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these two it looked like the cover of a romance novel. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. and thank you so much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening, thanks for joining us. we're waiting to hear from donald trump. he is in milwaukee in a suburb there and he'll be speaking from a teleprompter and this time talking about law and order and these remarks expected to be the focused performance that some in the party would like to see more and continuing to pivot as some call it the general election voters and that is their hope and however they may be disappointed because trump told a local cnn affiliate saying he does not want to pivot and he does not want to change. he does not think it would be true to who he is and in so many word, so be it. we'll talk about it with the panel, but first, sara murray sets the stage. >> reporter: donald trump's hitting the trail in wisconsin today, hammering home his claim that he's the top choice for voters looking for law and
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order. >> we have to obey the laws or we don't have a country. we have a case where good people are out there trying to get people to sort of calm down and they're not calming down, and we have our police who do a phenomenal job. >> trump touring a memorial with veterans and members of law enforcement in milwaukee, a city recovering from clashes after police shot and killed an armed man over the weekend. his security-oriented visit coming just a day after trump delivered a foreign policy speech laden with promises to defeat isis. >> my administration will aggressively pursue joint and coalition military operations to crush and destroy isis. >> but sparse on the details on how trump would accomplish that aim as president. as the gop nominee looks to bolster his foreign approximately see credentials sources tell cnn trump will receive his first classified intelligence briefing wednesday in new york. it's a primer that's caused heartburn among lawmakers and former intelligence officers
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wary of looping in the free-wheeling candidate on sensitive information and it comes days after trump reiterated his call for closer ties with russia. >> i also believe we can find common ground with russia in the fight against isis. would aren't that be a good thing? would aren't that be a good thing? >> one of trump's aides seizing on news that russia sent warplanes from iran to target isis in syria as a positive sign. trump's social media head dan scovino tweeting, another trump idea becoming a reality. russia going to bomb isis at the moment. trump is facing blowback for his calls to partner with russia and has past pradz fise for vladimi putin. the trump campaign blasting out a statement to highlight his ties to russia claiming she and her allies sold out person interests to putin in exchange for political and financial favors. sara murray, cnn, new york. so with that as the backdrop
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let's go to jason carroll in west bend, wisconsin. we are wait for example this donald trump speech. where you are right now, what are we expecting to hear tonight in the teleprompters are set up and we are told this is supposed to be much more of a focused address. >> right. and because the prompters are here, anderson, the hope is ng moo his supporters that he will be focused here tonight. i think if you look at the interview that he gave a little earlier today, anderson, i think that will give us some insight into what he'll talk about here tonight. he was asked what he would do to pick the problems plaguing milwaukee. he said two things. he said one, there needs to be a need for more economic development and there has to be law and order. so we expect him to once again make that claim and make that stand here tonight that he is the law and order candidate, and to draw a stark contrast between himself who he bills as being pro-cop and hillary clinton who he says is anti-cop, weak on
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crime, weak on terrorism. these are some of the themes we expect him to address tonight. >> trump gave an interview where he addressed criticism that he needs to pivot. we talked about some of what he said. talk more about that. >> reporter: well, look, he was asked about this need to pivot. we've heard it before and questions about his rhetoric and is that working for him? clearly, it has not been working so well for him in the state of wisconsin where hillary clinton is leading in the latest poll by 12 points so he was asked. do you need to pivot and do you need to change your tone? donald trump said i don't think i need to change my tone. it's got enemy this far, but then i want you to look at something. a short while ago, anderson, he released a statement, a pledge to the american people and language that sounded very different from the language we've heard from donald trump before. let me read part of it, we will reject bigotry, hatred and oppression in all its forms and seek a new future built on our
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common culture and values as one american people. certainly that's not the type of language we've heard before from donald trump. his critics have been saying all along that he's not incluesive and he's run a divisive campaign. this seems to be somewhat of a pivot on paper in terms of what we hear later on here today. expect that to be very much about being the law and order candidate. anderson? >> jason carroll. thanks. i want to bring in the panel before trump's remarks and washington post political reporter philip bump and clinton supporter, christine quinn and pro-clinton supervisosupervisor begala and mary katherine hamm, senior writer at the federalist and fair to say a trump critic and john j. lavelle. >> this idea of donald trump, you're talking about law and order tonight. he clearly, their campaign clearly sees this as a potential advantage they have over secretary clinton. >> that's true. i'm not sure whether or not that bears out in the polls. if you look at the polling,
