♪ to the couch where you at? ♪ ♪ show me the latest medal count♪ ♪xfinity's where it's at. ♪ welcome to it all. comcast nbcuniversal is proud to bring you coverage of the rio olympic games. this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you from the university and around the world, i'm fareed zakaria. we will tackle this week's main event, the democratic national cnational -- republican national convention in cleveland. we have a panel of political pundits to tell us whether they succeeded. >> i humbly accept your nomination for the presidency of the united states.

>> then we will make you inside russia's doping deception. how in the world did they do it? how did they fool the world? fascinating story. also, the terrible violence of recent weeks reminds us yet again of the fraught relationship between african-americans and the criminal justice system. civil rights lawyer brian stevenson says that problems will continue until the nation addresses the root cause. >> we made up this ideology of white supremacy in america, and we haven't confronted it. but first, here's my take. donald trump set a reported on thursday for the longest speech delivered by the nominee at a convention in decades. if one were able to go back and measure the decibel levels from the past, i'm sure he would win that prize as well. >> we are going to build a great

border wall. >> the speech was screamed more than spoken, but the media matched the message. trump painted a picture of america that was darker than candidate in modern memory. there's been paralegals drawn to nixon's speech at the 1978 republican convention, but that was sunny by comparison, can you imagine nixon saying this? >> open cities, open hearts, open minds. >> or this. >> let us increase the wealth of america so we can provide more generously for the needy and all those who cannot support themselves. >> and it was a time of national crisis. the soviet union and the united states were locked in a cold war, proxy wars between the two

superpowers were ongoing around the world. the united states had half a million troops in vietnam, with half a mitwo of the countries m respected leaders, robert kennedy and martin luther king jr. had been assassinated, the latter producing race riots in more than 100 american cities, crime was rising dramatically. the united states has emerged from the great recession of 2009 better than any of the world's major economies. it has produced more than 14 million jobs since 2010. more than the 35 other advanced economies combined as polifact has noticed. when obama took office, 9.6 million on an annualized basis, last month they reached 16.6 million. over the last eight years,

america has become the world's largest producer of oil and natural gas, overtaking russia and saudi arabia. and unemployment is now below 5%. let me try to present the broader trends to you. if you're terrified by the massive rise in terrorism you hear about, here is the chart detailing mass killings and again know sites. we have data on civilians killed since 1 1988. on the decline in homicide in america and in the world. on the victimization of children, a huge drop. on the decline of rape in

america. and the net migration from mexico to america since the great recession has been zero. yes, zero. i know that fed on a diet of hype, hysteria and relentless attacks, it dpuoesn't feel this way, but that doesn't make it true, facts are facts. there is no golden age to go back to. what does america want do return to? the 1950s when tax rates were -- the 1960s when the country was consumed by war and crises. the 1970s with stagflation robbed the american -- a country of openness, diversity, tolerance and innovation, of

course it has problems as do all countries, of course it can be greater still, but not if it succumbs to anger, division, hate and despair. let's get started. well, you've heard my take and let us bring in four dished conservative intellectuals to offer their takes, david frohm was a speechwriter, bet stevens is a pulitzer prize winner columnist and an economic adviser to the trump campaign and a distinguished fellow at the heritage foundation.

let me start with you, you are a solid conservative, but you have written critically about trump, what did you see at the convention and did it change your mind? >> i felt like i was watching a monti python skit. there was more comedy and demagoguery, in which i felt more alienated from the republican party than i ever have in my life, most of all by mr. trump's relentlessly negative appeals to fear and loathing in his address on thursday night. i cannot remember a more consistently hate filled speech of any, never mind the republican party, any major presidential address, this sounded like richard nixon without the charm and self es facement. >> steven, you're advising

trump, and i was wondering what you made of trump's relentless attack on fair trade, did that make you rethink your support for donald trump? >> no, let me make a broader point first, which is i think the reason the trump speech was so effective is that what trump had to do was basically convince the american people that he could be president, that he was presidential. and notwithstanding what brett just said, i thought he came across as a commanding presence, who could play the role of president, just as ronald reagan did in 1980, the hollywood actor, he sort of showed the american people, i can do this job, that's one of the reasons that the polls showed that it was overwhelmingly approved of, that speech. you mentioned the one area where

