Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  July 29, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT

5:00 pm
a live look from harrisburg, pennsylvania, where hillary clinton is set to begin a campaign event any minute now. clinton and tim kaine kicking off their post-convention bus tour there, with that we'll say thank you very much. anderson cooper starts right now. ♪ ♪ good evening. thanks for joining us. welcome to the first day of the final stretch of the presidential campaign unlike any we've seen before and we're seeing plenty more of it tonight. both candidates holding events throughout the day and into the program in states that could swing the election this fall. here's our interview with julian assange who published the democratic party e-mail that possibly russia stole and leaked. apparently a new facet of that same dnc computer hack this time directly involving clinton campaign data and jeff zeleny is here to join us with that and jeff, what are you learning? >> anderson, in a statement a short time ago the clinton
5:01 pm
campaign said this, we have no evidence our internal systems have been compromised, but there is evidence that law enforcement officials are telling cnn that part of this dnc hack actually spread to other entities across the democratic party's organization, and it has to do via voter files and voter information files here so they're still looking into that tonight. anderson, all of this is happening as hillary clinton and tim kaine started their bus tour. they believe they're leaving philadelphia with the democratic party largely united and now the question is what about those voters in the middle? >> the new democratic ticket is taking its show on the road. >> as of tomorrow, we have 100 days to make our case to america! hillary clinton and tim kaine on a three-month sprint to election day. what better place to kick off this campaign than right here in philadelphia where it all
5:02 pm
started 240 years ago? ♪ >> reporter: after a convention steeped in noftalia, their challenge now, tapping into the country's hunger for change. >> i'm not telling you that everything is just peachy keen. i'm telling you we've made progress, but we have work to do and we're going to make sure everybody is included! >> their fight with donald trump is now fully joined as they try making him an unacceptable choice. >> the republican convention was like a twisted and negative tour. it was a journey through donald trump's mind and that is a very frightening place. >> so today, the democratic candidates set off on a bus tour of pennsylvania and ohio. evoking memories of another journey back in 1992. >> with the clintons and gores. >> this time the clintons are alongside tim kaine and his wife ann still focusing on the economy. >> we're going to be visiting a few places where people are
5:03 pm
making things. donald trump talks about make america great again. he doesn't make a thing in america except bankruptcies! >> reporter: a democratic convention rich in history. >> i accept your nomination for president of the united states! >> reporter: is now the script for how democrats hope to defeat trump. >> russia, if you're listening -- >> she said he doesn't have the temperament for the oval office. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. j safety and security now a central piece of her argument. >> donald trump says and this is a quote, i know more about isis than the generals do. no, donald, you don't. after a weak aek in historic philadelphia, clinton made clear that the history making moment
5:04 pm
that matters comes in november. >> i believe every time we knock down a barrier in america it liberates everyone in america. every parent in this country could look at their son or their daughter and now say the very same thing, you, too, could be president of the united states! thank you all! god bless you! >> jeff, talk a little bit about why the rust belt now is so important? >> anderson, the issue of trade, the argument of trade is front and center in this campaign, and for the next weekend, the next three days it is even more so. the clinton campaign trying to push back against donald trump's arguments and they're doing it in a very personal way to donald trump and talking about all of the outsourcing he has done for his various products or so and that's another reason, anderson, if hillary clinton passes through pennsylvania and through
5:05 pm
ohio or any chance through michigan and wisconsin, they believe they've extinguished his path to the white house at all because states with more diverse populations like florida and virginia, nevada and colorado they believe are already in their corner. that's why they're starting after this convention right here in the rust belt. >> jeff, thanks very much. >> donald trump speaks shortly in denver and he spoke in colorado springs. more on that from our jason carroll. >> just remember this, trump is going to be more more mr. nice guy. >> reporter: donald trump on offense taking aim at hillary clinton on the heels of this week's democratic national convention. >> i've been saying let's just beat her in the november race, but you know what? no. no. you know what? i'm starting to agree with you, i'll tell you. >> after watching that performance last night, such lies. i don't have to be so nice anymore. i'm taking the gloves off,
5:06 pm
right? >> reporter: trump is also ignoring the advice of a friend who he says told him to stay focused on clinton. >> i was going to hit one guy in particular, a very little guy, i was going to hit this guy so hard his head would spin, he wouldn't know what the hell happened. >> reporter: today trump going after former new york city mayor michael bloomberg who delivered a scathing attack against trump at the convention. >> trump says he wants to run the nation like he's running his business? god help us. i'm a new yorker, and i know a con when i see one. >> reporter: trump sweeting this response. if michael bloomberg ran again for mayor of new york he would aren't get 10% of the vote. they would run him out of town. trump's prolific tweeting not lost on clinton. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust
5:07 pm
with nuclear weapons. >> reporter: trump firing back. >> if somebody tweet, i do what i do. who cares? i'll tell you, i think i have the best temperament. or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that's ever run for the office of president. ever because i have a winning temperament. >> reporter: the gop nominee as he has done so many times in the past calling clinton several names on twitter, all this while his running mate, indiana governor mike pence took issue with name calling after the president referred to trump as a homegrown demagogue during his speech wednesday night. >> i don't think name calling has any place in public life, and i think that was unfortunate that the president of the united states would use a term like that let alone laced into a sentence like that. >> jason carroll joins us from colorado. it seems that donald trump was affected by the criticisms lobbied at him this week.
