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>> people were out on the streets. the coup makers did not fire on the people and now it appears the situation is not -- if not entirely under control is somewhat under control. >> we heard that there was firing on the parliament. until we find out about that, we'll assume it not under control, until we hear they've been able to shoot down the rogue aircraft. you can see traffic is backed up there. moments ago we heard an explosion. some people are still out in the streets. people sitting down in the middle of the interstate.

are you concerned about what happens next as the sun continues to rise there? >> well, yes, i think we're all concerned not just about today but about the weeks ahead. this has clearly been a very damaging scar in turkish society. the people who you are describing are people who went to the airport to greet mr. erdogan, to encourage him, and now they're trying to make their way home. the skies have been reverberating with the sound of low-flying jets, sonic booms, shaking the building, which may be jet noises incurred in the distance. it's a very disconcerting atmosphere here. but, yes, we are concerned that how is the government is clearly going to, assuming it manages to regain power successfully, is clearly going to carry out a

purge of its opponents and how widely it will cast its net. >> andrew finkel, we appreciate you giving us your knowledge. he's been joining us all evening on cnn. i want to bring in cnn jim sciutto and ivan watson. they're both there as well. ivan is our senior international correspondent and jim is our chief national security correspondent. both of them have a wealth of knowledge on this particular situation and situations like this. jim, what does the u.s. government think the current situation is in turkey this morning? >> reporter: u.s. officials have been very cautious throughout. early on they were cautious to identify this as a couple. in fact they used the term uprising and then they took some time, three, four hours into it before making a more public statement when you had both the president and secretary of state john kerry issuing unequivocal

backing for the democratically elected government of turkey and in fact opposing the coup and saying people should support their democratically elected leaders. they have been watching this closely. they've been getting incomplete information just as we've been getting incomplete information and that's even while i'm told they've stayed in contact as best they can with their turkish counterparts both with the military and at a political level. probably shared by their turkish counterparts as they were trying to judge what was happening where and when. u.s. officials are not expressing that with any sort of certainty. >> jim, as we understand, president erdogan has addressed the nation twice tonight, one on social media, once on

television. talk to you about what he said. >> first, and you make a great point, because that first time he addressed the nation, it was by cell phone. it was a turkish broadcaster holding up a cell phone and the president face timing his first address to the nation, the first time he was seen since the coup started was on that tinny little screen there. later he managed to get himself to istanbul. at this time he was on vacation on the turkish coast, he showed himself physically, not in the turkish capital but in its largest city there with very strong words. you heard him say the coup was over and that those who turn their guns on the state of turkey will be punished very harshly. this is a man trying to express and show control at this point and keep in mind, don, leading up to this he has as much as the coup is an assault on the

turkish democracy, he's closed down media, going after the judiciary and removing official he's saw that were not faithful to him. that narrative continues. assuming this coup is over and his side has been victorious, people are going to be embracing themselves perhaps for an even more aggressive leadership from erdogan. >> ivan watson, rebels entered cnn sister network and we could see the desks were empty. >> this was an incredible scene where the editor in chief says that these coup soldiers landed with a helicopter and then basically forced journalists from our sister network off the air at gun point.

and then we saw these very surreal images of the studio for the better part of an hour afterwards with just an empty studio, until eventually the cnn turk broadcasters came back in again and started which by all accounts has been under immense pressure from the government, who the anchorwoman of the state trt television network was forced to read, she says, a coup statement on the air at the beginning of this turbulent chain of events and then several hours later she explained that she'd been forced at gun point by soldiers to do this and then rescinded those claims.

so the media has played a really remarkable role in this. another point to bring out, there's been a lot of criticism of. >> in this time of deadly violence, you've seen leaders of opposite parties in the parliament who are very critical coming out and defending the elected government between a and -- >> what does this mean for the region and specifically for the fight against terror?

