huge thunderstorms here. also, thunder of the political variety, a seismic shift in the race for the white house. don't laugh at me, david gregory. you're not even on yet. donald trump getting a bounce from the republican national convention. want to take a look at the numbers? >> let's do it. they're just released. these are the new cnn/orc national poll. trump is now ahead of hillary clinton by five points in this four-way race when you count the other candidates. this is his largest lead in nearly a year. >> sure, he has not been up in a while. let's take a look at the two-way race. trump still has a lead, three points over clinton. now, let's take a look into these numbers. we have a great panel for you, but there's certainly bad news right off the top. 68% of registered voters feel clinton is not honest and trustworthy. the convention here in philadelphia already overshadowed on that score by wikileaks, these e-mails that

came out that do seem to show a bias against bernie sanders. >> we have every angle covered. let's going with our senior political reporter manu raju. >> reporter: hey, alisyn. the fire storm behind debbie wasserman schultz, the democratic national committee chairwoman, is only intensifying. she's scheduled to speak before the florida delegation later this morning and here in this convention hall. how she'll be received by bernie sanders supporters is an open question. but the democrats had hoped this convention would start off without a hitch. what we have seen is that there's a bit of drama. >> i'm with her! i'm with her! >> reporter: democratic national committee chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz forced to resign amid a massive e-mail leak, showing dnc staffers favoring hillary clinton over bernie sanders during the democratic primary. more than 1,000 sanders

supporters marching in philadelphia in protest. sanders himself, who has been calling for wasserman schultz's resignation for months, telling cnn he's not surprised that the dnc was working against him. >> it is an outrage and it's sad that you would have people in important positions in the dnc trying to undermine my campaign. >> reporter: clinton's campaign manager pointing his finger at russian hackers, suggesting they had a hand in the leaks. >> experts are now saying that the russians are releasing these e-mails for the purpose of actually helping donald trump. >> reporter: trump's campaign chairman flatly denying the suggestion. >> it's just absurd. i don't know what you're talking about. it's crazy. >> reporter: on capitol hill, wasserman shuchultz had few defenders. harry reid was pushing for weeks to replace her, including at one

point floating his number two, dick durbin, as a replacement. the interim chair will now be donna brazill, al gore's former campaign manager and a cnn political analyst. brazill, who has tied with both clinton and sanders, warned that friday's leak may just be the tip of the iceberg. >> more e-mails are coming. i don't know the substance, but i know there are lots of stuff we might have to apologize for. >> reporter: trump quick to pounce on the political turmoil, posting this tweet. the democrats are in a total meltdown, but the biased media will say how great they are doing. e-mails say the rigged system is alive and well. this scandal threatening to shatter the uneasy truce between sanders' progressive base and the party establishment ahead of today's convention themed united together, where bernie sanders, liz belt warren, and michelle obama will headline the first night.

the controversy also overshadowing clinton's big introduction of her vice presidential pick, virginia senator tim kaine. the newly minted democratic ticket sitting down for their first interview together, keeping their focus squarely on the republicans. >> i don't know what their convention was about other than criticizing me. i seem to be the only unifying theme that they had. >> reporter: kaine showing he's ready to defend his running mate on the campaign trail. >> when i see this, you know, crooked hillary or see the lock her up, it's just ridiculous. it is ridiculous. and look, most of us stopped the name calling thing about fifth grade. >> reporter: now, this week former new york city mayor and independent michael bloomberg is set to endorse and give a speech here in this convention hall behind hillary clinton, all part of an effort to reach out to those moderate and independent and swing voters now that polls show she's losing this race to

donald trump. alisyn? >> okay, manu. thanks so much for all of that. joining us now to discuss all of this is our panel, cnn political analyst and host of the david gregory show pod cast, david gregory. senior editor for "the atlantic," ron brownstein, and meave reston. our new cnn poll just out shows what happened after the republican national convention to donald trump's numbers and hillary clinton's numbers. let me put up for our viewers one more time the two-way race. this shows the bounce he got. he got six points out of that republican national convention. he's now at 48% to her 45%. she went down four points. what else do you see, ron? >> it's a good poll for donald trump overall, especially because of that number of 48. he's had trouble getting above 42, 43 in any national polling

since mid-may. i believe this is the largest number he's had in his camp in any serious national poll. so overall, it's a good poll. it's a bad poll for hillary clinton in the sense they succeeded in driving some negatives about her. two things worth noting. you can be ahead after your own convention and lose. there's no guarantee. you should be ahead after your own convention. >> and historically you are ahead. >> and there's one big red flag in here, and chris is going to smile at me. even within this poll, which is a very good poll for trump t shows the bottom dropping out for clinton with the blue-collar whites, but it showings hs her g among college educated voters. no democrat in the history of polling going back to 1952 has ever won college educated white voters. if she does in the end, it is very hard for him to make the electoral college math add up. >> this poll is amazing. we've already forgotten all of the drama of the republican

convention in those first three days when everyone was saying it was a dumpster fire with putting down the delegate revolt an people screaming on the floor and ted cruz and the plagiarism thing. then donald trump came in, introduced by ivanka, obviously, with a very positive speech that clearly has helped with independents, and even though he laid out this dark and stormy vision, clearly that is working with some people. in our new poll, you see his numbers. he's increasing his edge among independents. it's going to be a very -- >> a big bump with blue-collar workers also. >> that was a big bump. >> couple points. first of all, i remember the drama i wrote about in my journal. the hillary negative numbers, you know, i think a big strategy for donald trump is to drive her negatives, of course, but it's also to suppress her support. i think such a huge challenge going into this convention for

her is that she cannot take for granted this obama coalition, as tight as she holds on to him from 2008 and 2012. i think that's why party unity is so important. you know, still something we have to see. the other piece about this is that we see relative parody. i think the clinton campaign certainly wants to come out of here establishing some distance from trump by defining him and reckless, as risky, that she can hold throughout the rest of the time this law and order theme and all that has the potential to really split the country in two. >> that's the thing. you look at this poll, and look, we're only at halftime. we're going to get another poll after the democratic convention and several weeks after that before you have a real sense of where the race is. all the indications are that ult f -- all the fissures we have in american politics, particularly because of trump, he pushes in

both directions. >> i think that's all true. that's why i call you the professor. however, there is this parallel competition going on as well, which is him being dangerous and unqualified versus 68% of the people polled, registered likely voters, saying she's not honest and trustworthy. have any of us ever seen a number that high before? i mean, in politics and people who are contending to be president. >> august 1974. >> he was already in. >> that is a very high number. >> but i mean, if you -- and it's just amazing that continuing to talk to clinton voters out there. i mean, they're going to vote for her, but they're still bringing up the trust and integrity issues. the campaign has not been able to do anything to change that. i don't know at this late in the game how you do that.

>> but they're both running campaigns tearing it down the other side, making it a choice. her test this week, can she possibly putting to some kind of biography that's new for people who have not made a judgment about her. it's so baked into her persona. >> so what do you do? >> let's look at the four-way race. let's look at this. this also seems to benefit donald trump. look at these numbers. trump had 37. afterwards, 44. before, clinton had 42. afterwards, 39. look what happened to gary johnson. he went from 13% to 9% and jill stein from 5 to 3. >> a 12-point protest vote right now in this polling with unpredictable results may be, according to this, helping trump a little bit. definitely something to worry about. >> i think also at this juncture in the race, i think those numbers for both stein and johnson will rebound because

we're at a point in the race where we're much more focused on trump and clinton. people are giving them kind of a second look. i think we will continue to have this protest vote debate all the way through the fall. >> they're siphoning votes from hillary clinton. >> well, i think gary johnson particularly has been stronger among young people, which is a problem for clinton. that's a core part of the obama coalition. the other thing is in the long run, i think the larger the protest vote, the better the chances for trump. this poll has him at 48. this is immediately after the convention. he did expand his support. it's tough for donald trump to get to 50. the lower the number you need to win, the better i think his chances of getting there. >> which is all about suppressing votes for her. >> if these college suburban republicans are just so depressed by him and they don't come out and vote, then it doesn't really -- it changes the math for him. if you pump up the blue-collar vote, he's in good position. >> you look at this vote, you're

looking at a 35-point lead among noncollege whites. you have a competitive candidate in donald trump across the entire rust belt. but again, that problem with the college whites combined with his difficulty among minorities, you'd have a hillary clinton counting on virginia, north carolina, florida, colorado, nevada. we could see a very inverted electoral college kind of strategy. if this poll holds up, donald trump is a very formidable rust belt candidate. >> his brain is just a calculator. amazing. >> it should say texas instruments. >> doesn't it suggest all the things that pundits focused on last week, there's chaos, there's plagiarism, voters don't look at that sort of thing. and maybe his speech about how scary these times are is the thing they most took away. >> i think it definitely is the thing they most took away from

the convention and just talking to voters over the last couple days, clearly they were remembering thursday night as opposed to everything that had happened earlier in the week. but we're now going into the democrats' convention. all of that will be churned up again. so it will be really interesting to see the polls afterward. >> some of the voters we've been talking about in the suburbs, it doesn't mean they don't hold on to it, but still revealing numbers. >> but it also goes on an assumption that chaos is bad for you in politics. we don't know that to be true anymore when it comes to donald trump. that convention was chaotic, and it seemed to work for him. it seems to be something he cultivates. >> that speech overwhelms everything else. the nominee's speech is more than 50%. >> then they said that. to their credit, they said that thursday night they were going to be able to clean it up and move on. that's what happened. >> panel, thank you very much. great to have you here. >> donald trump, for his part, digging in his heels on his signature and controversial idea, the proposed ban on

muslims entering the u.s. he says oh, no, no, it's not about muslims, it's about everybody in compromised countries. so let's get to cnn's jason carroll following the trump campaign for us. he's live in roanoke, virginia. what is he saying now, my friend? >> reporter: well, a couple things. first of all, it's very clear why donald trump is here in virginia. it's tim kaine's home state. also very clear he's not backing down on some of those controversial statements he's made about nato and that ban on muslims. >> extreme vetting. if a person can't prove what they have to be able to prove, they're not coming into this country. >> reporter: donald trump offering new clarification on his ever-evolving immigration stance, moving away from the blanket muslim ban he proposed this past december. >> calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims

entering the united states. >> reporter: to omitting the word muslim entirely during his speech at the republican national convention. >> we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism. >> reporter: trump now insisting he's not pulling back on the ban. >> i actually don't think it's a pullback. in fact, you could say it's an expansion. people were so upset when i used the word muslim. remember this -- and i'm okay with that because i'm talking territory instead of muslim. >> reporter: the republican nominee even refusing to rule out banning immigration from top u.s. allies, including france and germany and threatening to abandon the world trade organization if it doesn't approve of his plan to tax american goods produced in foreign countries. >> we're going to renegotiate or we're going to pull out. world trade organization is a disaster. >> reporter: ahead of tonight's democratic national convention kickoff, trump attempting a divide and conquer strategy, slamming hillary clinton for