5:08 pm
his biggest comeback at michael bloomberg was calling him little. >> reporter: look, it clearly angered him and he told the crowd here in colorado springs that he has the right temperament to be president, and he also said the reason why he goes on twitter so much is because he told the crowd i have millions of followers on twitter, why wouldn't i go to twitter? >> he wanted to point out that when he said he was going to go after the little guy and hit him and hit him hard, he said that he was going to do it fizzphys y physically, but go after him with words. there was a story he told the crowd where a friend told him don't go after people like this, stay focussed clinton and he didn't do that and that's why so many of his critics still within the gop says this man is too thin-skinned and doesn't have the discipline to be commander in chief, but on the flip side of that whether you're out here at the rallies and whether it's colorado springs or whether it's iowa and pennsylvania, these
5:09 pm
crowds respond to the name calling so that in the eyes of the campaign, why should he stop? >> jason carroll, let's bring in michael mongel and maria cardona and maggie haberman and she's also a cnn political analyst and gop consultant and sirius xm, and trump surrogate john j.lovell. >> congratulations on the interview with donald trump on foreign policy. yet another fascinating interview. >> the 101 days and the battle has been joined. how confident are each of these campaigns at this point? >> it depends on what is being said publicly and what's being said privately. the clinton campaign feels increasingly confident coming out of this convention that they have a strong message to drive against donald trump. you heard jeff talk about why they see the importance of extij wishing any trump support and that's where his base is.
5:10 pm
the trump campaign says it feels confident that they have a lot of room to grow when they talk to their advisers privately and there is lingering frustration with the fact that the campaign has not expanded as quickly as they hoped it would and the fact that they have a candidate who they can't quite keep on message and you heard these messages over the last 24 hours and hillary clinton with an array of speakers including a retired military general and mike bloomberg and the president of the united states and the nominee essentially describing him as a threat to the democracy and trump is still giving rallies talking about little mike, and i'm tweeting and things like that. i know that they think and he thinks this approach has worked for him and it did in the primaries, but this race is going to be settled by 100 million voters who did not vote in any party. >> as a trump supporter does it concern you that he reverted back to the name calling, labeling? >> no, not necessarily. he has been on message.
5:11 pm
he's been laying out his plan, and you saw a speech last thursday. he hit it out of the park and he was tremendous. we saw the next president of the united states. >> in terms of specifics, he doesn't talk about specifics and he's still -- today he rehashed every insult. he rehashed mocking the disabled reporter which he's continuing to pretend he didn't do. he attacked the fire marshall today. you don't hear him give a speech about the specifics. >> he's talking about that he's a counter puncher and he'll continue to lay out his message like he has been and the people are reacting and you see the poll numbers moving and he keeps laying out his message and the media keeps focusing on one sentence he says. he can speak for an entire day and he makes one comment and the entire evening -- >> it's called running for president. >> it was way more than one comment. i've listened to the speech. >> it could be a few. >> the people don't trust hillary clinton.