>> reporter: i think it's another very frightening factor. before it happened, turkey, which is at this pivotal location, it's next to iraq, syria, europe. there are oil and energy pipelines going through it. it's a major transit route for everything from refugees and migrants. turkey was fighting both isis, which had bombed istanbul alone at least three times this year. most recently under triple suicide bombing at istanbul's airport and it's fighting pkk fighters. and now you have a major and deadly power struggle taking place between elements of the military and the elected government. the police forced to try to keep some sense of law and order

without knowing who to really follow at this point in the midst of this. we saw scenes of absolute chaos at istanbul's international airport, which was just bombed a little less than three weeks ago. the military briefly appeared to try to take control of it and then crowds of erdogan's supporters swept in past the metal detectors and marched around an airport that had just been bombed a little less than three weeks ago. imagine what is going on elsewhere in the country right now. >> one wonders what's going to happen next. the people who had knowledge of the erdogan government and turke turkey. >> chip: i think it's fair to s

say. >> i believed erdogan was meant to go to muhammad ali's memorial service and flew back to turkey at the time concerned with internal rumblings. no one was expecting a full on or partial military coup tonight. that partly explains so it was about three, four hours into the coup before you had the president and john kerry in lock stop declaring their support for the democrat lick elected government of turkey. you're going to have -- however long it takes, you'll have time to start it over. maybe the u.s. believes who was behind this couple.

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breaking news. these live pictures are coming to us from periscope. unclear, as it says on your screen, who is in control right now, though the erdogan government is saying they are.

we see inside the trt state-run media, it was taken off the air for a while. and rebel troops in turkey took control of trk joining me now is the news director. thank you, carlos. how are you doing? >> doing pretty good. >> was it a violent takeover? >> that's an interesting question. when people walk in with guns, it's not a peaceful takeover. however, we did manage to get everybody out of building, everybody seems okay. they pulled our signal down, though they remain down. our counterpart has managed to get their station back up but i haven't been able to. it was very hard to get in touch with people after the incident

took place, their phones were confiscated. >> so who is -- >> we're off the air. >> and no one is in the broadcast scenter now. you're off the air? >> that is correct. i belong to the english language international broadcaster and we remain off the air. there is nobody in that building. >> so in the middle of this attempted coup, the forces went in, they wanted to go into that particular broadcaster, they wanted to get you off the air because? >> well, we're the state broadcaster, public broadcaster. i should note they also took my turkish counterparts off the air. since we're a public broadcaster, there's a perception that they speak on behalf of the government, et cetera. i can't speak for my turkish colleagues. they've been around for 50

years. i can only tell you on behalf of the english broadcaster, we just play it straight. we get criticism from all sides just for doing that. clearly whoever controls the message can control the narrative. >> are you able to hear from your journalists there? >> i've spoken to several of my journalists. they're laying low right now. >> are they relaying anything to you that the sources are saying about the coup? do you have any information thus far? >> well, it appears to be a -- it's not an entire military coup. i believe i was listening to one of your guests earlier who made a point of that. if it would have been the entire military, i believe they could have toppled the government. it's quite a powerful military

in turkey and well established and a cornerstone of the country really. it seems to have been a small group that were behind this coup, which may speak to why they were not successful so far and why it appears that things have abated a bit. it's almost as if the military is at war with itself, not just with the government. i don't think you've seen any senior officials coming out against the government. >> how well do you know istanbul? >> i know it fairly well. >> are you able to see air? this is live coming from from

periscope. it's an approach or an exit to a bridge there. what do you know about this? >> well, it's kind of tough to take out. i'm looking and it's moving around just a little bit, don, i'm afraid. it's tough to make out to be honest with you. look, those bridges were at one stage they were completely blocked off by tanks. >> there it is right there. >> it seems as if tanks have been replaced by people in cars. there were reports there was some soldiers remaining there but not with heavy weaponry, mostly soldiers with rifles. it's really hard to make out what's happening right now. i do know that it got quieter in istanbul overnight and the real trouble was taking place in ankara. again, it's still developing. i'm not entirely sure if it's quieted down in the last few hours. >> stand by. we're talking to carlos van meek, director of news, our state-run broadcasting there. i do have to tell you, i have

