tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN August 23, 2016 6:00pm-7:01pm PDT
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jeff sessions is at the podium now. he's expected to make news making what appears on the face of it to be a distinct change in his policy on the people in this country illegally what he himself this afternoon called a soften. jason is in austin and he joins us now. what are you hearing about this softening. >> reporter: we're mentioning jeff sessions. i spoke to him and asked him this question about something donald trump said earlier today where he talked about softening his position on illegal immigration and let me give you the proper context. he was asked a question about those illegal immigrants living here in the united states, contributing to society,
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possibly with kids and he was asked would you deport those people as well or could there be a softening in terms of his position. he said yes. when i asked senator jeff sessions about that he really struggled to deal with this particular issue. i said is that something you support? do you support a softening of the position and he said, look, donald trump is not softening his position on the legality of illegal immigration. when he was pushed further even senator jeff sessions subpoenaed th said this is something that donald trump is wrestling with. this is an issue that donald trump and the campaign is going to have to deal with and they're going to have to come out with specifics. his position has evolved over time. he said i'm going to deport the illegal immigrants living in this country and then the bad
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ones an then i'm going to do what president obama is doing. we expect him to address that particular issue here tonight. he's not going to give an immigration policy speech here tonight but he is here in texas, this is a boarder state, he's expected to address that issue at some point when he takes the stage tonight. >> even last night he talked about president obama deporting large numbers of people under existing laws in a favorable way. it was actually interesting to hear him saying something positive about president obama which is not something you hear very often from donald trump. >> reporter: right, something you do not hear very often but this is a position that the candidate is still evolving on. when you talk to the campaign, what they will tell you is that what donald trump is doing at this point is talking to people, getting advice in terms of how to proceed with his ideas and his proposals. it looks like donald trump is about to take the stage right now anderson.
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so we'll hear him possibly in just a few minutes if he can get some specifics in terms of how his policy has evolved. anderson. >> thanks very much. donald trump is starting to come to the stage. before he starts talking we should also just point out the trump campaign got some good news today in hillary clinton, the ap reporting that hillary clinton used the state department clinton foundation charity as a kind of -- these are trump's words a pay to play scheme. the clinton foundation disputes that. we've more about this dispute. we'll have more on that of course and we'll listen here if donald trump speaks about this. no doubt he will because it definitely fits into one of the trump campaign themes really focusing on the clinton foundation. let's listen in to donald trump tonight in austin, texas. ♪
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>> thank you, everybody. thank you. thank you, everybody. i am so happy to be back in the great state of texas. thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] the people of texas are proud. they're independent and they are free. there is no better place to deliver the message i have to deliver tonight than right here, right in the middle of freedom.
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thank you. tonight's message is about redeclaring our independence as a country. on november 8th, a very very important date, we are going to declare our independence from special interests, corrupt politicians and i might add very corrupt politicians. and from a rigged system that benefits only the insiders. we're going to bring our jobs back. we're bringing them back to our country and we're going to create millions of new jobs. we are going to declare our independence from politicians
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who don't listen to us and medicina executives that dona y don't care about us and by the way never report our massive and very very friendly crowds, that's for sure. we are going to declare our independence from rising crime, soaring poverty rates and crushing crushing debt. >> we're going to continue to monitor this. we're looking for his points on immigration policy tonight. i want to bring in jeff zeleny who is joining us now reporting on the clinton foundation and the reporting by the associated press. what did they find. >> in a nut shell this associated press report says that more than half the people that met with hillary clinton as secretary of state met with the clinton foundation. the clinton campaign is pushing back hard on this report
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tonight. in a statement spokesman brian fallon says this. he says this story relies on utterly flawed data. it cher picked a subset of hillary clinton's schedule to give a distorted portrayal of how often she crossed paths with individuals that gave to the clinton foundation. the data does not account for more than half of her tenure as secretary of state. anderson. >> donald trump, how has he been reacting to this ap report about the clinton foundation because it comes at a good time for the trump campaign. it's something they have been focusing on for the last several day. >> donald trump and mike pence have been calling for the clinton foundation to be shut down. tonight they're using this story to fire up supporters as another example to suggest the clintons are corrupt. trump says this is pay to play but we have no evidence of that in our own reporting here after going over thousands of e-mails
