kosik with all of the breaking details of the story. >> reporter: brianna, this is a system wide failure. thousands of the airline just released a statement confirming the problem, quoting this. delta experienced a computer outage that has impacted flights scheduled for this morning. flights awaiting departure are currently delayed. flights en route are operating normally, which means they're going to continue to finish out their routes. now, long delays are being reported all over social media in airports including london, tokyo, and los angeles. we're seeing a lot of activity online as well with lots of pictures of u.s.-bound delta passenger in rome posting this picture you see here while waiting in line for more than an hour early this morning. this tweet showing passengers getting ready to camp out as

they await for the issue to be resolved using the hashtag delta meltdown 2016. what is delta telling passengers? they're urging passengers to check their flight status before going to the airport. they're also reaching out to frustrated travelers on twitter, trying to assure passengers that they're working to get things back up and running. of course, keep watching "new day." we'll keep you posted throughout the morning. >> can't get the planes in the air, but the twitter account still working. all right. thank you. our other top story is the obvious one, the election. donald trump says today is the day that he makes policy his priority. does he have a real plan for making the economy better? he's going to answer that question in a big speech today in detroit. of course, he's still sticking to his main strategy, which is insult clinton. he's now suggesting that the democratic nominee is mentally unfit to be president. we have it all covered. let's begin with jason carroll live in detroit. that's where trump is going to

speak in just hours. jason? >> reporter: and you know, chris, that trump is very comfortable talking about the economy. he plans to do that later on today in his economic policy speech. he plans on hitting on a number of topics, reviving manufacturing jobs, also perhaps the idea of making childcare payments tax deductible. all this in an effort to reboot his campaign after a disastrous week. >> she is a totally unhinged person. she's unbalanced. all you have to do is watch her. >> reporter: donald trump stepping up his blistering attacks on hillary clinton, suggesting the former secretary of state is mentally unfit to be president. >> the people of this country don't want somebody that's going to short circuit up here. >> reporter: trump using clinton's own words against her. she continues to repeat a debunk claim that the fbi director said

she was truthful about her use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state. >> so i may have short circuited, and for that i, you know, will try to clarify. >> reporter: clinton's running mate, senator tim kaine, coming to her defense. >> she said over and over again, i made a mistake and i've learned from it and i'm going to fix it. we're going to be real transparent, absolutely. >> reporter: trump's ramped up rhetoric against clinton coming ahead of his speech on economic policy in detroit, where he's expected unveil his agenda for revitalizing the american economy. all this as the republican nominee is coming off one of the worst weeks of his campaign that saw trump repeatedly engaged in controversies instead of focusing on clinton and battling slumping poll numbers in a number of key battle ground states. >> he's going to win parts of ohio where people are really hurting, but i still think it's difficult if you are dividing to be able to win in ohio. i think it's really, really difficult. >> reporter: and this morning, a

new cnn poll shows hillary clinton with a ten percentage point lead nationally, leaving some in the party saying it's time for trump to pivot his campaign. >> he needs to change and particularly change the tone and tenor of the debate sufficient to win the election in november. >> reporter: and trump made an effort at party unity with those last-minute endorsements of house speaker paul ryan, senator john mccain, and senator kelly ayotte on friday. some were wondering, is it too little, too late? trump supporters say not the case. plenty of time to make up ground here. clinton, we should also mention, for her part will be in detroit delivering her economic policy speech. that will be on thursday. brianna? >> busy week for detroit. jason carroll, thank you. well, jeb bush has said he's firmly never trump, but his older son, george p. bush, is breaking with his dad and his family. in a meeting with texas gop

activists, he's now urging republicans to back donald trump in order to stop hillary clinton from winning. cnn's jessica schneider joining us with more. >> reporter: yeah, it's a major break in message for the bush family. george p. bush acknowledging that his push to get behind donald trump is a complete flip from his father jeb's stance. but nonetheless, when the 40-year-old land commissioner stood before the crowd, he stressed they must get behind the nominee. >> it's a bitter pill to swallow. but you get back up and help the man that won, and you make sure that we stop hillary clinton. >> and george p. bush there referring to team bush. his father jeb battled in a bruising primary with donald trump and is adamantly stated he will not be voting for trump in november. donald trump, of course, unleashed a barrage of bashes against jeb bush throughout the primary and beyond. most memorably, calling him a

low-energy stiff, also weak and ineffective. a pathetic figure desperate and sat, and finally a total embarrassment to his family. last month jeb bush predicted trump's campaign supporters would feel betrayed by empty promises. president george w. and george h.w. bush have also refrained from backing trump, making george p. bush the first to call for party unity. >> all right. thank you. let's discuss. let's bring in cnn political analyst and reporter for "the new york times," alex burns. cnn politics reporter, m.j. lee. and contributor at the daily caller, matt lewis. m.j., only in this election are the punch points on a graphic of your main case against someone all insults like we just saw with jeb bush. today is supposed to be a different day. policy. what are the expectations for donald trump when he gets up there? how much meat on the bones does

he have to put at this point in the race? >> look, he is calling this a major policy speech. he's going to talk about his jobs plan. and this is really important right now because, as you know, you've been on the road with clinton a lot. this has been her main message since coming out of the democratic national convention. she and tim kaine have really been hammering home this message that, you know, the two of them can do a lot more than donald trump and governor pence than, you know -- to create jobs and help the middle class. they've been touring factories. they've been going to places in countries where people really need the help. i think that donald trump really needs to sort of nail this one. i will say, a lot of talk about is he going to stay on message, is he going to read actually his, you know, prepared speech on the teleprompter and not sort of veer away. we've been here before. we have asked that question before. yes, he could have one day where he really does stay on message. but i do think that he always sort of proves that he isn't really capable of doing that for

a longer period of time. >> is he really capable of a pivot in this regard? is it just one day of making a speech and then really he kind of becomes his own worst enemy again? >> this is the man republicans nominated. they knew this when they chose him. it was a big part of his appeal in the primaries, that this is a guy who shoots from the hip and says what's on his mind. turns out what's sometimes on his mind is some observations about a gold-star family that turn out to be controversial or resentments about a federal judge he wants to air. republicans have tried before to get him to get on the prompter, get on the script, and stick to it over a sustained period of time. it works for a period of days. you see him maybe starting to get positive reinforcement, that he's a guy who likes to read good headlines about himself. man, donald trump really nailed that economic speech in detroit. maybe that'll extend the run a little bit. but you always know, and republicans really after last week have given up hope that the guy is not just going to veer off at some point pretty soon.

>> the guy's style, donald trump, is a problem. that's no secret to anybody who's watching the race. matt, the concern for you, though, as a member of the party is substance. and that could be his salvation with his style problems, that he's actually offering the what and how that will cater to your party's interests going forward. what do you need to hear today? >> well, look, i think that, you know, obviously donald trump's economic proposals are at odds with a lot of conservatives in terms of fiscal economic policy, but let's put that aside. i think their winning argument, donald trump can get to the populous side of hillary clinton. what you should say is that she's not truthful, that she's part of the status quo, and that she is in bed with big business, with the globalists. >> but that's not a policy plan. what do you want to hear as a policy plan? >> well, he's laying it out. he's going to have a moratorium on new regulations. he's going to attack trade deals

like tpp and nafta that hillary clinton supported or in some cases her husband was behind along with republicans as well. he's going to talk about things like killing the death tax. he's going to talk about making childcare tax deductible. these are real populous, public policy positions that i think will be popular with the american people if he can keep from messing it up and talking about gold-star families. >> but this is really the issue, the -- when you look at whether people trust donald trump or hillary clinton on the economy. this is the fight that we're seeing them have in pennsylvania, in ohio, and when you look at the polls, it's pretty interesting how tied up it is, according to this new abc/"washington post" poll on the economy. who do you trust to handle the economy? 48% say clinton. 46% say trump. obviously that is pretty close. but this could be certainly where the clinton campaign thinks the election is going to be in november. >> yeah, absolutely. and donald trump is really making a play for states like,

you know, pennsylvania, ohio, michigan. from the beginning, you know, his message has been sort of this economic populous message that washington has not been working for the middle class. i think that's a message that will work really well for him in the general election, only if he can stay on message. i think matt also makes a really interesting point about the battles that donald trump really has to pick and choose when he's going after hillary clinton. he should not be questioning whether she's qualified or whether she's prepared to be president of the united states. he really needs to go after her weakness and her biggest weakness is whether people think that she is honest and trustworthy. >> alex, you have the concern of people hurting. there's no question that he has tapped into something. we know that. that part of the discussion is over. when people are hurting, they also have very low tolerance for bs at a certain point. they want to know, what are you going to do for me. so there's a little bit of a plus/minus in telling what i'm going to do for you and tell you how my opponent stinks.

that could be playing with fire. >> absolutely. i would add, a lot of people are hurting in ways donald trump is not talking about. if you're a former factory worker who's been hurt by international trade deals, trump is speaking to you. if you're living in the suburbs and you're a paralegal or your mortgage is under water or you're barely above water now after getting hit really hard in the financial crisis, trade deals don't necessarily have anything to do with your experience of a sluggish economic recovery. he needs to find a way to reach those suburban moms and dads, maybe some urban moderate republican and independent voters who are open to the idea of a change but who simply don't relate to the post-industrial experience that has been the framework for the trump campaign. >> matt, does he need to be doing better on the economy against hillary clinton? should donald trump be fearful of where he is? >> he should absolutely be fearful. he's getting crushed. the trajectory is entirely wrong. ever since the conventions he has collapsed. the good news for him is he --

there's no reason to believe he will be disciplined, but he actually still could turn it around. i think the economy is part of it. i really think, even though i don't agree with it in terms of economic policy, his populous message has real appeal. hillary clinton is not likable. she's not popular. and the truth is that she's part of this globalist free trade, you know, paradigm that has fallen out of favor. trump can get to her populous left if he stays disciplined. >> and if he has something to offer beyond saying i'm better than she is. i think that's where he is and that's why this is such a big moment in the campaign. panel, thank you very much. always good to hear what the experts say. but what about the voters? that's what this is going to come down to. we have a panel of republicans and independents. what do they want to hear from donald trump today? and team usa off to a strong start in rio. both swim teams flaunting big victories with one athlete

