that's what makes it so tragic. the >> what do you know in terms of the ability of this community, this area to deal with a magnitude problem like this? >> reporter: well, this is a seismic area, so they're used to small tremors. in 2009, there was a devastating earthquake that just leveled one of the towns not so far up the road from here. they have the means and civil protection are very well versed in how to save people from these situations. the problem is the area of devastation and the access points. it's been very difficult. we haven't seen any heavy equipment come up this country lane yet. this is one of the roads to the hardest hit area. we can't get up there. the roads are blocked. they can't get up there either. this is a multistory building behind me that's now flattened out. you still see the tomato plants in the front garden of the

house. this is rural italy. what makes this area so beautiful also makes it so deadly, these ancient buildings. >> thank you for the update. we'll check back in throughout the program for the status of what's happening there. joining us now by phone is eve reid. she's staying in the town of monte san martino. tell us how you are at this hour and what you felt when the earthquake struck. >> hi, yes. still quite shaken, to be honest. we've not seen much devastation. we're in a very rural area. we literally are quite isolated. we were woken just after 3:30 a.m. aisleal yan time with some quite severe shaking of our beds and rooms. there's ten of us staying here in a farmhouse. i guess shock kicked in straightaway.

>> we're looking at pictures you've taken of your farmhouse. we can see particularly in the bathroom where there's damage, the ceiling has fallen in. you can see the cracks in the ceiling of the bedroom and the wall. i understand you have three generations of your family staying in that farmhouse right now. how old are the kids? >> my children are 2 and 6. my niece and nephew 10 and 13. so varying ages. our youngest went straight back to sleep again after the earthquake had happened. >> what about the older ones? what was their reaction to this experience? >> they were scared. we were all shaken, as i said earlier. we're all still a little bit shaky, not really knowing what's going on. obviously we're very lucky in comparison to lots of people here. i think in a way that makes it more difficult to come to terms with. >> what was the shaking like? how violent was it?

how long did it last? >> it was quite violent. obviously i'm english, so we're not experiencing earthquakes to an extent. so it was a very dichblt experience for all of us. it felt quite violent. it lasted for probably six or seven seconds after we were awake and awoken by it. i'm guessing somewhere in the region of ten seconds. >> what are the aftershocks like? >> they were quite severe to start with. i haven't felt one for an hour or so. quite minor. you can still feel them and feel the things in the cupboards moving. so yeah, still around, i should think. >> well, what a scary experience, eve. thank you for sharing your experience with us. obviously the best to your family and your kids there. >> thank you very much.

>> all right. we'll stay on this story this morning. but there's another situation to tell you about. isis is under attack in northern syria as turkish tanks backed by jets and u.s. coalition war planes crossed the border, blasting the militants from the border town. turkish jets and artillery have been carrying out shelling and artillery, targeting at least 93 militant hot spots. turkish-backed rebel forces are also in the region. okay. now to the big story back home here. donald trump says he may be, quote, softening his hard line stance on immigration, saying he might be open to allowing some undocumented immigrants to stay in the u.s. trump also using a new report to attack the clinton foundation. the clinton camp is firing back. cnn national correspondent jessica schneider is tracking all of the latest developments for us. jessica, what is the latest? >> reporter: the latest is that donald trump is honing in on his attacks of hillary clinton, also of the clinton foundation. in fact, calling it a foundation

that is a business that used political clout to make advances. so donald trump was in austin, texas, last night. he talked about hillary clinton honing in on those attacks, but he also focused in on maybe softening his stance on immigration. >> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation ends and the state department begins. >> reporter: donald trump honing his rally cry, attacking hillary clinton and her family's name sake foundation. >> the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. >> reporter: trump seizing on a new report by the associated press that claims more than 50% of the private citizens hillary clinton met with during her tenure as secretary of state were donors to the clinton foundation. >> this is corruption. and this is why i have called for a special prosecutor. >> reporter: the clinton campaign mincing no words in denouncing the ap's report,