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and there are more e-mails still to come here but there's no question it creates at least the appearance of conflicts and for the clinton campaign that's another headache here this ongoing controversy but tonight a state department spokesman told cnn that donors to the foundation do request meetings, they're interested in goebl affairs and humanitarian affairs. they say there's nothing impossible about this. but this gives fresh meat to the trump campaign and i suspect he will use it tonight. >> i guess one of the questions to be determined is did they get these meetings because they're donating to the foundation or did they get these meetings with the state department and are they requesting these meetings through the clinton foundation and then they get the ball rolling that way. still a lot to be learned. the panel is back and joined this hour by washington post political reporter. how important is this because it certainly plays into the narrative that donald trump and
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mike pence have been hitting hard. >> one of the things that hillary clinton didn't want to have happen is the tone of the campaign shift. we saw before the convention that the fbi came out and was talking about her e-mails and her numbers sank as a result of that. i will say in terms of how bad things could be for hillary clinton this is a fresh story, i think this is probably not that bad over the long run because it's the clinton foundation and there are a lot of gaps in that ap story in terms much who she met with and what the relationship was i think that donald trump will be in a great position here if he hadn't started taking contributions because one of the things it shows is how sausage is made in d.c. it's an ugly process. donald trump would be stronger on this if he could say i'm not taking money. >> also paul, donald trump gave more than $100,000 to the clinton foundation so was he also -- if it was pay to play,
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it seems like was that part of why he was giving money. >> kelly ann told you his motives were pure and others weren't. 12 of the 40 paragraphs were devoted to hillary meeting with humis. i know about him because he was friends when bill clinton was governor of arkansas. he won the congressional gold medal. >> that's what the clinton campaign has come forward and said -- >> it's 12 out of the 40 paragraphs in the story. i'm not cherry picking. it's the plurality of the analysis of the ap. this is a man who has done more to alleviate poverty than anybody alive today. >> he had a visa problem. >> so what. what's wrong with that? >> that's what voters decide. >> people have visa problems. what the hell. >> let me make a broader point. this is a new thing. this is why clinton people get
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angry. when i was helping to run clinton's campaign against bush senior. we thought it was great. we didn't research it or attack. journalists didn't look through it either. when bob dole was running the senate his wife was running the foundation. the clintons are scum. the clintons get the presumption of criminality and it makes me a angry. >> who are the kind of people who give to the clinton foundation? international and national fill an throw misses are who concerned with the state of affairs, the health, earthquakes of folks around the world. who meets with the secretary of state those same folks. >> there's a social component to the clinton global initiative it's rubbing elbows with hillary
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clinton and bill clinton. there's plenty of organizations you can do that. >> they've been rated in the top levels of the non-profit ratings. again, the people -- and paul's right the campaign is right on the ap validity and the way they did the reporting which is for it but i'm not sprurprised that secretary of state met with the kind of people that are secretary of state of should be talking with. >> the essence of the problem here is her judgment and i just find it remarkable after all of the controversieies she has had and president clinton has had throughout their entire career she gets a clean slate and four years later she's embroiled in condition versesies. that's because she has poor judgment whether it's a server in her basement or whether it's the mix between the clinton foundation and the state
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department. that's a bad thing to do. on its surface you should say we've got to have some sort of separation here or we shouldn't be putting servers in the judgme basement. that's a judgment question. >> he said look, people are make ag big deal about this, a conflict of interest and people are going to die because of this because of the 9 million or people so get low-cost hiv drugs or free hiv drugs because of the work of the clinton foundation and others. what do you say to him. >> i think that's hyperbole. somebody is going to die. the clinton foundation they have partne partnerships with ngos all over the world. i'm sure someone could pick up the slack. i don't think all the partners they work with are not going to pick up the slack for the clinton foundation no longer being in existence like the
