cover yourself. and just parents, that was the worst thing watching couples and parents running with their children. the terror just, just, their fear. i felt their fear. i was scared for people as well as for myself. i just can't understand how people can -- how people can behave like this. and why there is so much hate in the world. excuse me. >> it is a good question and no one can really understand it right now, paul, and -- >> we just want to say that we, we, along with you, we're trying
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to protest this and make sense of it and we're thankful that you are safe and your partner is safe and like you, we grieve for all that are injured. take care of yourself and give yourself the time to make sense of all of this and thank you for speaking to us. we very much appreciate you sharing everything you saw on this terrible, terrible night. >> okay. >> thank you very much. >> paul delane there on the line there from nice describing the chaos and thea hysteria. >> and the fear. >> and not knowing where you're running to but just knowing there is something bad happening and you have to get away. >> and obviously we hope that paul, clearly is going through a lot of stress right now. a lot of emotional turmoil for him. we wish him all the best. we'll take a short break. happiness turning to horror in an instant for thousands celebrating bastille day.
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i saw a big, white truck going through the pedestrian designated area because the roads were blocked so that cars wouldn't go through and then, you know, more gunfire and more people were screaming and running in different directions. >> well that witness describing the horror and the pure chaos at the bastille terror attack. a truck plowing through a crowd of people that had just watched fire trucks, killed at least 80 people including several children. >> the man drove two kilometers more than a mile on the sidewalk, he zig-zaged before police killed him. they found grenades and explosives inside of the truck. >> and then found an id card for a french man. they are looking to see if it belonged to the driver. >> the country's president says
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the country will be strong and resilie resilient. >> francois hollande says this was a terror attack. >> the canadian prime minister justin treudeau sells canadians are shocked by tonight's attack in nice. our sympathy is with the victims and our solidarity is with the french police. and boris johnson says. shocked and saddened by the appalling events in nice. and the terrible loss of life. >> president obama says on behalf of the american people, i condemn in the strongest terms what appears to be a horrific terrorist attack in nice, france. on this bastille day, we are reminded of the extraordinary resilience and democratic values that have made france an inspirational to the entire world and we know that the french republic will enpicture long after this devastating and
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tragic loss of life. donald trump spoke with anderson cooper. >> would you go to congress and ask for a declaration of war? >> i would! i would! this is war! if you look at it, this is war coming from all different parts. >> it is clear, we are at war with these terrorist groups and what they represent. it is a different kind of war. and we need to be smart about how we wage it and win it. >> let's bring in cnn military analyst rick frankern joining us by skype. rick, first to you, we heard from the french president a short time ago basically saying he will extend military strikes on targets in iraq and syria. listen to this. >> translator: nothing will lead
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us to give into our will to fight against terrorism and again, we'll strengthen and reenforce our actions in syria and iraq and to continue to confront those who are attacking us on our very soil. >> so rick, what are honnalland options? do you wage a faster war than the one led by the obama administration? >> they participate like they have. the french have been a great partner on this. timing sg very interesting. just earlier before the attacks, he announced they were redeploying the french carrier to participate in increased air strikes so i don't think it had any impact on the timing here, but the french have been involved. they're going to be involved. this will strengthen the resolve so i think we'll see continued
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french action. i don't think this changes their participation in the coalition at all. >> well, bob, to you now, we know isis back in 2014 and nobody claimed this attack but many eyes on isis so as we talk about the threat and try to assess it. if francois hollande steps up the war far against isis but really the threat is coming from home grown individuals living in france, i mean, how does he reap the reward of that domestically? >> you're absolutely right. this is the enemy within. the attacks in brussels and the attacks in paris and the rest of them. this is a community in france mostly north african of origin who are not making it in france.
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there is prejudice, profiling, the french have marshall law. they'll step up attacks on raqqah and mosul will fall. we'll see a back lash in europe. you'll see a lot of people in france identifying themselves with islam rather than the fren french nation. right now they don't know what to do about it because these people have nowhere to go except france and this is really a mess for europe and there is no easy, fast way out. >> okay. well, both bob and rick, you'll stay with us. we have more from you in the coming hours. in the meantime, we'll take a short break. >> we will, indeed. a terror attack in the south of france claims 80 lives. we'll show you the panic along the beach during the bastille days celebration. you're watching cnn.
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when we look out across, we see this white, panelled truck plowing through people. even now i'm looking in front of our area and i see about ten covered bodies, unfortunately in the area in front of us. >> a witness describing the carnage in nice, france where at least 80 people are dead after plowing into a crowd of people on the beach front promenade. it is disturbing.
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[ screaming ] >> police say the driver opened fire before he rammed into the crowd. he was shot and killed inside the truck. they found firearms, grenades and explosives. france's president says there is no denying the terrorist nature of the attack. >> after paris in 2015, then in november last year, nice is in turn touched. france as a whole is under the threats of islamic terrorism. >> anderson joins us once more from paris.
