mayor megan barry of nashville, tennessee, thanks for coming in as well. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room" and all night long we'll be bringing you the latest from the democratic national convention. our special coverage continues right now. here we go. we are live in philadelphia. pretty pictures of the skyline here as we swoop on across to the set just outside of the cnn grill on this third day of the democratic national convention. great to be with you on this wednesday. i'm brooke baldwin. let's begin with this. in a matter of hours the nation will see president barack obama do his part to try to make a case to try to help democrats make history for a second time. the first time this happened when the party's first -- with the party's first female nominee. the second time everyone in this

convention is hoping will be november 8th when the election of hillary rodham clinton as the first woman president. president obama is to cap a night of major heavyweight speakers including, in order of appearance, we'll be looking for vice president joe biden, former new york mayor michael bloomberg, and clinton's running mate, senator tim kaine of virginia. president obama is legislated to speak some time after that 10:00 eastern mark. prime time for him. make no mistake, the president has a lot riding on this, not just for his party but for himself. his legacy. his last eight years. his pitch for hillary clinton is also about preserving just that, his legacy. for more on what the president is expected to say, we'll begin with our white house correspondent jim acosta. jim, how does he walk the line between promoting hillary clinton but also defending his eight years? >> reporter: right.

he is the surrogate in chief, no question about it. what you'll hear from president obama tonight i think is a defense of hillary clinton, why she is the most qualified person to be president in his view and view of the democratic party, why she is a continuation of his policies, how she is best equipped to defend his legacy, protect his legacy. that is in some measure a direct response to those bernie sanders supporters who are still uncomfortable with supporting hillary clinton. then i think finally what he's going to do, there's going fob some kind of pushback and rejection of trumpism. whether or not he cites donald trump by name. he doesn't do that very often. or whether he does it obliquely in the way that michelle obama did the other night remains to be seen. i think other question about the president's speech tonight is whether or not he gets into what donald trump talked about earlier today at this press conference here in miami, florida, when he talked about russia potentially being able to hack into hillary clinton's e-mails and revealing those to the public.

so no firm answer from the white house as to whether the president's remarks will be tweaked to address that. but it certainly is something that people will be listening for tonight. >> let's talk more about, you alluded to it, the news conference and all the questions and the controversial comments made by mr. trump. here's a piece of it, in case you missed it. >> why do i have to get involved with putin for? i don't know putin. i don't know anything about him other than he will respect me. he doesn't respect our president. if it is russia -- which it is probably not. nobody knows who it is. but if it is russia, it's really bad for a different reason. because it shows how little respect they have for our country when they would hack into a major party and get everything. but it would be interesting to see -- i will tell you this. russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.

i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. >> on that, hillary clinton's campaign has responded to precisely what you just heard, to mr. trump's call for russia finding her 30,000 or so missing e-mails. i can tell you that her senior policy advisor, jake sullivan, says, i'm quoting him, "this has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. he goes on -- that's not hyperbole, those are just the facts. this has gone from being a matter of curiosity and a matter of politics to being a national security issue. and, i want you to listen to former cia director leon panetta who just talked to my colleague, christiane amanpour. >> i find those kinds of statements to be totally outrageous, because you've got now a presidential candidate who

is in fact asking the russians to engage in american politics. and i just think that that's beyond the pale. there are a lot of concerns i have with his qualities of leadership, or lack thereof. and i think that kind of statement only reflects the fact that he truly is not qualified to be president of the united states. >> let's jump right in to it. howard wilson with me, new york deputy mayor under michael bloomberg who is set to speak this evening. senior cnn political analyst, david gergen. scottie hughes, a trump supporter. and cnn anchor hala gorani from london. howard, first to you on what trump said about hillary's i mails directing that to russia. how dangerous is that? >> i think very dangerous. i think that we should reasonably expect that there should be a broad consensus in

our politics, whether you are republican or democrat, that it is not a good idea to invite or encourage the leader of a foreign power to break our laws and engage in espionage. i mean that seems to basic obviously putting it that way, yet here we have a major party nominee who is in fact encouraging a leader of a foreign power who is either our antagonist or our adversary or competitor, depending on your perspective. but clearly not somebody who is our best friend -- to engage in this kind of behavior. it is really unprecedented. we spend a lot of time talking about donald trump's unprecedented comments and his positions, but this is just the latest one. >> scottie, espionage. how do you defend that? >> well, it is not defending because there's nothing there. hillary clinton -- let's be clear what this is all about. this is about an illegal server that was not given permission for that she knew she did not have permission for. talk about unprecedented, you have the leader of a democratic party under fbi investigation. that's the issue here. this is just trying to distract

them. >> he asked russia, who is not a friend, to cyber attack, espionage, hack into hillary's e-mails. >> that means that they're there. hillary already said she deleted 33,000 e-mails. they're not there. this just shows right now whoever if they have any access to them. hillary has time and time again said it was just yoga, cookie recipes, her wedding plans. obviously not, especially considering -- this is all to detract from the idea that hillary clinton did an illegal action, she knew what she was doing and she should have been prosecuted by the fbi in the first place. >> david gergen, weigh in please, sir. >> well, i must tell you, it is bizarre. at first when i heard him, i thought this must be a poor, tasteless joke. he's saying, hey, russians, as long as you're hacking us anyway, why don't you see if you can find hillary clinton's missing e-mails. nobody else can, see if you can do it. that's a terrible joke. but if that's serious, it is outrageous. he's crossed way over the line and it is the second time in a

week he's done things that are dangerous to national security. first time was on nato. when he want to north carolina and doubled down on his unwavering xhichlt on nunwaver ing commitment on nato, our most powerful alliance in the world. you know, think about how carefully the british tried to resolve the issue of brexit. he carefully says we're going to walk out of nato. that's what dangerous about this. that's where i think he leaves himself so vulnerable. your point is well-taken, but it still -- he has so many thoughts that are reckless that most people would hold to themselves and he just blurts them out. >> hala, is trump in cahoots with putin, he says he's never met him. what has the kremlin said in response to all of these allegations? >> the kremlin is essentially saying they, at their level, are in no way responsible for this. however, it appears as though russian hackers, whether they

are under the direct orders of the kremlin or whether they're acting unilaterally and independently, are behind this. but i want too talk a little bit about the i understand reaction here. as you mentioned, david, what he said to donald trump about nato has dismayed nato allies, especially baltic states. essentially in a "new york times" interview he was very clearly saying, unless you pay up, unless you pay your bills, we're not going to guarantee that we will come to your defense in case of russian aggression. he said that erdogan turned the coup around. you will all know that the aftermath of the coup has involved the arrest, depension or firing of more than 60,000 suspected political opponents of erdogan. some of these comments that he's making are causing world leaders -- especially the u.s.' closest allies -- to think what will be in store for us if this man becomes president of the united states? and this is what being based in london i am hearing every single day. brexit, you mention brexit. he went to scotland and said to the scots, congratulations, you