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former democratic governor of pennsylvania said it would need to shut down because it has the appearance of improprity and he had to walk that because how come it didn't like like a conflict of interest when she was secretary of state but it will if she's president. the clinton foundation, the national review said it is ethically insufficient, there were lines that were blurred between the clinton foundation and the state department. every week now we're seeing more and more people who have that relationship with the clinton foundation and the official business at the state department and it's what everybody thinks is pay to play in washington. this is a perfect example of it. >> we have to take a quick break. we'll have more with the panel about this and donald trump's shifting immigration policy. we'll continue watching this event tonight with an eye out for any remarks he makes about immigration or any other headlines. i love my shop,
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would have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. they're illegal immigrants. they got to go out. >> how do you do it in a practical way. >> at some point we're going to try getting them back, the good ones. >> you're going to have a deportation force. >> are you going to be sending in officers. >> we're going to be sending people in a very nice way. we're going to be giving notice. we're going to be saying you have to go. we have at least 11 million people in this country that came in illegally. they will go out. they will come back some will come back, the best, through a process. they have to come back legally. >> back with us is jeffry lord, trump supporter and a hillary supporter. do you think this is a change in policy because it certainly sounds like it. he's no longer talking about all 11 million have to leave and the good ones come back. he has 26% to hillary clinton's
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50%. do you think this can help him? >> i don't know what it is we're hearing because frankly we've heard very little from him on the issue. he was supposed to give a policy speech on thursday and he's pushed it back to a to be determined date. i think what you're watching is a temperature of the water. they're putting in one toe at a time and you are seeing a positive influence from kelly ann conway who knows this issue and knows that the way he has hattle handled this issue is a political looser for donald trump and the republican party and she has been doing her very good job of baby-sitting this bull in the china shop that she inherited. but i have a very hard time reacting to donald trump's policy when we haven't heard him articulate it. what we have heard is i think a balloons being thrown by kelly ann and other members. when we hear him say it we can react to it.
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it's been 15 months and this isn't like that movie men in black where they have little thing where you erase the memory, you press it and erase the memory, latinos remember, immigrants remember, all of america remembers and this man has based his campaign on bashing immigrants. >> is this a trial balloon. >> i don't know. i don't think that he's changichanging the direction of his policy. >> he's not saying 11 million have to leave anymore. that's a big change. in your opinion he's tough on immigration and building a wall and mexicans are going to pay for it. >> but he still wants to have a tough immigration policy. >> 11 million people which is a huge number of people will no longer have a deportation force. >> if that's a change, then that's a change. i don't think it's a change of the ultimate policy objective.
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>> who do you think this is aimed at. >> it's certainly not aimed at latino voters because latino voters and i think most common sense americans who agree with comprehensive immigration reform and some sort of pathway to citizenship or legalization they're not going do unsee or unhear the last days especially when he called mexicans rapists and criminals followed by a deportation force and families need to go back to their home countries and some of them can be brought back. he talked about the judge. that was seen as a very racist bigoted comment towards latinos. i don't think it will be geared towards latinos. he's not going to get the threshold of the 44% that any republican candidate will need to win.
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i think it's geared toward these independent more republican leaning suburban college educated white voters which he's losing to hillary clinton and if he doesn't gain ground with them mitt romney won them and lost the election. >> donald trump has the failed policies of president obama. last night on o'reilly i want to play what he said about immigration but also a reference to -- we don't have the sound bite. he said that what people don't know is that obama got tremendous numbers of people out of the country, bush the same thing. a lot of people were brought out of the country with the existing laws. i'm going to do the same thing. it's interesting to hear him now saying actually president obama did get a lot of people out of the country and he's essentially going to follow in his footsteps. you waereren't advising him on t i suppose. >> no. i just think that he as all the
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politicians do, the good ones, the ones that win, they keep the ultimate objective in mind and it's like sailing, you go this way, you go this way, but the ultimate objective is to get here. >> but it's weird not -- what i never understand is why can't a politician say this is a change because i've evolved on the issue, i've learned something. >> right. correspondingly, i know this media storm that's going to come around this is this is the kind of thing that drives people out there in the countryside crazy because they think the media picks on some morsele and goes nuts with it. >> this is the whole chunk of cheese. >> the whole encha lada. >> you can say that.
