tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 15, 2016 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT
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good evening. at the end of a big day in presidential politics, especially for donald trump, he's been having a hard time in the polls and with many republicans, some of whom are losing patience with the way he's running his campaign. they want him to stay on message unlike the way things happened last week after he laid out his economic plan. this afternoon he unveiled his plan for fighting isis including tougher scrutiny for immigrants with an eye towards stopping islamic extremism at the border. >> the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today. i call it extreme vetting. i call it extreme, extreme
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vetting. our country has enough problems. we don't need more, and these are problems like we've never had before. >> cnn's sara murray was in youngstown, ohio and joins us from there. donald trump calls this extreme vetting. did he offer a lot of details about what exactly that means? >> reporter: he gave us a sense of sort of what he's trying to accomplish. he's trying to weed out potential immigrants who hold extremist beliefs, perhaps people who are anti-semitic, anti-christian, anti-gay. what he didn't explain was how he would accomplish something like this. obviously this would be a big shift in terms of our immigration policy and in terms of the kind of information we collect on people to impose something like an ideology test. that's going to be one of the big questions for donald trump going forward, is if this is what you are aiming to accomplish, how would you do something like that in practice. >> as we mentioned, trump was on message as they say. was this really looked at as critical that he do that, with some of the new battleground state polls that have not been showing good results for him
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most recently, this race could actually be getting out of hand? >> reporter: i think it is absolutely critical. i talked to a number of political operatives today in different battleground states across the country and there's a sense when you talk to them that this race could be slipping away. they feel like donald trump really only has a couple of weeks to turn around his fortunes and that does mean staying on message. it doesn't necessarily mean, they say, delivering a speech from a teleprompter every day but it does mean you can't be jumping from one controversy to the next day after day and that's essentially what we saw last week. he gave one policy speech and he spent the rest of the week jumping from one incident to the next and trying to explain what he meant. a number of political operatives including those in trump's own campaign is hoping this week will not be a repeat of last. >> joining us now, trump adviser and former director of the defense intelligence agency, lieutenant general michael flynn. thanks very much for being with us. let's talk about today's speech. donald trump said quote, those
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who support bigotry or hatred will not be admitted for immigration into our country, saying he would test to see if an immigrant had what he called a tolerant view of things like women's rights, gay rights, religion. can you offer additional clarity on exactly how that would be implemented? a lot of people raised questions about it. >> i think part of what he talked about today was essentially to make sure he had a discussion with the department of justice, department of homeland security, and also the department of state in coming up with a detailed means to vet some of these individuals who are coming into our country who, you know, who honestly are looking to impose sharia law. anderson, we have a couple of states in this country right now that are dealing with at the state and local level, dealing with the imposition of sharia law right now. this is a very serious issue. i think that was really the points donald trump was trying to make today. >> where do you see people seriously trying to impose sharia law in the united states?
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>> florida and texas are two states. you can go look at it. there's something called america laws for america courts act that is in play right now. these are things that are happening and i think people need to pay very close attention to it, and these are some of the issues that our country is dealing with with the -- some of the individuals who have come into our country over time and frankly, some of those that espouse the radical islamic views. >> donald trump wasn't just talking about radical islamic views. he was talk aboing about gay ri, women, religious rights. >> i don't think he was talking about -- he's actually standing up for something that i believe he needs to stand up for, which is all creeds, all colors, all races, all beliefs against this ideology which condemns women, condemns gays, condemns, i mean, i -- >> there's a lot of folks in america who condemn gays. that's part of their right as
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americans. >> i think what donald trump has done is stand up for all people. >> okay. >> at this point in time. i think it was a terrific speech today. very practical, very doable and my assessment is the kind of thing we need to really focus on which is the ideology that underpins the radical component within islam. it has to be taken very seriously because these guys have declared war on us and it's something that we are going to be dealing with for a long time. >> you have an extraordinary history in iraq, you know iraq better than just about anybody else or certainly as anybody else who is at your level of the military serving there so hon honorab honorably. i want to ask about what donald trump has proposed. he basically said one of the big things that led to isis was their control of oil. he all along, he reiterated it today, was saying to the victor should go the spoils or in the olden days that's what they said. he said we should take iraq's