naming virginia senator tim kaine as her vp pick. >> what happened with the choice of tim kaine was a slap in the face to bernie sanders and everybody. i was shocked. >> on his worst, worst, worst day, tim kaine is 100 times better than donald trump will ever be. >> reporter: this as prominent trump supporter, retired lieutenant general michael flynn, stirs new controversy for the campaign, retweeting a cnn link to an interview with clinton's campaign manager with an anti-semitic comment attached. flynn writing, this is what was meant to be retweeted, the earlier retweet was a mistake, my sincerest apologies. this is the latest twitter flub from trump's team with a tweet from trump's own account being called anti-semitic earlier this year, that included what critics say was a star of david. an alisyn, trump doubling down on comments he made about nato

when he suggested that he may not come to the aid of nato nations that do not pay their own way, to which senator majority leader mitch mcconnell said those comments that trump made were a rookie mistake. he said this is why trump needs people like him to steer him in the right direction on issues such as this, to which trump replied, he said that mcconnell was 100% wrong. he called mcconnell's comments sad. alisyn? >> okay, jason. thanks so much for all of that reporting. we do have some breaking news to tell you about right now because there has been this deadly shooting outside of a nightclub in ft. myers, florida. two people, we've learned, are dead. at least a dozen wounded. cnn's boris sanchez is heading to the scene. he joins us now on the phone with all the latest details. boris, what have you learned? >> hey, alisyn. yeah, in just the past half hour, we learned that police have obtained two more people in connection with the shooting. that brings the total number of people obtained for the shooting

to three. the main crime scene is outside club blu. it's in the parking lot. according to cnn producer chuck johnson, who's at the scene, he said there are evidence markers everywhere. it's apparent that a lot of shots were fired outside the club. the two other scenes that police are processing right now, one is at a home where apparently shots were fired at the house and at a vehicle. one person was injured there. then there's another scene nearby, an intersection where one of the people obtained were stopped by officers. we should tell you they're still canvassing for suspects at this point. they haven't called any the people they've detained suspects so far. one important point to make, on the club's facebook page, there was a flyer for the party last night. it was apparently teen night. there was no i.d. required to get in. so we're learning that all ages were there. at a local hospital, there are victims as young as 12 years

old. the ages range from 12 to 27. again, 14 to 16 people injured, two dead. we're on the way there right now. as soon as we get more information, we'll bring it to you. back to you. >> oh, my gosh. 12-year-olds. that is a big development, boris. thank you. >> all right. so boris sanchez is there. we'll be checking in with him throughout the morning. alisyn and i obviously are here in philadelphia for the beginning of the democratic national convention, and there's already drama. wikileaks did an e-mail dump that led to the chairwoman of the party resigning. why? these e-mails show some things that aren't going to make his supporters very happy. what is the state of play as we begin the convention? we have it for you ahead. ♪ hi daddy!

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so what was the effect of the republican national convention on the race? we now know. donald trump overtaking hillary clinton in a new cnn national poll. it shows trump up by three points in the head-to-head race. he had been trailing by seven before the convention. there are other numbers as well, especially when you look at the

four way. we're going to discuss it with congresswoman debbie dingell from michigan. so these numbers, it is not unusual to have a bounce. we've seen higher bounces than, this but this is the first time that he has led against clinton in a very long time, and he broke that threshold of 45%, 46%. he's at 48 in this poll. that's a meaningful number. how much does this worry you? >> you know, i've taken this race seriously for a long time. i've always said it was going to be a competitive race. the challenge now -- and by the way, we expected a bump. you know you're going to see a bump. it's not as big as many of the bumps you've seen in recent years, but this campaign has taken it seriously. you'll see a bump for her when we come out of this convention, and then the race is on. >> so there's another number in this poll. on thus worthiness for hillary clinton, she's not trustworthy is at 68%. have you ever heard of a number like that before in politics for

someone competitive for president? >> i've seen it. you go through periods -- >> 68%? >> i've known hillary clinton. you know i've known her for decades. this woman is one of the most decent human beings i know. she's got to help the american people see who she is. i got to know her when we were working spouses 30 years ago, and she cared about kids and was helping the kids. she didn't go choose to be a high-priced lawyer. she worked for those kids. she cared about issues. her job now is for the people to know the woman that i've known for three decades. but i think she has the ability to do that, and there are going to be other people like me out there trying to help people see who she really is. >> so debbie dingell does that. she does it forcefully, compelling. then you have the wikileaks situation. your chairwoman has to step down. clinton absorbs her into the campaign, which seems like she's embracing the conduct, which was overtly hostile to bernie sanders, which is exactly what he was complaining about. how does that help for trustworthiness? >> well, i think that everybody is trying to move forward.

debbie did a very good job as chair of the dnc. those wikileaks, which we have to wonder about why and how they were leaked, is there a russian connection to donald trump? >> cnn is reporting that the u.s. government believes that russia did hack the dnc, is responsible for these. why they did it is subject to opinion, obviously, but they show what they show, right? there was an animosity towards sanders inside that clubhouse. >> those weren't debbie's -- i'm not going to defend anything that was in them. when anyone goes after someone based on religion -- i live in deerborn, michigan. donald trump subpoena tis tryine this country with fear. you come to my hometown, largest muslim population in the country. those are good american working men and women. they're teachers, doctors. what he's doing trying to divide us with fear and anger -- you know, george bush after 9/11, horrible time for us, but he wasn't going to let this country be divided by fear and hatred

and anger. that's what donald trump is doing. we're not going to let him do that for this november election. >> so what do you do this week to overcome this negative momentum coming into it that will allow hillary clinton to deal with that 68% number? how does she do what you're saying she needs to do? >> i think you're going to see a strong convention. tonight you'll see senator sanders. it's going to be very important, what he does. but i've talked to him. he knows what donald trump would be as president. i think he's going to work very hard, and it's going to be very important that he be one of the key people out there. elizabeth warren, michelle obama. each night you're going to see people that the american people trust talk about the hillary clinton they know. none of us are -- i won't use that word on air, but we don't bs. i think what you've got to see is start to have people -- we've let others get up there and define her. now you're going to see people who have known her for a long time talk about the real hillary clinton. >> i think you've got a tough case, congresswoman. it's not just the wikileaks. the e-mail thing is hanging over

her head. the benghazi thing is hanging over her head. you can argue the facts all day. you want to talk about libya and the problems over there, but there does seem to be a theme of when confronted with a problem, the clinton machine locks n protects itself, and to hell with everybody else. that's what they're using the e-mail scandal for. how do you defeat that premise? >> well, i'm going to talk about the hillary clinton that i know. that's what i'm going to do. and i'm going to talk about everything from -- you know, she's a real human being. that's what people don't see. when john was in the hospital and almost dying, first call, do you need anything, do you need me. that's been my friend. but i saw her work on health care. i saw how hard she cared about working men and women. when the health care didn't work, she moved to c.h.i.p. they got health insurance passed for kids in this country. she cares about working men and women. you know, when she talks about trade, she walks her talk. she's not going to support bad

trade agreements. i love donald trump when he talked about currency manipulation, but then you start to get the truth, chris. he's producing his clothes in china. he comes to michigan. look, you'll find a quote from me in august. i love hearing this man talk about currency manipulation, but then he doesn't like what an autoworker says to him and says we're not going to build auto plates here, we're going to build them where they get paid less. when people hear those kinds of stories, they're going to know what's really at stake in november. >> there's plenty at stake. that's for sure. congresswoman, great to have you on "new day." thank you for making the case. we'll be seeing you around here, i'm sure. >> i look forward to it. >> all right. so alisyn? >> there's other news around the world to talk about. this new attack in germany, this time it was a syrian national detonating a suicide bomb at a music festival. what wie know about the suspects past and what may have led to the violence there. we have more when "new day" returns. out of a tight spot.

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it is the first day of the democratic national convention here in philly. it's getting under way this morning. according to a new cnn national poll, donald trump got a notable bump out of his party's convention last week. in the four-way race, trump now leads by five points. here to discuss is new mexico congressman, chairman of the democratic congressional campaign committee. great to have you here with us this morning. >> good morning. it's wonderful to be here today.

a little bit of rain, but it's going to be a wonderful day. >> it's just broken, so things are looking up in terms of weather. let's talk about this new cnn poll that is just out. it does seem as though the republican national convention was good for donald trump. maybe we can look at the two-way race, when it's just between donald trump and hillary clinton. i can show you that before the convention, he was at 42%, he was at 49%. after the convention, those numbers have switched. he's now at 48%, she's at 45%. how do you explain what the bump is that he got from the con v g conventi convention? >> well, clearly it's a convention bump. alisyn, i appreciate you pointing out that the last poll cnn did had secretary clinton up seven points. we'll get to the democratic convention, and we're going to see secretary clinton rebound. we'll see that bounce come back around. i would say the one thing i appreciated from the convention last week and where we're going into this week is just to remind everyone out there, last week not a living republican president came out to support

donald trump. governor romney wasn't here to support donald trump. this week we have senator sanders time. we have president obama this week, vice president biden, as well as president clinton and secretary clinton. we're going to be stronger coming out of this. hope to see that rebound. >> i guess what the point is, is that based on the polling numbers, voters don't seem to care. they don't care there wasn't somebody who was a big headliner beyond donald trump. they don't care there seems to be some chaos or melania trump's speech seemed to be plagiarized. they responded to whatever it was that donald trump said in his speech. >> well, i think that voters across the country and people across america are going to see that contrast this week as well. they'll compare where democrats are with not just what republicans are doing, which is enflaming flames, rather than solving problems. >> but that's working. i guess that's my point, it's resonating. >> i really want to say that people want to see real solutions behind what's going on here. there's going to be a very positive conversation this week that i'm looking forward to as

well, hearing about stories like senator kaine who has just worked hard. a very humble beginning. being able to reach out to the american people. as well as secretary clinton advocating for all that work she's done on behalf of children. that's where people want us to be talking. >> okay. the democrats, however, are already embroiled in their own controversy because of these leaked e-mails that do seem to illustrate that the system was rigged against bernie sanders. what do you say to that? >> first off, chairwoman and congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz did the right thing. clearly she didn't want to see a distraction going into this amazing week with democrats as well. look, we all know that those e-mails should not have been sent as well about senator sanders. i think we all agree with that. as we go into this week to make sure that we're coming together and reaching out to the american people, we're earning their trust, holding that trust, that's what i'm looking forward to. >> but they were sent. how do you explain that it seems

that the content of those e-mails suggests that the dnc never wanted bernie sanders to be the nominee, they wanted hillary clinton to be the nominee, and they were putting their finger on the scale for her. >> well, alisyn, as i said, those e-mails should not have been sent. i think it was very clear that people all across the country, especially with secretary clinton, the leadership now across the country with democrats, we all agreed. >> so what was going on at the dnc? >> i'm not certain what was going on. looking at this, it's clear that coming out of this, though, we're moving forward and we're united. we're strong now going into this week. >> this is from brad marshall, dnc cfo, saying they should somehow try and denigrate bernie sanders' religion. let me read it. for kentucky and west virginia, can we get someone to ask about his belief? does he believe in god? he had skated on saying he had a jewish heritage, but i heard he's an atheist. my southern baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a

jew and an atheist. it seems irrefutable that the dnc was stacking the deck. >> clearly the staff that sent this e-mail, there was no reason why this e-mail should have ever been sent. it should have never been authored. it should have never been mentioned. those are thoughts that have no place in what we do as a democratic party. there's a reason why there's action that's being taken today and why we're united going into this week. that's the difference between democrats and republicans. i don't think you're going to find a democrat out there or a person out there that's going to say a positive thing about that ugly e-mail. >> congressman lujan, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> great to be with you. >> all right. we now know who the number twos are in this race, indiana governor mike pence for republicans, of course, virginia senator tim kaine for democrats. so how will they be used on the campaign trail, and where do they stand on the issues? we'll explore the number twos next.

