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as it's now being called. police are citing inconsistencies with their stories, from the number of gunmen involved to how the robbery played out. lochte is back in the u.s. already, while the other three remain in brazil. let's get right to this as cnn's international correspondent nick paton walsh is in rio. nick, let's start here with these brand new details about what unfolded at a gas station. >> reporter: this is just breathtaking. a police source is saying when the athletes got to this gas station, they were drunk, they tore a sign off one of the walls there, effectively vandalizing it. then the staff there and those athletes came to some sort of accommodation where they agreed when police arrived that charges weren't necessary to be filed against them. that doesn't necessarily sound like the altercation we've heard from a separate source that may have occurred there. there's been a suggestion from globe o which released the cctv
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you may see shortly that, in fact, they urinated in a side alley way. the cctv does purport to back some of that up. we're talking about a fairly small altercation at a gas station where the police source says no weapons were actually drawn, but somehow this scuffle or dispute merited, it appears, certainly if you listen to the brazilian side of stories, an enormous excuse to be made up by mr. lochte who referred to being the victim of an armed robbery perpetrated by men disguised as police. we have not heard from mr. lochte or his attorney. mr. lochte as of yesterday was sticking by his original story, although subsequent interviews suggested discrepancies in that story. there's a fairly consistent picture from brazilian authorities backed up by the search and seizure warrants released by a court yesterday. a police source also telling us they believe the investigation has shown that there was not actually a robbery there. you'll see this cctv increasing
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calls for a better explanation from mr. lochte and the swimmers and possiblily also, too. discrepancies in the stories emerged. but people asking at what point did the u.s. olympic committee know there may have been a problem with this story, and they were mislead for a lengthy period of time, what reprimand might there be from the athletes. we have not heard from mr. lochte or any other three swimmers, gunna bentz, jimmy feigen and jack conger. two of them, mr. bentz and mr. conger are currently with or may have just left police, giving their first statement to them. my god, has this story moved on incredibly quickly. brazil always keen to perhaps undermine the original narrative that this was armed robbers
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dressed up as police. that does make it very dangerous given the amount of men in uniform here keeping visitors safe. at the same time, too, mr. lochte and his colleagues' testimony had holes in it. the judge himself pointed that out. cctv showed them coming back an hour after that cctv you've just seen at the gas station, 50 minutes in fact actually, looking relatively relaxed -- i say relaxed in the opinion of the judge who used that tape as part of her evidence, but also in possession of a lot of high-value items. the questions mount as to how, if this brazilian official version of events is correct, how it was kept under the carpet it seems quite so long. >> i wonder what you think, nick. ryan lochte posted an instagram video today and was joking around with someone, this is at the same time brazilian police -- you see he's doing the facial distortion thing in a selfie with someone else. what about the optics of this?
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>> look, he's trying to show a lighthearted face about all this. at the end of the day, if the story at the gas station is true, they're cloning around or being mildly offensive to those who worked there, but they're not guilty of any major crime. they seem to have smoothed it all over. the question you have to ask, at what point did brazilian police know about this. did they dismiss it as something that happens in the small hours of a sunday morning. we heard from brazilian olympic official today who talked about how young men in a city like this, successful, great sportsmen, do something silly, let's move on, these things happen in life. we have a remarkable international incident, search and seizure warrants, apgt leets taken off planes, and all it seems at this stage because of the difference the in the
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stories the swimmers told. it has been remarkable to watch it unfold and also in retrospect wonder how easy this would have been to avoid. >> that story that ryan lochte told initially was someone cocked a gun and put it to his forehead. just the fearfulness of that image for sure. >> how would you make that up? >> exactly. and then it seems like he changed his story. nick paton walsh, thank you so much, in rio. i want to get the latest in who knew we would be going here from for information on this, but the latest from the state department. their spokesman john kerr by joins me now live. thank you for talking to us about this. is the state department involved in any way here? >> there's not a lot i can actually say about this case, we're certainly monitoring press reports and aware of what we've seen through the media.