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oil. we should have the oil. early on in an interview with me, he said send in u.s. troops, surround iraq oil fields, surround the oil fields, get u.s. companies in to take the oil. does that make sense to you as somebody who served in iraq? is that actually something to take a sovereign nation's oil? >> well, we clearly made a big mistake departing iraq in 2011. i don't think your listeners understand but we are looking at about, i'm not sure of the exact numbers, but in some recent assessments this year, 2016, they were making around $1.5 million a difficuay from oil on black market, this is isis now. >> he's talking about taking iraq's oil and using that money to give to wounded warriors which is obviously a very worthy cause, but is that really something the united states can do? iraq is an ally of the united states, as problematic as it is. can you actually go in and take their oil? >> i think one of the things we have to look at, we have to look at all the means we can bring to
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bear in iraq. i think one of the things we have to do is we have to cut off their financial capabilities that they are using right now and they have been using. that continues to be these oil fields that are in the contested areas in iraq and frankly even in syria, too. the specifics of how we do that, those are things that are left to really the true professionals to be able to assist us in thinking through how we might do that but we have to cut off the financial capabilities of this very difficult enemy. >> nobody argues on that front, on any side of the aisle, but again, as somebody who served there, you know this better than anybody, if you take a sovereign nation's oil which is an ally of this country, don't you inflame just about everybody in iraq who is already not inflamed against the u.s.? >> i mean, i think how we do this, anderson, how it's actually executed on the ground at this stage, it's one of these things where there's sort of the devil in the details. >> you're not proposing taking the oil?
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>> well, i think what we're proposing is shutting off the supply that these guys have of oil to be able to finance the islamic state and not just in syria and iraq, but some of this money is going into the global problems we are facing around the world. so we have to stop this and one of the principal ways they are financing their fight right now is the oil in iraq and syria. >> you referenced the reckless way the u.s. pulled out of iraq. trump said that did, reckless is an exact quote from what he said today. he said we should never have made such a sudden withdrawal and the failure to follow the agreement that was initially negotiated under the bush administration but the obama administration did not renegotiate it. that's a completely valid viewpoint held by many people. but donald trump himself had initially in the past indicated he was not only for the invasion in a brief interview with howard
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stern but said in multiple interviews, 2006, 2007, 2008, the u.s. should withdraw even though it would lead to all out civil war. he said declare victory and leave. isn't it hypocritical for him now to be claiming he would have acted differently? >> anderson, good question. i think in donald trump's speech today, he also talked about the strategically poor decision of going into iraq in the first place. he wasn't kind to the previous administration either. i think that the decision to go -- to depart after we had achieved victory in the 2009 to 2011 time frame was also recognized as a poor decision and it still is recognized as a poor decision. >> but isn't it the mark of a leader, somebody who owns up to their poor decisions and donald trump back then was saying you know, we should just get out, who cares if it goes to civil war, some strong man's going to take over, somebody will be worse, we should get out,
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declare victory and get out. he said it in interviews in 2006, 2007 and 2008. for him to be saying now we shouldn't have gotten out so recklessly, back then he was calling for that as well even though he wasn't in the world of politics. >> you have to look at where he was that point in time. again, the decision to leave in 2011 led to sort of al qaeda in iraq 2.0 which is now the islamic state. let's face it, all of the advisers at that time were telling the president of the united states, president obama, this is not a smart move, had we left a small contingent, it was roughly about 10,000 that were supposed to stay in there. what decisions we have been making in this fight against the islamic state and frankly, the brave thing that really came out of today's speech was to clearly define what it is and who it is we are facing which is this notion of radical islamism. it's so important to clearly define the enemy that you are up against. then you can figure out exactly what your strategy is to go
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after them. just like we have been talking about with going after communism or going after naziism in the last century, we are now facing radical islamism and we have to do more to take this enemy on. >> finally, one of the things donald trump has said is that he knows more about isis than the generals do. you were one of those generals. does he know more about isis than you? >> again, look at the context and look at the time frame, anderson. i think at this point in time, there's been a lot of lessons we have learned and a lot of learning as we have gone through this political process here. i think at this stage, what i know, what i believe, what i have in the conversations i have had, not just with donald trump and myself but with others, too, is understanding just how difficult and how deadly this enemy is, how barbaric they are. i think all the points that were brought out in today's speech are very valid points, very practical, and it was very thoughtful as to how he believes