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i want somebody who will can be candid and will tell me, hey, i don't agree with this, or could you think about it somewhat differently? i don't think i have all the answers. i think that we'll be a good team. i believe we'll work well together. i believe that he will give me his best advice. >> and he said nothing during that entire sound bite. that is obviously the vice presidential nominee tim kaine there. that's hillary clinton speaking about her running mate. that was their first interview together last night on "60 minutes." many are praising clinton's choice of kaine as an experienced, steady, and likable figure who will humanize her, but there are some sanders people who feel like he ain't to the left enough. let's discuss the proins and co of both vp picks. and we have the big cnn poll numbers that tell us what the net effect of the republican

republican convention was. we have john phillips. he's a donald trump supporter. he's also a radio commentator, one of the best voices in the business. good to have you both. let's look at these big numbers. let's look at the four-way race first. that's including obviously dr. stein and gary johnson with clinton and trump. you'll see trump has taken the lea lead. now let's look at the two-way race between clinton and trump. please, if you would. there we go. this is important for two reasons. you see your bounce. we haven't had big bounces in recent elections. that's a plus for trump. and he's above 46%. that was a ceiling for him. this is the first time we've seen that number pop. it's the first time he's been if the lead against clinton in many months. so this is all relevant. now, on the vp side we have some numbers as well.

obviously the polls were done before tim kaine entered the picture. put that up just for our little bit of a measure of how people feel about governor from indiana mike pence fares, and it's positive, his number there. so pre-rnc, favorable poip of mike pence. post, 63. that takes us to the panel. you have all these numbers to digest. i don't see how you qualify them as anything but good for your side, john. what do you take most confidence in? >> if you go to the wikileaks scandal right now, i think that's very damaging to hillary clinton. >> i'm asking you for the poll numbers, and you just can't wait. >> here it is. we have to put it into context of the convention. what was the story line coming out of the republican convention, that hillary clinton is crooked. what happens as soon as you start the democratic convention, you have this wikileaks document dump where it looks like the democratic party fixed it for hillary clinton over bernie sanders. so it feeds into the narrative that trump put out there. now you're seeing a bounce in the polls post-republican

convention, when everyone thought it was a disaster, the party's in disarray. >> bounce isn't unusual. >> he did get a bump. he is in the lead. now hillary clinton has to try to take the story line that donald trump set and defined, and she's got to try to turn it around. >> can i tell you, though, no poll is going to matter until this whole race settles a little bit. i would say two weeks from now when we get a little distance from both these conventions, the polls will settle and we'll get a real look at the race. it's interesting that everyone thinks hillary clinton is a slight favorite. the polls are going to be all over the place. >> how damaging do you think the wikileaks content -- the content of those e-mails that show there was something suspicious going on from the dnc? >> ultimately, i don't think it's going to be damaging to hillary clinton because i don't think hillary clinton had anything to do with it. it is very unfortunate. i think the people who are responsible are going to -- you know, are taking the hit on it, as they should. >> it's just another e-mail

controversy. that can't be good. >> it's very unfortunate that people acted irresponsibly, but this had nothing to do with hillary clinton. these are not people who even work for her. >> now they do. >> well, not yet. not until thursday. >> but what's that about, richard? how do you feel about that move? you have debbie wasserman schultz step down as chairwoman because of these e-mails. >> not yet. she's here for four more days. >> because that's when the convention ends. but you have the punitive head in donna brazile. should hillary clinton absorb dws, debbie wasserman schultz, into her campaign given what's just happened? >> i don't think that's going to happen. >> you don't think that will happen? it's just a rumor? >> i don't think it'll happen. i think debbie wasserman schultz has served as the head of dnc with some distinction and now some issues. we're going to move on from that. but i don't think it involves hillary clinton because hillary clinton had nothing to do with it. these aren't people who work for her.

i'm sure she wouldn't want this. these are people expressing their own personal preference. i'm not defending it. they should not have done it. it's inexcusable. people who are responsible have taken the hit. >> if it's 11:00 at the hotel, somebody needs to tell debbie it's time to check out because she's here through the duration of the convention. >> i love these republicans who are getting involved in who should be running the democratic party. >> i'll say this, donna brazile is one of the smartest minds in politics. >> so she scares you, right? >> with anderson cooper last night, she said even more e-mails should be expected to come out that will be embarrassing to the democratic party. >> that was a prediction. >> what's in those e-mails? >> not a fact. >> she said it worried her a little bit. let's talk quickly about the vice presidential pick. does that move the needle in this race? do these choices move the needle? >>. >> i think you see with tim kaine -- you saw that chemistry the two of them have together. you saw how he relaxes her. i think she -- we all know she

connects best with voters when she's informal, when she feels comfortable, when she's relaxed. he obviously -- there's a great chemistry between them. he's a strong progressive. i think we're going to be unified. he's going to help unify the party. on the other side, i think mike pence is a conservative, he's out of step with the mainstream. there's obviously no chemistry between him and donald trump. trumpz went in, tried to give him a little smooch, he stepped back. >> just because he tried to kiss him. >> he made that big push for gay voters. >> who? >> donald trump. >> well, i don't know where this is going. >> neither do we. gentlemen, thank you. we'll wrap it on though note. thank you very much. >> all right. no better way to start off a convention than that. this is the dnc's moment. how do they counter what happened with the rnc? donald trump got a bump in our new poll numbers. so what does the dnc have to do

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>> on his worst, worst, worst day, tim kaine is a hundred times better than donald trump will ever be. >> let's defeat her in november. >> i don't know what their convention was about other than criticizing me. >> most of us stopped the name-calling thing about fifth grade. >> the dnc was not running a fair operation. i'm not shocked. >> i'll take our reince over her any day. forget it. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome back to your new day. we are live here in philadelphia, where the democratic national convention begins today. we do begin with some breaking news. there is a major shift in the race for the white house. donald trump getting a notable bounce after his convention. let's take a look at these new cnn national poll numbers out just one hour ago. trump is now ahead of hillary clinton by five points in a four-way race. this is his largest lead in

nearly a year. >> in a two-way race, number is more dramatic. trump has a three-point lead over clinton. you have to remember, why is that dramatic, it's less than the four way. no, this is the first time we've seen trump at 48%. this is also the first time he's been beating clinton head to head in months. so this is a big deal. and it comes in context of not the best start for this campaign either -- or this convention either. look at this number in the poll. honest and trustworthy about hillary clinton, yes, 30%, no, 68%. how does she fix that in the convention here in philadelphia, which is already overshadowed by the resignation of the party's chairwoman because of these e-mails that wikileaks dumped on the internet that shows there was some, you know, hostility towards bernie sanders within the dnc. we have every angle covered. let's begin with senior political report eer manu raju.

>> reporter: hey, chris. that's right. debbie wasserman schultz scheduled to speak before the florida delegation here this morning and here in this convention hall. how will bernie sanders supporters react when she does speak in that is an open question. but this much is clear, the democratic convention starting off with a bit of drama. >> i'm with her! i'm with her! >> reporter: democratic national committee chairwoman debbie wasserman schultz forced to resign amid a massive e-mail leak, showing dnc staffers favoring hillary clinton over bernie sanders during the democratic primary. more than 1,000 sanders supporters marching in philadelphia in protest. sanders himself, who has been calling for wasserman schultz's resignation for months, telling cnn he's not surprised that the dnc was working against him. >> it is an outrage and it's sad that you would have people in

important positions in the dnc trying to undermine my campaign. >> reporter: clinton's campaign manager pointing his finger at russian hackers, suggesting they had a hand in the leaks. >> experts are now saying that the russians are releasing these e-mails for the purpose of actually helping donald trump. >> reporter: trump's campaign chairman flatly denying the suggestion. >> it's just absurd. i don't know what you're talking about. it's crazy. >> reporter: on capitol hill, wasserman schultz had few defenders. harry reid was pushing for weeks to replace her, including at one point floating his number two, dick durbin, as a replacement. the interim chair will now be donna brazill, al gore's former campaign manager and a cnn political analyst. brazile, who has ties with both clinton and sanders, warned that friday's leak may just be the tip of the iceberg.

>> more e-mails are coming. i don't know the substance, but i know there are lots of stuff we might have to apologize for. >> reporter: trump quick to pounce on the political turmoil, posting this tweet. the democrats are in a total meltdown, but the biased media will say how great they are doing. e-mails say the rigged system is alive and well. this scandal threatening to shatter the uneasy truce between sanders' progressive base and the party establishment ahead of today's convention themed united together, where bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, and michelle obama will headline the first night. the controversy also overshadowing clinton's big introduction of her vice presidential pick, virginia senator tim kaine. the newly minted democratic ticket sitting down for their first interview together, keeping their focus squarely on the republicans. >> i don't know what their convention was about other than

criticizing me. i seem to be the only unifying theme that they had. >> reporter: kaine showing he's ready to defend his running mate on the campaign trail. >> when i see this, you know, crooked hillary or see the lock her up, it's just ridiculous. it is ridiculous. and look, most of us stopped the name calling thing about fifth grade. >> reporter: now, clinton's slipping poll numbers underscoring the stakes ahead of this week's convention. democrats pulling out all the stops, including a speech this week by the former new york city mayor and independent michael bloomberg, hoping to give clinton some appeal with moderate and swing voters. chris? >> boy, i'll tell you, manu, just when you say that'll never happen in this race, it happens. thank you for that. we got some other big headlines that are shockers. this new poll. how about this, the wikileaks where all these e-mails get dumped about the dnc, and it turns out according to the u.s. government that russia did it. what is going on here?

let's bring in former governor of michigan and senior adviser for correct the record, governor jennifer granholm, and bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver. great to have you both. >> hey, we're here together on the same page. >> i know. >> but not on the same team. >> you guys look happy. >> do you consider yourselves on the same team? >> absolutely. >> even after these e-mails? just as you suspected. >> as i said for a long time. but look, i think debbie wasserman schultz did the right thing. i think now is the time for party unity. i think she put the party ahead of herself. she stepped back. i think we're going to of a chance to turn the page. we're going to have new leadership there. i think we'll have a new direction in the party. i think we'll be ready to fight in the fall. >> jeff, that's really gracious. you and senator sanders have been gracious throughout all the revelation of these leaks. just one more point on this. you did long suspect this. so what was it like to then see it in print and have the evidence and have it confirmed? >> well, you know, you can say suspect. i think we long knew it based on

how we were treated during the campaign. i think for everybody else in the world, this was really sort of bringing it out in black and white. but look, this happened. we knew it happened then. mow is the time to go forward. the thing to do now is elect hillary clinton and defeat donald trump. that's what we have to do. >> do you think the russians were behind it? >> i have no idea. >> the u.s. government thinks the russians with were behind i. >> i'm not saying they're not. >> let's say the russians are behind this. what does that mean in terms of the dynamic -- >> it means you better watch your e-mails. i'm not kidding you. anything is subject to hacking a the this point. so, you know, you heard others saying there will be more e-mail. i'm sure there will be. >> why the dnc e-mails? >> well, i don't know. who do the russians favor in this race? >> i don't know. what's your speculation? >> who's bffs with putin? >> donald trump said he's a strong leader. he never said they were friends. >> obviously the clinton campaign has suggested there was some sort of working in cahoots

between the russians and the trump campaign. do you go that far? >> i haven't seen the evidence of that. >> you want nothing to do with these e-mails. they can't go away fast enough for both of you guys. you're trying to come together. this is proof of what has made it a journey. >> here's what i would say about this. this is a story. it's a story on the first day of the convention. it has been addressed. debbie wasserman schultz has decided not to be the story. she has stepped down. we are moving forward. tonight's theme is all going to be about hillary clinton, about her focus on her life's fight for families, for children. you're going to see people who are giving testimonials about her. you're going to see michelle obama. you're going to see cory booker. you're going to see senator warren and of course senator sanders. it's going to be a great night. this kerfuffle will be over. >> there's another cnn poll out. it does show that donald trump got a bump from his convention last week.