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this is really an issue for the parties to talk about and not for the state department. as you know, though, we take the safety and security of american citizens abroad very, very seriously, wherever they are. that includes at the limb pims. we have consular officers stationed throughout rio to help americans who are in need. i'm not allowed to go into more detail than that. >> are you in touch with any of the swimmers, families or coaches? >> again,brianna, i'm not at liberty to discuss this issue in anymore detail. i'm sorry about that. there's a real limit to what we can say. >> in a situation like this where someone -- certainly these are people of prominence, but someone gets into issues abroad, is there an automatic response from the state department proactively touching base or do you rely on someone asking for assistance? >> so in general cases, again, not speaking to this, and we
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have consular offices all over the world and trained officers that are equipped to handle all kinds of different requests from americans who are in need overseas. that is in the case in brazil, certainly the case in rio where we have a consulate, where we have people there who are equipped and trained to deal with cases like this. sometimes it is, based on request for assistance and people come to us and say i'm in need of help. if it's the result of a natural disaster where we know there are potential american citizens in need, we reach out as best we can. we don't always have in every case great information about those in a foreign country at a given time. >> as you know, of course, russia has confirmed it's using an air base in iran to launch attacks in syria. what's the official u.s. position on this and how does this complicate efforts to work with russia to halt the fighting
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in syria? >> our position is the same it has been, brianna, and that's there can't be a military solution to the civil conflict in syria. regrettably the regime tries to find a military solution and they have been supported in that effort at various times and various lfls by the russian military. what we've long said is, what we need here is a political solution. russia is a member of the international syrian support group. we'd like to see the focus be less on trying to find military answers and more on trying to work with us on the proposals that secretary kerry has proposed to try to get the cessation of hostilities to be enforceable throughout the country. that's where the focus needs to be, not on more military solutions, not in more bombing in and around aleppo that is putting more civilians in harm's way. you saw the images of that young boy today, absolutely heartbreaking and absolutely unnecessary. if we can work towards getting these proposals in place and
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stopping the violence. >> you've seen that photo and it's gone viral. >> absolutely. >> it gets you right here it's so disturbing. it's this sort of a universal image i think for so many people. what is your hope? it's terrible. it's also something that sort of shakes people and reminds them, look, this is happening. this is happening to small chirp. what is your hope? >> that little boy -- >> as i understand it, that little boy is about 5 years old, which means for every day he's been alive, he's known nothing but conflict and war. and there's a whole generation of young people in syria now who are dealing with this and will live with this for the rest of their lives. what we want and what we're trying to get to is a syria that can inclusive and peaceful and stable and secure. it can't be so with bashar al assad still in power. again, russia is a part of the international syria support group. russia signed on to the un security council resolution that
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calls for a government process here to get to a government that's more responsive to the syrian people to see that syrian children don't have to live in this kind of violence, in this kind of uncertainty, and not to mention that little boy and the destruction of aleppo. now you have mill ups and millions of syrians who have fled the country to try to find safety outside the borders. we want them to be able to come home and have a peaceful life in syria. that's what the state department, the secretary, the president are so focused on. we have to work through this diplomatically. >> it is so jarring to see these images. we know they're disturbing. they're so important to see i think. a lot of times, once you sort of realize what the children are going through, people really start to take note of the tragedy that has been going on now for far too long. we appreciate you. >> it's a very human tragedy. as a father myself, it's extraordinarily difficult to look at an image like that. but it is, as you said, a very
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stark reminder of the stakes in syria and why it's so important to end the violence and find the diplomatic solution going forward. >> people see their little kids in that little boy right there. >> absolute zbli. >> state department spokesman john kirby, thank you very much. for more on the legal fallout to all this, the issue with the american swimmers in rio, i want to bring in legal analyst and writer for "sports illustrated" michael mccann. michael, we appreciate you being with us. this is such a bizarre story. you have a brazilian police source telling cnn they believe there was no robbery, which is what we thought at first, right? we thought these guys had been held up at gunpoint for their wallets. if that's the case, if this didn't happen, how much trouble could the swimmers be in. >> brianna, they could be charged with crimes, charged with lying to the police, filing a false police department, obstruction of justice, trespass and possibly vannedism as well. if there's a physical
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altercation with anyone, there's saub. assault and battery. my gut is that this will be resolved diplomatically rather than through a protracted legal process. >> so -- when we've heard about what the other side of this story is, that there was a urine nation on the side of the gas station, some people say that sounds silly. it sounds also stupid that they would do that. the stupid thing would be, if true, they fabricated this story. that's really the issue here. it's sort of i guess the coverup of whatever it was that happened. they wouldn't face anything for that, forgiving false statements? >> it's a crime in brazil, a crime anywhere to give false statements to police for good reason. you can direct the police on a search and have them arrest the wrong person, someone innocent. you can direct police on a search that wasting their time, their energy, where they could be stopping crime and preventing other crime. it is a big deal. i think the question is sort of how will the state department -- we heard a spokesman earlier
