good evening. thanks for joining us. very busy night including late details in the mass shooting that leaves ten people dead in munich, germany including the apparent lone gunman. we begin with hillary clinton making the biggest decision since deciding to run for president, naming virginia senator and former governor tim kaine as her running mate. secretary clinton tweeting i'm thrilled to announce my running mate tim kaine, a man who's devoted his life to fighting for others. senator cory booker used fewer characters, tweeting kaine is abel. jeff zeleny joins us now. secretary clinton making her vp choice, former governor tim kaine, talk about him. what do we know about him? what's the appeal of him for secretary clinton? >> reporter: anderson, at the end of the day she was looking for a governing partner. she said that earlier this summer in one of her first interviews after her primary fight with bernie sanders. she didn't even consider bernie sanders. that was something that was discussed about at the time after their long primary fight, if she would have to sort of go

through the motions of that. in those early conversations they had, they both decided i'm told it would not be a good idea so she announced early on she was not considering him. she did consider a wide array of people but in many ways, her list was pretty small. she knew tim kaine was someone who she respected intellectually i'm told. he had been a governor. she liked his executive experience. do not discount the tight connections he has to virginia. the current governor of virginia, terry mcauliffe, very close to the clintons. he's very close to tim kaine. there was a comfort level there, i'm told. he is also somewhat of a moderate. he does not fit this liberal strain of the party but this is that early indicator of how she, if elected, would govern. she did not want someone whose liberal policies were sort of going up against her in the west wing but we just got a tweet from him actually, his first comments since he was picked. let's take a look at this. he said i just got off the phone with hillary. i'm honored to be her running mate.

can't wait to hit the trail tomorrow in miami. that is significant as well. making the announcement here in miami, not in his home state of virginia, is key that florida once again ground zero presidential politics, wants to make clear that diversity and other things will be front and center in this campaign. we talked a lot about how he's a spanish speaker. that's a stcentral part of his biography but not the only part. >> you have also been learning a lot of the details on how the decision was made, when it was made and when he was informed and others. >> reporter: it's interesting, he was just -- received a call tonight at 7:32 p.m. eastern time. he was in newport, rhode island at a fund-raiser for one of his fellow democrats in the senate and he got a call from her, finally giving him the nod. i saw him a couple days ago this week in virginia. he seemed confident, of course, he wouldn't talk about any of this because he's sworn to secrecy throughout this process,

but he did not know until this evening. this was kept so secret, it was an edict from the very top to keep this as tight-lipped as possible in part because of how donald trump's vice presidential search unfolded. the clinton campaign was watching that in astonishment. it also goes to the heart of who hillary clinton is. but i think it cannot be said enough, this is the first time she has truly chosen a partner of her own. she's been at her husband's side. this is someone that she has picked. now tomorrow when they come out here in miami, he will be her partner, certainly will look so much different than that 1992 image of the clintons and the gores here. she believes he is someone she wants to have around, she likes his company and she believes he will help electorally here. the reality is, this race is about the top of the ticket. hillary clinton and donald trump. we talk about the vps now but it's about clinton and trump. >> stay with us. want to bring in our chief political analyst, gloria borger and chief political

correspondent, dana bash. gloria, to jeff's point about she's obviously been in the white house before, she's seen how presidents and vice presidents interact. how much do you think that experience shaped her thinking on this? >> i think an awful lot. she knows when it works as it did with clinton and gore early on and she knows what happens when it doesn't work. and you know, i think that she understands that this is the person that when the door closes and every other adviser is gone, and this is the person who will give the president advice and the last piece of advice. and i think that's very important to her. look, she understands the downside of tim kaine. they both look like a bunch of insiders, in fact, that's what donald trump texted to contributors tonight, saying a bunch of insiders, obama, hillary and kaine, don't let obama have a third time.