some sad and immediate news to report here. cnn has confirmed that 42 people are dead in the ankara attacks, according to the prosecutor's office, 42 people have been killed in attacks across the turkish capital of ankara. citing the attorney general's in ankara. ntv reports most of the victims were police officers killed in an exchange of gun fire with a helicopter near the parliament complex in the capital. of course, in our last hour. we had on memberet shim sek who confirmed rogue aircraft were over ankara and firing at the building and they had deployed aircraft to take that rogue aircraft down. again, 42 people dead in ankara in attacks there.

again, i'm here with carlos van meek, news director. >> it seems as if the fighting in ankara was much more fierce and the folks were a bit more determined in their approach. clearly an kara. there was a play on the -- clearly there were 42 people who died as a result and we may see that number rise. i was hearing those reports as well so it did play out that way. >> excuse me, carlos. director of news for trt world, state-run television in turkey. thank you very much. we appreciate that. his studios were shut down, still shut down now and they are no longer broadcasting. breaking news is that 42 people are dead. as you see that at the bottom of your screen. they have been killed in the

attacks across the turkish capital of ankara and it was beefed believed it was from rogue aircraft fire. most of those dead according to the -- most killed were police officers near the parliament complex in the capital. >> i want to bring on a guess who lives in istanbul. talk to us about your experience. i understand you're from germany and you've lived in istanbul from five to six years, not far from the square? >> exactly. yes, exactly. yeah, well, what can i tell you? it was a very interesting night in terms of not knowing what was going on, just hearing gunshot,

hospitals and but i don't have a television. i couldn't reach the internet because the internet was blocked shortly and then we have a chain of friends that we contact each other in case of emergencies and through this chain basically helping each other realizing what was going on. >> i could hear gunshot going on in the streets. a restless night. when it started you saw military vehicles driving down the street, you heard gunshot, jets, bombings, you had no idea what was going on, it was a terrifying nightmare.

you said if you had not been at home, you probably would not be able to get home. >> yes, exactly. i don't know if the jets were bombing or what the explosions were. i couldn't see that from home. but we shortly were informed that we shouldn't stay at home and not leave the house, that martial law is applicable. so we stayed at home and didn't go out not knowing what was going on. >> so do you hear guns at home or has it calmed down? >> it has closed down for about half an hour. i saw in about 20 minutes ago a military week of driving but it seems very calm now compared to just an hour ago. >> did you hear the call for,

you know, from president erdogan to go to the streets? >> yes, i received a message from the government of erdogan. and we suddenly heard a call for prayer. >> i understand you didn't go because you were afraid. 42 people have been killed in

attacks across the turkish capital of ankara, citing the attorney general's office in ankara. i want to bring in bob baer, joshua walker, a former secretary of state adviser to hillary clinton when she was secretary of state and major general spider marks. major general marks, when you hear about these 42 people, we heard from turkey's deputy prime minister that rogue aircraft were over ankara and firing on the parliament and they were going to send out their own aircraft to try to take this aircraft down. when you hear about these 42 people dead, talk to us about that. >> well, the first thing that comes to mind is the first reports are generally always

wrong and then the second thing is within all of that is an immense amount of confusion. first of all, you have aircraft. a rogue aircraft is now firing rather indiscriminately into a crowd. it means the wounds will be severe, those that are killed, the numbers will probably increase. as a result of an air engagement is you're going to have a fire ball and some real damage on the ground as a result of that. so there will be intended targets that will be killed and there will be collateral damage. it really just gets to the raw nature of what we're seeing unfolding and the fact that all of us who have experiences in military operations and intelligence operations, nothing is really going to unfold in a way that you think might be

predictable. there are permeations that you simply cannot predict. this is one of them. >> these are live pictures of the president addressing a large crowd in istanbul. [ crowd boos ] [ speaking foreign language ] >> we wanted to get you to listen to that. obviously it's not in english. but to get a sense of what was going on. when you look at the crowd and the demeanor of the crowd, joshua, he appears to have tremendous support. >> exactly right. we've already talked about the fact that more than half of turkey supports this man. if you look out in that crowd, it's all men, number one.