disputing the findings in a statement, saying this story relies on utterly flawed data. it cherry picked a limited subset of secretary clinton's schedule to give a distorted portrayal of how often she crossed paths with individuals connected to charitable donations to the clinton foundation. the data does not account for more than half of her tenure as secretary, and it omits more than 1700 meetings she took with world leaders. the state department also releasing a statement saying it's entirely within the law that individuals, including those who have donated to political campaigns, make contact or have meetings with officials in the administration. this as trump confirms he may consider softening his hard line stance on immigration, allowing some law-abiding undocumentedmeundocumented immigrants to stay in the u.s. >> there certainly can be a softening. we're not looking to hurt people. we have some great people in this country. >> reporter: this is a major reversal from his key campaign proposal to round up and deport

all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. >> how do you do it in a practical way? >> at some point, we're going to try getting them back, the good ones. 11 million people in this country that came in illegally, they will go out. >> reporter: at a rally in texas, the billionaire did not back off from another campaign promise, that wall between the u.s. and mexico. >> we are going to build the wall. and who's going to pay for the wall? >> mexico! >> reporter: trump planning to meet with latino and african-american activists on thursday as he also continues his pitch to minority voters. >> i say this to the african-american community, give donald trump a chance. we will turn it around. we will make your streets safe so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot. >> reporter: so donald trump repeating those same lines about inner city crime that have raised eyebrows.

but his campaign pledging he will continue that outreach. rnc chair reince priebus, in fact, saying yesterday trump wants to go after every minority vote in this country. chris and alisyn? >> all right, jessica. appreciate it. thank you very much. let's discuss exactly what the implications of this clinton calendar situation is. we have "washington post" reporter philip rucker. national political reporter for real clear politics, rebecca berg. and cnn political commentator and columnist for "the new york times," charles blow. charles, trump has a simple strategy. make clinton look like a felon. we get why he's pushing this very hard. but when you look at the calendar and the overlaps of the dates, the clinton campaign says ap cherry picked its calendar information. if they're even close in terms of showing the overlap, what does it do to the standard of semblance of impropriety? any outward appearance of doing the wrong thing. >> i think the word there is the appearance, right.

that's the problem they have. the trump campaign is looking for appearance of something wrong. what the ap did was look at just the nongovernment meetings. many of these people would have gotten meetings with the secretary of state anyway, right. one is like a bangladeshi, you know, nobel prize winner. these are the kind of people, but they also donated to the clinton foundation. this is the problem, big-money donations are messy in america. internationally, they're even more messy. when you get -- when you're dealing with that universe of people, you're going to have that sort of problem. donald trump was a -- was a big money donor to the clinton foundation, and they showed up at his wedding. this is the sort of thing that happens. what the problem becomes is he's going to press for 70 days this

idea that there's some overlap that's inappropriate. this is what people worried about when clinton was going into this. >> absolutely. congress was worried about this. rebecca, congress tried to set up these rules because they knew this would be a problem. they understood the incestuous nature of this. they tried to set up rules. in fact, senator luger said you should forego any foreign contributions. they didn't do that. but it wasn't illegal. everything the ap found and the clinton camp is responding to, not illegal, but enough of an inappropriate feeling. >> absolutely. when we were talking about the e-mails and hillary clinton's private server, we were talking about an actual potential criminal investigation there that she might have violated the law. but this is just the perception of impropriety. perception that she was letting her donors have an advantage over some others. >> buying access. that's what it feels like.

>> exactly. this is why when hillary clinton became secretary of state, president obama and his administration urged her to create some sort of fire wall between the clinton foundation and whatever bill clinton was doing with the foundation and what she was doing as secretary of state. she decided not to. that was her decision and her aides' decisions and their recommendation. now she's paying the price politically potentially. >> philip rucker, is being illegal the bar for whether or not something should be right for one of our leaders in government? >> well, it's all in the eye of the voters, of course politically. i think this is damaging for clinton. it speaks to the broader fear that people have of her, that the rules don't apply to her and donors have special access and she would be part of the status quo system in washington. that's the argument that donald trump is trying to make with his new campaign team and really make the selection hinge on clinton's character and judgment and ethics. they feel like if they can get on that issue base and not talk

