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>> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." it's friday, august 5th. chris and alisyn are off today. i'm john berman here with poppy harlow. first, president obama unloading on donald trump anew. donald trump, he believes, is unfit to hold the nation's highest office. the president dismissed trump's claim that the november election will be rigged. the president called that ridiculous. >> the president also facing tough questions about whether or not that $400 million payment to iran was indeed ransom in exchange for those four u.s. prisoners. this as trump repeats and repeats a false claim about actually seeing a video of that cash transfer in tehran without any evidence of it actually existing. we begin our coverage this morning with phil mattingly. he's doubling down, tripling down on that video. >> yeah, no question about it. first and foremost, this has really been the week that barack obama, the president of the united states, has dropped all pretense about his true feelings when it comes to donald trump. and that was on clear display
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thursday during a news conference where he warned, he scolded, and he criticized trump in harsh terms. >> of course the elections will not be rigged. what does that mean? >> reporter: president obama outright ridiculing donald trump's warning to supporters that the presidential election could be rigged. >> if mr. trump is suggesting that there is a conspiracy theory that is being propagated across the country, that's ridiculous. that doesn't make any sense. i've never heard of somebody complaining about being cheated before the game was over. if mr. trump is up 10 or 15 points on election day and ends up losing, then maybe he can raise some questions. that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. >> reporter: trump firing back on twitter, saying president obama should ask the dnc about how they rig the the election against bernie, but obama didn't
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stop there. the president doubling down on his charges that trump is unfit to be commander in chief, questioning whether he can be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear trial. >> reporter: the president conceding that no matter what happens in november, he will help his replacement. >> if somebody wins the election and they are president, then my constitutional responsibility is to peacefully transfer power to that individual. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, trump insists it's hillary clinton who lacks the judgment after her previous e-mail controversy. >> hillary clinton, furthermore, can never be trusted with national security. >> reporter: despite the nasty campaign rhetoric, president obama says trump should receive national security briefings afforded to nominees but warned him to watch his words. >> if they want to be president, they got to start acting like
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president, and that means being able to receive these briefings and not spread them around. >> and in talking to democrats familiar with the president's thinking, there are really two issues yesterday that he was traying to hit on. first, the political, obviously, falling right in line with the clinton campaign, trying to paint donald trump as temperamentally unfit for office. but there was also personal. advisers saying very clearly the president thinks donald trump is not only dangerous but simply not able to carry out the duties of president. we'll see how people in the campaign trail actually receive that. >> almost mocking donald trump, saying he's up 10 or 15 points on election day and then loses, you know, call me then. when in fact, the president knows the contrary is the case. two new national polls show hillary clinton building on her lead over donald trump. this new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll has clinton nine points ahead. there's another poll showing a
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15-point lead for hillary clinton. let's discuss this now with errol louis, jackie kucinich, and phil mattingly, still here. >> can't get rid of me. >> 90 seconds after his piece is over. donald trump says the system is rigged. president barack obama scoffed at the notion, errol. why does donald trump keep bringing this up? >> i think in some ways he's got nowhere else to go. he's got to explain why he's 15 points down in this poll. obviously if the numbers were reversed, the system would not be rigged. you'd be saying that, you know, very strong numbers and it shows we've got a lot of support. he's got to give some explanation to his supporters. so i think that's at least part of it. also, it's part of his core argument. the system can't be trusted, the system can't be fair, and this is partly why, you know, part of the outrageous situation that requires you all to support me.
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this is something he's been saying to his supporters really pretty much from the beginning. so it's really all of a piece. it doesn't advance him, i think, one bit toward actual victory, but i think it's something we've heard from him before. >> rigged is a word that has worked in 2016. rigged is a word that elizabeth warren uses. rigged is a word that bernie sanders used. rigged is the word that donald trump in a way used to dig himself out of that hole during the primaries he found himself in after wisconsin. he said the republican primary caucus system was rigged against him. that did rally support. so maybe he's dipping back into that well. >> well, in trump vocabulary, when things aren't going well for him, it be means it's unfair. he says that consistently. he says it about journalists. he says it about his opponent. he says it about the world at large. so and so has been very unfair to me. the judge has been very unfair to me. no, actually, the judge just ruled against you. i think we're going to hear a lot more about what's unfair in the world according to donald trump. once you understand how to translate it, all it means it he's had a bad couple news cycles. >> he's falling into a trap we
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saw mitt romney fall into. he's looking at his rallies and seeing these rallies overflowing with people and thinking that's going to translate into votes. it doesn't. when mitt romney informs pennsylvania those last two weeks of the campaign, me looked outside and saw these people hanging out of a parking garage and said, wow, i think i can win this thing. donald trump is falling into that trap a little bit. >> and we know from the data that people think that things are going badly are less motivated to get to the polls than those that think things are going well. that could be troublesome. when you look at these battleground states, it's fascinating, phil. look at michigan. not only did you see this big divide, clinton 41, trump 42, but one of the pollsters said in michigan they saw a shocking amount of republicans supporting clinton in very traditionally republican areas there. >> no question about it. look, i think there's a couple things when you look at michigan and pennsylvania that are severely problematic for the trump campaign. these are the two states that fit the so-called voter profile
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of older white, maybe labor oriented, blue collar, former democrats who could come over in a big way and help him swing states that republicans haven't won in a number of cycles into his category. these polls not only looking like that's not going to happen or at least not happening in a big enough way to make a substantial difference, but also going even further where you're noting, republicans in suburban areas starting to move towards hillary clinton. that's a problem if it's happening in michigan and pennsylvania and something that could start happening in places like ohio. that becomes severely problematic for any chance. >> but you heard sam clovis say on the show yesterday, it's still early, come back and talk to me after labor day. >> it is early. the problem is, when you see 15 points in a poll, republicans get nervous. senators get nervous. congressmen get nervous. then they start spending money running away from donald trump like mike hoffman did yesterday. republican congressman saying i don't like donald trump. that's hurtful to him. hillary clinton, you know, you look at the polls, she's having
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a good week. some things not getting so much attention is the language she keeps on using about her e-mail. she did an interview with a local affiliate a couple days ago. i want to show you what she said. i'm going to read it. as the fbi said, everything that i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful with what i've told them. so look at that closely. she's saying the fbi has said that everything i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful. look what the fbi actually did say. james comey, what he actually did say in testimony before congress. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails, either sent or received. was that true? >> that's not true. >> secretary clinton said i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. was that true?
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>> no, there was classified material e-mailed. >> director comey said my answers were truthful and what i've said is consistent with what i have told the american people. >> now, fbi director james comey did say everything she told the fbi was truthful. >> but that's the important part. cherry picking. what she told the fbi, not what she told the american people. >> she used this language to chris wallace on sunday and got criticized. but she's still using it. >> yes, she is. i'm not sure she's going to get very far on this particular issue. look, in the end -- and she won't say this out loud, but i think the strategy suggests she knows he's not running for most trustworthy american. she's running for president, which is sort of different. as we've seen, there can and is a divergence between is this person trustworthy to you, and are you going to vote for this person for president. the polls can show her with a
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15-point advantage. that same poll shows people have some real serious doubts about her trustworthiness. as usual, i think what we're going to see her try and do is change the subject, if she can, or distort it if she must, but really try to get people to think about something else, which is do you think she cares about you, does she have programs you might relate to, and are you going to vote for her for president? >> and that's the one number that's not moving. we're not seeing a huge jump. it's a point here and there, but we're not seeing the honest and trustworthy numbers move. maybe she's moved on at this point from that. >> all right, guys. stick around. a lot more to discuss. >> a lot more ahead. all right. doubling down. donald trump doubling down on this false claim, you heard it, he said it yesterday, that he saw a video of iranian officials unloading pallets of cash in iran for the exchange of u.s. prisoners. >> it's interesting because a tape was made. you saw that with the airplane coming in. nice plane. the airplane coming in and the
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money coming off, i guess, right. that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us? because they want to embarrass our country. >> all right. so that was yesterday in maine, but he said the same thing a day earlier in florida. his own campaign coming out, acknowledging actually that video does not exist. our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto live in washington with more this morning. good morning, jim. >> good morning, poppy. that's right. his own campaign contradicting the candidate. also, earlier this morning john kerry asked about this tape, said he won't respond to it because it doesn't exist as well. but donald trump sticking to that story. this as the president faces very hard questions about whether there was any connection between this payment of iranian foezroz asset, which did happen, whether there was any connection between that and the release of the americans. the president giving a strong response yesterday at the pentagon. >> we have a policy that we don't pay ransom.
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>> reporter: president obama vehemently denying accusations that the $400 million paid to iran was ransom, reiterating that it the u.s. has never paid for the release of american prisoners. >> the notion that we would somehow start now in this high-profile way and announce it to the world, even as we're looking into the faces of other hostage -- families whose loved ones are being held hostage and say to them that we don't pay ransom defies logic. >> reporter: and insisting his administration has been transparent about the cash payment that occurred on the same day that four american prisoners were released. >> we announced these payments in january, many months ago. there wasn't a secret. this wasn't some nefarious deal. >> reporter: the payout reigniting criticism of the
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administration's deal with iran to stop its nuclear program. >> by all accounts, it has worked exactly the way we said it was going to work. you'll recall that there were all these horror stories about how iran was going to cheat and this wasn't going to work and iran was going to get $150 billion to finance terrorism and all these kinds of scenarios, and none of them have come to pass. >> reporter: staunchly defending his handling of foreign affairs, highlighting gains in the war against isis. >> isis has not had a major successful operation in either syria or iraq in a full year. even isil's leaders know they're going to keep losing, and their message to followers, they're increasingly acknowledge they may lose mosul and raqqah. isil is right, they will lose them. >> on the question of why this payment was in cash, the
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president said that's because iran was cut off from the international banking system, there could not be a transfer. that was a sign the sanctions were working. >> jum sciutto, thanks so much. we'll have more on the president and iran. plus, sex, lies, and videotape, minus the sex. the videotape that donald trump says exists of this cash exchange for hostages and a plane he describes in great detail. the only thing is, there's no tape of that at all, next. (man) what i love about the tempur-breeze bed is it's cool. you're not too hot, too cold, you're just perfect. you just get in and it naturally adapts to your body and creates the perfect temperature for you. (vo) sleep cooler, wake more refreshed. discover the new temper-breeze. he wrecked the rec room this summer. his stellar notebooks will last through june.
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welcome back to "new day." donald trump repeating once again a false claim that he watched top secret video of iranian officials unloading cash in exchange for u.s. prisoners. watch. >> you know what's interesting, a tape was made. the airplane coming in, nice plane. the airplane coming in and the money coming off, i guess, right. that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us, because they want to embarrass our country.