just exited the uk. of course, scotland voted to remain in the uk and there is a very high chance that scotland will now conduct its own referendum and break away from the united kingdom, therefore completely changing the country from the united kingdom to just a conglom ration of possibly three states -- three nations rather than four. >> international repercussions here. hone in, howard, on his tax returns. he said he will not be releasing his tax returns. sort of within your political mind sphere. i am looking at you as well to weigh in. what do you think the top three reasons are why trump won't release them? >> just to speculate, he could have ties to the russians that we're not aware of. the russians could be significant investors in his companies. he said he doesn't have ownings in russia but he never said that they are not investing in him. he could have given essentially nothing to charity. "washington post" has done an awful lot of reporting on the fact that he makes a lot of

claims about the amount of money he gives to charity but essentially doesn't really follow through. so somebody with the kind of wealth that he claims to have if he gives no money to charity that would be an embarrassment. finally, he could probably -- it's possible that he doesn't really have the kind of wealth that he talks about. he is running on his business record, on his business beingac. >> first, if he did have russian ties, it would be on the front of the financial disclosures. it is not. he just admitted in that press conference, as much as you might try to slander him in that way, he admitted he had no ties. in fact the only candidate that does is hillary clinton who received $145 million from shareholders of uranium 1 when it was sold from canada to russia for the clinton global initiative. national security issue happened with hillary clinton's server in the first place. we would not be be in this situation today if there was not fear. we've already been told that the

dnc has been warned months ago that they potentially could be hacked in and they never said anything. when you talk about nato, you hit three different points here. the nato issue right there is one thing. he did say that he's going to get out of it, reenter it today in his press conference, he said he wanted to re-evaluate it. nato was first set up at 1942. what have those countries in nato done to help us? >> you were on tv last week, to the point that not everyone is paying on their equal share, is there any validity to that? >> the idea is that nato is not a business relationship. it is a strategic partner. >> what have they done for us? gl it is not a question of what nato does for the u.s. it is a question of what this group of allies will do to protect its own self-interests with regards to russia. that is now clearly invading countries like ukraine, annexing territories like crimea. they're certainly not on the same page. >> but russia is our biggest threat. >> hold on a second. what has nato done for us.

the early part of the 20th century, we went to war twice in europe because we got dragged in the middle of it. millions of americans either lost their husbands, their spouses, everything like that. >> absolutely. >> nato has kept the peace for 75 years. it's a big deal for the united states. it's kept us at peace. >> are we at peace though? we are in a war on terrorism. france is being attacked constantly because they've allowed their borders to be pierced. are they actually helping us in protecting our travelers that are going back and forth across borders. he didn't say he was withdrawing it. just renegotiate the terms and let them pay their fair share. >> they do pay 2% of their gdp. >> there are five countries that do. there are three times more that that do not. >> it is a perfectly fair issue to say they ought to pay their way. it is a very dangerous thing to throw a hand grenade into the

middle of nato to force the issue. most presidents do not do that. they are more prudent and they get results. ronald reagan could get results without having to go to war like this. >> he is not. he said i want to renegotiate. he has side time and time again he wants to stay in. >> let me ask howard with a very valid, healthy discussion, do you think president obama brings this very issue up this evening? >> oh, without a doubt. >> yes. >> i mean this is an issue of national security for the country. it is dangerous for a presidential candidate to suggest that the united states will not honor its treaty commitments even though he is not president. our allies hear that in a very adverse way. and suggesting that russia hack in to the server of one of the candidates running for president is a national security issue. i can't imagine the president of the united states not addressing a national security issue like this at his speech tonight. >> scottie, howard, hala, david,

thank you. next here, tonight marks what could be one of president obama's final massive public speeches as commander in chief. how much will he talk about his legacy versus what hillary clinton could do for this country? we'll explore that. also ahead, after saying donald trump would never be president, the president now changing his words, saying it is very possible. we'll have his precise quote for you. might this be a new strategy for the dems in getting folks out to the polls to vote for secretary clinton? and, breaking news today. all charges dropped in the remaining cases with those baltimore police officers accused in the death of freddie gray. now the backlash. i'm brooke baldwin live in philadelphia. lots more in the next two hours here. cnn's special live coverage continues after this. you both have a perfect driving record.

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tonight here in the wells fargo center here in philadelphia with a huge lineup of speakers at the democratic national convention. of course, chief among them, president of the united states, barack obama. he will make that case of course for hillary clinton and the progressive policies he has enacted over the course of the last eight years. in fact, if i may, it was 12 years ago today that then-senator barack obama was introduced on the national stage for the first time as the 2004 dnc keynote speaker. of course he has been back every convention, ever since. >> the hope of slaves sitting around the fire singing freedom songs. hope of immigrants setting off on distant shores. the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely traveling the delta. a hope of a skinny kid who

believes there is a place for him, too. hope that has pioneers traveling west and it is that promise that 45 years ago today brought americans from every corner of this land to stand together on a mall in washington before lincoln's memorial and hear a young preacher from georgia speak of his dream. i recognize the times have changed since i first spoke to this convention. times have changed, and so have i. i'm no longer just a candidate. i'm the president. >> that's a look back for you. now let's look ahead to this evening. let me bring in, i have mitch landrieu, the democratic mayor of new orleans.

also a columnist for the washington examiner and brianna keilar, cnn's senior political correspondent. i heard the "wows" from you looking back at president obama so many conventions past. but to you first, you covered the president as a white house correspondent, now sitting here as a senior political correspondent. what are you listening for, what are you expecting out of the president tonight? >> i think we're just going to hear his full-throated endorsement of her. right? because it was clear as hillary clinton was getting ready to run and there was this question about whether joe biden was going to run that the president and then those very close to him were leaning towards hillary clinton as the one who could best carry the baton. that was sort of the calculation that he was making and that those around him were making throughout the primary season. he at least tried to maintain the veneer of being a little objective. he would put his finger on the scale for hillary clinton just speaking in a glowing way about her. but this is going to be unleashed. president obama sees his legacy

as tied to hillary clinton. i think we're going to see him giving a speech as if he is running for re-election. that's what we're expecting. >> i'm wondering if he's thinking of his eight years, and if there were to be a president trump, how much of his legacy would just go -- poof. how much of last eight years do you think we're going to hear about versus hillary clinton full-throated endorsement? >> i think you're going to hear about both. whether it is the president or a mayor, when you leave, one of the testament to the success is whether or not people want to continue with the guy. it would be a rejection if people wanted to go in the opposite direction. i think the president will double down tonight and talk about the success of his administration. >> this is sort of the tough spot democrats are in with this convention. for republicans the message was clear and consistent, things aren't going well, things are terrible, things are pretty dark. for the democrats there has to be this balance. how do you talk to the americans who 7 out of 10 think we are on the wrong track and speak to

