on. >> a president who will unleash the greatness in our nation. that president can only be my father, donald trump. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." chris and i are live here in cleveland at the republican national convention. all sorts of excitement and news being made here. donald trump is officially now the republican nominee for president. gop crowning trump 13 months after he began his improbable white house run, or at least that's what people thought 13 months ago. last night it was trump's children making the case to voters about their dad. >> now, one of the interesting aspects was that the theme of the night was making america work again. most of the primetime speeches didn't focus on that. it was really about just hammering hillary clinton. thousands repeatedly chanting

"lock her up" from the convention floor last night. we have every angle of what happened covered. let's begin this hour with cnn's phil mattingly inside the convention center. phil? >> reporter: good morning, chris. turning the page. that's how one trump adviser in the wake of a turbulent first 24 hours of the convention described what tuesday night was all about and helping the trump campaign do just that, donald trump's children, the unquestioned stars of the night. >> it is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight. congratulations, dad. we love you. >> reporter: donald trump formally clinching the republican nomination. >> i'm so proud to be your nominee for president of the united states. >> reporter: trump's children stealing the spotlight with emotional speeches about their father. >> donald trump has never done anything halfway, least of all as a parent. >> reporter: his 22-year-old

daughter tiffany getting personal. >> i still keep all my report cards, some dating back to kindergarten because i like to look back and see the sweet notes he wrote on each and every one of them. contrary to what you might expect from someone who places emphasis on results. >> reporter: eldest son donald trump jr. calling his father his mentor and best friend, casting him as the blue-collar billionaire. >> i was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time i could walk. he didn't hide out behind some desk in an executive suite. he spent his career with regular americans. he hung out with the guys on construction sites, pouring concrete and hanging sheet rock. >> reporter: trump's children from different marriages delivering powerful testimonials of their dad. >> for my father, impossible is just the starting point. that's how he approaches business projects. that's how he approaches life. >> reporter: 24 hours earlier,

trump's wife melania's well-received speech overshadowed by charges of plagiari plagiarism. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> that your word is your bond, that you do what you say you're going to do. >> that your word is your bond. >> reporter: the campaign repeatedly denied wrongdoing. first on "new day" -- >> to think she would be using michelle obama's words is crazy. this is once again an example of when a woman threatens hillary clinton how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. >> reporter: then hours later in a press conference. >> the american people did focus on what her message was. you all are trying to destroy that message. >> reporter: the campaign dismissing calls to fire or discipline someone over the speech controversy. >> whoever was the staff person who wrote this speech should be held accountable and should be fired it. i know accountability in the trump campaign. >> we think melania trump's

speech was a great speech. >> reporter: the trump campaign, chris, not giving an inch, even in the face of republicans here in cleveland and really across the country who are extremely frustrated and watching what happened on monday night in d disbelief. but this is a deliberate strategy from the trump campaign. we've seen it deployed multiple times. it's not going to change any time soon. they're acknowledging nothing and certainly not apologizing for anything. chris? >> and as you know being on the floor, phil, that's all people were talking about. it wasn't about melania's giving the speech. everybody thought she did a good job. it was how this aspect was handled by the campaign. now, hillary clinton had a tough time in the convention last night. she was seemingly on trial throughout the night, almost literally when chris christie was speaking. donald trump's coronation seems to be as much a clinton prosecution. the governor of new jersey basically conducting a mock trial that certainly fired up the crowd. cnn senior political reporter

manu raju joins us now with more. you heard it and its great effect. >> that's right, chris. actually, chris christie passed up to be donald trump's running mate, really leading that prosecution against hillary clinton. this convention has really become an anti-clinton convention just as much, if not more, than being a pro-donald trump convention. what we heard was that anti-clinton message really galvanizing convention goers. a second night of stinging attacks against hillary clinton, becoming the rallying cry of the republican national convention. >> hillary clinton lying to the american people about her selfish, awful judgment in making our secrets vulnerable. what's your verdict? guilty or not guilty? >> for 15 minutes, new jersey governor chris christie prosecuting clinton in a mock trial before a national

audience. >> in libya and nigeria, guilty. in china and syria -- >> guilty! >> in iran and russia and cuba -- >> guilty! >> and here at home for risking america's secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up -- >> guilty! >> christie's prosecutorial takedown drawing sharp criticism from both sides of the aisle. the clinton campaign tweeting soon after, if you think chris christie can lecture anyone on ethics, we have a bridge to sell you. arizona republican senator jeff flake also tweeting, clinton now belongs in prison? come on, we can make the case that she shouldn't be elected without jumping the shark. trump's other former rival, dr. ben carson, going as far as to link clinton to lucifer. >> one of her heroes, her mentors was saul elinsky.

he wrote a book called "rules for radicals." on the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. >> speaker after speaker linking clinton's e-mail and benghazi controversies to a lack of trust. >> she lied about her e-mails. she lied about her server. she lied about benghazi. she even lied about sniper fire. why in the world would democrats put forward such a candidate? >> a hillary clinton presidency will endanger our national security. >> deception and dishonesty are all second nature to hillary. >> no way, hillary. no way on earth. >> and house speaker paul ryan scarcely mentioning trump,

focussing his attention on the risk of electing clinton. >> watch the democratic party convention next week. that four-day infomercial of politically correct moralizing. you can get through four days of it with a little help from the mute button, but four more years of it? not a chance. >> now, expect more of that anti-clinton messaging tonight when mike pence, donald trump's running mate, will address the convention as well as newt gingrich, another man who was passed over to be donald trump's running mate. interestingly, we'll also see ted cruz, donald trump's chief rival, address the crowd. we're not expecting an endorsement, chris and alisyn, but we are expecting more attacks on hillary clinton. >> okay, manu. thank you very much for that. did i already lose my bet? >> just saying. >> that we made at 5:00 a.m. >> we made a wager in the 5:00 a.m. "new day" is at 5:00 a.m. all week here in cleveland and will be as well in philadelphia.

alisyn will be doing the first hour by herself. >> that wasn't our bet. >> that ted cruz will say i endorse donald trump tonight. i say i don't think he will. camerota is taking the other side. >> but i was very tired at 5:00 a.m. i don't think i was thinking clearly. anyway, we'll circle backing to that. we have a lot to talk about. we want to bring in the former governor of michigan and senior adviser to correct the record. cnn political commentator corey lewandowski, former trump campaign manager, who is still receiving severance from the trump campaign, and chair of the new hampshire delegation at the republican convention. welcome to both of you. governor, how much attention is the hillary clinton campaign or hillary clinton herself paying to what's being said here? >> they're paying attention for sure. correct the record was putting out all sorts of rebuttals all night long. a lot of it was around the

issues of -- you know, this is just a hint. if you are helping to put a convention together and you are writing people's speeches or checking them, you should check to see whether fact checkers have already determined that thing you are saying is a total lie. the number of lies, as determined by objective fact checkers last night, was astonishing. >> meaning the stuff chris christie was saying? give us an example. >> here's an example. chris christie talks about boko haram, blaming hillary clinton essentially for it the rise of boko haram. she put the leaders of boko haram on the terrorist watch list. he says she caused the response to be a hashtag twitter campaign. the attack by bow kko haram occurred after she left office. there's simple things like that. the stuff about her wanting to abolish the second amendment, take your guns away. fact checkers repeatedly saying that is a lie.

they continue to allow that stuff to happen. and not just that. the other hint is if you have a theme for the night, a theme, like make america work again, have people talk about the theme. >> here's the thing. when it comes to court, you only know what you show. when it comes to politics, it is real if you make people feel. in that room last night, people feel that hillary clinton represents everything that's wrong with government. is that the aim, to go heavy on her and that will, as a by-product, make trump the choice of this party? >> well, look, donald trump is the choice of the party. last night he secured the nomination after 13 months of running. it's a movement. what you know last night is if you were to poll that room, there's not one person in that room, not one delegate who's voting for hillary clinton come november. the party is clearly unified here. donald trump is the republican nominee. he's the best candidate. he's a candidate who's going to

fundamentally change washington. the difference is the american people want to change. the american people are fed up. 30 years of republicans and democrats failing to create jobs and to get things done in washington have helped lead to the rise of donald trump and this brand of take back america, put america first, remember that we're the greatest country in the world, and that is what is driving this narrative, and those people last night in that convention hall are completely unified in making sure that hillary clinton is not the president of the united states. >> but the rest of the republican party is not. >> that's true. i don't think there's one elected office holder who's voting for hillary clinton. not one. >> well, last night, it is true that it was a fantastic case of serious clinton derangement syndrome. there's no doubt that people were all about hating hillary clinton. 115 speeches against hillary clinton, 6 speeches about donald trump. >> what about that, corey?

last night was the anti-hillary convention rather than the jobs plan. >> so we're going to have a pro-trump convention next week? next week is going to be any different? >> we're not saying pro. >> here's the difference. what you have is you're talking to the republican base right now, and you're talking to the american audience. what you saw last night was the case laid out by donald trump jr. and by tiffany about the type of person their father is that most of the american people don't understand because of the relationship they had. that's a very positive message. they're great surrogates. chris christie laid out a great message of why hillary clinton is not right for our country moving forward based on her past performance. not anything she may do in the future, but her past performance. that's very indicative of future performance. i think what you saw last night was a message of here's the father that i know, here's the person that i know, here's the relationship that i've built that many americans don't know, and chris christie laid out that message of, here is her job performance in the past and why she should not be elevated moving forward.

>> but why not use the opportunity last night to put forward some specifics about an economic plan? there was not one mention of manufacturing last night. there was not one mention of training. >> i don't think the clinton campaign wants to talk about tpp and the number of times she's changed her position on this. >> i'm asking about last night, trump's positions. there was nothing about his policy. >> so let's wait until thursday night when donald trump gets up and makes a speech. my guess is hik willary clintonl not be speaking monday night at her convention and tuesday night. >> you guys don't work on a ton of policy ads. >> go to the website. >> i'm saying the commercials you put out and what clinton says on the stump and when she does interviews, trump is dangerous, trump can't be president. negative works well. that's why you do it. >> she has a huge number of very specific policies on how to create jobs. you just had the head of the hispanic chamber of commerce on because she has put out very specific policies.