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>> all right. so his own campaign, also secretary of state john kerry, disputing that. the trump campaign came out saying there is no tape. jackie, let me begin with you. there is no tape. that is clear. so, a, what's the strategy doubling down, but b, and perhaps even more significant for his campaign when you look at the polls right now, isn't this a big missed opportunity for him to focus on where the actual outrage is over the actual facts that we know that all the other republicans are harping on and he's talking about a videotape? >> when does donald trump not double down? and we've seen this over and over and over again where he is failing to take advantage of something, a misstep by the administration, a misstep by hillary clinton. i mean, we just played the sound from the chris wallace interview where she mischaracterized, if not worse, what she said -- what the fbi said.
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he didn't jump on that. i think that's why you see consternation and frustration from republicans, saying it's right there, just take it. >> the first day you do it, it's a mistake. the second day you do it when everyone in the world said it doesn't exist and you go into even greater detail, it's just bizarre. but jim sciutto, to the actual substance of the iran situation right now, and there's a lot going on there. republicans are outraged. they say this shows there was a quid pro quo. this is paying ransom to get hostages back. president obama was completely dismissive of that entire notion yesterday. >> he was. and listen, there are some things it that he said that are just straight up true. one, there were two negotiation tracks, two different teams. one handling the hostages, one handling this money. two, this is key. this was not actually u.s. money. it was iranian money paid for an arms deal that never went through back in the time of shah in the '70s, basically sitting there, $400 million and accruing
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interest over time. so that goes to that point. but the trouble is the timing. that money released on the same day the hostages are released, even his own department of justice protesting internally, saying this looks bad, and listen, iran has a history of this, a history of taking people, imprisoning them on false charges. they're basically hostage, bargaining chips, and using them as bargaining chips to get other concessions, whether it's iranians freed or something else. so that connection is one that if it's not technically true, at least it looks -- it certainly looks very bad, but you could also make a credible argument that had that money not been released on that day, that maybe those prisoners would not have been released. in the spirit of the law, it did -- may very well have been a quid pro quo. >> so errol, some of the words that the president used yesterday, he said, and i'm paraphrasing, you know, this looks like a spy novel, this looks like something much more than it is, you're making far
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too much out of this. did you feel at all that he was writing off the legitimate concerns that many of his opponents have by phrasing it in that way? >> sure, he was clearly trying to get past this because it's awkward. jim is exactly right. the art of diplomacy in this kind of case is to make it seem as if there is no quid pro quo, although the timing to any outside observer, you know, makes it obvious that it is. and that is, in fact, the nature of diplomacy. if you think about spy exchanges and that sort of thing, you know, somebody has to go first. everybody understands it's going to be choreographed. the choreography happens and everybody just kind of moves on. that's what the president is trying to do to get everybody to just move on. he has, in this case, somebody in the form of donald trump who could be the leading critic with a great platform to call attention to what's wrong with this or what's troubling about, this and of course as we just noted, trump is in no position to do it because he kind of bobbled all the facts related to this. so now he's not going to be the person to fact check this, drive home a point, and call for
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greater consistency. >> i like this discussion. this is an important discussion about u.s. foreign policy, about what the u.s. should and shouldn't do. this is the type of thing that should be debated in a campaign. there should be a difference of opinions here. so in that sense, you know, it's refreshing to see this discussion go on. i'm curious, jackie, what the clinton campaign thinks of all this. they point out, hey, hillary clinton, she wasn't actually secretary of state when this cash was exchanged. he wasn't part of the negotiation on that track, if there were three different tracks of the obama administration. she wasn't part of that third $400 million track. so there's a little bit of distance they're trying to create, even as they say we believe the president on all of this. >> they've pulled the president so close in this campaign, i don't know that it matters that these details matter, particularly to voters who matter at the end of the day. again, i think you hear a lot of other republicans making this case and saying over and over again, look, this -- she is tied
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to this no matter what because she's tied to the iran deal in a lot of ways. but at some point, this has to come from the republican nominee for president. and he just hasn't picked up that mantle. >> and a u.s. official came out yesterday and told elise labott it's, quote, unknowable if the prisoners would have been released if this cash hadn't come over. that's from a u.s. official saying, all right, we don't totally know, but they were separate tracks. jim sciutto, senator tom cotton of arkansas said this breaks with long-standing u.s. policy to put a price on the head of americans, and it has led iran to continue illegal seizures. so he's capitalizing on what many say trump could have capitalized on, making americans less safe. >> and listen, it's a vulnerable point, right. after those americans were released, another iranian-american, dual national, was taken by iran under really
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specious charges, along with the others. who knows what iran might be holding him for down the road. the fact s there are two points of view on this, as john says. but it's a substantive argument. you know, it's one that deserves to be had, of course. instead, we're talking about a video that never existed. >> right. jim sciutto, great to have you with us. errol, jackie, thanks so much. all right. let the games begin. tonight is the night. the opening ceremony for the 2016 summer olympics in rio. been overshadowed a little by pot ticks here in the united states. the opening ceremony just hours away. michael phelps will lead team usa into the parade of nations. what else can we expect? we'll bring yo uhu a live repor from rio next. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love.
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good morning. what are we looking ahead to tonight in rio? >> reporter: good morning to you, poppy. it's really not that great here. you're not missing that much. now, we're talking about the opening ceremony just hours away. the usa will be led by one of the greatest athletes to ever walk the planet, michael phelps. when he heard he had been selected by his peers, he said he cried. he's walking in the opening ceremony for the first time, in his fifth and final olympic games. the opening ceremony is going to be quite the show. rio, ready to showcase some of brazil's best, like samba legend elsa suarez, mc sophia and super mod model giselle bundchen.
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once his flag bearing duties are over, we'll get to witness the most decorated olympian in history one more time. american swimmer michael phelps, who's looking to add to the record 22 olympic medals that have already been placed around his neck. >> my emotions will be ten times what they've ever been. >> reporter: another global superstar making his final olympic appearance, the aptly named usain bolt. the jamaican has blazed trails on tracks that are unmatched by anyone in history. will it be three more golds for bolt? and perhaps one of the most highly anticipated olympic debuts we've ever seen, american gymnast simone biles. the 19-year-old is the first african-american to ever become a world all-around gymnastics champ, and she's already done that three times. cannot wait to watch simone biles and crew, the fierce five. opening ceremony starts tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern.
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one thing to look out for, team usa's attire, what they're going to be wearing. catching a lot of heat on social media. that'll be something to look out for. but it's going to be so much energy, passion from here in rio for the opening ceremonies. >> who cares what they're wearing? they're incredible athletes. coy, thank you so much. we appreciate it. back to politics next. you heard it yesterday. he talked a lot about donald trump, but president obama also answering critics of the iran nuclear deal at his pre-vacation news conference. is the agreement really working as well as the administration says it is? we'll dig into that next. he is. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you.
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president obama taking on critics of the iran nuclear deal, saying it is working as planned. he did this in a wide-ranging news conference. the president also talked about the war on isis. he says progress is being made. joined this morning by lieutenant general and cnn military analyst mark hertling and phil mudd, cnn counterterrorism analyst, a man who's worked in the cia and fbi and other dark places we're only beginning to learn about. phil, i want to start with you and talk about the iran situation.
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$400 million in cash, which we knew was going to iran, but what we learned in the last week is that it arrived within hours of four american hostages being released from iran. republicans, including donald trump, highly critical of this timing. listen to donald trump. >> 400 million in cash being flown in an airplane to iran. i wonder where that money really goes, by the way, right. i wonder where it really goes. well, it went either in their pockets, which i actually think more so, or toward terrorism. probably a combination of both. >> phil, you have an interesting take on this. you just say this is the business, this is the life we've chosen. this is the kind of thing that happens in deals like this. >> well, there's a couple things to think about here, john. first of all, we're talking about going into a negotiating room, and we as americans tend to believe we walk into a negotiating room, whether it's with the iranians or the russians, and say, here's the deal, here's how it's going to
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go, sign on the bottom line. the iranians say, you've frozen assets since right after the revolution 35 years ago, we want our assets back that we paid you. you never gave us the material we paid for. they say later, we'll release hostages. this isn't exactly a hostage for money deal. i understand the optics look bad, but this is a diplomatic deal. it's got to be done if you want to get those people out. the second thing i'd say, john, is people thinking $400 million is significant. that's chump change. the sanctions mean iran can get tens of billions of dollars from returning to the oil market. $400 million is a lot to pay. i understand from the optic of an every day american. in the world of iran with its return to the oil market, it's not a significant amount of money. >> phil, ransom and hostages is something i know you've thought a lot about. it's deeply personal to you. you probably have personal connections to it we might never learn about. what's the difference between ransom, which is a loaded word, and a quid pro quo that those hostages would not have been released had that money not been delivered.
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>> there's a couple differences. first, we're dealing with a government, we're not dealing with a terrorist organization. second, i think this is subtle but significant. we didn't pay for hostages. we paid to resolve a diplomatic dispute that goes back right after the iranian revolution. what the iranians would say is we have a right to get money when we never received what we paid for. then they're going to say at another diplomatic table, hey, it's about time we released these hostages. this is not as clean as it should be. the white house looks bad, but i understand what they're doing here. they're saying, if we want to get something, we've got to give something. >> general hertling, i want to ask you about something else the president talked about, the battle against isis, a battle that the president insists is going well. listen to how he talked about it yesterday. >> isil has not had a major successful offensive operation in either syria or iraq in a full year. even isil's leaders know they're going to keep losing. in their message to followers, they're increasingly acknowledging they may lose m
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mosul and raqqah, and isil is right. we will keep pushing them back and driving them out until they do. in other words, isil turns out not to be invincible. they are, in fact, inevitably going to be defeated. >> this is so interesting, general. it's one of the heaviest lifts of the obama presidency and one of the most challenging and questionable things for some critics that he's trying to do, which is to say everything is going well against isis, as there are attacks in orlando by isis-inspired killers, attacks in nice by isis-inspired killers. attacks all over the world that people are looking at by isis-inspired killers. the president gives a news conference and says the war against isis is going well. it's complicated, isn't it? >> it's extremely complicated, john. i'm going to take a page from phil mudd's book and give you three things. first of all, what the president said was there's significant attrition on the battlefield in iraq and syria. that is, in fact, true.
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in fact, it's been much faster and more significant than i would have expected a year ago, if you would have described it to me. they're about to take mosul. i think the iraqi security forces will launch an attack, a major operation into mosul within the next 60 to 90 days. and that's significant. but then you have, as you just say, the expansion of isis into other areas, specifically north africa. that's critically important, and they're doing it in a very different way. but they need geography. if they're going to claim themselves a state, they need some place to put their flag, and they're having difficulty in doing that. at the same time, they're coopting other terrorist organizations. good god, they've asked boko haram, who's pledged allegiance to isis. bo koe h boko haram is just a thug gang who like to kill people for money. yet they're associated with isis. the third area, he said they're adapting their tactic, and they
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are. two years ago we saw major forces of isis rolling across the desert in trucks with flags and major pieces of military equipment. now you're seeing them shoot in twos and threes. that's unfortunate, but it's an adaptation of a terrorist organization. >> all right. thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it, guys. poppy? >> up next, breaking news. a cargo plane crashing through a fence on to the road. these incredible pictures and details from where it happened, next. ♪ ♪ only those who dare drive the world forward. introducing the first-ever cadillac ct6.