those folks about the way the economy's going and also about terrorists and isis. how do you do both at the same time, say everything's been great but everything is also not so great. how do you do that at once? >> you have the president, but i also want to talk about, a lot of the nation doesn't really know tim kaine. here's his night to say, here's who i am, i know a lot of you think i am boring but here's why i'm not. to you, something unique you have in common, when he was city councilman and elected by redominaredo predominant black city council in richmond, then ultimately governor of the state, how will that help him? >> the message is we've done great work but we have a long way to go. i don't think anybody said we've formed the more perfect union that is our aspiration. i have more in common with tim kaine. i was trained by the jesuits as well and experience really

matters. when you get into the hard work of governing it is really boring. but you got a guy in tim kaine that was a city council member, mayor of a major city, he was a governor, and now united states senate. i think he is ready to serve. i think he is an excellent choice. when he made his speech, people stepped back and said, wow, he's got it going on. >> i was at this speech in miami. i would say that -- look, i sat through a lot of speeches. and i would say that that may have been the most compelling speech that i have seen this cycle. i will go out on a limb and say that. >> why? >> a week or so before -- one, it seemed to genuine and from the heart. and i remembered back to being at virginia tech when tim kaine had spoken and i remember being wowed by that speech and the way he could connect with people. what he said was exactly what they were feeling. it was -- and the other thing that was pretty -- you run the

risk when you're giving a speech like that of outshining the person who you're running with. what i thought was interesting was -- and i think this is a pretty difficult task for many politicians -- he didn't outshine her. he was able to complement her. i thought that that was -- i think that's a big achievement. because a lot of times, even elizabe elizabeth warren campaigning, yes, she riles people up but there is always that comparison between elizabeth warren and hillary clinton. he made a really good case for her. >> hit play, hit play, hit play. so that's tim kaine. virginia tech was a pivotal moment for him. he was in japan. left japan and flew back to blacksburg. i do want to talk about joe biden who ruffled some folks who said i will say yes. but he's dealing with the

passing of his son. this was a job he's wanted for a really long time. >> he was great vice president. you can understand that this maybe could be a bittersweet moment for him. but the think that the country is better off because he served as our vice president. last night there were actually two love stories. when bernie sanders' brother actually talked about what the vote was from folks overseas, you saw that as well. and bernie sanders last night was sent off with a great round of applause and congratulations because he did a great thing as well. but now it is time for the country to be united and for there to be a very simple choice. hillary clinton or donald trump. who is going to lead us into the future. choice is clear for me and i think tim kaine's only going to help her. >> if you think about the type of voter that joe biden really appeals to, think about that kind of voter who grew up in scranton. just like joe biden's story. somebody who's maybe catholic, comes from a working class family, be in a place like scranton, pennsylvania. that's the type of voter that joe biden can speak to and that's the type of voter that the democratic is struggling with, that she's been struggling

with. in cnn's polling before and after the republican conventions her margins went down among these non-college white voters. i think that's who they should use joe biden to really reach. >> who they had in droeshz ves 2012. thanks for bringing your new orleans weather to us. it is just lovely. love it. coming up here from philadelphia, my next guest was born six years before women won the right to vote. do the math, folks. yes. she is 102 years young. last night she watched in person as hillary clinton was nominated officially. it is the moment she has waited decades for. let me repeat -- 102 years of age. oh, my goodness. she is rocking a white suit out of the corner of my eye. and prosecutors in baltimore today dropping all remaining charges against three police officers in the death of freddie gray. reaction, including donald trump's harsh words for the

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you broke the marble ceiling, as you called it. how does it feel to be here and to be part of what you just did? >> beyond thrilling. it's very exciting. and when they announce at the end that she is the nominee, it's going to be something so

spectacular. and whatever dissent there may be in the hall will be drowned out. and when she comes out on thursday night, it is going to be so emotional. >> hillary clinton making history as the first woman to top a major party presidential ticket. i want to show you another very special moment full of pride. last night a 102-year-old woman, tears in her eyes, stood up and reported dozens of delegates for her idol, hillary clinton. she is gerry emmitt. she was born six years before women in this country officially got the right to vote in 1920. the retired educator is very well known in arizona in democratic party circles. she is legally blind. she doesn't hear perfectly. but none of that mattered. her excitement ending historic

magnitude were a thrill to watch. >> i am proud to be joined me by gerry emmitt, age 102. madam secretary, arizona casts 34 votes for senator sanders. >> and 51 votes for the next president of the united states of america, hillary rodham clinton! [ cheers and applause ] >> joining me now, honorary chair of the arizona democratic delegation, gerry emmitt. gerry, thank you so much for joining me today. i appreciate it. just for a minute -- 102 years young and you are sitting here. what convention is this for you? >> oh, five. four, maybe five. >> four, maybe five. and you had tears in your eyes. you were just asking me for a tissue a moment ago. this whole week has been teary

for you. why? >> it hasn't been just this week. my eyes are blind and they fix it so the tears run so that doesn't hurt anymore, even to be blind, sometimes it hurts. but this time it doesn't. >> you couldn't see everything but could you feel it that roll call yesterday? >> oh, yes. >> what was that like for you? >> it was the biggest thrill of my life since i had my two sons, i think. just wonderful. maybe when i got married. >> maybe when you got married. but definitely when you had your sons. how old were you when your mom finally could vote? >> i was -- when the law was passed in arizona -- because it was before the congressional law passed. two years. i'm proud of arizona for that. but it was -- i was 8 years old

when -- 8 or 9 years old when my mother first got to vote. and it was in a little town of gilbert, arizona. we only had 400 people there at the time. i'm the oldest graduate from that school, also the only graduate from college. but when they voted for all of gilbert came out when they were voting for the women to get to vote. men and women were cheering and clapping their hands. >> so you knew as an 8-year-old girl -- >> oh, yes. >> -- that that was a big deal. >> very big deal. >> i hear that if i were to talk into your house, you have a lot of signs. >> yes. >> tell me about that. >> i can't tell you about all of them or we'd be here until midnight. but i have a lot of them. and -- i got one of jay rockefeller. he sent me one when they asked

him to run for president. he sent me a message and he and his wife, sharon, have sent me pictures of their kids ever since then. and that was when i wanted him to run against -- i can't remember exactly. >> it's like a museum. as i understand it is like a museum walking into your home for the democratic party. >> yes. >> first question, i know you've met hillary clinton. that's so old news. if she were watching right now, what would you say to her? >> i would say god bless you, hillary. some day you will be second woman of the world. because she'll keep on doing for every country in the world, not just america. but all the world. so that we never have another war and send our kids -- i went through two wars. hillary would say, i will talk to these people and try to

convince them that we should all work together. until she dies, she'll do that. >> thank you so much for coming by. i appreciate it. >> i'm glad to. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> wow. 102 years young. coming up next here, we'll take a break from philadelphia and talk about this major story that happened here in baltimore today. all remaining charges have been dropped against those three police officers charged in that freddie gray case. also, donald trump weighing in with his thoughts today. what he said should be done to the state's prosecutor. we're live in baltimore next. donald trump : i love the old days;

you know what they used to do with guys like that when they were in a place like this? they'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. and you can tell them to go f--- themselves! i could stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? it's like incredible. when mexico sends its people, they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever... you gotta see this guy - ahh, i don't know what i said, ahh. "i don't remember." he's going like, "i don't remember!" our children and grandchildren will look back at this time... ...at the choices we are about to make. the goals we will strive for. the principles we will live by.