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people trust clinton to repair the damage between the black community and the police more than they trust donald trump to do so, for example, he's made this the focus of the campaign, but what we've seen over the past month or two months with the campaign is he's not figured out how to extend his core base and support. i'm not sure they'll let him expand outward in terms of the number of people he's reaching and he's in the low 40s in terms of polling and i'm not sure that reinforcing the same thing in this way will help him pass this mark. >> there were a lot of articles about lack of outreach to the african-american community to the united states and even to african-american conservatives. >> yeah. reports are that a lot of his supporters and advisers are urging him to begin doing that. i honestly think the trump campaign hasn't done any outreach to african-american voters because some of his team is smart enough to know he's not going to do well there. he's not going to do well there. period. he's certainly not going to do well there against secretary
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clinton who has a life time record of working to help low-income community ands people of color in this country move upward and on top of that, you know, the divisive rhetoric we've talked about over and over and picking out community, that doesn't sit well with african-americans. even if they haven't been targeted because they know they'll be the next community. >> kayleigh, is that something you want to see him do? >> what i want to see him do is build a bridge and there were a lot of people looking at the obama administration with frustration and worry. when you see a number of officers killed in dallas and in milwaukee, six businesses burned to the ground and when we see baltimore and riots there is a lot of unrest at home. a lot of people thought barack obama had the opportunity to be a bridge between the african-american community and those sometimes on the wrong end of police brutality and the police community. barack obama hasn't been that bridge and donald trump tonight to speak to the economic plight of the african-american community and say, look, there are incidences of police
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brutality that need to be addressed, but overall law enforcement is good. police are good and they're there to protect you and enforce the law. if he can build the bridge, that's what people wanted to learn for eight years. >> we are learning that the trump campaign will start general election campaign ads in five states this week in north carolina, ohio, pennsylvania, and virginia. he did have a good month of fund-raising last month with $80 million and clinton brought in $90 million and $80 million in small donations. i should point out your super pac was also -- >> we announced -- our super pac is standing down for now in three of the nine or ten states. >> why in. >> frankly because she's winning by so much and there are so many more resources to where we can do the most good and it's remarkable that 84 days out we're looking at expanding the field and reaching out to states. hillary doesn't have to win any
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of the romney states and she has to carry the states president obama carried. she's leading in states that romney won. >> when the trump campaign says look, we haven't begun to spend all of the money that we have in our arsenal and haven't even been, the clinton campaign, and the super pacs have been spending tons of money on ads and trump has all this money ready to go now. does it worry you? >> yes. it does. it will tighten up. any democrat who thinks this thing will be a cake walk is out of their mind. >> absolutely. >> in all of american history there were only three democrats that got 53%, andrew jackson, lbj and that's it. this will be a close race, believe me. those ads, trump has able people around him. they're going to make good ads and it will have an effect. >> and everyone on the campaign believes that and that's clearly the belief in hillary's campaign and you have to fight this until the end and you can't assume anything and nothing is won. >> we have much more focus on donald trump in the last two
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days. there was the speech yesterday. the speech tonight and there was this tweet today and yet at the same time trump says i don't want to pivot even though back early on in multiple interviews and i did interviews where he said after the primary i'll be more presidential. i can be anything i want to be. he clearly -- i mean, which is it? is he pivoting or is he pivoting without saying he's pivoting? >> if you know donald trump he is going to be himself. he is not going to pivot. what you're seeing right now, we spoke about the african-american community and he's reaching out to them through his policy positions because it's the democrat policies that are not working. >> at some point doesn't he have to go to an after can american church? doesn't he actually have to go out and -- >> he's talking to african-americans, but you have a community where there's 7 million more people today than seven years ago considered impoverish impoverished. 30% unemployment rate in the african-american community his in these urban communities and
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they're failing miserably in our cities. >> is donald trump reaching out? >> i think that those points are correct and there is an argument to be made there. will donald trump be able to successfully make it? i don't think so. he may very well be disciplined on the stump tonight and as you see often is a pattern with him, he can't keep a lid on, and it will blow boil over tomorrow. he does not want to pivot and doesn't want to be the teleprompter guy and it is true that that is not what has worked for him in the past. >> let's take a quick break and we'll have more with our panel in just a moment. the fbi takes an unprecedented step giving congress an e-mail from hillary clinton and what is increasing momentum for her in very important states and the speech which will -- and roger ailes and the new role sources say he has in the trump campaign and how women voters may react to that.