she knows that was coming at her. she knows that a lot of progressives won't like him because of his position supporting nafta and supporting free trade agreements, and so that makes him unpopular but in the end, as jeff was saying, she understands this is a decision about if you are elected how you would govern and this is the person you have to live with every single day and in many ways, depend on every single day. >> dana, does it hurt clinton with sanders supporters? >> it certainly could. but clearly, the clinton team which is as you mentioned earlier, very data driven, believes that they have potentially bigger problem or maybe the flipside of that, a bigger prize in picking somebody like tim kaine, who is much more moderate as gloria talked about on issues like trade, even some social issues, but that could help her in reaching out to not just independents but

republicans who are disillusioned with the trump candidacy and are looking for somewhere else to go. so it's that, but there's also something that you can't underestimate which is the map. not only is he from virginia and very very popular there, which is an important state, that she wants to kind of obviously put in her corner. they are in florida, going to florida, having a big event there tomorrow. that is a crucial, crucial state. so with virginia and florida, the map is much, much harder for donald trump to win with other states, even with, you know, never mind ohio but pennsylvania and others, he would have to get a whole bunch of states that are kind of toss-ups in his corner. so there's the politics but also, the thing i think we need to keep in mind is that this is also hillary clinton doubling down on pick us, we can govern. we are a solid team, i'm sure she will say something along these lines. yes, they're insiders but the flipside of being an insider is somebody with experience and a

team with experience. that is her main message already against donald trump and this just kind of amplifies it. >> stay with us. want to bring back the rest of our political panel. christine, tara, scottie and alex. christine, you are a clinton supporter. happy with this choice? >> i'm very happy. i'm most happy with this choice because i really think it was hillary's choice. i think this is the person she wanted. >> the person she's most comfortable with. >> without a doubt. i think you can even see that when they're onstage together. she really looks like she's having fun. that's the most important thing. second, i'm very happy with the choice because he's somebody who has been there on the issues that i and so many democrats care deeply about. on gun control, on lgbt rights, on a woman's right to choose. he's someone who has always been in the right place and such a stark contrast to pence on the republican side, who has been in all of the wrong places. his voting record is perfect.

that's an important thing to hear a person say, that he has his personal opinion but he understands the distinction between your personal opinion and what the law should be that affects others. >> -- who say they wanted more of a sanders or warren, what do you say? >> there's been a lot of conversation throughout the whole primary season about will hillary get the bernie supporters. all of the polling shows that we have gotten almost all of the bernie supporters. and part of that was because in the platform process, secretary clinton and her campaign were very respectful, consulted with the senator, brought his people in and i have no doubt that we are going to come out of this campaign more united because the substance is there. >> alex, there are a lot of people when they hear a politician say this is about governing and this is the person who can step in, donald trump sort of mocked that answer, saying that's what politicians always say. do you think this really was about governing, or is this about politics? >> i think it's about both. i think in a lot of ways,

governing is the political message here, that if you are hillary clinton, clearly you have made the choice that you are never going to be able to get away from the fact that you are a career politician, a washington insider hosh er who in public life for 30 years. what you need to do with the vice presidential choice is try to persuade voters to see that experience differently, to see it as a reflection of seriousness and sobriety in government as opposed to being out of touch and insular. we will see whether he can deliver that message tomorrow. >> it's certainly something donald trump will harp on. >> exactly. we have already seen it's an outside establishment year. she picked somebody just like her. i have this real question about comfort. i can tell you as a trump supporter i'm very happy with the pick because i think this makes it a very easy argument to say why you need trump/pence. i was more concerned about cory booker who is very energetic or you look at julian castro.

he is hispanic. if that's the way you would try to get that vote -- >> he doesn't actually speak spanish. >> but he's actually hispanic. >> we kind of win on the diversity of the ticket thing. hillary clinton, first woman. >> it's more than that. it's all about, these are politicians, status quo politicians. more of the same. >> you are conservative, not a trump supporter. do you think it's too safe a choice? >> i think it remains to be seen because this election has become such a cult of personality election. and this discussion now, cory booker or julian castro, that was more of an entertainment pick because neither one of those are ready to be president of the united states. alex made the point this should be about governing. the people should make the decision on who they are voting for based on who best, is best

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that he delivers and that's why the announcement is going to happen in miami tomorrow. he was a jesuit missionary in honduras. he's fluent in spanish. and you will see that i'm sure on display tomorrow because florida's the great blocking state for hillary clinton. if donald trump can't dislodge her there, very unlikely he can win the presidency. >> dan, do you agree with that assessment? that virginia is only one part of the puzzle? >> yeah, i think virginia's only one part. politics is only one part. you need someone who crosses the threshold who will be an able campaigner, not make a mistake but ultimately you are picking someone that you are going to have to govern with for the next four to eight years. it has to be someone you like and trust. i think from everything i have read and seen, they have built a relationship. there's a lot of people who just don't buy that, who say come on, this is all about getting elected and the other stuff comes later. you really think that the secretary -- >> but -- >> go ahead. >> anderson, those people haven't worked in a white house.

