good evening. we begin with breaking news and a change in tone from donald trump though much remains to be seen about the substance behind what he said or what impact it may have on voters. it was in fact a different sort of donald trump than we have heard and seen so far. >> sometimes in the heat of debate and speaking on a multitude of issues, you don't choose the right words or you say the wrong thing. i have done that. and believe it or not, i regret it. and i do regret it. particularly where it may have

caused personal pain. too much is at stake for us to be consumed with these issues but one thing i can promise you this. i will always tell you the truth. aren't you tired of the same old lies and the same old broken promises? and hillary clinton has proven to be one of the greatest liars of all time. we are going to reject bigotry and i will tell you, the bigotry of hillary clinton is amazing. she sees communities of color only as votes and not as human beings worthy of a better future. it's only votes. if african-american voters give

donald trump a chance by giving me their vote, the result for them will be amazing. >> donald trump tonight in charlotte. cnn's jason carroll is there for us. the first day after trump's campaign overhaul and a different kind of speech from donald trump? >> reporter: much different. much different from what we've heard in the past and in talking to many of those who were in the room tonight, it was really well received by those in the room. one woman telling me, she said look, this wasn't just donald trump in her words, in her words, running his mouth. she said this time he had substance and he sounded more presidential. another man i spoke to said that it really seemed as if he was speaking from the heart. that direct appeal to the african-american community, you know this, we heard this before, earlier this week in west bend, wisconsin where he made that same appeal, making it here again tonight in charlotte. again, really well received.

one woman, caroline rogers, is 63 years old, she is african-american. she's never voted republican before. she was right here in the audience and she told me this is a man who finally spoke to what i have been thinking for quite a long time. anderson? >> at one point, apology is maybe a strong word, he expressed a generalized regret, saying this are things he's regretted. that is something we simply have not heard from him before. in fact, he's continually denied he has anything to regret. >> reporter: right. right. and this is as close as an apology you are probably going to get from a donald trump. again, extremely well received here in this crowd. i can't tell you how many rallies i have been to when i have heard from supporters who said repeatedly we like this man, we stand behind him but we wish he would stop putting his foot in his mouth. when i spoke to someone here about that tonight, this man told me this is exactly what he needs to do going forward. he's sounding presidential.

he's now finally admitting that he's said some things in the past he should not have said. it's time to move beyond that and stick to the issues. what we are really seeing here, though, is an attempt by the trump campaign to expand the base. that's what they need to do, they know, if they are going to pull out a win in november. >> and we have learned now what donald trump and mike pence are expecting to travel to baton rouge tomorrow? >> reporter: that is correct. remember oeven at the top of th speech, donald trump talked about the heartbreak and devastation of what's going on there in baton rouge. he said one thing that was a quote, he said we are one nation, when one state hurts, we all hurt, we must all work together. again, using that word all, one nation, trying to be inclusive, trying to bring in communities of color, trying to bring in those independents, trying to bring in the people still on the fence about donald trump and a lot of people here tonight feel as though he was successful in making that theme apparent in

his speech tonight. >> jason carroll, thanks very much. back with the panel. john king, it was interesting, we didn't hear donald trump use the term crooked hillary, when the crowd started chanting lock her up he sort of smiled but then put up his hand, wanting to move along. i guess part of his plan at least tonight. >> i would be a little careful on that point. he didn't call her crooked hillary from what i heard but he did say she was one of the world's great all time liars. >> i just meant the catch phrases. >> she lies repeatedly. he said. we will see if that continues. again, i just want to say last hour. this is one speech and one of the conversations we have had repeatedly in this campaign as we have gone through trump 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 and so on is whether he continues with discipline. this was a well-crafted speech. lot of focus on the regret line which will get a lot of attention because donald trump never says he regrets anything. the rest of the speech was