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♪ "show me the latest medal count?" ♪ ♪ xfinity's where it's at. ♪ welcome to it all. comcast nbcuniversal is proud to bring you coverage of the rio olympic games. all right. breaking news this morning out of italy. a cargo jet appears to have overshot the runway at an airport in northern italy. it crashed through the fence before finally stopping in the middle of the highway. officials say there were only two crew members on board because it was a cargo plane. neither suffered significant injuries. investigators are trying to figure out how this could have happened. we have more breaking news. this story out of georgia. a father was arrested and charged in the death of his twin girls. police say the toddlers were left in a hot car for a long period of time outside a duplex. they say the father put the 15-month-olds in a kiddie pool
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to try to revive them. the medical examiner will perform autopsies on the girls later today. and the man hunt for the notorious mexican drug lord joaquin guzman el chapo was filled with very close calls, brick walls, and underground tunnels. authorities eventually recaptured el chapo after he managed to escape two maximum security prisons. a new cnn documentary takes you inside it all, gives you a front-row seat to the search for el chapo. here's our chris cuomo. [ gunfire ] >> reporter: before dawn in the northern mexican city, 15 elite mexican marines bust into what seems like a normal middle-class home, looking for one of the world's most wanted criminals. the drug lord they call el chapo, or shorty. a man with an uncanny ability to
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evade capture and a loyal army of heavily armed thugs. it's bullets flying everywhere, so the team has to split in h f half. half goes down this way where there's a bedroom. the other half has this difficult task of trying to make it up these stairs. in this bathroom they came to and just bashed it open. they find a woman in here. there's another woman back there. but el chapo is not anywhere on this floor. downstairs, the other team moves through the hallway. you're now in the bedroom that the men were most fiercely defending. they did not want the teams to get in here. when the marines do get in, they find two men armed with
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semiautomatics. suddenly the men change their tune and no longer want to fight. they want to surrender. in the closet, they find two more men, who also surrender. marines don't know it yet, but those men are buying time for the kingpin to escape. searching, marines find machine guns, rocket propelled grenade launchers and grenades. there are five dead guards and six others to arrest. but no el chapo. where is he? here's your answer. it looks like an ordinary closet, but it isn't. you see this up here? it says hood on it, like from an old car. when you pull it, this door pops open to reveal a signature el chapo move. a tunnel connected to the city's sewer system and to freedom.
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>> once again chapo escapes. >> reporter: el chapo slips into the escape hatch behind the mirror and runs about half a mile through the sewer, popping up from a manhole in the middle of a street. the billionaire and his guard carjacked the first ride they can find. this blurry video shows it happening. they flee, realize they've been spotted, ditch it, steal another, head out of town, and don't make it. >> got to watch it tonight. that cnn exclusive special report "got shorty: inside the chase for el chapo," it is sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on cnn. >> all right. new polls out finding hillary clinton gaining a lot of ground in some of those critical battleground states. will the numbers stick? also, a tweet this morning from donald trump. you're going to want to hear what it said, next.
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new polls including this one from fox showing a clear advantage for clinton. can trump close the gap? our keyung la live in denver with more. what are they saying? >> reporter: good morning, poppy. team trump not willing to concede anything, saying this state has a very strong independent streak and the state's nine lek trorl votes will be won by capturing those voters. in the battleground state of colorado, the ground war -- >> i'm getting people registered to vote. >> reporter: taking aim with real and augmented retail politics. clinton campaign workers playing pokemon go to register potential voters. and using other attention-getting draws. a cello? for real? >> a cello. you just have to be unique, especially in a battleground state like colorado. >> reporter: battleground colorado twice elected president bush and gave obama back-to-back victories. this year the state is showing
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signs of leaning democratic. some recent polls give hillary clinton a double-digit lead. another potential advantage, since 2012, democrats have registered more voters than republicans. and the ranks of latino voters continues to grow up to 15.3%, higher than the national average. 14 clinton campaign offices are up and running in the state. hundreds of workers are on the payroll. the operation expected to triple by early october. >> we're not going to take anything for granted. for us, our ground game is critical. >> reporter: democrats have spent 5.6 million on colorado tv ads, while trump supporters have spent 232,000. the clinton cam now pulling tv ads, saying trump isn't on the air waves or frankly on the pavement. >> are you seeing the trump operation out there? >> no, i haven't. >> reporter: the trump plan in colorado is far different. yes, there are some workers knocking on doors, but only a handful are on the payroll. most are volunteers.
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the trump campaign has just five offices, relying instead on an extensive republican national, state, and local network in place since 2013. the campaign not worried about being outgunned in the traditional ground game. >> her game plan is the same old tired, worn out paradigm we've seen for years and years and years. trump brings a brand new level of energy. colorado will be decided in large by a group of people in the middle of america. >> reporter: in colorado, more than one-third of voters are registered independents,like mark saban. he supports trump. >> i will do it as an independent. i will contribute directly to donald trump. i do not contribute to the gop. >> reporter: loyalty to trump, not party, an x factor not lost on both sides. and with both candidates having high unfavorability numbers, it's leaving some independent voters uncertain of which way they'll go in november. >> i'm not sure i'd want either of them as president, but -- >> so how are you going to
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decide? >> i don't know. i guess the lesser of two evils. >> reporter: and we heard that from a number of independent voters here in colorado. they know what they don't like. now they want something to like. poppy? >> interesting. a third of the electorate there registered as independents. those are the voters the candidates are fighting over. fascinating report. thank you so much. all right. following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> i'm afraid the election is going to be rigged, i have to be honest. >> if mr. trump is suggesting there's a conspiracy theory, that's ridiculous. >> anyone you can provoke with a tweet should not be anywhere near nuclear weapons. >> they probably paid the 400 million for the hostages. >> there wasn't a secret. this wasn't some nefarious deal. >> how stupid are we? >> i'm having the time of my life. >> the final countdown to the start of the summer olympics. >> this time around will be a lot more emotional than past games. >> we speak to gold medalist shawn johnson.
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>> a terrifying landing in dubai. >> watch out, watch out! leave your things behind! >> two survivors tell us about their frantic fight to get out alive. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." chris and alisyn are off. john berman and i are here with you. a lot of news this morning. donald trump just minutes ago walking back false claims in a rare move. he just tweeted, admitting he actually never saw video of a plane delivering $400 million in cash to iran. >> a video that donald trump described at length at least twice on the campaign trail. now he says he didn't see it like that. cnn's jim sciutto joins us live in washington with the tweet and these breaking details. jim? >> well, john, we were talking about this just moments ago. moments later, here is donald
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trump's new response on this via twitter. he says, the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane in geneva, switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash going to iran, exclamation point. now, just for sake of fact, let's play his actual comments yesterday, which was a repeated story in effect about what he saw on that video. let's have a listen. >> a tape was made, right. you saw that with the airplane coming in. nice plane. the airplane coming in and the money coming off, i guess, right. that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us. because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. >> so two glaring misstatements of fact there. one, he did say in that statement yesterday in public that the plane had money coming off it, not hostages, as he says in the tweet. he also says that this tape was somehow given to us by the
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iranians. again, now in the tweet he says not given to us by the iranians but something he saw on television. the question here, john and poppy, is this tweet an admission of guilt in teseffectr is he re-creating the reality here, saying that i was never talking about money coming off that plane, i was always talking about it the hostages. it seems to me looking at that tweet that what he's saying is, no, no, i wasn't talking about money, i was talking purely about hostages. we'll leave that to the chattering classes and the rest of us to decide going forward. >> yeah, jim, and that's what his campaign said yesterday. he was talking about b-roll of the hostages. he doubled down on the cash video just a few hours later. we're going to parse through it this hour. thank you, jim. meanwhile, president obama blasting donald trump for saying that he fears this election could be rigged. but he said he will follow tradition and give national security reports to both trump and clinton.
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our phil mattingly is with us this morning. he has the details. >> good morning, poppy. we can call this week the weak where all pretense about president obama's true feelings regarding donald trump were completely dropped. that was on display yesterday in a news conference where he warned, he scolded, he critiq s critiqued, and he mock pd the republican nominee. >> of course the elections will not be rigged. what does that mean? >> reporter: president obama outright ridiculing donald trump's warning to supporters that the presidential election could be rigged. >> if mr. trump is suggesting that there is a conspiracy theory that is being propagated across the country, that's ridiculous. that doesn't make any sense. i've never heard of somebody complaining about being cheated before the game was over. if mr. trump is up 10 or 15 points on election day and ends up losing, then maybe he can raise some questions. that doesn't seem to be the case
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at the moment. >> reporter: trump firing back on twitter, saying president obama should ask the dnc about how they rig the the election against bernie, but obama didn't stop there. the president doubling down on his charges that trump is unfit to be commander in chief, questioning whether he can be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear trial. >> reporter: the president conceding that no matter what happens in november, he will help his replacement. >> if somebody wins the election and they are president, then my constitutional responsibility is to peacefully transfer power to that individual. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, trump insists it's hillary clinton who lacks the judgment after her previous e-mail controversy. >> hillary clinton, furthermore, can never be trusted with national security. >> reporter: despite the nasty
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campaign rhetoric, president obama says trump should receive national security briefings afforded to nominees but warned him to watch his words. >> if they want to be president, they got to start acting like president, and that means being able to receive these briefings and not spread them around. >> and john, in talking to democrats familiar with the president's thinking, you really saw two different issues on display yesterday. first is the political. absolutely buying into the clinton campaign's clear strategy to paint donald trump as temperamentally unfit to sit in the oval office. but also, white house advisers saying it's personal. he looks forward for the next four years and looks at his legacy and has great concern, they say, about what donald trump would bring to the office and to that legacy. john? >> phil mattingly, thanks so much. joining us to discuss, republican congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. a republican decidedly not
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endorsing donald trump. congressman dent, thank you for being with us this morning. i appreciate it. i want to ask you about this breaking news just over the last few minutes. donald trump seeming to back off something he said on the stump. just a few minutes ago he tweeted about the video he's been describing at length on the stump about what he had previously claimed was money being unloaded in exchange for hostages. now he says the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane in geneva, switzerland, not the plane carrying 400 million in cash going to iran. is this the type of honesty, is this the type of pivot, this the type of change in donald trump you would liking to see? are you happier about that or more concerned about a candidate who just yesterday will describe at length something he saw on a video which does not exist? >> well, first, john, thanks for having me on the show. i'm glad he clarified that statement, but the underlying issue still remains the same, which is that this was, in my
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view, clearly a ransom payment. this was a $400 million payment in exchange for hostages. the never ending iranian appeasement project continues unabated despite what donald trump may have said about what he saw. glad he clarified it. the fact remains that iranian behavior has not changed. three more americans have been taken. one legal permanent resident, a green card holder. this is very disturbing behavior. the iranian regime's behavior remains the same. i think that's the lesson we've all learned here. >> and that's a message you've been talking about the last 24 hours. the republican leadership as well. and donald trump has been pressing it too. but are you concerned he's not the right messenger when he includes, up until a few minutes ago, you know, word of a video that does not exist? >> well, certainly that's not helpful. obviously when we talk about these matters, we should try to be as factual and accurate as we can. the fact that he reversed himself on that, i think, is actually good news. he acknowledged a mistake. >> you knew last january when
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the president announced the culmination of all of this, it was announced at the time there was a cash transfer involved. you did know then that money was being sent to iran, isn't that correct? >> yes, we were aware of that. a $1.7 billion deal. we were not aware of the $400 million cash transfer. that was not divulged to us as far as i know. it's pretty clear to me this was a quid pro quo. the administration likes to deny that it was a quid pro quo, but even the iranian press report said this was clearly a payment, a ransom payment in exchange for the hostages or the prisoners. that was their take on it. >> david sanger back then did include that $400 million was going. i think what is new is the exact timing, that it arrived on the same day that the hostages were with released. >> correct. >> again, the administration says it wasn't a quid pro quo,
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although as you point out, they don't directly answer the question, would the hostages have been released had the money not be transferred. >> well, it was obviously a quid pro quo. the administration says this money is supposed to be yused fr infrastructure. we all know this money is going to be used to fund hezbollah and other foreign ventures in syria and elsewhere. we all know that. can i say that this precise money was used to fund that? well, iranians have access to other money too. but to deny this was a quid pro quo, i think, really flies in the face of the facts and the timing of this whole exchange, which is of course deeply troubling to so many of us. >> congressman, i want to talk about politics it and the polls. national polls showing donald trump down as much as 15 points in one national poll. in your home state of pennsylvania, a new poll from franklin and marshall has donald trump trailing by 11 points.