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talk about -- not really answering how this will play out, but the state department is a crucial actor to try to prevent charges from being filed, try to create an amicable solution, maybe an apology, for instan instance, a public apology, something along those lines. >> you mentioned what john kirby was saying, that he can't specifically say anything about this. what is your expectation -- it sound like you think the state department is pretty involved in trying to broker something here. >> i would imagine the state department is very involved at this point. that i are the key actors here. they can help the swimmers get local legal counsel who know the process and also reach out to brazilian authorities and try to say, look, maybe they did something stupid, maybe they lied about it. it is a big deal. i'm not trying to discount it but at the same time trying to say the olympics were very successful. let's try to resolve this in a way that doesn't have a protracted international controversy. we'll see what happens though. >> one of the guys involved
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here, ryan lochte, one of the best swimmers in the world. what kind of mark does that leave, if this does move towards an apology, if it is true that they fabricated their stories, what kind of mark does that leave on his olympics performance and that of these other guys? >> i think it really would be a sad ending to what has been an amazing olympics for the united states for lochte and others to possibly be involved in a coverup or lying to the police. again, let's see what happens. i don't want to say they did something wrong until we know that for sure. but if it turns out they, in fact, were untruthful, it would be embarrassing to lochte, but also to what has been a great olympics for the united states, that this would maybe over shadow. it could hurt his endorsement income, for instance. he's someone who has been on television. it could hurt his ability to be on tv in the future. on the other hand, he's someone who i think has a reputation for being -- i don't want to say
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controversial, but in the news. he might be able to navigate through this. it's certainly not a good thing. >> he's definitely idiosyncratic. we'll definitely say that about ryan lochte. he has a reputation for that. thank you michael mccann with "sports illustrated," a legal analyst there. >> thanks brianna. we'll dig into political headlines, hillary clinton versus donald trump on law and order and the effect that the trump campaign shakeup could have on this race.
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police -- everyone is saying there is respect for the law when everyone is respected by the law. >> while donald trump will hold a rally in battleground north carolina, a day after a major reshuffling of his top campaign staff, i want to bring in cnn's chris frates in washington and jessica schneider in new york. chris, this is interesting because it follows hen's meeting with law enforcement, follows what she did or her campaign and the dnc did at the convention which was talk a lot about law enforcement. she clearly doesn't want to concede this ground to donald trump. is that what today is about? >> that's a lot about what today is about. an aide telling us this really means focusing on the challenges and opportunities that police face all across this country. clinton is bringing chiefs of police from some of the biggest cities in the country. we have l.a., philadelphia, seatt seattle. that's just to name a few. also in attendance right now is
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new york city police commissioner bill bratton who has been very critical of donald trump. >> mr. trump scares me, scares the help out of me to be quite frank with you. personal opinion. i just don't get it. >> why does he scare you as a possible president? >> the lack of depth on issues, the shoot from the hip. i've just watched his whole campaign and i just shake my head. >> now, the nypd says clinton requested the meeting and bratton will discuss the challenges of policing. in a statement the nypd says he's one of the most experienced leaders in american policing, commissioner bratton has a unique perspective into the profession and what we can do to reduce fear, build trust with the community, improve training and better equip officers, having led police departments in boston, los angeles and twice in new york. trump has not asked to meet with
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bratton, but the commissioner would meet with the republican nominee. this is all coming on the heels of the shooting of a black man in milwaukee with weekend and all the ensuing protests. clinton said the country has urgent work to do to rebuild trust between police and communities. i think everyone should have respect for and be respected by the law. now, meanwhile trump has accused clinton of being, quote, against the police, saying she would rather protect the offender than the victim. but by meeting with some of these very important police chiefs right now, brianna, we can see clinton trying to send a message that she supports the police while also acknowledging there's a lot of work to do here, brianna. >> jessica, you have donald trump obviously hitting hillary clinton on this, but he has so much going on because he obviously has a new campaign manager. he has a new campaign ceo, and his new campaign manager is saying this strategy moving forward is really to sharpen the
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message, let trump be himself. here is what kellyanne conway said on "new day." >> we're going to make sure donald trump is comfortable about being in his own skin, that he doesn't lose that authenticity that you simply can't buy and a pollster can't give you. voters know if you're comfortable in your own skin. and let him be him in this sense. if he wants to deliver a speech, if he wants to go to a rally, if he wants to connect with the crowd in a way that's very spontaneous, that's wonderful, and that's how he got here. >> jessica, everyone wants to know what is this going to look like moving forward to november. what more are you learning? >> kellyanne conway probably put it best. she put it this way, it's a two-part strategy that will begin really unfolding tonight. it will combine that pointed policy with a mix of donald trump signature style and flare that we've seen. in fact, a campaign aide on the ground in charlotte, north carolina, where the rally will