well-crafted, insider versus outsider, change versus status quo, trying to make it a referendum on clinton and obama. one quick point. the hillary clinton campaign is dismissing this, saying this is donald trump's speech writer and teleprompter. they realized he had a lot to apologize for but wasn't very specific. what is he trying to apologize for? and number two, if you go back in that phrase, there's a bit of strategic gambit by the trump campaign in it. after saying he regrets some things, he said too much is stake to be consumed by these issues. you can bet next time you try to ask him or someone in the campaign about it, they will say hey, he said he regrets this, move on. >> interesting point. how effective, i guess we will see what happens in the coming days. we have seen donald trump in previous weeks give a speech, then again, go off prompter and get himself into days of trying to explain what he meant. >> right. days of defending that he stood by what he said in the first place. i think this is one of the three

legs of the stool that have been a problem for donald trump is his speeches, the interviews with reporters and twitter. if he can sit through an interview with a reporter and not say something like that's how the whole gold star family thing blew out of control, his response to a reporter's question. if he cannot retweet something, keep all that in check, yes, this is a different sort of campaign. so far he has not been proving able to do that. >> the real question for donald trump as we think he starts to try to reach out to other communities is what does he actually have that would be helpful to communities. he talked incorrectly tonight about facts relating to the african-american community in america. that wasn't truthful. but you look at his plan, particularly his economic plan. there's a reform of the estate tax which would not help 99.8% of americans. won't help them. but if donald trump is as rich as he says and we don't know, it could end up with $4 billion

more in the trumps' pockets. his tax credit gives 60 cents on the dollar to people who have nannies but nothing to struggling working americans, many of whom are african-american who don't have child care. he has tax cuts, trillions of dollars for millionaires and billionaires, but not focused on other folks. >> you are shaking your head. >> first, that's not true. the stats he used tonight, the 58% number of african-americans being unemployed is true for african-americans 18 to 21. >> no, stop. no, no, no. politifact actually rated this as mostly false. what it takes into account are people who are in high school, college, not looking for work. if you want to say that statistic line, we are not sitting on our behinds just being unemployed. the statistic is not 58%. if you are throwing that out there you also have to throw out the fact that 49% of white americans who fit in the same category are also unemployed. >> that's certainly true. all of that's true.

>> but don't you think it's misleading to say more than 50% of -- >> the fact that democrats have promised the african-american community jobs and higher wages. >> but again, i have never heard of an unemployment rate that includes people in high school and in college. >> it's a real number. that is a real number. he got it from the bureau of labor statistics. >> the unemployment rate was 9%, double the national average. >> i don't want to focus on that. >> mr. trump wants to focus on one statistic. let me give you the other statistics he used. the fact that four in ten african-american children are in poverty. the fact there are more african-americans than white children in failing schools. a lot of that is due to democrats protecting the teachers union -- >> that is so disrespectful. >> it is. >> it is. >> let her finish. >> what's disrespectful is democrats have promised this community a lot of things for a long time and have not materialized. i guarantee if you go into the inner cities and ask people who live there are you better off

today than you were eight years ago, the answer is absolutely not. >> let me throw this out just to be pretty blunt. i'm african-american, in case we didn't know that. i live in these communities. i'm part of this community. what donald trump said today, his plea was that you know what, what else do you have to lose? it was very naive, it was very naive, it was very insulting because the fact of the matter is donald trump has no comprehension of intersectionality. the fact is you don't have the comprehension of intersectionality. people have a hard time understanding that fundamental systems in this country, the criminal justice system, the economic system, economic injustices, environmental injustic injustices, flint, michigan doesn't happen in white american. you have a corridor of shame. you have people in this country who can point out who are predisposed to have more amputations than others who are majority african-american. the systems are broken. you have people who 40, 50, 60 years ago were being broken by jim crow. >> you are making my point. >> i'm actually not making your point. let me just finish. let me actually finish.