you look at the minister in the cabinet, officials around him, his sornl to the left. he is talking and i can only hear barely points about last night and the rhetoric coming out is not someone who is being conciliatory. he's basically seeing this is treason and the booing is probably directed at the coup attempt. >> we're talking to our panel of experts as turkey's president addresses from this angle a large crowd. i think we have some translation. >> translator: so far as you continue your position in this way, we'll succeed.

i would like to make a certain express particularly. at the highest level of our army from the heads of the armies to lower ranking officers and to ordinary private soldiers in turkey armed forces are not governing the state and they cannot. this should be known by all. this nation brought a certain government using their own will.

by election. the government is in control. 50% of the people elected a president and that president is on duty. my brothers, i want you to know this. those who brought these tanks out, what happened to these tanks? my people took these tanks back, haven't they? so far as we believe in that -- so far as we are alive, we will be prepared to die to tackle these people.

but we will stand firm. we are not going to compromise. now i am addressing those in pennsylvania. >> translator: the betrayal you have shown to this community and nation, that's enough. if you have the courage, come back to your country. if you can. you can. you will not have the means to turn this country into a mess from where you are.

>> translator: the crowd is chanting "we want, we want" -- it's not very clear. at every step we will be -- pay attention. they cannot stand with turkey getting bigger, turkey developing, but whether they like it or not, we will complete what we are targeting. we will achieve to our target. the god is great. the god is great. >> turkish president erdogan addressing supporters in a crowd

in istanbul. he has spoken to the media twice and now he is addressing the public live and outdoors. again, i'm hear with my fapanel bob baer, he said the government is not leaving the state, this should be known by all. he said the people elected this government. those who brought the tanks out, my people took the tanks back. we will be prepared to die to tackle these people. we will stand firm, we will not compromise. the betrayal shown is enough. if you have the courage to come back to your country, come back. and then there was chanting as well. joshua walker pointed this out. lieutenant colonel rick francona, what's your response to this? >> it was interesting to watch him work that crowd because this

is what prevented this cue from succeeding. when he called the people to the street, i think that effectively ended the coup. when you saw people walking up to armored vehicles, tanks, literally putting themselves in the path of thieves vehicles, kwai. >> let's listen in real quick. >> it was reminiscent of egypt. >> translator: don't forget. the crowd is chanting reject

erdogan. >> what do we say? what do we say? what do we say? >> translator: one nation, one flag, one motherland. one [ inaudible ]. >> and there you have the president. they are chanting his name as you heard from the translator. there they are chanting again. look at the size of this crowd. it is really a crowd of thousands. it looks like tens of thousands. and the president addressing the crowd saying what do we want in we want one nation, one flag,

one motherland. general francona, you were saying? >> i think you saw it right there. he's got the popular support now and i think he's in a much better position politically now than before. he emerges from this much stronger and now he can enact those reforms. i want to talk a little bit -- you were talking about the military officer corps and that they don't run the country, the people run the country, the government runs the country. over the last four, five years erdogan has been very successful in weeding out any opposition in that senior officer rank. when you look at who was running that coup, it was not the senior officer level and it was at the brigadier general. coups have to be done very quickly, very efficiently and they didn't do anything of that. >> it's interesting, bob, because we have looked -- i guess just over the last 12 hours we have seen, you know, a coup attempt and it looked like

it had been successful, if you monitor the pictures happening all day and here we are late into the evening unsuccessfully. this all played out in a swift amount of time here. >> well, don, let's wait and see. if i was erdogan, i would have gone back to make the speech to the people. something you said before about washington being confused. i know the reason for that. i've dealt with the turkish military and they are shut out of the process. they don't come to military, cia and say, look, we're unhappy. it doesn't come as a surprise to me -- >> so how does the u.s. move with turkey moving forward?