a notable one. if you look at the two-way race, donald trump is now at 48%. he was at 42% before last week. hillary clinton has dropped from 49% to 45%. jeff, does this mean -- you know, you heard so many democrats say it was such a dark speech, his vision for the country is overly dark. they felt there was so much chaos. voters responded to it. voters didn't think it was overly dark. i think democrats have to be vigilant. donald trump is a very dangerous candidate. we cannot afford to let him become president of the united states. he'll turn back decades of progress in this country. everybody who's thinking about sitting out or voting for a third-party candidate, you have to get into this race. you have to support hillary clinton. we've got to defeat donald trump if we're going to make any progress going forward. >> the berners are out there. donald trump is reaching out to them saying, i'm your guy. i'm an outsider who wants to attack the status quo just like sanders did. i'm against trade every bit as much and even more than bernie sanders is because i'm for you working-class people who have been forgotten by the fat cats

at the tops of both of these parties. how do you get those people into the clinton camp? >> i think we have to expose donald trump, first of all. it's all phoney bologna. he talks about trade, but he wants to turn trade policy over to corporate raiders. certainly don't need more business people involved in trade. we need more government people who are going to protect the interests of the american people public. so donald trump on trade is a phony. i think the democratic party has been off the rails on trade. i think now they're trying to get back on the rails so we can protect the american workers. >> and i think bernie sanders supporters are smart enough to see exactly what donald trump is doing. he's trying to goad them. they're not -- i mean, he's even trying to -- >> he got a bump in independents in this poll. >> it's a poll after a convention. you're supposed to get a convention bump. he got a six-point bump. jimmy carter had a nine-point bump. neither of them did well in their elections. barack obama -- >> a heck of a keynote speech at

that convention though. >> there was a great keynote speech for sure. >> but i think we have to be vigilant. democrats can n cannot sit on t hands this fall. >> the poll numbers show hillary clinton is still bedeviled by the untrustworthy moniker. 68% of people in this new poll find her to be untrustworthy. >> and that's all you heard last week. >> so what do you do with it? >> we start today. we start to give people the real hillary so people can see what she has done, how consistent she has been through her life. you're going to hear from real people who have been impacted by her, who know her, who can talk about her story, the sort of -- you talk to people all the time who say, if you only knew her one on one f you only see what i see. so those stories are going to come out, and they're coming out starting tonight. >> jeff weaver, governor granholm, great to have you

here. enjoy your convention. notable to say, 68%, that number only ten points less than the is alisyn camerota too sexy, distractingly so number that comes across in all polling. >> he likes the shar truce. >> that's true. i can't spell it, but i like it. "new day" will be live from philadelphia at 5:00 a.m. eastern all the time. the democratic national convention begins at 4:00 p.m. eastern time when the gavel goes off. cnn will be there. >> republican nominee donald trump says he wants to expand his proposed ban on muslims entering the u.s. it will include countries compromised by terror. jason carroll is live in roanoke, virginia, with more on that. hi, jason. >> reporter: good morning to you, alisyn. donald trump is calling his proposal extreme vetting. we'll see if he has more to say about that when he holds his town hall here in virginia,

roanoke, later on today. what is very clear at this point, donald trump not backing down on a number of controversial statements he's made on a number of issues. >> extreme vetting. if a person can't prove what they have to be able to prove, they're not coming into this country. >> reporter: donald trump offering new clarification on his ever-evolving immigration stance, moving away from the blanket muslim ban he proposed this past december. >> calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> reporter: to omitting the word muslim entirely during his speech at the republican national convention. >> we must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism. >> reporter: trump now insisting he's not pulling back on the ban. >> i actually don't think it's a pullback.

in fact, you could say it's an expansion. people were so upset when i used the word muslim. remember this -- and i'm okay with that because i'm talking territory instead of muslim. >> reporter: the republican nominee even refusing to rule out banning immigration from top u.s. allies, including france and germany and threatening to abandon the world trade organization if it doesn't approve of his plan to tax american goods produced in foreign countries. >> we're going to renegotiate or we're going to pull out. world trade organization is a disaster. >> reporter: ahead of tonight's democratic national convention kickoff, trump attempting a divide and conquer strategy, slamming hillary clinton for naming virginia senator tim kaine as her vp pick. >> what happened with the choice of tim kaine was a slap in the face to bernie sanders and everybody. i was shocked. >> on his worst, worst, worst day, tim kaine is 100 times better than donald trump will ever be. >> reporter: this as prominent trump supporter, retired lieutenant general michael flynn, stirs new controversy for the campaign, retweeting a cnn link to an interview with clinton's campaign manager with an anti-semitic comment

attached. flynn writing, this is what was meant to be retweeted, the earlier retweet was a mistake, my sincerest apologies. this is the latest twitter flub from trump's team with a tweet from trump's own account being called anti-semitic earlier this year, that included what critics say was a star of david. an alisyn, trump doubling down on comments he made about nato when he suggested that he may not come to the aid of nato nations that do not pay their own way, he may not come to their aid. to which senator majority leader mitch mcconnell called those comments basically irresponsible, saying it was a rookie mistake, to which trump said mcconnell is 100% wrong. chris? >> i suspect we're going to hear some concerns. >> all right, jason. thank you very much. we'll follow that part of the story. we'll be back with you in a

little bit. we also have breaking news to update you on. there has been a deadly shooting outside a nightclub in ft. myers, florida. two people have lost their lives. at least a dozen others are wounded. those numbers are early. it's still an active situation. the youngest victim just 12 years old. cnn's boris sanchez is on his way to the scene. he joins us now on the phone. active in terms of the police not knowing exactly what happened yet and how many are involved. we're looking at live pictures right now, boris, of where you're headed. what do you know? >> chris, we actually just pulled up to the scene here, and we're hearing from the club for the first time. they posted a comment on their facebook page a few moments ago kind of explaining the situation. it was apparently a middle school/high school event. no idd.d. was required to get i. you had young children of all ages. apparently the event had just ended and people were pouring out into the parking lot, many young kids calling their parents to go pick them up, when apparently shots rang out. we don't know exactly how many

shots were fired or by whom. we know three people have been deta detained. this isn't the only crime scene. there's another crime scene down the street from here at a home where apparently shots were fired at the house and at a vehicle. one person was injured there. there's another crime scene not far from here at an intersection where one of those three people were detained. from what we understand, officials are still canvassing the area looking for more suspects. as you said, at least a dozen people injured, ages ranging from 12 to 27. still a very active situation. we'll get more information and send it your way soon, chris. >> all right, boris. thanks for making it there. we're showing a live picture right now of all those bullet casings. all those yellow tags is the number of a casing they found so far. we'll stay on that situation. it seems complex, at least. so we'll get back to that as soon as we get more information. let's take a quick break right now. the election has taken a turn. donald trump got a bump after his convention.

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the democratic convention begins today here in philadelphia, where chris and i are, but many people are still talking about the leadership shake-up in the party. the dnc's chief resigning after this convention because of these leaked e-mails that showed party officials were biased towards hillary clinton and against bernie sanders. joining us now is delaware senator chris coons. thank you so much for being here. >> great to be here. >> let's talk about these leaked e-mails. before we get to the content, who do you think was behind the hack and leaking them? >> well, i haven't gotten a definitive brief on this yet, but i'm very troubled. i'm concerned with the allegations reported in "the new york times" this morning as well as by hillary clinton's campaign manager that russia was actually behind it, that some of the cyber hackers that are specialists at breaking into american companies and american

military sites actually targeted the dnc. no one's broke into the dnc since watergate and richard nixon. this is a troubling suggestion that the russians are trying to sway this election. >> let's talk about that. that's what hillary clinton's campaign manager suggested, that's why the russians would do this. not just for mischief but because they somehow support donald trump and thinks he supports them. >> i'm struck by the things donald trump has said publicly in recent months, both walking back our commitment to our nato allies and suggesting he genuinely likes vladimir putin. putin, who's under sanctions from the united states and many of our eu allies for invading and occupying a big chunk of ukraine. >> we have some examples of what donald trump has said about vladimir putin. let me play those for our viewers and get you to respond. >> we have russia, which is a real threat too. it's not as big as the soviet union but a real threat, run by a very smart cookie, much smarter, much more cunning than our president. and i like him because he called

me a genius. i respect putin. he's a strong leader, i can tell you that, unlike what we have. we have a pathetic leader. i know russia well. you know what, they want to be friendly with the united states. wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with somebody. wouldn't it be nice if we actually got along with russia? wouldn't that be good? is that a bad thing? >> senator, what do you hear in these comments? >> i hear someone who's not sophisticated in foreign policy, who isn't paying attention to what's happened in the world in recent years, who doesn't recognize the danger that he poses when he walks back our commitment under the nato treaty to baltic states like latvia, lithuania, estonia, that are right up against the russian border. i'm leading a congressional delegation to ukraine and estonia later this summer where we're going to take a closer look at exactly what the situation is on the ground. i'm concerned donald trump just

isn't ready to be president. >> you're on the foreign relations committee as well. will you be able to figure out if the russians were behind this? >> we'll get a briefing. one of the things i'm excited about this week, this convention, is for the american people to get to know senator tim kaine. he's a terrific, balanced, and capable person, a great husband and father, a progressive catholic, who i think is ready to be president on the first day. i'm thrilled that secretary clinton made him her running mate. >> let's talk about this new cnn poll out just this morning that shows that donald trump did get a notable bump from his convention. six points from where he was before the convention. he's now at 48%. if it's just a two-way matchup, to hillary clinton's 45%. she was hurt by the convention, it looks like, last week. she had 49% before the republican convention. how concerning is this? >> i'm really not surprised by this. historically, conventions give their candidate a bump. that's part of the point of having a four-day nationally televised convention. i'm excited for the american people to tune in the next four

nights as they get to see here in philadelphia what our vision is, the democratic party. i think when folks get done hearing about president obama, vice president biden, first lady michelle obama, and then secretary clinton and senator kaine's vision for the country, she'll get a comparable or bigger bounce coming out of philadelphia. >> but does this suggest that the way that the democrats characterize the republican national convention, it was overly dark, it was hopeless, it was demagoguery, that that's not how voters felt. certainly not respondents to this poll. >> it was dark and it was full of demagoguery and it was frankly troubling. i also think they succeeded in moving folks who had rejected trump and were considering voting for johnson, the libertarian candidate, back into the republican column. >> how did they do that? >> i haven't seen the internals of this, but i think trump's speech the last night cleared the bar for many republicans who had walked away from trump because he's not a conservative. he doesn't share many of the core values of the republican party. you heard what senator cruz did the next to lastight.

he refused to endorse trump. there's a big and deep division within the republican party. even though their convention was full of a lot of foot faults and misstatements and that big fight in the last two nights, i think the in end they brought home some of the base of the republican party. >> in other words, division does work for many voters. >> division may work for voters who don't see a positive alternati alternative. if you're selling fear and concern and division, that can work if there's no positive alternative. what american voters are going to hear this week, particularly out of tim kaine and secretary clinton, is a positive, hopeful alternative about why america is strong, is great, and can be stronger and greater in this century. >> senator chris coons, thank you for being here. all right. the clinton/kaine ticket making its debut. will the dnc e-mail leak hurt party unity as the convention begins? we'll discuss that with our all-star political panel next. yt essays in the entire 8th grade.