and we need to make sure that they can be proud of us. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message.

just moments from now we will have much more special coverage of the democratic national convention here in philadelphia. but first we have to talk about what happened today in baltimore. charges have been dropped against the last three police officers charged in the death of freddie gray. gray died last year in police custody after he suffered a severe spinal injury as he was being troansported in the back f a police van. his death sparked protests and riots in that city. let's begin with someone who's covered the story from the very beginning, my colleague, miguel marquez. start with what happened today and does that mean now zero criminal charges for everyone? >> reporter: zero criminal charges for everyone. it took all of a few seconds in court. the state's attorneys, the representative of the state's attorney stood up and said we want to dismiss all charges on the remaining cases.

there were three left to go. defense lawyers basically said is that it? are we dismissed? judge said you're done. everybody hugged and they left. a short time later the state's attorney herself, marilyn mosby, held a press conference at the very spot where freddie gray was arrested. i got to tell you, my jaw dropped at how much she went after the system and the police. basically saying that they sabotaged her case, specifically saying that they created videos, they created notes, they had text messages, they refused to ask the proper questions, they had their own separate investigation from her own essentially sabotaging her case. the fop, fraternal order of police, brought in all the police officers and their lawyers a short time ago. they then responded to her saying, look, you said you did a separate investigation. there was none. it was you and your office that denied justice to freddie gray and his family. they said that the maryland state police offered help. fbi offered help and she turned

it all away. they are laying blame squarely on her. they've already brought a civil case against her. there may be more administrative charges against her office as well. this is going -- what was moving along a path of all of these officers being -- charges being dismissed has now turned into something else entirely. i have never seen a press conference, a state's attorney, go after her biggest client, the police, like she did. astonishing. brooke? >> miguel marquez, thank you so much. pouring gas on the fire, as it's been described, what happened in baltimore know also this mornine weighed in on what miguel was talking about. really took a swipe at the prosecutor. >> the prosecutor in baltimore who indicted those police officers, i think she ought to prosecute herself.

okay? that's my reaction. i think it was disgraceful what she did and the way she did it. and the news conference that she had where they were guilty before anybody even knew the facts. >> let's talk about this from two very different perspectives. cnn political commentator scottie hughes who supports donald trump, and angela, first to you on trump's comments specifically. your response when you heard that. >> i think that he has a pattern and practice of offering commentary without knowing the full breadth and depth of the facts. when you consider the fact that he is running to be the commander in chief, it would be nice for him to think about the family who may be in a great deal of pain today given the circumstances. we're talking about six officers who had something to do with the death of someone's son. someone's brother, someone's cousin.

and there's no culpability. so whether or not you agree with marilyn moseby's strategy or not, it is very, very troubling that that was his response today. >> she brings up a good point. to be mindful of freddie gray's family, but to you. you are a trump supporter. do you support what he said? >> absolutely. because there's also six officers and their families who will always be affected by this who were demonized. $9 million worth of damage at the minimum was done in baltimore riots. these six people were demonized. you have this woman, because it did not align with her narrative, did not honestly present facts to the public in saying, yes, he did have narcotics in his system. >> oh, my god. >> these are all facts. you can sit there and criticize mr. trump, why don't you criticize president obama who got involved. even eric holder. now listen, mr. trump, and rudy giuliani both have said there are bad cops in the system. we need to take care of. walter scott in south carolina.

we are innocent until proven guilty in this country and instead of all of these folks immediately jumped in on this and claimed police brutality and sat there and said the officers did wrong, let's let the facts get out there. >> let me jump in. you have all of what you just said and what we also heard from mr. trump. staring at the wells fargo center and those mothers on the stage last night, mothers of the movement, trayvon martin's mother, eric gardner's mother, jordan's mother. they're all speaking. the next day this happens. >> yeah. i think the reality of it is sometimes we can be so doggone partisan, brooke, we forget about being human. so what i will not allow today is for someone who is dead now, who was alive and walking just fine, whether they had narcotics in their system or drugs in their system, that does not mean that he deserved death. i'm not done, scottie. he did not deserve death without trial.

he was not committing any crime. and we have an inherent issue in this country of criminalizing and demonizing and deciding that the black body is inherently criminal and violent. he was thrown around in the back of the van regardless of who was culpable. there were no charges that were sustainable. they did not -- the officers got off, then three more were dropped. i think that we cannot continue to blame victims when they did not do anything wrong. >> respond to that. >> they did put him in. they did sit him down. he's the one that got up and jumped around. >> no, that's not true. >> these are the facts. >> were you in the van? >> i'm sorry, were you? in that case they followed the rules. >> they were negligent. but she overcharged. that does not mean they didn't do it. >> she sat there and encouraged it. by the way, freddie gray's mother was not on the stage last night. you know who else wasn't?

the 31 officers whose families have been targeted this year. hey, it's my turn now. please let me -- >> please. >> no, no. 31 officers. mr. trump, if you want to make this about a side of dealing with people like freddie gray versus law enforcement? i can assure you, i think majority of americans will always take the frame of law enforcement, good police officers. don't demonize 31 officers this year have been killed, targeted by gunfire -- >> you're putting words in my mouth. >> if you're going to sit there and say these police officers committed -- if they were wrong, the justice department would have stepped in. >> this has everything to do with race. >> it was african-american officers involved. it was an african-american attorney general. african-american mayor. african-american -- you cannot claim race -- >> scottie, i'm not claiming race. >> you just did.

>> i'm telling you that the system is broken. >> justice worked. the city riot the based off the inflaming words. >> scottie, the reason why the city rioted is because that was the last straw for them, for so many of us. we have cousins, brothers, sisters who have been beaten violently by law enforcement officers, bad actors. when you continually see this happen, at some time your spirit just breaks. >> in almost every single case those officers have been exonerated. >> because you are all protected by the fraternal order of police. >> because police officers protect us. in dallas when everyone else was running away, law enforcement was running in. you can't continue this assault on law enforcement. >> that's not what i'm doing. you're lying. >> that's what you are. >> not at all. >> ladies, thank you. wow. quick break. we'll be back.