>> he couldn't give me one thing she's done in the past that justifies the endorsement. he said she listened to us, she was born in a small business, and then all the other things he said was, i don't like what trump says about hispanics. he says it wasn't based on that, but that's all he talked about. >> the bottom line is hillary clinton has never created a job in the private sector. she's never created one job in the private sector. >> oak >> okay, all right -- >> you can't say that about donald trump. he's created tens of thousands of jobs. >> and what we know about donald trump's plans as they are, it would cost $3.5 million. it would put us into recession. her specifics about small business, about creating access to capital, about providing incentives for small businesses to come into urban areas, her specifics about creating clean energy jobs, very specific plans. for donald trump, there doesn't appear to be anything there. >> the difference is you're

being bought and paid by wall street. >> oh, that is -- >> i just want to touch on one thing that happened yesterday about melania, possibly her speech seem to be plagiarized from michelle obama's. you said on our air that whoever was responsible should be fired for that. donald trump responded to your comments. so let me play these for you and our viewers. >> there's a reason paul is in the position he is today and corey's not. it's not because paul is amateur hour. it has nothing to do with that. listen, i understand, he's not here anymore. you want to try to maintain relevance. you want to be on tv. you want to do these things. that's not a service to the campaign. i think it's nonsense. i've heard other people ask, oh, is the family on the outs with paul? total nonsense. >> okay, sorry. that was donald trump jr. so do you still believe that paul manafort should be

responsible? >> i want to be very clear. if the staff makes a mistake, and it's unfortunate that mistake was made, whether it was a writer or whoever put this speech together, that person should be held accountable. i think melania gave an amazing speech two nights ago. she delivered it. she looked stunning. she's so smart and articulate. the fact that unfortunately there was some type of small controversy around it is disappointing to me because that was her first opportunity to be introduced to the american public. i think they fell in love with her and she's going to make an amazing first lady. all i said was, if a staffer made that mistake and should have caught that, they should have been held accountable. >> got it. paul, governor, thank you. i mean, corey. >> you can call me paul. >> too early. coming up in our next hour, we'll talk with dr. ben carson about his speech last night. he'll be here. let's take a little break. we need some blood sugar. you just heard it.

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family, very potent in politics and the trump family affair continues here in cleveland. you have donald trump's son eric taking the podium last night. trump's oldest son and youngest daughter took center stage. question is, how did they help in terms of softening the image of their father? let's discuss. we have cnn senior political analyst and senior editor for "the atlantic," professor ron brownstein. cnn political commentator, errol louis. and cnn political analyst and host of "the david gregory show" podcast, david gregory. professor, you're new to the panel today. what do you think? family matters, the kids count in politics. he's uniquely blessed with children, donald trump. how much did they help him last night? >> well, the character witness

aspect is important. but i thought donald trump jr.'s speech was more than that. it, in effect, was the closest thing to a keynote speech we have gotten and are likely to get at this convention. i thought it was the most interesting speech of the convention so far with its very conscious class signaling, talking about how he learned more from people at the bottom of the pyramid than people at the top, more about street smarts than book smarts. this is for a candidate whose bases is blue-collar white america, who on the other hand is struggling with white-collar white america. i would say it's also informative that it was his son who had to, in effect, deliver the keynote speech and the fact there was no other prominent republican they could put in that role is revealing as well. mitch mcconnell and paul ryan each spoke last night without endorsing any specific element, signature element of donald trump's program that he ran on. >> as we were walking the convention hall the other day, we were talking to republicans who were making the point that

the republican leadership in congress wants to make very clear they have a policy agenda for america that is their agenda in congress that is separate from what a president trump might actually do. they want to hold on to those reins of power and hold on to that responsibility. i think the point about donald trump's son, donald trump jr., giving this kind of keynote address, it is -- you know, what did he call him, the blue-collar billionaire? so much of this convention so far has been about tearing down hillary clinton, a way to achieve party unity, but he has got to, meaning donald trump, he has got to build himself up in the minds of voters who have a lot of questions about his competency, his temperament, the level of risk he represents in high office. again, i thought donald trump jr. did a lot to answer some of that. >> errol, your impressions? >> he managed to do that, but without talking about something like trade. how much have we heard about trade from donald trump? from the moment he came down the escalator and announced a year ago, it was all about the wall and mexico and we're getting

beat, treated like children or dogs or whatever the metaphor he used is by china, mexico, this country, that country. nobody last night got up, not even his son, got up and really sort of explained what's going to happen. normally when you're arguing for a policy, you say, well, it was done in the '50s or done in the '60s or done in this place or that place and we know that it will work. nobody seems to understand where trump's coming from on this key cluster of issues. >> it's an incredible blank slate. there's all these things wrong. whether it's foreign affairs or trade, we're not sure what's going to happen. >> but last night was jobs night. we got through the evening without any extended conversation about what he was going to do. >> isn't there an instruction in the obvious? why didn't he make the case, he in the collective sense. why didn't those supporting him at the convention didn't have to make the case? their case is she won't. she won't -- dot, dot, dot.

>> the trajectory we're on is there will be ten times as many private sector jobs created in the eight years of obama as in the eight years of george w. bush. >> nobody believes it. >> but that's literally true. so far in the convention what they have tried to do is kind of bolster him personally, which makes sense because he's facing historically high unfavorables. what they have not done is give any kind of sense of his agenda. in fact, when you have mcconnell and ryan speak without embracing any of the signature plans, not a single speaker has yet spoken, as far as i know, from the podium and said donald trump is promising to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. even jeff sessions didn't bring that up. there's a lot in his agenda they seem to not feel they could put under the spotlight, and it'll be interesting to see in these last 48 hours whether we get more of the policies he ran on. >> let's talk about what's going

to happen tonight. we have the roster of speakers. maybe we can pull that up for everybody. in particular, we know mike pence, vice presidential choice, will be speaking. what does he have to do? >> pence has to somehow send a message to conservatives that this guy is okay, that donald trump is okay. more southeru subtly, he has to say to country that doesn't know him a at a national level that he's ready to be the president in a heartbeat. and he's got to be someone who can stand up and say, this is an agenda worth voting for, not just against somebody else, but that trump is worth voting for. what we've seen so far from pence is just such a big divide between what he actually believes and stands for, whether it's on trade or supporting the iraq war, and where donald trump is. >> but how much can he run away from the obvious currency here? obviously ron is right when he say what jobs have been created, but people don't believe it. that's the currency here. she did knowingly send e-mails that were classified to people

who were uncleared. that's what they believe in there. the economy stinks. everybody hates us. the country is about to be attacked. that's the mood in this country beyond the convention hall. does he have to echo that? >> if that's the mood he's going to try and strike, he has to get it right. some of what we've seen over the last couple days has been very loud, very angry. they've actually staged this in such a way that pence is going to be the final speaker. he is the culmination of the entire night. there's going to be a lot of what you just describe ed leadi up to him. he's going to have to make a decision. does he try to be the angriest guy in an already angry room, or does he try and achieve something a little higher, something a little broader, something that's going to sort of carry out. >> next week we're going to be in pennsylvania. there's a lot of white-collar republicans who are now kind of -- >> real quick, i think it's a very clear yardstick for this convention. it is that poll number. 60% say they do not think he's

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it is day three of the republican national convention. tonight's theme, make america first again. so what does that mean? well, we'll probably see more hillary clinton bashing, but will there be any change in tone? let's discuss with former pennsylvania senator and republican presidential candidate rick santorum. senator, good to have you with us. >> thank you. good to be here. >> so ron brownstein, you know him. he reminded me of something that's apropos. donald trump jr. had a theme to his endorsement of his father. it was, he's a blue-collar billionaire. it reminded me when he said it,

you gave a great speech to great effect in troy, michigan, about then-senator obama when he said, what a snob. everybody should go to college. what a snob. and that resonated beyond its words. ron made the suggestion that i agree with, which i wonder if this was an extension of that play, a political play of saying my father is no snob. >> his whole campaign has been focused on blue-collar america. everyone says, oh, it's about angry white people. no, it's about angry people who feel like the economy is not working for them, this whole idea. it's really what we saw in the uk. this whole idea of globalization, trade at any expense, of increasing gdp numbers or increasing profits of wall street, that that's really the goal of economic policy. what trump is saying, no, it isn't about corporate profits, it's about making sure that every american has the opportunity to rise.

and that's what's resonating. i was in the steel valley of pittsburgh a few weeks ago when trump gave his trade speech. i'm in this big aluminum recycling center, and i walk in and all these people are coming up to me because i used to represent pennsylvania. but they're all democrats who fought against me. the grandson of a former democratic congressman from there, a whole slew of democratic mayors from up and down this valley that i used to get 20% of the vote in these communities. they're at this rally. they're coming to me saying, we like this message. we like this message. we got to look out for our jobs. that is what is not -- i don't think is translating at this point, at least in the paparazzi here that are talking about this race. >> what do you say to the bind that many republicans, almost half your party, finds itself in, which is they don't buy into this guy. they buy into the message you just said. they like that message, but they don't believe that donald trump

can get it done. they don't believe he's qualified to get it done, and they're balancing that with their outward disgust of hillary clinton. what do you say to them? do you think that's saying, i can't vote for clinton is enough to get trump the presidency? >> look, i keep coming back to say it's a binary choice. we like to say you have another option. you don't have another option. you're either going to get donald trump or hillary clinton. i come back to a variety of different issues. one is that issue, which is the republican party has changed. a lot of the people in this party in leadership don't recognize that. they have refused to accept it. most of them are the funders. they have refused to accept the republican party is no longer the white suburban corporate, you know, folks that go to the club. that's not the republican party anymore. the republican party is a party that is increasingly blue collar, those suburbs that i used to win and republicans, we don't win those suburbs anymore.

the blue collar, the coal fields, the pittsburghs, the scrantons, those places are returning to republicans because the democratic policies have failed. the party of working folks, that isn't the party. hillary clinton is a wall street globalist. donald trump, who's the blue-collar guy. if that doesn't scare the living daylights out of the democratic party, i don't know what will. i think republicanings have not embraced that yet. i'm disappointed in that. but trump doesn't care. he's going to continue to focus on that. >> one of the reasons we work so hard to get to senator ron today, because we know you're in demand, we appreciate you being here. you know mike pence. >> i do. >> mike pence does not line up as a trump guy on paper, but this message is governor pence's message. what should people expect to hear tonight? >> i think you're going to hear a very convicted guy.

mike is as serious, faithful conservative, but he's someone -- when i met with mike when i was thinking about running again, i sat down with him, i said, what are you going to do, mike? he four years ago thought about running for president. we had long conversations about that. i said, mike, what are you going to do? he said, i love what i'm doing here. the first thing he brought up to me was he put in universal vocational education. he says it's the most popular thing i've done here in indiana. we have local boards that work with the schools to design programs so we can have jobs for our kids. the idea that everybody has to go to college in order to get a good job and looking down our nose at people who work with their hands, we don't do that in indiana anymore. he was so proud of that. it was like his signature accomplishment. i think you're going to probably -- hopefully you'll hear that tonight. that's the kind of message that says, look, republicans are the party of people who want to have

earned success, who understand the importance of that. it's not party we're going to give you this, give you that t promise you this, give you free college, as if that is the ticket to success when most americans, you know this, 74% of americans who are aged 25 and older don't have a college degree. no party, neither political party, until donald trump, has been talking about that. hopefully we'll hear some of that from mike tonight. >> senator, thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> clearly you're not done with politics yet. i don't care what you say, the message lives in you too deeply. we'll be talking again. thank you for being with us here. up next, the parents of an american student killed in nice have broken their silence. they want to talk about losing their son in that terror attack, what it means to them, what they believe it should mean to you. next on "new day." we'll be talking to the parents of nicholas leslie. most ribs eaten while calf roping...