smashing her own world record. meantime, the women's gymnastics team proving they have what it takes to defend their olympic title. cnn's sports anchor coy wire live in rio with more. coy, give us the latest. >> reporter: hi, brianna. second day of games in the books. the medals already stacking up. on top, you have usa. 12 medals in total for the americans. china has eight. italy and japan tied with seven each. so we'll see how these counts continue to play out. one of the highlights yesterday, katie ledecky. i talked to her earlier in the day just after she had broken the olympic record in the 400 meter free. all smiles. she said it would bode well for the night, and boy was she right. teen sensation katie ledecky shattering her own world record in the 400-meter freestyle. ledecky pulling away from the competition by nearly five

seconds, blazing to gold. michael phelps making a splash in his return to olympic competition, leading the men's 4x100 relay. phelps building up a big lead on the second leg, rocketing his team to the finish. it's the 19th gold medal for phelps, 23rd overall, the most decorated athlete in olympic history. the women's u.s. gymnastics team dominating the competition with jaw-dropping performances, posting the highest scores in all but one event. simone biles making a flawless olympic debut, advancing with ally raisman to complete for best all-around. but on the tennis court, venus and serena williams suffering a shocking defeat, beaten in the first round of women's doubles, a first ever for the sisters at the olympics. also ousted in the first round, the world's number one player, novak djokovic, losing to juan

martin delpotro of argentina. another olympic dream dashed in the women's road race. the netherlands rider taking a terrifying plunge over her handlebars in the downhill stretch. she's in intensive care with a concussion and three spinal fractures but is expected to recover. that's good news to hear. now, what do we want to watch today? day three in rio, we're going to see michael phelps back in the pool, this time in his first individual event, the 200-meter butterfly. we'll also see the dream team in action against venezuela and the u.s. men's gymnastics team. chris cuomo, we'll get some workouts on the beach, buddy. come on down. >> get those pipes working with the fist pump. you look like you should be competing instead of covering

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hillary clinton is extending her lead over donald trump in several national polls. cnn is releasing a brand new poll of polls, which is an average of the last six surveys. it shows donald trump trailing hillary clinton by ten points. so how does he close that gap? that is what he is certainly focused on right now. let's bring back our panel. we have alex burns, m.j. lee, and matt lewis. let's talk about this spread right now. when you're looking at ten point, what does that tell us at this point in the race about where the race is, whether donald trump can come back from this? what do you think? >> i think in a lot of ways, the most important number in that poll of polls is the 39% for trump.

clinton's lead has fluctuated between the low single digits to the high single digits, now just barely cracking double digits. what's revealing is the republican nominee for president after his convention cannot crack 40% of the vote. this is a pattern we saw before he chose mike pence as his running mate, before he delivered his rousing acceptance speech in cleveland. he just seemed to have a ceiling on his support, that a lot of people in the general election simply didn't want to get on board with him. if he falls back into that pattern, that's very ominous for republicans, much more so than whatever clinton's lead happens to be. >> m.j., you could argue he's never left that pattern. he's always been full attack mode. he sees clinton as even more susceptible. let's put up the poll number that feeds his theory, which is the honest/trust number. these are not the most trusted people in america. these are probably the worst

numbers we've ever seen from party nominees at this point in an election. why is this the key for him? >> this is why i was saying earlier that this has to be the issue that trump talks about when it comes to hillary clinton over and over again. yes, deliver your message about the economy, talk about policy. when it comes to hillary clinton, he has to say over and over again she cannot be trusted and she is not honest because that's the issue that frankly bothers voters the most. and that's why i think last week when she sort of had these misleading statements about comey's statements -- >> the head of the fbi. >> -- about her use of a private e-mail server at the state department. that was confusing she didn't just stick to her script of, i said i was sorry, i apologized, i made a mistake, let's move on. that has to be the script she sticks to when she talks about this issue. >> matt, i think you can feel that people are very anxious. we have some poll numbers that are backing that up. people were asked, does a trump presidency make you -- and we

had them rate how anxious. very and somewhat anxious, 70%. you ask the same question to people about hillary clinton in this abc/"washington post" poll, 51%. that is a staggering difference. how does that translate to voter support? >> so donald trump has a lot of problems. he still has an opportunity but a lot of problems. the good news for trump is that seven out of ten americans think we're on the wrong track. so this is a change election. the political universe, the world wants this election to be a change election. hillary clinton is the status quo. she's the establishment candidate that represents where we are today. donald trump could be the change agent. in order to become the change agent, he has to pass a threshold test. he has to be minimally acceptable to the american public. they can't be afraid of him. they can't think that he's, you know, chaotic or undisciplined.

>> how many -- 70% is high. so how many -- >> it's even more than that. it's 70 plus 28, right, because it's very, somewhat. i don't mean add them together. you only have 28% of the people saying you make them comfortable. >> that's right. and you have 70% you're making very uncomfortable. >> so the challenge for donald trump is that hillary clinton has made this election amazingly a referendum on donald trump. donald trump has allowed this to happen. this should be about change versus more of the same. trump should be the change agent. yet, it's now a referendum on trump. he is not passing the threshold test. he needs to be minimally acceptable. that means disciplined. he can't say crazy things for the next 90 days. >> but he didn't set himself up. what did you make of -- clinton teed this up for him. he had a very bad week. i was on vacation, and even i know that. i short circuited. that's like something you think only the clinton campaign would come up with.

she kind of teed it up for him. >> we keep seeing them both do that. that's the other thing. she was sitting down with the fbi. the star of david thing came up. so you're seeing this in the same way. she didn't stick to what she had been saying all along. and i wonder if part of that is because the explanations still to this day, alex, is not that great about the e-mails. so how does she, i guess, manage that? >> i think as m.j. was saying before, the only way to manage this is to try to not talk about it. if you get into the details of litigating the specific decisions and when they were made and why she did them on the e-mails, there are no really good answers for her to give on this, right. i think there are particularly bad answers and short circuited might have been one of them, but there are ways of pivoting away from the issue. i do think that, you know, you do have to wonder. i don't want to be too speculative here, but on some level, hillary clinton has always insisted that she truly didn't do anything wrong, right. when offered the opportunity to

sort of double down on the idea that no, i didn't do anything wrong -- >> so she's revealing, you think, what she really thinks. >> well, i'm not going to put the candidate on the couch, but she has always said there was nothing in particular that was profoundly inappropriate about what she did, and i think it can be difficult for a candidate who feels they've been wronged in some way to maintain that kind of self-control it takes to stop talking about a damaging issue. >> especially when you know it's an issue that does resonate with people and they have definite feelings about. now you're invalidating the voters. that's always a dicey proposition. m.j., alex, thank you very much. brother matt lewis, always good to see you there on the screen. he's got his own tv shot. must be important. >> of course he is. well, summer fun turning to tragedy at a kansas water park. a 10-year-old boy killed in an accident on one of the world's tallest water slides. we're going to talk about what we're learning about the victim and what may have happened here.

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we have breaking news. at least 45 people killed, dozens more injured following an explosion at a hospital in northwestern pakistan. officials say the blast rocked the emergency ward in that hospital. attorneys had gathered at the hospital after a prominent lawyer was gunned down earlier in the day. unclear who was behind the attack. developing overnight, two professors, an american and an australian, kidnapped at gunpoint in western kabul. no group has claimed responsibility for this yet. and these are kidnappings that have happened just days after a taliban rocket attack on a convoy injured six tourists in western afghanistan. and this is just the worst. authorities in kansas are investigating how 10-year-old caleb schwab, the little boy on your screen, the son of a kansas lawmaker, died in one of the world's tallest water slides on sunday. the water slide features this

170-foot drop. you get to go 65 miles an hour. of course, it's been shut down. it's in this park called the schlitterbahn water park in kansas city. the whole park is going to be closed again today. >> they don't seem to know exactly what happened. we're still trying to figure out what did happen. >> it's like these adventure rides, you know, there's always this balance. the question becomes, and why we point out he's the son of a lawmaker, what was the regulation there. was it over the edge? they'll find out and tell us. >> heartbreaking. up next, donald trump versus hillary clinton on the economy. both have major speeches this week. trump is up first. what will we hear from him today? will he stay on message? supporters from both sides weigh in next. stop... clicking around and start saving at hilton.com book direct... and get the lowest price online

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donald trump and hillary clinton finally giving you what you need in this election, which is their economic policy plans. donald trump is first up in detroit. let's discuss what needs to be said and the points of contrast and comparison.

cnn political commentator, former reagan white house political director, looking especially alexander hamilton this morning, jeffrey lord. and former senior adviser to bill clinton and writer for newyorker.com. now, the economy had been an area where donald trump was putting a beatdown on hillary clinton. in the latest poll of polls, it's within the margin of error. it's locked up. so jeffrey lord, trump is going first. this is what people need. they need substance from their candidates. what should we expect to hear today? >> they'll get it. i think he'll be talking about childcare. he'll be talking about the death tax. he'll be talking about the labor participation rate, which is the lowest i think since 1977 when not so coincidentally jimmy carter was in office. he'll be talking about free market economics. the people he has advising him have actually created jobs, something hillary clinton has never done in her life. so i think you can expect some real meat on the bones, as they

say, today. >> meat on the bones. they. he means me. that's what i said just before this segment. thank you for watching the show, jeffrey. >> yes, sir. >> that is this point of strength for trump coming into this, which is i'm a businessman, she is a bureaucrat. that's his attack line. >> i mean, i don't know why that is a point of strength because if you look at his business record, i mean, it's a record of multiple bankruptcies. it's a record of taking advantage of people to get ahead. i mean, i think we will see between now and the election a very thorough examination of his business record. we'll sooe it's not what he maintains it to be. >> do you think when hillary clinton is in detroit on thursday -- today in detroit is donald trump. later in the week, hillary clinton, same venue. do you think she's going to say that or offer an actual plan, affirmative things, not just negative about him? >> i think first of all she has been very specific. i think she'll flush more of that out on thursday. whether or not we see an actual plan from donald trump today,

you know, his plans up until now have been simply, i'm going to put great people in charge, and the results are going to be great. so i think he's hired some extreme right-wing economists, traditional republican extreme right-wing economists. he's put them in charge of developing a plan. whether it's a plan he sticks to. but i think what we see in the outlines of the plan that we're hearing about already are, you know, more tax breaks for the rich. we're hearing budget proposals that would raise the debt. we're not hearing anything about the minimum wage. so i think on substance, it is a very old-fashioned, extreme right republican policies that have never proven to grow the economy. from hillary, i think you will see a massive plan to invest in infrastructure, in roads, bridges, technology and a jobs plan. >> jeffrey, disagree. >> that's just more of the same. i would suggest that's just more