about these trump controversies, he might have a chance to turn this campaign around. >> an interesting coupling here. you have hillary clinton, who now you have a basket of examples of how the system works, right. she's seen as an agent of the status quo. and she's running against a guy, donald trump, who uses that system as much as anybody so the question becomes is he the right change agent. >> let's talk about donald trump and what happened last night. he was at a rally in austin. he admitted that he is maybe softening his stance on deportation, that all along for the past year everybody said was completely impractical, you weren't going to be able to deport 11-plus million undocumented workers. now he's come around. is that politically harmful or helpful? >> there's a lie here and there's a big one. either he was lying the entire campaign, the primary campaign when he was baiting the nationalists and tor he's lyingt

softening his stance and what he's going to do when he takes office. one of these things is a lie, and it's a huge lie. we have yet to figure out which one it is, what is the truth of it. maybe we won't know that until after an election and god forbid, from my perspective, he is elected. but something there is not right. i'm not sure that his -- if his base believes that he is softening, which is another way of saying waffling, which is another way of psaying completey going back on your promise, it could hurt. i think they give him a pass. >> the challenge for hillary clinton and her campaign, as donald trump begins to soften his language, even if he's not changing his stances in any sort of meaningful way, at least he's trying to sound more sensitive when it comes to the issue of immigration. the challenge for hillary clinton over the next two months will be reminding voters,

undecided, persuadable voters that donald trump did hold these extreme positions on immigration for the length of this election to date. and she needs to make the point now that he is going to hold those views in the white house. but it's very hard. as charles pointed out, he is in the process of flip-flopping. it seems he doesn't have any strongly held views of his own on this issue, and it's going wherever the political winds take him. >> phil, this is the calculus for him on this. somebody came to him and said, this position is killing you with the undecideds and the college educated white republican voters. it's killing you, this issue. you can't get any minorities. you have to change. now he's changing. so what's the plus/minus in doing it? >> what he's trying to do is get rid of this label of him as a racist. the associated press poll in july found that 65% of all americans think that word applies to him in some way. that's a real problem for donald trump, not only with minority voters but with a lot of white voters, especially white women

who are right now turned off by his candidacy, and he's trying to soften his language to do this outreach to african-americans and latinos as well to convince these people that he's a more compassionate person, that he's not a racist person and that he would be an inclusive president. so that's one piece. the other piece is this immigration policy. he's softening his language a little bit, but he's not actually explained what this specific policy is and what he would do with the 11 million people here in the country illegally. i think he's going to flesh that out in the next couple of weeks. that's what his aides are telling me. but to this date, we do not have that specific policy. >> we do also want to talk about donald trump courting -- or his attempt to court minority voters. so stick around. also, hillary clinton preparing to deliver a big speech linking donald trump to the controversial alt right. that's the new term you'll be hearing. it's the far-right movement. what does this suggest about her republican rival?

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donald trump continuing his pitch to african-american voters a the a rally in austin, texas, last night. he's asking them to give him a chance. >> with rates of crime, with rates of poverty like you've just heard, what do you have to lose? i will fix the problem. we will fix it. i say this to the african-american community, give donald trump a chance. we will turn it around. we will make your streets safe so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot. >> all right. let's bring back our panel. we have philip rucker, rebecca berg, and charles blow. charles, has he won you over with that speech? >> first, we have to stop calling this an outreach to black people. it's not. >> what is it? >> it's an outreach to white

people. we all know it's a lie. >> why is it -- >> because it is the most insidious kind of bigotry. it's the kind of bigotry that says i will knock you down while i pretend to pick you up. it says, i'm not talking to you, i'm talking to the guy behind you or over your shoulder. it's the kind of bigotry that says i'm urinating on you and telling you do dance in the rain. this is the most horrible kind of bigotry. the fact that people keep asking the same question, particularly to black commentators like me, is he reaching out to black people, he is not reaching out to black people. there's nothing about this appeal that has any resonance with anyone black that i can even find. i even looked at the largest black websites i could find just so see if anybody was taking this seriously. not a single person that i could find was taking it seriously. only people taking it seriously was white people. >> but the white voters you say he's reaching out to, doesn't he already have them? >> no, he does not have the ones