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can show you coverage options to fit your budget. oh -- ohhh! she slimed me. [ laughs ] we're learning more about the victims of last week's terror attack in nice, france, when a truck plowed through a crowd following bastille day festivities. one of the 84 victims was uc berkeley student nicolas leslie. he went to france for our study abroad program. his parents are speaking out for the very first time since losing their son. conrad and paola leslie join us from nice. thank you very much for joining us. we know how hard this is

speaking out. can you tell us about what nick was doing there in nice and what his experience was thus far in paris? >> correct. it was just wonderful. he was a bright kid. he was uc berkeley. he was admitted into the school of business. he was doing a special innovation academy here where kids from berkeley, stanford, and some other universities get an opportunity to develop an idea. so he was working on an innovative project to measure athletes', you know, muscle strain and having an app that would allow coaches to substitute their players. so he was there joined by a bunch of kids from the school, just having the time of his life. he was really enjoying every single moment of his time here. >> we can imagine. and mrs. leslie, tell us what happened last week when you got the word that there had been this terrible terrorist attack

and how you started trying to find your son. >> you know, at the beginning we were hoping that he was still missing because some friends, they told us they saw him running away from the truck. so we were hoping maybe he was somewhere hiding or, i don't know, at the hospital. but hours had passed by, then days. when we arrived here, we took the plane the day after. we arrived here and they told us the news, that he didn't make it. i don't know anymore what to say. >> i'm so sorry. we can hear your heartbreak, and we feel it along with you. the idea that you went through those hours and those days of not knowing where he was and holding out hope and then, mr. leslie, you travelled to nice to try to find him, hoping that he was among the missing.

then what happened when you got there? >> correct. well, you know, we really thought he was going to be here. we brought other clothes. we thought he was just a missing person in the hospital they couldn't identify. we really thought he was going to be here. we were supported so much. you know, the u.s. embassy had sent two representatives. the italian consulate, since nicolas was dual citizenship, u.s. and italy, was here. the professors from berkeley and program managers for the program that he was involved. most important, the students that we met that were his classmates in this program were here. they greeted us. they supported us. they did everything. they went out hospital to hospital looking for him. they even got arrested by posting posters of him, missing persons. they stood by us. they forfeited some of their classes just to support us. we were just so overwhelmed by

the love and support that we got from his friends from the university, from the u.s. embassy, from the italian embassy and from all his friends and loved ones. >> gosh, that is the silver lining. you know, to hear about how loved nick was and how wonderful his friends are, which of course is a real testament to the kind of kid that he was. i know -- i can imagine the heartbreak of thinking that you were going to find your son and to bring him home alive and then to get there and get the news, how long was it until you heard, once you had landed in nice, what really had happened to him? >> well, unfortunately, it was a little sadder than that. we did a layover. we flew immediately, as soon as we had an opportunity. uc berkeley arranged for our travel. within three hours we had a ticket. we were in the airplane in italy. as soon as we landed in paris, we switched on our phones thinking that we're going to get

good news. instead, we had a voicemail, and it said we had some news on your son, and unfortunately they said it was bad news. so we heard in paris, and it was really shocking. the u.s. embassy knew about it, but they told paola's brother, and they were waiting for us to arrive. we heard it inside the airplane. it was a very difficult trip to nice. >> oh, gosh. we're so, so sorry. we can only imagine what that news would be like. i also understand that since you've been in nice, you've also learned some things about what happened with that truck and that terrorist before the attack. can you share some of the things you've learned? >> absolutely. i don't want to jump to conclusions, you know, because the investigation is still under way. the fbi is studying it. the interpol is working on it. but from what we understand, and

it's like just raw information in the news s that the truck was parked illegally, just adjacent to the area where there were like 36,000 people. it was just -- you know, france was in a state of emergency. from what we understand, and it has to be verified, that the truck was there. we just don't understand how it was allowed. we talked to the driver, and he said, i used to drive a truck and they won't even allow small little vehicles the size of a jeep cherokee to be close to that area. we just don't understand how that happened. furthermore, how he got in or how he could possibly drive for almost a mile, killing all these wonderful lives. not only our son, but there were other people that died. we met the other american family. they lost their 11-year-old boy. you walk down and you see the flowers of all these kids. it was like a senseless -- you

know, we were short for words. the only thing that keeps us going is that we had 20 incredible years with our son. he was a very special boy. we loved him very much. he wasn't only our son but our friend. you know, we spent quality time. he was loved by everybody. the way i look at it, it's like, you know, eating a gourmet plate of food. sure, we wanted more, but you get a small plate of something really good. and we enjoyed it. we had it, and it's not like we went to an all you can eat buffet, you can have 50 years with somebody. but i would rather have 20 years with nicolas that were quality than 50 years, you know, that might have been not with nicolas. >> well, we hear your love, and that is a beautiful, beautiful sentiment and a beautiful testament to your son. we can tell what wonderful parents you are.

thank you for sharing the story of him with us, and we hope that the information that you've learned can somehow be given to authorities and prevent something like this again. thank you, both, mr. and mrs. leslie, for being with us. >> thank you, alisyn. >> thank you. >> "new day" will be right back. an ordinary experience into an extraordinary one. get great offers at the lexus golden opportunity sales event. lease the 2016 es 350 for $329 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer.

for my father, impossible is just the starting point. >> i'm so proud to be your nominee for president of the united states. >> donald trump is a man of vision. >> a couple years ago, bill and hillary camped out in my state, telling anyone who'd listen why they ought to vote against me. tonight i'm here to return the

favor. >> hillary clinton, the charge of putting herself ahead of america, guilty or not guilty? >> i want to see a woman be president, but not that woman. not today, not now, not ever. >> fellow republicans, let's see this thing through. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your new day. we are live in cleveland at the republican national convention. donald trump is now officially the republican nominee for president 13 months after launching his improbable bid. two of trump's children making very personal cases for their dad with the voters last night. >> first, there are still divisions in the republican party, but one thing that seems to be unifying them is their dislike for hillary clinton. there were chants last night in the convention hall of "lock her up." they filled the arena more than once. so dr. ben carson will join us live here on "new day" in a moment to talk about all of that. we have this convention covered from every angle.

let's begin with cnn's phil mattingly. he's inside the convention center. >> reporter: well, last night, according to one trump official, was about turning the page, moving away from a rather turbulent first 24 hours of the republican convention. they got a lot of help from two very important people. the unquestioned stars of the show last night, donald trump's own children. >> it is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight. congratulations, dad. we love you. >> reporter: donald trump formally clinching the republican nomination. >> i'm so proud to be your nominee for president of the united states. >> reporter: trump's children stealing the spotlight with emotional speeches about their father. >> donald trump has never done anything halfway, least of all as a parent. >> reporter: his 22-year-old daughter tiffany getting personal.

>> i still keep all my report cards, some dating back to kindergarten because i like to look back and see the sweet notes he wrote on each and every one of them. contrary to what you might expect from someone who places emphasis on results. >> reporter: eldest son donald trump jr. calling his father his mentor and best friend, casting him as the blue-collar billionaire. >> i was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time i could walk. he didn't hide out behind some desk in an executive suite. he spent his career with regular americans. he hung out with the guys on construction sites, pouring concrete and hanging sheet rock. >> reporter: trump's children from different marriages delivering powerful testimonials of their dad. >> for my father, impossible is just the starting point. that's how he approaches business projects. that's how he approaches life. >> reporter: 24 hours earlier, trump's wife melania's well-received speech overshadowed by charges of plagiarism. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> you work hard for what you want in life.

>> that your word is your bond, that you do what you say you're going to do. >> that your word is your bond. >> reporter: the campaign repeatedly denied wrongdoing. first on "new day" -- >> to think she would be using michelle obama's words is crazy. this is once again an example of when a woman threatens hillary clinton how she seeks out to demean her and take her down. >> reporter: then hours later in a press conference. >> the american people did focus on what her message was. you all are trying to destroy that message. >> reporter: the campaign dismissing calls to fire or discipline someone over the speech controversy. >> whoever was the staff person who wrote this speech should be held accountable and should be fired it. i know accountability in the trump campaign. >> we think melania trump's speech was a great speech. >> reporter: the trump campaign not giving an inch. for those of us who have covered the campaign, we recognize this strategy. it's not going to change any

time soon. alisyn? >> sure looks like that, phil. thank you very much for that. so there was this mock trial last night amid chants of "lock her up." at times, donald trump's coronation at the gop convention felt more like a prosecution of hillary clinton. speaker after speaker slammed her. cnn's senior political reporter manu raju joins us now with that angle. hi, manu. >> hi, alisyn. chris christie led this charge against hillary clinton in what is becoming a convention full of anti-clinton messaging. but what we're seeing are convention goers eating it up. a second night of stinging attacks against hillary clinton, becoming the rallying cry of the republican national convention. >> hillary clinton lying to the american people about her selfish, awful judgment in making our secrets vulnerable. what's your verdict? guilty or not guilty? >> for 15 minutes, new jersey

governor chris christie prosecuting clinton in a mock trial before a national audience. >> in libya and nigeria, guilty. in china and syria -- >> guilty! >> in iran and russia and cuba -- >> guilty! >> and here at home for risking america's secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up -- >> guilty! >> christie's prosecutorial takedown drawing sharp criticism from both sides of the aisle. the clinton campaign tweeting soon after, if you think chris christie can lecture anyone on ethics, we have a bridge to sell you. arizona republican senator jeff flake also tweeting, clinton now belongs in prison? come on, we can make the case that she shouldn't be elected without jumping the shark. trump's other former rival, dr. ben carson, going as far as to link clinton to lucifer. >> one of her heroes, her

mentors was saul elinsky. he wrote a book called "rules for radicals." on the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. >> speaker after speaker linking clinton's e-mail and benghazi controversies to a lack of trust. >> she lied about her e-mails. she lied about her server. she lied about benghazi. she even lied about sniper fire. why in the world would democrats put forward such a candidate? >> a hillary clinton presidency will endanger our national security. >> deception and dishonesty are all second nature to hillary. >> no way, hillary.

no way on earth. >> and house speaker paul ryan scarcely mentioning trump, focussing his attention on the risk of electing clinton. >> watch the democratic party convention next week. that four-day infomercial of politically correct moralizing. you can get through four days of it with a little help from the mute button, but four more years of it? not a chance. >> now, expect that messaging to continue tonight when mike pence will address the convention as well as ted cruz, trump's former rival who may not endorse trump but will certainly attack hillary clinton. chris? >> all right, manu. appreciate the reporting. we'll check back with you in a little bit. joining us right now, former presidential candidate, dr. ben carson. thank you for joining us. it's been a while. so last night you went out there, you gave your speech, crowd was with you to be sure, but you seemed to perform a little bit of a miracle.