hillary clinton has had the experience of having been in the white house for eight years when her husband was president, having been there as secretary of state and she understands how important that dynamic is between the vice president and the president, and i don't think she wants to saddle herself with someone who might be helpful for the next four months and unhelpful for the next four or eight years. one other thing that we should mention is as there are events overseas again. tim kaine not only has been a mayor of a very diverse city and governor of a swing state, but he also is a united states senator who serves on both the foreign relations committee and the armed services committee, and is very fluent in national security issues which is going to be increasingly important apparently in this election. >> dan, when donald trump picked governor pence as his running mate, do you think that gave secretary clinton an even bigger chance of picking senator kaine?

if he had picked newt gingrich, someone more an attack dog, that might have changed her thinking? >> it probably gave her more permission to do so in the sense mike pence versus tim kaine in a debate, it seems like a more natural thing than newt gingrich, for instance, who is a bomb thrower. but to go to your earlier question, i think this is a governing pick. i could make a better political case for cory booker, tom perez, sherrod brown, elizabeth warren than for tim kaine. i think he's a fine pick politically but i think she's clearly making a choice about who she wants to govern with and who she can trust. >> was there a need, some people perhaps wanted what they considered to be more exciting choice, i guess, elizabeth warren, maybe cory booker. i assume given the amount of data that the clinton campaign probably looks at, that they feel pretty good about the liberal side of the democratic party. >> yeah. i think that they have looked at

this every which way they can and should, and donald trump's going to take care of the excitement problem for hillary clinton. she doesn't need to do that with her vp pick. >> david, i got to ask about these leaked e-mails from the dnc, showing the dnc was sending e-mails, raising questions about bernie sanders' religion, trying to hope people would ask questions about that, to see how that would play in a state like kentucky and elsewhere. what do you make of that? seems like on the first look kind of plotting against bernie sanders. >> i'm sure it will go over very well with the sanders supporters. look, they already have put a big target on debbie wassermann schultz for this perceived tilt in favor of hillary clinton. what you hear from sanders supporters is yeah, they may not be happy with tim kaine but the thing they really want is

someone else to chair this democratic convention because they are so furious at what they see as bias on the part of the democratic national committee throughout this campaign, and this obviously is going to throw another log on the fire. >> the dnc just as with the gop, they are supposed to be remaining neutral until a candidate is selected. >> right. i think this is certainly unhelpful, particularly at a time when we have seen the sanders and clinton camps come together, bernie sanders endorsing, him responding to donald trump via twitter during that speech. so i think it's going to give more fodder for those who want to try to sow division. i think ultimately it won't make a huge bit of difference come november. >> thanks very much. one quick program note. tomorrow morning, wolf blitzer anchors hillary clinton, tim kaine's joint appearance. coverage begins at 11:30 a.m. up next, our other breaking story. an update on the mass shooting in munich. perhaps it is time we acquire a larger dwelling.

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today begins tomorrow in munich, germany with perhaps a sense of relief. there were early reports of as

many as three gunmen on the loose. turned out not to be true. it also turns out with heartache as what one gunman did at a mcdonald's and a mall was terrible enough. [ gun shots ] when the shooting was over, ten people were dead including the killer. joining us from munich, cnn's erin mcloughlin. what do we know about this killer? >> reporter: well, police have yet to release his name but what we do know is that he was 18 years old. he was a dual german and iranian citizen. they believe that he acted alone. he was not known to police, no prior criminal record. they also believe that in the end, he committed suicide. his body was found at around 8:00 local time, hours after the shooting not far away from the mall where he unleashed this horrific wave of terror. what police don't know at this

point is why he did this, what were his motives. that is what they are trying to establish as we speak, anderson. >> there was one witness who was on cnn who said that she heard him say allah akbar but there's this other videotape where he seemed basically mentally deranged talking about derogatory references to turkish people, saying he lived in ger mes germany in a turkish neighborhood, poor neighborhood. he has dual citizenship, germany and iran. what do we know about, are there any reports of links to a larger group? >> reporter: not at this point. that is something they are going to no doubt be looking very carefully at and as you just described, what ensued in the wake of this attack was just