because of the simple fact that donald trump can't comprehend that. you cannot say that someone who got sued twice by the department of justice for failure to rent to african-americans, you can't say that someone who took out a pro-death penalty piece for the central park five, you can't simply say that somebody who started the birther movement all of a sudden cares about intersectionality and african-americans. my last point because i know you want to move on, my last point is that today, something monumental happened today with criminal justice reform. the united states department of justice said we will no longer contract with private prisons. donald trump, we are talking about him weaving things in, weaving headlines in. if donald trump wants to talk to african-americans, it would be good to do it in a room full of african-americans but he couldn't begin to talk about the issues near and dear to our hearts. >> the first half of what you said just made my entire point. >> it did not. >> please, i listened for a good 45 seconds to a minute. you listed the injustices that happened to the african-american community and are you absolutely

correct. there are problems that need to be addressed. the point is this community has turned out to the tune of 96% and trusted democratic presidents for the last four decades to remedy the ill thas they face and the injustices they face. what will hillary clinton do that is different than what barack obama did to remedy the ills of this community? >> can i start? we could talk about college affordability and historically black colleges and universities. donald trump hasn't said historically black colleges and universities one time. we can talk about criminal justice reform. while donald trump is talking about law and order we are talking about having independent adjudicators. we are talking about body cameras. we are talking about ending the funding of private prisons or contracts with these private prisons and criminal justice refo reform. we are talking about investing in engineering, science, math. we are talking about these things. >> that is different from what barack obama proposed? >> he's had eight years. >> are we trying to say, with

the republican house and republican congress, but we have more african-americans that have insurance today. i'm so sick and tired of sitting here and people like to say what has barack obama done for the african-american community. tons. >> your party has failed this community. >> no. [ speaking simultaneously ] >> one point i would make is i also can't help but seem somewhat condescending to say black americans you have been voting for democrats for years, against your own best interests, you don't understand it's bad for you. >> no one's saying that. >> you just said that. you said you have been voting for decades and they chose to vote for the democrats. >> the politicians they have trusted have failed them. >> but they voted because they liked them. >> i would say the same for republican voters. i have voted for politicians for decades that have failed me. we all have. >> my question is donald trump went to detroit, spoke to a largely white audience about african-americans, did not go to any part of detroit to actually

a black church, to an inner city neighborhood. does he need to go beyond just speaking to largely white audiences about african-americans and actually go to an african-american church on a sunday and speak, or interact in some way? >> donald trump spoke to a national audience when he spoke in detroit. just last week, an african-american church actually endorsed donald trump. >> does he actually need to go to one? >> how about this. will he come to my community? will donald trump actually be seen in the communities that you are talking about, because donald trump has all of these, i wish, i want to hear what he has to say because you know what he did? i think you gave him a lot of credit by saying he spoke to african-americans. what donald trump said tonight is you have been voting for democrats, you know what, give me a chance. there's no substance. there's no there, there. >> i just want to underscore that everything barack obama let the african-american community down, let's not forget barack

obama was in his presidency working against the firm unyielding opposition of the republicans who tried to kill every advance forward. so to put that on the heels of barack obama is absolutely inaccurate and i just want to add -- >> my brother's keeper. we can go on and on and on. we can talk about african-american dropout rates. we can talk about a lot of things barack obama has done. you may not be in tune to those things. >> those are helpful. >> those are helpful issues. >> most people don't realize if they look back in history voting rights, civil rights, martin luther king holiday, all done under republican leadership. one of our party chairmen in south carolina, know what he said? he said i don't want to own the black vote, i just want to rent it for a day. we can laugh if we want. they have taken it for granted for way too long. i didn't misstate that. you check the facts. it's appalling that it continues to be this issue where they don't think republicans look after them. they do. i was a republican. >> but wasn't that part of the whole autopsy of the last election, that the republican

