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his stance on deporting undocumented immigrants. his campaign manager says the plan to get rid of 11 million people is now quote to be determined. >> this is a pivot or a flip flop? it it comes on his core campaign issue, immigration. we're going to speak to trump's running mate, governor mike pence, later in this half hour. we have every angle covered, starting this morning in washington. >> reporter: good morning to you, john. this would potentially be a big reversal for donald trump. his hard line stance on immigration is one of the defining, core issues of his campaign. trump is now preparing to make a major policy address this week on immigration. there are now some indications his positions could be changing. donald trump's campaign signaling a possible softening of his controversial position on the force deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants.
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>> they will go out. they will come back. some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> reporter: trump's hard line stance a signature issue of his campaign since the beginning. now his new campaign manager indicating that policy is not set in stone. >> let me play something from what mr. trump has said previously. listen to what he said back in november. >> we're going to have a deportation force. you're going to do it ripped ou how? >> if they came from a certain country, they're going to go back. >> will that plan include a deportation force, the kind you just heard about in that sound bite and that he talked about during the republican primaries? >> to be determined. >> reporter: key trump surrogate senator jeff sessions confirming that trump is wrestling with the issue after a meeting with hispanic advisers on sunday ahead of a big policy speech later this week. >> he listened to a lot of people. i don't think he made any
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commitments. he's thinking that through. i think that's the right thing. this potential shift coming as trump attempts to broaden his appeal among african-american voters. >> i've asked the african-american community to honor me with their vote. you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: polls show he's way behind in the key voting bloc. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. look at my african-american over here. this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall, okay. >> reporter: trump's now more muted, scripted style reserved for policy, not for his opponent, hillary clinton. >> she will never be a i believe to fix the isis problem that her
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policies created. for one thing, she doesn't have the strength or the stamina. >> reporter: all this as trump and his surrogates continue to raise unsubstantiated questions about hillary clinton's health. >> go online, type in hillary clinton illness, and look for yourself. >> reporter: sources tell cnn a top strategist will be doing some work each week out of trump headquarters. this is an important note considering the broader campaign shake-up we saw last week. >> sunlen, thanks so much for all of that reporting. let's bring in our political panel to discuss it. cnn political analyst, alex burns. "washington post" political reporter, philip bump. and reporter for "the daily beast," jackie kucinich. for a year, donald trump has
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been saying he will deport every single undocumented immigrant. and just to remind ourselves how strongly and vociferously he said that, watch this compilation. >> we're rounding them up in a very humane way and nice way. they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. by the way, i know it doesn't sound nice, but not everything is nice. they're going back where they came. if they came from a certain country, they're going to be brought back to that country. that's the way it's supposed to be. now, they can come back, but they have to come back legally. they will go out, they will come back, some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> alex, this was one of the tenants of his campaign. how can he change his tune? >> i don't know if he can. it's standard for republicans running for president to run to the right during the primary and try to moderate their tone during the general election.
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we saw mitt romney do it. it's really, really tough to adjust course on something that has been essentially the foundational issue of your entire candidacy. when your pledge is not just some sort of broad brush argument about we need to be tougher, but when you've said really specific things like we're building a wall, mexico is going to pay for it, we're going to deport these people, it's very, very tough to get away from all that. >> you know, and it's not like, phil, that he's appealing to the hispanic vote here. donald trump, i think, knows there's a ceiling there at some point. but he could be trying to appeal to whom here exactly. is this the college educated white voters where he's been underperforming? >> yeah, i think that's probably the safest bet. the reason he's trailing in the polls is because republicans are softer on his candidacy that democrats are on hillary clinton's. he needs to be able to convince those more moderate republicans that he's an acceptable candidate for president. one way to do that, we saw him over the weekend talk about reaching out to the black community. i think this may be, if he ends up moderating it, which we don't know if he's going to, i think
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it is an appeal to that core group of republicans who right now are kind of iffy on him as a canada t candidate. >> jackie, it does sound like he's trying to win over some hispanics. we got information he was softening his rhetoric and saying, well, we might not be deporting everybody. then this thursday, i believe, he has a speech he's scheduled to do in colorado on his immigration policy. so what is the strategy here in terms of who he's trying to win over versus who he might alienate? >> it wouldn't be the first time that donald trump has said one thing behind closed doors and said something else out in the open, in public. so there seems to be a lot of confusion coming out of this meeting about what he said in terms of whether he said there might be some wiggle room in terms of the deportation force. you had some of the leaders coming out saying that. then you had a trump spokesman say that nothing has changed and
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absolutely everything is on track for what he said. then you add kellyanne conway in these interviews yesterday saying it's to be determined. it sounds like that speech on thursday is still coming together. we'll have to wait and see where they end up after all of these sort of back and forth in the press. >> you know, also, it's interesting. i remember the primaries. they weren't that long ago. this is exactly what some of the people running against donald trump said he would do. they said he doesn't have any convictions, he's not a traditional republican in that sense. he doesn't believe what we believe. he's going to flip-flop on everything. here on his main issue, it appears even on this he may not have the courage of his conviction. >> when you look at his actual immigration policies, it's not like he has put out some really extensive plan that he talks about in detail and has defended on the substantive merits. he has a couple bullet points he talks about. and he has build the wall and get mexico to pay for it. outside of that, he's not jeff
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sessions, who could give a 45-minute speech on the mechanics of immigration policy. this is what has bothered a lot of republicans, a lot of very conservative republicans are, about trump from the start. it's a guy who believes in everything and nothing at the same time. he'll tell you what you want to hear. i do think that on the wall, on mass deportation, those are maybe partial exceptions. these are issues where he hash totally unequivocal for the entire duration of his candidacy. if that changes now, that's a giant shift in the campaign and one that may actually, i think, have more potential to alienate his core supporters than to win over the folks who currently don't like him. >> phil, let's talk about what he said on friday night. what he said was an appeal to black voters. so let me just play for you his language friday night. >> what do you have to lose? look, what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed.
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what the hell do you have to lose? >> how'd that go over, phil? >> well, we'll see how it went over. you know, i think the pitch he made, that 58% number, is just flatly not correct. >> 58% of african-american youth is not unemployed. it is a much lower number. the bureau of statistics says it's 14.5%. >> he's counting things like high school and college students. his core appeal was, what do you have to lose, all these things are going wrong, you're all living in poverty, you're all living in inner cities, which also is not true. it's not the case most african-americans live in poverty. he talked about the black community in a way i find it hard to believe the black community is going to find particularly appealing. again, i suspect this was, in part, trying to give republicans space who are soft on him and say, oh, look, he's making overtures to the hispanic community. we'll see in the polling. >> jackie, i want to ask you one thing about the clinton campaign, about colin powell,
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who's not running for president. he was caught up with over the weekend. he was asked about hillary clinton's contention, which we learned about last week. she claims it was colin powell who told her to use the private e-mail server. he said it happened at a party with madeline albright. this is what he said at a fundraiser. he said, her people have been trying to pin it on me. the truth is, she was using the private e-mail server for a year before i sent her a memo telling her what i did. i thought it was interesting that colin powell, going out of his way, to create distance with hillary clinton. i know a lot of people have been wondering, you know, where does colin powell stand on this entire election. >> you know, that could not have been appreciated to have colin powell brought into this. bottom line is one thing -- i know hillary clinton has apologized for using two e-mails. she said she could have done better. she still hasn't taken full
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responsibility. the buck stops here. she keeps on saying people recommended it to her. until that happens, you're going to see things like this. the fact that we saw early on that colin powell, his people, said that he didn't remember the conversation, so you had to see this coming a little bit. they want absolutely nothing to do with this. and you have to wonder, is this going to get him to an endorsement later on. i don't know. he didn't seem very happy there to be involved. >> no, he did endorse barack obama twice. it is notable right now, his silence on this election. a lot of people associated with him have said they would never vote for donald trump. >> panel, stick around. thank you very much. >> houwever, we would like to ak the senior people in the clinton campaign about this. it's been several weeks since they've provided us with any senior level campaign person. we want them here to talk about the election. come on, guys. >> in just a moment, you're also going to see my one-on-one interview with trump's running
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mate, governor mike pence. we were at the iowa state fair account to. he had a lot of interesting things to say. >> all right. the olympics. you can see them on tape delay sometime soon. team usa dominated the games as they came to a close in rio. the u.s. clinched the most medals. still, the event did have some controversy. ryan lochte made a stunning admission after a week of a lot of not stunning admissions. n sports anchorrio. >> reporter: good morning, guys. a lot of negativity, as we know, coming into these rio games. there are negatives that certainly exist here, but it is certainly safe to say it was the athletes and their performances stealing the show here in rio. we got to witness some of the greatest athletes the world has ever seen. michael phelps, simone biles, usain bolt. an incredible celebration last night at the closing ceremony. brazil won the most medals in their nation's history. soccer is like religion here. they won their first ever olympic gold here for brazil.
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a huge samba party to cap it all off last night. simone biles, the four-time gold winning superstar, was carrying the american flag for team usa. i got to spend some time with her here in rio. she is humble. she is kind. just as dynamic off the floor as she is on it. so incredible representative for the states. now, there were some events yesterday too. i got to go to that gold medal match, the final gold medal being handed out in the games. usa men's basketball serving it to serbia. 30-point victory margin there, earning their third straight gold for the u.s. the country of mongolia's wrestling coaches getting so mad they take their clothes off, disputing what they thought was a bad call by a referee. one takes his shirt off down to his underwear, starts lying on the mat. they're throwing clothing at the judges in protest. the crowd chanting. yes, good moment indeed.
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the biggest distraction of this year's games, ryan lochte. he issued that written apology for his role in the gas station incident, which turned into a full-blown international incident last week. lochte talked to nbc's matt lauer, which aired saturday night. lochte admitted that he did not tell the truth. >> you said at some point after you refused to sit down, the security guard put the gun to your forehead and cocked it. that didn't happen. >> that didn't happen. and that's why i overexaggerated that part. >> why'd you do that? >> i don't know why. you know, it was still hours after the incident happened. i was still intoxicated. i was still under that influence. and i'm not making me being intoxicated an excuse. i'm not doing that at all. it was my fault. >> reporter: now, alisyn, the first ever south american olympic games have come to an end. the skies are weeping here in
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rio, but what a wonderful experience this was. it's been a complete joy to bring these stories from the games. >> the landscape does look dramatic, much like some of the stories, coy. thanks so much for giving us all of the highlights. all right. donald trump reaching out to minority voters. is he taking the right approach to broaden his appeal? we will ask trump's running mate about that. watch my one on one with mike pence next. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? my job at exxonmobil? turning algae into biofuels. reducing energy poverty in the developing world. making cars go further with less. fueling the global economy. and you thought we just made the gas. ♪ energy lives here.