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now you can watch nbc's coverage of the rio olympic games live at home or on the go. well, this is a big deal well beyond politics. the fbi is investigating a

russian hack of the democratic national committee's e-mail system. yes, all of these e-mails dumped through wikileaks raising questions about whether or not the dnc was trying, was trying to box out bernie sanders. now the new question is, are the russians trying to influence our election? let's discuss. we have errol lewis, meave reston, and david gregory, cnn political analyst and the host of "the david gregory show" podcast. good to have you all here. you cannot make it up. forget about the document dump right here on the eve of the convention, the first day that paints clinton in exactly the way she doesn't want to be painted. but it was the russians, errol. >> the russians all along, right? some holdouts who want to, i guess, restore the soviet union. this is a headache every which

way. i think what viewers will take away from this is that there's something shady going on. there's something not quite right, and it involves e-mails. sort of a letter perfect way to derail the message -- >> but it's shady two ways. it's shady for the obvious reason, which is how do they feel about bernie sanders, did that communicate itself into the actual process. that doesn't seem to be much proof right now. but the suggestion is there. that's all you need when you have a 68% negative number in the poll on hillary clinton. but the russians, why would they be messing with the election, and who are they doing it for? >> there's no way of knowing. there's no question that if the russians did this, they do want to meddle, they want to create mischief. i think the clinton campaign likes a little bit of a head fake away from the substance of the e-mail when they're accurate to say, oh, look, the russians are doing this. whether they're doing it for trump, what we know about trump, how he's positioned himself is she's been sympathetic. his position vis-a-vis nato is an invitation for putin to

expand his visions of restoring the soviet empire. so all of that stuff is fishy. it's fascinating. none of which detracts from, you know, how impactful the fact is of these e-mails. >> but meave, is it going too far to say the russians would want donald trump as president so they're meddling because he has been, some would say, effusive about talking about putin. he does it a lot. he's been more than sympathetic to him. he's called him a strong leader, much stronger than president obama, and this is the russians saying thank you. >> certainly good fodder for conspiracy theory, for sure. i don't think we know the answer to what the exact motives were here. we certainly need a lot more facts before we can draw those kinds of conclusions, but it brings paul manafort into the mix. >> why? >> he worked for putin's puppet in ukraine. >> so it will just bring attention, you know, back to donald trump's comments about

putin and others. so in some ways, it helps hillary clinton in the sense that she can continue to argue, like, this is someone who's unpredictable and unsteady, and we don't know what he would do with our allies and adversaries. at the same time, i think it's very suspicious that, you know, this blows up and we're no longer talking about the content of wikileaks. >> what bothers you most about the content? what's the harshest indictment in there? >> just the fact it has reinforced everything that bernie sanders supporters felt the whole time, which was that the system was rigged against them, that people within the dnc were working against them, that they were not impartial. just talking to some of those supporters over the last couple days here in philly, none of them were surprised by the content of the e-mails. they said, yes, this is what we were telling you all along. so yes, it will stoke some anger here, and it'll be really interesting to see what bernie sanders does to tamp that down. >> and i think they are trying

to tamp it down. he's been pretty good. what's interesting, you remember back in 2008 when hillary clinton's pollster wrote a memo about how to go after obama to create an otherness about him, a foreignness about him, how he was outside the american experience, and now here it's let's paint sanders because he's not a religious jew, is an atheist, and let's use that in the south against him, just to show if you had any questions, it's not all sweetness and pie in the democratic party. >> people can't pretend to be utterly shocked that folks working for the democratic party have political opinions. to a certain extent, you have to reduce some of this stuff, this dark conspiracy. did they cover their tracks well enough? i don't know. >> but you're right. >> you think they stole the electi election? do you they think hindered him from a voting perspective? >> you can't fight any place where any of these e-mails amount to 3 million votes. >> they didn't do anything they talked about in the e-mails.

>> what's the way the story is playing right now? we were trying to figure it out this morning. everybody thinks it speaks to accident as taken by the dnc that rooked bernie sanders, stole the election from him. >> but there's no evidence. he couldn't get african-americans and hispanics to vote for him in large, you know, democratic settings. >> there was a suggestion in one of them that they should maybe malign his religion, as you were saying. that won't work in west virginia. but there's no evidence that they actually did that, that somebody publicly said he was an atheist. >> these are rather subtle sort of messaging type questions. when they don't want you on the ballot, if the party is working against you, you don't get on the ballot. all of the sudden there's lawsuits. >> tell the rnc that. donald trump went from being that guy with them. now look at him. >> it is rig against people like bernie sanders. as i said earlier, reince priebus, i'm sure, wishes it was more rigged on the republican side. he'd love some super delegates

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all right. there's a lot going on in this democratic national convention hasn't even officially started yet. the gavel will go down at 4:00.

cnn will be there. what about this wikileaks? what about these e-mails that suggest the dnc had an animosity towards bernie sanders? is this proof of what he's been complaining about all along? and we have new poll numbers that show the race has changed and there's a number in there for hillary clinton that she's going to have to deal with this week. let's bring in brian fallon, spokesperson for the clinton campaign. it is good to see you. good luck this week. donald trump weighing in on wikileaks, no surprise, but what he is saying might surprise you. put up the tweet, please. wait for it. wait for it. there it is. the new joke in town is that russia leaked the disastrous dnc e-mails, which should never have been written, stupid, because putin likes me. brian fallon shaking his head. you said he's wrong again. how? >> because there's a consensus among experts that it is,

indeed, russia behind this hack of the dnc. a couple months ago when the hack was first reported, it was a former top fbi official, a person that used to run cyber investigations at the fbi, sean henry, that conducted that review and said this is russia behind this. there is this anonymous person who's going out and trying to claim credit, but all the experts say this is the russian government trying to interfere in a u.s. election. >> why do you think they'd do it? what's your theory? >> i think we need to get to the bottom of this. there's signs that the u.s. government is taking this very seriously. agencies in the government meeting last week, according to reports, to assess this threat. i think that there's plenty of evidence for why vladimir putin might want donald trump to win this election. you've seen donald trump go out and express admiration for putin. you've seen him go out and suggest that we pull back from our commitment to our nato allies. just last week at the convention, he suggested we wouldn't honor our commitment to

assist those baltic states under threat from putin. so there's plenty of reason to think there's some kind of affinity there between putin and trump. >> we'll see what the fbi comes up with. intriguing but also distracting from the e-mails themselves. not a good way to start the convention. it seems to prove what bernie sanders and his camp was saying all along. the dnc, it's rigged, they're against me, they're all about hillary clinton. fair? >> two things going on here. number one, the e-mails themselves, can't defend them. what we've seen in terms of religion being thrown out there as something to go after bernie sanders on, completely unacceptable. that official has apologized,. as we learn more, we'll see if further action is necessary. >> will there be proof that hillary clinton was connected to these efforts? >> i don't think so. but there's a distinction to be drawn here between inappropriate e-mails being sent by dnc officials and a rigging of the nomination process. the two things are not the same. you can't equate them. the election process, the nominating process was decided by the voters in the states and by every standard hillary

clinton won a decisive victory if you look at the popular vote, the states won, the pledged delegates, and bernie sanders himself acknowledged she's the rightful winner of this nomination contest. that's why you'll hear from him tonight. >> this is a big night. you've got bernie sanders there. you've got michelle obama. you've got elizabeth warren. that's big. they're no scott baio. but this is you trying to put a big footprint. >> we don't have charles in charge, but we have a powerhouse lineup. >> what are you hoping to achieve? >> i think these people are going to be uniquely qualified to tell a story about how hillary clinton is able to bring the country together. they're going to attest to her integrity and commitment to building a nation that's stronger together. last week at the republican convention, we heard a lot of doom and gloom. we heard a lot of naysaying about the state of the country, yet we heard no solutions. >> but you saw the bounce he got. people are angry and frustrated. trump spoke to that. what was called chaos and doom and gloom resonated. he got a bump, six points. >> there's no doubt there's

anxiety out there, and both campaigns are seeking to address it. but we think we're offering the solutions to help middle class families get ahead. we have the jobs proposals to put our money where our mouth is and get wages rising in this country again. you didn't hear any solutions from donald trump. we're in a period of the race where there's going to be fludty in the polls. both campaigns are going to get a week of pretty unmitigate attention and all eyes on them. you're going to see movement in the polls, but i think donald trump has historically high negatives. he's alienated huge swaths of the electorate. this race is going to be close to the end, but we think we're in prime position to tell a good story about hillary clinton and why she's in this race. >> no question donald trump has his negatives. in this new poll though, hillary clinton 68% not trustworthy. this narrative, this reality that hillary clinton has a problem with the truth, how do you move that number? i've never seen a number that high before. >> well, this was the entire narrative that you heard from the republican convention last week. there were very few speakers that attested to why donald

trump would be a good president. the one unifying idea they had was attacking hillary clinton. we know that this is going to be a continued point that they stress over the next three months. we think the public is craving something more than that. they want an affirmative vision for what you're going to do for them, not just attacking the other person. in the end, i think that the voters are going to decide that hillary clinton is actually the one they can trust to be in their corner and fight for them. i saw in that poll, that cnn poll just out this morning, more voters decided that they were less likely to support donald trump based on last week's convention than more likely to. so i think there's a complicated story to be told in that poll. >> brian fallon, thank you for making the case. appreciate having you on "new day" always. >> thanks. >> so am i pretending you're sitting next to me or pretending you're somewhere completely different? >> pretend i'm sitting here. >> okay, good. sometimes when i toss to you, it's like we're not sitting together. >> this time we are sitting together. he's with her. virginia senator tim kaine making his big debut on the campaign trail with hillary clinton. we have the pros and cons on

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the state of the u.s. economy at the convention. but the son of republican nominee, donald trump, is suggesting to cnn's jake tapper that the country's unemployment rate does not reflect the real story. >> these are artificial numbers, jake. these are numbers that are massaged to make the existing economy to look good. when in fact, it is a total disaster. >> donald trump jr., exercised over this issue. let's bring in chief business correspondent, christine romans here at the cnn grill. nobody knows the numbers like christine romans and cnn money now. what do you make of the argument? >> sad to say, looking at these numbers. 9 million jobs have been created in the past four years, jobless rate has dropped from 10% to 4.9% now.