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there's a competitive senate race there. your friend pat toomey, you're up for re-election. always in a competitive district as well. how much of a drag, or is donald trump a drag on the ticket for you in pennsylvania? >> well, i've always felt in my case i have to run my own races. i've always run with -- sometimes there's been trouble at the top of the ticket, sometimes there's not. i have to run my own campaign. so does senator pat toomey. clearly when the top of the ticket is not doing well, it can have an impact down ballot. again, you're right. the numbers are spreading, and i think it's in part because of, you know, some of the antics we've seen in the campaign over the last week or so. so i would say to you that, you know, we're going to have to run very hard here. candidates like myself and pat toomey, we have to develop our own brands and sell our own message because it's clear that the -- you know, we're on our own in this election. >> paul ryan sent out a mailer
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yesterday, a fundraising mailer that's getting a lot of attention. i want to read you the script. if we fail to project a majority in congress, we could be handing president hillary clinton a blank check. again, that's a fundraising pitch from house speaker paul ryan. we could be handing president hillary clinton a blank check. is that an admission from the speaker that he thinks this race is just about over? >> well, i don't know what -- look, it's a fundraising piece. the speaker's intent is clear. he wants to maintain the house majority. he wants to remain speaker. he wants to maintain a majority in the senate. that is his goal. that is my objective. we must hold the congress regardless of what happens at the top of the ticket. we could be dealing with a president clinton or a president trump. i don't know what's going to happen in that election. obviously it doesn't look real good right now for the republican nominee. that being said, we need to maintain a check against the executive branch regardless of
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which party controls the white house. >> mike hoffman, congressman in colorado, has started running ads where he basically says i don't like donald trump. is it time for members in tough states to start running directly against him? >> that's up to each member in whatever particular congressional district they're running in. some members will have to put greater distance between themselves than others from the top of the ticket. i think he's going to exercise the best judgment that he knows. in my case, you know, all i can say is that i've made my statement, that i have my disagreements with donald trump because of all the incendiary comments, the lack of policy specifics, lack of general policy knowledge that have compelled me not to endorse or support his candidacy. of course, i'm not supporting hik under any circumstances, but i'll tell you that each of my colleagues, particularly those in the marginal and swing districts, will do what they must to women re-election.
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i suspect many of them will put some distance between themselves and the top of the ticket. >> congressman charlie dent from pennsylvania, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> poppy? >> coming up, president obama blasting critics who say the u.s. paid ransom to release u.s. prisoners in iran. we're talking about that $400 million exchange. will his answers quiet the controversy? likely not. also ahead, a couple that narrowly escaped death running from a plane that burst into flames in dubai right on the runway. you remember the video. we'll speak with two of the passengers who escaped that plane and survived to tell about it, next.
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president obama striking down critics who say that the united states paid quote/unquote ransom for four american prisoners held in iran. >> we announced these payments in january. many months ago. there wasn't a secret. we announced them to all of you. josh did a briefing on them. this wasn't some nefarious deal.
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we were completely open with everybody about it, and it's interesting to me how suddenly this became a story again. we do not pay ransom for hostages. >> let's discuss this. cnn political commentator, former cia counterterrorism analyst buck sexton is with us. cnn corporate jim sciutto is with us. and contributing editor to "the atlantic," peter beinart. the president says you, the pret press, are making too much of this. as you've reported, his own justice department was very uncomfortable with the optics of a plane filled with cash flying the same day, dropping it off that a plane was going the other way with hostages to geneva. his own justice department. >> no question, you have the optics there. the money going the same day. the president will say, and this is true, one, it was iranian money. it was part of billions of dollars in frozen assets going
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back to the '70s in this case. it wasn't u.s. money going there, one. two, separate negotiation tracks. one for the hostages, a separate one for these funds. so that's true. but when it happens on the same day, not only is it an optical issue, it's also a question, and it's a fair question. the president gave his answer, but we can ask the question. would those hostages have been released on that day had the u.s. not delivered on those funds, which the iranians have been demanding for years and years. that's a question. >> but jim, didn't a u.s. official tell our elise labott yesterday, and i quote, it's unknowable, if it would have happened if the money didn't come. >> she asked him that question. she said, listen, you know, you can say these are two separate negotiation tracks, which they were, but can you tell us, are you confident those americans would have been on that plane had the u.s. not arranged that payment on the same day, and
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that answer there, it's unknowable, makes this a substantive question. >> peter, two things can be true at the same time. it can be true that the president said that money was going to iran, which he did say. josh earnest did brief. it was written about in the "new york times." that can be true. it can also be true that the hostages would not have been released without that money. it could be there was a quid pro quo, correct? >> it's possible. so let's imagine this. let's say that they would not have been released if we had not ginn the money on that day. did the obama administration make the right call? i think they did make the right call. if they had not made that call, the u.s. was going to end up paying not only that money but probably more money down the road. remember, this had gone to a special international tribunal. the ap has reported that the obama administration was going to lose, which meant we were going to pay significantly more money than ultimately in this settlement and we wouldn't have gotten the hostages. ginn we were going to have to pay more money anyway and would have gotten nothing, i think this looks like a good deal. >> buck sexton, to you.
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>> when you look at the timeline that this was operating under, the notion that this was a coincidence, which is what the administration initially said, just doesn't pass the smell test. there's no way that they had these two negotiations going on and the left hand wasn't aware what the right was doing. >> i don't think they're saying the left hand wasn't aware. what they're saying is this was not a quid pro quo. >> no, i understand what they're saying but that's nonsense. the idea these two things somehow were coinciding just because they did is crazy. the day of the exchange of the cash and the day of the hostages coming back were obviously related because it looks bad. we're all aware of this. as jim sciutto was just saying before, it raises a question. why not avoid raising the question in the first place? why not say, we'll get you your cash, let's wait a little bit, this looks bad. if the reason is because the iranians wouldn't have done the deal, as peter is saying, then that s in fact a ransom. >> it's not though. it's not a ransom because it's their money.
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when you give people their own money, it's not a ransom. >> it is a ransom. first of all, they're not going to hold us upside down and shake the change out of our pocket. we could have continued on and gone to the tribunal and fought this longer. the administration saying it would be costly and difficult. they decided to give them this sum of money because they thought it was a better deal. that's all on the administration's side of the ledger. they wanted to do this because they wanted to get the rest of the deal in place. they thought it would look particularly strong and good. so they made this concession along with a whole burch of others, including the initial prisoner swap. the administration should just own up to it. they should say, look, we wanted to release this extra cash because it was a sweetener to get the deal done. at least be honest about the american people, then we can make our own judgments about whether this should have been done. >> we have some new sound from vice presidential candidate tim kaine who was pressed about this issue and what he would do if in office on something like this on
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"cbs this morning." let's play it. >> perception is one thing, reality matters more. we got hostages home, and we took a legal claim that was a legit claim and bargained it down to a fraction and paid that claim off. >> as vice president, you would agree to that same deal? you would let it happen? >> i should negotiate any legal claim we had and try to get the best deal and i would try to get american hostages home. >> he says perception is one thing, reality is another. when it comes to dealing with foreign actors, whether it be rogue nations or terrorists, isn't perception in some cases reality if they think they can take hostages and get money if they perceive that to be the case? isn't that dangerous? >> well, that is the issue here. that's the reason why the u.s. policy is and has been not to negotiate with terrorists over hostages because the point is if you do that, it would tempt more hostage taking down the line. that's the policy. now, the question is, over time,
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through the decade, when you deal with either difficult non-state actors or state actors, presidents have made decisions to deal with some pretty nasty characters. during the soviet times, there were hostage exchanges where the u.s. released nasty characters, right, to get americans freed. you look at israel, there were times when israel has released some dangerous palestinian militants to get israelis released, right. so these things have happened before. the question is, when does it cross that line to being something that tempts further hostage taking. and that's a fair question. >> so peter beinart, to that, does this make americans less safe? if you think back to comparisons that some are making to iran contra and saying look what happened in the wake of that, hezbollah taking more americans hostage in lebanon, could we see the same thing here? does this embolden iran, as jim said in the last hour, taking
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americans after the nuclear agreement was made? does this make americans less safe? >> no, i don't think so. again, because iran was on the way to getting a significant payoff anyway. probably a bigger payoff than they would have gotten in this case. i think the larger -- >> not about the money, the perception. >> we will see, but i think if perceptions are based on reality, if they're not based on reality, there's not a lot we can do about that. i think the larger reality here, and again i think one of the reasons people are going so hard after this is because they cannot -- what they can't claim is that the iran nian nuclear dl is not working out. they've met all of their obligations according to the iaea. 98% of the enriched uranium is gone. two-thirds of the centrifuges are gone. they've put concrete into the plutonium reactor. they've agreed to the toughest inspections of any country on this massive, massive debate we were having a year ago about the iranian nuclear deal. the obama administration has actually been vindicated.