party was going to reach out, they were going to make more inroads in the african-american community and donald trump, other than hiring omarosa to be his community outreach -- [ speaking simultaneously ] >> donald trump, when he is saying politicians have failed you, african-american community, he also failed me. they failed me. i voted to empower republican politicians that did not do what they told me they were going to do when they went to washington. his message is not just about hispanics or african-americans, it's about all americans. politicians have failed us. barack obama has failed us. >> we have to go to break. >> there's nothing in donald trump's rhetoric from, you know, not paying small business people, many of them who were people of color, from not supporting a greater effort around free college education, for being completely all over the place and saying we don't need an increased minimum wage. there's nothing he said that speaks to the needs of low income communities which are

mostly communities of color and i find it incredibly offensive for him to basically say you have nothing to lose. i work a lot with women of color who are homeless and even though they don't are a hohave a home, me, they have a lot to lose if things get worse for them. a lot. i find it offensive just because somebody is of color and perhaps low income they have nothing else in their lives. that's what he said. >> we have to take a quick break. up next, donald trump putting $4 million of ad money into a string of key states. his first big buy of the campaign. question is will it buy the results he needs? john king breaks it down. yet up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's gummies. complete with key nutrients plus b vitamins to help convert food into fuel. one a day.

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if you live in florida, pennsylvania, north carolina or ohio, get ready for a trump blitz on your television starting this weekend. donald trump has started buying ad times in those states with virginia also in the works. $4 million of ad time so far. the question is whether that will translate into votes in some states where he's lagging behind hillary clinton. inside politics anchor john king is back to break it down by the numbers. the states that trump is focusing on are basically traditional battleground states, right? >> they are. nothing novel about this strategy. it does underscore the narrow window that donald trump has. he has fewer choices than hillary clinton does. she wants to keep this map. this is 2012 obama/romney. donald trump has to change some. let's focus on the states you mentioned. florida, put one circle around virginia and north carolina and one circle around ohio and its neighbor, pennsylvania. they are traditional presidential battlegrounds. we talk about them every four years. let me show you why. this is 2012. obama wins four of the five.

romney won north carolina. 2008, obama wins five of the five. wins a big margin. 2004, last time a republican won the white house, george w. bush won four of those five. so those five states are your biggest traditional battlegrounds and hillary clinton has so many advantages in the electoral map in 2016, donald trump wants the big prizes, 29 votes here, electoral college, 20 votes there. he's going for the big prizes. >> what's the state of play in those states? >> donald trump probably needs to win four of these five. look right now, hillary clinton up four on average. this is the real clear politics average, up four in florida, two in ohio, four in north carolina, 11 in virginia and nine in pennsylvania. it's a steep hill for donald trump. let me quickly switch maps and show you. remember, the states where it was narrow. this is where we have the race right now. 236 for clinton, 191 for trump. it was pretty close in florida, right? so if donald trump can stay disciplined, we saw an example of trying that tonight, florida was pretty close.

if he can get florida, north carolina was for romney, pretty close right now. if he can get north carolina, ohio's pretty close right now, it is the state republicans always need to win, there's three of those five states. if donald trump could win those three, they are the easiest. i will put that in quotes. this is not an easy lift. he's behind. they are the more conservative, more republican states. if he can get those three it gets him to 253 and this is where it gets extra hard. virginia, that's where hillary clinton's running mate is from. she's up 11 points right now. pennsylvania, she's up nine or ten points there, hasn't voted republican since 1988. so donald trump, smart to pick those five states but even if he can get the three easiest, still got a lift after that. >> the tv ads they are starting to roll out, they are a little late to the game, aren't they? >> a little late to the game and also not spending a ton of money just yet, but this is something republicans have been urging trump to do. you mentioned even though they list these five states, ohio, pennsylvania, virginia, north carolina and florida, they haven't bought any time in virginia yet. watch that one. there are a lot of republicans who think that might actually be

out of reach because of the tim kaine selection, because of the democratic shifts in virginia. let's see if they actually buy ad time there or if they go for florida, north carolina, pennsylvania, ohio, and then start looking elsewhere for the rest of the votes, places like iowa, nevada is surprisingly close right now. keep an eye on virginia to see if they actually, they said they will invest there. let's see if they do. >> john, thanks very much. late reaction to donald trump's speech from some people in the crowd. later, breaking news from the clinton campaign. big changes in what's become a punching bag for republicans, the clinton foundation. gary, gary, gary... i am proud of you, my man. making simple, smart cash back choices... with quicksilver from capital one. you're earning unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. like on that new laptop.