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>> i had somebody say to me stop me in a store in pennsylvania yesterday and say to me if donald trump sneezed, cnn would spend four days saying he's damaged the environment. now that -- that's the kind of perception out there. not just about cnn but the medicine i can't you media at large. >> you know what i think is also another huge pickle for donald trump and his campaign and why people like ojeffry lord and kelly ann, the majority of republican voters during the primary season who voted for him voted for him primarily because of his draconian stance on immigration reform, because he was talking about deporting them all and talking about building the wall. >> there were a bunch of other republicans on that stage not going that far. >> yes. >> in fact --
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>> you know what's striking is that since day one this immigration issue, the theme of build a wall has been the pillar on which he has built his campaign. we are now 2 1/2 months out from election day and a month and a half out from absentee ballots going out and he's going to issue an immigration policy speech and he can't issue it because he's not sure what he's going to say. you know what i get the sense of when i hear kelly ann conway who i have great respect for is she has this imaginary candidate in her head. she says we're going to talk about issues. we're not going to talk about personalities. it's been donald trump who has made it a personality contest. she says we're going to talk about issues we're not going to hurl personal insults. it's been donald trump whose hurled personal insults at absolutely everybody. so i have a hard time reconci
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reconciling what kelly ann saying and the donald trump we have seen for the last 16 months. >> we have to leave it there. we are monitoring this donald trump rally tonight. he did talk about building a wall, but again we're listening for any more clarification or what he says actually about those 11 million undocumented workers. more with the panel as well as we continue. americans... ... 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's gummies. complete with key nutrients we may need... ...plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. one a day vitacraves gummies. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through?
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donald trump has questioned hillary clinton's mental and physical stamina and there are unfounded claims about her health floating around. clinton responded to those claims with a big dose of humor on jimmy kimmel live. >> are you in good health? >> well, this is has become one of their themes. take my pulse while i'm talking to you. >> okay. >> so make sure i'm alive. >> there's nothing there. >> there's nothing there. i don't know why they are saying this. i think on the one hand it's part of the whacky strategy, say all these crazy things and maybe you can get some people to
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believe you and on the other hand it makes no sense. >> donald trump is two years older than secretary clinton. what do we know about his own health, not a lot but what we do know is it's sort of unusual. donald trump released a letter from his doctor last year, a few paragraphs what is from the gast rolgs claiming trump would be the healtheest individual ele elected. let's check in with dr. sonjay gupta. trump would be the healthiest individual elected to the presidency. what evidence did the doctor give. >> there was no evidence and i think it's probably one of those things that unknowable. i was really struck by that as well. you mentioned that doesn't sound like a medical document. nobody writes like that when you look at the medical notes in the charts usually it's much more factual and objective supported
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by test results. i don't know what to make of that. we know his age and a few minor facts but not much more. >> the information we do have donald trump's health is this four paragraph letter. what else jumps out from it. >> i think a lot of it had to do with the language and how a little in terms of data. first of all, at some point the doctor says there's only positive results that donald trump has exhibited. only positive ruesults. in medicine if a test is positive that's not a good thing. that means that you found something that you probably don't want to find. >> there's a lot of tests you would not want to be declared positive for. >> right. that's one of those things in medicine. you think a doctor who would write this wouldn't refer to something as having positive results. also he uses the term astonishingly excellent.