>> well, the problem is, erdogan, if i were him in a situation in a divided country, if i got back in power, i would crush any possible dissent in the military, which will cause problems in the future. >> i'm sorry to cut you off, bob. this is happening live. you see members of the military with their hands up here. i'm not sure exactly what is playing out, joshua. you may know. maybe spider marks, maybe a number of our panelists know. again, you see them walking in front of tanks here holding their hands up. i don't know if it's a surrender or a symbol? >> i think this is an initial act of reconciliation. they're acknowledging that they want to try to work themselves back in in an effective and an efficient way and get beyond

this. clearly the coup is not over. the coup is not over until it's completely over. erdogan is not going to allow this chaotic opportunity to pass him by. he'll take advantage of this crisis and really double down. >> this is the bosphorus bridge. >> significant for a number of reasons. >> why is that? >> this is passage into europe. this is why turkey is such an incredible ally to us. a stable turkey is what we need on our southern and eastern border that is surrounded by a troubled and chaotic syria, iraq, iran, it borders armenia and georgia, the black sea, crimea now belongs to russia. this is really a tush rent, turbulent area, it always has been. that's why we have this really -- a very strong and yet at the same time a very troubled

relationship with turkey. when i was a senior intel and we were going to wa ar in iraq, we trieds did prattly to ha-- trie desperately to get a route in from the north. >> the u.s. military, what about their stability there, their safety? >> good to go. short answer. >> they're good to go. it's all fine. >> joshua, quickly here, when you look at the pictures, what's going on here with the troops with their hands up? >> what do you know about this? >> that bridge is important symbolically. we saw pictures where a lot of the soldiers coming in were shaking. the tied seems to be turning against him seeing the big crowd looking at the rhetoric for

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a terror attack in nice, france killed 84 people. max foster is in nice tonight. max, there is chaos in turkey but you are standing in the spot where just 24 hours ago a disaster was unfolding. what's the latest? >> reporter: it's interesting, we're not getting many updates from the investigation because they seem to have hit a bit of a brick wall. they investigated this guy, he was going through a divorce, high had three young children. he wasn't particularly religious, we understand, and yet the mayor of nice was telling me just yesterday in comments that reflected what the prime minister's been saying is someone doesn't just wake up and mow through dozens of people. he must have been radicalized,

been inspired, must have surely had some network to carry this out. but they don't have any links to terrorist groups. this incident happened, it's frightened the nation, frightened europe. the streets are full of military with large guns and this frightening atmosphere we have here. inevitably people are looking at his background. he was someone who was born outi'd the country and he was a muslim. so these sorts of features play into a wider political debate here. >> max, the driver's wife has been detained. is there any new information about his motivation? >> reporter: not really. i mean, that's what they're digging away at. there's certainly lots of stories about how he was quite an angry person and he has lashed out on occasions and he was going through a divorce and

can't get any further than that. but normally we get some sort of they're saying they don't believe the idea of a lone wolf anymore. that is what they're trying to establish. >> any leads on what authorities are chasing right now? max? >> they're literally just trying to find the links that they may have had to have to any other groups. apart from that, they're trying to prepare for any similar instance that might occur. it is frightening where someone can carry out hematitesuch a ho attack and not have any clear motivation but that seems to be the situation at this point. meanwhile, they're trying to clear out this area. people are in a horrible state of insecurity not knowing what to do is kind of all you have. a couple of streets down that way, life appears to be carrying on as normal. people are out at the bistros.