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donald trump's speech tonight certainly got our panel talking. the question now, what did the crowd tonight in charlotte think of what they heard and the campaign shakeup that preceded it. gary tuchman reports. >> make america great again. >> reporter: changes in the trump campaign leadership, but no changes in the festive mood of people waiting to get into a trump rally. how long have you been a trump supporter? >> since day one. >> i always liked donald trump. i always said he should run for years. >> nothing's going to change my mind. i'm voting for trump. >> reporter: but those comments here in north carolina don't mean all the supporters think

his campaign has been flawless. on the contrary. >> he needs to kind of think about things before he says them. because i know what he means but sometimes it comes out the wrong way. >> reporter: you think that he's giving himself some self-inflicted wounds? >> yeah. i think so. i think that he would be in a lot better shape in the polls if he would just kind of think about things before he says them. >> reporter: some people are saying this is a shakeup of a troubled campaign. the trump campaign is saying no, we are just adding people. what do you think? >> you know, i don't think it's a shakeup, maybe, but i think it's a good thing. even politicians, even the president, i think he should be open to new ideas. new approaches. >> reporter: donald trump has declared i am who i am, but if he is who he is, what do his supporters think about who he was and who he will be? this is a common sentiment. >> every day you're going to see more and more change and you're going to see him getting better at what he's doing. he was already good enough when he was off the cuff that many

months ago and knocked out 16 supposedly smartest republicans has ever run. >> reporter: when it comes down to it, most of the people we talked to had this advice for trump's new campaign gurus. let trump be trump. >> i think he'll come back to be more of himself, little more unplugged. >> i would rather see him say what's on his mind rather than read from a teleprompter. >> i believe he needs to be more aggressive. >> reporter: do you think trump needs to be more aggressive in days to come on the campaign tra trail? >> yes. >> reporter: what should he be doing? >> nailing hillary on her facts and her truths which she don't have none. >> what do people in the crowd say about his comments about regret? think we just lost you. oh, well. we have a lot more ahead tonight. fascinating developments obviously out of brazil. a night full of breaking news. here is even more breaking news. more from brazil. the clinton foundation says it won't accept foreign or corporate donations if hillary

is elected. bill clinton won't give any more paid speeches. his last was in november. since leaving the white house he has given 644 paid speeches for a total of $133.7 million. joining us with that story, cnn's joe johns with the details. first, the clinton foundation, what does this mean, both short term and long term, they will no longer accept foreign and corporate donations if hillary clinton wins? >> reporter: right. it means a lot of changes. clearly part of the concern here is about the appearance of cronyism and conflicts and how to avoid them if hillary clinton is elected. so they say no foreign donations to the foundation if she wins, no corporate donations, and part of this is spurred by concerns about even the suggestion of pay to play arrangements between the state department and the foundation. the clinton camp has been forced to issue denials about big money donors trying to get access but there's more to this. the upcoming meeting of the clinton global initiative in new york next month is to be the

last cgi brought together leaders from all over the world to talk about solutions to sometimes intractable problems and it also appears bill clinton himself is taking on some of the same burden, too. a spokesman says he won't do paid speeches if his wife is elected and by the way, he hasn't given a paid speech since november of last year and says he won't give any between now and election day. >> what i don't get about this, she was secretary of state, they were accepting foreign donations, they claimed there was no problem with that then. now they're saying when she's president they are not going to do it. certainly raises questions, i guess it's the appearance of impropriety but you would think they might have thought of what thank when she was secretary of state. the rnc was quick to attack her on the announcement. >> reporter: it's an understanding they are vulnerable. reince priebus, the rnc chair, continuing with the republican line of attack that there still is something suspicious here linking it directly to hillary clinton because she's running

for president. he put out a statement asking if everything was above board when hillary clinton ran the state department as the clintons have said, then why change a thing. but now that they have admitted there's a problem, the clinton foundation should immediately cease accepting foreign donations and return every penny ever taken from other countries. so republicans definitely see an issue here and they continue to raise the question of conflict of interest at the very least. >> joe johns, thanks. brand new development in the ryan lochte saga. two of the three other swimmers detained in rio are on their way home. late developments next. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here.