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donald trump's running mate, indiana governor mike pence, crisscrossing the country with a campaign style that's very different to trump's often combative demeanor. i caught up with governor pence at the iowa state fair, where lots of people lined up to see the man that might be the next vice president. >> look at everybody waving to you. that feels good. >> oh, it's wonderful. wonderful, warm reception here. donald trump will be back here in a week. we'll be campaigning hard across all this country and all across iowa. >> so let's start with some of the latest headlines. on friday night donald trump was in michigan, as you know. he was making an appeal to african-american voters.
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>> sure. >> and he used some language and messaging that some people have taken umbrage with. i'll read some of it to you. he said, you're living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs, you have 58% youth unemployment, what the hell do you have to lose? that was an appeal to vote for the trump/pence ticket. what do you think of that message? >> well, it was such an honor for me to be with donald trump earlier in the day as we toured neighborhoods devastated by the flooding in baton rouge. i saw this broad shouldered leader and his profound compassion for the hurting families of louisiana. and i think that message and other messages all come from the fact that we believe we can do better for every american. we can get this economy moving again. democratic policies have
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resulted in failing schools and unsafe areas. he really believes, and i agree with him, that by getting this economy going again, lowering taxes, getting trade deals that work for americans, and by expanding school choice for every american that, we can get these cities working, we can get america working again. >> when he was talking about inner city blacks and the unemployment rate there, he used a number that was higher than what the bureau of labor statistics said. he said 58% of black youth are unemployed. the bureau of labor statistics says it's 14.5. put that aside. what specifically will he do for inner city blacks? >> we're going to change the direction of this country from 7 1/2 years of policies that have seen 7 million more americans living below the poverty line than when barack obama became president of the united states. look, donald trump and i believe that we need to bring real
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change to this country. that's not going to happen unless we change the leadership. hillary clinton is essentially running for barack obama's third term. she's advocating more taxes, more spending, more regulation, exactly the kind of things that have resulted in the slowest economic recovery since the great depression. donald trump and i believe that what worked back in the 1980s, less taxes, less regulation, making the right investments and infrastructure, is going to create a growing american economy, and that's going to lift opportunities for people to live in our cities. >> specifically for the inner city, are there things you can say to black voters right now that are living there that -- how they would get jobs that currently aren't available? >> well, i think by promoting something different than what hillary clinton's advocating, which is more taxes, more regulation, more obamacare, we're going to lift the fortunes of job creators it all across america. the reality is the majority of
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jobs that are always created in this country are created by small business owners. hillary clinton's plan to raise taxes and hillary clinton's plan to increase regulation is going to continue to stifle growth in this economy like we've seen for the last 7 1/2 years. >> so in terms of the language that he used on friday night, you were okay with it, the you're living in poverty, you have no jobs, what the hell do you have to lose. you were okay with it being that blunt of a message? >> well, look, donald trump is not an experienced politician who carefully selects his words and speaks right from his heart, right from his mind. what you heard this week is a leader who is determined to make america great for everyone in this country. i think you're going to continue to see this campaign in the days and weeks ahead speak directly to americans in every community about what our plan to make america great again is going to mean for them, mean for their
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families. >> let's talk about some of the changes that have been happening in the campaign. paul manafort out, steve bannon now the ceo, kellyanne conway now the campaign manager. what do you think of those changes? >> i think there's always a time, as you approach labor day, where campaigns, you know, evolve and change and have additions. i expect that to continue to be evidence of a campaign that's on a roll. i mean, you look at this last week, donald trump laid out a compelling vision for confronting radical islamic terrorism. he laid out a message for law and order in every community in the state. he showed his mind and he showed his heart, both in his speech on thursday night and in the compassionate way he visited with hurting families in louisiana. i think these changes are just all part and parcel of seeing this campaign come together. look, the race is on. this is going to be a competitive race all the way to the end, but i truly do believe we've got the right candidate, we got the right message, and
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this movement is going to carry donald trump all the way to the white house. >> were you consulted about the staff changes? >> donald trump and i talk every day. we'll keep those conversations private. >> you supported the change of paul manafort out and steve bannon now at the top? >> i'm grateful for the job that paul manafort did for the campaign, both in primaries and through the convention. i fully support -- the man that is running this campaign is now and always has been donald trump. i couldn't be more honored to be standing shoulder to shoulder with him. >> what would you say was the problem with paul manafort's leadership? >> i think paul manafort made a decision to step down so there wouldn't be any distractions. >> all right. let's bring back our political panel to react to that interview. we have more coming up. alex, let's just start with what his prescription is for the inner cities. he said, you know, we're going to go back to the 1980s, cut
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taxes, less regulation, put people back to work again. yeah, problem solved. no, i think you really saw the limits in that interview of what mike pence can do to pitch his ticket to voters who feel alienated by donald trump. if you're mike pence and you have a basically conventional republican orientation towards how to create opportunity, how to create economic growth, it's really, really hard to deliver that message with any level of specificity when you're working around a guy at the top of the ticket who's as offensive to nonwhite constituencies as donald trump is. even to give mike pence his due, when he's out there saying things like we can't afford eight more years of obamacare, that is not a way, actually, to win black voters. if you pitch black voters, hispanic voters a lot of white, urban moderates on the idea of four more years of barack obama, barack obama's currently the most popular national politician in the country. so i think you're seeing both of these guys kind of struggle with
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how to deliver something resembling a conventional message in a very unconventional election year. >> i'm always struck by how relentlessly on message mike pence is. that's a guy who sticks to his script better than anyone i've seen. jackie, the script this weekend for the trump campaign was things are great. things have never been better. kellyanne conway tweeted this week, best week ever. it remind me of like a baseball team that wins one game and says we're on a giant winning streak. but that's the message he wants to send right now about the trump campaign. >> yeah, and alex is absolutely right. mike pence is really good at being on message. you noticed every single time alisyn asked him a question he didn't want to answer, he brought it back to how much he loves campaigning with donald trump or why hillary clinton is wrong for this. i think that's one of the reasons he was brought on to the ticket, because mike pence is extremely disciplined.
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the one comment about the 1980s i want to point out is he's been saying trump is the campaign of the future and hillary is the campaign of the past. that runs counter to what donald trump has been saying. other than that, that really was classic mike pence. >> all right, panel. stick around. we have many more questions for you. you can also watch more of my interview with mike pence next hour. we talk more about the shake-up in the trump campaign as well as the issues and where he and donald trump diverge and how they come to see eye to eye on some things. >> that'll be interesting. all right. dozens of people killed by a suicide bomber at a wedding in turkey. this could be the work of isis. the incident just especially horrifying because of the age of the attacker. we have a live report from the scene next. ♪ is it a force of nature? or a sales event?
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terribly tragic story to tell you about. the death toll in the suicide bombing of a wedding party in turkey now up to at least 53 people. the country's president telling reporters that he believes isis is to blame for the attack, and that the attacker was only 12 to 14 years old. cnn's senior international correspondent is live in turkey
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with the latest. what have you learned, ben? >> reporter: well, yes, in addition to what the president said about the age of the bomber, we don't know whether it was a boy or a girl. we also know that investigators were able to find pieces of the suicide vest at the bomb site. now, in addition to the rising death toll, now up to 53, we heard this morning from a turkish official that 22 of the victims are under the age of 14. so this really was a horrific event on so many different levels. it's not the first time isis, if isis was involved as turkish officials say, has used a child suicide bombers. in march there was a similar attack where a child went to a football game in a town outside of baghdad, blew himself up, killing dozens of children roughly his age. of course, isis does have this notorious unit called the cub of
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the caliphates. these are people who are trained, brainwashed, given military training, and also training in how to be suicide bombers. john? >> all right, ben. just horrifying pictures from there. thanks so much. donald trump supporter rudy giuliani saying hillary clinton's health is the issue in this campaign. he says just go look at the internet because the internet never lies about anything. what's going on here? that's next. for the first time...
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guess when we'll turn up. because after all we should fit into your life. not the other way around. she has an entire media empire that constantly demonizes donald trump, fails to point out several signs of illness by her. all you have to do is go online -- >> her campaign and other people defending her are saying there's nothing factual about the claims to her health. that's speculation at best. >> so go online and put down hillary clinton illness. take a look at the videos for yourself. >> all right.
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wow. donald trump supporter rudolph giuliani blaming the media for not trafficking an inwin -- innuendo about hillary clinton's health. it's not just him. wow. rudy giuliani says go look at the internet because it's all clear. >> right. wow is correct. there's a great poll by farley dickinson back in may that found trump supporters are more likely than other candidate supporters to believe in conspiracy theories. it's not really clear what the political value to this is. it's not really clear that this will make any hillary clinton supporters rethink their votes if they believe they conspiracy theories to be true. i'm not sure why it happens, but i'm not surprised it comes from trump and his supporters.
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>> alex, has hillary clinton released her medical records? >> she has not released all the documentation that in her doctor's possession. >> as much as other candidates have released. >> sure. we have seen an eroding standard of transparency in a lot of ways with candidates' health and financial disclosures over time. i have to say, i'm with bill here in finding this kind of puzzling. drump has raised conspiracy theories in the past. he has done a lot of name calling. typically, it has played into some existing negative perception of a candidate. the idea of crooked hillary reinforced the suspicion a lot of voters have that maybe she's not entirely on level. i don't think i've encountered evidence that there's widespread concern about hillary clinton's physical toughness and ability to do the job. >> we have no evidence
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whatsoever that there are any lingering health issues here. the clinton campaign has released as much or more as the trump campaign. no, they haven't released every last medical document that exists, but certainly more than the trump campaign has here, jackie. there are some people who do a lot of work. she thinks this is a sexist dog whistle. you talk about hillary clinton's stamina, saying she's tough enough. you're saying she's not a man. >> that could be part of it, but i tend to side with phil and alex on this, that this is a conspiracy theory. you had the ap reporter that was in the video that sean hannity was peddling around, had to write an article saying, i was there, that's not what happened. so this has sort of gotten out of hand. the other interesting thing, you saw this happening with john mccain a little bit in 2008. it usually happens when there's a younger candidate campaigning against an older candidate. that's not the case here. so it really is, as you all pointed out, a puzzling tactic
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that seems to be playing to the donald trump voters. >> let's look at their fundraising efforts and who's ahead at the moment. this is through july 31st. we can look at clinton versus trump here. she raised $275 million to his $91 million. she spent a lot more as well, $230 million to his $71 million. we also have a new clinton ad. some of that money has gone to. so let's listen to this new ad that has just been released now. watch this. >> i'm hillary clinton, and i approve this message. >> in times of crisis, america depends on steady leadership. >> knock the crap out of them, would you. seriously. >> clear thinking. >> i know more about isis than the generals do. believe me. >> and calm judgment. >> and you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> because all it takes is one wrong move. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ]
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out of them. >> just one. >> okay. so phil, that seems to be carrying along with the narrative that they have begun, which is that he's not fit. >> yes. and that ad strikes me a lot like the 3:00 a.m. ad that was very famous during the 2008 campaign but with more to work with. one of the things we've seen repeatedly many polling is people are concerned about donald trump's fitness and temperament to be president. even while people think that both clinton and trump, neither of them is particularly trustworthy, they see clinton as having a better temperament. >> i think you have to listen at the end of that ad to the sound of a rocket being fired. there's all the other audio to listen to, but i think the key clip is that sound of a rocket being fired or a jet taking off. you can almost sense the clinton folks building up to the e kw equivalent of that anti-goldwater ad with the girl picking daisies followed by a nuclear explosion. >> $80 million in ad spending between now and november 8th. so they're going to put a lot of
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money behind this and other efforts. guys, thanks so much. well, american swimmer ryan lochte apologizing for overexaggerating about being robbed at gunpoint in rio. ing lochte lose millions in the endorsements he has as well as his medals? we have a live report from brazil next.