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the third major terrorist attack in france. major measure pressure for the t to now act. >> he was using islamic terrorism. i'm not sure if there is any evidence to suggest so but we do know the authorities, the police on the promenade des anglais last night not intervened as quickly as they did, the scene of carnage could have been much, much worse. we have just had the interior minister here in france speaking in nice. let me provide you with a little bit of what he said. this brings us up to date on the details. 80 people have died in this brazen truck attack on people celebrating bastille day along the promenade des anglais in nice in southern france. 18 in intensive care and the interior ministry and i quote
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him, numerous people have been wounded. he says our thoughts go out once again to the families of all of the victims and clearly to those who are living in nice as well. let's just remind ourselves what we know at this point very briefly, a truck plowing into crowds celebrating bastille days. there was an id card found in the truck of a 31-year-old french inhabitant of nice and at present police are trying to link that card with the body of the driver that was pulled from the cab after that truck was shot at by authorities. that is the very latest we have at this point. >> becky, thank you. many are speculating isis or another terror group was behind the nice terror attack after they called on followers to use vehicles against people in the west. >> if you're not able to find an
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ied or a bullet, single out the disbelieving american french men or any of the allies, smash his head with a rock or slaughter him with a knife or run him over with a car or throw him down from a high place or choke him or poison him. another video now posted to social media that shows the truck moments before it plowed into the truck. some viewers may find this very disturbing. >> you can see it right here. the white truck driving down the promenade, the main street in nice. people are crowded the beach front area, celebration of bastille day. joining us now aaron cohen with and steve moore. let's start with you. they have dealt with the terrorist attacks. 48 in the last two years alone. those were minor compared to what happened in nice. is there anything that can be done, any response ahead of time to head off these kinds of things? >> the reason, just to add to
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the specific text you gave me about the fact that the israeli attacks weren't as severe as the one we saw in nice. the reason is because this is a triple d system, deter, detective and deny. that means that we have a major event. the independence day in france. the bastille, the revolution, the prerevolution day where they were freed from the prisons. it is a big day in france. those triple layering of tdeter detect, deny, that person was going to a specific person, for a specific reason. there was surveillance being conducted. in order for the terrorist to inflict the most dangerous. we would have looked at the promenade. pardon my french for not knowing the actual street. that would have been looked at
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as an actual layer and the cars would have been limited to the access to the street. that is number one. that selection phase. the deterrence would involve heavier armed security official. a lot of respect for bob baer, he called it. there is a heavy military feel to france. the question is take those assault weapon carrying police officers and put them into places where you have the massive crowds. that is where terrorists go. and the final word is deny. the training, a turkish police officer ended up firing at the terrorist that went in with an ak-47 firing openly, ended up shooting him in the center mass area. the terrorist went down. what we didn't miss though was what we trained in which is being able to treat police that they have to be fire a round into the center of the head. it is not personal. we're not trying to kill the terrorist, we're trying to keep hills head from moving. the explosion we saw moments
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afterwards wouldn't have been able to happen because he couldn't hit the button. the training is the final denial phase and that is anti-terror specific training which is conducive to the israeli triple system. >> so, steve, state of emergency measures in france right now and to aaron's point, a high military presence, high security. this individual was able to circumvent that. how were they able to do that and inflict the mass carnage. >> i'm going to have to speculate. when you put on something the promenade des anglais and set it aside for pedestrians. you can't just put saw horses at the end of it and expect it to stop vehicles. when you are -- when you're going to segregate this, you have to stand it up with officers there who can stop vehicles. whatever you have, you have to move vehicles, whatever, to block it. you can't just say don't come
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in. i think what happened is once again, they changed tactics. obviously there were probably security people throughout the crowds, the french were probably very aggressive about that, but at the same time, it appears that they left the flank unguarded. >> let's take a look, we have a map of the area where this happened, the boulevard de anglais. you can see where the truck hit the bodies. you can see the yellow box here, that is where they finally managed to stop the truck. to your point, you say deny the israeli tactics. you have a 2,000 pound vehicle barrelling down. the wind screen was riddled with bullet holes. stopping somebody is not that simple. >> my israeli simple. >> yeah. >> stop and check the truck.