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and a big step today from the fbi. we'll have more on all of that right now from our joe johns. >> reporter: hillary clinton campaigning today at a philadelphia voter registration event. >> when donald trump speaks he speaks about fear. he speaks about such negativity and such pessimism. >> but her e-mail controversy is still casting a shadow over her campaign. >> the fbi releasing a new report to congress detailing why it recommended no charges be filed against the former secretary of state over her use of a private e-mail server. the report also includes notes taken by the fbi during witness interviews. the report is classified, but it does keep the controversy alive for clinton while offering trump another talking point against her. >> hillary clinton lacks the judgment as said by bernie sanders, stability and temperament and the moral character to lead our nation.
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>> the clinton campaign saying they prefer the report be released publicly rather than parts selectively released by someone with political motives against clinton. meantime, clinton is polling very well in key battle ground states like virginia and a new washington post poll shows clinton ahead by ten points there, 51% ahead of 43% among likely voters. she's doing so well, priorities usa is pulling ads in virginia along with colorado and pennsylvania for much of september. >> priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >> clinton's early success in those states means they can focus their attention and cash in states where it's more needed. in philadelphia she was working hard to turn out african-american voters in record numbers. >> we want you all to register to vote. we have places to register because we don't want you on the
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sidelines come november. >> clinton courting the black vote a day after vying for white working class voters alongside vice president joe biden in scranton, pennsylvania, trying to hold on to the battleground state that's gone to the democrats in every presidential election since clinton won it in 1992. >> friends should not let friends vote for trump. >> and the clinton campaign is already putting together its transition team announcing former colorado senator ken salazar will lead it. joe johns, cnn, philadelphia. >> and back with the panel. >> again, as a trump supporter, do you think that this latest chapter on the e-mail saga that it continues to resonate with people and obviously with trump supporters it does, but with independents and others who haven't made up their minds yet. >> i think it absolutely does and polling bears that out and if you look at the way nbc, and the 70% of voters trust hillary clinton and that is an
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astonishing new low and if donald trump can drive this home in a way that becomes real to voters saying she imperiled national secrets and here's how she did it and that's what house republicans are saying and they listed four areas where she told congress something that the fbi director actively contradicted. if he can drive that message home, she perjured himself before congress and she could be lying to you. that is effective. >> and your focus groups on this, does it resonate? >> it's done real damage. it has. when the story broke, to quote george w. bush, i misunderestimated. but when it comes from donald trump and the congressional republicans voters disdowned immediately and we were 84 days before the election and my capacity for ironies is completely gone and we need a clock ticker for the town hall meeting and how many milliseconds before republicans in congress mishandle the classified information they're
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going to leak this stuff so fast and it is beyond irony and hypocrisy. the fact -- >> they might even get punished for it since they're not running for president. >> they will get away with it. >> the clinton campaign has said put it all out there. don't just give it to folks in capitol hill who will let it out piecemeal. >> i think that speaks volumes about the confidence secretary clinton has -- >> or just wants to get it over with all at once. >> no, that would aren't be the case, because in that case, hope for the best. >> she knows they can't release it. >> that is the point. she's saying that because she knows it's impossible because it can't be released so it looks like transparence. >> how about release your taxes, donald trump? >> i mean -- hello! >> another red herring in this campaign. >> how so? >> he filled out his financial disclosure form which release
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ea ease. >> it's very similar. >> it doesn't include non-profits. >> exactly to the dollar? the difference -- >> a lot of money. >> particularly because we're talking about someone who is a self-professed billionaire that has all these businesses and we have seen the personal financial disclosure that has lists of what he owns and we don't know his annual tax rate and how much he is giving to chairity. >> if it was the same thick, he would have no problem. >> it's a document that discloses what entities he own, what the a proximate value of the income is. >> although -- the financial disclosure is -- >> i don't want to get in the weeds on this, but a lot of that value is donald trump's value based on his brand as opposed to what the irs says -- >> i filled out many financial disclosure forms and the assumption is that the person is being honest and you put in brackets that something could be