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the hyper boly is remarkable. they look the the normal blood pressure and they talk about the fact he takes a daily aspirin but we don't know his cholesterol or the risk of heart disease. there's hints of things without objective data. >> what about the doctor himself, what do you know about him? >> it's interesting. we've done a little bit of digging into it. this letter as you point out is something to look at and it's filled with grammar errors but with his title he refers to himself as a fellow of the american college of gastroenterology. that's gi medicine. we called them. he hasn't been a fellow since there '95. so over 20 years ago he was a fellow. he talks about the fact he's a member of the division of gi at this particular hospital. he's not listed as a member there. he does have admitting privileges at this hospital but
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he is not actually a member of the division that he says he's a member of. i don't quite know what to make of that. you know a letter like this about a presidential candidate is going to get scrutinized quite a bit, so why are these anticsies in the letter i don't know. what i can tell you about your original question, you want more information whether you're a doctor or journalist, there's just not that much here. >> thanks very much. >> thank you. coming up we'll be taking a look more at donald trump's speech tonight speaking right now in austin, texas and gary tuckman talking to voters in austin asking them particularly african-american voters about donald trump's comments about what do they have to lose by voting for him. more ahead. ♪
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african-american community, give donald trump a chance. we will turn it around. we will make your streets safe. so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot, which is what's happening now. >> gary tuckman is in austin with african-american voters who have been watching trump's speech tonight. he joins me now. >> we're about 30 minutes away from the venue of where the speech is. we're with 20 african-americans here. actors, teachers, lawyers, mothers, fathers, volunteers, nine democrats, six republicans, nine independents. i want to ask you how many of you are supporting donald trump for president. we've got two people. how many are not supporting donald trump for president. most of the people are not. he just said a short time ago, i say this to the african-american community, give donald trump a chance. you are willing to give donald trump a chance.
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what is your name. >> marilyn jackson. >> you're a republican. >> i am. >> what do you think of the speech. >> i'm trying to hear it. so far it sounds like a traditional politician, but i'm still listening to some of the points that he's saying. >> he said i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created, believe me. do you believe me. >> i put my trust in god but we'll have to see. i believe he can bring it about but we'll have to see. >> you like what he says about the african-american community, he's talked about it but he hasn't gone to the inner city to talk to the african-americans yet. >> he hasn't. he's brought up points that are valid regarding african-americans, crime and death rates and things like that. he does say he will make it better. we'll have to see. all politicians say the same thing and we still have to see. >> this gentleman right here, i've seen you chuckling a couple of times at some of the things he said. sorry. there's a table here. my photographer almost tripped on it.
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are you okay? how come you've been chuckling so much. >> because he'll make a good point and then he'll take it way too far and that's the biggest issue we have with politics right now is you have people that feel like they have to play to an extreme to make important points. i think most of the people in this room, we agree with what the issues are but when you're going too left or right it's absurd. >> when he talks about african-americans being shot in their neighborhoods and on their sidewalks is that insulting. >> absolutely. i realize that's something happening in our communities but i think it's insulting because he's using it for political points. he's trying to score points but he's made not outreach with african-american voters. >> have you been shot. >> no, sir. >> has anyone here been shot? anyone here at all? we have 20 people. you're a republican supporting donald trump. have you been shot. >> no. >> does it insult you that he says that. i take it he hasn't said if it's literal or fugiti
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literal. >> my father was killed when i was 16. he was murdered and no one was arrested. >> that's probably the point he's trying to make. >> one of the things that disturbs me about the speeches. i'm not impressed by the speech. >> but you're a trump supporter. >> i'm impressed that he mentioned education which is something that is important and dear to all of us which i haven't heard any other candidate mention at all. >> are you planning on voting for donald trump. >> i sure am. >> 20 people from the same area in texas but some with different opinions. back to you. >> thanks very much and please thank them all for sticking around to talk to us tonight. back with our panel for a reaction. you've been tough on donald trump in terms of the way he has gone about this and some of the words he's used. it's interesting tonight to hear him say give donald trump a chance although i find it fascinating when donald trump talks about themselves in the third person, when does a human
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decide i'm going to talk about myself. anderson cooper wants to ask you what do you think -- i didn't hear him tonight say what have you got to lose. is there a difference? >> i think that he is again -- this is the influence of the new regime of the campaign where they realize that it was a mistake the language he used last week. still he has yet to announce when he's actually going to go in front of a black audience and speak about these things. he needs to do that. it's being reported they're planning a trip to detroit possibly with den carson who is going to give him a tour of detroit and maybe go to a school. they have to do this because the rhetoric has been so insulting. you saw the reaction by people of color and since last week when he made those comments the campaign has been basically