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we need to approach this problem. there's many people that agree with him. >> general flynn, i really appreciate your time. the work you did with general mcchrystal was incredible. at some point i would love to talk about it. >> thanks very much for having me on. a real honor. >> more on this with our panel after the break. whether it's the content of the speech, how it was presented or what donald trump faces in the countdown to election day. lar larry, joe biden's message to voters in scranton, p.a. ♪ the bud light party is going to addresses the issues that matter we are going to bring america together, hard. it's a party for everyone... men sfx: crowd cheers women sfx: crowd cheers people of all genders but, you know, gender identity it's really a spectrum and we don't need these labels. beer should have labels, not people. kablam! steel mill workers: yeah! we don't care we'll sell you beer. we'll sell you a beer any day of the week. steel mill workers: yeah! ♪ sfx: cheering
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almost as long as donald trump has been campaigning a debate has been raging. on one side the on message people who want him to pick a assist of issues and stick with them. on the other side, the let trump be trump people. today he certainly stayed on message. >> hillary clinton lacks the judgment, as said by bernie sanders, stability and temperament and the moral character to lead our nation. importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face. >> donald trump on message this afternoon in the swing state of ohio. back with the panel, including
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cory let trump by trump lewandowski. so is this, was this good for donald trump today? was this a good development for the trump campaign? >> this is. this is an on message development for trump. this will continue to help unite the republican party behind him for any of those outliers that are there. my recommendation would be a speech like this is probably better given on a wednesday or thursday so the sunday shows will cover this because what happened last week was he had the detailed policy speech on monday and by tuesday and wednesday and thursday, no one else was talking about it. i think what you will find is donald trump giving these detailed policy speeches off of teleprompters with very specific information and then having the sunday shows talking about those later in the week. >> as you well know, the problem has been or the benefit has been depending i guess on how you see him impromptu speaking is he will do one of these speeches, then he will give just an off the cuff speech which a lot of his supporters love but which has often gotten him into days of explaining what he meant.
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>> if you saw him saturday night in connecticut, he gave an amazing speech. there were 5,000 or 7,000 people packed into a small university there to listen to him. the speech was fantastic. it didn't get a lot of coverage because there was nothing there to quote, report on. it was the typical speech where he talks about what he wants to do for the country, what he wants to lay out and most presidential candidates, i know you will believe this, don't get all their speeches covered on a 24 hour cycle. you will find donald trump giving policy, detailed policy speeches like this and he will also be doing hopefully one big rally speech a day that maybe won't have as much coverage because they will be -- >> but if the national press is engaged in a constant dialogue which is basically what's happening about whether a candidate can stay on message, whether the candidate will stay reading a teleprompter, which i find bizarre because reading is a criteria for third grade, not president of the united states, whether that's the conversation, can a candidate keep it in check, not lose their temper, et cetera, et cetera, if that's the conversation we're having, you're kind of losing.
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right? because if you're having to constantly pivot and have people going out confirming you will stay on message and you won't go off message, lose it, whatever, like you did all the weeks before, that is not a good place nonetheless going into fall. that's the situation donald trump's in. we have had this conversation numerous times on this show. >> the difference is donald trump talks to the media which hillary clinton still refuses to do. she hasn't held a press conference in almost 300 days now. today you saw her side-step the podium so she didn't have to take questions after vice president biden introduced her today. so the media was about to ask questions. when is she going to do what donald trump does which is make herself available, the last time hillary clinton did an interview she did it with chris wallace. she was inaccurate to the american people and spent the week trying to recover from that. >> "the washington post" gave her four pinocchios for her comments about e-mails and the fbi. >> i think the e-mail story is old. i was in the hair shop earlier today and this woman said i just
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don't understand why we're talking about that. >> to cory's point, she is very tightly controlled. obviously all presidential candidates are. but donald trump is traditionally more available. these days he's very critical of cnn and others, focusing more on fox. >> those of us who are strategists say he's too accessible. he gets himself in trouble on air and on twitter. to the point, i don't like the fact hillary clinton hasn't availed herself to the media. i'm not going to lie and say i think that's a good thing. what i also won't say is that it somehow makes donald trump a better candidate or more sophisticated candidate because of how accessible and available he is. he needs to be more tightly controlled. congratulations on the fact he read a teleprompter today. but he's going to be tweeting something crazy later tonight. >> it's not the easiest skill. >> no shade. no shade. >> i'm not saying it's a very advanced skill to have or really even a skill. >> if your prompter went out you wouldn't be totally off message.