5:12 pm
>> right. they are beginning to trust him. >> his numbers are moving in a very positive direction. >> scott, do you think he needs to evolve as a candidate? >> anderson, i think there is a fine line i have to walk. on one hand, yes, he has to look more presidential, on the other hand he has to keep up the engagement and one thing that donald trump has done very good from the very beginning is the relationships and making people engage in their campaign and that's a problem that republicans have had through the last two election cycles and mccain and romney and when you have the base staying home, while you don't like the comments that come the overall picture of the speech continues to keep people involved and keep people excited and keep the momentum going forward and that's not necessarily happening and we're seeing on the hillary clinton side. ? what he has to do is scotty's right. what he has to do is expand his engagement. he can't just have republican party voters and a plurality show up at the polls of
5:13 pm
november. he now has to get single women, republican-leaning independents and hispanics, asian-americans and african-americans and we all know it simply isn't in his column now so he has to mature beyond his primary personality and actually run a general election campaign. >> maria, for the democrats, you know, they are essentially have the risk of selling the status quo. i mean, hillary clinton out today saying everything isn't peachy keen to use a term i haven't used in a while and not exactly the most modern age, but i mean isn't that one of the dangers of the democrats and we have to keep in mind that when we saw the convention these last four days were people who were focused not just on her bog ravy and the woman behind the resume which was also something that was needed because a lot of people they know her, but they don't really know what mobilizes her and what motivates her, but
5:14 pm
i also think what we did in these last four days and what they'll continue to do is to say, look, we understand the angst. democrats understand that people are anxious about what is coming. that people are afraid. there was talk about isis and that's why general allen was there and that's why leon panetta was there and that's why you had a lot of republicans talking on their behalf and you'll see the way she's positioning herself is that, look, we are the greatest country in the world. we can do better, but instead of choosing a demagogue who is going to talk about the demise of america and speak to the darker angels of our psyche, we are going to choose a leader that speaks to the better angels of our nature. >> there was certainly that message and that sense of optimism coming out of philadelphia that, you know, certainly a lot of democrats didn't necessarily hear from the republicans. >> and for some, that's encouraging, right? for someone who sits to the left of hillary clinton and myself as
5:15 pm
a green party supporter. i don't like donald trump and i need a message that's progressive. i'm looking to the democratic convention for some encoura encouragement. to some extent i didn't get that. i heard about how awesome america was. i heard about american exceptionalism and deep patriotism. they countered donald trump's message of demagoguery and we can out-patriot the republicans. >> exactly. >> to some extent i didn't get the message of progressive economic policy, and i didn't get a thorough -- >> the platform that we worked very closely. >> she talked about how we need to implement that with the sanders supporters. >> how many people are there to the left of -- the whole bernie crew. >> 90% of the bernie supporterers say they'll vote for hillary clinton and aren't those independents needed? >> you're so cynical tonight. >> i have to be cynical on both sides.
5:16 pm
that's my job. >> i think that's exactly right. there certainly were some disruptions on the floor of the convention last week and we saw it while several people were speaking and general allen shouted out the protesters. >> and i don't know how many viewers at home had the chants of usa, usa were drowned out. those were not people who were likely to vote for her regardless and they are making the bet, the campaign that i think maria is right, their bet is and we will see whose bet is right, yes, we are saying the status quo is okay and there is more to be done, but it's not that bad and usually the more optimistic message wins. >> we have to take a quick break and we'll have more on the panel and we'll expand on tone and whatever your political beliefs and the contrast to how each candidate sees the world and how they portray the world on stage and what voters make of it all. also we're braj bringing the
5:17 pm
campaign trail and donald trump at the top of the hour. we'll be right back. you don't know this yet but in fifteen hundred miles, you'll see what you're really made of. after five hours of spinning and one unfortunate ride on the gravitron, your grandkids spot a 6 foot banana that you need to win. in that moment, you'll be happy you partnered with a humana care manager and got your health back on track. because that banana isn't coming home with you until that bell sings. great things are ahead of you when your health is ready for them. at humana, we can help you with a personalized plan for your health for years to come. that's you could wearstrong, dudthem a second day.n...keeps charmin ultra strong. it's 4 times stronger, and you can use up to 4 times less. enjoy the go with charmin. ♪
5:18 pm
(vo) you can pass down a subaru forester. (dad) she's all yours. (vo) but you get to keep the memories. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
5:19 pm
♪ every time a pga tour professional sinks a hole-in-one, quicken loans is giving one lucky winner reason to celebrate. one shot from them. one mortgage-free year for you. it's the quicken loans hole in one sweepstakes and you could be the next winner. enter today at pgatour.com/quickenloans for your chance to win a year's worth of mortgage payments.