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whitesplaning away his comments. we haven't seen a peep of her in a couple of days. where's the outreach effort coming. they're depending on the rnc for field operations. this is not typical. >> do you want to see donald trump talking to an fre african-american church. >> absolutely. tonight i got word that the state of south korea south caroo do away with the state dinner because they had slaves. they're going to do away with it so we're always trying to change and evolve and donald trump is. clearly he's done things in the past that made him a better person. he was on the cutting edge of letting people in mar largo. >> that's not true. >> that's a horrible talking point. i disputed this last night. stop using that as an example of donald trump is martin luther
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king now. the cutting edge of civil rights, the reason why he sued the palm beach area for that is because he was trying to make changes in that club and the people in palm beach looked at him as new money and he used the black and jewish membership issue to get leverage of what he wanted. >> is you making inroads with african-americans. >> i don't believe he can because whether you say something slightly nicer, the facts go back to everything he has said in a con descending way and the facts are this was a man sued for housing discrimination and -- >> which was settled without him -- >> nonetheless -- >> i'm just stating a fact. >> i mean think about how far you're talking too. >> the doj case was one issue. you have a man here who has defaulted on small business owners, many of them people of
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color. you have a plan that offers nothing significant to the african-american community and you have donald trump saying i want to limit violence. i don't want people to be shot when he's been endorsed by the nra and won't support any gun measures that would help get guns off our street. >> the guy is reaching out trying to show that he has a plan. >> he's making an effort. >> it hasn't been working the way under the last leadership and he's -- >> you don't believe he's reaching out. >> i don't believe he's stupid enough to think that he's going to get african-american votes. he's trying to reassure and reach out to moderate whites to say i'm not a raicist. he has more votes from the david duke crowd. >> we've got to take quick break. from the presidential campaign to the front lines to fighting isis, iraqi forces making big gains in recent months. engineering...h this f
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battleground. right now isil is inching closer. arwa damon reports on the gains made in recent days. >> under apocalyptic skies is the next target for iraqi forces. isis used to move around 100 oil tankers of crude a day out of these fields. now set aflame by isis fighters to decrease visibility from above. we are some 65 kilometers or 40 miles south of mosul, lands iraqi forces have not stepped in since isis took over more than two years ago, their corpses left to rot in the sun. and the commander tells us isis appears to be weakening. >> before i told you the majority of fighters attacking us were foreign fighters. now they put some foreign
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fighters with local fighters, i think they have lack on the foreign fighters. >> on display weapons troops found in residential homes, among them homemade mortar tubes and mortars larger than anything the iraqis have at their disposal and the gayetta air base, leaving spiels piles of explosives on the run ways. famili families wearily haul what they can. >> they took our men, forced them to fight for them. they took my father. >> the lives they knew and loved
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disintegrated years ago. to the southeast of mosul, the kurdish peshmerga have pushed their front line forward as well. the peshmerga offensive berm snakes its way along the east and north. here, too, they have noticed isis weakening, showing us how isis moves in nondisscript building. they did take a few steps into what appear to be some sort of tunnel. rather than take their chances, they decided to withdraw and seal the entrance. >> the choke hold on isil is tightening and the government's pledge to liberate the city by the end of the year is still the goal. success will be defined and land gained, not lives destroyed or lost.
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>> arwa, it's really some extraordinary reporting. what's the latest you're seeing on the ground? >> well, we just left gayetta a few hours ago and the iraqi security forces have managed to move in and capture according to some arm ear commanders the oum refinerie refi -- oil refineries. according to the commanders, these 10,000 families are stuck inside and we know isis has a history of using civilians as human shields. what we're really seeing on the ground there is just a fraction of the challenges the army will be facing and the potential devastating plight of the population that remains trapped inside mosul. the population is estimated to be between 1 million to 1.5 million people. >> that's incredible.
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>> that does it for us. thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. >> trump taking aim at hillary clinton at his rally in texas tonight. >> the scandal i speak of is the state department's pay for play. it right now being looked at very seriously. probably nothing will happen, even though it should happen. >> hillary clinton fighting accusations against her family foundation, laughing off dubious question about her health and planning to target trump's embrace in the
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