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be tonight tells us that donald trump tonight will be talking about two issues we've become familiar with him speaking on, the defeat of radical islamic terror as well as law and order. in fact, our teams on the ground have seen tell prompters being set up now. it won't be the demise probably of tele prompter trump. >> kellyanne conway putting it this way, they want trump 20 stay true to his style but also dig in on the issues. she said in the next two weeks donald trump will have policy speeches on both education and immigration, and she says they don't want to lose donald trump's authenticity. she put it this way. she said it's an authenticity money can't buy and pollsters certainly can't teach. they want donald trump to stick with it. >> the expectation is that this is going to be pretty hard hitting, and everyone is looking at this addition of steve bannon from the right wing breitbart website to the campaign staff as
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the ceo. they're taking that as an indicator of where the tone is going. >> if it's any indication, steve bannon has been brash. he may continue to be brash. we've seen it in him as executive chairman of breitbart news. he has very brash headlines, in fact. anything from alleging hen has health issues to this one headline that says there's no hiring bias against women in tech, they just suck at interviewing. obviously trump has had a problem gelling with women. could bannon's tough time carry over for him to continue to have a tough time? kellyanne conway said, look, i'm a woman. the trump campaign has hired me as the trump campaign manager. i'm there, i'm a woman. she also said that steve bannon is a brilliant tactician. she also said this as well, she said he is unapologetically, unflinchingly unafraid of hillary and bill clinton.
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she said that's exactly what the trump team needs to defeat what she calls the clinton machine. >> jessica schneider, chris frates, thanks to both of you. ahead, more on the state of these campaigns and how some of the more crucial battlegrounds are playing out. can the trump camp shake up, turn these numbers around? our panel will be with us next on that. you both have a
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racial tensions, controversial police shootings, ambush attacks on police officers. issues involving communities and law enforcement are part of this presidential kpap. you have hillary clinton meeting with high-profile law enforcement officials as we speak. donald trump calls himself the law and order candidate. he accuses clinton of being against the police. joining me now to talk more about this, cnn politics editor juana summers and cnn politics analyst jackie kucinich, the washington bureau chief for "the daily beast." two different games here, the different constituencies that hillary clinton and donald trump are trying to appeal to as they talk about law and order and some of the interests of, say, black lives matter. >> absolutely. that's why the calculus here is so different for hillary clinton than it is for donald trump. donald trump, as he taubs about these issues, you saw him go to
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wisconsin, not to milwaukee where 40% of residents are black, instead going to a suburb where 95% of residents are white. he is unlikely to win over black voters. a republican hasn't gotten above 12% with black voters since 1976. hillary clinton's calculus is very different. not only does she want to motivate the obama coalition which includes voters of colors, but also the working class voters. for her to message on this is really critical. >> it seems like one she's really pursuing, jackie. two of the more moving moments that almost made you want to cry, one was the mothers of the movement, women who have lost their children to -- their african-american children to either gun violence or police-involved shootings or in police custody. and then you had another night
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dedicated to police officers who had lost their lives. their loved ones came up and told these amazing touching stories. she's really trying for both of these groups. >> and to juana's point when it comes to your blue collar voters, it's almost like they're trying to lessen the damage, right? it's not like she's going to win white male voters. that's going to be a really hard task for hillary clinton. if they manage to bring that down a bit by this focus, and also this is about the middle class. this is about keeping you safe when she's talking to these law enforcement officials. she has to do that. she has to strike a balance. >> you make an interesting point. she's not going to win white working class males. donald trump isn't going to win african-american voters. but you look at how he's polling. it's at about 1%. mitt romney had 6%, mccain had 4%. if you look at those numbers, you say that's dismal. but you need the margin, you
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need to take at least a few percentage points away. >> that's what the general election is about, making inroads where your weaknesses are. donald trump with black harders, a lot harder of a task. i think one poll had him at 0%. >> it's pretty incredible. let's talk about thisjuana. you have kellyanne conway, everyone in washington knows who she is. she's known as a cool head, knows her stuff. she says the goal is to let trump be trump and also be focused on the issues. it's like she's still again strardalling these two concepts. >> she absolutely is. kellyanne has been doing this a long time. she knows polls better than others in the business. no matter how much shuffling of the chairs you do, this is all about a candidate. this is a candidate we've seen time and time again, one day he
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reads from a teleprompter, the next day he insults elizabeth warren calling her pocahontas. i think we have 80 days left until the general election, so in order to close the gap, the recent polls show there is a gap between the two candidates, there would need to be a change there. >> here is the thing about hillary clinton, she can speak establishment. if you're someone who just tuned in this morning and saw the interview and you're a republican -- lanhee chen said it was chicken soup for the republican soul, that said, kellyanne isn't running. we'll see how much donald trump listens to her. when it comes to a republican running for president, kellyanne has good advice. that's why she'll be on the plane with him. republicans who are hoping donald trump might moderate, maybe not moderate but tone it down a notch, if he does, it will be because of kellyanne. >> do republicans think that's really going to happen, juana?