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worth 10,000 to $250,000 and it's a range and no one vets it and your taxes which i've also released many years ago when i was an elected official are totally, totally different. you can say it's a disclosure, but it is not the same. >> do you think voters care about the tax returns? because democrats are trying to hit this hard and donald trump has the story saying i'm being audited. >> the problem is they're fighting on equally dishonest grounds. the good news for republicans is that she is unliked -- >> and won't release the peaches. >> and the bad news is that he is also. they are offering the american people two 72 pin thtos and the american people are, like, don't they all blow up? >> there has to be a small group of pinto voters out there saying i don't care. >> it's trying to spin everything away from what is coming out now. and the fact that the foundation -- they've been selling the influence of the
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u.s. government to individuals who are contributing to this foundation. they are now directly linking her personal aides, his personal aides and their campaign workers to the foundation, to the government and they're selling the interest of the united states. >> and i wish they were as good as you. >> there were questions about sort of this confluence between the foundation and access to the state department. >> first, let me say -- love you, john, but that's a gross overstatement of what the facts are, a. b, the three or four e-mails in question were released by a far right-wing group that has been trying to hurt hillary clinton for decades. and the two or three e-mails in question were between staff. they were not with the secretary in any way, shape or form and the two e-mails that are most in question the gentleman who wanted to speak, the former ambassador -- >> wait, the man who wanted to speak to the former ambassador and anybody who sent the request never got the meeting and the
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kid who wanted the job, anybody can ask if you want to get the kid a job, they got no response. >> why did they want the job? >> it doesn't matter! they didn't get it. >> there was nothing to buy and so they didn't get it. >> really? >> if secretary clinton becomes president does the foundation continue? i asked her about this. would bill clinton continue to be on the foundation? it does raise some complicated issues. >> sure. it's a great question. part of the challenge she's having now is while she was secretary of state it existed and that's causinging some of te overblown allegations and there are ways that people have to deal with their entanglements once they go into office, they would have to figure something out and i don't think it does them much good. the goal was to have bill clinton to continue to have the presence on the global stage and that worked. >>. >> let's take a quick break.
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>> i voo a person who is flat-chested is very hard to be a 10. >> you dropped to your knees. it must be a pretty picture that you dropped to your knees. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes and blood coming out of her whatever. >> i know where she went. it's disgusting. i don't want to talk about it. >> joining the panel, paul begala and katie mcmainy and david gergen and anchor of cnn's "reliable sources." roger ailes has a successful history of prepping presidential candidates for debates and hanging over roger ailes is the out offer is the sexual harassment charges and the ouster of fox news. >> there is a certain desperation there. is it a marriage made in heaven or a marriage made in hell? there are trump supporters who
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will tell you, listen, roger ailes is gifted. there is no question about that. he built fox news. and for years, long before he even went to fox he'd been a successful media adviser, and i remember him back in the late '60s and '70s and he is probably the only man on the planet who can get donald trump to listen and turn him into a better candidate on tv starting with the debates. that said, why in the world would you turn to somebody who has been forced out of a job over sexual harassment? it's not just one case and there are many cases, as you well know and at the very time donald trump is trying to win over women voters in order to win. this is a sort of a thumb in the eye to people that believe it is important. where you stand on those kinds of issues and why can't he get more high-quality people around him? i mean, his campaign manager paul manafort was embroiled
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about his past associations with shady characters from russia. i think on balance, anderson, it would help him in the debates. it will help trump in the debates, but on balance i think it puts -- again, puts a firmer lid on how high he can go in attracting voters he needs to win. >> kaylee, do you think people care who may be advising trump officially or unofficially. >> i think voters care about how the policies will affect their families and it's very clear to me if you want your family to be safe and economically sound, donald trump's policies are the policies for you. >> it doesn't bother you at all him bringing on roger ailes even if it's unofficial. >> the campaign says he's not a formal adviser or informal adviser and i trust the campaign and that is what i take as truth. i don't think the clinton campaign wants to get into a fit for tat with sexual allegations and you have bill clinton who has been accused of sexual assault twice and suits eight times and i don't think that's
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what the clinton campaign wants to get into. >> he has been for months and it's different about the debates and we know they were together at trump's golf course in new jersey, for example. ails doesn't need the money and trump doesn't need the trouble and definitely, informally, roger ailes has been running an anti-clint network for 20 years and now this is almost one final battle for ails and one final showdown. clinton and ailes as a proxy with trump doing it. >> this is a stupid idea, k kayleigh is right. nobody votes on who your advisers are. roger is hard wired for the same team trump already has. angry, older, high school educated white men and he made millions, as a tv program he is a genius and as a political strategist, he is 50 years past