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new details continuing to emerge in the olympic size controversy involving ryan lochte and three other swimmers from team usa. what we know, in the past few minutes we found out two of the swimmers are at the airport getting ready to leave after spending hours with police this afternoon. lochte beat them out of brazil. he's already back in the united states. brazilian police say lochte and three other swimmers were not robbed at gun point as lochte

said. they were actually caught van vandalizing a gas station. lochte was drunk' and belligerent. new questions about what happens next to lochte and his teammates. our senior international correspondent nic paton walsh is in rio. local police say there was no robbery. what's the latest? >> reporter: yes. but at the same time, too, we are hearing from sources close to the four swimmers who say they have spoken to all the men and actually are focusing on what they say is a three-minutes hole in the time codes in the footage from that gas station in which they suggest may be the moment the man who seems to be a security guard leaning into the car may have used a firearm to pressure them to give over money. that's why this was a robbery in their mind and they say the cctv corroborates lochte's original story. i have to say we have been through the footage ourselves and it is complete, there doesn't appear to be a three-minute hole anywhere. but it is hard to tell exactly what moment you can visibly see some sort of firearm. it doesn't provide an open and shut case backing up as far as

we can see ryan lochte's situation. but now we have got these two very juxtaposed stories. brazilian police saying they were drunk, vandals, actually sources close to the swimmers accept they did urinate behind the building, maybe took a poster off a wall. the stories aren't too far apart. they just diverge what happened in the taxi, whether or not money was taken off them and they were threatened with security guards. that's key here. now we only have james feigen likely somewhere in brazil. he was talking to police at an undisclosed location in the past three hours. three of the four are out of town and police suggesting they are not about to imminently press charges. one policeman saying it wasn't really a crime. we are just dealing with an international sized embarrassment frankly for probably the swimmers, too, but also brazil. this was to some degree an episode they really would have preferred to have avoided. now they are caught in some weird public battle between very high profile american athletes and their own public image on one side they are trying to

defend. >> the one swimmer who is still going to be there because the two we are told are about to board a flight out of there, does the brazilian authorities still have his passport, do we know? >> reporter: at this stage, yes, i believe that was requested by the search and seizure warrants and the two men who are leaving presumably have got their passports back because they were taken off them last night when they tried to leave the country for the first time. we don't know if they are going to be successful trying to leave the country tonight but i can't imagine after meeting the police today they are necessarily going to try leaving without being assured they will be okay. still, there is this strange moment here for brazil where the commonness of street crime here seemed to have had a very high profile victim, then his story didn't stand up to a lot of scrutiny. he's got a lot of very strong representatives saying actually this was still armed robbery with people dressed as police. but still, we are left with a very confusing picture. embarrassing moment for everyone concerned. >> no doubt about it. thank you. lochte is already back in the u.s.

martin savidge joins me from charlotte, north carolina. has anyone seen or heard from lochte since he arrived back home? i understand he was on twitter? >> reporter: right. he has been seen on social media and sources tell us he probably took the overnight flight similar to what the athletes are taking tonight only he would have taken it on tuesday, arriving here in charlotte where he lives early wednesday morning. but since that time, it appears he has been keeping an extremely low profile. we are outside i guess you should say of the neighborhood where he lives. it's a gated community so we can't get inside. we actually were able to get in for a time and knock on the door. we didn't get any answer. his car has been seen by people here a couple of times. it's a very distinctive car. a black rolls royce. no one could tell if he was actually inside. many here would like to hear his side of the story, as would we. >> have you talked to neighbors at all? does he have a lot of support there? what are people saying about it? >> reporter: two kind of themes you get from neighbors here which is one, i don't want to