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final chapter, maybe, in this ryan lochte saga. he admitted that he overexaggerated. let's listen to what he said this weekend to matt lauer about how this happened. >> this is why i'm taking full responsibility for my actions. because if i didn't overexaggerate the story to what i said when i did it, when it first happened with billy bush and yourself, and i told you the full story, none of this would have happened. >> so christine, this has been a teachable moment, certainly for our children, about how sometimes covering up for the crime is worse than the crime. what happens now to ryan lochte? >> reporter: well, alisyn, usa swimming, the u.s. olympic committee, and the international olympic committee are all looking into this, whether there will be three separate suspensions for ryan lochte, maybe all just thrown together
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as one, other punishment, maybe the three other swimmers will be looked at as well, although i think we all agree they had a lesser role in this. lochte is going to be suspended, my sources have told me that. it's tough for him because this long, drawn out apology, you know, it's been a week of silence for five days and then one apology, then another. michael phelps showed how to do this. when you get in trouble, within 24 hours, which he did twice, phelps did, one paragraph apology, take full blame, move on, and take your suspension. lochte, of course, has done none of that. >> reporter: and i'm curious to see how he's going to be treated by his peers. as a former nfl player, i can say that i can relate to this a bit. say you're in the playoffs and you're trying to focus. this is the moment you've been preparing for. it's the same thing here with these olympians. all the sudden they have some knucklehead that does something that's taken all the attention away from all your hard work and accomplishments and your moment,
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even asking you questions about what you think about what this guy did. so i'd hate to feel what those other athletes were probably feeling. kudos to gunnar bentz, one of his teammates, one of those four swimmers. he came out with a statement, basically putting his foot down saying, no, no, no, this is what happened. all that other craziness, i don't want to hear about it. he's thinking about his future. it was good of him to put his foot down and separate himself from ryan lochte and all of that madness. >> look, even in his fullest apology, he's still saying, you know, i was drunk, i'm not blaming the fact i was drunk, but man, i was drunk. just listen to what he said here. >> it was still hours after the incident happened. i was still intoxicated. i was still under that influence. >> so even there, christine brennan, it seems like ryan lochte can't fully own up to the fact he lied on tv.
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>> reporter: well, john, absolutely. and of course then they were all interviewed by the u.s. olympic committee to try to get to the bottom of this hours later when we presume he wasn't drunk, and he lied. i think at some point -- i know we've talked about this for days on end. the gas station story we may never get. it's a he said, he said, who did what. the reality is ryan lochte and these other three, especially lochte, 30 years old, you know you have to be on your best behavior. what can go on in a college fraternity is just not allowed at the olympic games. john, you know, we've worked olympic games together. it's different. for ryan lochte to lie to the u.s. olympic committee, then to leave the country and leave the other three behind, that may be worse than anything that happened at that gas station. >> reporter: i think we're seeing he's probably realizing he's at the end of his career. there's probably not going to be another olympic games for him to redeem himself. he's thinking about sponsors. ralph lauren has already taken
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him off their website. he's starting to feel that and hang on in any way he can. >> christine, let's talk about the controversy or at least questions surrounding this south african runner who officials had questioned her gender. has this been resolved? >> reporter: no, alisyn. it's not. she's won the olympic gold medal. some of her competitors are very concerned about this. it's understandable as well. here's my take on this. since 2009, the leaders of world sport, track and field and the international olympic committee, have known about this issue. they have let an athlete twist in the wind. they've said one thing, said another. semenya is not going to be the last athlete who has these issues about chromosomes. the fact they've had now seven years as leaders of sport and have not resolved this to the satisfaction of all the athletes is just another example of the lack of leadership. we've seen it with the russian doping thing. here it is again.
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it's so unfortunate because the last people who deserve to twist in the wind are these athletes. >> reporter: she has boosted testosterone levels naturally. she's said, look, this is not my fault. there have been athletes in the past like this. they feel discriminated against. it won't be the last time. as christine said, you got to have the leadership in place to address it immediately so there's a clear-cut plan for when this comes up in the future. >> particularly since the science actually does provide answers for this now. we actually do know that her testosterone level is three times that of what is normal. so we have the answers, and they need to now, you know, help the -- we have the answers to the questions. coy, christine, thank you very much for all of your analysis. we'll talk with you later in the program. >> we should say later in the 7:00 hour we're going to speak with u.s. swimming gold medalist maya dirado.
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this campaign is about giving a voice to those who don't have one. >> we've got to have new leadership in washington. >> we are going to end this chaos. >> he has said we need a fair and humane way of dealing with 11 million imdprants. >> she's an insider fighting only for herself. i'm an outsider fighting for you. >> this is a damn shame. >> this is a historic, unprecedented flood event. >> it happened fast. it's sad. you do what you got to do. >> they let down our athletes. they let down americans. they really let down our hosts in rio. >> i'm just grateful for the entire experience. >> it has honestly been a dream come true, and it just keeps getting better. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." chris is off this morning. john berman joins me here in
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studio. we have a lot to talk about. to be determined. that's the trump campaign's new status or new plan to whether or not to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. it seems to be a change in his stance, of course, on the immigration issue. >> so is this deliberate? is it a flip-flop? is it an abandonment of his core campaign issue? we have this story covered from every angle. >> reporter: good morning, john. this would potentially be a big reversal for donald trump. his hard line stance on imfwr s immigration is one of the core defining issues of his campaign. trump is now preparing to make a major policy address this week on immigration. there are some indications his positions could be changing. donald trump's campaign signaling a possible softening of his controversial position on the force deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants. >> they will go out. they will come back.
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some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> reporter: trump's hard line stance a signature issue of his campaign since the beginning. now his new campaign manager indicating that policy is not set in stone. >> let me play something from what mr. trump has said previously. listen to what he said back in november. >> we're going to have a deportation force. you're going to do it humanely. >> ripped out of their homes, how? >> if they came from a certain country, they're going to go back. that's the way it's supposed to be. >> will that plan include a deportation force, the kind you just heard about in that sound bite and that he talked about during the republican primaries? >> to be determined. >> reporter: key trump surrogate senator jeff sessions confirming that trump is wrestling with the issue after a meeting with hispanic advisers on sunday ahead of a big policy speech later this week. >> he listened to a lot of people.
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i don't think he made any commitments. he's thinking that through. i think that's the right thing. this potential shift coming as trump attempts to broaden his appeal among african-american voters. >> i've asked the african-american community to honor me with their vote. you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: polls show he's way behind in the key voting bloc. following a string of controversial comments about minorities. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. look at my african-american over here. this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall, okay. >> reporter: trump's now more muted, scripted style reserved for policy, not for his opponent, hillary clinton. >> she will never be able to fix the isis problem that her policies created.
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for one thing, she doesn't have the strength or the stamina. >> reporter: all this as trump and his surrogates continue to raise unsubstantiated questions about hillary clinton's health. >> go online, type in hillary clinton illness, and look for yourself. >> reporter: and again, those claims about clinton's health are unsubstantiated. meantime, sources tell cnn that a top strategist from the rnc, sean spicer, will be doing some work each week out of the trump campaign head quarters. this is an important move, especially coming off the broader campaign shake-up that we of course saw last week, alisyn. a new atenlt to try to coordinate activity between the party and the nominee. >> okay. sunlen, you've given us a lot to talk about. thank you very much. here to join us, christine quinn and former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski, who is still receiving severance from the trump campaign. he is a cnn political commentator as well. great to see both of you.
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>> morning. >> thank you. >> how can donald trump be changing the main pillar of his campaign, which he said he was going to deport every single undocumented immigrant? >> well, if you listen to what kellyanne conway said, and this comes at the heels of a meeting that donald trump had in trump tower on saturday with a number of hispanic leaders from raroun the country, he said we need to be fair and humane and we're going to uphold the constitution. that hasn't changed his position at all. he said we're going to look at this and be fair and humane, but first and foremost, uphold the constitution and put americans first. >> corey, that has changed. let me play for you the mashup of all the things he said where basically he said every single one has got to go. listen to this. >> we're rounding them up in a very humane way and a very nice way, and they're going to be happy because they want to be legalized. by the way, i know it doesn't sound nice, but not everything is nice. >> they're going back where they came. if they came from a certain
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country, they're going to be brought back to that country. that's the way it's supposed to be. they can come back, but they have to come back legally. >> they will go out. they will come back, some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> corey, we're rounding them up, they will go out, they're going back where they came from. this is what he said, and it has changed. >> what he said was fair and humane and uphold the constitution. >> but he was going to get rid of every single one. >> first and foremost, if you're a convicted felon and you're in this country illegally, you're gone. right off the bat. >> there was more than that. he says every single one of them. we're rounding them up, every single one of the 11 million. that's changed. >> you know, what he's hearing from the hispanic community, which he met with, is how do we do it. as you look at the way the federal government is currently structured, there's no position, no place right now where they have the ability to do that. you have to actually put a system in place to first and foremost identify who those 11 million are. >> so he's becoming more
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practical about it? >> i think he's looking at the totality of it. the government is so broken, before you could even get to this stuff, you have to first be able to identify who those people are. >> christine? >> this is another example of a campaign, the trump campaign, that is in poll free fall. the numbers have gone down and down and down. and the campaign and donald trump, really, are willing to do anything, to rework anything, to throw anything out, to word smith and manipulate things in any way to try to get the numbers back up. i've always found his immigration plan reprehensible. you can say something is humane. that doesn't make it humane. i know there's a discussion of a meeting that happened over the weekend with latino and hispanic leaders, but let's be clear. from the moment he started talking about building a wall, from the moment he called immigrants rapists and criminals, from when he attacked a mexican-american judge, the
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latino community and people of good faith have been speaking out over and over about what a bad plan this is. so let's not pretend saturday was a boiling point and the first time donald trump heard that members of the hispanic and latino community and others thought this was reprehensible. he may have listened on saturday. we don't know because kellyanne wasn't clear. may have listened, because he is losing and will do anything to win. >> let's talk about how he's trying to win over african-american voters. he tried on friday night to make an appeal to them. let me play some of that language for you. >> what do you have to lose? look, what do you have to lose? you're living in poverty. your schools are no good. you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> so corey, on social media at least, a whole bunch of professional and middle class
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felt that was an joutdated message. >> i think what the language is, is the democratic party has taken the african-american community for granted for the last 30 years. what donald trump is saying is, look, if you're happy as a community and you're happy with the way the direction is going, homeownership is down 5% since 2009 in the african-american community, if you're happy with that, then you should vote for the third term of barack obama's administration, which is the status quo. if you want a change, if you want an opportunity that hasn't been presented and will not be taken advantage of, i'm your change candidate. >> christine, we hear this a lot from conservatives, who say democratic policies have not helped the inner cities. schools there are crumbling and failing. so why should they put their trust in another democratic candidate? >> well, fiction i want to srst the number we just heard donald trump say about 58% is completely inaccurate. that's if you take all high school african-american -- >> who are not looking for a job. >> and we don't want them to be. >> the real number is 14.5 by the bureau of labor statistics. >> that's just a lie.