5:20 pm
welcome back. donald trump as you heard a moment ago had harsh words for hillary clinton's acceptance speech and last night hillary clinton was no kinder to his, that as we discussed before the break the two candidates and two conventions could not have sounded more different. take a look. >> our convention occurs at a moment of crisis for our nation. the attacks on our police and the terrorism of our cities
5:21 pm
threaten our very way of life. >> now -- now america is once again at a moment of reckoning. we have to decide whether we will all work together so we can all rise together. >> her plan will overwhelm your schools and hospitals, further reduce your jobs and wages and make it harder for recent immigrants to escape the tremendous cycle of poverty that they're going through right now. >> comprehensive immigration reform will grow our economy and keep families together and it's the right thing to do. >> nobody knows the system better than me which is why i alone can fix it. >> americans don't say i alone
5:22 pm
can fix it. we say we'll fix it together! >> two speeches, two conventions with the sound of it, totally different ways of looking at the world. let's talk about that with our panel. john, you certainly believe that the message -- the democrats say it was doom and gloom and you don't see what happened is doom and gloom. >> no. it's reality. 70% of the people believe this country is moving in the wrong direction. this is like aa. you first have to admit you have a problem and then fix it. we have a problem in america. our economy is not working, donald trump's message is very clear. it's about america first and putting americans back to work and making america strong again and then we can create some world order because we have a problem now, when america is weak the world is in chaos. >> yes. look, a majority of americans
5:23 pm
believe that we're headed in the wrong direction, but they all have different reasons for believing we're headed in the wrong direction and they blame the republicans and the congress. the republicans believe we're in the wrong direction because they blame barack obama. the majority agree for their own reasons that it should go in a different direction. >> talk about those numbers. >> look, we know the economy -- we all agree with some of the problems with the obama -- and these were two very different directions and let's continue to make the point from the person who is a republican and not a trump suspepporter that that convention didn't represent me or other republicans. i was watching that speech last night looking for comfort to vote for hillary clinton and to me, she fell short. i didn't think it was a great feat of oratory. we've been watching hillary clinton for 25 years and one speech won't change the way any
5:24 pm
of us think of her and the think is watching this contest. >> scotty, there are some republicans i've heard from who are concerned that the democrats did a good job of taking messages which traditionally are gop messages. >> i was delighted -- >> the criticism and national security, you know, a lot of the issues you wouldn't have -- faith, morality and you would normally hear at republican conventions. >> you would and you heard that a lot from the people on the stage and what was interesting to watch was the reaction from the crowd. >> you heard people when you had military out there that it did tack a lot of guts for them to do and you had people shouting at them shouting no more war. >> you're talking about a very small number of people in the audience. >> but it was still there, and the majority of americans said i don't want to be with someone that's shouting at the police officers. i want to stand with law enforcement and sit there and -- they know that that wasn't something that represented
5:25 pm
hillary clinton. let's show the respect for law enforcement. let's show our respect for the military. you did not hear that at the rnc. even if you did agree, what you heard -- hold on, what the republicans were doing was showing that we were more open minded than we've been -- >> oh, that is not a word -- >> when we invite someone to speak from our stage that traditionally in years past probably would not have had that position and they get a standing ovation for the words they say, that is a big step and we're starting to show diversity. >> there were 17 delegates. >> first of all -- first of all, there were very few people who wanted to talk at the republican national convention. >> that is not true. >> we had more speakers than we did with romney. >> secondly, the people that were focused and that were speakers at the democratic national convention were more diverse in those four days on that stage than what the republican party is as a whole and in terms of what people are
5:26 pm
looking for, and i do hope that you guys continue to think that donald trump's message is working because it did work for the primary, absolutely, but to maggie's point u you're not in the primary anymore and i hope you think you continue to be because we are the electorate and we're not doing it right now. >> your numbers oar on. >> let me raise that with mark. to scotty's point, the clinton campaign has spent millions in advertising in a lot of swing states and we haven't really seen that from donald trump's campaign and they haven't begun to unleash negative ads. how big of a concern is it? >> he has a wildly unconventional spending style and it was hard to handicap that and figure out what that means. he is a one-man walking negative ad and what he does every day, he's a proxy for those ads and traditionally that would be an interesting point and observation and it would be different in this context and they have different styles and approaches and hillary clinton hasn't moved the needle because
5:27 pm
she's not a thoroughly likable candidate and there are people who decided they'll hold their nose. >> we are waiting for the buck. >> i agree. >> i'm good. it is true that her numbers have not really moved beyond the roughly 45% where they are and that is a concern for her campaign and i have heard from several people and it's a problem she has had throughout her political career and her numbers stays the same until you're in a clear head to head and what is striking about this campaign so far is there are a very large number of undecided voters and you have candidates with historically high negatives and a very large pool that says i don't like many of them and they believe they won't end up voting and helping her given all of the other fact o but, look, it's going to be very, very close for a while unless, we are not going to know whether she got a bounce out of this
5:28 pm
convention for another week or so. >> we will talk later in the program. just ahead i will talk to doug elmets who spoke at the convention and he worked in the reagan white house and he delivered a blistering attack on donald trump. more on that ahead. in this country as hillary ccess clinton, and i want to say to her here and to president clinton and to thank my wife ann. stop... clicking around
5:29 pm
and start saving at hilton.com book direct... and get the lowest price online so guys with ed can... take viagra when they need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension. your blood pressure could drop to an unsafe level. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra single packs.