it is not tampered with. it is all very transparent. that headline number, 4.9%, it is the standard, chris. it is the standard economists and presidents of both parties use as an overall measure for joblessness. what is that number. of work, and the people who are out of work and looking for a new job. that by definition is what we're talking about here. the labor market, people looking for work or are working. that employment rate measures people in that labor market. it is all right there. it is all transparent. labor department releases pages and pages. education, race, time spent, unemployed. now, trump has claimed, chris, it is 25%, not 5% or 42%. he has said it really is depression era unemployment. that's just not true. what is true. millions of americans are not even in the labor market any more. that's true. you can see that in this number. this is a labor force

participation rate. it has been moving down. some of this is because of baby boomers. 10,000 of them everyday turn 65. other people are home with their kids. some people are not looking for a job because it costs too much for daycare. some people are on disability, going to college, aren't working. the labor market is very big, chris. but unemployed, the number of people who are unemployed, not everybody out of the labor market is unemployed. you're going to hear these accusations of massaging the numbers. it is not a scandal. it is statistics. >> it is not a scandal. it is statistics. christine roman, buttoning it down. thank you. >> you're welcome. virginia senator tim kaine is now under the microscope. what does the bring to the table, given hillary clinton's sinking numbers in our new cnn national poll. here to discuss, carl bernstein, author of "a woman in charge, the life of hillary clinton."

great to have you here. >> good to be here. >> it is fun for us in the media to talk about the vp pick. we look to go through it all. do voters care? does tim kaine move the needle? >> the candidate can make a difference. kaine brings positives to her campaign, particularly his ability to win virginia, perhaps. which is absolutely necessary. he can go into florida, be helpful there. his background, he is a son of a working class family. he can help in the industrial midwest. and he is very comfortable as a progressive, even though he is more to the center of the democratic party. >> you can call hem a progressi -- him a progressive? >> yes, the dime of the water gate brak break in, i was covering his father-in-law, a great republican progressive governor. and kaine has this in genes.

he believes in racial justice. he has been a jesuit missionary. in the catholic church, great social teaching, et cetera. he is the real deal in terms of walking the walk, doing the work. and standing for good things. the problem is hillary's negatives because of the server. >> have you ever heard of 68% saying that you're not trustworthy? >> no. she has brought most of it on herself because of what she did with the server, which was indefensible, reckless, and might indeed have endangered national security. i'm not one to give candidates advice. but my guess is that there is something anecdotal that i'm picking up, other reporters are, that people might want to see in hillary clinton some measure of contrition about this huge error that she has made of judgment.

and what is not being said by brian fallon or in fact by kaine sitting down with her the other day, there is still push back as if she is the victim of the vast right wing. >> give me -- >> i don't know how you do it. >> that's the trick. >> it is the trick. but my guess is that the american people would be relieved to see hillary clinton do something that indicates introspection, which is somewhat foreign to her, and contrition. but how you do it, i do not know. it is a huge problem, because there is only one issue, which they're right about, you see the president coming here. donald trump's fitness, his unfitness to be the president of the united states, is the single biggest issue in this campaign. she has to get off of her distrust and make that with the president, with mike bloomberg, you're going to see it. you're going to see a unified -- >> that parallels to the wiki leak stuff. the russians hacking e-mails.

>> i don't know that it pails. i doubt that it does. look, watch what trump did in that meeting with his supporters, talking about lee harvey oswald and ted cruz's father. >> ""the national enquirer," they should win a pulitzer." >> it is not just his temperament, it is his stability. there are real questions about his stability. what we saw was a mythological country, described in his speech in which, you know, rapists, terrorists are taking over the country. criminals, murderers, and a mythological donald trump, the myth of trump, the master builder, he has run a company, and actually about 3,000 different companies are incorporated in the structure of

what he runs, that fraud, look at trump university. look at his -- >> that's now how voters see it. all the polls we have out this morning show he did get a bump. >> of course he did. it is a very effective -- >> they responded to him. >> of course they did. he is a demagogue. it is a convention and the job of the press to stay focused on the reality of both these candidates, and what they've done in their lives, in their career, and their records. and we are great at analysis. we are great at debates and covering the horse race and polls. we are not great at going back day after day and looking at their records. and both of them need to be examined that way everyday by all of us up here. >> amen, carl bernstein. amen. thank you very much. appreciate you being here. you make us better. >> thanks, carl. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it.

saying it loud and proud. i'm with her. >> what i suggested to be true six months ago turns out to be true. the dnc trying to undermine my campaign. >> we're going to get bernie voters. >> you want a trash talking president or bridge building president. >> senator tim kaine is everything that donald trump and mike pence are not. >> the legacy of hillary clinton, death, destruction and weakness. >> in philadelphia, we will offer a very different vision for our country. >>announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning, july 25, 8:00 in the east now.

guess where alisyn and i are? philadelphia. democratic national convention begins today. but there is so much news going on about the convention, but also, outside of it. we have these new poll numbers that show what happened after the republican national convention. donald trump didn't just get a bounce. he got a big bounce. you're looking at our new cnn national poll. trump now leads clinton by 3 points in a two-way race. it is a ten point swing since our last poll before the convention. >> this is the biggest post convention bounce since the 2000 election, and it comes as the democrats deal with the controversy over some leaked e-mails from the dnc. also, new questions about whether the russians are behind it, and trying to influence our presidential race. so we have every angle covered.

manu. >> reporter: good morning, that e-mail controversy costing debbie wasserman schultz her job, as chairwoman of the democratic national committee. now, today, debbie wasserman schultz will speak to her florida delegation this morning, and later, to the actual full convention. we'll see just how bernie sanders supporters greet her when she talks in this convention hall. this much is clear. this democratic convention is starting off with quite a bit of drama. >> i'm with her. i'm with her. >> reporter: democratic national chairwoman, debbie wasserman schultz, forced to resign amid a massive e-mail leak, showing dnc staffers favoring hillary clinton over bernie sanders during the democratic primary. more than 1,000 sanders supporters marching in philadelphia in protest. sanders himself, who has been

calling for wasserman schultz resignation for months, telling cnn he is not surprised that the dnc was working against him. >> it is an outrage and sad that would you have people in important positions in the dnc trying to undermine my campaign. >> reporter: clinton's campaign manager pointing his finger at russian hackers, suggesting they had a hand in the leaks. >> experts are saying that they are -- the russians are releasing these e-mails for the purpose of helping donald trump. >> reporter: trump's campaign chairman, flatly denying the suggestion. >> i mean, it's just absurd. i don't know what you're talking about. it's crazy. >> reporter: on capitol hill, debbie wasserman schultz had few defenders. telling senate minority leader was pushing for weeks to replace her, including at one point, floating his number two, dick durbin as a replacement. the interim chair will be donna brazile, al gore's campaign

manager and cnn political analyst. brazile, who has ties with clinton and sander, warned democrats that friday's leak may just be the tip of the iceberg. >> more e-mails are coming. i don't know the substance, but i do know there are lots of stuff that we might have to apologize for. >> trump, quick to pounce on the turmoil. posting this tweet. the democrats are in a total meltdown, but the bias media will say how great they're doing. e-mails say the rigged system is alive and well. this scandal, threatening to shatter the uneasy truth between sanders progressive base and the party establishment. ahead of today's convention themed united together. where bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and michelle obama will headline the first night. the controversy, also ov overshadowing the vice-presidential pick, virginia

tim kaine. the newly minted ticket, sitting down for their first interview together, keeping their focus squarely on the republicans. >> i don't know what their convention was about, other than criticizing me. i seem to be the only unifying theme that they had. >> reporter: kaine showing he is ready to defend his running mate on the campaign trail. >> when i see this, you know, crooked hillary or the lock her up, it is just ridiculous. it is ridiculous. look, most of us stopped the name-calling thing about fifth grade. >> reporter: the poll numbers causing great alarm and democratic circles this morning. expect them to pull out all the stop this is week to try to disqualify donald trump in the eyes of voters, and also talk up hillary clinton with speeches ranges from mike bloomberg, the former new york mayor as well as barack obama, alisyn. >> okay, manu, thank you for setting all that up. here to discuss is missouri

senator, cleaire mccastle. was rushle behind the leak? >> i don't think there is any question. in the mega data, russian computers, experts are saying it was russia. it is no question they're doing this to try to impact our elections. >> why? >> because they want donald trump to win. >> what makes you so confident about that? >> they understand there is this relationship. you have close relationship between his campaign manager, paul manafort, and one of the biggest -- >> ushanko. >> and they're like this, with putin. you have this bromance going on, commitment to our allies. that's unheard of. somebody running for president, would actually say people from france and england maybe can't come to our country, and by the way, we're not sure we're going support nato against russia in

aggression. it's really amazing to me. i think it is very clear that russia is doing this. >> last night, paul manafort said the idea that the democrats would suggest that the trump campaign is somehow motivating russia to do this is -- shows desperation. let me play this for you and. >> they're getting desperate early in the game. i mean, yeah, they should be concerned about the leaks from the democratic national committee. it put the democratic national committee at risk and exposed the fact it was a rigged primary system against bernie sanders. the fact that we're having the conversation is the -- >> basically he is saying it is a red herring, no pun intended to move away from the content of the dnc e-mails, which is damning for the democrats. >> listen, i understand that what was in the e-mails was not great. i mean, it obviously showed that there were some people at the dnc that were really wanting hillary clinton to win the

primary. but i don't find anything in e-mails that show they did anything to put their finger on the scale in terms of how the voting was done, or how the primaries were actually conducted. >> that's impossible to believe the lack of relationship, right? if somebody has a preference, a bias, any way you want to term it, how can you not assume their actions reflect that. >> i get that. but debbie is stepping down. we're going be united. bernie sanders will give a -- there will be no cruz tonight with bernie sanders. bernie sanders will endorse hillary clinton. and he will say how important it is that we all work for hillary clinton. we will be united. it will not be like the republican convention, where the number one candidate against donald trump refused to say his name. >> does tim kaine help reel in the supporters, or is he not seen as progressive enough. >> as they get to know him, it will make a difference. i mean this a guy that took a

year off of law school and went to honduris. i'm not sure there are many who do that. but tim kaine did. he is all about social justice. he is all about the least among us, and making sure that we are helping others. he has had a life of service. that's the values that the bernie campaign embrace. as they get to know him, they're going to be surprised how much his value system matches up to how much they care about helping the poor. >> when you look at this bump in the polls, the history is all over the place. in the last few cycles, there haven't been that many bumps. this is an impressive bump for trump. we are where we are right now. the number that pops, it might be the biggest correlation, not just the convention, it is hillary clinton's 68% negative rating when it comes to trust. is that just baked in at this point? do you think you can do anything

to change how people feel about whether or not they can trust. >> i think people just slow down for a minute and realize she has been in the crosshairs for decades. every scar she got while she was serving the public, and she has been targetsed for decades by -- >> the question is why, senator? the e-mail scandal. somebody didn't set her up. >> no, i understand. i think this convention will help people see the other side of her. the public policy side that has driven her in terms of issues about children and families. i think there will be a lot of validation of who she is as a person. at the end, you've got two candidates that have high negatives. people are going to have to decide which person do i want making the decisions about our national security. which is the person i want making the decisions in a complex world about how we help the middle class. i think she is going to be just fine. >> carl bernstein was just on and he felt mation more

contrition, maybe the american public hasn't seen herb apologetic enough, or relate on that level from what they're looking for from her. will we see that from her or just moving forward? >> you know, i think if she -- if we do a good job this week, of talking about her life, and what she has done in her life, and if she does a good job on thursday, explaining her positive vision, her optimistic positive vision, i think it will be a contrast to the anger and the fear that we saw last week. >> here is an angle. donald trump has said on many occasions, on the record, i've never asked god for forgiveness. i never needed to. this a man who will not apologize. >> for anything. >> hillary clinton -- >> he has a lot to apologize for. >> maybe, maybe not. that's for people to decide. but for hillary clinton, what a change that would be, compared to him, if she were to come forward and say, you know, this e-mail thing, i've talked about it, but not enough.