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we're back live in philadelphia. just days after hillary clinton named him as her running mate, virginia senator tim kaine will take center stage this evening at the democratic national convention, night number three. the stakes couldn't be higher. senator kaine got a walk-through of the podium this moorning. for many americans this speech will be an introduction to the virginia senator. he has spent decades in politics starting at city councilman in the beautiful city of richmond, virginia. cnn correspondent sin ltalks to. >> reporter: the stakes for tim kaine tonight couldn't be higher. >> i am so humbled by this opportunity. >> reporter: with the virginia senator preparing to deliver the biggest political speech of his life. soaking in the setting for

tonight's address during a morning walk-through of the convention stage. all part of a whirlwind week for kaine. >> this is quite a week for me. >> reporter: six days after being chosen as hillary clinton's running mate, he's stepping into the spotlight solo. from this is a civil right election. >> reporter: advisors to him say his speech will paint a stark contrast between hillary clinton and donald trump. >> donald trump is a one-man wrecking crew when it comes to the alliances we have with other nations. >> reporter: starting off his day at the delegation breakfast in philadelphia reviewing his remarks. >> is it too much to ask rather than it be someone other than someone who offends women every time he opens his mouth. >> our son just deployed two days ago. >> reporter: some democrats are still reluctant to embrace kaine. >> hillary clinton and tim kaine want to build an economy that works for everyone. >> reporter: including among sanders supporters hoping for a

more progressive pick. kaine supporters encouraging those skeptics to look at his record. >> when i hear some folks even in this hall say what about his impressive kcredentials. he go to women's rights glourou lgbt groups, he's got their backs. he's leaned in. >> reporter: make no mistake, behind that smile, tim also has a backbone of steel. >> reporter: highlighting his biography, including his missionary work in honduras in the 1980s, becoming fluent in spanish. >> my time in honduras changed my life in so many ways. [ speak spanish ] >> reporter: also getting his emotional about his experience as virginigovernor during the virginia tech shooting. >> april 16, 2007.

that was the day of my life. it was the worst day of so many people's lives. >> reporter: and even though he has labeled himself boring -- >> true, i am boring. but, you know, boring is the fastest growing demographic in this country. >> reporter: he's revealed there might be more to his personality than meets the eye. >> i say put down the camera. >> reporter: showing off his harmonica skills. and that distinctive left eyebrow which is now getting its own moment in the spotlight. and senator kaine wrote the speech himself tonight with the help of some advisors and is spending the day he today making last-minute tweaks to that speech. our team caught such an interesting moment on the floor when he was doing that walk-through earlier today. they saw his staff trying out different wardrobe options. they brought a red tie and blue tie, trying to see which one looked better. of course, every detail so

important for him. >> i'm glad you brought up virginia tech. that was sort of the pivotal moment for him. left japan, came back, was there, went straight to the hospital and talking to the father of one of the young men who was shot about how in touch the senator has been with this family all through these years. thank you very much. we'll see you racing around the floor later this evening. and now shall we continue on? hour two. here we go. top of the hour, you're watching cnn's special live coverage here from philadelphia. pretty pictures. cnn grill, just adjacent to the wells fargo center where all the action is taking place all through the week here. day number two of the dnc. i'm brooke baldwin. thank you for spending your wednesday with me. let's keep in mind in a matter of hours the nation will see president barack obama do his part to try to help the democrats make history for a second time. the first just happened with now

major party's first female nominee. everyone hopes that will happen november 8th when hillary clinton becomes the country's first woman president. president obama is set to cap a night of political heavyweights. in philadelphia, the vice president, joe biden. former new york mayor, michael bloomberg who we just heard from sunl sunlen's piece all about clinton's running mate, tim kaine of virginia. and the president of the united states expected to speak some time after that 10:00 mark. make no mistake, the president has a tremendous amount riding on this. not just of course for the democratic party but for himself and preserving all eight years of his own in that oval office. let's begin this hour with senior political reporter manu raju from what to expect from the president. how much will he talk about his

eight years versus a massive pitch for hillary clinton? >> i think he will talk about his eight years and make a massive pitch for hillary clinton. the president views this speech as one of the most important of his entire time in office. we are told by white house officials that he has been working on this speech since late june, actually writing this speech out in handwritten fashion on yellow legal pads, going back and forth with his team of advisors to really fine-tune this speech. what we're expecting him to talk about is the progress that he believes the countries has made in his time in office and that hillary clinton can continue that effort, and also that you elect donald trump, he believes that will essentially be a race. he's also expected to talk about her as a publicer is var er ise selected her as secretary of state. then talk about his own personal

relationship with secretary clinton, how they were one-time rivals and now they became very, very close. how they got to that point. expect him possibly to even tie it back to his 2004 convention speech that sort of catapulted him into the stratosphere actually 12 years ago to the day when he delivered that speech. this is a very important moment in the president's eyes and politically democrats believe they can help reverse hillary clinton's very poor poll numbers, particularly on the trustworthiness factor, honesty factor and perhaps obama's improving poll numbers, democrats hope they can help her improve in that direction. >> all right, thank you so much there inside the arena hall. now this may be a day for democrats but republican nominee donald trump is trying to steal some of that spotlight after his comments predominantly about russia hacking e-mails of the democratic national convention. and shocking even to his harshest critics.

here he was. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. i think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. let's see if that happens. okay? >> now, let me tell you that hillary clinton's campaign has responded to that. her senior policy advisor, jake sullivan says, and i quote, "this has to be the first time that a major presidential candidate has actively encouraged a foreign power to conduct espionage against his political opponent. that is not hyperbole. those are just the facts." he goes on and said, "this has gone from being a matter of curiosity and a matter of politics to being a national security issue." let's start there. i have cnn political commentator jeffrey lord, a trump supporter. used to be the white house political director under ronald reagan. van jones. former michigan governor jennifer granholm, also senior advisor to correct the record super pac. . and chief political

correspondent dana bash. so happy day three. let's just dive right in to it. the fact that, van jones, trump is encouraging russia to commit espionage. how dangerous is that? >> look. he probably thought he was being clever. he probably thought he was being cute. he probably thought he was being outrageous. he probably thought here is a good way for me to steal the spotlight. the problem is, you can't do stuff like that if tu want to be the president of the united states. you can't say stuff like that if you want to be the president of the united states. i cannot explain to you having worked in the white house how sensitive every word, semi-colon, comma is when you are speaking on behalf of the authority of that office. listen, i don't think this is the biggest thing in the history of the world. the democrats are going to beat him up about it. but this goes to an incredibly important question in temperament and judgment. >> cute, clever. jeffrey lord? >> well, i don't think it is