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>> a year in. there's a lot more time. >> i hear you. >> got to be short. >> of course. the iranians have already taken additional american hostages after this whole thing has happened. >> they've been doing that for years and years anyway. >> we have a deal now, which you're saying is a fantastic deal, which you would think would thaw relations . on top of that, we're one year into a deal. it's preposterous to say it's worked as it's supposed to. this is something we're going to have to be looking at for a long time. i think it sets the long-term stage for a much stronger, much more dangerous iranian state, which has always been the objection. no one thought they were going to nuclear after year one, and they are still seizing hostages. >> that's it. >> thank you. >> really appreciate it. a tweet is making a lot of noise this morning. donald trump now admits he never saw video of iranians taking millions of dollars off a plane as he claimed more than once.
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welcome back. donald trump walking back a claim he repeatedly made on the qualm pain trail this week. he said, and you heard it multiple times, that he saw a video of iranian officials unloading cash a you haveoff a exchange for u.s. prisoners. just this morning, trump tweeting this. the plane i saw on television was the hostage plain in geneva, dwi switzerland, not the plane carrying 400 million in cash. is this a significant shift? good morning, all. kaleigh, i have to begin with you. is this the first time without saying wrong, he's saying he was wrong? >> twice before he said he shouldn't have done the heidi cruz retweet. he said if john mccain misunderstood his comments about
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his service, then he would take it back. those were not statement of facts. >> and this is statement of fact. a video that did not exist, but he said it existed in maine yesterday hours after his own campaign came out and said, no, he's referring to b-roll video of the hostages getting off the plane in geneva. what do you think happened overnight that caused this tweet this morning? >> i think he realized he made a mistake, and it became very clear to him. his campaign came to him, and he put it out this morning. i'm still waiting on hillary clinton to point out it was a mistake that the fbi director confirmed her statements when he did not. >> we are going to talk about that in just a minute. anna, i want to take a walk down memory lane. way, way back to yesterday when donald trump was explaining in great detail a video of this cash exchange that he saw. let's watch. >> you saw that with the airplane coming in.
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nice plane. the airplane coming in and the money coming off, i guess, right. that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us, because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. >> all right. there was no tape of the cash exchange, and the video was not given to us. but donald trump is admitting that today after describing at length yesterday. will this tweet today, is this the type of thing that will help some of his numbers? particularly honest and trustworthiness, which we always talk about are not good for hillary clinton. donald trump's numbers, especially in this latest fox news poll, they're really just as bad on that issue of honest and trustworthiness. is that going to correct it, anna? >> look, i think it's a tweet short and a day too late. look, the fact that he makes stuff up is nothing new. the only breaking news here is he's actually admitting he made
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stuff up. that's the only newsworthiness to it. we've seen him do this with the video of the thousands of muslims dancing in the streets of new jersey. he's been doing this all along. all along he doubles down. he never admits that he made it up, that he made a mistake, that he might have been -- you know, you can see. can't you understand how any normal human being could confuse a person for a wad of cash being taken off a plane? certainly you can see the normalcy in that, right? look, i just think it's too late. i think what you saw this week is that republicans are in distress, a in angst because they're seeing his numbers plummet, and they're realizing that there is going to be no pivot. that donald trump is going to continue being the donald trump we've seen consistently for the last 15 months, for which i give him credit, by the way because it's a lot better than waking up january 21st and realizing
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you've elected this man who's totally different as president. >> so this gets to the temperament issue, right. let's pull up the polling. new polling out from last night from fox showing the temperament issue when you look at clinton and when you look at trump. they say that trump only 37% say he has the temperament to be president. bill, how significant is it that trump has come out and done this, this morning? it appears like he's finally listening to his advisers, who i assume last night got in a room with him and said there is no video, you have to walk this back. in the context of these national poll, one of which shows a 15-point gap in which clinton leads. he's listening to them. >> you know, i must say, i laughed out loud this morning when i heard this question asked, is this significant change? think of wha we're talking about. we're talking about that donald trump has admitted he lied about a video that never existed. and the fact that a year after
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his campaign began, this is the first time that donald trump has ever admitted that one of his cascade of wild statements was wrong hardly signifies this guy has had a heart change operation or brain operation or that he's changed at all. i think he just realized this one maybe went too far. what i found interesting is that this is a disastrous week that he has had, right, of many, many mistakes, many bonker movements, if you will. this is the only one that he's tried to correct at all. you know, still leaving out there all the stuff about throwing the kid out of the rally, about the fire marshals, about paul ryan and john mccain. there's no cleanup man who can clean up enough of this mess. every time that i find now we're talking about this campaign, i find like i am this morning. i love you both, but it's me with two republicans. one who is for trump and the other one who is critical of
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trump. he can't even unite his own party. >> so generally speaking, the republican party is united or has been in the past against hillary clinton. she's trying to gather republicans right now. they're making a big effort, including in ads and leaks to newspapers this morning, trying to make it seem like it's a giant republican ground swell for her. the clinton campaign, hillary clinton herself, continues to use language to describe the e-mails and what the fbi director said about those e-mails that is drawing a lot of criticism right now. if we can throw up the language she used in an affiliate interview on the screen. she said this in an interview just this week. as the fbi said, everything that i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful with what i've told them. again, i just want to the play for you what the fbi said, what the fbi director james comey said in testimony. he did absolutely say she was truthful to the fbi, but he said only that and he also said this. listen. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on
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her e-mails, sent or received. is that true? >> that's not true. >> she said there is no no classified material. was that true? >> there was classified material e-mailed. >> even after "the washington post" gave her four pinocchios for suggesting that fbi james comey said what she told the american people is true, she says it again. >> first of all, setting up the whole e-mail server was a big mistake on her part in the first place. the way she's handled it and the campaign has handled it has been very amateurish and unprofessional and sometimes not always true. but again, you've got a donald trump who is incapable of taking advantage of an issue like that. even the iran nuclear deal. look at the economy, the last statement on the economy. those are the things he ought to be talking about. instead, he goes after the gold-star family and we talk about that for a week. >> so people are going after donald trump for doubling down on a video that wasn't there,
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fairly so. but hillary clinton is also doubling down on statements that she knows are, at best, as "the washington post" called it, cherry picking. at some point, the question becomes, is that insulting to the intelligence of the american people? >> what i'm saying is it's a legitimate issue, but the republicans have nominated a candidate -- >> why is it different? >> that's my point. because you have a candidate and a campaign that are incapable of taking advantage of the opportunities they have and the weaknesses in hillary clinton. it's all about donald trump and the outrageous statements that he makes day after day after day. >> you agree with bill. >> yes, and i think this tweet this morning, as you point out, is really kind of a first. i hope it continues because i think newt gingrich really might have gotten through to him. when you have your staunchest ally coming out and saying that he wants a reset, things need to change if he wants to win the election, i think that might have been a wake-up moment. i hope so. this election is primed for donald trump to take the white house on the economy, on foreign
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policy, but sticking to the issues is key. >> hoping one tweet can change the world. thanks so much. >> anything can happen on a friday morning. thank you all very much. in the span of three minutes, they held their breath as their flight skidded down the runway in dubai. they ran for safety moments before their plane burst into flames. you will hear from two americans on board. they share their story and the video they shot during the chaos next. ed the rec room this summer. his stellar notebooks will last through june. get back to great. this week, these items just one cent each. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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crash. huge fire, chaotic evacuation of the emirates airlines flight at dubai international airport. these passengers only had minutes to rush off the plane before there was a big explosion. miraculously, all 282 passengers and 18 crew members survived a near disaster. a firefighter who did rush to the scene was killed. two siblings were on the plane along with their mother and father. they join us now. thanks so much for being with us. i really appreciate it. when did you know something was wrong? >> well, after i saw smoke, i just took my phone and started recording. when we landed, it was really rough. i knew there was something wrong. after i saw the smoke coming out, everyone rushed. they took their baggage and stuff. everyone was praying. we didn't see the fire outside of the engine yet. when we slid down the inflatables, it was really bad. that's when we saw the fire.
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>> did you see the smoke before the pilot or someone got on and say, hey, something is going on here? how did they inform you there was an issue? >> so first, it was just a normal flight. the passengers were not given any special instruction. you know, sometimes there are unusual instructions that are given to the passengers while landing. this time there were no special instructions given. it was just a normal landing. however, when the plane first tried to land, it was very hard and a rough landing. the plane actually tried to land a second time, and then, you know, there was a very big noise. the plane actually came to a stop within a couple of seconds. me and my family were sitting in the rear row of the seats. when we looked out the window, we saw the smoke.
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we didn't know really what happened outside the aircraft, so we actually saw the smoke coming from the front seats. eventually from the left and right side of the cabins. >> what was going through your head as this was happening? >> it was a scary moment, but i had to be brave and courageous for me and my family. so i thought, you know, that was it when i saw the smoke. you know, the cabin crew gave us instruction. >> what did they say? >> in the first attempt of the landing, the cabin crew told us, you know, stay calm, stay in your seats, don't get up or anything. however, when the plane landed the second time, the smoke started coming in and everybody panicked. then the cabin crew told us, you know, get out of your seats, exit right away. so we tried to, as you can see in the video, tried to gather my belongings, but there was a huge rush behind me, so i had to leave my baggage behind on the
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seats and just jump for my life. >> leaving your bags in the seats is what they tell you you're supposed to do. you're supposed to leave your stuff and get the heck off. riya, what was the most harrowing moment for you? was it the lack of knowledge or the chaos when people started to get off? >> the chaos. there was a lot of pushing and stuff. everyone was trying to get their baggage. they just wanted to get out of the plane. they didn't know there was a fire. i feel like if some people knew there was a fire, they would just leave their baggage and run off. >> so we've seen this video from outside, the huge fireball. i guess it was the wing or something exploding. where were you when that happened? >> we were actually in a car watching the whole thing. it exploded after like two minutes from when we got out of the plane. >> you saw the explosion? what did you think when you saw it? >> it was crazy. if we were there for a little more time, we would have been --
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if we were in the plane, it would have exploded. >> you saw the explosion also? >> yes, i was outside. me and my dad saw it right in front of our eyes. just a huge explosion in the middle of the plane. the metal and the fire just going up in the sky and falling on the ground. a very terrifying moment. >> because you knew had it been five minutes earlier -- >> it was just a matter of seconds, to be honest. it was a very close call. >> you going to fly any time again soon? >> not any time soon. >> take a break. ride a bike, drive a car, take a train for a while. how about you, riya? >> i'm okay with it. >> you've already had the worst experience you can have hopefully. thank you so much for being with us. glad you made it out okay. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> poppy? >> wow. all right. well, the wait is almost over. in hours, the opening ceremony of the summer olympics kicks off. some of the biggest stars are
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rio olympics just hours away, tonight, athletes from 206 nations will compete in dozens of sports, five of those athletes are some pretty amazing women. the women's gymnastics team for usa looking to defend america's title as the all around champions. joining us now, 2008, gold and silver medalist, shawn johnson. i am -- i'm like star struck talking to you, my friend. i used to be a gymnast back in the day. nowhere near your level, but idolized you and everything you've done. first of all, it musti be amazig to be there. take us to the niend of tmind o women's team what are they going through right now? >> the expectation is so high. i feel like every single person in the world is expecting
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nothing but every gold to be taken by the usa team. i mean, i would have to agree with them. i feel like we have probably the strongest team our country has ever seen. >> wow. >> i think the ability and capabilities of these girls is, you know, untouchable. if they have a good night, not even a great night, we should walk away with most of the gold medals. >> wow. so we know of the magnificent seven and the fierce five. if you had to give a name to this women's gymnastics team, what would it be? >> i have no idea. gold five. i don't know. >> the gold five. >> that's a bad name. it needs to be better. >> we'll let you keep thinking. simone biles getting a ton of attention for the accomplishments she has already made on the world stage in gymnastics, but as you look at her, she is favored to win
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multiple gold medals this year. there was this cute moment at the p&g championship where she sent a wink your way. we can pull it up. tell us about her incredible story and what has made her so successful. >> simone biles is just pure talent. i feel like when you look at gymnastics as a sport, we always have these girls that are incredibly talented, but it comes from work than just pure talent. we've never seen a girl throw her difficult, her execution, her grace, and i think the thing that, like, makes her and separates her from everyone else, she just loves it. she is just a little kid out there playing around and you can tell, it is easy for her, which is kind of comical. because she throws the hardest skills in the sport, even comparing to men. so it's impressive, and if she just goes out and has fun, she should do the same thing here.