talk to the media or you find there are others who have been following this saga very closely and have been following their neighbor very closely, actually, for some time. he's lived in this subdivision for about six to eight months. though one woman who we were talking to that had seen him said that the last time she saw him was a couple of weeks ago so before the olympics, he was out walking his dog and otherwise, though, he's said to be a regular fixture inside the neighborhood here. >> he has had some minor run-ins with the law, is that right? >> reporter: he has. yes. and you will kind of understanding they may sort of fit a pattern going back to 2005. now, this is his college years and it's gainesville, florida but he was arrested then for trespassing and public urination. 2010, he was cited for disorderly conduct. so you know, not major crimes but they do kind of seem fitting a pattern at least what we are hearing from some out there in rio. >> martin, thanks very much.

lochte and other swimmers could find themselves in some legal hot water over this. joining me are cnn legal analyst, criminal defense attorneys mark geragos and danny cevallas. the police chief is saying they will decide whether or not to indict at the end of the investigation. if they are indicted what could they end up facing, particularly if they have all left the country? >> well, they would have to go through the extradition process which is not easy and i would be very surprised if brazil wants this story to keep going on or keep going, so to speak. one of the problems with this is people, they can downplay what happened in terms of that lochte gave or all four of them gave stories that don't quite comport but the fact remains even in any civilized city when someone puts a gun in your face and is wearing a uniform and you are starting to talk about money, that's not extortion. that's a robbery virtually

anywhere. i'm not so sure that this is as much of a supposed lie or anything else as everybody's making it out to be. if he is admittedly under the influence of something, if he's sitting in a cab, if he doesn't realize at the time that the security guard is pointing the gun at him and telling him to give him money and that that's in connection with if you believe it public urination, i don't know that he's making the connection, i don't know that that's not a robbery, so i'm not so sure that there's anything to indict him over. >> danny? do you see this as i guess a potential robbery? if there was a security guard who pulled a gun, and they didn't understand what was going on? >> today after the brazilian authorities gave a press conference i found it funny -- >> which was a confusing press conference. >> very confusing. lost in translation and sort of the subject matter itself. but after that press conference, i felt like there were a lot of voices out there saying oh, well, now we know what happened. here in america, we don't take

what the police say at a press conference or in an allegation or an indictment as gospel, as evidence against the defendant. so we certainly shouldn't do it in the case of brazilian authorities, who we have to believe are somewhat inclined to believe the brazilian side of the story. the other thing i found really troubling, brazilian authorities said today there was no robbery. but they also acknowledged in the same breath that there may have been an instance where somebody demanded money and pointed a gun at the swimmers. here in america, we have a definition for that. it's robbery. i mean, that's what i found so disingenuous about that press conference. they were saying one thing and really, if they weren't ruling out the possibility that by any legal definition at least here in the united states, those swimmers may have been robbed. >> you know, mark, you have -- >> i will tell you -- >> go ahead. >> i was just going to say, and the other thing is you have to take this with a grain of salt.

remember, they don't necessarily have the same presumptions that we do here, and you have got -- this is an inquisitorial system where the judge is driving it and there is almost the presumption of guilt, plus they were motivated by the fact they didn't like the publicity of a robbery taking place in brazil during the olympics. there's a focus there. there was always the concern going into the olympics that there was crime and crime was rampant. you have to, echoing danny, take this with a grain of salt. this is not one of these things where you can say oh, he just lied, he made it up. >> i can tell you, having spent a lot of time in brazil, i have been pulled over by brazilian police. i was strip searched on the side of the road by brazilian police. the same rules do not definitely apply with brazilian police as police officers here. nothing was found, by the way. i hadn't actually done anything wrong. >> wish we had that on video. >> no one wants to see that. believe me. >> where's the body camera for that one? >> mark, you -- >> i want to see the body cam of you stripping down on the side