like saying isis is the jv team which the incumbent president said. look. first of all, in terms much these e-mails, i was led to believe by hillary clinton and the rest of the campaign these were all personal e-mails. so i'm sure there is no security e-mails in there, according to secretary clinton. the critics here are the folks that got us into this mess and i don't think they have any credibility with the american people on this. >> jeffrey, you are one of the best. you worked for reagan. >> right. let me tell you -- >> hold on. let 3450e s let me set this up. reagan was a master of the entire process. reagan would never say anything like that. he got caught off camera one time but he would never deliberately say anything like that. >> look, having been there, i can tell you this. when ronald reagan shortly after he was inaugurated held his first press conference and he was asked about relations with the soviet union, he said that

they reserved unto themselves of the right to lie and cheat. i can only tell you there were gasps in the room when they said that because presidents didn't say these kind of things. we were having detent with the soviet union. you don't say this. later on he went back and called them the evil empire. i can only tell you that coronaries -- >> let me turn to the ladies. jump in. >> that's different from seeming to invite a major country that the u.s. has very sprained relations with, at best, to hack an american political party. now, having said that, the trump campaign is in clean-up mode. jason miller, who is the trump campaign communications director, did not one, not two, but seven -- a series of seven tweets. it's like -- >> i'm sure. >> -- to try to explain. number three -- to be clear, mr. trump did not call on or invite russia or anyone else to hack

hillary clinton's e-mails today. now to have to type that into a tweet and try to clarify that -- >> this is donald trump looking right in that camera. >> not exactly imesure what jason miller would like to do today. or anybody in the trump campaign. but they are trying to clean it up which does show that they understand that it was not exactly the best message for his candidacy. >> especially in the wake of the interview he gave "the new york times" when he talk about nato and perhaps the u.s. not coming to allies' defense. >> he is ridiculous! in terms of our national security? first of all, he is inviting us to really pile on on the suspicion that somehow he's in cahoots with putin when he does stuff like that. whether or not he is, he's inviting "the manchurian candidate" when he does stuff like that. then, when you suggest that he -- that he doesn't suggest. says we should pull out from nato and not defend our allies, i mean -- and then to try to

send a signal to russia over the airwaves that they shall coould in and hack? is if he were a serious candidate he would have shut this down and said, look be with we are not in the business of partnering with russia. this is serious stuff. i don't care if they're hacking the dnc or the rnc. we should not be inviting the soviet union to be hacking -- >> how do you respond? let we just add another voice. leon panetta weighing in as well. here you go. >> i find those kinds of statements to be totally outrageous because you've got now a presidential candidate who is in fact asking the russians to engage in american politics. i just think that that's beyond the pale. there are a lot of concerns i have with his qualities of

leadership or lack thereof. i think that kind of statement only reflects the fact that he truly is not qualified to be president of the united states. >> coming from leon panetta, former cia director. >> the naivete here that the russians aren't trying to lack every last thing that's out there is mind boggling. they don't need any encouragement from donald trump or anybody else. >> but words matter. here's the thing. >> what difference does it make? according to hillary clinton? >> can you imagine if a democrat invited, or seemed to invite, a foreign power to interject themselves into our campaign and to hack one of your people? i think you would be as offended as we are offended. >> can i just say something about raw politics here. forget the policy. raw politics. what are we doing right now? we're sitting at the democratic convention talking about what donald trump said. take's way the question of whether or not this was appropriate to say for somebody who wants to be commander in

chief. as somebody who understands how to get into the narrative, he did it. he succeeded. we are talking about it. >> we should be talking about the lineup tonight. >> excellent pivot! governor jennifer granholm. >> he is unsteady. she will demonstrate that she is steady. you need somebody who you can be sure is going to make you safe and not make you more unsafe. >> i have to imagine president obama will be addressing this very issue on that stage. yes? >> he will. i bet he will. yes. >> quickly on tax returns. quickly. he's not releasing them. >> right. >> release them. >> look, where were george washington's tacks? ly lincoln's in roosevelt's ? >> this is 2016. van jones, there you go. thank you all very much. coming up, 12 years to the

day after appearing in the 2004 democratic national convention, what will president obama's message be tonight marking what will probably be his last final messages as commander in chief. we'll talk about that. . also ahead, after saying donald trump would never be president, president obama now changing his words saying, "anything is possible this november," even advising democrats to stay worried. just one day after -- two days after michelle obama mentioned slaves building the white house in a powerful speech inside that wells fargo center, fox host bill o'reilly has said they were "well fed, and had decent lodging." really? we're going to talk about that. this is cnn's special live coverage. we'll be right back.

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we're back here live in philadelphia. with the major lineup of speakers at day number three of the dnc, chief among them, president of the united states. he of course will make a case of full-throated endorsement, i'm sure, for hillary clinton. and the progressive policies he has enacted over the past eight years in the white house. in fact, it was, if i may take you back down memory lane, 12 years ago today that then-senator barack obama was introduced on the national stage for very first time. remember he was the 2004 dnc keynote speaker and of course he has been back to every democratic convention since. >> it is the hope slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs. the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores.

the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the macondelta. the hope of a mill worker's son who dares to defy the odds. the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name for hope there is a place for him, too. the problem that's led immigrants to cross oceans and pioneers to travel west. and it is that promise that 45 years ago today, brought americans from every corner of this land to stand together on a mall in washington before lincoln's memorial and hear a young preacher from georgia speak of his dream. i recognize that times have changed since i first spoke to this convention. times have changed, and so have i. i'm flong longer just a candida.

i'm the president. >> let's look ahead to this evening. i have with me here, cnn political commentator, carl bernstein. cnn political analyst jackie kucinich. executive director of georgetown's institute of politic and public service and former comps director for the dnc. we're going to have wedding photos with you as it relates to tim kaine. stand by for that. but first, jackie kucinich, president obama. the notion of obviously a president trump. how much of that would negate his eight years and how much of a then full-throated endorsement of hillary clinton will we hear? >> if trump wins, you have to assume the senate and potentially the house and potentially the senate also stay in place. yeah, obama legacy and the obama agenda would be in extreme

jeopardy because of -- you can imagine the house is just going to push through some of the rollbacks that they've wanted. stakes could not be higher for obama. >> what are you expecting from him tonight? >> that he's going to talk, among other things, about the break-in the a the democratic national headquarters. if anybody would have told me 44 years after the break-in at the dnc that we would have a convention where we were talking about another break-in at democratic headquarters and implications of it in a political election for the presidency. this is not something that i could not have imagined in my wildest dreams or worst nightmares. however, he is going to address the question of donald trump's fitness to be president and today we have reached a tipping point in this election when it ought to be apparent to all. and the democrats should be able to make their case that he is manifestly unsuited to be president of the united states