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>> at such a young age now, 24 i think, correct me if i'm wrong, you're gold medalist, silver, now a correspondent covering this. you've got a best selling book. you won "dancing with the stars." as you look back at your time getting the gold, what is the advice you would give these girls? a lot of people say i wish i would have enjoyed the ride more. >> i tend to say the same thing, but when i look back, had i enjoyed it more, i would have been more distracted and not as focused and probably not as successful. for these girls being so young, you know, like every gymnast is, i feel like just stay focused, enjoy it, have fun, but do what you do best. just you know, be your 16-year-old self-. so i think all the fun stuff and all the excitement comes after. >> this team has 2012 gold medalist, alley riseman and
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gabby douglas. >> they have experience, coaching them through, and guiding them through all of the kind of chaos and telling them, you know what, to do and what night to do. >> all right, so i do want to ask you this as well, since we have your perspective on this morning. there is a report out this week in the indianapolis star saying that usa gymnastic, the entity basically did not do enough to follow-up on allegations of sexual abuse by coaches. and i want to read you the statement from usa gymnastics in full here. responding to this indiana star report. they wrote, usa gymnastics in the strongest terms encouraged anyone who believes they have incurred abuse and work with law enforcement, they provided the indianapolis star with substantial information on its policies and procedures to demonstrate the organization's commitment for the safety of
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athletes within the scope of the jurisdiction and govern and structure. we feel the star left out significant facts that would have painted a more accurate picture of our efforts. as a veteran of the sport, reading this report this week, shawn, did it concern you? what are your thoughts? >> i mean, personally, i have no experience. i don't know enough in this area to be able to speak on it. i know it is hearbreaking for it to come out and all of the allegations around it. i know usag is doing the best, you know, they can, and right now, it is trying to focus on the athletes. i truly have no experience or knowledge of any of it. >> so it sounds like you were very surprised to read this report. even given your lengthy experience with usa gymnastics, but the report came as a shock to you? >> it came as an incredible shock. i mean, i had nothing but great experiences in my career, and i
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feel like i have so many teammates and friends who would say the same. so it is unfortunate, but again, no personal experience. >> let's talk about tonight. you get to be there as a spectator. way less pressure. you get to enjoy it, and you're reporting on it. what are you looking forward to most tonight as the opening ceremony gets underway? >> it is so much less pressure. i have to admit. it is a lot more fun this time around, not feeling like i have to fall off the beam or have expectations on me. but i think the opening ceremonies, watching the athletes march in together and have the sense of pride on their face and the smiles. it's just, i don't know, it's like deja vu, it brings me back to 2008. >> we'll be watching and cheering all of you guys on, the entire team, inspiring a lot of little girls and boys around this country. that's for sure. shawn johnson, thank you so
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much. >> thank you. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> trump is not qualified to be president. >> we're running against a rigged system. >> of course, the elections will not be rigged. what does that mean? >> i came to united states to new york in 1996. >> questions about melania's immigration history. >> what is going on. $400 million in cash being flown to iran. i wonder where the money really goes. >> we have a policy we don't pay ransom. >> that was given to us by the iranians. >> noticing that you've been softening up on mr. trump's policies and words. >> sometimes things don't always come out like you mean. >>announcer: this is "new day" with chris com cuomo and alisyn camerota. it is all 5th, mark that date and time. we just saw something we hardly ever see in this campaign. a self-correction from donald
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trump. not an apology, mind you, but let's call it a clarification. just a short time ago, he tweeted that he never actually saw a video of a plane delivering $400 million in cash to iran. >> so trump made those claims for two days in a row, he did in in florida and then in maine at his campaign rally. his campaign issued a correction, but trump doubled down after that. today, he is walking it all back. jim sciutto is live in washington with all the details. good morning, jim. >> yeah, poppy, you know, you look at the words here, i'm not so much it is as a correction as revisionism. let's look at the tweet. i saw the hostage plane in switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash going to iran! listen to his comments that have been repeated over the last several days about what he saw, what he says he saw in that video originally. let's have a listen.
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>> the tape was made, right. you saw that with the airplane coming in. nice plane. the airplane coming in, and the money coming off, i guess, right. that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us. because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. >> so two stark differences there. his comments there on tape, compared to the tweet. one, he says there was cash coming off the plane, not just the hostages, as he said in the tweet. and also, that iran somehow shared this secret video with u.s. as opposed to what he now says, and what his campaign said yesterday, it was just plain old b roll as we call it video that aired on television, and there is that picture of the plane right there, and those are some of the american hostages, prisoner whose wes who were relm iran. you can say getting caught up in
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a small issue, or whether there was a connection between this repayment of iranian funds, this was iranian money going back to the '70s, at the same time the americans were released do. it amount to a quid pro quo, at least in spirit. that's the larger question here. >> all right, jim sciutto, stick around. president obama, unloading again on donald trump. the president dismissed trump's claim that the november election will be rigged. he called it flat out ridiculous. cnn phil mattingly joins us with the details. >> if anybody had any questions going into this week, what president obama thought about donald trump, well, the president has gone a long way and put a lot of effort into answering those questions, doing exactly that yesterday in a news conference where he criticized, critiqued, warned and even mocked the republican nominee. >> of course the elections will not be rigged. what does that mean? >> president obama, out right
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ridiculing donald trump's warning to supporters that the presidential election could be rigged. >> if mr. trump is suggesting that there is a conspiracy theory that is being propagated across the country, that's ridiculous. it doesn't make any sense. i've never heard of anyone complain about being cheated before the game was over. if mr. trump is up 10 or 15 points on election day and ends up losing, then you know, maybe he can raise some questions. that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. >> trump, firing back on twitter, saying president obama should ask the dnc about how they rigged the election against bernie. but obama didn't stop there. the president, doubling down on his charges that trump is unfit to be commander in chief. questioning whether he can be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how
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confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear triad. >> the president, conceding no matter what happens in november, he will help his replacement. >> if somebody wins the election and they are president, then my constitutional responsibility is to peacefully transfer power to that individual. >> on the campaign trail, trump insists it is hillary clinton, who lacks the judgment after her private e-mail controversy. >> hillary clinton, furthermore can never be trusted with national security. >> despite the nasty campaign rhetoric, president obama says trump should receive national security briefings afforded to nominees, but warned him to watch his words. >> if they want to be president, they got to start acting like president. and that means being able to receive these briefings and not spread them around. >> and really, when you talk to democrats familiar with how the president has been approaching
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the donald trump republican nominee issue, there is two things they really point to. one, the clear political motive what we saw yesterday, guys, and that was he wants to, much like the clinton campaign is doing, paint him as unfit for office, but also a personal motive, and that is that he looks at donald trump, according to his advisors is somebody who is dangerous and dangerous to the legacy he has put together over the last eight years. >> stay with us, phil. let's bring back jim sciutto as well. a lot to parse through this morning. revisionist history, the best way to describe it, phil, do you think that this is coming, this about face is coming because finally, he is listening to his team and seeing it in the numbers? he is seeing polls where he is as much as 15 points behind clinton, and for the first time, listening to them? remember, he didn't revis his response to the kahn family last week despite all of the drama that ensued, but now esz.