of the same here. hillary clinton is the candidate of the status quo. this is obamanomics, and it hasn't worked up until now. it's never going to work. it has never worked in the past. it isn't going to work in the future. it doesn't work now. she had a freudian slip the other day when she said she was going to -- she meant to say not raise taxes, but she had that slip and said she was going to raise taxes on the middle class. that is, in fact, what happens when you do this. she's giving this speech in detroit. detroit is a mess. it's been run by democrats for decades. it is a mess because of their policies. >> jeffrey, let's look at the economy. i mean, obviously more americans have to be in a position to take full advantage of the good that's happening in the economy. we've created a lot of new jobs since president obama took over and the economy is headed in the right direction. now, hillary's policies, i

think, will accelerate that. when you talk about tax breaks, i mean, hillary is for lowering taxes on the middle class, lowering taxes on working families. it is mr. trump who is advocating this massive tax breaks for the rich, which he thinks will spur the economics of the system which have proven time and time again not to work. >> no, that's not accurate. that's simply not accurate. >> we'll see what the plan is today. >> hold on. let jeffrey put it out there. >> what he's talking about is classical economics. and let's just remember here that hillary clinton, wife of former president clinton, whose national housing strategy got us, planted the seeds for the quote/unquote great recession, is a firm believer in these policies that got us into trouble in the first place. >> jeffrey, let me tell you though, don't bring up bill clinton's economic record because bill clinton ushered in and presided over the most

robust economy in our generation. i mean, the economics at the end of eight years of bill clinton, the national debt was paid down. we were not incurring anymore deficits. bill clinton presided over the best eight years of the american economy in my lifetime. >> because he continued reaganomics. that's why. >> i thought you weren't a reagan fan, jeffrey. you got the picture of him behind you. >> exactly. bill clinton continued on with reaganomics. he tinkered with it. >> all right, guys. jeffrey, richard, thank you very much. appreciate it. politics can get very tricky here. that's why the policy is so important. brian brianna, today we're going to hear what donald trump has for the american people. the policy, the what and the how. >> and we're going to hear much more on clinton versus trump

when we talk with our panel of voters. do they like what they're hearing? plus, rain and lots of it in store for people in the southeast. chad myers joining us with the forecast next.

people across the southeast are bracing for heavy rain and possible flooding in some areas that could see more than a foot of rain. cnn meteorologist chad myers joining us now with the forecast. chad, what should we be waiting for here? >> brianna, there's a system in the gulf of mexico, and it's not

tropical, doesn't have a name. it's not earl or anything like that. it is sitting there, and it is going to drift onshore. we're going to have significant rain from tampa all the way to new orleans. there will be spots with 12 to 15 inches of rain in the next five days. a lot of this is low land, but it will still flood. look what we've had already overnight. taylor county in florida, flash flood warning. parts of perry, florida, under water this morning. high water rescues taking place there. it's all of this moisture in the gulf. it could have been something, but it was kind of too close to land over the weekend. now it's just feeding on that gulf of mexico moisture, and it won't move. and this is the problem with these storms we're going to have. once it rains at your house, it may rain for three hours if you're anywhere from new orleans all the way to tampa. and that could cause flooding. the storms have no jet stream to move them away. it's just going to rain for hours in places. >> ten inches of rain. my goodness. chad myers, thank you. all right. let's take a little break. when we come back, no question the polls have taken a turn for

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we want to ask voters if trump is in a slump and how have his recent controversies affected who they are supporting. we're joined now by a panel of republican and independent voters to find out about this. i want to ask you, nick, first, what you think. you were leaning trump. >> yes. >> and you are now undecided. >> yeah. >> what has happened recently that has moved you there? >> over the past couple months, just looking at his rhetoric, the stuff that he was saying. >> was there something specific that really bothered you? >> just his decisive language in general. one of the main points i have, is if there's a divide in his party, how is he going to unite the united states of america? >> well, look, that's a key consideration. now, three people on the panel are decidedly with trump, right? you all made the determination. i know you're an independent voter, but you have signed on to help his campaign. you know this is the big stick

against you. especially being muslim-american and representing muslims as part of a voter coalition. why would you support donald trump? >> donald trump is writing histo history. he's an outsider. hillary, everybody knows what she has done. she started a political experience since she was 17. tim kaine started from the city council. professional politicians. that's why washington, d.c., is not working at all. obviously it's not functioning. and donald trump is the only hope so far we have who has proven track record. >> when your friends heard you were going to try to create a muslims for trump, you had to get some stink from them about this because of whathesaid specifically to muslims just about islam. he consistently defines the entire faith as problematic for america. what do you tell them? >> my take on this is he's the

first person among the 17 of them who has identified radicalism. isis grew up on hillary's watch. he's the only candidate who has some determination. he's willing to learn where the hatred is coming from in islam. not only this, i have been trying to explain to other muslims that we are victim of oppression and radicalism in our own countries and our own societies. so the only person who's willing to do something is donald trump. >> i want to look at some of the distractions we have seen. this is just since the rnc. this is not a lot of time that has passed. he first refused to endorse paul ryan and john mccain. he's since changed his mand. he feuded with these gold star parents who spoke sort of on behalf of hillary clinton at the dnc. he suggested women should quit their job if sexually harassed.

he confused whether russia has gone into ukraine with crimea. and he called on russia to hack hillary clinton's e-mails. i guess to you, sarah, when you look at that, you're someone who is a republican but you're now supporting hillary clinton. as you see this pattern, is that having anything to do with why you're crossing party lines here? >> no, i mean, that pattern has been there from the beginning. i think underlying it is trump, when he feels attacked or if someone is against him, he lashes out. he doesn't have that, you know, circuit in the brain to say, pause, think, and then speak. so that's been a pattern he's had from the beginning. the thing that tilted me to shift toward hillary, and that's a little bit of an exaggeration. i'm not for hillary in the sense i'm really into the republican economic platform. however, it's the behavior of

the people in the united states that has changed as a result of trump behavior, trump statements and so forth. that, to me, is the danger going forward. if we have this person as the role model in chief for the united states, you know, his way of attacking people, of calling names, it's just bringing out the worst in the american people. whether it's in the republican convention, whether it's at rallies, whether it's on the streets where he's not even around, it's just the behavior is something that we have to get away from. >> so let's get you in on this. you have decided we're going to support trump, but it's kind of because of exactly what sarah just said. larry, you say, no, no, no, he's not generating the bad, he's speaking about the bad, and he's coming out and speaking the truth for the first time. kind of like what sajid said. why do you think people resonate with him? >> well, to change the polls? >> because he's down right now in this poll of polls.

why do you think that's not an accurate reflection? >> first of all, those polls normally cover democrats. i feel like the media coverage is a big blame for that. you take something like a baby crying at a rally, and you make that a big headline. that's not a big headline. a big headline to me is the 58% of african-americans that has gone up on food stamps. or the african-americans that are out of work due to the policies of democrats in the last eight years. so we were under a black president with those numbers. how do we -- where do we see hillary helping us when she thinks of us as super predators? so i don't see those polls as accurate. when i look at her rallies, no one is there. you know, you guys sort of cover a certain section of her rallies to make it look like a lot of people are there. and there are not. so the people polls show that. people are out there, excited in arenas for trump.

social immediate dwmedia shows . it doesn't show that for hillary. so i think the polls are a little skewed. >> you guys stay with us so you can talk more with us. thank you very much for giving us some perspective on this. we'll bring the panel back a little later on in the show to discuss more of the election. there's a lot of news. we have break news of a nonpolitical variety. delta shut down all departing flights all over the world. why? let's get to it. delta airlines experiencing a global computer outage. >> grounding all departing flights around the world. >> thousands of delta passengers are currently on stand by. >> unstable hillary clinton. >> donald trump doesn't represent who we are and what we believe. >> she is a totally unhinged person. >> i have heard hillary clinton say over and over again, i made a mistake, and i wouldn't do it again. >> i may have short circuited.

>> the people of this country don't want somebody that's going to short circuit up here. >> donald trump trailing hillary clinton by ten points. >> another big day for the americans. >> teen sensation katie ledecky blazing to gold. >> michael phelps swam to his 19th career gold. >> the women's gymnastics team proving they have what it takes to defend their olympic title. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> how impressive. are you more impressed by the swimming so far or the gymnastics? >> that's very hard to choose. >> make a choice. >> all right. i'll pick the swimming. pretty amazing. >> i would have never said that. no, kidding. >> he's impossible. >> the u.s. is on top. we'll tell you why. good morning, first. "new day" is here with you. alisyn is off. brianna keilar is here. we have breaking news. not about the olympics. this is coming out of the airports. a system wide computer outage

grounding departing delta flights all over the world. airports are now just packed with tens of thousands of frustrated travelers. >> and at this point, we don't even know what caused this outage. we don't know how long it's going to last. you want to bring in cnn aviation correspondent rené marsh. she's live in washington with the breaking details. perhaps some of them are that we don't know a lot about the extent of this. >> reporter: exactly. we don't know what caused this. we don't know how long this will last. we can tell you that this morning there is a global ground stop for delta airlines flights waiting to take off. we know that delta operates thousands of flights per day. that means this is widespread problems today for travelers. just take a look at some of the lines already. we have lines in rome. also delays at london's heathrow airport. and of course expect delays right here in the united states. the airline is blaming this on a computer system outage. again, there is no timeline for when the issue will be fixed, but even when it is fixed, the

damage will already be done. it will take quite some time before they can clear that backlog of passengers. we know that flights already in the air are landing without a problem. it's the flights that have not taken off that are grounded. again, no word yet on exactly which system has been interrupted and exactly what caused the outage, but brianna, we have seen this sort of thing happen before with multiple other airlines where a small computer glitch leads to big, big problems for travelers. exactly what we're seeing here today. >> all right. rené, thank you so much. i want to bring in cnn aviation analyst mary schiavo. she was also inspector general at the transportation department. you're watching this, mary. you have a lot of experience watching disruptions. how crippling is this one? >> well, it's very crippling because it's a ripple effect. a glitch in the morning like this where you have to delay all your flights, this will last for days because, remember, we have airlines have moved to the point

where they have very little excess capacity. that was to make them very profitable. if you're canceled or your flight doesn't go of they have to rebook passengers on other airlines, there's just no space for them. >> how is there no duplicate system here? i guess we're still trying to figure out exactly what system went down. delta hasn't put that out yet. how does something like this happen? >> you know, to make an international system running transportation work, it takes not one, not two, but really three systems. i was inspector general when we were doing the buildout for the air traffic control system, which is now completely computerized. it took one system running, one system for continuous maintenance, and one system for automatic backup if the main system goes down. of course, it's very, very expensive. billions of dollars to build that system. the taxpayers paid for that one. so a lot of airlines don't have that kind of robust system. but so far in the last year, united, american, and southwest twice have had these, and it has