i know what you think about it. i know you believe that i was lying about aspects of asking for permission, and how many devices. you know what, i was. here is what i did. here is why i did it. i'm not him. i'm different. i know that's risky. i know politicians don't like to do that. you're looking at my like i had too much bacon and laces with something. is there anything chance? >> she has said she made mistake about the e-mail. she has said it over and over again. and i think that this is one of those things where you have to look at what was her intent. no one has ever, ever been able to put on hillary clinton an intent to do wrong to this country. ever. there has never been in a time that anyone can really accuse her of having a malintent toward the united states. hopefully she'll be able to show how much she cares about this country and the good things she'll do and a contrast to the fact free zone that we saw in cleveland. >> i thought you were talking

about the show first. how dare you. >> cleveland. >> claire, thank you so much. >> you bet. we're following breaking news that we want to get to to tell you about. there has been a deadly shooting outside a nightclub in for the meyers florida. the youngest person was just 12 years old, and cnn boris sanchez will explain. he is live at the scene with the breaking details. what have you learned? >> reporter: hey, good morning, alisyn. this all started shortly after midnight, from what we understand, the club was hosting an all ages event where no i.d. was required to go in. the way the club officials are describing it, a middle school, high school party. shortly after it let out, about 12:15, here in the parking lot as students were calling for their parents to pick them up, that's when the shots were fired. this is still a very active scene. police are still here processing evidence. you see all the evidence markers. those are shell casings from

bullets, way more than a dozen, at least two dozen here on the scene. this is just one of three scenes that officials are working right now. another is a nearby home where shots were fired at the home and a car there. one person was injured. we also know they're processing a local intersection, where one of three people, three persons of interest, were detained. so far, officials haven't said much about them. they haven't called them suspects, either. clearly, there is a lot of questions here. specifically, a motive. we know the three people that were detained were all adults. many of the victims were young. you mentioned the youngest is 12 years old. we know the oldest is 27. a very young crowd. we know they were in varying degrees of health. some are in icu and in grave condition. clearly, a lot of hope being poured into to hoping they pull through as investigators look through the evidence. alisyn. >> just terrible, boris. keep us posted on everything you learn this morning. thank you for the reporting. back here in philadelphia, the curtain raising on the

democratic convention. what pairs to be another e-mail controversy, as we've been talking about. were party leaders ignoring warning signs from bernie sanders, and what does it mean for hillary clinton. our panel weighs in on all of it, next. is going for more buffalo cauliflower. (mind-blowing sound) everybody's a veggie lover now. what do you think? (mind-blowing sound) mind blown. bird's eye flavor full. so veggie good.

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philadelphia all week. the democratic national convention gets underway in just a few hours. but now, the fbi is investigating a suspected russian hacking of the dnc

e-mail system. are russians trying to influence our presidential race. let's discuss this and so much more with andre bauer, the former go form former governor of south carolina. and bill beckle, as well as christine quinn, political commentator and advice chair of the new york state democratic party. great to have you all here. >> thank you. >> were the russians behind this hack? >> i haven't seen any proof of it, but to me, again, it seems look a diversion of the real issue, and the real issue, was the collaboration of democratic party to try to help one candidate over another. >> they say there is meda data that it went through russian computers. so the technology side says there is evidence that the russians were involved. >> you know, if you guys are spending as much time as you worry about your party as you do ours, i mean, seriously. take care of your own e-mails, will you. >> theirs haven't been leaked

yet. i'm sure reince priebus, you know, would have loved to have been super delegates, and probably tons of conversations about their agony over trump, at least in the early stages. here is the difference, bob, they're not out there. >> not yet. >> and yours are. christine, this is what bernie sanders was saying. they don't like me. they're all insiders, they want to keep their clubhouse nice and cozy with hillary clinton. and now we see the e-mails and that seems true. >> look, these e-mails are e-mails within the dnc, with the staff at the dnc. they're not between hillary's campaign and the dnc. there is no evidence that shows that -- although there may have been ill will and people have opinions of other people. there is nothing that shows they did -- >> they don't do anything about it. >> there is no evidence that will is interoffice chat, albeit inappropriate, and what happened yesterday really speaks to how this campaign is going to get run and the integrity of the

democratic process. a problem was pointed out. debbie wasserman schultz took responsibility, and will be stepping down after the convention. >> shocked that 1,000 people on staff that someone like sanders and someone likes clinton. what's the big deal. they didn't take action. she is stepping down after the convention, and making a job out of it. she is not stepping down before the convention. >> there is no indication she is getting a job. she is stepping down right after the convention. >> there is chat that she'll get the honorary chair thing. that will be coordinated through the campaign. >> you don't think she'll be working on any part of hillary clinton's campaign after this? >> she has her own campaign. she has to go back to florida. >> is that a no, christine? >> might there be a paper title, i doubt it, but that's not really working. >> the demise of the super delegates is the guy who was there at the beginning of the

super delegates and came forward, did a brilliant, got them altogether, your old man was part of that, and it worked. >> that's why it was brilliant. >> it is a sad passing. >> well, it was about why it was done there and talking to my father about it, he had big questions going forward about whether or not it was going to be an abused system. just so you know. >> i listened to him. i heard him. >> bernie sanders may have been the nominee hr, had there not b home cooking. >> there is nothing in those e-mails that show the race was any way tilted or impacted against senator sanders. there is nothing -- >> that's not what donald trump says. >> well, donald trump -- >> that's not what donald trump says. >> what donald trump is usually not true. so that only backs up my fact there. but what i think is really important to note is senator sanders, before the release of the e-mails, post the release of the e-mails, is standing with secretary clinton. a big comparison to the rnc

where ted cruz got on stage and did anything but support donald trump. >> they don't you nunanimously their brains at the door. >> you should tell trump to -- tim kaine is a wonderful guy. but listen to this -- when donald trump brings in illegal labor to finish his buildings, doesn't pay his subcontractors. it is going to brutal. >> sends jobs to china, when he talks about bringing jobs to america. >> more on trade. >> he signed up for the gig. it is not our fault. >> donald trump has been having a field day with the e-mail stuff. he has been tweeting up a storm. i'll read one of them. the new joke in town is that russia leaked the disaster e-mails which should have never been written, stupid, because putin likes me. you know, there is a connection between is putin trying to

somehow influence our presidential candidate. >> putin's candidate is trump. look, everybody is entitled to a candidate. >> what is your evidence of that? >> they're bros. they talk about it all the time. >> there were statements last week during the rnc from high-level advisors to putin, saying clearly, they would prefer the candidate to be donald trump. why wouldn't they? >> defend your man, andre. >> he is talking about getting rid of nato, opening doors, if you think about, for russia to take over more. >> here is the problem, okay. the russia, the intrigue, e-mails, what's in them, what isn't. this poll that comes out that shows trump breaking 40%, he is at 48%. he got a bounce after the convention, 68%, bob, say i don't trust hillary clinton. i've never heard of a number that high before. >> how about the other guy? >> not as high as that. >> look at his unqualified number. >> we know these bounces last

about three weeks and they'll be gone. the question is when you get into the fall when they really matter, you've got to go state by state. is donald trump with 30% of the electorate going to be people with color. >> who will -- >> his numbers are on the rise and hill vary is spending tens d millions of dollars beating him up. the one not taking the hit numbers are going up. the exact opposite is happening. >> there is always a bump. >> it was a terrible convention and still got an credible -- >> i don't think -- >> you guys take this over to the grill and -- >> happy birthday. thank you for spending your morning with us. >> thank you. >> you spun it as best you could. >> double-team, that's not fair. that's why i helped you out. christine, enjoy. outgoing chair debbie wasserman schultz, rocking the start of this convention, by

announcing plans to step down. not now, but after the convention. still, she will get a chance to speak to fellow democrats, so this is going to be the first time that we see something like this heading into a convention. this e-mail controversy. what is the chairwoman going to say? next. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. get back to great. all hp ink buy one get one fifty percent off. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. when heartburn comes creeping up on you. fight back with relief so smooth and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums smoothies, only from tums.

wasserman schultz is stepping down at the end of the week, after the leaked e-mails show party officials were biased in the primary against bernie sanders. wasserman schultz will gavel in the convention and expected to make her first appearance any minute now when she addresses delegates from her home state. m.j. lee is live at the breakfast in downtown philadelphia. tell us, set the scene for us. >> reporter: hey, alisyn. interestingly, even though debbie wasserman schultz is going to resign from her position at the end of the convention, she is sticking to her schedule for the time being, as she is supposed to speak at the convention later today, and

behind me, she is going to be addressing the florida delegation at a previously scheduled breakfast. she hasn't arrived yet. i can tell you, alisyn, speaking to some of the members of the florida delegation here there are plenty of sanders supporters, who are worked up about the controversy, and says debbie wasserman schultz should have resigned sooner, and say the e-mails that became public actually confirm their suspicious shun that the dnc was always favoring hillary clinton, and actually one floridian i spoke to, who is a supporter of wasserman schultz said why she had to step down. the question for democrats going forward, chris, is whether or not some of the anger at debbie wasserman schultz and the dnc will end up spilling over onto the convention floor. this, of course, is the last thing the clinton camp wants as it gets ready for hillary clinton to accept the nomination later this week. chris. >> you certainly nailed the

right question, m.j. we'll check back with you, let us know what happens once she comes to the podium. to be sure, they're hoping bernie sanders speaks tonight on the first night of the convention. will put this to rest. can he. let's discuss with wisconsin senator tammy baldwin. she has endorsed hillary clinton. and interestingly, good to have you, senator. >> great to be here. >> you're in the same class, 2012, as vice-presidential nominee, tim kaine, or presumptive nominee. we'll see what happens when he gets nominated. let's deal with the bad news first. should debbie wasserman schultz have stepped down right away, because of what was revealed in the e-mails? >> you know, i think she did the right thing. i think everyone wants this convention to be focused on hillary clinton, her new vice-presidential pick. and to move forward. so i think this is just the right move. >> but she is not leaving until after the convention, which obviously compromises the whole

sale sailnature of the e-mails. >> we're going to hear tonight from bernie sanders. i expect him, as he has in the past several weeks, to give a full throated endorsement to secretary clinton, and to talk about how the party must unify. and you know, i think that's what is going to happen. that's what you're going to see this week. i'm really looking to starting this convention on that very positive note. >> so that means you're going to have to deal with this and spin it positive to sander supporters. they come up to you sand say senator, this is what was going on, these people at the dnc, they didn't like us, and they were motivated to try to slow us. they were supposed to be impartial and weren't. what do you say? >> i say is that we had a primary in the democratic party. there are democrats who supported bernie. there are democrats who supported hillary. whether they work in parties or rank and file across the country, and this is the convention we're coming together