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you would know what we are talking about. >> don't turn red, anderson. >> what do you make of donald trump saying, he said it before, hillary clinton doesn't have the mental or physical stamina i think is the term he used. what do you think that's about? >> you could see clear examples where she hasn't had the mental stamina. >> talk about critical. >> to her point, that's what people have been pointing out. why is he saying physical? >> remember when the administration tried to make this case they were so on point with the osama bin laden killing, they were all photographed in the room? fast forward a year or two when you have decisions to go into libya which barack obama said was the worst mistake of his presidency, she was in the captain's chair. focus to benghazi and you see her unable to cope with the mental strain of making high level decisions in a responsible time frame. i think that plays into exactly what donald trump is talking about. i think he can back it up with those facts. the american people can see that. >> did you watch the same benghazi hearings as i did? >> the ones where she perjured herself. >> she was calm, cool,
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collected, answered the questions, was not flustered, did not answer them dishonestly at all. wait, wait, wait. >> what's wrong with -- the question where she lied or the question where she told the truth? >> the point here you are avoiding is that donald trump is throwing out these erroneous attacks on her physical health and you are raising benghazi. she stood up in an endless -- >> every layer of the onion you peel back is another lie. >> what health problems does donald trump believe hillary has? >> i have no idea. >> then don't say that. >> i didn't say that. >> but in terms, talking about the physical stuff, they both had physicals. donald trump's doctor who is in love with adjectives as donald trump is, gave him a glowing report and hillary clinton, who is two years younger than donald trump, has also had apparently a fine physical report.
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why do you think this -- >> i wish he would get off these things, honestly. he's got a great narrative going back to my earlier point. when two-thirds of the american people think we're on the wrong track, he's saying she's going to continue the eight years of the obama administration, last three quarters we have had collectively about 1% growth rate. people are stuck with real incomes, they are making as much now as they did in 1996 in real terms. you have a 51% low in terms of home ownership rate. >> you are saying he has a good message. >> he has a great message. he needs to couple it with solution. >> interesting, though, because i think he raises a really good point. a lot of people believe, want this to be a change election. today, donald trump was at least giving some ideas, you could say this idea of extreme vetting is no different than what's being already done or it's un-american. but to the congressman's point, it is at least on message as something new, something different. at least in his opinion.
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>> sure, but again, we will see how long it stays that way. one of the most interesting things about this campaign is usually it's kind of like a ping-pong game. it goes back and forth. one will take advantage of the other's missteps and vice versa. we haven't seen that. seems like a lot of things have been zipping by donald trump in terms of hillary clinton wasn't telling the truth. >> he didn't make the most of that. >> you haven't seen ads in battleground states that i usually see during a campaign. you see it with hillary clinton. you haven't seen it with donald trump yet. that's something we have been watching closely to see if he can return fire the way they have. >> we have to take a break. more with the panel ahead. want to talk about hillary clinton's campaign event with vice president joe biden in pennsylvania today where biden was extraordinarily subtle in his remarks about donald trump or not. he said trump would have loved stalin. i had that dream again --
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that i was on the icelandic game show. and everyone knows me for discounts, like safe driver and paperless billing. but nobody knows the box behind the discounts. oh, it's like my father always told me -- "put that down. that's expensive." of course i save people an average of nearly $600, but who's gonna save me? [ voice breaking ] and that's when i realized... i'm allergic to wasabi. well, i feel better. it's been five minutes. talk about progress. [ chuckles ] okay.