not been an external hack. it's been an internal self-caused problem, if you will. >> so when people look at this and say, oh, my goodness, could this be a hacking, you think that it probably is not. >> well, statistically speaking, all the other airlines that have experienced them in the last year, it has not been an external hack. but there are reports on twitter that a pilot has said that it was a hack. so i think that's probably where people are getting that. some pilots might be speculating or maybe they know. but there has been reports on twitter that it was a hack. >> okay. and your advice to all these people. we see them in these photos on twitter. they're sleeping in the terminals. what advice do you have for passengers? >> ordinarily what i do when the airline i'm on can't deliver my flight, i say endorse my ticket to the next airline that's leaving. they have to do that under u.s. law. the problem is, because all of the delta system is down,

they're unable to endorse your ticket over because that, too, is run by the computer. >> oh, my goodness. mary schiavo, sounds like a disaster. thank you for your insight. >> now to politics. donald trump using hillary clinton's own words to launch his most personal, you could argue, attack yet. questioning her mental fitness to be president. this comes as trump's poll numbers are falling. today trump will unveil his plan to revitalize the u.s. economy. cnn's jason carroll live in detroit with more. jason, he's trying to get away from the style problems by going to substance. could be good for the voters. >> right. and the substance would be economic substance. this is an area trump subpoena familiar with. it happens to be one of his strengths. we're getting some idea of what some of the key proposals will be when he gives his economic policy speech a little later on today. it will all be about lowering taxes. for example, reducing the income tax. also a tax credit for childcare

payments. also ending the death tax. all this in an attempt to reset his campaign after an extremely, extremely rocky week. >> she is a totally unhinged person. she's unbalanced. all you have to do is watch her. >> reporter: donald trump stepping up his blistering attacks on hillary clinton, suggesting the former secretary of state is mentally unfit to be president. >> the people of this country don't want somebody that's going to short circuit up here. >> reporter: trump using clinton's own words against her. she continues to repeat a debunk claim that the fbi director said she was truthful about her use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state. >> so i may have short circuited, and for that i, you know, will try to clarify. >> reporter: clinton's running mate, senator tim kaine, coming to her defense. >> she said over and over again,

i made a mistake and i've learned from it and i'm going to fix it. we're going to be real transparent, absolutely. >> reporter: trump's ramped up rhetoric against clinton coming ahead of his speech on economic policy in detroit, where he's expected unveil his agenda for revitalizing the american economy. all this as the republican nominee is coming off one of the worst weeks of his campaign that saw trump repeatedly engaged in controversies instead of focusing on clinton and battling slumping poll numbers in a number of key battle ground states. >> he's going to win parts of ohio where people are really hurting, but i still think it's difficult if you are dividing to be able to win in ohio. i think it's really, really difficult. >> reporter: and this morning, a new cnn poll shows hillary clinton with a ten percentage point lead nationally, leaving some in the party saying it's time for trump to pivot his campaign. >> he needs to change and particularly change the tone and tenor of the debate sufficient to win the election in november.

>> reporter: and trump made an >> reporter: sor still questions about trump's tone and rhetoric. he did try to turn the page with those last-minute endorsements of key republicans like senators john mccain and kelly ayotte and house speaker paul ryan. but still questions if that will be enough to really get this campaign back on track. clinton, for her part, she will be holding her economic policy speech here in detroit. chris, that will take place on thursday. >> all right, jason. and we just got a copy of donald trump's speech for today. very clever. debt a jump on the news cycle. we will oblige him because we're talking about economic policy, and you need to hear about it. let's discuss what's going to be in the speech today. is it good for you? is it not as good as what clinton might offer? cnn political kmcommentator, jo phillips. and cnn political commentator and vice chair of the new york

state democratic party, christine quinn, therefore obviously a clinton supporter. so he's got a five-point plan in here. he starts off with the premise that the last quarter's growth was 1.2%. he says that's very weak, the weakest one of a recovery since the great depression. his summary is trump is the candidate of the future. hillary clinton is the candidate of the past. john, let's start with you. he has to put out substance today. it's a good way to get away from his style problems of late. what do you expect out of this? >> well, just changing the subject line from his feuds with john mccain and cnn and others and talking about the issues, talking about economics, is something that's a win in and of itself and i think will help stabilize his poll numbers. the fact this speech is being given in the state of michigan is no surprise. clearly his path to victory comes from the rust belt. this is a part of america that even hillary clinton and bill clinton have acknowledged have

been left behind. what donald trump needs to do as he lays out this economic message is explain to the american voters, yes, you've been left behind in the rust belt, but who have you been left behind by? they've been in charge for eight years, the democrats have. hillary is running as the third term of the obama administration. he needs to hang these lousy economic numbers around her neck. >> the easiest thing for people to pick up on here will be he does taxes, regulatory, trade, energy, and other reforms to be rolled out in the near future. one of those is repealing obamacare. let's stick with taxes for today. that will resonate most with people. it's hard for someone to not agree with what he's going to have in this speech. simplify taxes for everybody. lowerer taxes for everybody. reduce the income tax. simplify the income tax from seven brackets to three. exclude childcare expenses. limit taxation of business income to 15% for every business. the keyword there would be small business. very often democrats neglect

them in their policies. maybe our corporate tax globally competitive and end the death tax. do you think clinton can do better than those proposals? >> one big question i have, and i'll be looking for the specifics when he gives the speech, is when he says cut taxes for all, does that mean he's standing business his tax proposal for the richest in the country? what we need to be doing is what secretary clinton is doing, focusing tax cuts on those most in need and then those who have money keeping their money in the system to support other people in need. so i think secretary clinton, what we'll hear from her on thursday, will be an economic plan that is really targeted on folks like those in the rust belt and those businesses in the rust belt, small businesses and others, that will help pick their neighbors up. not really something that when you get into the weeds, i suspect, will be a giveaway to

billionaires. >> economists have this acronym they love. tgtbt. too good to be true. he's giving tax cuts to even. he's getting rid of that kind of boogeyman for people in their lives. is he going to be making a claim that sounds good but may not seem doable? >> well, he'd have to follow up these tax cuts with cuts in spending, which he says he's also going to do. if he holds to his word on that, he'll when just fine. i want to make a point about the death tax. that's applicable to people in the rust belt. you have a lot of people rich on paper. if something happens when these people die and their children inherit their business and they have to come up with the money to pay taxes on it, many times they can't do that and they're forced to sell the business and move off in a different direction. this just isn't an economic issue to these people. this is a lifestyle issue. this is their well being.

this is how their raise their families. this is their life. >> it actually doesn't say in the speech right now they're going to be cost neutral. you're right in general. whatever you cut for taxes, that's the revenue for the government. he doesn't lay that out in here because that raises a tough question. what are you going to cut? >> and because that's what governing is actually about. those kind of details, those kind of choices, those kind of tough decisions. in this campaign, we have seen donald trump in no way shape or form embrace the reality of what it's going to mean to be president. we've seen none of that. i suspect, i haven't seen it, this plan will be more of the same. >> more of the same? >> of his -- >> i got you, but that's his stick against your candidate, which is you're running for a third term of president obama's policies. you guys say how great the economy is. not for people in detroit. not for people in the rust belt. that's one of his main arguments. that's going to bring this home and make it difficult for

hillary clinton. >> it may or may not because he may put out plans today that have no -- as we've seen before in other areas with donald trump, that have no basis in reality, have no facts to back them up, and as we've seen in the past, economists from both parties, neutral economists with no agenda at all, have said his plans just don't stack up and don't make any sense. and let's be clear, does hillary clinton support president obama, think he's a great president, was she honored to be his secretary of state? yes. is she going to build on some of what he's done? absolutely, but she will be her own president. i worry if we get to the point where donald trump puts out the cuts that would back up the cuts in spending, is he going to go back and double down on prior ideas like privatizing parts of the va? that is not going to make anything better. it's just going to take services away and put them out of the control of taxpayers to impact.

>> real quickly, john. >> hillary clinton originally said the tpp, which is very important to the rust belt. free trade has been a disaster for that part of the country. she supported it, said it was the gold standard, then came out against it. then at the democratic convention, terry mcauliffe was running around saying, oh, don't worry, as soon as she gets elected, she's going to be for it again. people in the rust belt are paying attention. >> terry mcauliffe, he shouldn't have said whatever he said, but the secretary has been clear. she's changed her position, just in the same way we see donald trump's vice president now changing his position. donald trump wants to have two standards. one for himself, one for everybody else. and i suspect this so-called economic plan will be just that. >> we'll see what is put out. john phillips, thank you very much. christine quinn, as always. brian brianna, to you. team usa is off to a strong start in rio. both swim teams with major victories, one athlete even smashing her own world record. meantime, the women's gymnastics

team pulling off some amazing performances in an effort to defend their title. cnn sports anchor coy wire is live in rio with more. coy? >> reporter: brianna, we had world records being broken, medals being won. the second day of games is in the books. let's look at how the medals are stacking up. on top, the u.s. of a. 12 medals in total, three gold. china has eight. italy and japan tied with seven apiece. now, one of the highlights from yesterday came from one of the greatest female swimmers the world has ever seen. i sat with her over a little over a month ago. she says she's addicted to cnn. well, katie ledecky, we can't get enough of you either. teen sensation katie ledecky shattering her own world record in the 400-meter freestyle. ledecky pulling away from the competition by nearly five seconds, blazing to gold. michael phelps making a splash in his return to olympic

competition, leading the men's 4x100 relay. phelps building up a big lead on the second leg, rocketing his team to the finish. it's the 19th gold medal for phelps, 23rd overall, the most decorated athlete in olympic history. the women's u.s. gymnastics team dominating the competition with jaw-dropping performances, posting the highest scores in all but one event. simone biles making a flawless olympic debut, advancing with ally raisman to compete for best all-around. but on the tennis court, venus and serena williams suffering a shocking defeat, beaten in the first round of women's doubles, a first ever for the sisters at the olympics. also ousted in the first round, the world's number one player, novak djokovic, losing to juan martin delpotro of argentina. another olympic dream dashed in the women's road race.