i disagree with donald trump, i'm a free trader, and i'm uneasy with what he's saying about free trade. but renegotiating some of the trade deals so they're more on the interests of americans and forcing china to play by the rules and stop cheating and stealing from us, i think that's something as a free market guy i can support. >> danichb yel danielle, you sa before the speech, he side some things about nato that worried you, did he come across as a commander in chief for you? >> unfortunately, he came across as the commander in chief of russia. in the interview he gave on wednesday to the "new york times" was so troubling, for many of us who care about national security, and who care intensely about our allies and the countries that we saved from soviet domination, that we took into our embrace in nato, what donald trump said about not

being willing to protect our nato, our treaty allies was just down right frightening. and the fact that someone like paul manafort, his advisor who has been in the pocket of putin and putin cronies could affect the republican platform in that way is just totally troubling to anybody who believes in a democracy. >> david frumm, what about the people who weren't there, i've five former nominees of the republican party, in 1993, where robert dole was there, most conservative intellectuals, apparent from this panel still oppose trump, does that matter? is this the new republican party? >> the governor of ohio was not there. i think a lot of politicians sense a catastrophe to come, and they're right of course about that, and the task ahead is to

work backwards from where we need to be after -- how to appeal to republican elected officials is to say how to you prevent the coming wreck of donald trump's candidacy from being the wreck of the republican party. he's going the lose, the question is how do we make sure he doesn't drag better men, better women down after him. >> i will ask if donald trump will lose and about the democrats next week. we'll be back. ♪ ♪

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>> we are back with david, danielle, and steve. i wanted to pick up on something you were talking about, what does the new republican party look like? because at the end of the day, you might not like it, the core of trump's message is about stopping trade, stopping immigrati immigration, the things that got the weakest response at the convention was paul ryan's message of deregulation, tax cuts, even when donald trump talked about tax cuts, very little applause for that, what you have out there are these voters who are protectionists, global -- >> what you saw this week in cleveland, was the passing of the baton from the bush era, to a new trump era, and it will be a new party with a new message.

yes, we are going to require nato countries to pay for their own defense, i have no problem with that, we're running trillion dollar deficits, why can't germany and france pay their own. we're going the have the biggest tax cut since ronald reagan, we're going to repeal obama care and replace it with a choice based health care system, much like what the american enterprise institute has argued for, we're going to deregulate the economy, we're going to have a pro regulation policy, those are big ideas that will appeal to middle class working class folks all over the country, and i would simply say to my friend david frumm, i'll bet you that you're wrong on this, trump is going to win this election, because he's going to win in pennsylvania and ohio and michigan and iowa and wisconsin, those kind of blue collar

industrial states where republicans haven't done very well in the last 20 or 30 years. >> david, are steven's ideas conservative enough for you? >> i am probably the least conservative member of this panel, i have long urged the republican party to make peace on health care, for a more cautious approach on immigration. the problem is that it can't be advocated by a person who is as reckless and divisive as donald trump and who is going to repel so much of the traditional republican party, not everyone in america is an unemployed steelworker, this is not a country of catastrophe, this is a country of growth, we all carry computers in our pockets with access to all the world's knowledge. we don't want to be republican -- and say everyone who thinks we're living in a mad max post apocalyptic health

state, how do you build an enterprise with people who don't believe in enterprise? >> what do you think the democrats thought watching this convention? >> trump set up hillary clinton favorly. and suggested that somehow this was going to be with a rebirth, let me tell you, in 1980, ronald reagan talked about morning in america, he brought a message of hope and optimism, of belief in the american people, a set of principles, american global leadership, last night was bleak and dark, people analogized it to the dark night in batman, i think it was a perfect analogy. what hillary clinton needs to do next week is she needs to be positive. she needs to be hopeful. i'm not going to vote for him and i'm not going to vote for her either. but she needs to -- looking at