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>> i have to preface which don't have specific reporting that advisors told him to do this. but i do think there is a recognition over the course of the last three or four days inside trump's senior team. a senior team who is fairly united despite of the incoming fire they've been taking from the outside world that donald trump needed to make some changes, and those changes were primarily on just getting on to message. this isn't new. people have been telling donald trump to do that for the last 13 or 14 months. what they impressed upon me and a lot of people in the rallies you are going to see, donald trump will be mo are on message. he has been more on message and on this issue specifically, because he repeated it over and over again, an emphasis on look, let's stop doing stuff like this. simple mistakes that can be corrected. >> he might be listening this time? >> the numbers, the numbers are such a huge part of what his campaign has been all about. what has been amazing over the last three weeks is the rare window into donald trump being like i don't understand why i'm not winning. he has actually said stuff like that. in florida, i don't know why i'm
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not winning by more. this is his stump people he can no longer talk about, because the numbers aren't going into his direction. no question about it, the reality is setting in. >> just to be clear, you don't get a gold medal for admitting or revising what you're saying about a video that you made up that doesn't exist, jim. i mean, you've been talking to diplomatic and john kerry, they don't know lhow to respond to this, because he invented a scene that never happened. >> you don't want to overstate the trend. we're talking about a 24 hour turn around here and this is a campaign more than a year old. and keep in mind, it happens, i mean, you have mike moral, writing in the new york times, donald trump cannot be trusted with national security. this really remarkable line in this editorial saying that in the intelligence world, we would say that he has been recruited as an unwitting agent of the russian federation. i mean, so you have, you know,
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connecting to a larger position, not just about whether a video exists or not, but to the bigger picture or questions here, how do you handle russia, how do you handle iran negotiations. the question will be, is there a change not just on the factual issues, not making up a video any more, will there be a change, and this is something you hear from both parties, frankly, on the bigger national security and foreign policy and domestic policy issues. >> all right, jim sciutto, phil mattingly, thanks very much. >> he knows what he is talking about, the pivot. >> the pivot, we keep hearing it. >> the word we use too often. joining me now republican lawmaker, congressman, supporting donald trump for president. thank you for being here this morning. this may be the first time that donald trump has walked back change, revised, what have you, a statement of fact. are you happy to see it this morning? >> well, again, donald trump is a businessman. i was a businessman before i got
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into politics. it is tough when you get into p politics and you sometimes have to say some things or backtrack. i'm happy to see him doing that. he really needs to get back on track and on track is talking about what i hear everyday with my constituents about jobs and the economy and national security. that is the key to this race. that's what he has to continue to talk about. >> how far off track do you believe he has gotten? >> well, i don't believe he has gotten off track that far. look, the media keeps picking on individual items he says and he does, and then they talk about those, and -- >> i mean with all due respect, congressman, he said a video existed twice in two days that never existed, even after his camp said it didn't exist. >> i understand, but -- >> that's not cherry picking by the media, is it. >> hillary clinton also said she didn't lie, and then we -- >> we've covered it extensively. >> i know, so that's what i'm saying. these are the issues. i wish we could start talking
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from both sides, what the candidates are saying. we heard hillary clinton say the other day, she is going to talk about infrastructure. i want to hear how she'll pay for it. i am a business guy. i've seen the numbers in washington. we can keep talking, but let's talk about how we're going to pay for it. let's talk about how we're going to get the country back on track. >> so your candidate, donald trump, has at this point not agreed to endorse house speaker paul ryan in his own race. and john berman, my colleague pointed out a fascinating mailer that went out. let's pull it up, from paul ryan. if we fail to protect our majority in congress, down ballot elections, if we fail to protect our down ballot, we could be handing president hillary clinton a blank check. paul ryan talking about whether his endorsement of trump will stick forever. if it is a blank check. let's roll that. >> none of these things are ever
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a blank check. in any kind of race. but right now, i just think it is important that the voters, you know, he won the delegates, he won the thing fair and square. it is just that simple. >> how do you read that from paul ryan in the statement saying we would be handing president hillary clinton a blank check and saying basically he doesn't -- trump doesn't always have my endorsement, if things change? >> well, first off, what i believe paul ryan is doing is acting as speaker, saying he wants to continue to keep the majority in the house of representatives, and not hand hillary clinton a blank check or anyone a blank check. that's one issue. i'm preside i i'm appreciative he is doing that. paul ryan has endorsed donald trump and i believe he'll continue to for donald trump. he'll do that because he is looking at what hillary clinton is saying and he realizes that's not the direction that 70% of americans are saying they don't want to continue to go down that road, and i know paul ryan
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believes that. >> you don't see that as a swipe to donald trump after trump not saying he would endorse ryan? sending out a mailer that says we would be handing a president hillary clinton a blank check. >> i know paul ryan. i know he wants to change america in the right direction. i know he knows that 70% of america does not like the direction we're going. you're talking about a campaign p flyers and fund-raiser flyers. again, i really like to get back to those issues all the time. if it is an issue about the direction our country wants to go, paul ryan knows the direction we need to go. he nodknows 70% of america is n happy with the direction we're heading. >> one thing donald trump has been very vocal on this week, outside of any issue, is rigged. he said the election, very well may be rigged. obama responded to that yesterday in the press conference, saying i'm not sure
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how you can say that this far out. what did you make of that when donald trump say it may be rigged and what do you think he meant. >> i'm not sure why a sitting president continues to get into an election. i think he should continue to be president and do what he is doing and not worry about this election, when donald trump says those things. he is concerned that the electorate voice isn't being heard and i think that's what he is trying to get at. >> do you think he is actually saying that the voting process will be unjust? >> well, i think what he is looking a is the democratic voting process, he is looking how hillary clinton took the election because of these delegates, super delegates, and it was rigged. >> even bernie sanders says that's not the case. >> well, i gotta tell you, i've had democrats in congress that said we should have a system with super delegates, because that's how they make sure they get their individuals elected. again, it is interesting how we twist, we keep going down this road, but the answer is, it is the electorate.
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we have to worry about the people, worry about their issues and their concerns. making sure their voice is heard. that's why they're so frustrated. that's why bernie sanders got so many votes. that's why donald trump has received so many votes. people are frustrated with the system, and the establishment. >> all right, congressman, appreciate your time this morning. jim renacci, thank you. >> thank you very much. a cash transfer that did exist, a video of it that does not. controversy over $400 million given to iran, the same day hostages were released. fareed zakaria weighs in next. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections and cancer. some serious infections require hospitalization. before treatment, get tested for tuberculosis. before starting stelara® tell your doctor if you think you have an infection or have symptoms such as:
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back at critics who suggest i $400 million payment to iran amounted to ransom in return for the release of four american prisoners. the payment to iran is reignited criticism. nuclear deal and everything that went on. here to discuss, fareed zakaria. the $400 million went to iran, leave that aside, but the idea is, you know, if money should be given in return for hostages, that's an important decision. >> yeah, this is substance. and it is important that people understand the facts. first of all, this is iran's money. this is money that the iranians had paid to the united states to buy military equipment, and then once the shah's regime was
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stopped, we decided we weren't going to sell the new regime anything, so the money was left in the united states, and in branches of american banks around the world. the second thing to understand is there were three separate negotiations set up by the obama administration. one was about the nuclear deal. one was about the prisoners, remember, they also wanted some back from the united states, and the third was what to do about this money that had been left in the united states. the obama administration claims the three negotiations were not inter linked. of course, they were inter linked. of course the iran anies weians going to make concessions, nor would we, if they agreed to destroy 98% of our rauranium, i obviously a relationship between the hostages being released or prisoners being released and
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them getting the money, but it was parts of a complicated negotiation with many points. our principle objective was to get them to sign off on the nuclear deal. their principle objective was to get the sanctions lifted. there were other moving parts here. the final point, people keep saying we've never done this before. nonsense. the original hostages were released when we similarly sent $3 billion back to the iranians. so you know, i think that this is an important substantive issue, what should you do going forward. but on the whole, it strikes me, it was part of a complex deal in which there were quid pro quos, this was one of them. >> comparisons to eiran-contra, jeffrey lord said had is worst. do you think those are justified and at the heart of all of this, isn't it about the safety of americans to which have been taken since this deal was made a
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year ago? >> no, it is completely different from iran-contra, because first of all, that was something happening in a totally under handed way, lying to congress about it. in this case, we knew this happened. the obama administration explicitly -- >> we didn't know about the unmarked plane. >> right. and the reason we did that was on that issue, obama is exactly right. the reason we did it in cash was -- >> right. >> we have sanctions in place and want do wire transfers. that would be a violation of american law. the second thing to point out, again, the hostage issue, you know, as john was saying, this is a serious issue. look, the united states has a pretty good reputation on this. the european countries constantly negotiate and pay ransom for hostages in north africa and mali, places like that. when we do it, it is more of this complicated conversation where you can't -- you can't quite make the case that we did a cash for lives deal. americans are taken hostage, you know, many fewer times than
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hostages from european countries. there is almost a business in north africa of taking europeans hostage. >> so you're willing to say there was a quid pro quo as parts of this cash and the hostages. there was not, however, a video of the quid pro quo. there was not a video of cash being delivered to iran, despite the fact that for two days, donald trump said that there was. this morning, he put out a tweet sort of revising it saying no, i was talking about a video of something else, it was in switzerland, not the plane going to iran. you've been talking a little bit about donald trump, using colorful language, fareed, and that gets to this issue. >> it isn't just get to that issue. if i can, i notice you have it here. let me read the first line of the "washington post" column. >> your headline. >> a few days ago, i was asked on cnn to make sense of one more case in which donald trump had said something false and then
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explained it away with a caustic tweet. he has done it again. the thing that should -- that surprises me is that we are still surprised. this is what he does with everything. every claim he has made in his life in some concotion, and he is surprised when people call him on it. the birther, complete nonsense. his book, he keeps talking about the art of the deal, being the biggest business seller. it is not that. it is not even close. yet, for him, this is just part of the, you know, this is why i call it, and i'm not going to offend people's ear this is morning, it is bs. he is a bs artist. he has done this his whole life. i suppose it is okay if you're selling condos or your name brand on ties, but when you're doing it, running for the president of the united states, he is creating new rules, and
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how many times can we do fact checking on this guy. because it is every -- everyday, he does one of these things. i think it is pathological. because it is so self-defeating. rather than having the substantive discussion, john, that you wanted to have about it, here we are talking about one -- >> video. >> one more made-up thing that donald trump has said. >> fareed, great to have you with us. >> column is fascinating this morning. it is getting a lot of buzz already, the unbearable stench of trump's bs, "washington post." thank you. now to questions swirling around donald trump's wife, melania trump, and her immigration status. are there inconsistencies in the timeline of when she came to the united states and when she started working here. was she working here legally. she is fighting back on twittermetwitter. we'll tell you what she has to say, next. get back to great. this week, these items just one cent each.