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his prime. i did a campaign against roger, let me break. his candidate was dick thornburgh. he was 47 point ahead and my guy beat him by ten and that was 25 years ago, okay? the world had already gone past him in politics by 1991. >> i'd give him more credit than that. >> young women, people of color, fox news average audience. >> -- it's god's waiting room. it's the last thing you see before you expire. how is trump going to get 18-year-olds? >> you're an ageist, paul begala. >> yes, i am. they're not the voters that will drive the election. >> he has them. he neds unmarried women and people of color. roger has no gift for reaching them. none whatsoever. >> i don't think that's true. roger ailes has quite a political resume of success and one of television success, as well, and his success comes in understanding how to take complex points and present them
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in a way that is centered around themes and that is compelling and that is simple to grab on to and understand. so rather than the ten-point plans and the 12-point plans and the weeds that hillary clinton gets lost in, roger ailes knows how to drive home a theme and drive home a message. >> to voters donald trump already has. he'll be reaching voters that trump already has. >>. >> i think paul begala is making very good points about the voters he needs to reach him and this doesn't help him reach it and paul, you really ought to be a stand-in, that's the best argument i've heard about trump in a while, but having said that, i disagree with the idea that roger is 50 years behind his prime. fox news continues to dominate and he continues to score successes. it's his departure from fox doesn't have anything to do with how successful he was and it was a counter argument and it has to do with sexual harassment. >> there's more than 20 women that have spoken mostly anonymous to investigators
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alleging sexual harassment over a period of decades and this is a big scandal and it hasn't gotten as much attention because of the election season and his fall from grace at fox news is one of the biggest media stories in the last decade and if voters do know about it, just the fact that they are speaking may hurt trump in some indirect way. i agree voters don't make decisions based on who is advising who, but in an int direct way people do pay attention to who your friends and enemies are. >> we'll have more -- >> i don't think that's right about the advisers. >> i'm sorry, david. >> in my experience going back to the nixon days, the advisers matter a lot and the people around the president and the presidential nominee matters a lot and he needs -- where are the high-quality people he needs in order to win a presidency? >> we'll have more with the panel ahead and why he's questioning hillary clinton's physical stamina and why he's playing to a long-running conspiracy theory is we'll bring you the trump speech when it happens. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn
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welcome back. donald trump says hillary clinton doesn't have the, quote, physical stamina to fight isis and it is a curious charge given
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that trump is two years older than clinton. one has to wonder about her being a woman or is he playing a into a conspiracy theory one, that sean hannity has given traction to lately. >> hillary clinton lacks the judgment as said by bernie sanders, stability and te temperament and the moral character to lead our nation. >> reporter: donald trump taking on not just hillary clinton's character, but also now raising questions about her health. >> importantly, she also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on isis and all of the many adversaries we face. >> reporter: trump made the comments about clinton's stamina on the heels of reports from the conservative site drudge report proclaiming sick talk, weekends for rest. the videos are swirling online. clinton tripping after climbing the stairs of her plane in 2011, seemingly needing help in a
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february campaign event in south carolina and stumbling while stepping off the podium at a rally in joe biden this week and the conspiracy-still speculation about clinton's health propelled in part by fox news host sean hannity. >> some of the weird pauses she has, the coughing fits she has, and there were moments when i'm literally watching her and i'm thinking, the facial expressions are odd. they seem off. >> it's a violent, violent repetitive jerking of the head here. you can see, it's uncontrollable. watch the reporter pull back as -- the reporter got scared and she keeps doing it. what is that? >> the associated press reporter says clinton's head movements weren't uncontrollable or violent and that she was simply reacting to the barrage of questions thrown at her. clinton responded with an exaggerated motion shaking her head vigorously for a few seconds and the health hoopla dates back to 2014 when
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republican strategist karl rove was quoted in a new york gossip column saying hillary clinton may have brain damage. >> she had a serious episode. a serious health episode. this was a serious deal. >> clinton sustained a concussion in 2012 when she was secretary of state. in the medical report released by her campaign in 2015, clinton's doctor said her concussion symptoms including the double vision resolved within two months. trump was criticized with his fast food habit and lack of exercise released this, if leched mr. trump, i can state unequivocally will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. clinton took to her personal campaign podcast last week to stress she is fit to be commander in chief. >> i, knock on wood, am pretty lucky because i have a lot of stamina and endurance which is necessary in the kind of campaign that i'm engaged in. >> with the two presidential