5:30 pm
schwarzkopf presents hair in 30 minutes? our most caring color collection: keratin color with keratin-care-complex. formulated for full gray coverage and up to 80% less hair breakage. ready to rejuvenate your hair? keratin color. from schwarzkopf. this clean was like - pow. everything well? it felt like i had just gone to the dentist. it just kind of like, wiped everything clean. my teeth are glowing. they are so white. crest [hd]. 6x cleaning, 6x whitening. and at two weeks superior sensitivity relief to the leading sensitivity toothpaste. i actually really like the two steps! crest [hd]. step 1 cleans, step 2 whitens. it's the whole package. no one's done this. crest - healthy, beautiful smiles for life.
5:31 pm
at the marine mammal center, the environment is everything. we want to do our very best for each and every animal, and we want to operate a sustainable facility. and pg&e has been a partner helping us to achieve that. we've helped the marine mammal center go solar, install electric vehicle charging stations, and become more energy efficient. pg&e has allowed us to be the most sustainable organization we can be. any time you help a customer, it's a really good feeling.
5:32 pm
it's especially so when it's a customer that's doing such good and important work for the environment. together, we're building a better california. looking there at tim kaine getting ready to introduce the woman at the top of the ticket in harrisburg, pennsylvania. hillary clinton made history when she accepted the nomination in an arena with tears and cheers. doug el mets marked his own milestone and he worked in the reagan white house and he said for the first time in his life he'll vote for a democrat and he urged republicans to do the same and he didn't mince words when he explained why. >> trump is a petulant, dangerously unbalanced reality star who will coddle tyrants and alienate allies. i am here tonight to say i knew
5:33 pm
ronald reagan. i worked for ronald reagan. donald trump, you are no ronald reagan. >> the message was aimed directly at people who tried to draw -- people like political commentator jeffrey lord who is not at the clinton rally. he and doug elmets worked in the reagan white house together. you guys are friends and i appreciate you both being with us. >> doug, how is it possible that two people who worked for president reagan could have such wildly different interpret eggs and the legacy as it relates to donald trump. >> nothing at all. reagan believed in a shining city on the hill and donald trump calls america a divided crime scene. so i just find it fascinating that jeff, who i have a great deal of respect for and others wrap themselves in the ronald
5:34 pm
reagan flag. it just doesn't fly. >> jeff, i want you to respond to that, but first, i want to play a clip about ronald reagan talking about the campaign. >> rather than making them or talking about putting up a fence, why don't we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with a work permit and while they're working and earning here they pay taxes here and when they want to go back they can go back and they can cross and open the border both ways by understanding their problems. this is the only safety valve right now they have with that unemployment that probably keeps the lid from blowing off down there, and i think we could have a fine relationship. >> reagan also did talk about border security, but how is donald trump following in reagan's tradition? not substance even, but tone. >> sure. let me just say to my friend doug, welcome aboard the other train, i guess.
5:35 pm
i, too, worked for ronald reagan and hillary clinton is no ronald reagan. >> you also worked for john heinz is my recollection, too. >> i did. >> who would probably be rolling over in his grave right now if he knew you were supporting donald trump. >> one of john hines' last conversations was that he was getting more conservative here. let me just say in terms of what we're talking about here with ronald reagan. that was 1980 and now it's 2016. the fact of the matter is we have a lot of changes for the negative and the bill that reagan signed into law in 1986 and i was there has not worked. so we need to do something else. >> but just overall. i'm not just talking about immigration and just how is donald trump reaganesque? >> they even have the same slogan. let's make america great again. that was on some of the reagan campaign buttons in 1980. >> so -- besides the slogan.