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it's a total lie and misrepresentation of the facts to scare people. but i really find what donald trump is saying offensive. it's offensive, as you heard, from middle class african-americans, but i work every day with homeless women, many of whom are african-american. you know what, donald trump judging them, saying because they don't have a home because they don't have a lot of money, both of which they want to have -- >> but he's not judging them. he's saying what have the democrats done for them. >> saying they have nothing to lose negates who they are. it negates all they have to lose. their pride, their work ethic, their children, their dreams, their focus on the future. it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of who america is. and look at the specifics you heard from mike pence earlier today on this show. it's been terrible for african-americans. look at obamacare. obamacare has helped countless african-americans and their children get the medical care they need.
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we heard earlier in the show today, very significant job growth, over the fed's expectation. and let's not forget the republicans have controlled congress for quite some time and what have they done. >> leadership starts at the top of the administration. you can't pass the buck on congress. it's not fair. 1.3 million more african-americans are living in poverty than they did in 2009 under this administration. that's a fact. bureau of labor statistics also say african-american unemployment is three times higher than the national average. the unemployment rate in this country is about 7.4%. the african-american community, over 14%. >> and you know what, you can say, good job, republican congress, when they worked with president obama. but when they stood in the way of initiatives that would be helpful to low-income and african-americans, that's a problem and they should be held accountable. so corey just said the
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republicans in congress don't matter. that's not true. >> i want to get to hillary clinton's e-mails. more continues to bubble up about this. she had said -- okay, when it was leaked, the notes from the fbi, when we got some of those, one of the things she said in the interview was that she was at a dinner party at madeline albright's house and she said what advice do you have for the incoming secretary of state, hillary clinton. colin powell had said use private e-mail. colin powell says he has no recollection of that. he's speaking to "people" magazine. he says, her people have been trying to pin this on me. the truth is, she was using the private e-mail server for a year before i sent her a memo telling her what i did. christine, this is a problem. colin powell doesn't want to be part of this, and he's saying she's misrepresenting his advice. >> she said in those comments -- she would like all of the notes put out and all of the records put out. >> but colin powell doesn't
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remember saying that. >> clearly he says he doesn't remember. she does remember. the real issue here is that this issue of the e-mails, i think, has officially been put to bed and put aside as it relates to the campaign. when the fbi director, a man who's above reproach, said there would be no further action, nothing would move forward, it has been put to bed. but yet we still see right-wing groups that have been trying to take down hillary clinton for decades continuing to push this issue, and now we see leaks from the republican congress put out in bits and pieces. >> but colin powell is not a right-wing -- he wants the record set straight. corey? >> it hasn't been put to bed. the fact you brought someone in whose reputation can be unimpugnable, colin powell, is now being brought into a controversy which he clearly said he doesn't want to be a part of. the secretary of state is now blaming colin powell for a memorandum she sent a year after
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she'd already been using her private e-mail. he said for expediency sake, i use my private e-mail, not for classified information. he had a classified desk top e-mail system he used in the office. >> she's absolutely not blaming him. she's saying that's her recollection of the dinner party. she's not blaming him. no one would call in all of colin powell's actions. he's a man who deserves great respect. i think when the fbi director said we're done, we were done, expect republican efforts to keep this going. >> corey, christine -- >> this is not a republican effort. hillary clinton blaming somebody for her own fault. >> i'm giving you the last word. >> no! >> leaked by republicans, not colin powell. >> corey, christine, thank you. in just a moment, my one-on-one interview with trump's running mate, governor pence. you'll hear what he says about some of the differences he has with donald trump. let's get over to john.
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13 minutes after the hour. the death toll in that suicide bombing of after wedding party in turkey is now up to at least 53. the country's president tells reporters he believes isis is to blame for this attack, and the attacker only 12 to 14 years old. cnn senior international correspondent ben weideman live in gaziantep, turkey, for us this morning. >> reporter: the latest, john, that we know is the death toll has risen to 54. three people injured saturday night have died in hospital. we did hear from president erdogan that he believes the bomber -- he doesn't specify girl or boy -- was between the ages of 12 and 14. turkish investigators have found pieces of the vest. beyond that, they don't seem to have much information. what is clear is this was the worst attack by isis in turkey
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so far this year. of course, you'll remember on the 28th of june, there were multiple attacks on the u.s. tan bull international airport, which left 44 dead. among those who were killed, there were 22 children -- rather, 22 children under the age of 14, which has really left this city of gaziantep in shock. it's known there are isis cells in this city. the turkish police have croacke down on some of them. >> what a story, ben. thank you for the update from turkey. well, a grim warning about the zika virus from the director of the national institutes of health. he says that he would not be surprised if the virus spreads to other gulf coast states since it already is moving rapidly across miami-dade county. and with the deadly flooding in louisiana this week, the chances of the virus showing up in that
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state have gone up dramatically because of all the standing water. new details in the death of prince. "the minneapolis star tribune" cites a source close to the investigation saying pills taken from prince's paisley park estate labeled hydrocodone actually contained fent knoll. >> that is quite an update. well, on a lighter note, the national zoo's giant panda cub just turned 1, but true to form, he snoozed through his own birthday bash. you may remember bei bei slept through his media debut in december and his public debut in january. >> what's he hiding? how many days has it been since bei bei's last media appearance? >> maybe he's just tired, john. his mom took advantage and devoured bei bei's cake, made out of flavored ice, apples, and sweet potatoes. i've been known to do that at my own children's birthday party. >> that's an impressive gig.
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i wonder how long it took bei bei's mom to make that. a long time. up next, more of alisyn's interview with donald trump's running mate mike pence. where they disagree on some issues and where they're in total agreement.
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okay. i can cross this off my bucket list. donald trump's running mate mike pence says going to the iowa state fair was also on his buck list, and that's where i caught up with him over the weekend. between shaking hands and eating some pork chops on a stick and dining on this delicacy they have called a hot beef sundae, he did address some key campaign issues, including the new leadership team for team trump. >> governor, i know you don't have much time, so i'll try to make it rapid fire. back to the campaign changes for one second. steve bannon now at the top of your campaign. he's known as a street fighter.
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he's known as a flame thrower. he was the head of the far-right website breitbart. are you comfortable with his messaging? >> i'm comfortable with the team donald trump is building around him. steve bannon, kellyanne conway, who's making history as the first woman in the history of the republican party to lead a major campaign and someone i've known for years. the key to donald trump's success in business, i think, is also going to continue to be a key for his extraordinary success in this campaign. that is bringing the right men and women around him, putting the right combination together. that's exactly what a great ceo does. >> in terms of steve bannon, he is controversial. let me just read to you some of the headlines in breitbart lately. being trans hate machine targets kurt schilling. that's in reference to the transgender community. there's no hiring bias against women in technology, they just suck at interviews. birth control makes women unattractive and crazy. you get the picture.
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are you comfort wable with that kind of flame throwing? >> donald trump is bringing around him a team of people in steve and kellyanne and all those that have been a part of this team for a long period of time that i think is delivering a message that is resonating with millions of americans. >> even if it's incendiary? >> well, donald trump is the name on the ticket. i'm honored to be on the ticket with him. >> obakay, issues. you have supported free trade your entire professional and public life. you have said free trade means jobs. trade means security. you supported tpp. donald trump has said about those things that the u.s. is being taken to the cleaners by these trade deals. which one of you is right? >> well, donald trump is right. donald trump and i both support free trade, but the time has come, whether it be with nafta or all of these multinational
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agreements, like the tpp, that america take a step back and ask whether or not these trade deals are working for the american worker. >> but you supported these deals. you supported every single free trade deal in 12 years you were in congress. were you wrong during that time? >> no, when nafta was signed by president bill clinton, there was a provision in that legislation that it was to be reviewed on a regular basis to make sure that it was working for the american worker. we've never done that. >> do you think it's not working? >> well, i think we need to ask that question. i think the time has come for us to reopen nafta, and renegotiate it with a president who's proven himself to be one of the most skilled business leaders and negotiators in the world. >> so you regret some of your support for some of the free trade agreements that you were part of. >> no, alisyn, honestly, you can be for free trade and also be for the american worker, for american jobs. that's donald trump's position, and that's my position. we understand that trade means jobs, that exports support jobs
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here in iowa and in indiana and all across this country. also, our imports result in low-cost goods for the people of this country, which also supports our economy. but we've got to have new leadership in washington that'll take a fresh look at these trade deals, a fresh look at the way china has been, you know, manipulating their currency, violating trade. >> vladimir putin. donald trump has been complimentary of vladimir putin, said he's a strong leader, stronger than our u.s. leaders. how do you feel about vladimir putin? >> donald trump is going to provide the kind of leadership at the national level that people like vladimir putin are going to respect. >> but what do you think of vladimir putin? >> look, vladimir putin has a history in the kgb. he has a strong authoritarian tendency to him in russia. i think he's someone that needs to be watched. but the truth of the matter is what we've seen over the last 7 1/2 years is an administration that has so little respect by
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the world community, including by russia, that russia and other countries in the wider arab world, the borders have been disintegrates and we've seen aggressive action not only by russia but by china and the south china sea. i think the american people know that the broad-shouldered leadership that donald trump will bring to the white house will immediately command the respect of the world. >> on a much lighter note, your opponent tim kaine, we know he plays the harmonica for entertainment. do you have any hidden entertainment skill up your sleeve? >> i play a little bit of guitar. >> nice. >> yeah, i used that to impress my wife when we were dating. >> it is impressive. >> you know, the time that we spend with free time is whatever time our kids have. it's one of the things that donald trump and i really have in common. you know, we're all about family. even before he would pick up the phone and invite me to join this
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ticket, he insisted that i meet his family and that he know my family. >> in fact, we've heard his kids were big cheerleaders of yours and champions of yours, impressed for you to be on the ticket. >> well, karen and i are very humbled by that. he's got an extraordinary family. he's a good, good father. he's dedicated to melania. i honestly believe all of those qualities are going to make this good man a great president of the united states. >> he didn't want to talk about the guitar at all. you really had him on the guitar thing. he got tongue tied. >> mike pence, rock and roller. who knew. i think that you got a real glimpse at mike pence and his dedication to donald trump. so we will be talking more about that, what role will he play as the election approaches. we're going to break it all down with michael smerconish next. oh, look at me. e the best essays in the entire 8th grade.