you seemed to have come up with the one attack on hillary clinton that not everybody wanted to fully embrace. i kept hearing on the floor, i don't think she embraces lucifer, i think this was just a -- then they would go on with their explanation. why so heavy handed trying to tie hillary clinton to lucifer? >> first of all, recognize that this is a very famous book, "rules for radicals." on the dedication page, lucifer is acknowledged in an admiral way, a radical who gained his own kingdom. if you read the book -- i don't know if you've ever read it. >> i read the studies of the book, just to figure out where you're going with this. >> please read the book. it's very interesting how it uses controlled anarchy in order to change us from a democratic republic to a socialist society. >> right. >> and i don't think those

things are consistent with the principles and the basis of this nation. >> but you seem contextually to make it like hillary clinton is carrying it around in her back pocket. it's something she mentioned in 1969 in a thesis. >> well, here's the point. we all have people who are our mentors. we all have people we admire. as a college student, she was on a first-name basis with saul. he offered her a job, but she decided to go to law school. they were very close. you look at some of the letters. but i also had a mentor. it was my mother. you know, she had a difficult upbringing, but she never let me be a victim. and the person that i am today has a lot to do with who i admire and who is my role model. >> you also said in this campaign many times, don't judge me, ben carson, by my worst moments from a hundred years ago. you've many times contextualized

criticisms of you as saying, when was that, how long ago was that, why can't you judge me on what's going on now? you do not give hillary clinton the benefit of that analysis. >> actually, i do, because in the real world, particularly in business, if someone is doing something that is inappropriate, what you do is you maybe give them remedial training or you demote them. here we have a situation where you had a person who was the first lady who was united states senator who was the secretary of state who doesn't have the knowledge or the judgment to treat classified information or even understand what it is in an appropriate way that doesn't jeopardize the country. instead of sending her for remedial training and demoting her, they're saying, let's promote her to the highest position in the land. >> legitimate argument. certainly different than blaming her for what she wrote in college. that's why i'm asking you. i get that lucifer is a powerful term, especially with a group

that is faith sensitive, but do you feel it was going too far in retrospect? >> again, when you look at the principles that are espoused by christ, by christianity, and you look at what's espoused by evil, and then you look at things like killing babies, you look at things like redefining marriage, away from what the biblical definition is, i think that there's pretty good consistency there. >> don't you think it's a little dangerous to tie gay marriage, equality of marriage, respect of lgbt with being evil? don't you think that's a little too far, once again? >> again, that's your interpretation. >> well, how am i wrong? >> okay, what i am saying is that we are talking about electing to the presidency an individual who embraces someone

who obviously is not someone who's consistent. >> i'm just saying, it's when she was in college. >> are you saying she no longer believes that? >> i'm saying i've never heard her mention the man as a mentor in all of her years in public office. >> then i have a -- >> i'll ask. there's no question about that. we'll go to the campaign today. i can predict what their answer is going to be. but i want to ask about why you saw that as the best way to go in the convention. i was wondering if it was just because you got to use lucifer. >> it's perspective. when i told alan combs about this in his program the other day, he said, oh, that was a joke. they just put that in there for a joke. >> i'm not saying that. it was something personally important to her in 1969. i think there's no question about that. it's just what you choose to use as criticism, especially as somebody who has said many times, don't judge me by something that long ago, judge me by right now. >> except you have to also use your brain. you say, if she believed that at

that time and now you look at her actions, you look at what she advocates, the killing of babies, the dissolution of the traditional family, those are consistent, quite frankly. >> so that's the case against her. in terms of the case for trump, are you happy with what's going on in the convention in terms of making a constructive case for why donald trump should be president in terms of positive for him? >> absolutely. i see a tremendous sense of coalescing going on. and that's only going to continue. i think even those individuals who are in the never trump camp will at some point begin to understand that it's not about their feelings. it's about the future of this country. and this is a pivotal election because we're deciding if we're

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donald trump securing the gop mantle on day to of the republican national convention. but as we head into the third day of the convention, are we learning any more about trump's vision for the future, or are the speakers focusing too much on hillary clinton?

listen to this. >> if b hillary clinton were elected, she'd be the first president who couldn't pass a basic background check. >> we didn't disqualify hillary clinton to be the president of the united states. the facts of her life and career disqualify her. >> they're offering a third obama term brought to you by another clinton. [ booing ] and you're supposed to be excited about that. >> not since baghdad bob has there been a public figure with such a tortured relationship with the truth. >> and as first lady, you viciously attacked the character of women who were sexually abused. >> let's discuss all of this with former lieutenant governor of south carolina and donald trump supporter andre bower and cnn political commentator and

writer for "the federalist." mr. bower, too much hillary clinton? >> i think so. i want to be the party that's positive energy and people go out to the polls not to vote against someone but because they're excited about a new opportunity, a new vision, a new direction. not only for the president but for the republican party. >> so why are they taking this tone? >> well, they're not listening to he. i want to see an inclusive party that we do more and more to do exactly what lee atwater from south carolina said in the '80s. broaden the tent, welcome new folks in. donald trump has the potential to do that, but he needs to get people on stage pushing that message. >> well, the proposition that the governor just put out there -- and i know it was lieutenant governor, but he said always say governor. mary katherine, what fights the governor's conclusion is that trump, in fact, has not been a broad based builder, despite the votes he got in the gop primary. isn't that why we're seeing the true galvanizing principle being

anti-clinton? >> yeah, that's coming from this tension. he did bring in a lot of primary voters who maybe were reliable general election voters in the past. we're not sure what the general is going to look like. that's what's always been my question. do you subtract more than you add? i think the likelihood is he will. but the tension there is why hillary clinton is the focus because that's the thing that unifies. everyone in that room, whether they agree on trump or not, agrees that she isn't an acceptable choice. >> what about the tone, mary katherine? >> i think this is designed to be a festival of your positive attributes as a party. it's not going to be that. it was never going to be that once there was this tension on trump. i don't think trump is designed to be a guy who does a fluffy, positive attributes three days. i think you're going to see that continually through this convention. >> dr. ben carson was just here. he is not an exemplar of who the party supposedly wants to be, but trump put him up there. he says hillary clinton likes people who like lucifer.

crowd goes crazy. he equates her positions on right to choose and lgbt inclusion in our democracy as being tied to anti-biblical, which i read as therefore evil notions. is that who you want to be? >> not who i want to be. i don't want to just pander to the crowd that's in that building. they have hundreds of millions of dollars in free advertising just like right now where they can get a message out to folks that will never be at a party meeting, will never meet one of these elected officials, but they can get that message out. this is an opportunity. i would rather not cater to the several thousand folks that are there but reach out in the suburbs to people that are working, trying to find the answer to making their life better. >> help us remember what conventions used to be like before the trump era. were they just sort of wonky policy discussions? what did it used to feel like? >> it was a lot of artifice. i think that's what people like about donald trump. everyone says the theme yesterday was making america work, and we didn't hear about that. of course you didn't. this is a donald trump convention.

i think it's fine to point out that olinsky is a poisonous force in american politics. i think that's true. going to lucifer is not helpful to your message. i think there were people on the stage last night that donald trump could take notes from, including his son and chris christie. chris christie stayed on message, went after hillary in a hard way, and it's something trump has been unable to do when he's on the stump. he makes one passing reference to hillary and moves on to talking junk about suzanne martinez. >> but chris christie also worked the crowd up to a lather, to the point where they were chanting "lock her up, lock her up." >> all of these are steps a little too far in my book. >> that's the opening, the problem of going after the clintons in the past has been overreach. you have her. she got caught in the e-mail thing. but it wasn't a crime. but the message inside that room universally is, oh, no, it was a crime. she committed a crime. she knowingly sent classified information to people who did

not have that classification or status. that happens to be not true, according to the head of the fbi. >> the statute is gross negligence. many people will say you don't need intent -- >> it has never been prosecuted on the basis of gross negligence. facts matter. the head of the fbi said -- it's been prosecuted twice, both times on the basis of intent. >> a lot of people in that room, me included, would say, hey, it seems unfair the get out of jail free card, and i don't mean literal jail, is to run for president. like, you're pasted point where we can punish you for something that was very, very bad. there are punishments for this, even if they're not criminal punishments. she will not be subjected to president because she is the nominee for president. i don't think that's a fair situation. >> i actually thought the attorney general of arkansas did a great job on the negative clinton perspective from a

woman's point of view, perspective from an elected point of view. i thought she did a good job of beating up hillary and exemplifying an elected woman that's a republican. >> i just want to make the point about donald trump jr. he's up there, and i think he sort of illustrated a generational divide in that room and in the republican party that i feel -- >> he stole the show. >> i think some older voters look at donald trump and go, that works for me. many young voters on the republican side do not. i see the trump kids and go, well, that's something i recognize. he's talking about school choice. he's thought through some constitutional issues. he put together a speech that it feels like he thought about for a while. i appreciate that. >> what does it mean for trump's son to give the endorsement you should have had from the senate majority leader or a big official? >> they know him very well, so i'll keep that in mind and trust it to some extent. they've always kept it in the family. that's a question i have about what an administration would look like. certainly donald trump jr. did his dad some favors. >> absolutely. >> mary katherine, mr. bower, thanks so much for being here on

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we cannot make the chief law enforcement officer of the united states someone who has risked america's secrets and lied to the american people about it day after day after day. we didn't disqualify hillary clinton to be president of the united states. the facts of her life and career

disqualify her. >> that was new jersey governor chris christie blasting hillary clinton. we heard that a lot last night. that was his speech at the republican convention. attacks on clinton emerging as the common theme though. she's mentioned more by speakers than even the nominee donald trump was. so joining me now is democratic senator from ohio, sherrod brown. he's endorsed hillary clinton and is on her short list for vice president. >> welcome to my city. >> your city is fabulous. >> i live six miles from here. the suit i'm wearing was made by union workers five miles from here. >> is that right? >> i'm thrilled you're in cleveland. this is a great city. it's coming back, doing well. still lots of problems, but having the convention is a big, big deal for us. >> that's great. so what is it like to have the convention here and to hear all of donald trump's supporters basically -- last night there were chants in the convention hall from his delegates and supporters of "lock her up, lock her up," referring to the candidate you support, hillary

clinton. >> well, just watching the show a couple guests ago, talking about lucifer. i made a promise, as i said to you, i made a promise a week ago that i will not criticize the republicans, the republican party, or donald trump while they're in cleveland at this convention. i mean, i'm not a host for this , per se, but it's in my city. >> that's awfully gracious of you. >> gracious or not, i want to celebrate that they're here. i expect colleagues, of course, other democrats to be critical. >> but as a supporter, don't you need to speak out when you hear people saying things you think are below the belt? i know you want to extend the welcome mat to people in cleveland, but isn't it incumbent upon you to correct them if you think there's -- >> sure, and i will defend i think that hillary clinton is -- during the ohio primary when i was with bill clinton in akron, ohio, and hillary was somewhere else in the state and i introduced bill but i said, no offense, mr. president p but hillary clinton is the most qualified person to run for

president in my lifetime. he agreed and applauded. the audience did too. there's no question how qualified she is. i'm just not going to make the contrast with trump this week. this is convention rhetoric. the people you hear this year had the same angry look on their face as they did four years ago talking about barack obama. just different words, many of the same people, much of the same tone, the same anger. a lot of anger on the stage. that's too bad, but there will be time to answer all that. >> well, there are some things that governor chris christie raised that maybe now is the time to answer. one of the things he talked about was that as secretary of state, he doesn't believe that hillary clinton prepared adequately for life after gadhafi in libya and that some of the chaos we've seen there and the violence should have been thought out. >> let's debate those issues without name calling. look at the debates, the tone of the democratic debates versus the republican debates leading up to this. i think you can have these debates about benghazi, although

the committee that analyzed this, spending millions of taxpayer dollars, you saw hillary stand up to these committees. >> sure, not just benghazi, but libya. >> we can debate those, but let's look at her record of secretary of state. she built the foundation for the iran agreement, which any fair-minded people say will keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of the iranians, will keep that -- will stop that nuclear program for a much longer period of time. it was a terrific victory for israel, for the middle east, for our safety. let's debate her as secretary of state, but let's not call her names and have people shout out things that just aren't appropriate. >> is no one going to call donald trump any names next week in philadelphia? >> of course they are. but again, we'll make the contrast between her qualifications and his. he went through a whole primary where they called each other names and attacked each other's families. that seems to be -- again, i'm

drawing a line here because i don't want to be particularly critical this week when they're in my city. but that led to this kind of speech at the convention. when somebody that was a presidential candidate is talking about lucifer and just being on this show and i hear that rhetoric far too much and i know we'll hear it into november and it will be an angry campaign. i wish we could talk about her record as secretary of state and talk to her employees and some of his employees. ping hillary clinton wins on those. >> we have learned that as early as friday hillary clinton may be announcing her vice presidential pick. what have you heard? >> i've read those reports, the same ones you have. i heard she's going to florida to make the announcement with the vice president. i have no idea. i don't talk about this. i've not talked about this from the beginning. nl nl >> i know you haven't, but are you interested in the job? >> i'm not talking about vice president no matter how you ask about it. but i appreciate your style.