to elect secretary clinton, and to draw the contrast between democrats and republicans. between hillary clinton and donald trump. between vice-presidential nominee tim kaine and mike pence. this is what we're focused on this convention. >> all right, so tim kaine -- >> whether you supported hillary or bernie, the big differences are between the two parties and the future. they're looking backwards last week, we are looking forward. we're about opportunity. helping people get ahead. >> all right, so let's say they accept that answer. >> yeah. >> now the second step is tim kaine, i get it, he is supposed to be a nice guy, catholic, missionary, i get it. but i am a sanders supporter and i wanted somebody who represents what i'm supposed to be about. i thought this was going to be a balanced ticket. ace big trade guy. he supports t approximatpp. he is not aggressive enough. >> i would look at his record. before he was in public office

on siecivil right, dedicating h life to social justice, and also, in his role in the senate, and i want to first of all, agree with you. he is a really nice guy. i very much enjoy serving with him. beyond that, he has been one of the clearest voices about the congress of the united states needing to authorize the use of military -- >> we've spoken about it with him on "new day" many times. can't you guys -- can't get you to debate it. >> all democrats need to embrace clarity there that has not existed because the republicans who control both houses of congress aren't willing to take this on. >> that's a complicated issue, right shall, because it -- >> it is, all the issues we're dealing with. >> but this one, it seems clear what is has been going on. congress doesn't want to own a declaration of war, they don't want to own the strategy of isis. both ways, let the president have unfetterred discretion,

which he is not supposed to have under the constitution, and if you don't like it, you can criticize. that's for another day. now it comes to why clinton and not trump. so you come to this conclusion. you see the polls. 68% say i don't trust hillary clinton. i can't trust her. how do you make her the better candidate than donald trump with that big high negative? >> first of all, i have to say that i trust her. you know, i come from wisconsin. i have been on the ground in my state getting ready for these fall elections, and i would tell you that our democrats and others are really unifying behind her. so you know, i feel very strongly. i also think that bernie's speech tonight will be very important in terms of building that trust and that endorsement. but she has been attacked mercilessly, not just for the last week, the republican

convention, she has been attacked and attacked and attacked over decades. >> question is why? >> well, i think it is because, like kevin mccarthy said, we have this investigatory panel that we set up in the house of representatives, so we can lower her poll numbers. i mean, he -- >> he said he misspoke. there were no bon go-- benghazi you wouldn't have the hearings. >> that hearing, with here between 8 and 11 hours, answering every question, mostly without notes, because it is such a simple set of answers, she knows the answers. and she has withstood that thing over and over again. so i think throughout this convention, what you're going here in stark contrast to last week, which is all attacks on hillary clinton, is about such a positive vision moving forward, and about substance, policy, and

about the difference between our moving forward and the republicans looking backwards. >> we look forward to seeing you make the case. senator baldwin. thank you for being on "new day" as always. so we're talking about hillary clinton, of course, her opponent is donald trump, and he is enjoying this recent situation with wikileaks. it came out a couple of months ago, but now we know what was in the e-mails. he is giving her running mate a familiar sounding name. corrupt kaine, says donald trump. what does this mean to tim kaine. how will he fight back? he is up to the task? by give you some insight ahead. ? a bold group of researchers and computer scientists in silicon valley, had a breakthrough they called... the machine. it changed computing forever. and it's been part of every new technology for the last 250 years. everything? everything!

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democratic national convention, kicking off today, with four big headliners tonight. we have new jersey senator cory booker, first lady michelle obama, massachusetts senator, elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. how will they make the case for clinton and kaine. here to discuss what's coming up, cnn political contributor hilary rosen, a political

contributor and matt lewis. great to see both of you tonight. okay -- >> that's just the first night. >> that is just the first night. >> matt, you as a conservative, having just come off the republican national convention, where they did not have a lot of political marquee names, but a lot of celebrity in terms of the trump children and donald trump, do you think people care about big name politicians? >> well, i think the people in the hall will. when the president of the united states comes out and the first lady, that is star power. this is star celebrities for people who are political junkies. i think it is almost the opposite of the republican party. the republicans had more unity in the hall, but less unity on the stage. what happened with ted cruz. i think what we're going to see with the democratics is a lot of unity on stage. elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, basically hugging hillary clinton. my question is, what about the delegates in the hall. how do they react, do they boo.

that's going to be the story for me. >> you think bernie sanders coming on tonight settles this for his supporters, or are you concerned about there being a mini inserecution. >> we're democrats, we're messy. it is the nature of our party. what you're going to see, progressive leaders of the party, cory booker as well, you're going to see a progressive case made for hillary clinton, a progressive case for unity, progressive case for donald trump. and i do think it is going to settle it in this regard. bernie sanders did not win this primary. hillary clinton won the primary. and everybody has a unified desire to beat donald trump. >> is tim kaine a progressive? i mean, bernie sanders supporters don't think he is progressive enough. >> people don't know tim kaine. tim kaine is a long time civil rights worker.

he took on cases on housing discrimination early in his career. he has done so many things that progressives can feel proud about, and so i think you're going to see progressive leaders, union leaders, planned parenthood, teachers, dockworkers. like, people are going to be for tim kaine and that's going to help. >> matt, do you want to put money on whether or not michelle obama mentions melania trump or a joke about it? >> if it is mentioned, it will be a joke. i don't know you attack melania. making fun of it, like -- >> what's the chance? >> i give it only 20% chance. >> no way. no way. >> you give it a zero. >> michelle obama is not going to make fun of melania trump. >> not make fun of her, but you may have heard this before, but -- >> a roast. >> it is a political convention. these are the pettiest people on the face of the planet.

politicians going at it with each other. >> here is the exciting this inc. about michelle obama, other than the fact that she is hugely popular, she knows what it is like to be in that intense scrutiny and in that bubble. she is the first lady, advocating for sort of the substantive political crowning of another former first lady. that's a cool story. >> how big a deal is it the d distinction of bernie sanders coming out i endorse her, she won fair and square. >> or maybe he'll go rogue like ted cruz. >> versus what happened with cruz. how big a difference, how much does it bother you that they'll have something you didn't have. >> liberals are collective. they tend to fall in line. that's the opposite of what you were saying, right. the whole will lodgerogers, i a democratic. there is something to it. bernie and elizabeth warren will be good soldiers and the republican party is having more

turmoil at least at the elected level. i have to tell you, 43% of the fledg pledged delegates are bernie supporters. if they're revolting against tim kaine, it will be ugly. you know, i think we're going to talk about it. it is going to get talked about it. >> a couple of hundred people will protest, but there are millions of bernie sanders supporters who want to see hillary clinton over donald trump. >> we'll have you guys back about what happens tonight. >> that's 100%. we'll be talking about it. >> you can bet on that. a new york times op he had, raising a provocative question. is donald trump a racist. you're going to be surprised at what actually comes out in the column. we have nick christoff joining us next. and zero for 72 is back! on 2016 ford focus,

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it is interesting. sometimes a question itself is so provocative, it makes you think about whether or not it should be asked. is donald trump a racist. it is a ridiculously provocative question to be sure. but new york times columnist, nick kristof took it on, raises the question in a new op-ed and we have him with us from new york. why did you take on this question, you know the heat the suggestion brings among his supporters. what were you going for and where did you come out on it?

>> first of all, i do think race is is a loaded word. we should be careful about tossing it around in a political season. so i wanted to go back and look at the evidence. so i looked back over 45 years, and i mean, frankly, it's pretty devastating. i started in the 1970s, when the nixon white house, which was not a famous champion of civil rights exactly, sued the trump organization of which donald was then the president, for systematically denying blacks access to the apartments that the trump organization owned. you weighed through more than 1,000 pages from this lawsuit, and it repeatedly shows that white tester would go to a trump apartment, and the shown several apartments immediately available. a black person, as a tester would go and be told nothing was available. trump employees said that

applications for apartments by black people were coded, c for colored. so the central office would know to deny them. >> so nicholas, so that was in the '70s, so you went back and looked at these reams and reams of documentation and shown discrimination being practiced at the trump rel statial estate did you find? >> it continues. casino worker who was black says when donald trump visited the casino in atlantic city, the blacks would all be taken off the floor and herded into a back room. the former president of the trump casino in atlantic city wrote a 1991 book in which he talked about donald trump trying to get him to fire a black accountant, saying he doesn't want blacks to count his money. saying that blacks are --

>> what? >> lazy. >> the account is out there where sfoupposedly trump said i only want certain people counting my money. the counter is, very hard to pin down. that guy never came forward. and when you get to people close around trump, and who have known him, they say he isn't a racist and that you're talking about things that an organization did, many organizations do them. it doesn't make them right. but doesn't make him a racist. your take? >> in any one incident, i think there is ambiguity, but where you have pattern for 45 years in the real estate business and the real estate company that trump headed, then in the casinos, then more recently, you know, we have trump this year twice retweeting a tweet from white

genocide with the nazi party. i think it is fair to provide some leeway, but over 45 years, you simply see this consistent pattern, and i don't know what else to call what emerges, except racism. >> i don't know. nicholas, it is -- i hear you. you did the investigation. you looked back at all the documentation. but it's just hard to know what is in somebody's heart and in somebody's head and to sort of be able to conclude that. but tell us, i mean -- >> so -- >> tell us more about your case. you talked about how he acted in the casino, what did you find more recently. >> let me just address that. there are two elements of racism. what is in people's hearts, whether they believe whether their race is superior to others. and that is very difficult to know. the other element is a systematic tendency to discriminate against people of other races. and i think that is precisely

what emerges in the trump real estate empire, and the casino empire. more recently, as a politician in these episodes. i mean, and then essentially, that goes back to 1989, the central park five where you had blacks and latinos arrested for particularly horrific crime, and eventually exonerated, but at the time, trump purchased full page ads, calling for the death penalty, and helped whip up the crowds that in effect created something of a modern lynching. >> but just to give him his best defense, that's what fairness demands, many people felt that way. that was a case that mischaracterized the facts and led to a prejudicial effect in the system as you and i both know. you have what he said in his speech the other night, where he said these kids and these minority communities, they deserve every right to live out their dreams. does it give you a more clear

picture or cloudy? >> for example, it is true there was a lot of alarm over the central park five case. but the mayor at the time, ed koch, was calling for peace. trump went out of his way to criticize koch's call. when the central park five were exonerated, trump criticized them, and said that they, you know, that they had other sins. and again, i wouldn't make so much of one case, whether it is central park five case, whether it is retweeting these white genocide posts, whether it is real estate, but when you time after time, over 45 years, have somebody who is consistent actions and statements lead to this kind of discrimination, i don't know what else to make of that. >> everybody can read your piece for themselves. it was in the sunday "new york times." thank you for being on "new

day." nice to talk to you. >> good to be with you. newsroom with carol costello begins after this break. >> do you want to run the rocky steps. >> let's do it. >> you won't do it.

and good morning, we're live in philadelphia, pennsylvania. thank you so much for joining me. my name is carol costello. we're at the site of the democratic national convention. thank you so much. it is another e-mail scandal, rocking the democratic party. any minute, outgoing democratic chair, debbie wasserman schultz, speaks for the first time since abruptly resigning as the leader of her party. she has brought down by leaked e-mails showing her dnc