their last days of greatness and an america in which he can confidence we can grow again, we can have a baerl economy and people who lost their jobs actually can be offered a lifeline and hope. >> brett, would you counsel hillary clinton to do that or would you say do the 1964 campaign that is, when linden johnson painted goldwater as just too dangerous to become president? >> i think hillary should be a place for people who are in the center and who are afraid of trump. she should present herself as a dignified thoughtful candidate who's going to turn the democratic party into a party of inclusion, and a party that apea apales to the center. those who think donald trump is an empty vessel in which you will pour the sweet wine of deregulation and the paul ryan

agenda, i think you're fooling yourselves in a very dangerous way, donald trump hoas been a protectionist for a long time, he's been an isolationist for a long time. the american first theme in foreign policy is not new. and the record damage this will do to every single republican who has aligned himself prominently with trump i think will last for the rest of their careers after november. >> steven, i have to give you the last word, briefly, because you're outnumbered three to one. >> look, i think that -- look, the country is in bad shape right now, i just disagree with the rest of my colleagues. i mean we have got police being murdered on the streets of our major cities, we got murder rates in my home city of chicago, that are just atrocious, we have got an economy that is not working creating good jobs, we have got terrorism here and around the world, yeah, it was a bit bleak,

but you know what, for a lot of americans, it's a bleak situation in this country, what trump's going to do next is say i've got real solutions that are going to bring morning to america. stand by guys, because we're going to present that in the weeks ahead. >> we will all stand by. fascinating, fascinating conversation. thank you. when we come back, the fascinating inside story of the russian doping scandal. you don't want to miss this. ♪

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the world anti-doping agency commissioned an investigation last into allegations of widespread doping in russia. and that investigation wound up accusing the country of government ordered cheating, of a government run doping program focused on track and field athletes and it named the director of russia's national anti-doping laboratory as a key figure in that scheme. he did not really cooperation with that inquiry and after he was accused, he fled to the united states to los angeles and months later, this past may, we spoke with him for the first time, he has not spoken since nor had he spoken prior to that. >> and what he describes is really an extraordinary thorough account. take us through it. he would get lists around midnight every day, this was in sochi in the laboratory where they were meant to be testing

for doping. >> exactly, he detailed schemes that dated back years and he said that when russia was hosting the 2014 winter games in sochi, the country saw it as an opportunity, he said to control the lab and the results and to dope throughout competition. and so he said russia's top olympians, their medal contenders were on this mixture of steroids throughout sochi, he said he received spreadsheets from the sports ministry, that detailed who was on the doping program, when their competition dates were going to be, informing when exactly he needed to swap out their steroid laced urine for clean urine, and it was an elaborate scheme in which, he said every night he would receive a text message with a list of athletes names and the seven digit code that contin corresponded with the urine

sample they delivered that day, which was supposed to be n anonymo anonymous. >> he would be sure to leave the light on in his office to give the impression he was still working, he would go to room 125, changing out of his lab coat into a national team sweatshirt, he said, and he would there work for hours with the help of russia's intelligence service, through a hand sized hole in the wall, which he provided us pictures of and which subsequent investigation probing hiss accou account that we confirmed existence of, would pass bottles which were thought to be tamper proof. they have been used at the olympics since the year 2000, since the sidney olympic. and whenever the bottle is opened, the cap is supposed to have been broken and show signs

of tampering. >> and yet in these ones, it didn't. >> he said with the help of russia's intelligence service, he broke into these bottles reliably every night and was able to sir sir repetitiously clean and that your richb had been stocked piles in the months leading up to sochi. >> just to be clear, this entire doping program was being done by the head of rush shoosiarussi g anti-doping. >> additionally, he site he was acting at the behest of the sports ministry, what the lab director said yes, i was a key executor of this scheme, but i was very much acting on direct orders from the government to win at any cost. >> fascinating. thank you so much. >> thank you.