the netherlands rider taking a terrifying plunge over her handlebars in the downhill stretch. she's in intensive care with a concussion and three spinal fractures but is expected to recover. all right. what to watch for today on day three here in rio. michael phelps back in the pool. his first individual event, the 200-meter butterfly prelims and semis. the dream team taking action against venezuela. and the u.s. men's gymnastics team can grab gold in the team competition. one of my favorite story lines here, the first american to compete at an olympics wearing a hijab. fascinating stories to inspire us in these olympic games continue on day three. i mentioned katie ledecky loves cnn, is addicted to it. but chris, i have to say that wolf blitzer is her favorite. it's okay though. no worries. you're still number one in my heart. and she said it's because that's

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schocky. this all started when hillary clinton tried to explain recently how she mischaracterized the fbi director's comments about her e-mail situation. she said she may have short circuited it. that led donald trump to say this. let's listen. >> it was in front of some friendly reporters. they asked her a very easy question. and she short circuited. she used the term short kir suted. she took a little short circuit in the brain, and she's got problems. i mean, if we had real people, this would be a real problem for her. but i think that the people of this country don't want somebody that's going to short circuit up here. >> he's questioning basically her mental stability. what is your reaction to that? >> you know what, he's coming off an epically terrible few week on this campaign. he disrespected a gold star family. he didn't seem to understand

that russia has already invaded crimea. he just had a terrible few weeks. so he did what donald trump does, which is lash out, attack people, and name call. that's what he was doing in this case. he's certainly trying to change the news cycle and create a distraction after he's had a very, very rough few weeks. >> your candidate has changed some of the conversation as well because of how she talked about her e-mail situation while she was secretary of state. she did deviate a little. i want to play what started all of this when she spoke to chris wallace and she was explaining what the fbi director said about her e-mail. here's what she said. >> director comey said my answers were truthful and what i've said is consistent with what i have told the american people. that there were decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain e-mails.

>> so that was a little over a week ago on sunday. then on wednesday she was talking to kusa in denver, and she said as the fbi said, everything that i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful with what i've told them. again, that is not the case. that has not stood the test of fact checking. she did say on friday that she had short circuited. but what is she doing when she's sort of in a week like this where it would behoove her to let donald trump just sort of stew with what's been going on. she kind of steals defeat from the jaws of victory, if you will. >> on friday she spoke to the nabj and naha in d.c. she was asked the question, and she just wanted to clarify. this is an issue that she has said many times that she is sorry for. it was a mistake. she regrets the decision. she was just trying to clarify. it's a confusing issue. we're talking about three e-mails out of more than 30,000. she was just saying she had linked together two thoughts. what comey said was she was

truthful in her testimony to the fbi. >> he said they have no basis to believe she lied to the fbi. >> that's right. >> which you're taking him saying truthful. but that's not a quote. that's a paraphase. >> yes, and she was saying what she's always said to the american people is what's consistent to what she said to the fbi. she was linking together two thoughts. what's important here is she said this was a mistake. she said she was sorry. she was trying to explain the situation to people. we're talking about three e-mails out of 30,000. >> two points, and i hear from the campaign saying you're talking about three e-mails. they seem to be focused very much on these e-mails that were marked classified. then there was misclarification. but there were other statements she made, specifically that the fbi director was asked about. she had said, i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there is no classified material. that was a public statement. when asked about that, director comey said there was classified material e-mailed. he said this had gone both ways.

why does she say something like, i short circuited? why does she -- >> he's talking about 110 e-mails she has consistently said she does not believe were classified. he himself in testimony said they were not marked classified. they didn't have -- >> but some were classified at the time. >> she disagrees with that. so do the professionals who were e-mails her that information. she received e-mails from more than 300 experts at the state department and other agencies who understand the classified system. and they disagree. so that's a disagreement about that, but again, she has said this was a mistake, and she's taken responsibility for it. >> i want to ask you about the honest and trustworthiness numbers. we have this in a poll that we can put up there. when asked, when voters are asked, who do you find to be honest and trustworthy, both candidates do pretty dismally. hillary clinton gets 38%, donald

trump 34%. she's just three points behind him on the nose. is she resigned to the fact that may not change and that the strategy is to attack donald trump instead on trustworthiness than deal with increasing her trustworthines trustworthiness? >> she understands this is a concern. she's going to talk to people about her values, what she's done her entire life to make a difference in people's lives. i think what we heard at the convention was speaker after speaker talk about what hillary's done her entire life as an advocate for children and families. she's really delivered for people. we've also heard from people who know what it takes to do the job to be president of the united states. like former cia director mike morell, who came out and endo e endorsed here. that's really important. people who know her know she delivers. people who know what it takes to be president of the united states trust her to do this job. >> christina, thank you.

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all right. in just hours, donald trump is going to unveil what he says is a major economic plan in a speech in detroit. hillary clinton says she's going to counter trump's plan later this week, also in detroit. we just got a copy of donald trump's highlights, what points he's going to make today. let's discuss them. we have global affairs and economic analyst ali velshi. and former lieutenant governor of new york, betsy mccoy. she supports donald trump. so this is very interesting that he put this out. one, smart. gets him into the news cycle early on. he's nothing, if not savvy. what's interesting in this is let's start with the points of contrast, okay. he states in here the differences between him and hillary clinton. the first one is interesting.

hillary clinton accepts projections that we're only going to grow at 2% a year. she's an extension of the status quo. this is his big issue. why? >> that's right because right now our economy is limping along at 1.2% growth. way below what some other countries are achieving. ireland, for example, is growing at 8%. and a major reason for our very poor economy is high corporate tax rates. that is the most important part of donald trump's economic proposal, to slash corporate tax rates. >> he says the top will be 15% for all businesses, large or small. >> that's right, large or small. right now american companies' nominal rate, 35%. they, in fact, pay about 27%. but that's compared with 20% in england, 15% in canada, 12.5% in ireland. so companies are rushing to those countries to do business, and our workers are losing jobs. >> ali, how do you see it?

>> yeah, this is interesting what betsy said. this is where trump is on to something. he's got a very pro-growth message. he also has a lot of tax cuts, and the math doesn't actually work on them. as betsy said, i'm in toronto where the tax rate has been reduced. the corporate tax rate to 15%. it's actually been net positive. so this is something america has to do. it's got a higher tax rate than a lot of places, but a lot of companies don't pay those taxes. if you want to lower the tax rate to 15%, you've got to apply it across the board. that's something that requires tax code changes that are hard to achieve. problem number two, donald trump is giving this speech in detroit. it's got to be a populist message, including one about fighting tpp and other trade agreements. it's very hard to convince people that you're going to cut corporate tax rates unless, as he proposes, you're also cutting personal tax rates. his proposals there are very

interesting, but they're very exee expensive and very hard to get done. that said, if he could do the things he proposes today, it actually could be pro-growth, which does make this an important speech for trump. >> and let me point out that hillary clinton's economic plan, which will be unveiled thursday, includes business tax increases to pay for her infrastructure plans. and those business tax increases are projected to cost the economy growth and to cost jobs. for example, the independent tax foundation predicts that hillary clinton's business tax hikes will cost 311,000 jobs and slice another 1% off our already very low growth in gdp. moody's analytics, another neutral source, has warned that hillary clinton's proposals will produce absolutely no increase in private sector investment. and that is the biggest problem we're facing right now. >> but you have analysts who beat up both plans.

ali, we just had somebody who trump just brought on as a senior economic adviser say, well, his plan to reduce the deficit in eight years, probably won't be able to do that. >> that's obviously true, but if you look at what's wrong with our economy right now, we have three consecutive quarters of declining business investment. and when that happens, it costs us jobs. when businesses don't buy another truck, they can't hire another worker. when they don't buy another computer, they can't hire another office worker. and that is exactly what's happeni happening. despite the jobs numbers that came out friday, it appears as if our economy is heading into a recession. >> ali, make a counterpoint. >> that's absolutely not true. it's just absolutely not true. it is not appearing that the u.s. economy is heading into a recession. that kind of old logic doesn't apply. we've had greater jobs growth in the last few years than we have seen for decades. in fact, 255,000 net new jobs. so that's the problem with the

argument. it's just not true that current policies are actually bad for the u.s. economy. >> i'm dealing with the facts. >> i'm dealing with facts too. the labor participation rate has been going down for years, much of which has to do with a population that's actively retiring. i don't disagree with you that's the single biggest challenge, but donald trump has taken one of three economic indicators. the unemployment rate, the jobs lost and created, and the labor force participation rate. this someone the problem. it's the only one that he talks about. the other ones are actually quite positive. so you can't just pick and choose which parts of the economy you say are bad. there's an income inequality problem in america. there's not actually an overall economic growth issue in america. >> oh, my gosh. we are growing at 1.2%. if only we were growing at 8% like ireland, then people would have a promising future.

>> we've never groan -- grown at 8%. america and ireland are not even remotely similar. >> they were in our situation until they slashed their corporate tax rate. canada is experiencing growth double the u.s. rate because left and right got together and realized one thing we can't afford is a high corporate tax rate. and that's what we have to do in america to realize that when we raise the corporate tax rate like hillary wants to do and make corporations pay their fair share, those who suffer are the workers who lose their jobs. >> final point, ali. >> betsy, you have my agreement on the corporate tax rates. i already told you that. i'm in toronto right now. absolutely it works. the difference is, hillary clinton, while her plan is not nearly as exciting and she has a lot of explaining to do about her flipping on trade deals, the bottom line is she's worked a little harder to get the math. she says, if i want to offer all these great things, i've got to increase taxes. donald trump has said, i'm going to lower taxes and i'm going to offer all these great things.