5:36 pm
>> jeff, can i say one thing? >> sure. to quote our old boss, there you go again. it is just not even believable to try and compare ronald reagan to donald trump and their personalities are so different. >> doug, doug, as i've said many times on anderson's show, no two human souls are alike. let's get over that. are there qualities about them? yes, there are. >> i guess, what are the qualities about donald trump that are like ronald reagan? >> well, ronald reagan was number one, competent unlike hillary clinton. just think for a moment of benghazi and grenada and ronald reagan literally sent in the marines and rescued those students. hillary clinton was responsible for the americans and they were killed. >> jeffrey, you're saying that both donald trump is reaganesque
5:37 pm
because reagan was competent and donald trump is competent? >> in listening back and forth about mayor bloomberg. he was proudly showing me picture was himself with mayor bloomberg opening this golf course in the bronx and it was quite clear that mayor bloomberg thought the world of him. i was looking at all of the material and suddenly he thinks he's insane. what was mayor bloomberg doing with him, then. >> donald trump said mayor bloomberg was a great mayor in his last year and now he's a terrible mayor. what you're saying is they're both competent. >> competence and to a degree, ideology. what doug is saying is he wants the supreme court to be in the hans of liberals for the next 60 years. ronald reagan would definitely roll over in his grave. >> doug, is that what you want? >> no, i didn't say that, jeff. >> that's what's going to happen if hillary is elected, right? >> i think that's a trojan horse.
5:38 pm
the reality is if we managed to maintain and the republicans madged to maintain the control of the senate and it's a guarantee that they're going to approve democrats, but i will just say this. there are so many differences between ronald reagan and donald trump in terms of personality. let's talk about the fact that donald trump -- >> let's not. >> let me say one thing that donald trump takes his own council which we know because he will solve all of the problems and where ronald reagan surrounded himself by great advisers and you probably know it, jeff, you were one. >> and it's such a different personal they we're dealing with and i just also think that i think what's happened is donald trump has hijacked the republican party and it's the party of trump and you know it as well as i do. >> doug, one of the reasons for this, and if i may be a gentle critic of our old boss and,
5:39 pm
quote, our friend ed rollins and he put george w. bush on the ticket and in his memoirs that he felt that the modern republican enemy had been invited in the camp and set up a secession of moderate republicans and the republican party has drifted left if you will all these years and you have the folks at the grassroots level who are sick and tired of it and the insiderdom and the lobbyists and consultants are tired of it. >> i don't necessarily disagree with you, jeff. i believe that donald trump is left of where george bush and ronald reagan ever were and frankly, i am not even sure he is within the realm of the current republican party. i mean, he didn't necessarily agree with many of the things that are on the party platform. . >> there was peter teal on there and there is a mark on where donald trump is for instance on
5:40 pm
lgbts, right? yes? >> i don't know where he is. i mean -- not you, anderson, i mean doug. >> i defer to you, jeff, because you're the one who knows most about donald trump. >> there was peter teal on the platform. i think that was a pretty, you know, pretty firm statement, and he said he thanked the republican party and as a republican for being so open about it. >>. >> of ronald reagan's sense of optimism and his view of america as doug referred to as a shining city on a hill. do you get any of that, jeffrey, from donald trump? >> i think he is a very optimistic man. >> but he has said in the most recent interview with the new york times that the u.s. shouldn't lecture about human
5:41 pm
ryes or tell turkey what the united states is, that doesn't sound like on f-- >> here's where i stand, geeky me looked at the acceptance speech of 1932 and fdr makes a pretty dark picture. i'm talking ronald reagan and donald trump. i am talking about presidential candidates who paint a dark picture of reality and this is a pretty bad real they we're in here and the need for change. it seemed like even in the darkest days and doug, correct me if i'm wrong, ronald reagan saw the best in america and ronald reagan talked about the best in america, and absolutely. that is the huge difference and ultimately, anderson and jeff, i think that will be the deciding decision that a lot of republicans will make on november 7th when they go into that polling booth. i really do believe that sanity will prevail on election day, and hillary clinton will get elected because she's more
5:42 pm
prepared to be president than really any in any other generation. >> she's got her e-mails all over the place and she killed people in benghazi and she's an incompetent person. what can i say? >> you're saying she actually killed people? >> she set up benghazi. she left those people there to die. yes. there was a benghazi survivor who was at the democratic national convention who was really angry about this. >> right. she left them there. she didn't go to rescue them. >> we have to take a quick break and we'll continue this conversation when we come back. we'll be right back. [brad] welcome to the apartments-dot-com pre-search facility! [pre-searcher #1] i just found a two-bedroom/two-bath right in uptown! [pre-searcher #2] nice! [pre-searcher #1] great! [brad] bingo! our pre-searchers are working so hard to find you an apartment before you even need one. hello, doctor. then there are pre-pre-searchers. they're finding buildings before they've even been built yet. those are such great kids...really. then there are pre-pre-pre-searchers. look at this. those are just babies, that's our nursery really.