because of his recklessness with the national security and just even thinking about the idea of endorsing the notion that the russians should go ahead an hack in to our national security apparatus. it's typical of what we've seen in the campaign. say what you want about hillary clinton, nobody's been rougher on her than i about her server and its recklessness. apples and oranges. this is a disqualifying event for a president of the united states. >> want to move on the president and get to tim kaine. we saw hip doing his walk-through earlier. he and his staff checking out which tie may be better for one of these prime time speaking spots. this is really him saying hello to the entire country who may not know him. >> i've known him 15 years, since he was mayor of richmond, running for lieutenant governor of virginia. i worked on his gubernatorial campaign in 2005 be, on his sen

campaign in 2012. he officiated my wedding. he is a friend. i've worked with some tremendously talented -- >> look at that. our hair is a little less grey back then. but he may be the truest publicer is varnt that i ever will known in politics. >> why? >> he was growing up instilled with the notion of social justice and breaking down barriers and sort of -- he grew up jesuit educated and was really taught the notion of public service, doing good for others. he's taken that with him throughout his entire life, throughout his entire career as a missionary in honduras, as a civil rights attorney in the former capital of the confederacy. >> i faerther-in-law. a republican who ended massive

resistance in the closing of the schools in virginia to avoid integration. his father-in-law didn't. what we've seen at this bhowhol contrast to cleveland where there are two different versions of america. nothing opit m piepitomizes it hillary clinton and what she's done. what tim kaine's done. what his father-in-law did following in that bipartisan tradition. that donald trump is not following in. you could not hand the president of the united states the most -- the first african-american president coming here tonight. that's what this election is about. two visions of america and it's, as i said, the gettysburg of the cultural wars this election to determine the future of this country for generations. >> let me full circle back to you, jackie. we were sitting here yesterday talking about bill clinton. you were like i bet my bottom

dollar we'll hear the yale library story. you called it. here is a piece of the beginning of the love story he told last night. >> in the spring of 1971, i met a girl. the first time i saw her, we were appropriately enough in a class on political and civil rights. she had thick blonde hair, big glasses. wore no makeup. and she exuded this sense of strength and self-possession that i found magnetic. after the class, i followed her out. intending to introduce myself. i got close enough to touch her back, but i couldn't do it. somehow i knew this would not be just another tap on the shoulder. >> i was listening to paul

begala who's written speeches for bill clinton over the last 25 years. he says he's such a quintessential southerner, saying, hey, come down river with me and at end of this little river ride you end up feeling like you found the mean of life. from this was a very personal speech for bill clinton. you saw that in the presentation. you felt it, right? but i do wonder how much tim kaine will bring out that realness in hillary clinton. because as you know, what you see with tim kaine is what you get. and republicans trust him, democrats trust him. they really like him. so i wonder how much he can bring out in her some of the things that people really like in him. >> jackie and mo and carl, thank you all so much. thank you, thank you. so, how will americans, how will you, react to senator tim kaine's speech tonight? we'll talk to a father who knows senator kaine quite well when he was governor kaine in the state

of virginia when the worst thing possible happened in blacksburg, virginia, the mass shooting at virginia tech. we'll talk about that and what that meant for him, the then-governor, hopping on a plane from japan to come see his son and so many others. also ahead, the day after michelle obama's powerful speech to the democratic national convention here, fox news host bill o'reilly weighed in saying the slaves who built the white house were "well fed, good lodging." let's go there. this is special live coverage here from philadelphia. if you have medicare

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all right, so we have some pictures for you. we're watching closely to see if we can see the woman of the week here, hillary rodham clinton. this is her plane. the nose of her plane. trying to get a sneak peek of her. we have not seen her yet in philadelphia. this is the first time she has arrived. this is all for her so tomorrow night is her big night when she speaks in prime time and it is her daughter who has been here. we've seen glimpses of her, especially as her dad spoke last night so lovingly about her mother. chelsea clinton will be introducing her tomorrow. i will keep one eye on that plane. but for now, shall we move on? let's talk about fox news host bill o'reilly who is being criticized after appearing to defend the living conditions of the slaves who built the white

house. he was specifically responding to the first lady's speech monday night here at the dnc where she said she wakes up every morning in a home that was built by slaves. and this is how bill o'reilly responded. >> slaves that worked there were well fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. however, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor. so michelle obama is essentially correct in citing slaves and builders of the white house, but there were others working as well. >> let's go there. michael smerconish is with me, also with us, bacari seller, from the south carolina house. let's call him out. >> it's easy to just label this as being ignorant. it's easy to label this as being

below what most journalists hold to be the bar. but i think it is deeper than that. i think it is the fact that many times african-americans in this country don't get their life valued. there is a question about human decency. there is a question about human dignity. and in that clip, bill o'reilly didn't display any of that. i think any -- it is not an appearance to defend slavery. what he did was say that slaves were well fed which is beyond the pale. it is not as if he gave the appearance of anything. he was speaking in a way that was disrespectful to the legacy of many people who came to this country in shackles and actually were tormentetormented, were be died. if they had any choice, no, mr. o'reilly, they wouldn't be building the white house. they would be living free. i think the fact that he can't wrap his head around those words of dignity and decency, i really have no use for him at all. >> strong words from you. from you, just the politics of it all. the first lady's speech, she's a

tough one to criticize. yet are you surprised this came of it? >> no. i think if you put bill o'reilly, fox news and the worth slavery in the same sentence, you've got a twitter sensation. it was awkward. i don't get the well fed reference. i think we've all become expert today in learning what kind of fl labor who built the white house. i like the historian who said it was a mansion built in the south during slavery. of course there was slave labor involved. i think awkwardly he was fact checking her and concluded that he was correct but i don't understand the fed basis for that reference because there seems to be no historical support for it. . >> let's move on. i'm done with that. let's talk about mayor michael bloomberg who is speaking this evening. i think it goes biden, bloomberg, kaine, obama. you are excited to hear from him, why? >> are you not giving a shout out to my suspenders? >> oh, my gosh! you put me on with bakari. >> you are officially the most

handsome person -- >> i am in a zone. >> i upped my game because bakari is sitting next to me, then you are ignoring it. i am excited about michael bloomberg. gallup says 36% of americans are independents. you say to whom does the independent community look for leadership? i don't know. it is a short list but he is on it. i would have liked to have seen this guy get into this race. i think that at the's put on that stage, yes, because he is an a-lister who is endorsing hillary clinton, but also because you got the gary johnson factor out there. johnson at 13% or so in the polls. i think this is deliberate to make sure that movement doesn't go too far. >> it is white middle-aged men, many of whom in this country who do not have college degrees where hillary clinton is not doing well with. maybe he can help pull that in. maybe tim kaine tonight. you, you love you some president obama.