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build a wall to keep undocumented immigrants out and make mexico pay for it. but how? according to trump's campaign website, he'd cut the flow of money transfers into mexico in order to force the country to pay up. what if it becomes reality? cnn's rosa flores looks at how it might impact one mexican town. >> reporter: the mexican village might as well be in the united states. homes, roads, businesses, all mostly paid for with american dollars. people here don't speak english, but they understand two words. donald trump. >> who's going to pay for the wall? 100%. >> reporter: trump says if mexico doesn't pitch in $5 billion to $10 billion to pail f -- pay for the border wall, he's cut off money transfers.

they receive up to $200 monthly from their son juan, an undocumented immigrant living in chicago. with those $200 a month, she says she has to pay for everything. food, electricity, water. getting that money comes at a high price. she doesn't get to see her son. donald trump maintains it's de facto welfare for poor families in mexico. in chicago, martha's son juan says his parents would starve or die if trump's threat materializes. it's a very deep pain. >> yeah. >> reporter: hen and his wife crossed the border illegally 21 years ago. [ speaking spanish ]

he has a legal illinois driver's license and a mortgage on a chicago-style bungalow. this is what homes looks like two decades ago when juan left. with outdoor laundry rooms and kitchens. where does the money to kruk these homes come from? [ speaking spanish ] a village leader tells us that the money is not just coming from illinois but also oregon, california, and arkansas, and it doesn't stop at homes. the church, community college, and park also paid for by money transfers. the clues of just how many dollars are invested here are peppered all over town on signs like these, showing how the mexican government encourages migrants to send money back by matching every dollar on public projects like the greenhouses that you see behind me three to

one. alfredo owns a lawn care business in chicago and sends money to family. but he's in the u.s. legally. [ speaking spanish ] what would happen if trump stopped money transfers to mexico? [ speaking spanish ] it's going to lead to illegal immigration, you're saying. he says desperate people in mexico will head to the u.s. for opportunity. a recent gao report found that some law enforcement officials believe restricting the legal amount of money transfers could drive transactions into an underground black market. while the situation in franciscovilla might seem precarious, this village has a reach that might actually count this november. rosa flores, cnn, mexico's

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correspondent and analyst christine brennan. i know you watched katie ledecky win. tell us about what that was like. >> reporter: it was fantastic. it was really the culmination for katie ledecky of two years of trying to chase her own world record. she came saying i want to get that number, and finally, she did. oh, by the way, she also, of course, got the olympic gold medal. she got faster as the race went on. it is 400 meters, eight lapse back and forth. this is not a short race. to see her dominate by two or three body lengths, extraordinary. more for katie ledecky. already, i think we can see why she is the rock star of the pool for u.s. women. >> i'm waiting to see whether it is the word mercury or evan rude. i've never seen anything like

it. let's go to the phelps factor. christine, starting with you. phelps won a relay gold. already in the books. do you think he can win in individual? >> reporter: oh, i do, chris. absolutely. he has the 100 fly, 200 fly, 200 im and maybe one more replay. that's just the beginning for michael phelps. at age 31, these young kids are 10, 12 years younger than he is. for his fifth olympics is extraordinary. he had an incredible leg of the relay last night. >> we saw the bruises, which is probably from cupping, it is supposed to help with performance. do you think he has it in the tank? >> reporter: no question about it. i think he has a clear heart, a clear mind. he said when he was on, he could feel his heart get ready to jump out of his chest. you think after winning 23 medals, this would be a mundane, routine thing.

he is excited. he swam the fastest split he ever swam. he is 31 years old, as christine mentioned, and still like this. he talked about the importance of his son, boomer, here at the olympic games with his if he fi of why he is feeling inspired. keep an eye on boomer's outfits. but also, you know, he has a clear mind. he has been through his mind. he is not drinking any more. he is here and focused and you're seeing what happens when rare talent and athleticism combines with a fresh focus. look out. >> and i want to talk, christine about the expectations that we have for simone. i mean, this is, i think we always go into a summer olympics games, and there is so much pressure on a very young female gymnast, and simone biles is the one here. what are we expecting, and do you think that the outcome could be given than sort of this

expectation that's being put on her? >> there is, right, breanna. a ton of expectations, the weight of the world on her shoulders. when you see these gymnasts, oh, they're little girls or young women. these are tough athletes. you would want them in the fox hole with you for world war three. they're as tough as any offensive lineman in the super bowl. that's what we're going see from simone biles. she could be the most decorated gymnast, ever, bri. that's why everyone is so focused. but this is pressure, and your point is a really good one. is she going to be able to handle this. she has never felt this in the world championships she has won and the u.s. national championships. we will a see her with the team event and then onward with the individual events. i think she'll do very well here. >> when you watch her, compared to other female gymnasts, is there something she brings that we haven't seen before? something special about her?

>> well there is. she is building on mary lou rett retton. >> powerful. >> yeah, she has these moves that you just don't see anyone else do. then the ultimate confidence. this is the total package. we've seen great american gymnasts, romaine yan, if you put them altogether, this is the one. she is, like what michael phelps does or katie ledecky does in the pool, that once in a lifetime, simone biles could be that one person here. >> how big is it that a-rod is announcing he is leaving the game? >> you know, he has, what, over $400 million in his lifetime earnings from contracts. hey, i don't blame him one bit. why go out and play these games, he can be sitting at home watching them. it was definitely big news. i wanted to touch up on what

simone biles, this girl, the thing that i see that makes her so great, she has no concept of fear. she is doing things that coaches and other gymnasts are saying that she is doing things that other athletes don't even think about trying, because they're fearful of a devastating injury. she doesn't care. she is going for it and nailing it. man, i'm getting the goose bumps thinking about what she is able to do and what she could continue to do in the olympic gays. >> -- games. >> thank you so much. we have breaking news happening right here. let's get to it. system wide computer outage grounding delta flights all over the world. >> folks, we're playing games with hillary. >> i may have short circuited it and for that, i will try to clarify. >> she took the short kir cut in

the brain. >> she said over and over i made mistake and i'll fix it. >> donald trump trailing hillary clinton by ten points. how does he close the gap. >> look at the last few days, i think he got the message. >> it is day three of the olympic games. >> katie ledecky took her first gold of the game, breaking her own record. >> u.s. gymnastics team, dominating the competition. >> it is michael phelps' 19th gold medal. >> breaking records in rio. >>announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning, welcome to "new day." it is 8:00 in the east. alisyn is off. breanna keilar is here. thank you for joining us. >> of course. we have this massive system-wide outage affecting delta airlines. tens of thousands of frustrated travelers, not just here in the

yuch u.s., all around the world. >> delta is telling us what may have caused this. cnn aviation correspondent, rene marsh, is live at reagan airport with the breaking details. we're figuring you are out the why here, rene? >> reporter: yeah, we do know that there was a power outage, breanna, in atlanta around 2:30 this morning and that's what delta is blaming for this computer glitch that's causing wide-spread problems. we're talking about a global ground stop for delta airlines. the airlines says that passengers should expect large scale cancelations today. again, they're blaming that on a power outage in atlanta. we should tell you that delta operates thousands of flights everyday. so we're talking about tens of thousands of passengers impacted here. we're already hearing from airports in new york city, jfk, laguard laguardia, their computers are down and unable to check passengers in. we're hearing pilots unable to

file flight plans, things of that sort. operationally, there is an issue. also, with passengers trying to get checked in. we also know that passengers may be seeing on the screens their flights are on time, or still set to take off. but i am hearing from an official that even that information that's being displayed on the screen is not accurate. so lots of computer problems. delta is trying to figure out what caused this power out taag. was it a hack. that question has been posed to the airline. they said they are not ready to say at this point what caused the power outage. we could tell you this. we expect even once the systems are back up and running, the problems will linger for days. they'll have to clear the backlog of passengers. back to you, chris. >> the system outage was so big, they couldn't get people on other planes. you're right, it will take a long time. appreciate it. other big news, donald trump

dropping in the polls. and stepping up personal attacks on hillary clinton. he is now using her own words to question whether she is mentally fit to be president. now, he is not all style. he is also going to try to some substance. he is in detroit today to make what he says is a major speech about his economic plan. let's begin our 2016 coverage with cnn's jason carroll. big day for trump to put some meat on the bones. >> reporter: meat on the bone, much needed. we'll see about the specifics and substance when he gives his speech later on this afternoon. it is one of the biggest issues of the campaign, the economy, one of the biggest issues in the country. we're getting some idea of the key points that trump will hit on when he gives his speech here later today. some of the proposals include lowering taxes, reducing the income tax and ending the death tax. all this, in an effort to get his campaign back on track.

>> she is a totally unhinged person. she is unbalanced. all you have to do is watch her. >> reporter: donald trump stepping up his attacks on hillary clinton, suggesting the former secretary of state is mentally unfit to be president. >> the people of this country don't want somebody that is going to short circuit up here. >> reporter: trump using clinton's oh own words against her, she continues to repeat a deep unclaim that the fbi director says she was truthful about a private e-mail server. >> so i may have short circuited, and for that i will try to clarify. >> reporter: clinton's running mate, senator tim kaine, coming to her defense. >> she said other and over, i made a mistake i'm going to fix it and we'll be real transparent, absolutely. >> reporter: trump's ramped up rhetoric, coming ahead of his speech on economic policy in detroit, where he is expected to

unveil his agenda for revitalizing the american economy. all this, as the republican nominee is coming off one of the worst weeks of his campaign. that saw trump repeatedly engage in controversies instead of focusing on clinton. and battling slumping poll numbers, in a number of key battleground states. >> he is going to win parts of ohio, where people are really hurting. but i still think it is difficult if you are dividing to be able to win in ohio. i think it is really, really difficult. >> reporter: and this morning, a new cnn poll of polls shows hillary clinton with a 1ten percentage point. >> you have to see donald trump change positions, he needs to change, and particularly, change the tone and tenor of the debate sufficient to win the election in november. >> reporter: and breanna, in addition to tax reform, trump will also be talking regulatory reform and trade reform.