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the republican vice presidential nominee mike pence sat down with "new day," alisyn
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kam r camerota. they were at the iowa state fair having hot beef sundaes. here to discuss what was said, michael smerconish. great to have you with us this morning. alisyn asked governor pence some stuff about trade deals. now, mike pence has been a free trader since birth. i mean, nafta, you're looking at tpp. he's supported all of those trade deals. when alisyn asked him, do you support where you've been on trade or donald trump, he said, no, no, no, i'm with donald trump now. just a complete disavowal of all of his previous positions on trade deals. that was pretty interesting. >> i thought it was a very illuminating interview generally. alisyn asked all the right questions in a very probing manner, did it in a civil way. and i thought he handled himself well. you're right, i made notes on that answer. he said drurp is the one who's right. allis alisyn said, how can he be the one who's right? did you note he quickly stressed it was bill clinton who signed that deal into law.
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when bill clinton signed it into law, it was supposed to be revisited on an ongoing basis. and he implied that it hadn't been. john, this is what it is to run for vice president. it's a delicate balance of being loyal to the individual at the top of the ticket and at the same time, trying to be your own man. i think he's playing that role very well so far. >> i mean, that is a tough one to thread, needle to thread. he felt strongly about free trade, but now you heard him, the way he's sort of getting through that is by saying, well, everything can be revisited. you can ask questions about any trade deal. and that's what we should be doing. is that a good enough answer, michael? >> i think it's the only answer he has, alisyn. in the alternative, if he were to say, well, this is an area of disagreement with donald trump, it's one of the really two pillars, that and immigration, of the trump campaign. so i don't think there's any way that he can go in that direction. >> so up until this point, it's
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almost seemed mike pence is running a parallel campaign to the trump campaign. just completely different. mike pence sticks to message. now this campaign shake-up, alisyn was asking governor pence about the new leadership of the campaign, steve bannon, who ran breitbart.com up until now, which has, you know, awfully costic headlines. mike pence looked at some of them right there. what did you make of what governor pence had to say about the new campaign leadership? >> so alisyn asked him about some of the more incendiary comments from steve bannon, that which he's known for. and when did he say? he very deftly pointed to the fact that kellyanne conway is the first female to play such a prominent role in a campaign of this size. again, i thought a very effective answer. now, i was here on friday, and we commented on the fact that steve bannon is known for the incendiary comments and pugilistic style. yet, on his watch, it had thus been the more contrite donald trump. can i report it's now monday and
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at least that donald trump lasted through the weekend, courting african-americans, courting hispanic voters. we can talk a little bit about that. it's kind of interesting because many of us thought that this was going to be a flame throwing campaign and maybe it will be, but thus far, it's not what we anticipated. >> i will say that donald trump has been on twitter this morning, you know, throwing slander and slurs at some people on twitter. so go look for yourself. i think probably the new nice donald trump may be over, at least on twitter. i want to ask you about one of donald trump's supporters, a guy who i think may line up with where your politics has been, at least in the past. rudy giuliani, former mayor of new york city, was spreading trafficking innuendo about hillary clinton's health this weekend. there have been rumors that she's unhealthy. there have been videos posted and doctored online saying, look at this, she has health issues. this is what mayor giuliani said. >> she has an entire media empire that constantly demonizes
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donald trump, fails to point out several signs of illness by her. all you've got to do is go online -- >> her campaign and other people are defending her saying there's nothing factual to the claims about her health and that's speculation at best. >> so go online and put down hillary clinton illness, take a look at the videos for yourself. >> mayor giuliani, michael, sayisay ing go online, find out for yourself, you can see this stuff. >> i have tremendous respect for mayor giuliani's leadership on september 11 and in the immediate aftermath for new york city. i've had the pleasure of being in his company, talking about some of the ways in which he approached that job. i am profoundly disappointed to hear him say what he just said about going online. and john, here's what popped into my head. it was the day that my daughter came home from high school and raised with me loose change. don't know whether those words mean anything to you, but it's
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this internet bunk about how 9/11 was an inside job. does rudy, of all people, want us going online and searching the internet and drawing conclusions? man, i hope not. >> michael, isn't this just i illustrative of where we are, the fact that it's a fact-free zone with the internet. you know the old adage, that you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. with the internet, you're entitled to your own facts because everybody can go on there and find whatever nugget they want to cling to, and that's what we've seen time and again with this entire campaign. >> that's not necessarily a good thing though, and i'm not going to embrace it. i think it's unhealthy for us as a society and electorate to all play armchair physician and go on and make some diagnoses. you made reference earlier in the program to the ap reporter who said, wait a minute, with regard to one of these snippets,
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i was there, that's just not the way that it went on. alisyn, somebody could take the video that you and i are creating right now, put it online later, and i'm sure make me out to be a madman. i just don't want people drawing conclusions from that sort of thing. >> that could never happen. that could never happen with you. >> it does. >> it can and it does. michael, thank you for all of those reminders. >> some people are just too sane. all right. we want to know, you may have noticed we have no hillary clinton high-level surrogates here, no high-level staffers on the show. we've been asking for the last two weeks, and for the last two weeks the clinton campaign has no provided "new day" with any senior campaign official as a spokesperson. we'd love to have you. well, president obama will visit the flood ravaged louisiana tomorrow. fema has approved $55 million in aid. as you know, donald trump and mike pence visited there last week. so is enough being done to help the people who have lost everything? you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure.
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people in louisiana continue to clean up from the floods that have left 13 people dead and nearly 32,000 in shelters. more than $55 million has been approved to help the survivors there. let's bring in former democratic senator from louisiana, senior policy adviser, mary landrieu. thank you so much for being here. >> good morning. >> what's the status in louisiana today? what's happening with the people there, particularly those who have been displaced? >> well, it's terrible and devastating and just heart wrenching to watch so many people. the vastness of this flood is
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hard to really explain. television, with all due respect to the coverage, just can't give it justice in that way. it's a large swath of south louisiana, not just baton rouge. it runs from ascension and livingston parish, which is between new orleans and baton rou rouge, all the way over to the western part of the state. it was just a one in a thousand-year rain event. i think up to 20 inches of rain in a short period of time, over a third of the rainfall. as you all know the geography of the nation well, even when it rains in arkansas, we get the water. it's just an ongoing struggle. i think we need a lot more investment locally, staid wide, and federal to prevent this kind of flooding in the future. >> the pictures are just stunning. it has been described as the worst natural disaster since hurricane sandy. we all remember how hurricane sandy gripped the country. you saw all the politicians rushing there and being
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devastated. why do you think this hasn't gotten as much attention? >> well, i think a couple things. maybe, and this is just my perspective, the south tends to get a little bit less than maybe the coast, either california, new york, but that's i think just a general truth, i hope not an exaggeration. also, the olympic was on. i think people were distracted. so i'm really glad that the, you know, networks are starting to give more attention. it's also maybe not a major city like maybe new york or even new orleans, got a lot of attention in katrina. i think that happens quite a bit, whether it's a flood in the midwest or a flood in the south. if you're not a major metropolitan area, you kind of get left out, and that's a shame because people really need the attention and help. >> well, senator, what do you think of the fact that donald trump was the first politician to go? he and mike pence went before president obama or hillary clinton. >> well, actually, president
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obama has been on top of this from day one. i know that for a fact and did send down secretary of homeland security, which is the appropriate person to go, and the fema director. that's who you want to see, the fema director and homeland security on the ground. i said and thanked donald trump for coming. anyone that comes can bring attention. i hope he also brought a check. i understand he made a generous donation, at least that was reported. again, the people thank him for that. but president obama will come when it is appropriate. i think he's coming tomorrow at the governor's invitation because, you know, rescue was still going on over this weekend. the waters are still high in some parts. so to organize a presidential visit during a rescue operation is really not smart. >> but what about hillary clinton? do you think, as she said said -- i'll read what she posted onfac facebook.
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my heartbreaks for louisiana, and right now the relief effort can't afford any distractions. would her visit be a distraction? >> well, it would be if people are being rescued in boats. you want to wait for an appropriate time to come. i think she'll be down as soon as she can. more than coming down to visit, which is important, believe me, it's also important to think about as a leader what can you do to improve the flood insurance situation, not just for louisiana, but for the nation. it's a little -- something i know a little bit about because i fought against higher insurance rates, opportunities for more people to have flood insurance. so when lower income or moderate income or middle income families like in this situation lose everything, there's somewhere to help them. the fema budget just goes so far. there is money in the fema budget. fema is better organized than it was before, which is good. but it's going to take a combination of local, state, federal, and volunteers to help
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rebuild and attention from you guys. >> well, and speaking of the attention, the local paper "the advocate" has called for politicians and leaders to go there. they don't think it would be a distraction. let me read what their editorial board just put out. they say, what ever one thinks of the controversial gop presidential nominee, perhaps we can agree he's often tapped into the anxieties of many americans who feel dispossessed. it's time for leaders of both political parties to come here and find common ground in places that just days ago were under water. it sounds like they're calling for hillary clinton and president obama to go there. >> well, i would generally say yes, that is correct. we want more people to come. again, i thank donald trump for coming. but also, i think it's true the governor cautioned, please don't come just for photo ops. if you're going to come, do something. while donald trump left a check,
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very grateful, i think a lot of people would like to hear a little bit more from him about his views on flood insurance and how as president he might provide more help and support. this isn't just for us. you could ask people in nashville, where i'm filming from this morning. they had a terrible flood here. or in the midwest or in elliott city in maryland. also, let me say that i hope both donald trump, hillary clinton, and president obama will talk about the underfunded budget of the corps of engineers. that's what people want to hear, how we can build our levees stronger. hillary clinton has talked about infrastructure. i hope donald trump will start talking about that. i haven't heard a word about infrastructure from his campaign. that's what people want to hear about. >> former senator, mary landrieu, thank you for the reminder that after the crisis, there's still much work to be done. thanks so much for being on "new day." >> thank you. >> let's get over to john. >> thanks, alisyn. u.s. athletes now making their
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way home after a big run in rio. a record number of medals. we have a special one here, an olympian coming home with one of every medal. she brought them in for us to take home. maya dirado joins us live next. she's now holding on to them extra tight. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get zero percent on select subaru models during the subaru a lot to love event, now through august thirty-first.