extreme chaos. different reports, different eyewitness statements. initially eyewitnesses had told police there were up to three attackers and in that press conference, police say that they tracked down two individuals that they thought may have escaped from the scene via vehicle, and they were able to rule those individuals out at the end. we also know that there were these false reports of shootings elsewhere in munich. it really gives you a sense of the chaos and the panic that unfolded there. as i said, in that press conference, police say they do not know the motive of this attacker. they also do not know if he had planned this attack alone, though he acted alone is what they believe. >> what do we know about how it unfolded? we saw the video of him shooting outside the mcdonald's. there's also video of him on the roof of a parking garage. how did it unfold? >> reporter: well, in that press conference, police say that it began at a mcdonald's at around

5:50 p.m. local time. shots rang out, witnesses described fleeing the scene and then it moved inside the mall and that's where they say most of the casualties occurred. ten people dead, including the gunman. 21 individuals shot and injured. many critically, including children. they do not know at this point how he managed to escape, how he managed to get away. very much part of the investigation right now. >> erin, thanks very much. back with our terrorism and national security panel. paul, the fact the police said the man who killed himself in the shootings was the only gunman, does that make you believe it was something other than isis inspired and also the iranian background? >> yeah. and the fact that in the video from the roof, he appears to be mentally deranged, ranting about

all sorts of things and shooting erratically from the roof. the fact that he committed suicide apparently from a self-inflicted gunshot suggests he was not animated by jihadi ideology. there's a very strong prohibition in jihadi theology about taking one's own life. suicide bombings are allowed because that's seen as the byproduct of an attack but suicide not allowed. they feel they would go to hell rather than heaven if they committed suicide. that makes me think probably not a jihadi link here. also the fact you point out, he's iranian. most iranians are shia muslims. there have in germany, it has to be said, some shia iranians who have converted to sunni islam and gone off to pakistan and joined al qaeda but those have been very rare, those kind of cases. i think there was some thought earlier there might be some

right wing extremism link because of the five-year anniversary of the anders attack. the fact he's a german iranian national sort of takes us away from that hypothesis. >> that attack was in norway five years ago. bob, what stands out to you? >> exactly what paul said. i don't think this is a terrorist attack. the man was deranged. the shia community in germany is politically inactive. they have been for 30 years. none of it makes any sense. the fact there weren't multiple shooters, which originally suggested it was the islamic state, i think this man was just deranged. what i have to ask is where did he get the gun. very difficult to get in germany. it's very worrisome that there are so many arms floating around europe. did not used to be the case. whether these people are terrorists, lone wolves, whatever they are, the fact they have access to guns, it's very bad for europe.

>> how much do we know, german intelligence obviously, munich is one of the places a lot of refugees have come to. obviously munich last year for oktoberfest following refugees coming in from greece, ultimately from syria. how much of a handle do the intelligence forces, the military forces and police forces in germany have on who's in their country now? >> it's tough. i was in germany about a month ago and talked to some former friends of mine who are in the government and they were saying that each one of the states, the 16 states in germany, handle their immigrants and refugees differently. they have been handed a group of individuals by the federal government and said here's your refugees, take care of them. some of the states clump them all together in what we would call ghettos. others try and spread them out into the population. they don't have a very good deal for how they're meeting as groups and when they're doing. to go to what bob just said in terms of the weapons flow, a lot

of weapons are coming across from the former -- from the balkan states in terms of gun running and gun trade. it was one of the things i saw, not only human trafficking but arms trafficking in europe. what we were trying to do as u.s. forces in europe was help the government prevent that. all of these problems are things that the germans are facing within the last five to ten years. they are very challenging. the culture has changed in germany. the government is changing and the people's view of some of these things are certainly changing. you know, again, the other thing that i would suggest in this whole action was the reporting that took place. was there one shooter, was there three. one guy reported this guy yelled allah akbar which is something shia also proclaim. another said he said i'm a german. all of these things were very confusing and i'm sure really put the federal police and local police in a real flip as they were trying to deal with what's going on. >> time and again we have seen

these initial reports where often it says there's multiple shooters and a lot of times it's just eyewitnesses seeing the same thing but from different angles and getting confused. >> that's exactly right. eyewitness reporting especially in the middle of the situation is inherently unreliable because they are just seeing it from an individual viewpoint. in almost all these attacks, even orlando, remember, we thought in the first couple hours it was multiple shooters in the bar. so the situational awareness was very difficult for the german officials. i will say, however, this was a test run. it is likely not related to the international terrorism that this panel generally is on about but in terms of the response, trying to sort of fortify and evacuate the shopping mall, closing down mass transit which is absolutely important during any of these major or even individual incidents and i have to commend munich for its