you were just talking about in your last segment. it is the moderate ones who say, i don't want to be the woman, man who votes for the racist guy. if this guy can now change his opinion, i do want to be a conservative, but i don't want to be a conservative who votes for the racist guy. now he's different. well, actually, he's not different. he's not talking to us. he's pretending to talk to us as he talks to you. and this is an insult to all people of color, both black, hispanic, and otherwise because he is using us as pawns to get to you. you do not get an out. president guy was a bigot yesterday. he's a bigot today. he'll be a bigot tomorrow. if you vote for him, you're voting for a bigot. >> rebecca, critics point out he's speaking to invariably white audiences while reaching out to the black community. is that a meaningful distinction? >> it's important optics. you have people on campaigns who their whole job is to make sure a rally looks the way it's supposed to in terms of the

message you're trying to project. it does matter if you're trying to genuinely appeal to a hispanic audience, an african-american audience to show there are people in those communities actually listening to you actively in person. but i agree with charles here. that's not what he's doing. he's reaching out to college effected white voters to try to assuage some of their concerns that he's too crass, that he's not sensitive to minorities, to women, some of these key demographics. >> you think he helps himself by saying i'm going to help you so you don't get shot when you're walking down the street? >> that's the question, right. his approach is a little, shall we say, unusual for a politician. he's knotnot appealing to these groups in the way someone like reince priebus or professional republicans might suggest. if you read the republican rnc autopsy, so-called autopsy, from 2012 after they lost that election, you can see that donald trump has broken pretty much every rule they laid out for appealing to these groups. he's not really doing much better with this appeal. i think some republicans may be

a little, at least hopefully, would say he's trying. >> phillip, how is this new language going over in terms of what do you have to lose. >> well, it's a categorical classification of an entire race. he's suggesting all african-americans walk down the street with fear of being shot. but there are plenty of african-americans in this country who don't have that experience and don't live that lifestyle. so, you know, a lot of people are offended by that. one thing trump is going to try to do in the coming weeks, which we've been reporting at "the post" is he's going to take trips to inner cities. he's going to visit some charter schools, visit some black churches. he's thinking about a drip to detroit with dr. ben carson, a native of detroit, who's going to show him the neighborhoods where he grew up. you know, i don't know if that's going to help at all. it certainly is going to change the optics of the outreach and put him in these communities. but again, i just don't know that people are really listening to him. >> so he's got a one-two

strategy. let my soften myself up, take some of those edges down you're referring to, charles. on the other side of the ball, you have the alt-right movement coming up that's incredibly hard, acidic, and often very manipulative in terms of what they're trying to do with their campaigning. the they're trying to ep had trump now also. i guess we're seeing the the two parts of his campaign. the breitbart guy versus the more middle minded guy. >> well, the southern poverty law center as basically labeled all of the breitbart site part of the alt-right movement, which is like a nationalist movement. trump hires a chief from broo breitba breitbart. i don't know how i'm supposed to take that. at the same time he's trying to appeal to black people and soften his stance on immigration. who's being suckered by this? i'm really confused about which white people in america are being sucked in by this and what

you're telling yourself over dinner at night and how you're making this all make sense. because nobody else -- nobody who's been insulted by this man is doing this. nobody's having that conversation where you're saying, oh, well, maybe she's changed and maybe he's so different. that conversation is not happening. i'm very curious soes logicald lodge -- soes yoe logically to understand what's happening. >> these are people who feel betrayed by government. they feel donald trump in his truth speaking or whatever, lack of political correctness, is finally somebody they can trust. i hear you. that's just what they've told us. >> how do they deal with this? now he's saying something else. >> rebecca, maybe you have the answer, but it may be what