5:43 pm
change your apartment...change the world!
5:44 pm
5:45 pm
welcome back and continuing the conversation with two colleagues who are now on the opposite side of the camp caaig. you said hillary clinton was responsible for the deaths if ben gassy and you're going further than the committee that investigated this. >> as i understood trey gowdy. >> there were bureaucratic inertia and there were lapses
5:46 pm
and they should have taken more security precautions and you just said she is responsible for their deaths. >> i assure you, if ronald reagan had invaded grenada and those kids were killed as a result or not killed as a result, you know, he would have been held responsible. >> there was a massive -- wasn't there a massive bombing? doug, correct me if i'm wrong, wasn't there a massive bombing at the embassy in lebanon under ronald reagan? >> there was. >> yes, was there and he was the responsible officer of the government and that is exactly right and he took the troops out of there and reacted and he set forth the plan later which, as a matter of fact, john is very much with donald trump and i've compared them. >> i'm not defending secretary clinton and it's what the house on benghazi said and anyway, doug, how hard was it for you to make this decision to actually, you know, come out of the closet, if you will and go on
5:47 pm
that stage and basically urge fellow republicans not to vote for donald trump? >> well, i will tell you, it wasn't as difficult as i thought it was going to be. you know, when donald trump disparaged john mccain i looked at my wife, and i said, that's the end of his campaign, and as i saw his campaign continue to pick up and he became the nominee i realized that i had to do something, and i remembered and jeff will remember this as well that in 1980 there were democrats for reagan, and i thought to myself well, why not republicans for hillary, and candidly i have become a big follower of hillary clinton. i do think that she will lead this country with a steady hand, and we all know and really tumultuous times, i just can't imagine giving the nuclear codes or frankly, the oval office seat as i said last night to a petulant, unbalanced reality tv star and that's really what he is. >> have you read gary burns'
5:48 pm
book about hillary clinton, doug? she sounds pretty petulant and temperamental to me. >> i think we should let the american people make that decision. >> i agree. >> there's no comparison. >> jeffrey, in terms of ronald reagan who spent a lot of time with public service. served as governor of california after his film career, he dedicated himself to serving the public and that's one of the things i think people admired him that he went from a film career to this. does donald trump's lack of really a lifetime of public service or any kind of real public service concern you at all? because he would be the first president who comes from a purely business background for quite some time. >> right. >> anderson, i was very inspired as a kid by president kennedy, and i kept a portrait on my office wall in the reagan white house and the whole ask not what you can do for your country, unfortunately, we've gotten to a point where people think that
5:49 pm
public service that just being and holding office is it. that's what you do. unfortunately, everybody else in america has to go live a life. they have to have businesses. they have to have jobs. that's what donald trump has done. hillary clinton has never done that for a day in her life. not once. she's never created a single job. she doesn't have a clue. >> i do think it says a lot about donald trump and frankly his emissaries that they have to spend most of the time trying to defend his actions and rather than talk about the things he's done. we can talk about the fact that he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth versus reagan who always believed in his humble roots and we can talk about his relationships with women which is embarrassing in and of itself. >> doug elmets and jeffrey lord. >> thanks, dougie. >> two other friends on opposite sides of presidential convention. chelsea clinton and ivanka trump. the question, is their friendship holding up behind
5:50 pm
enemy lines, so to speak. what donald trump said this afternoon when we continue. they think that it's sad. i think it's important for everyone to know that there is so much more to memory support than the stigmas you hearabout. that these residents still have lives and their lives still matter and that they are still living their lives. that they're not locked away and that they still have a lot to live for, you know, that they have people that care about them and they have people that love them and i love them, so (laughs). call now to find out how we can put our 30 years of understanding to work for your loved one today.