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unqualified, clueless, dangerous. our senior washington correspondent joe johns reports. >> reporter: if it's joe biden and pennsylvania, it's blue collar. >> hillary understands the hopes and aspirations of the people in claymont, in scranton and every scranton and claymont in the united states of america. >> reporter: the vice president also taking the opportunity to hammer away at gop presidential nominee donald trump. >> this guy doesn't care about the middle class. and i don't even blame him in a sense because he doesn't understand it. he doesn't have a clue. no, he really -- i mean, he really doesn't. >> reporter: saying trump is the most unprepared nominee ever for the job of president. >> i have worked with eight presidents of the united states. i have served with hundreds of senators, dozens of secretaries of state and secretaries of defense of both parties and i can say without hesitation, my word as a biden, no major party nominee in the history of the
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united states of america has -- now, don't cheer, just listen -- has known less or been less prepared to deal with our national security than donald trump. >> reporter: and repeating a line of attack clinton's campaign has focused on for weeks. trump cannot be trusted with the nuclear codes. >> he is not qualified to know the code. he can't be trusted. >> reporter: in a raw moment, the vice president even hitting trump for comments the republican made about dictators like former iraq leader saddam hussein, suggesting the republican would even admire the former russian ruler responsible for murdering millions. >> he would have loved stalin. >> reporter: biden joined clinton in an appeal to white working class voters of pennsylvania, a demographic clinton has been struggling with. >> i always remember, i am the granddaughter of a factory
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worker and the daughter of a small business owner and i am so proud of it. >> joe johns joins us. any mention today of the fbi interview notes that congress will be receiving from hillary clinton's e-mail probe? >> reporter: no mention of that, as far as we know. quite frankly, the campaign tells us they prefer to stay on offense right now, going with things they have done in the past, especially because they are looking at polls. for the most part, they tell us they like what they see, at least so far. but there was a clear indication today they wanted to stay on national security and foreign policy and they put out a web ad questioning once again whether donald trump ought to be entrusted with the nuclear codes. >> joe johns, thanks very much. back with the panel. how effective do you think joe biden is for hillary clinton? that's one of the things supporters of clinton have been saying all along, she has a deep bench, michelle obama, president obama, joe biden, elizabeth warren and others. >> joe biden is hillary
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clinton's not so secret middle class weapon. think about the convention. he was the only person really messaging to that demographic. throughout that whole program, who is an elected official. because of that, he really does appeal to that -- he is probably the closest to part of that segment of the population. i wouldn't be surprised if you see him more places. back in pennsylvania, probably in ohio and more through the rust belt states. >> does the bench hillary clinton has on her side worry you in terms of advocates who can go on the trail? >> vice president biden is a good messenger but it must drive him crazy knowing he probably should have run and could have won the nomination and the fact she says she left the white house dead broke and now is worth $100 million. i think that's not the type of blue collar values joe biden has fought for his entire life and is now stuck with a nominee he thinks he should probably be. now he's a good surrogate for her, for that demographic, but he must think internally i could be there, not her. >> i think when vice president biden thinks about the
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presidential race, i think he thinks about his loss and he thinks about his son who is not with him. i don't think he thinks of it in those kind of ways because it was clearly a personal, painful decision. it's not just about the bench that secretary clinton has which i agree is amazing. it's about how the bench can send a message, right? you have donald trump last week in his economic speech talking about a child care tax credit. it's going to give you 40, 50 cents on the dollar to pay for your nanny. it doesn't do anything to open up child care to the americans like the hard-working men and women in scranton who can't afford child care. it's not just joe. it's somebody who can message to the facts and the lacking policies to help low income or middle class americans. >> hillary clinton has minority voters trending in her favor overwhelmingly. if she is successful to get middle class voters and pick off even moderate numbers in swing states, that will be critical
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against trump. >> in a state like pennsylvania she has the wrong message. we criticize trump for being not substantive. today the speech with her and biden was not substantive. it was primarily an attack ad. take an issue like coal. she has said whether she was joking or not she wants to put coal companies out of business but management and union are saying the obama epa and the administration is putting coal companies out of business. you look at other things like natural gas drilling. she said in the democratic debate there will be enough regulations passed under her watch to basically eliminate hydraulic fracturing in that state. if you are trying to pick up people affected by the recession, she has an awful message for pennsylvania. now it's on the trump campaign to start hitting her on policy issues. >> let me just give you this backdrop. you see hillary clinton who spent her summers in scranton, pennsylvania with joe biden, the son of scranton, pennsylvania today talking, walking through the neighborhoods, going to the house where he grew up, talking about how he was raised. the kitchen table conversation about politics, real politics,
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debating about whether or not substantively one was a democrat or republican. you contrast that with your candidate with his gold-plated sinks on his private jet swooping down into detroit, not stopping in a single black neighborhood getting back to anderson's question on minority voters. that is exactly why your candidate -- i'm not done. i'm not done. that's exactly why your candidate is struggling with minority voters. this blue collar billionaire is not so blue collar. he's so afraid to go into neighborhoods that are working class neighborhoods that he's not set foot in one. the other candidate does regularly. >> -- just to be seen as -- >> that's what happens when you are -- >> come on. >> battleground polls, as somebody who probably knows a lot about polls, having been a politician yourself, does trump still have a path ahead to turn things around? >> i think you have to understand the public is very volatile. the voters are volatile. he went into the republican convention down three, came out