>> i hope you appreciate this next kwquestion on the same top. we've heard it's come down to two candidates, tim kaine and tom vilsack. who would you like to see? >> nice try. first of all, you've heard -- >> our cnn reporting. this is more than idle gossip. >> there's a chance that might be right. there's a chance it isn't. i really don't know. i know you don't know. i know i don't know. i'm assuming that tim kaine and secretary vilsack don't know that either. but i don't know. i'm not avoiding. i just think it's improper for me to talk about. i know i'm saying i'm not going to criticize republicans this week. i'm also not going to talk about the vice president. have me back on friday or saturday and i'll answer all your questions directly. >> you've limited me to just talking about cleveland restaurants, which is fantastic. >> the last time a republican convention was in my state was in this city in 1936. the republicans nominated alf

landen. he carried maine and vermont. i'm not predicting their candidate this year will do the same. >> senator, thanks for being here. donald trump's children were in the national spotlight last night. did they do a good job of humanizing their father in their speeches? we'll look at their role in his campaign coming up. at the beginning of the 21st century, the earth needed to find a new way to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. just 30 billion? so, a bold group of researchers and computer scientists in silicon valley had a breakthrough they called... the machine. the machine. it changed the basic architecture of computing... putting a massive pool of memory at the center of everything. and by doing so... it changed the world. it's been a part of every new technology

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two of donald trump's children getting personal and very effective on stage about their dad last night. did they humanize him with

voters? how much does that matter? joining us now is cnn political commentator carl bernstein. many topics deserve your perspective this morning. let's start with this. what is the perceived value, and what do you believe will be the practical effect of what we heard from donald jr. and tiffany? >> i think they were very helpful. i think you have to put them into context of the whole convention. the case that donald jr. made for his father being a builder is part of the narrative that is they're trying to create at this convention. but let's look at really what's happening here. that is indeed to say that hillary clinton is the issue in this election as far as the republican party is concerned and they have a candidate with a different vision. i suggested yesterday that this election is really the gettysburg of the culture wars of the last 30 years. whoever wins this election, the

culture wars are going to move or be decided in a definitive way. >> what does that mean? >> meaning that at gettysburg we had a divided country, we had a civil war. we have a civil war going on in this country. >> what do you mean by definitive? >> whoever wins this election -- culture war has been going on for 30 years. there's going to be a decision in this election that moves the country for years and years and years to come. i think that's part of what we're seeing in the way the republicans are going about it and trump. he's a new kind of general in the culture wars. >> dig a little deeper on that for us. if donald trump wins, then what does the culture of america look like through your lens? >> i think -- well, there's no way to predict what the culture will look like except that the rules of engage the are going to be changed totally. he would be a new kind of president, not necessarily a capable or competent one.

that's her issue. that's the democrats' response. we're going to see it at their convention, every bit as tough going back at donald trump and his line, which is pathological in many regards, as what they accuse her of. so we're in a scorched earth war. that's what we're seeing. i think that this convention has been surprisingly effective in terms of fighting that war, including the kids, the way that the trump people want it fought. >> the idea of -- >> so far. >> right. >> people like ben carson with that bizarre performance can send it over the other edge. >> well, it's interesting you say that because i have questions about what dr. carson does and its value for the audience. there's no question he was effective within a segment of his party, but that also petered out. >> i don't think he was terribly effective within his own party. i think a lot of people blanched.

someone at cnn, i hope, will do a piece on her thesis. it's available to read. it's not the way he characterizes. >> the book is in there. >> i wrote "a woman in charge: the life of hillary rodham clinton," the standard biog rapy biography. one of the absolute pillars of her life, and she's kept it under the radar, is religion. always has been. carries a bible with her, underlines it, looks for parables. the notion of lucifer is so preposterous in what he was saying. let's not even go there. >> but preposterous doesn't make it in effective. >> that's what i'm saying. >> she knowingly sent classified information to people who were unsecure. that's not try according to the fbi director, but it's true inside. >> what she did is indefensible. what she did -- and comey made it very clear. >> but not illegal. >> not illegal in terms of

bringing a case before a grand jury or into a courtroom. whether it's illegal or not, he did not quite say. what she did is indefensible. it was reckless. she has lied about it. that is why, especially after comey, she is now baked in this perception among too many people in this country for her comfort as a liar, as distrusted, and so we now have -- >> over 50%. >> and we now have an election between these two people who are disdained by most americans. we've never had a situation like this before. that's why we're in this scorched earth civil war, gettysburg, whatever the analogy is. we're in a place we've never been before, but what happens at the end of it is going to change our country irrevocably. >> that's why it was so interesting to hear from donald trump's children last night, particularly tiffany, who you don't hear from as much, because she did give a new light, cast her father in a new light as sort of sensitive father that we

haven't heard. are they good enough witnesses? >> first of all, i think donald trump jr. was very effective in a counternarrative about the life of his father to what we've heard about him being a crooked businessman and we're going to hear a lot more about that. let's look at that question. he has a record of fraudulent dealings. he won't release his taxes. unheard of for a presidential candidate. and the terrible thing is, hillary clinton can't effectively go after him on his taxes because she won't release her damn speeches that she was paid for in the goldman sachs instanc instances. it is a terrible bind. her people know this election is up for grabs. some of them are horrified. what they're horrified at, particularly old friends and supporters of hillary clinton who believe in her, is that she has made it possible, perhaps, for donald trump to become the president of the united states.

>> carl bernstein, always great to get your perspective on all this. >> good to be here. the trump campaign says the controversy over melania trump's speech is much ado about nothing. are they right? we'll get perspective from a former speech writer for george w. bush, next. . but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet?

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so first let's just deal with what's true when it comes to melania trump speech situation. if you put her segment next to michelle obama, they're the same. or substantially the same in several instances. >> portions. >> yeah, portions, substantially similar. what we're hearing from the trump campaign since yesterday, again right now this morning, that is not true. they are melania's words, they are her thoughts, and it is the media and hillary clinton who is trying to convince you otherwise. does this matter? is this going to resonate somehow? let's talk to people who can take the question on in interesting ways. we have senior editor for the atlantic and former speech writer for george w. bush, mr. david frum, and columnist for bloomberg view, we have a fphonc

for your name. >> what is the sin here if any, and what do you make of how the trump campaign handled it? >> there are two sins. the first sin is plagiarism is stealing. you're taking something that somebody else did and presenting it as your own when you don't own it. you acquire ownership through your own creativity. the speech writing process where you write words for someone else, that's with a contract, an understanding, one person agrees to have words written for another. that's not stealing. this is stealing. in this case, it is work than a sin. it is a blunder. because those words condemn melania out of her own mouth. once you know where they're from, you realize how not true they are, when they describe donald trump, his word is his bond. no. he keeps his promises. no he treats people with dignity and respect. no. he values hard work. well, after this plagiarism, we

can say obviously not true either. >> ramesh, is there something to this? >> well, they've made it into a tem pest themselves by their ridiculous insistence that the sky is green in response. so last night, donald trump, jr. says we don't want hillary clinton responding to the 3m phone call about an international emergency. they cannot handle a plagiarism controversy. >> what should they have do. >> we'll avoid it in the future done. >> paul manafort many be many things, an one of them is not dumb or handling scandal. what he is betting on here is, hmm, people don't like you, the people who vote for me don't like you and don't trust you, cuo cuomo. if you say i did something wrong, there is a chance i'll get past it. the people i want to vote for

me, maybe they're lying about this little thing, hillary clinton lies about big things. we still win. >> he is bet ting if he lies enough, you'll get tired that he lying. >> except, i will tell you, the response we've had to the situation is in major part, one, you're right. two, so what. she is much worse. why don't you go after her for her lying, instead of this penny anty lying you're going after. >> after there is enough lying and enough proof of really disturbing behaviors over a whole lifetime by donald trump, you begin to ask is she worst. >> that's the response from trump supporters. the problem he needs to grow his support. it is not not to lose supporters because of this, he needs to be broadcasting a bless sage that is gaining him new supporters

instead of talking about this, totally self-inflicted wound. >> so to that end, what do you think about when they have the bull horn at the convention and the message is that they've been putting out. they don't want to put out melania plagiarism. we've been talking about that. what about what they are talking about at the convention. >> they have wandered all over their themes. there was no discussion of jobs last night, and that was a night that was supposed to be dedicated to jobs. you did i think have effective speeches. i think donald, jr. gave a more coherent speech, and a higher bar for trump himself to clear. it is a depressed convention. this is -- i've been to every convention on both sides from '96 onward. i have never seen less enthusiasm. >> how do you say that? when we see the chanting, people crying when they hear stories, and people cheering, where do

you see lack of enthusiasm. >> i see people leaving the hall early. i just -- it is, you know, you always have people in the hall who are into the speech, or decided to be there. it is just less this time. >> something else as well, david. head of the delegation, i said so how are you getting his state certainly has a lot of republicans who aren't embracing trump. how are you getting them there? one quick little phrase, she's worst. she's worst. that's what we're hearing echoed again and again in this convention. why isn't that enough, given the climate in america. >> here is why it isn't enough. because hillary clinton has room to become from a republican point of view less worst. she is going to have a convention next week. it will be run properly. the app will work, it won't be a disaster. if there is trouble, it will be dealt with in a professional way. then she will have a night after night a couple of nights to

lockdown her left, and then two bigger nights to speak to maybe not that trump supporter, but his wife and his children. and to say to them, this man, this donald trump represents something that, yeah, if you're really locked in into the republican world, you have to swallow it. >> but she is just as upside down positive to negative, and what can she do to make the e-mail or en gbenghazi go away. >> taxes are too high. >> bam. gentlemen, thank you. thank you, guys. >> truth hurts. >> great to talk to you. >> beaten again. it wasn't you this time. we have a lot more convention coverage coming. let's get right to it. four years of hillary clinton will bring all the

failures of the obama years with less charm and more lies. >> deception and dishonesty are all second nature to hillary. >> hillary clinton will say anything, do anything, and be anything to get elected president. >> donald trump has never done anything halfway. >> we are going to make america great again. >> the clinton years are way over. 2016 is the year america moves on. >> a president who will unleash the greatness in our nation. that president can only be my father, donald trump. >>announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo and alisyn come rota. welcome. it is july 20, 8:00 in the east. we're live here in cleveland at the republic national convention, all sorts of excitement and news. these things used to be snooze fest. >> who said?