charles is saying, that they don't believe he's softening. >> exactly. donald trump is sort of a rorschach test. he speaks in platitudes, so you can believe whatever you want to believe about him or believe whatever negative you want to believe about him. it makes it very difficult for people to pin him down on anything. i think what this goes back to is, you know, charles, you're asking the question, how can white voters feel comfortable with this. well, the fact of the matter is, college educated white voters, this is a group that has voted republican for decades, ever since 1976 basically. every presidential election, this group has gone for republicans. right now they're going for hillary clinton. this is donald trump's problem. he needs to appeal to this segment of voters. if he can't coalesce college educated white voters around his candidacy, there's no way he can expand his support to include hispanics, african-americans, more women from hillary clinton. his campaign is in real trouble. >> panel, thank you very much

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we're following breaking news from italy. at least 37 dead now after a 6.2-magnitude earthquake struck overnight in central italy, leaving mountain towns practically in ruins. the numbers of those killed, hurt, missing, they're all going to rise. access for heavy equipment is still impaired. crews are digging with hand tools in many cases through rubble of collapsed buildings, searching for survivors. the quake shook the area in the early morning hours. our correspondent said the ancient buildings that make these areas so beautiful also

made an event like this so deadly. we'll give you more throughout the morning. we also have a developing story out of north korea. north korea has fired a ballistic missile from a submarine, and for the first time it entered japan's air defense identification zone. u.s. officials tracked this missile over and into the sea of japan, 300 miles off the coast of north korea. japan's prime minister calls this a, quote, unforgivable, reckless act, while south korea has called for severe sanctions. this comes as the u.s. and south korea conducted their joint military exercise. the fbi is looking into cyber breaches targeting reporters at "the new york times" and other news organizations. "the new york times" says its moscow bureau was targeted, but there is no evidence the hackers were successful. investigators say the breaches may be part of an effort by russia to infiltrate american politics. so there's a desperate scene unfolding in iraq. military operations to wipe out isis are driving families into makeshift refugee camps.

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we want to call your attention now to this gut-wrenching scene that's playing out in iraq as military forces try to wipe out isis. innocent families are, of course, caught in the cross fire. in order to survive, they're fleeing their homes into makeshift refugee camps. cnn's senior international correspondent arwa damon is live on the ground in northern iraq. give us the latest, arwa. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. there's been a lot of talk about military preparedness and the military aspect when it comes to assaulting the city of mosul. iraq's second largest city. but what sort of preparations are being made on the humanitarian side. just take a look at what we found. the desert winds whip across the field. the heat is thick, suffocating. and the sand sticks to everything. children's matted hair is shades

lighter than it should be. their face is caked in dirt, nearly impossible to clean, even if there was water. inside this tent is a mother and her baby who we met a short while ago who is one of the cases that's really struggling here. this baby is 9 months old. he has diarrhea, is dehydrated and listless, his mother tells us. the only drinking water they have from a well is making everyone sick. it's been more than a month since they got here after walking for hours. this woman clutches a photo of her dead son, killed by isis two years ago for being in the iraqi special forces. >> translator: he's dead and they took everything. they left me and rhana. this is the martyr's daughter. >> reporter: people are thirsty, unbearable, especially for the children in this heat.

food is lentils and beans twice a day. there have been promises that international organizations were coming. the iraqi government would be helping. but this attempt to preposition shelter and humanitarian aid is providing no relief. as the front lines move towards mosul, people are making a run for their lives along different points. this group, three sisters-in-law and other male relatives, saw the opportunity when the kurdish peshmerga pushed forward. there are very few details they're willing to share because of the risk to their families still inside mosul, but there's also potentially a very joyous moment here because two of these women were pregnant when isis arrived, when their husbands had to flee. very shortly, their littlest children are about to meet their fathers for the first time. they don't want us to follow them to film that, but making it