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up seven. ten-point swing. the potential for this race, i actually think he could possibly sink lower. i also think he could surge. i think it will depend where he goes from here. it's obviously a path forward. if you look at rob portman, republican incumbent senator running for re-election in ohio, he's now in the latest poll up nine even with trump down five. why? because portman is appealing to a broad cross-section of voters, talking about things like the opiate and heroin addiction issues and forced slavery, sexual slavery, things that are appealing. he's running even with women and ahead by double digits with men. trump ought to be looking at this and saying i need to be talking about things that are relevant to people. i don't care who his messenger is. joe biden, in the end, people care about trustworthy, a in jo majority of americans think hillary clinton is untrustworthy, people have done poorly under barack obama, they don't want america going
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backwards in terms of income and they care about national security. >> donald trump has a lot of money they have raised. last month they made $80 million, a lot from small donations. in terms of ad spending, are we seeing a lot of that? >> i think you will see it moving forward. the olympics have taken up a lot of oxygen over the last ten days and will continue to do that. >> you made a point it's an expensive ad buy -- >> they will look at that. congressman's exactly right. this election is about national security, donald trump talked about it today, how to protect the homeland, the economy, talked about it today, and change to washington. congress has an 11% approval rating. 11%. that's when you actually poll the members of congress and they still only have 11% approval rating. people want a fundamental change in washington. the system has been broken for 30 years. you now have a choice. you have a person who has never been in washington before who created an amazing business and created jobs in the private sector and you can put that person in for fundamental change or the third term of the obama administration. >> yet that message doesn't seem to be working right now for donald trump.
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>> i think one of the problems is the messenger. because yes, he hasn't been in washington but he's been in a golden tower in new york city. mike pence i think really helps that message a lot because he's someone who has been in indiana. the same way that tim kaine helps hillary clinton as someone who hasn't been in washington his entire life. we will see who wins but i think the bottom of the ticket illustrates that more sort of hometown message. >> donald trump though, for saying where he lives is the equivalent of saying hillary clinton has made $100 million in speeches since her and her husband have left the white house, made $100 million. >> are you saying he's just a regular -- >> donald trump didn't do this off the government. he didn't do it from monopolizing his government. he went out and created jobs and built buildings. >> he did it with a million dollar loan from his father and sent countless jobs to china and unemployed americans and let small business owners in atlantic city and many other places holding the bags for the
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bills he never paid. i think the congressman is right. this could all change. we will fight this election until tend. that's why the secretary has a great ground game in every state. it's the messenger and the message. when you boil it down there's nothing there for middle class. there's trillions of dollars of tax cuts for billionaires and millionaires. >> what about trump's ground game? a lot of people saying hillary clinton has this incredible ground game. >> look, honestly, this is the same story i heard in the primaries. ted cruz has the greatest ground game. you know where he is today? not the nominee. donald trump was underrated, everybody said he has no ground game in new hampshire, he won by 20 points. no ground game in nevada, won every county. where is the greatest ground game of the party? donald trump because he won. >> we will see. i want to thank everybody. up next a woman and her dog inside a car, incredible video, sinking fast in flood waters rescued by volunteers in louisiana. five other people have died in the flood. danger far from over.
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the flooding danger is far from over in southern louisiana tonight. rivers continue to rise. we have seen breathtaking stories of survival caught on camera. meteorologist jennifer gray reports. >> reporter: more than 20,000 people have been rescued since last week as deadly flood waters have prompted a state of emergency across south louisiana. >> get my dog! get my dog! >> i got your dog. >> reporter: the massive flooding has claimed the lives of at least five people, devastating entire communities which are now under water. >> this car's under the water. >> highest i have ever seen it. i have been in this area since 1983. >> reporter: tens of thousands of residents have been forced to evacuate their homes and chilling images like this coast guard rescue of a child remind many in the region of hurricane
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katrina's horrific aftermath a decade ago. >> these are all my neighbors that ended up getting a nice dose of no, this couldn't happen in reality it can. >> reporter: reggie wade has lived in the southeast baton rouge neighborhood for 24 hours. >> i've never seen it get up in this yard above the carport. carports are all under water along with the entire house. >> reporter: the louisiana national guard has deployed almost 2,000 soldiers to assist local first responders with search and rescue efforts, and with more than 24 inches of rain falling in the area since last week, they know they are up against the clock. >> it is still very, very dangerous. we still have waters rising in a number of areas. all of our people are still on high alert. >> reporter: most of the rivers have crested in this area as all of this water heads down to the south. however, a lot of those rivers
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are going to hold at crest stage for a couple of days, possibly, so it could be the end of the week before some people are able to get back in their homes. some of the homes behind me have water chest deep, anderson. it looks like we are going to stay mainly dry for the next couple of days aside from a few spotty afternoon showers. but a long road ahead for people in south louisiana. >> let's hope they get help fast. jennifer gray, thanks for being there. joining us on the phone, the man we just heard from in jennifer's report, the mayor president of baton rouge, kip holden. thanks for being with us. first of all, what is your biggest concern right now, the biggest need? >> right now it's still making sure people are adequately sheltered, making sure that we are watching and still checking to see what happens to the water. for example, this afternoon, we had to send fire and rescue people out to an area that had been under water for all of these days to check homes to make sure no people are left in those homes. there are a multitude of things going on.