5:51 pm
the earth needed to find a new waytury, to keep up with the data from over 30 billion connected devices. just 30 billion? a bold group of researchers and computer scientists in silicon valley, had a breakthrough they called... the machine. it changed computing forever. and it's been part of every new technology for the last 250 years. everything? everything! this year, hewlett packard enterprise will preview the machine and accelerate the future. see star trek beyond. you doyou'll see whatet but in you're really made of. after five hours of spinning and one unfortunate ride on the gravitron, your grandkids spot a 6 foot banana that you need to win. in that moment, you'll be happy you partnered with a humana care manager and got your health back on track. because that banana isn't coming home with you until that bell sings. great things are ahead of you when your health is ready for them. at humana, we can help you with a personalized plan
5:52 pm
for your health for years to come. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today.
5:53 pm
otezla. show more of you. [ boss ] it is a very smart plan. so we're all on board? [ paul ] no. this is a stupid plan. hate drama? go to cars.com. research. price. find. only cars.com helps you get the right car without all the drama. back in the 2016 campaign trail, donald trump slammed hillary clinton's acceptae speech last night at the
5:54 pm
democratic national convention but did offer a tiny bit of praise for another clinton, chelsea clinton. >> i thought her daughter did very well, by the way, chelsea. i thought she did very well. my daughter likes chelsea and chelsea likes my daughter. what are you going to do? that's the way it is, right? that's okay. that's okay. my daughter likes chelsea. ivanka. ivanka did great, right? but i asked ivanka, i said do you like chelsea. i do, dad. really? no, i really do. i wish you didn't, it would be a lot easier. >> last night chelsea clinton introduced her mother at the democratic convention. a week earlier, ivanka trump of course did the same for her dad at the republican convention. born just two years apart, the two are indeed friends even though their parents are battling it out for the white house. tom foreman reports. >> lying crooked hillary. she is a liar.
5:55 pm
>> donald trump talks about make america great again. he doesn't make a thing in america except bankruptcies. >> amid the campaign's fury an unlikely alliance. ivanka trump and chelsea clinton, fierce political foes, steadfast personal friends. chelsea says it's so. >> our friendship had nothing, has nothing to do with politics. we were friends before this election, we will be friends after this election. >> and ivanka does, too, telling "people" magazine we are both incredibly supportive of our parents as we should be but we also continue to have great respect for one another. a dozen years ago, when their families were friends, the two met and found they had things in common. they still do. both are married, mid 30s with ivy league educations and children. both grew up with famous fathers facing personal turmoil and both have taken a deep interest in their parents' bid for the white house. indeed, introducing them at their party's conventions.
5:56 pm
>> my mother, my father and our next president -- >> hillary clinton. >> donald j. trump. >> reporter: but there are sharp political differences, too. for example, after ivanka praised her father's record for hiring and promoting women, promising he'll do the same as president -- >> he will fight for equal pay for equal work. >> reporter: her friend chelsea quickly shot back. >> how would your father do that? given it's not something he's spoken about, there are no policies on any of those fronts that you just mentioned on his website. >> reporter: with the race growing only nastier and each woman pushing so hard for her parent to win, it's fair to wonder if their cross-party friendship can survive. >> a man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons. >> i just beat 16 people and i'm beating her.
5:57 pm
>> reporter: amid the scorching rhetoric, ivanka says they have not seen each other lately, although asked about a daughter summit to ease campaign tensions, chelsea said -- >> it's certainly something i would consider. >> reporter: not a bad idea. after all, thomas jefferson famously said he never thought anyone should lose a friend over politics. tom foreman, cnn, philadelphia. >> there's a lot more ahead in the second hour of "360." we are waiting for donald trump to take the stage in denver. we will take you there. calling all go-getters. all providers. drive with uber and make more than $300 a week by driving a few hours a day. calling all nine-to-fivers and night owls. with uber - a little drive goes a long way. start earning this week. go to uber.com/drivenow and these are the lungs. (boy) sorry. (dad) don't worry about it.
5:58 pm
(vo) at our house, we need things that are built to last. that's why we got a subaru. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. schwarzkopf presents color ultîme. a model needs vibrant hair color to light up the runway. its color blend formula locks pigment in for brilliant, vibrant colors. discover runway colors that last. color ultîme, developed with claudia schiffer. from schwarzkopf. clicking around and start saving at hilton.com book direct... and get the lowest price online
5:59 pm
6:00 pm