and this is sort of the sweet spot that trump's critics within his own party want him at. they want him talking policy, less rhetoric, for focus on hillary clinton. clinton, for her part, she will be delivering an economic reform speech here in detroit on thursday. breanna. >> jason carroll, thank you. jeb bush's oldest son is breaking with his father to back donald trump. in a meeting with texas gop activists, he said trump is a bitter pill to swallow, but he said it is time to unite the party. jessica snyder is joining us with more. this is quite a schism in the family. >> a major flip from his father, jeb's stance. george p bush is the texas land commissioner and the fourth generation, but bucking the family's never trump movement, telling texans to set aside the bad blood from the primaries. >> you get back up, and you help

him and make sure we stop hillary clinton. >> it is a remarkable rallying call from the son of jeb bush. jeb, of course, battled in a bruising primary with donald trump and adamantly stated he will not be voting for trump in november. no wonder, trump released barraging against jeb bush, calling him low energy, stiff, weak, infective, pathetic figure, desstraight aperate and total embarrassment to his family. presidents george w. and george h.w. bush, making george p., the first in the family to call for party unity to defeat hillary clinton. >> tough kaucall for donald tru now. he has used this attack with great success, but it seems it may be working against him. a recent slip in the polls, tied

to what has been coming out of his mouth. let's discuss with former republican congressman from georgia, jack kingston. good to have you with us. appreciate it. >> good to be with you. >> what did you make out of the numbers out of your home state that had trump down four, and for the audience's sake, that is a state that usually goes red? >> well, i tell you, i've run statewide, i've seen these polls before. i've seen the same polling company saying jason carter with would be our governor, and typically, it skews to the democrats. if hillary clinton wants to spend money in georgia, i would love her to. that would mean that she wouldn't have the noun spend in florida and ohio and pennsylvania. i would say come on down. but georgia is going to support trump, because we do not want a third term of a barack obama. if you look at right now, what we have in terms of unemployment

and 43 million people on food stamps and household income, falling from 57,000 in the year 2000 to 53,000 today, people want change. they want a strong economy and we're not getting it under barack obama. hillary clinton has embraced all of the current policies. so georgians and the rest of the country want change, and what we're going to hear from donald trump today is a discussion on the economy. >> right. >> and that's what frankly, we need to be talking about. >> absolutely. we were very excited to hear he is going to give a policy speech. a nice break from the constant verbal attacks. but you know, you are geoing to hear, they're going to say this guy is not one of us. his fiscal plans, up to this point, haven't been what we want out of government. he is seen as more middle of the road, even too much to the left. what do you tell them going into

this speech today? >> we need to change the current system. we need something like uber, you know. uber totally changed transportation, frankly, for the better. i think we need that in washington, d.c., and some of the conservative critics of donald trump really are protecting the status quo. and he is not a guy who is controlled by the usual special interest suspects. i think the idea that he'll go in and shake things around has gotten people on the left and right a little bit nervous, but i believe that's what the middle class want. 67% of the people polled say they don't like the track that america is on. he is speaking to them and taking responsibility and says i'm going to be a jobs president. i'm going to reduce regulations on small businesses. i'm going to cut their taxes -- >> but jack, the anti-xiety is

real. that anxiety is also real about trump, in the recent poll of polls, you have 70% of the respondents saying i am somewhat or very anxious about the idea of a trump presidency. how do you deal with that? >> well, as you know, it was not a good week for us last week. but he is going to be talking about the economy. he'll be talking about foreign policy. if you take a step back, here is hillary clinton, in a new word now, for lying is short circuit. can you imagine going in and telling the people -- oh, i'm sorry, i was short circuited in my brain last week. you know, when you think about hillary clinton and her foreign policy, what has been her crowning achievement? she says it is the nuclear deal with iran. we saw the $400 million ransom, non-ransom payment last week. something, if the administration is so proud about, they should put it on primetime and not do it in the dark of the night and not use cash, which is not what

the deal called for anyhow. but what has hillary clinton established in the private sector, or in foreign policy. is she going to brag about the birth of isis. is she going to talk about the stability in iraq or afghanistan. or libya. she has nothing to brag about in foreign policy. >> you can say -- >> she has been a frequent flyer. >> you can say, jack, with complete confidence, that you believe donald trump has the temperament to deal on the world sta stage and not get caught up with attacking somebody he doesn't like in every other instance we've seen in this campaign? >> absolutely. he has been enormously successful in the private sector by assembling the right people to run his different enterprises and businesses. he has pulled in the right accountants, right lawyers, right advisors, business agents. that's what a leader does. >> right. but why did you have the week you had that you point out, last week? he has got great people around

him now, right. people who have helped him win an unlikely victory primary, but it still comes down to him at the end of the day, and especially what comes out of his mouth? >> you know, chris, my dad is from brooklyn. my mother is from bronxville. i think a lot of where donald trump has been coming from is sort of a new york toughness, kind of has that swagger, where he has been in a tough city doing a tough job and achieving a lot. i think part of his style has been you attack me, i'm going to attack you back. when you're in the private sector you can do it better than you can in the public sector. and this a private citizen who has never held an elected office. he is transitioning in politics, there a double standard. people are allowed to attack you and you cannot engage in it. today, what we're seeing, as he talks about the economy, this is where we need to drill down and keep talking about over and over again, because we do not need a third term of obama-nomics.

>> jack kingston, it will be great for the best ideas of the american people win the election. thank you for making the case on "new day." always appreciate it and always welcome. >> thanks. all right, so ahead, we're going to hear more from you, the people who matter. specifically, republican and independent voters. this is obviously the key group for trump. how do they feel about what they're going to hear today and the state of the race. breanna. >> a new poll shows hillary clinton beating donald trump by double digits, but will the number stick as her rival hammers her on trust issues. david axelrod, joining us next to weigh in. she spent summer binge-watching. soon, she'll be binge-studying. now she writes mostly in emoji. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade.

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cnn's polls after both parties conventions, showing hillary clinton beating donald trump by ten points. but can she hold on to this double digit lead. here to discuss, we have cnn political commentator and former senior advisor to president obama. david axelrod. david, we look here, if we look

at the poll polls, two-way, just hillary clinton and donald trump, there is still a ten point spread. 49, 39 donald trump, you add in the third party candidates, and they go down a little, but still a ten point spread, even with johnson and stein in. how much stock do you put in there being a ten point gap between these two candidates right now and should we read a lot into that right now or not? >> well, it is among the larger gaps post convention gaps that i've ever seen. so or that i've seen from a very long time in a closely divided country. so you have to take it seriously. but the conventions were early. there are 90-some odd days left. the thing you have to look at is underlying tendencies or underlying -- donald trump has huge gaps on temperament, on

preparedness. people haven't yet concluded that he is ready to do the job. and he has to solve that problem if he is going to be competitive in this race. if he doesn't solve that problem, and i think it will be hard to do, then he can't win. >> you got this confirmation of the condition that set the stage for trump's saying we're on the wrong track. we just got this number from the polls that the idea of trump being the change agent makes 70% of the respondents somewhat or very anxious. so how do you play that out? >> well, again, it speaks to the point i was making before. these last two weeks have been disastrous for him because of these kind of bizarre he escapa. there were a series of ten miscues in a short period of type, right after the democratic

convention in which speaker after speaker said he didn't have the temperament to be president, so it was like a perfect storm for him. i think every republican leader is probably really, really glad that he is making a policy speech today, and hope -- and in their hope, reading it off of a teleprompter, without a lot of ad-libs. they would like to see a steady diet of that for a while, to get away from the kind of antics na they saw in the last couple of weeks. >> david, i want to see what you make of hillary clinton recently addressing her e-mail situation, especially while really, she -- i think her campaign and aides probably would have wanted her to make no headlines at all, but a week ago, and this is still percolating, she said this to chris wallace. >> director comey said that my answers were truthful and what i've said is consistent with what i have told the american people. that there were decisions

discussed and made to classified retroactively certain of the e-mails. >> now, comey said there was no basis to believe she was lying to the fbi, but he was asked specifically about different claims that she had made in public to the american people, and he disputed them. i know there is disagreement with the clinton campaign, but she has since come out and said that she short circuited what he said. it has been proven she did more than that. what do you make of her saying these things and getting herself into trouble and stealing some of the bad spotlight away from donald trump? >> yeah it is kind of bewilledering. that's why i say 90 days, things can happen. it is very -- it is very confusing as to why she can't simply say what seems obvious, which is i did not knowingly transmit any classified information. i think that's what comey concluded. that she did transmit classified

information, but she, you know, they certainly can't prove that she did it knowingly. i'm sure she told them that she didn't. and that seems like the obvious explanation. why she can't get there, i don't know. but here is the thing, brianna. you know the joke about the two guys who find the -- encounter a bear in the woods and the one guy drops his knapsack and says you're crazy, you can't out run the bear. all i have to do is out run you. that's sort of the situation, that's sort of the situation that hillary clinton is in. donald trump has trust numbers, as worst than hers, in this "washington post" poll. when they're asked who is more trustworthy, she wins by nine points. and so in a sense, the trust issue has been neutralized, because both candidates suffer from it. and so that's why she can have a large lead, despite the fact that trust is an issue, because if people don't feel donald trump has the temmerment, the experience, the bearing to be president of the united states,

they're going to set aside that issue. they may do it grudgingly, but set it aside. >> that's why this is such a big week, actix, what is their idea make their lives better with the economics and job basis of this country. how big a week is this? >> i think it is a big week. and trump, for trump, it is really interesting. his economic plan is one that will appeal to some of the conservatives in the republican party. it is -- he has been losing among college educated whites, which is a huge turn around from four years ago, with mitt romney. he hopes that will appeal to them. he is leading with the abolition with child care, you can see the strategy behind what he is doing. you had betsy mccoy on and she

said the tax foundation said his tax plan would create $12 trillion drag on the debt, that it would add $12 trillion to the debt. moddy's analytics said his overall economic plan would create 3.5 million lost jobs and create a recession. so he'll get blow back on the plan, because apparently he is not going to offer any way to pay for it. and so this will be an interesting back and forth. >> david axelrod, thank you so much, sir. another big issue that has come up in the election, came out of nowhere. the zika virus, you know about what it is. a big concern about the olympics, but marco rubio has now made it into a political issue. he says that if a woman, who is pregnant, is battling the zika virus, that woman should not be allowed to have an abortion. where is he coming from on this. there is a debate here and we'll have it for you, next.

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zika virus should not be allowed to have an abortion. he said when you present it in the context of zika or any prenatal condition. it is a difficult and hard question. i'm going to err on the side of life. zika can cause microcephaly and other birth defects. the effects are still fairly unknown. let's talk with our cnn political commentators about the state of this debate. it is obviously touching on reproductive rights. we have maria cardona and scottie nell hughes, political editor and trump supporter. good to have you both with us this morning. maria, why does this raise eyebrows, especially come from rubio, he is decidedly pro-life. why would this change his position? >> well, this actually underscores why the republican party has such an issue in terms of support from women, and why they suffer from such a huge women's gap.

it is because people like marco rubio really reflect how out of touch and misguided the republican party is, when it comes to issue of women's health. this is an incredibly debilitating disease that has hit hard, not just latin american countries, but now it is coming into the united states through puerto rico, through florida, and the bill put forward by the white house is the one that would be best suited to make sure that this money is going to exactly the people that are being affected by it so much. low income communities, women who can't afford health care. and what republicans did was they poisoned the bill with efforts to try to cutback funding for those clinics, and to cutback funding on obama care. so they really weren't interested in fixing this issue. they were interested in playing politics, and marco rubio underscoresy. >> scottie? >> well, to sit here and say the president of the white house put forward a clean bill is absolutely wrong.