>> ted copple. >> there was no cnn grill then, either. >> indeed. >> so donald trump, doing last night what many thought months ago he would never be able to do, 13 months after launching his improbable bid, trump has clinched the republican nomination officially. his children, making very personal speeches about their dad last night. >> but much of the focus at the convention, unquestionably, has not been pumping up trump. it has been speaker after speaker, bringing down hillary clinton. for example, last night, the big man was chris christie doing this. he fired up the crowd, delegates started chanting, "lock her up." why does it matter. we've got every angle covered. let's begin with phil mattingly. >> reporter: hey, chris. trump advisors, the 24 hours weren't exactly ideal. but tuesday, right on point. one big reason why.

donald trump's kids, the unquestioned stars of tuesday night's show. >> it is my honor to be able to throw donald trump over the top in the delegate count tonight. congratulations, dad. we love you! >> reporter: formally clinching the republican nomination. >> i'm so proud to be your nominee for president of the united states. >> reporter: trump's children, stealing the spotlight with emotional speeches about their father. >> donald trump has never done anything halfway. least of all as a parent. >> reporter: his 22-year-old daughter, tiffany, getting personal. >> i still keep all of my report cards, some dating back to kinder garden, because i like to look back and see the sweet notes he wrote on each and everyone of them. >> reporter: he would dest son, donald, jr., calling his father his mentor and best friend, casting him as the blue collar billionaire. >> i was there with him by his

side on jobsites, in conference rooms from the time i could walk. he didn't hideout behind some desk in an executive suite. he spent his career with regular americans. he hung out with the guys on construction sites, pouring concrete. >> reporter: trump's children from different marriages, delivering powerful testimonials. >> for my father, impossible is just the starting point. that is how he approaches business projects. that's how he approaches life. >> reporter: 24 hours earlier, trump's wife, melania, well received speech, overshadowed by charges of plajerrism. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> that your word is your bond. that you do what you say you're going to do. >> that your word is your bond. >> reporter: the campaign repeatedly denying wrongdoing. first on "new day." >> to think she would be cribbing michelle obama's words

is crazy. this is once again an example of when a woman threatens hillary clinton, she seeks out to demean her and take her down. >> reporter: then hours later, in a press conference. >> american people focused on what her message was. you're trying to distort the message. >> reporter: dismissing or firing someone over the speech controversy. >> who was the staff person who wrote the speech should be fired. i know accountability in the trump campaign. >> we think the melania trump speech was a great speech. >> reporter: chris, you talk to a lot of republicans yesterday about this speech, her plagiarism and dis belief was the primary word you would hear. the frustration wasn't about melania trump. it wasn't about thepeech itself. it was well received inside the hall. it is what it means in the broader campaign. how something like this could happen. trump advisors made it clear, they're moving on past this, no acknowledgment of a mistake, no

apology. their strategy, attack and move forward. they're not moving off of that at all, chris. >> phil, i heard the same thing on the floor last night. there was a whisper of concern if the campaign can't handle something small like this, what if they get in and have to run the government. but they did get back on track. phil mattingly is right, and donald trump's coronation certainly was great for him, but even more importantly, bad for hillary clinton. it was like a trial, and she the accused. speaker after speaker, questioning the former secretary of state's character, and judgment. cnn political reporter, manu raju, joins us now with more. even that's putting it mildly, manu. they were saying she should be in jail. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. you know, the theme of yesterday's convention was to making america work, but it was just filled with accusations that hillary clinton broke the law and she deserves time in jail. and what we found is that those attacks on hillary clinton are uniting the republican party.

a second night of stinging attacks against hillary clinton. becoming the rallying cry of the republican national convention. >> hillary clinton lying to the american people about her selfish, awful judgment in making our secrets vulnerable. what is your verdict? guilty or not guilty? >> reporter: for 15 minutes, new jersey governor, chris christie, prosecuting clinton in a mock trial, before a national audience. >> in libya and nigeria, guty? in china and syria -- in iran and russia and cuba? and here at home for risking america's secrets to keep her own and lying to cover it all up -- >> guilty. >> reporter: prosecution take down, drawing criticism from

both sides of the aisle. the clinton campaign tweeting, if you think chris christie can lecture anyone on ethics, we have a bridge to sell you. arizona republican senator, jech flake, also tweeting, clinton belongs in prison. come on. we can make the case that she shouldn't be elected without jumping the shark. trump's other former rival, dr. ben carson, going as far as to link clinton to lucifer. >> one of her heros, her mentors was saul olinski. he wrote a book, "rules for rad kickles." it acknowledges lucifer. are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. >> reporter: speaker after speaker, linking the e-mail and benghazi controversy to a lack of trust. >> she lied about her e-mails.

she lied about her server. she lied about benghazi. she even lied about sniper fire. why in the world would democrats put forward such a candidate. >> a hillary clinton presidency will endanger our national security. >> deception and dishonesty are all second nature to hillary. >> no way, hillary. no way on earth. >> reporter: house speaker, paul ryan, scarcely mentioning trump, focusing his attention on the risk of electing clinton. >> watch the democratic party next week, that four day infomercial of politically correct morelizing. you can get four days of it with the help of the mute button, but four more years of it. not a chance. >> reporter: we'll see tonight how mike pence, donald trump's running mate, talks about the issues going forward and whether

or not he'll layout what a trump/pence administration would do. we have not heard a whole lot about that this week. another thing to keep your eyes on alisyn, ted cruz, the trump rival who has not endorsed donald trump, how will he talk about donald trump and what will he say going forward. we're not expecting an endorsement from ted cruz tonight. but we probably are expecting more attacks on hillary clinton. alisyn. >> that's a good bet, manu. so let's talk about that now. we want to bring in sam clovis, the national chair for -- >> good to see you. people will start talking. >> we have been meeting a lot for breakfast. >> on national tv. that's okay. reality as it gets. >> let's talk about what happened last night. so the crowd was pretty worked up, and they at times were chanting during chris christie's sort of indictment of hillary clinton, i think it is fair to say, "lock her up." then you saw in manu's piece, republican senator, jeff flake

said we have jumped the shark here. we don't have to go that far to just criticize hillary what do you think? >> i think two things i think that really, we need to two modalities that we have to talk about. what goes inside the convention hall, and the rhetoric that comes from the stage for that audience, and for that group. the other thing is what impact does that have on the american voter. this is something that i think has been missed by a lot of people. i know we talk about it. i know we're -- you know, we get in here and grind down to the four decimal places on a lot of things, but we have to figure out what this means to the american people. >> yes, and some people would say it is toxic for the american voter. this kind of language and this kind of polarization has been toxic during this election. >> i thought about this last night when i was listening to the convention and i thought about it a lot this morning. knowing i was going to come in and talk to you. because one of the things i think that's been very clear to

me is that for the most part, people who are in your business, and i don't mean this as any criticism, people who are in my business, we still haven't gotten what's going on in this country. there is a reason that we are where we are today. there is a reason that donald trump has risen to the position of being the nominee of the republican party. this is not my father's republican party. >> yes. >> this is not even my republican party of ten years ago. >> so you're saying that reason is anger. that's what i'm gleaning from what you're saying. >> i'm saying it is disappointment and anger and abandonment. the thing that we've talked about this often, most of the people have not had a chance to really absorbing what's going on and fly over country. people's wages haven't gone up. their lives are not better. they can't afford to send their kids to college. they can't buy that new refrigerator. there is a reason. they don't know who to blame. the government has come in and promised for decades that the

government -- we'll take care of it. we'll pat you on the head. but treat us like, you know, the mignons that a lot of people think we are. i'm sorry. >> no, i hear that anger. you've come on with that message a lot. i've interviewed scores of trump supporters and panels, but there is also an accusation of ginnig them up. the guilty, guilty, lock her up, is that falling into that? >> well, you've got to remember, the people that are here, 2,500 delegates and the other 3 or 4,000 republicans that have come in and the 20,000 people that will be around this event, these are activists. these are the red meat eaters. these are the raw meat eaters. these are the people who have been involved in this and they're closest to it. you might expect to see that kind of emotion coming. i think what we do, let's separate one level of extraction, maybe twochlt let's go out and talk to that person who is everyday right now the

kids are out for summer. they're looking at vacation, come up here to the lake. maybe to do those things. their worries and concerns are such that they have so much uncertainty in their lives, they're looking for a leader. and they're willing, i think, most people in this country, look at the two candidates. you've talked about the negativity in all of the other aspects, how they're perceived. they're looking for a leader. i think this is one of the reasons that we have seen such an incredible electoral cycle this time. >> whoever was responsible for melania trump's lifted passages be fired? >> the campaign will take care of that. that is an area that i think that we have people in this campaign, people of great integrity and they will take care of it. >> meaning they'll fire someone. >> they'll take care of it. >> what does that mean. >> they'll take care of it. >> vague. let's talk about what's going to happen tonight, sam. so let me show you the roster -- >> i'm getting better at this, aren't i?

>> i see that. you are. let's talk about the roster of who will be on tonight. tonight, we have a lot of people, including former rivals of donald trump, governor scott walker, senator marco rubio appearing via video. senator ted cruz. what are these guys going to say? are they going to endorse him? >> i think they'll stand up there and they'll talk about unity of the party, because going forward, this is what conventions are about. this is probably been in my lifetime probably the most contested or hotly contested primary cycle. i've been following campaigns since 1956. i was 7 years old. and so i think this has been unique in my lifetime. i think that we're going to see those people stand up and talk about bringing the party together. >> but not an endorsement? >> i think they will. i'm hoping they will. let's put it that way. >> mike pence, what does he need to say? >> i think this is great. governor pence is a -- here is what i think is interesting. i don't know if you had a chance to see a speech yesterday he was giving a speech here in ohio. >> yep.