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as if it weren't enough already, more breaking news tonight. the answer perhaps to the long-standing mystery of what happened to malaysia airlines flight 370. we are just getting this in. it centers on the captain and the flight simulation software he ran as a hobby. a forensic examination shows the captain used the program to fly essentially a suicide route. joining us is cnn aviation correspondent richard quest. first of all, where did this information come from? what are the key points and what do you make of it? >> well, first of all, when the malaysian authorities took away the flight simulator it was sent

to the fbi to decode it, because the fbi has special experience and knowledge. we have always known, there was this rumor out there that the fbi had found that he had practiced, the captain, that he had practiced flying suicide routes or routes down into the southern indian ocean. this rumor has been around for a long time, pretty much from the very get-go. however, the fbi denied and it could never stand up. now "new york" magazine has stood it up and they have seen the document that actually outlines the route that the captain flew, practicing, if you like, for what was going to happen just a month later. >> richard, we are showing onscreen what is the two routes. the yellow is the actual route that the plane took. the red is the simulated route

the captain practiced and you can see the similarities obviously, basically making that turn and then heading to a point where i guess it would run out of fuel in the ocean. >> and if you look at those two things, the only difference between the two is the initial departure toward beijing where it goes up and round. if you look at the route, it does go up, it goes round the tip of indonesia and then starts a long journey down to the southern indian ocean. what do i make of it? it is everything and it is nothing. it is the clearest circumstantial evidence that he was involved in stealing his own plane or hijacking his own plane and flying it on a suicide mission. but it does not prove it in any shape or form. it is purely the sort of circumstantial evidence that has built up over time.

with that in mind, what is very interesting is that they have known about this and they didn't release it. they never remarked on it. and they didn't even put it in their first report one year after the event. >> that raises all sorts of questions. they put out what was supposed to be sort of this definitive report one year after and there was no mention of this. >> not only was there no mention of this, they actually said that the captain handled pressure well, there was nothing happening in his personal life and that there was no reason to believe there was anything amiss. they actually in that report went the other way and gave him a clean bill of health when by then, they must have known there was this potentially circumstantial evidence which even if not linked, even if not directly connected, surely should have been mentioned.

so you're left with this very weird scenario where once again, the focus of attention is on the captain, a veteran captain, 16 years senior captain, but you're left wondering what does it tell us. the truth is it adds suspicion but no proof. >> i guess there's two other ways. one is if a pilot were in fact planning this, would he or she really need to simulate it, and also, if a pilot was planning this, would they really need to just fly that long and then run out as opposed to just bringing the plane down into the water? >> i can tell you what you have elegantly put your finger on is the subject of comment between myself and all other cnn aviation analysts that we are going backwards and forward saying what does it prove, if anything. look, he could have easily just got a map out and worked out where the plane would have been.

why do it -- and the other thing of course, as people are pointing out, he would have had to sit through the entire simulation unless he ran it fast forward. then there's the question of was it deleted from the simulator or was it merely overwritten. again, we come to this point. we have known the rumor of its existence. what we now seem to have and we will need confirmation from either the fbi or malaysians, there will be fat chance of that, i'm guessing, is that it is actually accurate and it is confirmed. that's the least families can expect at this stage. >> i suppose another scenario is that this is just a captain who had been flying for a long time who wanted to simulate a variety of different kinds of flights. i'm not sure this would be, if that's a viable explanation as well. >> it is. it is. when we were discussing this earlier amongst ourselves, miles o'brien pointed out when you're

using flight simulators, you do interesting things with them. you don't just sit them for seven hours on the cruise and blue sky. so i can see that particular angle as well. no, the truth is, this is a very interesting serious development that casts a shadow of suspicion over the captain and needs to be answered. unfortunately, it will not help us understand where the plane is. let me be absolutely clear about this. everybody knows roughly the place where it is. it's off the western coast of australia. this map that you're showing bears that out. the problem is we're still left with those satellite bits of data as to where to get it and there's one other development in the last 24 hours which has got slightly lost in all of this. the malaysians, the australians and the chinese have decided that they will suspend the