both the republicans and democrats are wrong in this situation. maria is right. this a devastating disease and we are a seeing the numbers in the united states grow. i think we're up to about 422 cases in florida alone. and but this is nothing new. we don't have the research. we don't know what zika is going to do. senator rubio is doing the correct thing. one out of 33 babies in the united states is born with a birth defect. why are we going to travel down the road to sit there and selectively say listen, just because you're going to be born with a disability, something that the democrats a few weeks ago at the dnc celebrated how much they were for disabilities and people that have different issues that are -- that keep them limited and sitting there and promoting people with disabilities, yet we're going to ex terminate a life because you're possibly going to be born with it. that's very hypocritical of the democratic party, but i also want to put shame on the republicans. shame on both of you right now for using it for political gain. pass a clean bill right now that will research the vaccines or any other treatment that we

might have for these children. abortion is definitely not the answer for the way to sit there and cure this disease. >> maria. >> well, let's put this into i think the view of what most american women believe. and that is that not government, certainly not wroorepublican, n democrats should be involved in health care decisions that will affect their bodies, their family, and it should be up to the women and their doctors and families to make those decisions. so democrats trust women in this country to make the right decisions for themselves. it is the reason why roe v. wade is still the law of the land, thankfully, and it is why republicans will continue to suffer from a lack of support of women in this country, especially college educated women. and we heard from david axelrod earlier. donald trump is suffering from a lack of support from college educated voters overall, and mitt romney won college educated

voi voters by 14 point and still lost the election. in my mind, you should continue this focus, because it will continue to underscore for women why the republican party should not be trusted. >> if the democrats were -- >> with the laws of this land. >> go ahead, scottie. >> if the democrats were so big in keeping the government out of our bodies, then why did they pass obama care. the number one thing that have affected their health care. people lost their doctors, coverage went up, selective drugs people can't afford. talk about government intervention, it is called -- no, it is called obama care. that -- >> 20 million people have health care coverage that didn't have it before, scottie. and that's why -- >> one at a time. >> the majority of people have either lost insurance that had it or cannot afford it any more as they've seen rates. we see obama care exchanges going up. it is about abortion versus the

right to life. if you believe the baby is born at conception, then zika is not a reason to sit there and terminate. why would you sit there and say a person with disabilities, because they're going to be born with -- >> do you support that position? do you believe there is absolutely no circumstances in which a mother should be able to terminate a pregnancy, no matter what it is doing to her own life or the life of a fetus? let me tell you, i am extremely pro-life. as a mother myself, i must say that my opinion in one area has changed, chris. it has been hard. the life of a mother, i think we have to take into consideration what's best for the family. that's in the case of the mother only. everything else, it is a life right now. we need to make sure we celebrate. it is a miracle from god and they deserve a chance to live. >> you know what, marco rubio actually believes there is no exception in these circumstances. not even for rape, not even for insis incest, that reflects the majority of the views of the

republican party. democrats trust women to make these decisions along with their health care providers to make sure they are the best for their families. by the way, obama care has given 20 million people coverage that they didn't have before. the only thing -- >> republicans want to -- >> go to the emergency room, and have health insurance. >> yeah, and that cost -- that cost will go up. >> the middle class -- >> let's leave it there before we spiral into obama care. would he were doing well on this discreet issue and it does branch into others. that's what this election is about in part. maria, scottie, i cried like a baby on the first day of school with each of the kids. i hope you do the same. >> i'm fighting back tears and have the water proof mascara right now. >> the right kind of tears. congratulations. thank you, ladies. >> thanks, chris. both sides have endured major controversies, but right now, hillary clinton's

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look at your screen. got a change in the race. hillary clinton, edging out donald trump when it comes to honesty and trustworthiness in a new national poll. this has been the big stick that donald trump has been using against clinton, whether or not you can trust her. how does this play? where are the democrats you say. the point is to see how trump is doing among those who are likely to support him, right. so that's why we're here. pax, didn't get to you last time. this is what we hear from trump and his supporters all the time. listen, i don't like what he says, i don't leak a lot of his style problems, to be polite. but we need a change, i don't want another four years of obama. is that still where you are, even though this happened in the last couple of weeks? >> absolutely. these polls that we're looking at now, i personally don't put a huge amount of emphasis on them. last week, reuters had a wide

gap between clinton and trump. this week, it is within 3%. this the reuters poll. when we saw the primary process, we were looking at a very narrow, you know, we were looking at a very narrow ideology. kind of a diet coke versus diet pepsi, very nuance argument. what we're looking at now is different ideologies that are slowly coming together on a national election. what is really going to be more indicative is when they start debating one another. after the first debate, when you actually get to see hillary clinton and donald trump side by side, and seeing their, you know, because right now they're talking at each other about what the other person represents. when you see them side by side, presenting two debate moderators their opinions on specific issues, i think that is we're going to start seeing, you know, much more indicative outcome. >> nick, you were leaning donald trump.

you are now leaning sort of back towards the middle now. do you trust him? >> in a sernnse, some of his comments he says are a little out of line, but some of it is played because of the media. my main issue is, you know, i am an independent. i think both of these candidates are untrustworthy and both of them are not focusing on an entirely electorate and that is the millennials. i am a millennial, college graduate. and no one is talking to us. the only candidate that came close to it was bernie sanders. there is a lot of issues going on and my generation, there is two things that we're synonymous with. debt and unemployment. no one is talking about us. we're at an economic crisis coming up soon with all of these college kids with overwhelming amount of debt. most of these kids come out and $40,000, how do you expect those kids to grow up and get a house, start a family, contribute to the economy. they can't.

>> look, the issues are real. the problems are real. you know why they don't talk to you more? you don't vote. you don't give to the lobbying firms. you're not represented in the demographics the way they're used to seeing it. that all changes it on one day. we saw it in the election in 1992 with bill clinton. he spoke, went on mtv, played the saxophone. all of a sudden, young people came out and voted that we hadn't seen. all of a sudden, people started talking about their issues. there a way around it, you just have to represent at the polls. sarah, you're coming at it from another side. you are a republican and you're thinking i may not be a toibl go with him because of what is going out of his mouth. not just for demography, but you can't take what he is saying any more. why? >> both candidates have truth problems, and -- >> we've never seen anything like it in a race, by the way. we've never seen negative numbers as high among the two nominees in this election. >> i find it interesting we're

focusing on the trust issue right now. i would say in the last two weeks, there hasn't -- there haven't been an inordinate amount of lies on the trump side. but there have been more issues where he attacking people who the rest of america like, or images that they like. so so for example, john mccain, or the family with the fallen son. paul ryan, you know. republicans like these people. so i think that's behind some of his issues. and for me, when i'm tilting toward the other side, or i am, i have tilted toward the other side, it comes down to, you know, trump still promulgates this atmosphere of animosity toward people. and whether it's people who are against him, or ideologies that he is standing up against, you know, that is pervasive. he hasn't come out once and said you know what, this media is

exaggerating, i'm really not against the whole mexican race. i'm not against the whole nation of islam, you know. he is not making big statements against these kind of protesters who are making a bad name for americans. if he did that, i think that would go a long way for him. >> on temperament, there are many people, and just quickly because we're running out of time, there are many people who don't think he has the temperament and hillary clinton does. i know you support him, but he has to make strides there. what does he need to do. >> i feel that he definitely needs to stop fighting with the people on his team. he should get his -- set a meeting with john kasich or susana martinez and apologize. he is getting coverage any way. make it positive coverage. it is all about the quality of the coverage now, so. >> that's great. thank you, panel, so much. we really appreciate it. you know, turning to the olympics now, men's gymnastics team is aiming for gold in rio today. what is it like for the parents of olympians.

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the u.s. men's gymnastics team will be fighting for its first olympic team medal since 2008 this afternoon. after placing second to china in the qualifying rounds over the weekend, things are looking pretty good. we have donnell leyva in the london games, remember those

four years ago, he got the bronze, he'll be competing in three of the six events. leyva was originally named as an alternate before being tapped to fill in when his teammate was injured last month. we have maria gonzalez joining us from rio. you're the perfect guest. not only are you a loving mom, but you yourself was a top gymnast. how big a deal was it to your son to get picked to be on this team again last second? >> that was amazing. i was so happy and excited. and i think this team, with him, can be stronger. that's my opinion as a mom. >> how do you think the team looks to you? as a gymnast and mom who grew up, you know, watching her son compete, do you think they have what it takes? >> my opinion, with this team is they're going to be in the top. because this team are so strong,

technical wise, and they are so together, like they are close. they know each other since many years ago and they are fighter. this group like to show off and that's gymnastics. i think they're going to be in the top, for sure. >> your son is 24 years old, because you're only 31. be that as it may, what it like for him as a leadership role on the team? >> i see he is one of the leaders, even though he, like you said before, he was in the position as alternate. four years, he was in the top in the world championships, and i think for the team, he is super good. and for me, he is one of the leaders there. >> of course, he is.

>> that's my opinion. >> let's get to what matters most as a mom. i am no gymnast, and i can barely watch. i'm so nervous all the time about whether or not they're going to be able to stick the landing. will they be able to make it. it looks so hard. how do you watch your son doing these things that you know are so difficult? how do you keep that fear in check? >> i don't know if you know, i am a coach, so i know more or less the techniques for men's a different than i know more or less the technique. so i am ready to see what he is going to do before. but it is so different being a mom. i get so nervous, and it is a se sentimental thing. i get nervous and crazy.

>> what is it like for the family being down there? you're coach yourself. your husband is your son's coach. what is it like? >> i like a lot. it was not that easy, because you know, you are in the gym together and then you pass through to your house, but what's nice, the whole years and i think work pretty good. >> when those two argue with each other, whose side do you take, the husband or son? >> really, in the beginning, i was a mama, a mom protective. so i side with the little one. but with years, i was on both sides. so i tried to be in the middle, explaining and giving the reason to each other, depending, which one has it. so and we're pretty good too.

>> a gold medal approach. good balance. i wish you the best to have an experience down there with the family. and go usa. thank you for joining us. good luck to your son. >> thank you. thank you. thank you very much. >> imagine that, your mother is your coach, your mother is a coach. this is your big moment on the olympics stage. that's good stuff, but we've got more, coming up next. she spent summer binge-watching.

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where can we drop the shoes off this year. >> how willing, you ask? i'll tell you. 600 pairs of shoe. this kid has been doing this since he was eight. >> he has tapped into something, though. you're happier when you do things for other people. >> right. the best gift is giving. >> let's give it now, over to carol costello. it's time for "newsroom." carol. >> that is so generous of you guys. thank you. that's ridiculous. you guys have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," sharper attacks. >> she is is a totally unhinged person. she is unbalanced. she took the short circuit in the brain. >> today, a chance to sharpen his message. donald trump laying out his plan to fix the