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from some about her timeline, this after racy photos were published from the 1990s. jessica snyder has details. >> the photos that raised a few eyebrows are raising questions about melania's immigration history. >> i came to united states, to new york, in 1996. >> but these photos were snapped in new york city in 1995. according to the author of her recent biography. so what difference does a year make. possibly the difference between mrs. trump breaking immigration law or not. >> i came here on visa. i flew to slovenia. i obeyed the law and did it the right way. >> she said she got her visa stamped every few month. she possibly had a tourist visa, that needs to be updated
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periodically. but that type of visa does not allow working in the united states. the type of visa that does allow work is called h1b. man who discovered her said he didn't sponsor her for one until 1996, a year after this racy photo shoot. but there is a caveat. the photographer behind the camera at the shoot, yar, says melania was a young model waiting for a big break, so she didn't get paid, which mean she didn't violate any immigration laws. >> you are making this kind of magazine, you have exposure, and this exposure was bringing you to the next level to catalog, campaign and everything. >> so melania was not paid for the photo shoot. >> no, nobody is paying. no was paid. >> if that non-paid photo shoot was the only work she did before getting an h1b visa, she wouldn't have broken any laws. she isn't directly answering whether she was first in new york in 1995, instead of 1996,
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like she previously stated. but could it an an honest her or. she wrote there on twitter. let me set the record straight. i have been in full comply anlsz with the immigration laws of this country. period. any allegation to the contrary is simply untrue. jessica snyder, cnn new york. >> all right, here to discuss, journalist and author of the book, melania trump, the inside story, joining us from her home country, slovenia. thank you for being with us. let me start with you. there seem to be two key issues here, right. the timeline of melania's arrival and work in the united states, and there is the issue of what she was paid for here. if you can explain. >> well, after our research, we conclude that melania trump travels to united states in the 1995. this was the agent that we spoke
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last nont about melania, and i think that's true. >> in the photos -- >> but she didn't -- she didn't stay this time. >> the issue is -- >> she traveled with visa back and forth. >> the issue is the photos that a lot of people are seeing, we think they were taken in 1995, modeling photos, people model for money, sometimes they get don't get paid. was there any evidence she was paid in the united states in 1995? >> no, no material evidence. but you can believe that i am speaking the truth. it is not serious that someone is traveling from the slovenia. maybe she made without paying, but she was doing som somatizi
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advertising. of course she was paid for something when she was not united states. >> let me read the statement on this, because it is pretty carefully worded. >> there has been inaccurate reporting concerning my immigration status back in 1996. let me set the record straight. i have at all times been in compliance with the immigration laws, period. any allegation to the contrary is simply untrue. case closed for you? >> look -- >> i'm asking julian. >> no, but -- >> julia, go ahead. >> you must know that melania did not -- this is the truth. >> okay. >> she did everything from our book or from the other interviews, and so it is not possible. nothing special. >> stand by for a stand. i want to let july yie jump in
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here. >> it leaves questions unanswered. she insisted again in the statement about 1996 without mentioning 1995. what does it mean about 1995. was she being compensated. the modeling agent who says he brought her to the u.s. in 1996, he told the ap yesterday that he sponsored her for an h1b visa. well, if just a year prior, she was doing a free photo shoot because she didn't have enough exposure, because she wasn't well-known enough, how do those two things match up. and, if she was working here for money, or if she didn't, then, or if she didn't qualify for a visa, it is very -- even in the mid '90, it was very difficult to get an h1b visa. you have to apply, get selected for a lottery, get the visa from
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the lottery. lots of companies applying from silicon valley, et cetera. it is very hard to get an h1b visa, and if do you have one, which they say she did have, then why are you traveling back to slovenia every few month and h1 b doesn't require that. you can have it for three years, renew it for another three, six years. you don't have to travel back every couple of months to get -- or every few months to get your vi visa stamped. you do have to do that with a visitor or tourist visa and you can't be getting paid. her statement doesn't clarify anything. >> so julie, immigration law, you know, is incredibly co complicated on the best of days. if she was fade for modeling work in 1995, what does that do to the stories that she has been telling, the answers she has been giving on the issues about
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her coming to america on immigration, which have been pretty extensively researched by you and others? >> well, it is problematic, because it kind of sets off a -- it taints all this stuff down the line, even if down the line, she did everything by the book. because if at some point, you committed fraud, you lied to a border agent, or you lied to somebody giving you a visa, because even implicitly, if you're getting a touri visa, bu you know you're coming to work, that's visa fraud and can actually trigger -- i mean, it is unlikely, but could trigger denaturalization proceedings. so she could be stripped of her citizenship and deported. and again, this would not be an issue, if her husband weren't running an entire campaign based not only on undocumented immigrants or illegal immigration, but also, on the abuse of the h1b visa tore bringing cheap labor to the
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states to undermine in his world, to undermine american workers. so he is running on a campaign -- he is running a campaign against the very type of visa that brought her -- alleged brought his wife to the states. >> double standard here. >> julie, boyd, thank you so much for being with us. breaking news, the july jobs report released moments ago. what does it say about the state of our economy, and how could this all affect the 2016 race. it is political, folks. christine romans is with us, next. ooph, that milk in your cereal was messing with you, wasn't it? try lactaid, it's real milk, without that annoying lactose. good, right? mmm, yeah. lactaid. the milk that doesn't mess with you. welli do say that, you see... "well, fantastic!" a lot. i study psychobiology. i'm a fine arts major. nobody really believes that i take notes this way, but they actually make sense to me. i try to balance my studying with the typical college experience.
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all right, breaking news, the labor department just announced new jobs numbers. the second straight month of strong gains, all eyes on the state of the economy, with just 95 days to go until election days. star of early star, christine romans, has the numbers. >> the numbers are good, you guys. second month as you said of strong jobs growth. look at july and june. 292, revised up in june. 250,000 net new jobs. when i look through these numbers, i see the government reporting strong jobs growth in computer systems design,
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architectural and engineering system, management, technical consulting, hospitals and health care jobs, and again, when you look at restaurants and the leisure, hospitality, i'll point out, the jobs i first started mentioning pay more. when we look at the unemployment rate, right here at the same level it has been for a long time, 4.8% is what we're looking at, 4.9%. we thought it might move down, but 4.8%. not so good that it would cause the fed to raise interest rates. i'm call it a goldie locks jobs this summer, you're not having jobs growth in energy, and you're seeing wages rise. the fed would like to see 3.5%, but that's a little better. the wages continuing to rise in an economic recovery, guys. >> this will have interesting --
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>> yes, it will. >> christine, thank you so much. let's move to sports as a saving grace. davey duke struggled alcoholism and homelessness, but joining a soccer team helped him get his life back. >> now to an organization he founded called street soccer scotland, giving thousands of people struggling a chance of their goals, both on and off the field. we want you to meet davy duke, our latest cnn hero. >> when you're homeless, you loss more than just the roof over your head, your self-esteem. it gives you a chance where you belong, i got my life back. >> all right, to see how he uses soccer to give thousands of people their lives back, you can go to cnnheros.com.
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i've been looking forward to this interview all morning, with the very special 11-year-old who you'll hear from in just a moment. donald trump's running mate, governor mike pence, took some tough questions on the campaign trail this week. but yesterday, pence fielded one of the toughest questions he has faced yet from an 11-year-old. >> i've been noticing you've been softening up on mr. trump's policies and words. is this your role, is this going to be your role in the administration? >> i couldn't be more proud to stand with donald trump, and we are shoulder to shoulder in this campaign, my friend. sometimes things don't always
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come out like you mean, right. and donald trump and i are absolutely determined to work together. >> joining us now, matthew shricker and his mother mary. thank you for being with us. >> good morning poppy. >> good morning, my friend. you told me you don't smile very much during the break, so we're going to try to change that for our viewers this morning. in all seriousness, matthew, what prompted you to ask that question? why is that the question that came to mind? >> well, i mean, i wasn't trying to be hostile in trying to accuse him of anything. i was just -- i'm full on with the trump campaign. i think that i just wanted to see if he was -- if he was just -- if mr. trump was approving of it, and i think that has been -- i think that's what he is doing and it he balances the ticket out a little bit, and i think that's very good for the trump campaign. >> so matthew, if you were, and
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you probably will be in the room with donald trump at some point, i think, maybe at one of these rallies coming up, what would you ask him? >> i would ask him what role will his children have in the trump foundation? that would be very interesting, because his children are very intricate and very wonderful. they are totally masterminds. >> masterminds. mary, for you, as his mother, watching him ask this question, what went through your mind? i think he caused mike pence to pause there for a moment. >> well, he put it out on scrap paper just minutes prior, and i looked at it and i said it's okay. honestly i wasn't certain the reception it would get. i had a feeling it could be potentially perceived as a defensive question. but governor pence took it all in stride, and i thought he gave
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an excellent answer. and i'm very proud of him, as we are all of all three children. >> a lot has been made in this campaign of the language that is used, the name-calling that's been used, especially in the primary. as an 11-year-old watching it, what is your reaction? >> i really think that listening to a few bad words coming out of donald trump is a lot better than people getting blown up by terrorists, people getting burned alive, people getting their heads chopped off and people getting drowned. >> mary, to you as a mother, sitting in your seat, i know you have two other children, two young girls as well, this r rhetor rhetoric, does it bother you? >> well, certainly as a mother, you don't like to hear some of these comments that are so somewhat bombastic and inflammatory. however, i think the tenor of the world right now allows for
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those kind of feelings to be aired. honestly, when it comes to confronting a terrorist, i would rather have trump confronting him -- >> hillary clinton. >> his opponent. >> so looking at you, you look like a future politician, if i can even say that, only because of your awesome tie and your button, my friend. but really, do you have an interest in politics as a future career? >> i've always had an interest in politics. i'm not really sure, because looking at all the insulting flying around in politics, i might -- i don't know. i think might. it is a slim possibility. i'm going to go into be a lawyer first, and then see if that could be my future. >> the first thing you would do when you sat down in the oval office, matthew? >> i don't know if i would be into the oval office, but i would -- right now or in the future. >> in the future. >> i don't know what the issues will be in the future.
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>> very political answer. from a very savvy 11-year-old. thank you so much, matthew and mary. have a great weekend, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> you too. >> nice to see you both. j.b. >> already dodging questions. a politician already. up next, he put his life on the line to stop an arsonist, we're going to introduce you to the officer who went beyond the call of duty, next. nic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena (vonutritional needs... dog's all in one. purina one. healthy energy, and a taste he loves. purina one smartblend is expertly blended... with always real meat #1. all in one. purina one. perfect. no tickets, no accidents... that is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record.
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of miami, he is a hero. officer mario gutierrez went beyond the call of duty when he stopped a man from setting a gas station on fire. cnn ed lavender has the story. zrchl >> on on october night in miami, this man tried to start a fire at this gas station next to miami's international airport. surveillance video shows the smoke smoldering, as he starts dousing the ground. >> it scared me, because i thought, wow, we're going to die. >> that is miami-dade county police officer, mario gutierrez, who happened to be patrolling the area, racing in, jumps out of his car, hits the memergency shut off, and finds himself over a simmering time bomb, unsure if the gas tanks would explode. >> it would have been a massive chaos. they would have thought it was
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terrorism. they wouldn't have been able to talk to me, because i would have been vaporized. gene starts wildly trying to stab him with a knife and screwdriver. >> i blocked it. >> gutierrez falls to the ground, gene visually swings at him more than 20 times. >> a fight to the death. only person person was going to walk away. >> gutierrez was stabbed about a dozen times, but able to briefly get him off, firing five times, killing him on the spot. >> i never heard the gunshots. never heard them. all i heard was the clinking of the shell cases hitting the ground. >> it all lasted less than 30 seconds, but dealing with the emotions, hasn't always been easy. >> i felt like i failed. i was -- i need to know that i
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put up a fight. that i fought this guy. i didn't remember. i have no recollection of it. so that really bothered me. >> these days, officer gutierrez patrols the miami airport, alongside his hero. >> who are these guys we are going to see. >> juan leone. >> he found him bleeding on the ground that night. >> i knew he was in trouble. his brown shirt was completely covered. it was just red. >> he raced his friend to the hospital, just in time to save his life. >> he is my brother. he is my brother. >> it is the unbreakable bond of officers on the frontline. ed lavendera, cnn. >> what nice guys, too. >> it just makes you think, every time you pass an officer on the street, just say hi, thank you for what you do. they don't make a lot of money
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and put their life on the line everyday for us. >> miami lucky to have them. >> thank you so much. good to be with you, my friend. have a great weekend. time for "newsroom," with carol costello. >> thanks, guys. "newsroom" starts now. and good morning, i'm carol costello, thanks for joining me. donald trump shocks the political world, not such an unusual headline, right. but here is what is news worthy. first double down, backing off, he says he did not see that video of the u.s. delivering $400 million to iran in what trump has called a ransom payment to free americans. trump tweeting this morning, the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane in geneva, swirtser land, n-
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