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you have ak-47s in the truck. the body language of somebody who is about to commit an act of murder is just as red flagged as somebody who has just committed an act of murder. >> you say this is a security failure. >> on a collosal level. it is a failure on a basic security level for event planning. there should have been a physical barrier where armed, present, heavily armed police officers were checking vehicles. there were grenades in the car, an ak-47 in the car. somebody was going to commit an act of murder. the palms start to sweat, the eyes dilate. we have fbi quality agents working on what we call selectors for every flight going into israel and that is the level of training needed to detective behavior and had we had some of that with a proper
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physical barricade in place, they would have been stopped. >> will there be copycats now? >> they proved the concept so this will happen again. >> again, we'll come back to you guys in the next couple of hours. we appreciate you being with us. >> we'll take a quick break now and we'll discuss the terrible attack in nice, france, where with a european terrorism expert. do stay with us. you do what it takes to be healthy. but can your multivitamin do more for your immune health? now one a day has the first multivitamin with probiotics to support the 70% of your immune system that's found in your digestive tract. new one a day with probiotics. your multi with more. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,
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welcome back, everyone, we're following devastating breaking news out of nice, france, at least 80 people have been killed in a terrible terror attack during a french national holiday. we need to warn you, the videos we're about to show you are deeply disturbing. >> the driver of the truck started by shooting into crowds celebrating bastille day. the driver then plowed through a busy promenade and drove about two kilometers, more than a
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mile. we spoke with one eyewitness to this attack. >> at about that time, you started to see people running, screaming, rushing away from the water front where everything was happening and it was initially it sounded like maybe it was either, there were bangs coming from the truck and initially thought perhaps that was, you know, gunfire but i think in retrospect it was probably the sound of the truck actually hitting civilians that were out on the water way. >> police shot and killed the driver and authorities found firearms, explosives and grenades in the truck. they also found an identity card. of a 31-year-old french tunisian. they're trying to figure out if it matches the identity of the driver. >> back now with security expert aaron cohen and cnn steve moore. we want to talk about the id card found in the truck. what are the chances that is real and not fake? >> the chances are very good
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that that is real and not fake. what would be their motive for throwing it off on someone else? nobody commits a terrorist act like this and wants to throw credit to another agency. the fact that he had it on him was not an accident. >> yeah, and aaron, the timing of this attack, the timing, the choice of location says what to you. >> >> terror. the reason why is balls this is the historic independence day for the entire nation of france. this has an extremely heavy thumb print in terms of the media reach. it creates the highest level of panic and fear, i heard it in the voice of the gentleman you were talking to that was running from the attack. it is designed to create fear. whoever is scared is losing. this becomes a win for the radical aisl radic radicalized online terror fundamentalism that is growing, this recruitment.
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it is a temporary win and france is getting, unfortunately, comfortable with this level of violence and so i think that we'll see some heavy offense shortly from france. >> you had a feeling maybe this wasn't the original target. >> when i was over in pakistan and you've been there for so many years, the attacks we got, the bombs we saw, were almost always alternate targets. plan b. and when you have somebody prepare for an event or a person arriving in a country and then you can't do anything with it, you're going to expect an attack later on. last month on the 12th and the 17th, the 22nd and the 27th, there were games in the euro 2016 at the stadium which is only three miles from where this goes. that would explain to me, my biggest question is, why were there grenades and explosives in there that they didn't really seem to want to use. it seems to me that this was a
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secondary target because security might have been too strong at euro but this is where i'd be going. >> and, aaron, to that oint, this is someone that was operate i ing, we know, you can tell, what are you seeing? had. >> my intuition and i completely read this gentleman right here, he's spot on. euro 2016, there's no question that individual came for war. at that moment to hit a juicier target, terrorists go to the path of least resistance. i believe there had to have been a network. i'll tell you why. france is a no gun country. they don't have second amendment rights. they don't have them in most of europe. we were talking about this earlier. you have to get guns, you have to get grenades and you have to
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get training. you can't just fire out of a car windshield and be able to work a fully automatic rifle at .54 kap calibrated, which is a big roup. there's planning and people helping them and i think there's networks of secrecy where these guys are going. i wouldn't be surprised if this is coming out of syria and iraq. >> we will continue with our coverage here. we have more information with the latest out of prance. but in a moment, we'll take a look at the dozens of dead and wounded and at the sheer panic there in nice. and can you explain to me why you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food"? is that a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right the one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year?
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welcome back, everybody. more breaking news out of france and these newspaper front covers are a nap shot of the carnage after a terror attack leaves at least 80 people dead in nice. the death toll has risen since the daily mara published this front page a bit ago. ? the driver of a truck plowed into a crowd of people. police shot and killed the
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truckdriver. now they're trying to determine if the identity card of a 31-year-old french tunisian man found in the truck's cab matches the body of the driver. thank you for watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm isha sesay. >> and i'm john vause. more breaking news out of nice when we come back in a moment. you're watching cnn. see that? jill's gobbling up our bird's eye teriyaki broccoli. (mind-blowing sound) and look ben is going for more buffalo cauliflower. (mind-blowing sound) everybody's a veggie lover now. what do you think? (mind-blowing sound) mind blown. bird's eye flavor full. so veggie good. i'm not a customer, but i'm calling about that credit scorecard. (to dog)give it. sure! it's free for everyone. oh! well that's nice! and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! (to dog)i'm so proud of you. well thank you. get your free credit scorecard at discover.com. even if you're not a customer.
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welcome back, everybody. just going on 10:00 here in los angeles. it is 7:00 a.m. in nice. we like to welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. >> breaking news this however, people in nice, france, celebrating bastille day on the beach ran for their lives when the driver of a large white truck opened fire on them ask then plowed into the crowd. >> french officials put the death toll at 80 bodies lying in the street covered with white sheets. amateur video of the attack is graphic and
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