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this morning, many members of team usa flying home, filled with pride about their time in rio, the team combined to win 121 medals during the games. four of those, i think the most important four, belong to u.s. swimmer maya dirado. thank you for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> the question everyone has, when you fly back, go to the airport, do you check the medals or carry them on. >> carry them on. going through secure see, they were like, what are those. because they shoep w up as omin black disks. >> two golds, a bronze and silver, in case you're wondering. you won the 200-meter backstroke, this was not a race that you were supposed to win. not a race i don't think anyone thought you would win. what was that like, the moment you got to the end, you looked up at the board? >> unreal.
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i think you can see the surprise on my face, but i think the first thought that went through my mind was no fricking way. i was just, i had to look and look and i don't even remember, like, fully comprehending it. just like the surprise that -- it was overwhelming. >> you thought about quitting swimming. you didn't make the 2012 team. you kept on swimming in college and thought maybe my time is up. to almost give it up and go on and win a gold, it has to be overwhelming. >> it was crazy. i went through a special moment with my coach after i won and everyone was crying, and i just, i was like thank you so much, you know. he convinced me to keep swimming and thought i could do this. just little by little, getting me to that moment. that was incredible. >> in the swim, you know, you guys, you won a few medals in swimming. what was it like to be part of this team. >> so fun. every night, you know, whether you're swimming or not or watching, or from the standing
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or in the team area, it was just like swim after swim was incredible. we were feeding off the energy and getting excited. i would almost have to calm myself down before i swam because i was getting so hyped for my teammates and just watching everyone dominate. >> you're done. how do you know you're done? how do you know after four medals, it is time to hang it up. maybe i can win some more. >> maybe i could, but you know, it's four years from now and that's a long time, and i'm ready for the challenge of different hard work, you know. i think the challenge of swimming is good, but i feel like i've gone out the way i want to go out and now it's time for something new. >> if you're going to management consulting, mckenzie, it is a little bit of different hard work. >> for sure. i think people are like oh, you get to go into your real world. i don't get naps during the day. it's going to be a little
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tougher. but i think i'm ready for the adjustment. >> do they have medals at mckenzie? interesting. something for them to think about. obviously the swim team, also a little controversy as well with what happened with ryan lochte. was that tough for you to see, when you want to be all good, you want it to be all sunshine union corns, t unicorns. >> it was unfortunate. coming off the week we had, team usa was, we destroyed. it was one of our best olympics ever. so then for the focus to be on that this past week, especially as other athletes are competing. you have ashton eaton winning for the second time in a row for the decathlon, and it got overshadowed. we had a great time in rio, and they were an amazing host. so we're disappointed the focus
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wasn't on that. >> do you feel let down? there a little bit. i think the team, the team is better than that. and for that to be what people remember is really unfortunate. we want people to remember the first week and how amaze usa swimming did. >> you went back to your high school, you've been back for a week now, you went back to the high school, what was that like? what lesson do you want to give to those kids at that high school? >> it was insane. i walked in and all 1,600 people were there in assembly. oh, my gosh. you have the footage. it was nuts. i think wanted to convey to them that it's cool to work hard. and to be really passionate about something, and that doesn't make you the coolest kid in high school necessarily. but you know, it pays off down the road. i hope they can get something that they love and that they like to work hard at. it will take them far. >> did you pull a muscle in your face smiling there? >> i didn't know what to do at
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that point. it was either cry or smile, so i tried to keep it together. >> maya, thank you so much for coming. what an accomplishment. >> thank you so much. following a lot of news this morning, including an interview with republican vice-presidential candidate, mike pence, so let's get right to it. >> we're going to build a wall. don't worry. >> will that plan include a deportation force? >> to be determined. >> it is now and always has been donald trump. >> african-american communities have suffered. what do you have to lose? >> the foundation is in the process of figuring out how to refocus. >> it is called pay for play. >> there is no new donald trump. this is it. >> she doesn't have the strength or the stamina, coupled with all of the other problems. >> it has been a dream come rad true. >> do you see gold medal after gold medal, it just uplifts you.
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>> the incident with the swimmers doesn't define these games. for us, it will be the great performances of the athletes. >>announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camero camerota. >> what a great guest. >> two gold medals around her neck what am i supposed to do? >> they're much heavier than you think. those were impressive. welcome, everyone. 8:00 in the east. chris is off, john berman is here. >> good to be here. donald trump changing his tune about deportation, rounding up 11 million undocumented immigrants. it is now, quote, to be determined. >> is this a complete reversal on one of his signature positions, and what does it mean for the wall along the border. could it be off the table as well? we have it covered from every angle. >> reporter: this would potentially be a big reversal for donald trump. his hard line stance on
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immigration, of course, is one of the defining core issues of his campaign. trump is now preparing to make a policy address on immigration, and there are some indications his positions could be changing. >> donald trump's campaign, signal a possible softening of his controversial position on the forced deportation of 11 million undocumented immigrants. >> they will go out. they will come back. some will come back. the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> trump's hard line stance, a signature issue of his campaign since the beginning. now, his new campaign manager indicating that policy is not set in stone. >> let me play something from what mr. trump has said previously. listen to what he said back in november. >> we're going to have a deportation force and do it humanly. >> are they going to get ripped out of their home as soon as. >> they're going back from where they came. they're going to brought back to
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their country. >> will the plan include a deportation force, the kind that he just, you just heard in that sound bite and talked about during the republican primaries? >> to be determined. >> reporter: key trump surrogate, jeff sessions, confirming trump is wrestling with the issue after a meeting with hispanic advisors on saturday, ahead of a big policy speech later this week. >> he listened to a lot of people. i don't think he made any commitments. he is thinking that through. i think that's the right thing. >> reporter: this potential shift, coming as trump attempts to broaden his appeal among african-american voters. >> i've asked the african-american community to honor me with their vote. you are living in poverty, your schools are no good, you have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. what the hell do you have to lose? >> reporter: polls show his campaign is way behind with his
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key voting block. following a string of controversial comments about minorities. >> they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. they are rapists. look at my african-american over here. i'm building a wall, okay, i'm building a wall. >> reporter: now more muted scripted style, reversed for policy. >> she will never be able to fix the isis problem that her policies created. for one thing, she doesn't have the strength or the stamina. >> reporter: all this, as trump and his surrogates continue to race unsubstantiated questions about hillary clinton's health. >> go online and put down hillary clinton illness and take a look for yourself. >> reporter: the claim about hillary clinton's health are unsubstantiated. her campaign says she is in excellent health and call it deranged conspiracy theories. meantime, coming off the broader trump campaign shake-up we did
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see last week, sources tell cnn a top strategist, shawn spicer, will be doing some work out of the trump campaign headquarters, a move to coordinate activity with the rnc. john and alisyn. >> we want to talk about shawn spicer's role. thank you. mike pence getting the message out there. the indiana governor was at the state fair and we talked to him. >> let's start with some of the latest headlines. on friday night, donald trump was in michigan, as you know, and he was making an appeal to african-american voters. >> sure. >> and he used some language and messaging that some people have taken umbrage with. i'll read some of it to you. he said you're living in poverty. your schools are no good.
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you have no jobs. you have 58% youth unemployment. what the hell do you have to lose? that's an appeal to vote for the trump/pence ticket. what do you think of that message? >> it was such an honor and privilege to be with donald trump earlier in the day, as we toured neighborhoods devastated by the flood anything baton rouge. i saw this broad shoulder leader in his profound compassion for the hurting families in louisiana. and i think that message and other messages all proceed from the fact that donald trump and i both believe we can do better for every american. we can get the economy moving again. >> but specifically for the inner city, are there things you can say to black voters right now that are living there that -- how they would get jobs that currently aren't available to them? >> i think by promoting something different than what hillary clinton is advocating, which is more taxes, more regulation, more obama care, we're going to lift the fortunes
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of job creators all across america. the reality is that the majority of jobs that are created in this country are created by small business owners. her plan will continue to stiefle growth, like we've seen for the last seven and a half years. >> in terms of the language he used, you were okay with it, you're living in poverty, you have no jobs, what the hell do you have to loose? you were okay with it being that blunt of a message? >> well, look, donald trump is not an experienced politician who carefully selects his words. he speaks right from his heart and his mind. what you heard this week is a leader who is determined to make america great for everyone in this country. and i think you're going to continue to see this campaign in the days and weeks ahead speak directly to americans in every
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community about what our plan to make america great is going to mean for them and their families. >> let's talk about some of the changes that have been happening in the campaign. paul manafort out, now bannon the ceo, kellyanne conway the campaign manager what do you think of those changes. >> i think there are always -- there is always a time as you approach labor day where campaigns, you know, evolve and change and have additions. i expect that to continue to be evidence of a campaign that is on a roll. >> what would you say was the problem with paul manafort's leadership? >> i think paul manafort made a decision to step down, just so there wouldn't be any distractions in the campaign. >> steve bannon, at the top of your campaign, he is known as a street fighter. he is known as a flame thrower. he was the head of the far right website breitbart. are you comfortable with his messaging. >> i'm comfortable with the team donald trump is building around him.