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we are trying to prioritize those and still deliver the service to people in shelters as well and get people food. >> all the rescue efforts, just incredible to see not only by first responders, trained first responders, but also civilians out there in boats rescuing people. the residents who have been evacuated, how are they, where are they right now? what kind of facilities are there for them? >> for example, for special needs individuals, they are at lsu in a center there. we have people at our center in downtown so we have people there. frankly and virtually, some churches and southern university as well. we are taking the space we are getting and still trying to make sure we are accommodating people and not putting them from one side of town to another or another parish, trying to make sure they are centralized. i can tell you still we will be doing this for another several days including an abandoned studio, they are not shooting any movies there right now yet they opened up sound stages to say here are places where you can bring people as well.
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so people are responding to our need in order to get people located in baton rouge but at the same time, it's not just baton rouge, it's several other parishes surrounding us and many of those parishes frankly have greater damage than we do. so it's a lot of work that has to go in before we can stand back up but yet, even months down the line, there will be a lot of work to do in all of these parishes. >> i heard you say one of the toughest things you have seen is firefighters carrying out the elderly, the sick people through flood waters to safety. what do you tell people who have to leave their homes? a lot of folks obviously don't want to leave their homes, are scared to leave their home. >> frankly, we have had just the opposite. a lot of people have called for help and are still calling for help. so we have this partnership going, because there's a mutual trust that's been here based upon all the storms that we've had. so therefore, they go in to take care of them but at the same time, we make sure people are patrolling those areas to give that extra part of security to let them know we are taking care
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of them at all levels. i can tell you that bond between the rescuers and those who have been rescued is very, very tight. >> i just got word that now we believe the death toll is raised to eight confirmed fatalities. mayor holden, i appreciate all you're doing. thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. >> we thank you all so much for showing the flight of people here. may god bless each and every one of you for showing and letting people know what we are going through. >> we love louisiana. thank you so much, mayor. up next, milwaukee on alert facing a third night of protests following a deadly police shooting. can the situation be one tand tonight? a live report next. if you've gone to extremes to escape your nasal allergies.
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twice in the arm and chest. according to the body cameras recorded the deadly exchange. >> i seen a still photo and that still photo demonstrates without question that he had a gun in his hand. and i want our community to know that. >> reporter: but so far, police have not yet released that picture. video or the name of the officer who killed smith. we do know he is 24 years old. a three-year veteran of the force. and african-american. he has been put on administrative duty during an investigation. >> leave the area. this is an unlawful assembly. >> reporter: saturday night's protests were the most intense of the weekend with hundreds of people crowded in the streets. some armed. authorities say shots were fired in several areas of the city sending one person to the hospital. seven officers were injured from rocks, glass bottles and bricks
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smashed against their patrol cars. in one case the impact dented this riot gear. all together, police made 31 arrests. smith's family is reeling from their loss. and asking demonstrators to be peaceful. >> we want everybody to feel our pain. >> reporter: many in this community believe it was just a matter of time for protests to erupt here. the milwaukee health department found milwaukee to be the most segregated major city between black and white residents. >> what they're doing is not helping the community at all. we need to build a relationship. you know, with the cops. >> reporter: milwaukee police are preparing for the possibility of more protests as is wisconsin's governor who has declared a state of emergency. and this case now in the hands of the state department of justice. not local authorities. wisconsin, anderson, actually the first state in the country to require police-involved shootings that end in fatalities
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