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nominees among the oldest in history, clinton 68 and trump 70, health questions could keep swirling. jessica schneider, cnn, new york. >> just moments ago a new statement from the clinton campaign reads in part, quote, hillary clinton has released a detailed medical record showing her to be in excellent health and her personal tax return since 1977 while trump has failed to provide the public with the most basic financial information disclosed by every major candidate. it's time for him to stop using shameful distractions to hid his own record. that prompted hannity to call stelter little pip-squeak on fox this morning. >> that's a little -- >> you know. well, i was kind of amazed that sean hannity did put that sort of analysis of that ridiculous head moving video which was obviously just her having a faycal most spit-take reaction
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to what a reporter was saying. >> anderson, sean hannity is an excellent broadcaster and he's entertaining. he's definitely an entertainer, but he's doing a disservice to his audience by peddling these conspiracy theories and the clinton campaign they are right tonight to be saying these are just conspiracy theories. they've been debunked time and time again and unfortunately to some viewers, and to readers of the drudge report and sean hannity's show, and they believe this stuff and it does a disservice to the audience. >> to some democrats they think this is code word for he's raising questions about her being a woman. do you see -- how do you see him when he talks about her physical stamina. >> no, with regard to sean hannity, quickly. he brings up her physical health and we've done segments on here about the mental health of donald trump. if sean wants to bring up physical health and we brought up the mental health of donald trump and that's fair. i think when donald trump mentions physical stamina it's
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just part of what he does. you saw him question low energy jeb bush. that's a line of attack that he put forthwith regard to jeb bush and let's go back to 2008 when people were saying john mccain was confused and barack obama came on cnn and said that -- excuse me, that john mccain lost his bearings and that was clearly a hit at his physical, i guess well-being or bearings. so i think we've seen this throughout campaign history and this is nothing new and donald trump is not trying to get much out of that statement. >> hillary clinton testified for 11 hours on the hill in one day and it was one of the most grueling things i've ever seen and she passed it with flying colors. this says a lot more about donald trump and the conspiracy theorists than it says about hillary. this is now about character and sean is a gifted broadcaster and a bit of of a blockhead and a pretty good guy, and he's engaging in sleaze. we're not even sean, i used to go on his radio show from time to time and this is a really sleazy thing and frankly, again, it's not going to get them any
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votes. >> do you think it's fair to question the mental health of donald trump, if you're so hard on -- >> i colloquially i may say he's crazy, but no. >> there are several commentators who have said on our air that he's not mentally healthy. >> he does do some eccentric things and i think that's because what he pretends to be. he holds himself out and i think he's what he is. mrs. obama said character is revealed in a presidential campaign more than it's tested and frankly, it is for all of us and sean's character will be revealed and one day his children or grandchildren will look back on this and i don't think they'll be proud of what he's doing. >> you go back to years ago on twitter. >> there is a grain of truth in the stories because of her health scare several years ago. >> she had a concussion. she fell at home. >> there's been this grain of truth and a mountain of lies built on top of it. her doctor saying she is in excellent health and think about the conservative media ecosystem
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and in 2012 there were unskewed polls where conservatives online were convinced that mitt romney was winning. there's something happening now with claims, conspiracy theories about hillary clinton and convincing that some that trump has it in the bags and he's winning in the polls and clinton is not going to be able to be president because she has a secret health problem, et cetera. these voters will be in for a rude awakening on election day and they're getting misinformation from their favorite news sources and that's why i'm saying it does a disservice to the drudge report and it is peddling this kind of stuff, i would use a more vulgar word, but we're on prime time. this is stuff that does not belong on a lead on the fox news channel and the fact that it's showing up again and again, it shows that donald trump is in some ways mainstreaming conspiracy theories. >> we will be taking donald trump's speech tonight. we are told it's more of of a
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speech than a traditional rally which is not something we would just take and this is more of a speech and we'll be taking this. up next, we want to quickly change the topic because what's happening in louisiana is just extraordinary and we want to have you meet this hero who rescued a woman and her dog from a car sinking into the louisiana floodwaters. he joins me to share how he did it.