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steve bannon and kellyanne conway, the first woman in the history of the republican party to lead a national campaign. someone i've known for years. the key to donald trump's success in business is also going to continue to be a key for his extraordinary success in his campaign. that's bringing the right men and women around him, putting the right combination together. that's exactly what a great ceo d does. >> in terms of steve bannon, he is controversial, let me read you some of the headlines. big trans hate machine, in reference to the transgender community. there is no hiring bias against women in technology. they just suck at interview. birth control makes women unattractive and crazy. you get the picture. are you comfortable with that signed of flame throwing, or in
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se -- incendiary messaging. >> it is resonating with millions of americans. look, donald trump is the name on the ticket. i'm honored to be on the ticket with him. >> okay, issues. you have supported free trade your entire professional and public life. you have said trade, free trade means jobs. >> it does. >> trade means security. you supported tpp. you supported cafta. donald trump has said the u.s. is being taken to the cleaners by these trade deals. which one of you is right? >> donald trump is right. donald trump and i both support free trade. but the time has come whether it be with nafta or all of these national agreements like the tpp that america take a step back, and ask whether or not these trade deals are working for the american worker. >> you supported these deals. you supported every single free trade deal in 12 years in
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congress. were you wrong during that time? >> no, when nafta was signed by president bill clinton, there was a provision in that legislation that it was to be reviewed on a regular basis to make sure it was working for the american worker. we've actually never done that. >> do you think it is not working? >> all -- well, i think we need to ask that question. i think the time has come for us to reopen nafta and renegotiate it with a president who has proven himself to be one of the most skilled business leaders and negotiators in the world. >> you regret some of your support for some of the free-trade agreements that you were part of? >> no, alisyn, honestly, you can be for free trade and also be for the american worker and for american jobs. >> sudden nuance in the free trader, mike pence, a lot more to discuss coming up on that. we'll have corey lewandowski. >> we'll debate more on those topics. all right, light a candle, the olympics are over. the united states won the most medals by far, but the victory
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is tarnished a bit by controversy, as ryan lochte sort of apologized and kind of sort of came clean. cnn sports anchor coy wire live in brazil. good morning, coy. >> reporter: good morning, john. the people of rio have left a big impression on me. they're kind, caring. i've spoken to a lot of them over the past few weeks and genuinely hurt by the negative coverage ahead of the games. certainly there are problems here, but a lot of good, too. so after a lot of games, it was an absolute celebration at the closing ceremony. brazil, they won the most medals in their nation's olympic history. soccer is like religion here, and they won their first olympic gold, so it was a huge samba party. all was right. simone biles, carrying the american flag for the united states. she took the stage by storm, gathering fans all around the world, including fans right here
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in rio. some of the other athletes at the closing sermonny wanted to get their photos taken with her, selfies. what a wonderful representative for the usa. now, about the usa. dominating here in rio as john mentioned, and hoops was the last gold medal. it was only fitting that the u.s. men's team, serving up serbia, earning their third straight olympic gold. put down your coffee or might spit it out. the crowd started chanting "mongolia", when they thought it was a bad call. one stripped down to his underwear, another one took off his shirt. they started throwing their clothing at the judge in protest. friends, do not try this at work today, when something does not go your way. all right, to the biggest distraction of this year's games, ryan lochte, after issuing a written apology for the gas station incident, which then became an international
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incident, last week, lochte talked to matt lauer, which aired saturday night. lochte admitted to not telling the truth about that incident. >> as you said at some point after you refused to sit down, the security guard put the gun to your forehead and cocked it. >> that didn't happen. that didn't happen. that's why i over-exaggerated that part. >> why did you do that? >> i don't know why. you know, it was still hours after the incident happened. i was still intoxicated. i was still under that influence, and i'm not making me being intoxicated like an excuse. i'm not doing that at all. i mean, it was my fault. >> that was certainly a low light for team usa, but the highlight, as john showed us earlier, the 121 medals overall, blowing out the competition in rio. alisyn, the first of, south american olympic games were a
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success. >> there you go. thanks for bringing us the highlights from there. you've been down there the whole time. on a related story, now a grim warning about the zika virus from the national institutes of health. he said he would not be surprised if the virus spreads to other gulf coast states, since it is rapidly moving across miami-dade county. with the flood anything louisiana and the standing water, the chances of the virus showing up in that state have gone up dramatically. all right, incredible rescue after a boat capsized in a central florida lake, fellow boaters pulled two adults and a small child to safety, but another infant was nowhere to be found. police jumped into the lake, tracked the girl's cries before finding the 23-monday old pocket in an air pocket underneath the boat. they say the outcome could have been very, very different if she had not been wearing a life vest. >> oh, my gosh.
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an incredible story. thank god. former secretary of state, colin powell, refutes hillary clinton's claim that it was he who recommended using a private e-mail account. we'll discuss that development, next. h and fast. tums smoothies starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. tum-tum-tum-tum-tums smoothies, only from tums. soon, she'll type the best essays in the entire 8th grade. get back to great. sixteen gig lexar flash drives just three ninety-nine. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. morning is nothing new...stion, muddling through your ♪ introducing rhinocort® allergy spray. powerful relief from nasal allergy symptoms, all day and all night. ♪ try rhinocort® allergy spray. muddle no more®.
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the pro hillary clinton super pac just released a brand new ad this morning, slamming donald trump for his past statements. watch a clip. >> you gotta see this guy.
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i don't know what i said. i don't remember. he is going i don't remember. >> putting a wife to work is a very dangerous thing. i don't want to sound too much like a cheavnist he is a war hero because he was captured. >> chief strategy for priorities usa that produced those ads. thanks for being with us this morning. let me ask you about something kellyanne conway just said. she said that when the history is written about this campaign, people will look back at the past two weeks and ask why the clinton campaign and its supporters like you didn't put trump away. she is essentially saying you took your foot off the gas these last two weeks. there was an article in the new york times about how hillary clinton would govern her couple of months in office, looking too much ahead. your advertisement went up big, and the super pac not
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advertising in pennsylvania. are you taking too much for granted right now? >> absolutely not. the fact of the matter, is we are currently up in seven states. we go up in two additional states on the 20th. we're advertising in north carolina, where mitt romney won in the last election. i don't think anybody can say we're taking our foot off the pedal. we expect this election to go all the way to election day and make sure we're providing voters with the truth about donald trump until every vote is cast. >> no public events for hillary clinton yesterday. no public events for her today. she is out fundraising. should she be out campaigning right now? i know you don't work for the campaign. your advice would be? >> i think they should have a mix of events. right now, the focus han been on fundraising, because most voters aren't paying a lot of attention to it.
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kids are getting ready for school. public events and fundraising has been exactly right. >> let me ask you about this in "people" magazine. as you know, the clinton campaign and hillary clinton has suggested that she got the idea for having a private e-mail server at the state department from colin powell, who she says told her at a dinner party that she should use a private e-mail server, and also, later wrote her a memo. collin powell seas he doesn't remember it coming up, and he says this to ""people magazine"". he says her people, meaning hillary clinton's people have been trying to pin it on me. the truth, is she was using the private e-mail server for a year before i sent her a memo he telling her what i did. how does that appear to you? does it appear colin powell is refuting what hillary clinton has said? she got the idea from colin powell? >> no, i think all along, hillary clinton has taken responsibility for the e-mail.
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she has said she regrets it and apologizes for it. collin powell himself had a personal e-mail, he wrote an e-mail to hillary clinton saying it was helpful in his leadership of the state department. you know, look, when folks ask if hillary clinton regrets her decision, she says yes. when they ask her about details, she provides details in-depth about what happened. and then they ask why don't you just apologize. i think she has handled it appropriately and correctly and the information from last night is anything new. >> when she says she got the idea from colin powell at a dinner party and he doesn't remember it, when he says the e-mail or memo he sent her about it came a year after she started using the private e-mail server, does that question the accuracy of her accounts, whether in fact it is honest? >> well, i guess i would ask you if you remember everything from a dinner party that you attended from eight years ago. my guess is, probably not. and i think this a marked
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contrast. the reason we know this information is because hillary clinton has been transparent. meanwhile, she is running against someone that refused to release his tax returns. refuses to explain exactly why he owes foreign banks hundreds of millions of dollars, an refuses to explain why his campaign was behind a republican platform change that moved from a pro ukrainian position to pro russian position. >> you're absolutely right. donald trump has not released his taxes and we've pressed them on it every chance we get. what you said about remembering at a dinner party. >> eight years ago. >> eight years ago. are you suggesting that hillary clinton remembers it correctly but colin powell doesn't? is that what you're saying? >> he didn't say it didn't happen. he just said he didn't recall whether it happened. this is beside the point. hillary clinton has taken responsibility. >> but honesty is the issue.
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guy, hang on. the polls show that the american people, more than 60% have issues with whether or not hillary clinton is honest and trustworthy. these stories are her accounts of it, the accuracy are an issue. doesn't it matter if she gets the details right? >> of course it matters, and i think in this case she did. i trust hillary when she says colin powell talked to her about his e-mail, but at the end of the day, she continues to take responsibility. so i think yes, hillary clinton has been trustworthy and honest about it, and she has taken responsibility. that's a marked contrast compared to what donald trump has done just over the past couple of weeks. >> last question. you got a lot of money in the bank to spend in the next two months. a lot more than the pro trump super pacs. besides the ads, what kind of programs do you have plan snd we're investing heavily online. getting young people out to vote and supporting hillary will be -- we're investing for the
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first time as a super pac on the ground in key states, making sure we're turning out constituencies, latinos, announcing partnerships with this week with organizations in places like florida. so we are as we move into that critical get out the vote early vote period, not only going to be advertising on broadcast television, but going to be making sure that we as priorities are doing everything we can to get out the vote. >> thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. well, donald trump trying to reach out to african-american voters. how did his message come across. we debate that, next. you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®.
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what do you have to lose. look, what do you have to lose. you're living in poverty, your skoo schools are no good, 58% of your youth is unemployed. >> donald trump taking heat on social media over that pitch to african-american voters. i had a chance to speak with his running mate, governor mike pence, about that message.
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>> donald trump is not an experienced politician who carefully selects his words. he speaks from his right and his mind. what you heard this week is a leader who is determined to make america great for everyone in this country. >> all right, joining us now is former trump campaign manager, corey lewandowski, still receiving severance from the trump campaign. also - basil smichel. what do you think of the what have you got to lose? >> that appeal was insulting to me as an african-american. >> why? >> well, because where hillary clinton has worked most of her life for economic and social justice, i remember, i was in new york city in 1989, when
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donald trump took out $100,000 ads calling for the central park teens, calling for the death penalty for them and the kind of racial hatred he promoted at that time. he hasn't gone to churches, he hasn't spoke to naacp, national association of black journalists. he hasn't done anything and made any in-roads. for him to say you have nothing to lose, you're living in poverty, but what have you done to fix it or push your party back with respect to the kinds of policies that have helped create that? >> the bottom line is there are 7.3 million african-americans on food stamps and 2009. >> should donald trump be able to hold up? >> he has been a businessman.
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he has not been a leader of the free world. he has not been running the federal government. what we know is that home ownership under this administration for the african-american is down. >> let's talk about that. let's talk about that. because if you and your campaign are citing statistics about food stamps and welfare, and that's all that's being said about the african-american community, that's why he is polling at 1%, because there is no understanding of what's going on in communities in color. let's talk about that. gun control, whereas donald trump hasn't pushed back any of his -- any of his supporters in nra on gun control. we talk about schools and high school to career transitions. he hasn't talked about that at all. things that would help african-americans. >> you want him to broaden the message. >> actually talking to communities of color and understanding how diverse these communities are, as opposed to saying you're all poor, you don't go to good schools. that's just not true. >> the democratic party has taken advantage -- >> you worked inside the
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campaign, you're still in close contact with the campaign. any introspection why there seems to be a lack of trust there? is it because donald trump spent too much time in 2011, 2012, questioning the birth of president obama? >> i think, again, the mainstream media continues to cite one poll. if you go back and look during the primary process, and i was involved in this, in the state of south carolina, donald trump was receiving 25% of the african-american in the state of south carolina, a key battleground state during the primary process. if you look at what senator tim scott received, first african-american elected since reconstruction in south carolina, he received 18% of the black vote during that process. the issue is -- >> everything is great with donald trump? >> no, i'm saying is the totality. 1% nationwide on one sample. you're no the looking at the
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battleground states. >> the first poll in pennsylvania and ohio was just as bad. >> the numbers of democrats who have been registering to republicans is down 200,000 -- >> you're changing the subject. >> i'm not changing the subject. >> what we know with the democrats, who were registered in pennsylvania, are changing their party registration to register republican in epic proportions. it's happening in florida, iowa, pennsylvania. >> i think fundamentally, donald trump doesn't african-american community and to my opinion, he doesn't care about the african-american community. some people, whether it is his core supporters or republican party can feel more comfortable about voting for him. there is no real engagement. he can take whatever it is he thinks he is doing for us, and just not say anything at all. >> the softening edges is a good way to talk about immigration. >> thank you for that segue,
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john. he appears to be changing his opinion. he started saying every single illegal undocumented immigrant would be deported. this weekend, that changed. he spoked to the hispanic community leader, and kellyanne conway, his campaign manager said the plan is to be determined. why this shift? >> you heard what governor pence said and what donald trump has said on immigration will follow the constitution. that whatthat mea that means, i that means is the people that are here illegally need to identify who those people are. >> deporting every single one. >> we don't know who they are. there is at least 11 million. we've got convicted felons -- >> corey, what we do know -- >> is he open now to letting some of the 11 million people stay? >> he hasn't said that.