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mercy" brian stevenson is the founder of the equal justice initiative and a law professor at nyu. he's won a mccarther genous grant. >> you decide to get involved in the case of a guy, walter ma mcmillan and who was on death row when you met him, in a town that ironically was the town that is supposed to be the place where "to kill a mockingbird" was set. >> that's right. i think it was that disconnect that really got my attention. when i finished law school i was shocked to know that there were people on death row literally dying for legal assistance, we don't provide lawyers to even condemned prisoners, i met

walter mcmillan in the very community. they were completely indifferent to the plight of a black man, wrongly accused of killing a young white woman. the jury returned a verdict of life, but elected judges in alabama have the authority to override jury verdicts of life and impose the death penalty. so the judge whose name was robert e. lee key overrode the life in prison and imposed the death penalty. and it was a challenging case, because he was in a different place when the murder occurred. i think what we have done in this country with mass incarceration, with excessive punishment is not just incarcerate a lot of people,

convict a lot of people, condemn a lot of people, but we have marginalized whole communities we have condemned whole communities, we fought for six years to win his freedom, ultimately the evidence came forward and he walked out free. >> and you point out in 1972, american incarceration rates compared to other countries, it looks pretty normal. and then it just skyrockets. >> throughout most of the 1970s, our level of incarceration was relatively steady, we incarcerated 100,000 to 200,000 people. when when this war on drugs kicked in, we see an era that has defined us as a society that is the most punitive in human history. we now have the highest amount of incarceration in the world. we went from 300,000 people in jails and prisons.

we have 5% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's impolice sonned. 70 million americans with criminal arrests. >> and the racial component of this is real. >> the race statistics are the most disparaging, one in three black male babies born in this county is expected to go to jail or prison, the statistic for latino boys is one in six. and that's a shameful realty that was not during the 20th century. >> so when we look at the videos that we have all seen in the last year of police officers seemingly entirely unjustifiably shooting, killing, arresting young black men, you're not surprised? >> no, i think there is a narrative of racial difference in this country that we have never confronted. i think we live with a kind of smog in the air, our history of racial inequality is a kind of

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that were abducted. and the german government wants you to go to auschwitz and others and reflect on that history. and because of that, we have a different relationship than we would have had if they refused to own up to it. there's not a single place in this country where you can have an honest conversation about the legacy of slavery. we have this landscape that is littered with the iconography of the confederacy which we row manlt sized. in my state they celebrate jefferson davis's birthday as a state holiday. we don't even have martin luther king day, we have robert e. lee day. >> brian stevenson, good to have you on. >> thank you very much.

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live at home or on the go. next week in philadelphia, the democratic party will make it official. hillary rodham clinton will become the nominee. it's the shattering of perhaps the tallest glass ceiling in the world. does that mean that gender bias is a thing of the past? a the results are fascinating

and eye opening, listen in. pleasure to have you on. so first explain what we're trying to understand is, the nature of gender bias, that is -- and to people who aren't aware or unsure that it exists, there's lots of data that suggest there's still a great deal of unconscious gender bias in the workplace. >> seeing really is believing, and if you don't see male kindergarten teachers, or woman ceos, that's where bias comes from. it does affect how we hire and evaluate job candidates, how we think about promotions, how we assign jobs, in all of those areas it can matter. >> you focus really on the solution. so one of the examples you give is that google found they were

losing a lot of women, and they decided to investigate further. what did they find? >> so i think google is really exemplary in its use of data, and that is the first important message. and that is that we have to data inform our thinking, our decision making, our judgments and learn from them. so google did was kind of understand, why were these women leaving, and they learned it wasn't women per se, it was primarily young mothers who were leaving. so they increased not just leave for mothers, but also parental leave and that took care of the problem and women are now no more likely than men to leave. >> now when trying to understand gender bias, you talk about auditioning for orchestras, which seem to be a very simple test. but you said you could find gender bias there and there is a solution. >> in the '7