of the road. >> i shouldn't have mentioned it. mark, you represent a lot of high profile clients. there's a legal aspect and then for ryan lochte, certainly, there's the issue of his sponsorships and stuff which if he's driving around in a rolls royce i assume he makes a certain amount of money from sponsorships. what would you advise him? should he just apologize? should the other swimmers apologize for whatever the miscommunication was and move on? or just stay silent? >> right. this is -- it's a great question, because you have got something here where it is a perfect example of the intersection between crisis management and legal jeopardy. this is one of the biggest problems as a criminal defense lawyer when you're representing somebody in a high profile case that you have to deal with. here, he doesn't want to acknowledge, no matter what the agent or anybody else is telling you, you don't want to get in there and say yeah, i lied or anything else because you expose yourself to legal jeopardy. at the same time, endorsements for these, guys, it's not like there's a professional swimming

team out there that's going to pay him the millions or tens of millions of dollars and next to michael phelps he's probably the second most marketable swimmer around from the male standpoint, at least. so he's got $10 million or $20 million immediately that is in the kind of in play. one of the things you're going to do is craft something or doing negotiating with the authorities down there to say if there isn't a mutual way to save face for them, because they're invested now after that press conference, which i know you guys said that it was confusing. i think that's charitable. i think it was absolutely bizarre. >> i get why brazilian authorities and people in brazil are offended by this, because ryan lochte is essentially playing into all the stereo types about brazil. i'm a big fan of the place. we got to leave it there. a heartbreaking image from syria about a boy who has grown up knowing only war.

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war. a little boy sitting in an ambulance, tears on his face. five years ago his family and many other syrians are wondering if peace will ever return. >> the images of this little boy are so heart breaking. what do we know about him so far? >> we actually managed to speak to the cameraman who shot that footage. he was part of the rescue operation to bring the boy and his family out from under that rubble. it took them nearly an hour. that little boy was under the rubble of his home, the wreckage of what had been his home for almost an hour alone. and even then, anderson, he didn't cry. he didn't cry when they pulled him out. he watched hmm sit in that ambulance still not crying, even though in those images you're seeing, he still doesn't know if his mother and his two siblings, his brother and his sister, if they're alive and what the

cameraman told us was really so heartbreaking, he said to me, you could tell he was traumatized but it's also that he's 5 years old. this is all he's known. this is what we tell our children when the planes go overhead. we tell them not to cry and it seems that this little boy, this is a lesson he's really learned, anderson. >> he, as you said, he's 5 years old -- i guess around 5 years old, almost as old as the war itself. this is all he's ever really known. >> yeah. this is. and the fact that he and another image that arrested the world last year, that they are children of the conflict, this boy would have been 4 years old this year, and for a child's response when he touches his face and comes away with blood to just silent live wipe that away, it was just piercing. >> do we know what has happened to his family? >> his mother and his brother

are very critically injured and it is the reality of the complete deterioration and disintegration effectively of the health care system, the health care infrastructure in aleppo. they can't be smuggled out, taken elsewhere to continue to try and get them the medical care they need. they're pretty critically injured but his sister, we understand, is doing a bit better and this boy himself amazingly, he had to have stitches, which even then the doctor who treated him told us he did not cry through. he had to have stitches but he's now been released to his family. >> people have responded to these images of him as they have in the past but the fact is more than 4,500 kid have died in this area in northern syria and countless others have died as well and much of the world hasn't paid attention. >> and even when they do, even when we do think it is a moment

when the world pauses, it's very quick for us to return to business as usual. this was what the cameraman told us, did you know this is something the world would notice? he said this boy and thousands of others exist. he said this is a moment we relive again and again in aleppo and the heart breaking thing is they no longer trust these moments will change anything in terms of their reality on the ground. >> of course why would they. thank you so. we'll have more ahead. we'll be right back. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy.

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