>> i thought he was really on point. it was him, and what i know about him, i was so intrigued by it. because he is serious. he is a serious conservative. i think you're going to hear that case tonight from governor pence. you're going to hear that case from senator cruz. serious, conservative thought. and i think those are the things that a lot of the people in the floor of the convention are looking for. because what that does, it gives a strong under pinning for us going forward and helps us build this incredible contrast between donald trump and hillary clinton. >> and is that why donald trump chose mike pence to give that conservative underp conservative under pinning? >> i think for many of us, it was a strong choice, and i think it was -- he is a great compliment to mr. trump in a lot of ways. i think that this is -- you have to understand, mr. trump is looking for someone he can

trust, and someone that he can turn to when he needs a tough decision, and frankly, somebody who is going to push back once in a while. believe it or not, mr. trump is a guy that really does appreciate that. >> oh, yeah? >> he appreciates people who are strong, and if you're strong and you're able to deal with, i ought to know. i've been there, you know. >> what are you pushing back on? >> oh, i think a lot of time, just the idea of where we are on ideas and policy and movement. and trust me, he is never far off. it is just a matter of nudging him in a direction one way or the other. he is a man of his own mind. make no mistake. he is strong willed and powerful ca charismitc. >> we know more about the speech. the speech writers say, no plajerrism. how did it get into so much

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welcome back to "new day." melania trump's controversial speech, controversial not in its delivery, but its origination, coming in part from michelle obama's 2008 convention speech. that conversation is still ongoing, because the campaign is still denying what i just told

you. so we're learning new details about how the situation evolved to this point. let's discuss with cnn political director, david chelian and correspondent of the new york times, maggie haberman and cnn political analyst and host of the david gregory podcast, david gregory. maggie, as is often the case, you have advance understanding on an issue that is at play in this campaign what do we now know about how we got to this point with the speech? >> we know that professional speech writers have been on contract with the campaign, matt scully and his partner, john mcconnell. >> george w. bush's era. >> correct. they were involved with his 9/11 address to the nation. they did a version of a speech that they delivered in june. and then got, you know, early feedback from jared kushner, the son-in-law of donald trump,

saying this looks good. they didn't hear anything and they waited and waited and finally had some contact with the campaign about 10 or 11 days ago, and told it was being -- as it shows up, it was almost unrecognizable. melania trump for whatever reason didn't like the draft. she consulted with some people, one of them was a woman named meredith mcgguivre. it is not clear how it ended up there, but it is clear that there was an earlier version that she was not enamored of and took control of the process in some way. >> so david, if this were just melania trump doing this, and she is the one who added the words and maybe influenced about michelle obama, case oh closed. nobody to be fired, that's it. >> you can't fire the spouse. that's a rule in politics. >> but she can fire you.

>> but listen, i do think that is the question. if we are -- i don't know that we'll ever be able to figure it out. if indeed melania is the one that watched videos and was inspired by something or liked a thought she saw and asked for that to be in, or pencilled it in or selherself, or whoever wa helping to put together that would be more acceptable to melania, found it and put it in, i don't know that we'll flow that difference. what we do know is how the campaign dealt with it. that's the most informative thing out of this, which is they just want to steam roll through it. it is like with the john baron, john miller, pseudonyms that donald trump used as his own spokesperson. we hear the audio tape and it is clearly donald trump, no, that's not me. just keep moving on. that's their posture. they're going to keep pushing through our obsession until we

move on from it. >> what is the risk, other than making us upset, which clearly not only does the trump campaign care -- >> no penalty for making us upset, not in this country or any other country. there is a risk, if you spend now, what, two full nights talking about hillary clinton lying, and that she should go to prison, when you lie in the face of anything that contradicts your world views, so here is evidence that says you quibbed from michelle obama, well, that's not true. you make fun of a new york times reporter, no, we didn't do that. how does that make the case you're making against hillary clinton. this is also sloppiness and incompetence. you're making a case stroepush donald trump needs those folks, the party has been losing them to democrats. they want to see somebody who is

in charge and knows how to run things and who is competent. it just undermines this and there is no reason for it. >> maggie, don't believe your own lying eyes, as david cited lots of different times. we keep being told, now is when voters start paying attention, at the convention. all the other voters, not the diehards, everybody else starts take attention. do we have a sense that regular voters care about these mishaps? >> people are definitely reading about it and talking about it. it is way to soon to know what if any impact that will have. i don't think it helps at the -- certainly the opening night, the convention is about appealing to people who are not already on the trump train. and so it is an unfortunate, you know, overshadowing, especially for a speech that was well received, on a night that was pretty doom and gloom in all the other speeches. she gave an uplifting delivery and compelling message about her husband.

i do think this will largely be washed away by focus on donald trump's speech, because that's ultimately what's going to matter tomorrow night as well as how well mike pence does tonight. his kids, tiffany and done, jr., gave pretty compelling testimonials. that will help wash away some of this. >> inside baseball, the audience likes inside baseball, you know where it doesn't get washed away. she didn't want to do this. this is why. she is not going to forget it. how that plays out, we'll see. david, you're the man who knows. on the floor last night, we saw proof positive to why this isn't going to matter. big delegation. part of the state not for trump. part of the delegation, not for trump. say to the delegation, what are you going to do. easy. one phrase. she is worst. did they lie? yes. does it matter? no, because hillary lies about things that matter bigger and

more. that's their case. is it enough? >> it is definitely the unifying factor. that is what brings a fractured republican party right now together like nothing else. so when you hear chants two nights in a row on the floor, "lock her up" that's the rallying cry, you can just hear, that's one thing that brings everyone in the room together. i think that when you have as high negatives as you have with both of these candidates, these are the two most unpopular presidential candidates in history. this hammering will be through novemb november. that's their vulnerability. >> but he has got over 60% of voters who don't think he is qualified to do the job. he has to present himself and an agenda that voters can rally around. >> panel, thank you vech. maggie, thank you for your reports, david, happy birthday. >> thanks, alisyn. >> everyday is his birthday when it is a political calendar year.

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you know this story. melania trump gave a speech about her husband. it was well received. it was compelling. parts of it were lifted from michelle obama's speech in 2008. this is a story that began here on "new day" yesterday. taken to a new level by the campaign, because they deny what i just told you. let's see if this story can end here today as well. to talk about that situation, and what's going on in the convention and what is to come on the big night tonight, with governor pence and then tomorrow, with donald trump. we have the trump campaign chairman, mr. paul manafort. paul, thank you very much for coming back on the show to discuss this. the first proposition i think to get out of the way is the

simplest. the speech had portions of it that came from michelle obama's speech in 2008. it is as plain as day to look at them side by side. can you acknowledge that, and then move on? >> what i'm going to do chris, you're right for the final time is to say the speech that melania trump gave was a speech that she felt was very personal to her. it was a speech that talked about her love of air country, how she immigrated here, and it talked about meeting a man named donald trump who she fell in love with and raised family with. she wanted to talk to the american people about those personal feelings and thoughts. the speech was very effective. it communicated those feelings. the controversy that you're talking about is not meaningful at all. she is not a candidate for office. she was expressing her personal feelings about her country and her husband, and why he is best for the united states. and i agree, that's the final word. >> except, paul, all of that can

be true, except that you are denying by failing to acknowledge something that is also true. which is that some of those words came from michelle obama's speech in 2008. you have every kind of expert and anybody with eyes who sees that, you keep ignoring it. i don't understand why. i don't understand why you keep making this an issue. >> because it is a speech that she gave, talking about her feelings. she is not a candidate for offer office. could get into the reasons again. what we want to talk about today, the republican party has a nominee for president. the nominee who started a campaign about a year ago, everybody said was a long shot and then as it got the chances got shorter and shorter and more likely, everybody kept saying why it wouldn't happen. last night, at 7:17, donald trump became the nominee of the republican party, defied all the

conventional wisdom and put himself in a position to become the 45th president of the united states. that's the story. he is the candidate running for president. it is his vision that the american people are going to be talking about. and we are all excited that in the last two nights, between melania's speech and speeches by don, jr. and tiffany yesterday, the american people will get a glimpse beyond the campaign image into the real man. we're excited about it. the convention is working as far as we're concerned. tonight, we're especially excited that governor pence will come on stage and present his credentials, which we think will further embellish the chances of our party. >> paul, i understand all of that. the reason that this matters, though, is that frankly you're distracting from the story line by refusing to acknowledge something that's true, and it plays into two issues. the first is, a big part of the case i'm hearing here at the convention for why donald trump

needs to be president is hillary clinton can't be trusted. that she doesn't level with the american people. which is another way of saying she lies. that is what this is going on right now with this issue that should be small about this speech. you don't like that you got caught with some of michelle obama's language in the speech. who knows how it happened. you don't want to acknowledge it, because that's the way the campaign works. that plays into the second problem. which is that when faced with something that you did wrong, you just deny it, no matter whether it is true or not. whether it is the man who has a developmental disability who works for "the new york times," and donald trump mocks him and says no, i didn't. whether it is a star that represents the star of david, and you say no, it is a sheriff's star. there is a pattern, whether it is baron, john miller, really donald trump. there is a pattern of denying the obvious. what happens when you're running the government of the united states and you don't want to deal with what happens then. that's the concern.

that's why i don't understand you won't just own this little thing and move on. >> well, chris, i guess it is all in the eye of the beholder. the bat earnpattern of the medi looking on what's going on in america, what is happening in the trump campaign. look at what is it being tapped into and look at why it is working. not why it's failing, but it's working. you've been pointing out things that aren't true, this will be a problem for the trump campaign, you've been wrong. consistently. the american people disagree with your perceptions of all the things you just said. it is the same thing. a you're looking at things that don't exist, and the broader message that does exist and the american people are responding to. last night, donald trump contrary to everything you said -- >> but that's untrue. i don't know where you were at the beginning of this campaign, but i would have loved to talk to you then, do you think donald trump will be the nominee. i don't think it makes you crazy

or jaundice to be surprised about it. there is no question you deserve a lot of credit for you getting him there. i've got to go back to this other point though, paul. i have to. the idea that we're ignoring something that doesn't matter flies in the face of what we're about. this is about the truth. it is about the truth. that's all it is about. the language came from michelle obama's speech. >> the truth is the words -- the truth is the feelings that were expressed by melania trump that night, which you don't want to focus on. it was the message she was communicating. that's the truth. >> of course i want to focus on it. we say she gave a good speech. we say it was compelling. >> then move on. >> but i can't move on. because you keep lying about it, so i can't move on from it. because i have to -- >> chris i'm not lying about anything. >> what is true. did the language, did a portion of the language of that speech come from michelle obama's speech, yes or no? >> as far as we're concerned, there are similar words that

were used. we've said that. but the feelings of those words, and the commonalty of those words do not create a situation which we feel we have to agree with you. you want to have that opinion, fine. you want to talk about it for the next six months -- >> it is not an opinion. that's the problem. >> okay, well -- >> paul, i'm not here to beat you over the head with it. i thought you were going to own it and move on and move onto the great things that you have -- >> i came on to talk about what's going on in this convention and the fact that donald trump was nominated yesterday against all conventional wisdom to be the president of the united states, and the party is united and as we move forward tonight, we're going to have the vice-presidential nominee. i came on to talk about the things that the american people are excited about. i hope that you eventually can start focusing on those things too. >> we've been talking about it all morning long. no question what you're trying to do is working to a large degree. i'm giving an obvious

suggestion, which when i'm on the convention floor, we're there every night, people are saying hillary clinton, i can't trust her. i think she lies. donald trump won't lie to us. that's what this situation goes to. and as you know -- >> then -- >> why did the campaign handle it this way. you make it impossible to move on when you won't acknowledge we know to be true. i don't know you're blaming us for that. >> because you've spent seven minutes talking about something that's not relevant to anybody other than the american media. >> the truth isn't relevant to anybody about us? >> i'm telling you the truth ooch. i'm not a liar, contrary to what you just said. >> i'm not calling you a liar. >> you did call me a liar. >> the words not having come from michelle obama's speech because we both know they did. let's leave the issue where it is. both of us have been very clear about it. >> that's a good idea. >> the people can decide, i