0s, many more kes tras realized that only had 5% women. they introduced screens and they at auditions behind the screen, it turns out that dramatically decreased female musicians. we now have 40% of female musicians. >> and so people played behind a black curtain so you couldn't tell whether the person behind the curtain was black, white or interracial. >> we even asked them to remove their shoes, so we couldn't see them entering the room. there's even tools now technology that allows organizations like yours and mine to blind themselves to the demographics of the job qualifications and that increases dramatically the representation of the

underrepresented groups. >> you say there's data that suggests that women are more risk averse than men. what does that mean and what is the fix? because that tends to mean that they're less like think to succeed because they're not going to take as many risks. >> it turns out in terms of willingness to take risks, we literally have hundreds of studies suggesting that men are more willing to take risky bets and women are less likely to do so. >> so if you want to design an organization where you're taking the best, making the best use of men and women in various kinds of jobs, what would you do? >> i think that's exactly the approach you have to take, you have to benefit from 100% of the talent pool and we think how we advertise and how we evaluate and promote people. and that actually starts with job advertisements, we should

take a very close look at the language that we use to describe the jobs. imagine a school looking for a new teacher, many schools then use words such as collaboration or support or empathy and warmth, which normally are associated with women. and research shows that this will actually increase the likelihood that women apply and decrease the likelihood that men apply. >> and if you were to try to get engineers, what is the job -- what would the words that are usually used in advertising? >> they are typically words that we associate with men. that include competitiveness, they include risk taking, they include leadership, assertiveness, so yes, exactly, the same is true for typically male jobs, we should use for neutral language to be inclusive of women who might consider applying for this job. >> do you think women are more likely to be attracted to jobs that talk about warmth and collaboration and empathy and

men are more interested in jobs that talk about leadership and getting ahead. is this just how men and women think and let's try to get the biases out? >> i think we'll never have the answer to that question, we never know what part is nurture and what part is nature. there's certainly evidence that suggest that gender plays a very important role. when we compare scandinavian countri countries, they're not gone, but they're less prevalence. >> through these simple fixes you can achieve a more equal and productive environment in the workplace. >> and that's what i hope my data is proving, in fact.

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britain's new prime minister met with angela merkel, germany's chancellor, there are now a chance as of january 20, 2017, three of the world's most important democracies will have female heads of government. in which country has a woman been head of government the longest over the past half season try? stay tuned and we'll tell you the exact answer. this week's book was an old favorite that i was reminded of last week, if you want more of that history read gore vidal's "burr." it's a clever iconic account

with devastating portraits of washington, jefferson and of course hamilton. it's fiction, but based on careful research. now for the last look, being a police officer can be stressful. and the recent murders of officers in dallas and baton rouge have surely ratcheted up the anxiety even more. being on the beat can lead to misguided decisions, but there will be a way to help prevent police work from leading to tragedy. meditation, today police officers are meditating en masse at a buddhist temple. it might seem like a strange idea, but encouraging cops to find their center is gaining traction in police forces from madison, wisconsin to manchester england. mindfulness and medication could help reduce needless police aggression, advocates say,

because they can help cops to regulate their emotions and better respond to stress. a pilot study just outside portland, oregon conducted by pacific university found that officers participating in a mindfulness and medication program showed significant improvement in emotional regulation and mental health. when we're talking about a community that wants to be treated fairly and unbiassedly, program founder sold the oregonian, mindfulness is the path to get there, maybe the most effective tools for police might not be a baton or a gun, but a home of zen. the correct answer to the gps challenge answer is d, a woman has been the head of government in bangladesh for the last 15 years. the current prime minister is sheikh husseina.

overall the report points out that 50% of countries have yet to elect a female head of state. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week, i will see you next week. good morning from philadelphia, i'm brian stelter, and this is "reliable sources," our weekly look at the story behind the story, how news and pop culture get made. we are live here on the floor of the wells fargo center where the democratic national convention will begin tomorrow. we're going to start on that topic because we have some breaking news of exactly how this convention is going to go forward. as of yesterday, debby wasserman schulz will not be gaveling in and out the