out does not mean an end to the hardships people continue to endure. we are not able to provide them with the kind of services that they need because we simply don't have the land. >> reporter: and there is the issue of funding. 284 million was allocated during a flash appeal last month, but the money has not yet been released. already established camps have exceeded their maximum capacity. this camp in iraqi kurdistan has mushroomed to five times the size it was in may. even with the expansions under construction, it's barely enough for the current backlog. and the offensive has not yet begun in mosul itself. >> we have a rough estimate. it can be anywhere between a million and up to a million and a half people coming out a of the corridor from mosul. so we're incredibly concerned and trying our best to deal with what might be the humanitarian

catastrophe of the century. >> reporter: a catastrophe because we know this is coming, and preparing for the humanitarian disaster in the making should be as big a priority as preparing for the battle itself. >> but arwa, you've just painted as grim a picture of the circumstances there as we could imagine. so it sounds like those preparations won't be ready. and what happens when those million refugees show up? >> reporter: well, you're going to have potentially hundreds of thousands of people who have fled scenes that is the stuff of nightmares, things we couldn't even imagine, having spent so much time living under isis rule, having somehow survived the fighting take place there. they're going to be exhausted. they're going to be thirsty, hungry. many of them might even be sick or wounded. and there quite simply is not going to be the infrastructure to be able to provide them with the assistance that they deserve.

and really, alisyn, this goes beyond just wanting to help another person out. this goes beyond the responsibility of providing humanitarian aid. there is potentially a greater impact. if you don't help those who are most in need in a situation like this, you're not necessarily going to then build up that trust that is needed between the population of mosul and the iraqi government, between the population and the iraqi security forces. that also risks having some very serious repercussions for the country's future. >> such an excellent point. arwa, thank you so much for your reporting. we wouldn't know the situation there as vividly without it. we'll check back with you. let's get to chris. >> it's worth mentioning, arwa also has a foundation she started to help the kids who are displaced and hurt in situations like this to try to preserve that next generation. it's called inara. look it up online. another big story this morning, you are not alone. that's the message from president obama as he met with victims of the devastating

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two new cases of the zika virus have been reported near tampa, florida. that means it's getting worse, right. right now there are 42 days locally transmitted infections in just that state. the root of the problem remains miami-dade county, specifically wynwood and miami beach. joining us now is the mayor of miami beach. not the kind of story you want advertising where you're from, but give us the reality. how significant is zika in your communities and the surrounding areas? >> chris, we take it very

seriously. the health and well being of our residents and tourists are of the utmost concern. we have five cases on miami beach. it's limited to a very small area. 1.5 square miles, about 20 blocks from 8th street to 28th street. nevertheless, we're doing all kinds of things to make sure this does not spread. we're making sure all the water is taken up everywhere on the streets, private property, making sure there's no garbage in areas that would allow for additional breeding of mosqui s mosquitos. we're educating our residents and tourists, making sure they ware bug spray. it's not good news, but we're on it, working with the county and the state to make sure we limit this as much as possible. >> it's kind of a two-edge sword for you. the word zika alone is going to spread fear, especially in a vacation capital like where you are down there. but at the same time, five cases. so it's hard to make people take it seriously. also, the word all by itself may create false panic. how do you balance?

>> well, it's a very, very fine balance, chris. when you're out on ocean drive and on miami beach, it's packed. people are everywhere, wearing bathing suits. it's our responsibility to make them understand this is serious. of course, it's been a variety of couple more cases around the state of florida. zika itself is in 40-something states around the country already. i think the key here is it's not just about, you know, on the ground. it's making sure that washington does something about it and really gets back to session. we need a vaccine. we need funding to help these municipalities. it's the responsibility of the federal government to get back to work and pass some type of zika bill. >> they're having the same battle there, right. congress, as you've mentioned, has not approved funding to fight the virus yet or to fund vaccine development because they're not sure how real this is. at the same time, you have the cdc telling pregnant women not to travel to florida. so what do you think is going on with getting the help you need?