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>> maybe he hasn't said that. my question is do you think he is open to letting some of the 11 million people stay? >> what i think is he heard from the hispanic community about the importance of the family and keeping they will together and those individual whose were born here legally. but if you're not here legally, it he very premise, you've committed a crime. >> split up the families. >> uphold the contusion astitut >> we are 70 days away, and his immigration policy is tbd. that's astonishing. you can't be a presidential candidate and at this juncture, it is tbd. he could have been talking about reform. there are republicans that have given him cover in talking about that. but he hasn't. whereas from the democratic perspective, hillary clinton has been talking about this for years. i worked in her senate office. one of the first meetings she had was an immigration coalition talking about this issue. it's interesting we're going through these resets of donald trump's campaign, but tbd is not
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a policy. >> we'll hear what he has to say later on today. steve bannon, former coworker at breitbart, makes it clear that he is not voting for -- why he is guite wis the to work for him switching teams. we'll get answers next. to seal out water, dirt and germs, cover with a water block clear bandage from band-aid brand. listerine® total care strengthens teeth, after brushing, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care to the total family. listerine® total care. one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™.
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a new ceo of his campaign, steve bannon, head of breitbart, a conservative media site. curt bardella, helped him decide who he is voting for. he wrote, saying it is glaringly obvious donald trump does not have the temperament or judgment to occupy the oval office, this is one of those times where the best interest of the whole outweigh any party allegiances or any specific issue. it is why i've made the personal choice to vote for hillary clinton in november. joining us now, also cnn media correspondent host of "reliable sources" brian stelter.
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those familiar with breitbart will think it is remarkable that a guy that used to work there will vote for hillary clinton. explain. >> it is very true. i've had a lot of republican friends in my own personal life and my own circle, you know, raise that eyebrow of i can't believe you're considering and are at this case voting for hillary clinton. i said even if you were to take the worst case scenario about a hillary clinton presidency, it would be a disaster. i tell them then you're choosing between somebody who may be a disaster, but somebody else who will be catastrophic. we can recover from disaster, but we can't recover from catastrophe. it will be chaos, uncertainty, and he is not responsible or does he have the temperament. >> you've worked with steve bannon for a long time. you don't think that's a good move for the trump campaign, that he went to work for him if. >> it is a move that signal
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there is is an ambition to do something more beyond november, yonld the political sphere that reenforces what brian has talked about, which there is this desire by trump, and i think bannon as well, to launch a media venture, and that this presidency, run for office, is a set up to something bigger than that. that's another reason why i don't think you should vote for donald trump. i don't think that's his angle. it is to do something different. >> curt, that's really interesting, so you don't think -- do you think that in some ways, this has been a rouse, the presidential race. >> i don't think mr. trump thought he would be in this position. i think he is consulting with roger ailes, it tells you there is something else going on here, and that even the rhetoric of the trump campaign, targeting, fixating on the med yeah, bringing up how the election is
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rigged, he'll lose. it is laying the groundwork for something else. >> that's a separate issue that donald trump doesn't want to be president. he is doing it to get attention and start a company. leaving that aside, brian, the idea that the election is rigged is something donald trump talks about a lot. there is also something that plays into the idea that he is gaming the electoral system. rudy giuliani, you know, a big donald trump supporter over the weekend, suggesting that hillary clinton isn't healthy. that she has got health issues. it is something that is being rumor monitored including by breitbart.com, rudy giuliani was giving an interview, check the interview, and he is still doing it this morning. >> this is an idea that started in the fever swamps of the internet. because clinton did have a health scare in 2012. there has been a mountain of lies build on top of this grain of truth and doing damage i think to the republican party, because it is setting up this false impression that maybe clinton won't be able to be president, maybe she has a
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secret illness. that's the theory here that's underlined when donald trump says she doesn't have the stamina. we admire the 9/11 mayor, and right now, this is a sad situation for rudy giuliani to be encouraging viewers to google her health. i mean, come on. breitbart's website has dozens of stories, but it doesn't make it true. if you ask a clinton beat reporter, they'll tell you, she has incredible stan mina. say whatever you want, but she is spending her time out there, as does donald trump. i would hope, if people are googling her health, they're looking for the truth and not these lies. >> so kurt, in terms of conspiracy theories like that, do you think that is the influence of steve bannon and roger ailes on the campaign message? >> that has breitbart, you know, clickbait headline written all
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over it, but it tells you the kind of campaign we can expect in november. not a campaign of substance or ideas, that talks about specific policy initiatives, but about outrageous conspiracy theories, targeted at a specific audience. it won't help them appeal to the electorate. it is targeting an audience they want engaged for yonld tbeyond election. >> if there was a severe health problem, reporters would be on to it. it is foolish on its face, this theory, but it has taken root online, ma i online. sites like breitbart are helping to promote it. rudy giuliani is talking about googling it, you should check the facts, but rely on reliable sources. rely on substantive material, and not these kind of gossip websites. >> kurt, take us inside meetings at breitbart. how does a decision like this
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get made to start traffic like this? >> a lot of what brian said. find kernel, and it doesn't matter what the facts are, it doesn't matter what you believe. all that matter is people will click on it, read on it, talk about it, tv shows like this will do segments, and for them, that's a win. >> we have to look straight into the camera and say there is no evidence of this conspiracy theory. in fact, clinton's doctors have said as recently as last week, she is fit to serve as president. there is just not evidence to the contrary. if there is, it will be reported and should be reported. right now, they are sewing doubt about her health, and it is bad for the party because if she does win in november, people will say wait a second, i thought she couldn't be elected president. it will end up doing the party a disservice. >> thanks for the candor, kurt.
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great to talk to you about all this. turning to the olympics now. ryan lochte over-exaggerates aid gun point robbery. does it overshadow the big victories at the olympics. we look at that, next. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®. when heartburn comes creeping up on you.
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as we all know, rio loves to party and the olympics gave another reason to celebrate there. they passed the torch to tokyo,
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after two weeks of incredible performances, as well as a controversy involving the u.s. swimmers that did threaten at times to overshadow the games. for more on all of this, let's bring in sports correspondent, coy wire, and christine brennan. so great to get your reporting down from rio for the past couple of weeks, but i want to tell you about some reporting that has just come out in the past hour. this is a new ""people magazine"" interview with ryan lochte. he says some new information that you'll be interested to hear. here is the first thing he says. he made up the robbery. he admits it, sort of most plainly, that we've heard. he says the part that i made up was saying it was a robbery. i think the word robbery shocked a lot of people and the story went viral. a gun was pulled and we had to give them cash. if i didn't say robbery, none of this would have happened. christine, what do you think of that explanation? >> well, i think he is right
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about that. if his mom hadn't spoken, if he hadn't spoken out on that sunday, everything would be different. no one would know about it. the lying is terrible. the lying to the u.s. olympic committee, who brought him to the games, and of course, he represents the usoc and the united states, and eight days, that now the definitive word, which is just not a way to handle a scandal, you want to get in front of it quickly and of course, that's the complete opposite of what lochte and his people have done. >> one thing that's interesting to me, what's going to happen next for lochte. he is going to lose sponsorship, and i spoke to an executive with a sports and entertainment marketing group, closely connected with the games. he says in the eyes of sponsors, there are three types of infractions, doping tough for anyone to come back. the mishap during the games, between games, excuse me, in the off season if you will from
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which athletes can come back, as we've seen with michael phelps, but then the breach of integrity during the games that causes dissension and disgrace to the entire team. that's where lochte lies. he says that will be tough for him to come back from, because he is essentially throwing people under the bus. usually have to wait for another olympic games to redeem yourself, and that's a luxury lochte will not have. he is older. he is not kobe bryant, he is not michael phelps, and he can't come back to raise to those monetary mountain tops. he'll be hurting from this whole situation. >> let's talk about the closing ceremony. we know often the closing ceremonies are a bittersweet moment, kind of change, not all the athletes are there. you sometimes see the most, you know, interesting spectacles. i think one of the strangest things i've ever seen was this, you know, you're showing footage, the prime minister of japan, prime minister abe, super
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mario, a japanese company, the video play, and who pops out, the prime minister of japan, dressed as super mario. i give him huge credit for the sense of humor there. but i've never seen anything like that. >> no, john, i haven't either. it hearkens back to four years ago, when queen elizabeth filmed a video and it looked like she was jumping out of a plane into the london opening ceremonies, when it was a stunt double. it wasn't queen elizabeth. but that was that theme. this takes it a whole steph farther. there he is. it shows, i think, just how excited the folks in tokyo are. and you know, they're going to put on a great olympics and the organization will be fantastic. i give them great credit for doing that. >> they were having viewing parties in japan of the closing ceremony, keeping it under wraps what they were going to do, but the 12-year-old in me was loving
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that super mario. get these games ready to go. i hope and pray i'll be able to be there. i think they'll be pretty special. >> you've earned the right. c o coy and christine, thank you so much. >> the good stuff is next. sixteen gig lexar flash drives just three ninety-nine. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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today's good stuff comes from laredo, texas, where madelyn was born premature and not with all her ribs. what did she do? she took her situation, wrote about it, and got it all published. >> when, you know, i read the story and i get choked up and the fact that the editor called me and she was all choked up, didn't know to say. i'm just so proud. >> that was madelyn's dad who helped her publish the story, with one simple message in mind. >> it is okay to be afraid. >> wow, madelyn wrote this book with the intent to help other kids her age get through scary experiences. >> you know, that's what is so sporn for anybo important anybody. that's why books like this can make such a big difference.
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>> so valuable. great message. time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. hey, carol. >> hi, alisyn. hi, john. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening new in the "newsroom," does donald trump still want to deport millions? >> will that plan include a deportation force? >> to be determined. >> tbd? that's not what he has been saying. >> they will go out, they will come back, they have to come back legally. >> plus, mike pence one-on-one. >> are you comfortable with his message singh. >> i'm comfortable with the team donald trump is building around it. >> sharing a ticket and courting min minute -- minority voters. >> did colin powell tell hillary clinton to use private e-mails. depends on who you

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