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are they moving towards giving up on that? >> i'm not hearing a lot of republicans saying they think it's going to happen. we've heard this before. we've been talking about this for months and months, that we might see a new donald trump, there might be a change in tone. the evidence simply hasn't borne out that fact. i think a lot of republicans are bracing to see what will happen, looking to the down ballot races and asking the question of, with trump on the top of the ticket, if he does lose, what will happen to the house, what will happen to the senate? >> what are the range of possibilities there when you're looking at congress, jackie? what are the concerns about what could happen? >> the senate, the senate, the senate. everyone is worried about the senate if you're a republican. some of these states, the vulnerable incumbents, someone like kelly ayotte who says i'm voting for donald trump but i don't support him. >> what does that mean? >> they're also trying to strike a balance by looking like
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they're not turning against their party but not going full throttle for donald trump. it was a a dangerous balance they have to walk. that's why you see republicans right now voting kind of for triage, for the rnc, saying don't help donald trump, help us keep the senate because that's what's going to happen if hillary clinton is president. >> voting for triage. jackie kucinich, juana summers, thank you so much. we've been talking about this image that is just tugging at our hearts. if you haven't seen it, this is it. it's a young boy. we understand he's about 5 years old, a young syrian boy, caught in the crossfire in the bombing of his home. left alone in shock. we've got this story next. yogurt. get moving. keep moving. i know! try laxatives. been there, done that.
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it's all too easy for many of us to lose perspective in long-running conflicts like the civil war in syria. steams it's a single picture that drives it all home. this is omran, the 5-year-old boy sitting there in an ambulance, face bloody, covered in debris. this single image captures the horrors of war faced daily by those who live in aleppo including many children. omran was pulled from the rubble after an air strike destroyed his home. he is not alone, and he's really the lucky one. the syrian observatory for human rights say more than 4,500 children have been killed in aleppo in the five years of fighting there. we are nima el bagger joining us from london. tell us about this boy who is capturing the hearts and so much emotion from people all over the world. >> he's given people a moment of
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pause, hasn't he? what we've come to expect from these images in syria is the noise, the screaming, the air bombs, barrel bombs. in the middle of all this you have the perfect stillness of this dazed child. it's almost pulled into focus everything around him in that moment. we spoke to the cameraman who took these images. he described to us how they dug for nearly an hour to try and pull omran out from the rubble of what was his home. you can only imagine being 5 years old, trapped in the dark and these voices calling on you to stay strong, to stay calm. when you see him in that footage, brianna, he still didn't know that the rest of his family had survived. his mother and his brother we understand are still in horribly critical condition because of the circumstances inside aleppo and the complete disintegration of the health care system,
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they've had to be smuggled out of aleppo to seek care. as you said, he is unbelievably one of the lucky ones, brianna. >> you just see the daez and how he realizes he's bleeding. there's a sense that a child should on the go through this. you have the eu calling for an immediate cessation of violence. tell us about that. >> reporter: russia has now amazingly indicated that they are looking towards as early as next week for what they're calling a humanitarian pause. and while a lot of those we're speaking to inside the international aid groups and inside the u.n. are hopeful that this moment, this child, this global pause that he has brought, that it will result in something tangible on the ground for not just himself and his familiarly, but their friends
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and neighbors and the hundreds of thousands that are trapped alongside aleppo. we're waiting to see if that actually does materialize. there is a sense that he has in his impassive silence, that he has pushed to open this window. we spoke to one of the doctors who was in the hospital that was treating him, and he said, yes, he is in extreme shock. this is what broke my heart. he is 5 years, he's as old as the conflict itself. this is what he knows. this is the generation of children in aleppo who are taught not to cry when they hear air strikes going on. the worry is that will draw the danger to them. as much of what you see as shock, it's also a child who has become accustomed to the realities of the horror, brianna. >> we've seen this before, too, the refugee crisis. it's the children i think that remind people of their humanity. nima el bag gir, thank you very