guess. looking at tonight, no question it matters. we're here oh cover it. what are we going to hear from mike pence tonight that you believe cements the case, because in many ways, he is the last big speaker before the big man himself tomorrow night. >> well, actually he is the last big speaker, but the first one i would like to call your attention to is eric trump who will give a poignant presentation about growing up with his father and the kind of figure he has been in his son's life. you'll find that speech very moving. then governor pence is going to talk about really being introduced to the american people. a lot of people don't know him, even though he has had an active career in congress and governor in indiana. tonight, he gets to be front stage and talk about his record in washington and his record in indiana, and more importantly, why he believes donald trump should be the next president of the united states. we feel at the end of tonight, the american people and certainly the republicans, are

going to be very comforted by the fact that he was chosen by mr. trump, and we'll seen an example of decision-making process mr. trump goes through when he made the vice-presidential choice. it was the most important decision he could make up to this time and the process he undertook and the candidate are testament to the kind of things he'll be doing as president of the united states. >> no question, this decision really had an impact within the party. couple of surprises that maybe you want to help us out this morning. one, do you think ted cruz is going to use the language, i endorse donald trump, and do you think we'll see mr. trump again tonight in some shape or form? >> i think that senator cruz -- i have not seen his speech, so i can't tell you what he'll say. i think he'll be talking about the same kinds of issues he talked about in the primaries, and also, consistent with what mr. trump is talking about. i think you'll see at the end of the speech tonight that senator cruz will be part of the

campaign going forward, and in kpa f capacity, i'm not certain. his words are no doubt he wanteds donald trump to be the next president of the united states. >> paul manafort, thank you for coming back on "new day" to address what happened with the speech and the convention tonight and tomorrow. appreciate it. >> thank you, chris. all right, let's take a quick break here. no question republicans are trying to present a unified front at the convention, and no question that how this has been handled, this melania trump speech, has impacted what's going on at the convention. when we come back, we'll discuss. [suzette] when you have apartments to fill, strategy is mission-critical! i need a renter like this fellow.

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donald trump is officially the gop nominee for president. we don't have to say presumptive any more. does that mean the party is unifying behind him. many republicans say they are still not on board. here to discuss, wyoming senator, john barasso, he has

endorsed donald trump. thank you for being here. >> thank you, alisyn. >> a lot of excitement here in cleveland, but in terms of party unity, last night when mitch mcconnell walked on stage, the crowd booed him. that doesn't sound like party unity. >> we're united in getting a republican president into office who can focus on the things that the american people and cnn's search engine this morning is saying, people are concerned about. jobs, the economy, national security. that's what this election is really about. we are unified our platform is unified, our policies are unified. that's what the american people care about. >> does the booing representing there is still an establishment wing and then the trump wing and that those two never shall yet meet. >> we used to have a sports announcer innwyoming, we need a republican in the white house. we're looking at three or four

supreme court justices, we're working to make sure donald trump becomes the next president so we can put in place the kind of policies that will get the country moving again in a positive direction we need. two thirds of americans said the country is moving in the wrong direction. we need a fundamental shift. >> let me bounce this article off of you. they say there is a shadow convention happening outside of the cameras, not in the convention center. that somewhere else in sort of darkrooms, back rooms, and hotel suites about what happens in donald trump loses, and how to preserve congressional and senatorial seats. do you know anything? >> as you referred to as a shadow, i was here for three days as chairman of the platform committee, here since sunday, we are focused on maintaining the senate. maintaining the house. so we are a majority party that can put on the president's desk legislation that donald trump will sign, but we know hillary clinton would veto in terms of

go government regulations, in terms of taxes. all the things that make it easier to create jobs in america. we know donald trump will sign those, and hillary clinton will not. because national security isn't just about borders. it is about economic security, energy security, that's what people are concerned about at home. that's what i hear about in wyoming. >> how much of a role has donald trump had in crafting that platform. >> very little in trying to influence. i met with him twice leading up to the meeting. he said let the people come together and make the platform. we have 112 members, two from every state and the territories. we have 112 people. we did it on c-span, only to the public. the democratic platform has been written behind doors with 15 people with heavy liberal influence, by bernie sanders, that gets away from right to work. it raises taxes, makes it harder to use american red, white and blue energy and is really, it is

amazing how little it focusing on economic growth, which people care about, it focuses on economic redistribution. >> let's talk about this. interesting you raise bernie sanders. because there is reporting from cnn that at trump's urging, the gop formally endorsed breaking up america's big banks, and that was something that the republicans had not previously wanted to put in the platform. >> well, there are a couple of articles written about that. the platform was crafted by 112 people who interest there, lots of amendments, hundreds to the platform. there is obviously a populist tone, what has happened over the last four years. >> so you came around from a different position? >> the platform committee of 112 people, two from each state, came forth with basically the delegates worked their will without the influence of donald trump trying to steer the committee one way or the other. this represents the views and the values of the party. nobody agrees with every

specific plank of the platform. presidential candidates never adopt fully the platform. but this is a conservative platform. it represents focusing on the issues people are concerned about. this really is focused on jobs, the economy, security for the nation. >> we'll hear more about that tonight. >> we will. >> thank you so much for being on "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. moments ago, you heard the trump campaign manager, paul manafort, right here and he was continuing to deny any wrongdoing in melania trump's speech. what does his predecessor think about this. we're going to hear from corey lewandowski, next. ♪ kellogg's frosted mini-wheats® feed your inner kidult

moments ago, trump campaign chairman, paul manafort was on "new day" again, and once again, says there was no plagiarism presents in melania's speech. he also said a lot more. let's discuss. we'll bring in a good panel. we have jennifer granholm, she obviously supports hillary clinton. cnn political commentator, corey lewandowski, still receiving severance from the trump campaign, and he is the chair of the new hampshire delegation here at the republican convention. we also have our brother, cnn political analyst, david gregory, host of the david gregory podcast. corey, okay, you have come at me

plenty in the course of this campaign. tell me what we are doing wrong in this situation, and why it is okay for the trump campaign to deny what is obvious to my 10-year-old. >> i think what the trump campaign wants to talk about is the success of the convention. the fact that donald trump today is no longer the presumptive nominee. he is the republican nominee. >> beautiful. spin is great and that's the truth. however, you keep saying that this isn't plagiarized. nobody thought it was a big deal. nobody. i think even got scolded for saying it wasn't a big enough deal when it first started. but he won't admit it. the campaign won't admit it. that keeps it going. why is that not understood? >> i think, really, what i think this comes down to is making sure that the people who saw melania trump understand that her words were her words. she wrote the broad strokes of this speech, and she delivered them so eloquently, and so

greatly and it was a great way to be introduced to the american people. what i have said, the people who finalized and put the minor details into the speech should be held accountable. that's not melania trump. all we need to understand is the speech is done. it's time to manufactuove on fr and talk about donald trump as the republican nominee for president of the united states. >> not so fast. paul manafort was just on "new day" moments ago, and he has a different take, i think, than you do. which is basically it didn't happen. so listen to his interview with chris. >> the truth is the words, the truth is the feelings that were expressed by melania trump that night, which you don't want to focus on. it was the message she was communicating. that's the truth. that message -- >> of course i want to focus on it. we say she gave a good speech. >> then move on. >> the words were the same of michelle obama. i can't move on, because you keep lying about it, so i can't move on. >> i'm not lying about anything.

>> i have to talk about what is true. did the language, a portion of the language of that speech come from michelle obama's speech, yes or no? >> as far as we're concerned, there are similar words used. we've said that. but the feelings of those words and the commonality of those words, they ado not create an o that we agree with you. if you want to talk about it for the next six months, i've got other things i want to talk about. >> hey, listen, paul, i'm not here to beat you over the head. >> i don't know where to begin, governor. the commonality of those words may have been there, but that's your opinion. >> yeah, it is -- >> it sounds like is, not to rub salt into the wounds. >> it is an insult to everyday people watching this who see them side by side. corey, i appreciate what you were saying, because what you said basically was yeah, somebody has to take responsibility for this. somebody has to stand up. so there is an admission there, which we all see. chris, your point i think is

really valid. it is a proxy for the whole campaign, when they deny this. when they essentially lie about what happened. the proxy, again, which is evident last night in all these speeches, where there were all of these misstatements, lies, whatever, as confirmed by fact checkers, et cetera, that kind of thread does not work for them, when they're trying to prosecute a case like this against hillary clinton. >> but, and look, this is the part of the conversation that you don't like, governor, because david, that's their case and it is an effective case. did hillary clinton commit a felony with the e-mail? no, but did she lie, yes. there are lies, authorization, where it was, how many devices. so that's their case. it is a good case. but isn't it hurt when they're playing the same game. i keep pointing at you. as long as you get severance, i'm going to keep pointing. >> bottom line, paul manafort, who is a proxy for donald trump, is not leveling with you, has

not leveled with you on two interviews on two mornings, and not leveling with the american people. donald trump's big calling card is he tells the truth, he tells it like it is, he is not politically correct. and hillary clinton lies. well, the trump campaign does not level with the american people on small matters that have come up, whether he has made fun of people, whether there is plagiarism. it is a big deal if you're ja a journalist, or if you're college student. they're not leveling with people. they refuse to answer the question. you spent time with manafort where he just didn't answer the question. he wants to focus on what he wants to focus on. corey is making the same points, because he has a point of view about all of this. that's all fine. bottom line, is donald trump level leveling with the american people. the people who are watching this convention, making a decision with whether donald trump is qualified to be president, he

has the temperament to be president, and how he'll handle these kind of situations, if he is commander in chief of the united states military and president of the united states, you make judgments based on these moments. >> corey, explain how this works inside campaign. it seems the campaign deny, deny. it seems that's the m.o. in the campaign. why not just acknowledge it? why they didn't do that from the get go? >> look, i think what you have is you've got, you know, melania trump who came up with the thoughts with what she wanted to convey to the american people. she had a small team, different writers and brought them forth to her. >> great. >> that's my opinion. and then what happened, look, this was reince priebus said, he said it yesterday, somebody should be fired. the chairman of the gop, who has been a staunch advocate for donald trump, came out and made the claim first yesterday morning. >> so why does the campaign always deny? what's going on? >> they're not denying, but what this is about now is moving forward, okay. this is not going to make a difference. this is not going to change what

people are going to vote for. and look, i think melania trump will make an amazing first lady. she will do an amazing job. for the narrative to perpetuate, i think it is unfortunate for her because that's not what she did. >> instead of coming forward, whoopsy, daisy. >> this campaign was an insurgent campaign, trashing the committee, not working with the committee to make amend, and moved all of a sudden, you're going to get the nomination, and now there is sloppiness, making sure the spouse gives a clean speech. and that's the kind of thing that raises questions. >> which is another proxy for how you're going to govern. not just on the lie, but on the organization. how do you amass an organization and you can't do that with your campaign. >> hillary clinton was inside the government and took advantage of the government and

not being prosecuted. two sets of rules, one for the rich and powerful. that's not what happened in the trump administration. >> as long as you don't mess it up with how you run the campaign. >> we'll see you all tomorrow. "newsroom" with carol costello starts right now. and good morning. we're live from the republic national convention in cleveland, ohio. i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. donald, a night to showcasing their dad as the guy with the soft side. he locks in the nomination, and also in the spotlight, hillary clinton. republicans taking every opportunity to skewer the presumptive democratic nominee.