you are annot shy about that at all. >> not at all. we're two skinny guys with funny names. i think president obama is definitely in the white house right now scribbling on that pad. probably ripping up part of it after donald trump made those comments that showed that he wasn't prepared to be president of the united states. i think the president will have a lot of fun with this speech. i think the energy is going to be amazing. i think he will take us somewhere. but i also think the president doesn't want to have the second-best speech in his house. because michelle obama took it to another level. and if he doesn't come with his a-game, sasha and malia are going to give him trash over the next several days. i have a really low bar for your friend, michael bloomberg, so i think he can beat expectations. >> we'll have a another

conversation at commercial break. thank you both so much. straight ahead, we have to be serious and talk about a pivotal moment for the time then-governor tim kaine, massacre at virginia tech. we'll talk with a father whose son was injured. took four bullets during that shooting. he says kaine was the first official to come to his son's bedside. that personal story coming up. you're watching cnn's special live coverage from philadelphia. i had that dream again --

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but i think it is a really big deal that the first woman has been nominated. i have three daughters. >> yes. >> and it resonates with them. i think it resonates with real people. i think it just clicked last night. people actually understood what it meant. this is something that people can truly relate to in life. how come there has nef been a woman president? we're all equal. men are equal to women. glass ceiling. so i think it is a very, very powerful fact. now, i think you could go too far and say she should be elected because she would be the first woman and she won't do that. we're not going to elect a president for symbolism. but if you are the experienced, qualified candidate, and you happen to be a woman, is it a big deal? sure. >> you mentioned your daughters. what do they say? >> oh, they're very be, very excited. yeah. they're very, very excited. look, for a role model for a young woman, there has never

been a president of the united states. been very few global leaders who are women. very few large corporate ceos who are women. why? why? in 2016. >> what about on terry mcauliffe, governor of virginia, who's a very close friend of governor clinton's saying to politico she would reverse on trade and reverse on tpp. john podesta saying unequivocally that is incorrect. why do you think he would do that? >> you know, this is democratic politics. democratic politics can be a contact sport. you know? and this is a big tent on the democratic side. you look at the diversity that we're very proud of. you have a diversity both in complexion and you have a diversity in terms of positions. many of the bernie sanders supporters have much different positions than the hillary clinton supporters. even among the hillary clinton supporters, there are differences of position.

so that's who we are, that's what we are. that's normal. the trick for the democratic party has always been, can you unify that group at the end of the day. and that's the job at the convention and that's what was done remark pli well over the past couple of days. and i salute senator sanders because he led the way. that was one of the great tests, i think, that had to be accomplished at this convention. could you bring back the sanders supporters to really lock arms with the hillary clinton supporters. >> yeah. >> and that was done in a really big way yesterday. >> i had five of those bernie or busters with be if you want to call them that, some of whom who said that they will now vote for hillary clinton. but you feel they believe in bernie, they believe in this so-call revolution. right? so my question to you, having been in that arena and you feel it -- you know politic is also not just about substance and policy but it is about raw emotion an feel. people felt michelle obama.

people felt bill clinton. i have a feeling people will feel barack obama tonight. but for hillary clinton where her trustworthiness and favorability is low, how do you humanize her? is there a non-pejorative way to describe this woman? >> i think bill clinton was masterful on that last night. i have a slightly different perspective. i was in the clinton administration. i was there for eight years. i was secretary of housing and urban development so i know hillary clinton like this for eight years. i've traveled all over the world with her. when i read the news stories about hillary clinton, i say, who are they talking about? who is this woman? so -- >> you feel there is a disconnect between -- >> a total disconnect. so i think what bill clinton did, i don't know that he needed to do, but what he did was he said, i want you to think again about who this woman is. >> this girl i met in the spring of 1971 at the yale library. yeah. >> i want to give you a

different portrait than this constant negative stereotype that has been circulated over and over and over again in the media. >> but at the end of the day, doesn't she need to bring that? >> but i think she does. i see that in her. think it is the lens that people are now bringing to the picture. but she is -- she has a warmth. she is funny. she is quick. she is bright. we haven't seen that side of her. think actually the exposure in the campaign going forward is going to be very good for her. now that the primary is over and it is not going to be the drama of bernie and hillary, bernie and had ill illary, now it is g be let's just look at hillary and maybe let's take a second look at hillary, and let me re-open my perception of hillary after what bill said. she is an attractive personality. >> governor cuomo -- >> so nice to see you. >> -- thanks for swinging by. i appreciate it. >> don't mention the other cuomo. >> you're the star cuomo of my

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tonight on the dnc stage, tim kaine will introduce himself to the nation. who he has become as a man and a politician was shaped by one of the deadliest shootings in our nation's history. a man came to blacksburg, virginia. killed 32 people, when it

happened governor kaine was in japan. he raced across the globe, raced home to virginia, and when goddard woke up, he was the first politician to visit him in the hospital. talk to me about the initial moments, fist of all, i can't even begin to imagine as a father dealing with this when your son is shot at school, and you have the governor race back from japan to see you. >> well, it was obviously not the very best circumstances to meet your governor for the first time, but he came into the hospital room and he chewed his staff out and closed the door, and he and his wife spent some time with us and it was very comforting to have someone

get -- to come there and to say they were concerned about us and worried about how colin was getting over his shooting. and they came to listen to us, to see -- we had a lot of questions and he made it very clear from the beginning he was prepared to do what he could to find answers to our questions. he was under a lot of stress, and i think i was able to see a lot more deeply into the man that i could have from many other social interactions. i think i got to see the real tim kaine. >> and in seeing the real tim kaine, did he just come once or has he stayed in touch with you all? >> he was very open with all of the families. we all had questions, ideas, he met with us every time we wanted to meet with him and we stayed

in contact since because we share an interest in seeing an ending to the reduction in gun violence. >> final question here, as she standing in front of millions of people that will be watching him introduce himself, now senator kaine to the nation. can you tell me more about tim kaine the man? >> it is quite easy. there are things in his character that were not created by the virginia tech issue, but they came out and they were show cased by his reaction to virginia tech. all of the wonderful things in his character. his intelligence, his compassion, his interest in people were already baked into him when he fist ran for public

office, and it stayed there. and the responsibility that's go along with gun ownership, those are things with him way before virginia tech. so we got to see those things, and if everybody in america could feel those things, i think they would feel very confident having someone in his stature and background and in his position of government. it is very easy to look at someone leek tim kaine. he says he is boring, but i would not call him that at all. he is not a carnival barker and he is not going to string out a lot of nonsense because he is too intelligent to do that. he will not insult a lot of people because she too compassionate for that. if that is what boringness is, then all right. >> you're okay with that. we'll be watching for senator

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. hillary clinton touching down a short while ago. here in the city of brotherly love. the president and vice president will be here hoping they can pass the baton this evening. i'm jake tapper. this is "the lead." president obama is again getting ready to take the big statement in prime time. this is 12 years after the