search operations after they have searched the current zone because they simply haven't got enough data to narrow it down anywhere else. >> richard quest, we will continue to follow this. up next, back to politics. what undecided voters thought of donald trump's message last night. ♪ mr. ingalls, he's not studying over here! he's streaming my games. you can't get away with that. woo! oh, don't worry about it. they can't hear me, i'm just in your head. (announcer vo) no matter how you use your data, verizon's got your back. now get 30% more data. no surprise overages. and keep the data you don't use. switch to verizon now and get up to $650 to cover your costs. only on america's best network. with fans clamoring for our next hit album, we return to our extravagant private studio, where we turn gold into platinum. yes, i am rich.

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>> the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon and i mean very soon come to an end. >> reporter: donald trump insisting he'll restores safety to a nation under siege. >> homicides had the largest increase in 25 years. in the president's hometown of chicago, more than 2,000 people have been the victim of shootings this year alone. >> reporter: "the washington post" analyzed crime data for 50

major cities and found that 770 more people were killed in 2015 than the year before, a 17% jump, the biggest since 1990. and more than 20,000 people hav been shot in chicago this year. so trump's first claim is true. but hold on. >> i think it is important just to be absolutely clear here, that some of the fears that were expressed throughout the week just don't jibe with the facts. >> reporter: in fact, fbi data shows even with the recent surge in homicides, violent crime overall started steadily falling in the mid 90s and has kept going down, dropping 15% between 2009 and 2014. the latest year with complete numbers. >> the fact of the matter is that the murder rate today, the violence rate today is far lower

than it was when ronald reagan was president. and lower than when i took office. >> reporter: the president's claim is also true. so -- >> how can the republicans make the argument that somehow it's more dangerous today when the facts don't back that up? >> people don't feel safe in their neighborhoods. i don't know what statistics you're talking about. >> the fbi statistics. >> the fbi is certainly suspect these days after what they did with hillary clinton. >> reporter: what about crime committed by undocumented immigrants? trump correctly notes illegal entries by family have spiked in year. and when they're caught -- >> they are being released by the tens of thousands into our communities with no regard to the impact or public safety or resources. >> reporter: but homeland security says that's just not happening, trump's claim is false. you can see the problem here.

each side in this case has some evidence to back its claims but if you don't think of it all at once, it's easy to get a false impression. the most we can accurately say is that violent crime in this country has been declining for quite some time and now it is moving up a bit. anderson? >> tom, thanks very much. about 32 million people watched last night. eight years ago john mccain earned the title with 7 million more. did donald trump earn new supporters? here's what randi kaye reported. >> i humbly accept your nomination for president of the united states. >> reporter: in the swing state of florida where every vote counts, these voters are still undecided. >> i thought it was great. but i was left with how are we going to accomplish all this. >> reporter: they gathered for donald trump's speech, hoping it would help them decide how to vote. for most of them, the speech

left them starting more. >> i think he needs to get more specific as he moves down the road for me to say i'll punch that ticket for donald trump. >> reporter: as one voters put it, trump sounded like a mr. fix it, even when it came to education and infrastructure. >> he started by saying he's going to create the largest tax cuts in history. then how are you going to pay for all that investment in education and infrastructure? >> reporter: and when trump said this -- >> i am the law and order candidate -- >> reporter: it was a turnoff for some. why does that scare you? >> because it sounds like police state. how are you going to enforce this? military state? curfews? what are you talking about? that did scare me. >> reporter: but that voter did like trump's tough talk on law and order. >> i carry a gun everywhere. i never worried about minorities and police violence.

i don't think we have to worry about a police state from donald trump. >> reporter: unlike critics, this group didn't find trump's speech scary or doom and gloom. they took comfort in his promise to keep people safe. >> ask any service member out there i mean, it's devastating. >> reporter: he did seem to stick to the themes that have worked for him. >> right. >> reporter: did that work for all of you? >> not for me. >> i alone can fix it. >> reporter: lacking is a sense of donald trump's upbringing, more personal stories and his softer side, though one voter did see a twinkle of modesty. you say you saw humility in this speech. how so? >> talking about his children and his pride in them. that was refreshing. >> reporter: and most felt they could picture president trump in the oval office.

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those close to the campaign say he got two presidents' approval. jeff, i'm going to start with you on this friday evening because you got the scoop. tell us how the