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more politics coming up. first want to talk about louisiana. the flood waters there have now claimed 11 lives. more than 20,000 others have been rescued including a woman and her dog. you have probably seen this video. we first told you about it last night. baton rouge rescue was caught on video. volunteers in a boat came upon a car that was sinking quickly. one of the rescuers seen there jumped into the water, went into the car, got the woman's arm, pulls her out of the car, saving her life. as soon as she's able to take a breath she pleads with him to get her dog who is still trapped somewhere inside the car. he thought it was too late. he dives back under the water, finds the dog just in time and happy to say he joins me now on the phone. david, it's a real pleasure to talk to you. you and so many other folks have been doing incredible work helping out, reaching out to
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people in need. what's it been like for you in terms of what you're seeing out there? >> oh, it's overwhelming to see what areas have been impacted and all this water. never would have thought all this water getting so high, so quick. >> how did you start doing this? i mean, did you have a boat, did you just know people who had a boat? what made you decide to start helping out? >> i have my own boat and i just, i guess i just decided to go help. knew some areas that had water in it. i was probably the first boat, maybe the only boat that was there. >> how many hours have you been out there? >> couldn't tell you. i've been since saturday. >> wow. the video that by now has been seen around the world probably
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multiple times, it's just incredible. if you could kind of walk us through first of all, what was going through your mind when you came across that car that was sinking? >> oh, all i knew was time was the major thing because what was t apparent with the water she was in, i had to get her out quick. knowing she was in there, in the car, going down, i didn't want to see somebody die right in front of me. i just had to do what i had to do. >> it's a risky thing to not only go in the water and rescue someone like that because they can panic. at one point she kind of grabs on to you. were you worried at all about your own safety, that you could even be pulled under with the car? >> it actually didn't really cross my mind. i was just focused in and i just knew i had to get her out before the car actually sank all the way to the bottom and actually get ahold of her.
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>> then when she said that the dog was still inside the car, how difficult first of all was it to find her in that car, because it looks like you were able to grab her arm first. >> yes. i grabbed her arm, then i just yanked her out. when she got up, i knew she could swim. that's when i actually kind of held on to the car and started looking for the dog and the car actually got to bottom, where it was too deep to keep my head up. i said i'll give it one last effort, took a deep breath, went down, just reaching around, felt something furry and luckily that was the dog. luckily the dog was still alive, too. >> that must have been an incredible moment when you bring up the dog and you realize the dog's still alive and that both of them were safe. >> yes. i couldn't believe it myself. the dog being down there as long as it was, yeah, i couldn't believe it. >> david, i just think in these
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difficult times where people are polarized and lot of people are at each other's throats, it's just amazing to see folks like you out there volunteering your time and saving lives. i just want to thank you. it's a real honor to talk to you. >> all right. thank you. >> a lot more ahead in the next hour of "360" including our breaking news from the campaign trail. donald trump soon talking law and order we are told in wisconsin. we will bring you the speech. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue.
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