people are coming from all over france to hang out here but at the same time here it is this isolated, frightening place. and to think that all of this happened at a time where, you know, bastille days it is all about peace, it is about french identity and for that to have happened here, people have struggling with. >> the driver plowed through a mile long stretch of where you are now and it is a different scene today or tonight than it was last night. thanks so much for that. max foster in nice, france. i want to bring in kayla ripan. we know you've been through a lot. you're both from florida. what were you doing in france? >> actually, we started our trip last week in paris where we actually got engaged, and then just a few days ago, i guess at this point, we moved to nice

just to, you know, enjoy the beach and enjoy a little vacation. we actually thought when we were in france the euro cup was going on and we were concerned about the security there and when we got to nice, i think, we kind of, you know, took a breath. we were relieved to be there thinking, you know, it was a lot safer. >> and then that happened. congratulations, by the way, on your engagement. alex, we have all seen these images on tv. what was it like to be on the promenade last night. what did you -- what did you guys see? >> it was the craziest experience i've ever had in my life. we were there watching the fireworks that went off and it was packed with people. the street, by the beach, the caves, everything was slammed. and right when the fireworks ended, we walked back to the cafe area to get some dinner and we had just crossed the street

and we walked in where the cafes were and just heard bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. we didn't know if it was fireworks or if someone was shooting a gun but people started running and all of a sudden it was just a mass of people just flying. it was like, it reminded me when you watch on tv the running of the bulls except you knew where the bulls are there. when we're running, you don't know if you're running into something else. you don't know what you're running away from. it was a surreal feeling. >> people are tripping over each other. >> and falling, and just yelling and we tried to run off the main street and kind of down some alleyways which still were packed with people. we ended up running into a restaurant and people were hiding and screaming, holding their children. i mean it was surreal and then you feel like, what am i doing in here? we're just a sitting duck so we took off down the street and ended up in a hotel, some random hotel that the police ended up walling off.

>> did you see the -- >> i couldn't tell if it was two -- >> did you see the sfluk. >> we did not see the truck. >> no, we had no idea. i mean, we were sort of asking people as we were running you know, what is going on? we were totally panicked. everyone was panicked. we heard people were saying gunshots and then terrorist and once we got into the restaurant we heard that a truck had plowed through the people. at that point we were maybe a minute away from where the truck -- we were making our way away from the truck when it came so we didn't actually see it. >> you are from florida, right? where? >> light house point in broward county, florida. >> you were aware of the situation that happened in orlando with the terrorist attack there. the attack on the nightclub and now this. it appears to be no matter where you go, you're vulnerable. >> yeah.

there is nothing, no place is sacred anymore. at home, here, anywhere, which is why i mean, you can live in your fears or not. it is the kind of thing you have to be aware of it and we talked about it before we came over here. we said we have to be aware, you know, there have been instances over here. have an exit strategy when we're in somewhere. in this case, the exit strategy was to run because we were already outside. you're turning these corners when you're running and you don't know if you'll be met with a bomb, someone with a machine gun, it is like, it was really, really just a completely surreal experience. >> i think just the contrast, i'm sorry, go on. >> go ahead. >> you know, in the orlando situation and in this situation, obviously i wasn't in orlando first hand but you know, people just enjoying themselves in a place they feel comfortable and in this situation, you know, parents with their kids, you know, kids on their parents

shoulders, just enjoying the fireworks it was very celebratory and a nice experience. it is a really scary thing. >> kay la and alex, again, we're glad that you're okay. congratulations on your engagement. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. our coverage of the coup in turkey and the terror attack in nice, france, continues in just a moment with max foster in nice and becky anderson in terrace. i'm don lemon, thank you so much for watching, i'll see you right back here on sunday night where i'll be live from cleveland for the republican national convention. good night. mary buys a little lamb. one of millions of orders on this company's servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary's data could be under attack. with the help of at&t, and security that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be

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we're following two major stories right now. an attempted coup in turkey that may or may not be resolving in the government's favor. turkish military forces take to the streets demanding the government step down but the people fight back. >> underneath, we're learning more about the man behind yet another deadly attack in france where a truck plowed relentlessly through a crowd celebrating bastille day. behind me, killing 84 people. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm max er