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the fight against isis is a contentious campaign issue right now. just this week donald trump proposed extreme vetting -- that is what he called it -- of immigrants and joint military operations abroad. u.s. defense officials say there is significant progress in taking back key territory from isis. for more we are joined now by colonel chris garber, spokesman for the anti-isis coalition in iraq. colonel, thank you so much for joining us. if you can just give us a sense of what the state of the fight is against isis right now. >> thanks, brianna. glad to be here tonight. the state of the fight against isis is that isis is getting weaker in iraq and syria, as our partners on the ground, the iraqi security forces in iraq, then the syrian democratic
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forces and our other partners in syria, as they are getting stronger. we are seeing significant progress both in iraq and syria. just recently the syrian democratic forces and the syrian arab coalition element of that seized the town of manbij which was a significant line of communication between raqqa, the self-proclaimed capital of the so-called caliphate of -- that isis holds, and the rest of the world. so that was a significant victory for the syrian democratic forces, and we are continuing to see progress like that in both iraq and syria. >> we're seeing some of that progress there on the ground. we also know that tens of thousands of isis fighters have been killed by coalition forces. but we have also seen that as isis there on the battlefield maybe struggles a little bit, is losing territory, we've seen them branch out. for instance, the airport attack in istanbul. what do you do to try to stop
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just the movement really of the threat from where you are to other soft targets abroad? >> well, clearly it is a significant problem and it is a global problem. we know that isis wants to conduct these attacks in our home towns, in our countries, no matter what's happening inside iraq an syria. but the caliphate that they have declared, the center of their own country in between where they stole pieces of iraq and stole pieces of syria, that has been a rallying cry and a sense of recruitment and inspiration for fighters, sickos, crazies around the world. we need to defeat that here in iraq and syria to take away that inspiration, then clearly there is work to be done around the globe that defeat this ideology that isis has injected into the world. >> we've seen this image of the little 5-year-old boy in aleppo. earlier this week russia said it
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was close to a deal with the u.s. and joint military action against militants in aleppo. i think a lot of people have stopped maybe paying attention to syria, but then they see something like this. they pay attention and they want to know what could be happening with this development. what can you tell us about that? >> well, the negotiations between russia and the coalition led by the united states, they are ongoing or being led by our state department and our department of defense. i don't -- we do not have an arrangement with them yet. we are conducting our operations against isil and we remain focused on isil. we have seen russians and syrian regime be focused on rebels and on doing things other than just fighting isil. so we are -- there is no deal yet. we are continuing to conduct our operations against isis. >> they say -- the russians are saying that they're targeting isis, but you don't believe that because of where they're targeting. >> that's correct.
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we think target some areas where we know there are concentrations of isis fighters, then they target areas where we don't see any isis fighters. we see that on about -- one-farther of their strikes seem to be where there are isis fighters. the majority of them are elsewhere. so we welcome those who want to fight isis and those negotiations are ongoing, but we would also look for someone to demonstrate some level of trust that they are actually trying to do that. >> russia's military for the first time launched air strikes against syrian targets, you were just talking about those targets. they've done this from a base inside of iran. the u.s. certainly disputes that isis is the target, as you mention. but other than that, what are your concerns with this cooperation with iran? >> well, our primary concern as we fight isis in both iraq and syria is the safety of our pilots and of our partner forces on the ground. we want to make sure that our
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pilots are safe which is why we have an understanding and a mechanism to call the russians call us or we call them when we are conducting operations around each other to make sure that our planes don't bump into each other, that they don't have an incident in the air. we also want them to not bomb where our coalition partners are. we've seen that happen before. so those are our main concerns as we remain focused on isis, that they keep their operations away from where we are conducting operations. >> colonel chris garber, thank so much for joining us from the region from the anti-isis coalition in iraq. that is it for me. i'm going to be back at 5:00 eastern on "the situation room." hope you will join me. for our viewers in north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right after this.
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