>> well, i think it's a real challenge from washington. i got to tell you, not to make any political statement about it, but i know secretary clinton is going to be coming forward with a zika plan, which basically is a funding plan that we have a fund, a national fund in place. so whenever we have these issues, we don't have to rely on congress for an emergency appropriation to take care of them, that we have a funded plan constantly for whatever epidemic may arise so we're not in this predicament that we're in today. i think that's very, very important, to have a plan like that in plaice. >> you're a very active advocate for your community. you were frustrated by what you were terming a lack of information coming your way, that you weren't getting enough information from the higher echelons of government. what was going on? what's the condition right now? >> well, it wasn't just me. i had a meeting yesterday with congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. this became an issue that our governor just basically did not want to communicate with the

local leaders. i really believe he wanted to score political points. unfortunately, when you're playing with an issue like this, it is not right to play politics with people's lives. that is not something -- one of our great local journalists down here said, what we have here is a failure to communicate. i hope going forward that our governor heard it loud and clear and we can all work together. this is not a republican or a democratic issue. this is an issue that affects all of us. so i'm confident that when we go forward, we'll all be getting information timely and accurate. >> so who's playing cool hand luke in that scenario? is the governor stepping up and making sure information is getting out there? are things getting better? information management, as we all know, is key to dealing with controlling this outbreak. >> no question about it. the governor came down to miami. there was a round table about z zika. i said, governor, let's talk about the 10,000-pound gorilla in the room. we need information. myself, the other local mayors, and can we count on you for

information. he did say, you're going to get it timely and accurate. i take him for his word and hope we get this information right when he gets it going forward. >> luckily, the number of cases is still low. in a recent poll we did, the overwhelming majority of people are not afraid of contracting zika. so you don't have panic working against you yet anyway. mr. mayor, thank you very much for joining us. let us know how the situation progresses. >> thank you. >> all right. we're still following the big story of the morning, which is this horrible earthquake striking central italy. we have new details. let's get to it. >> the powerful earthquake rocked central italy. >> they're really working quite frantically with their hands, as you can see, just trying to get in touch with anyone who might be alive. >> the city almost completely destroyed. >> there could be aftershocks for days and days to come. >> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation

ends and the state department begins. >> you can't continue to allege that she did anything criminal. >> we've already released, i don't know, 30,000-plus. so what's a few more? >> it's going to be americaing first from now on. we are going to build the wall. >> he's not flip-flopping. his tough stance on immigration will not change. >> give donald trump a chance. so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot. this is cnn breaking news. >> god morning. welcome to your "new day." we're going to have new information for you on this breaking story about a deadly earthquake in italy. first here at home, though, donald trump softening on immigration. he now says he might consider allowing, quote, some of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to stay in the country. >> trump is also using a new report to double down on his claims that a pay for play culture existed at the state department under hillary clinton's watch. let's get the latest now from cnn national correspondent

jessica schneider. what's the latest, jessica? >> reporter: alisyn, donald trump rallied in austin, texas, where he honed in on hillary clinton, once again slamming the clinton foundation, this time as a business that profits from public office. trump also stood on the stage with two mothers whose children were kill bed by illegal immigrants, but there are still questions about his immigration stance. >> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation ends and the state department begins. >> reporter: donald trump honing his rally cry, attacking hillary clinton and her family's name sake foundation. >> the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. >> reporter: trump seizing on a new report by the associated press that claims more than 50% of the private citizens hillary clinton met with during her tenure as secretary of state were donors to the clinton foundation. >> this is corruption. and this is why i have called for a special prosecutor. >> reporter: the clinton

campaign mincing no words in denouncing the ap's report, disputing the findings in a statement, saying this story relies on utterly flawed data. it cherry picked a limited subset of secretary clinton's schedule to give a distorted portrayal of how often she crossed paths with individuals connected to charitable donations to the clinton foundation. the data does not account for more than half of her tenure as secretary, and it omits more than 1700 meetings she took with world leaders. the state department also releasing a statement saying it's entirely within the law that individuals, including those who have donated to political campaigns, make contact or have meetings with officials in the administration. this as trump confirms he may consider softening his hard line stance on immigration, allowing some law-abiding undocumented immigrants to stay in the u.s. >> there certainly can be a softening. we're not looking to hurt people. we have some great people in this country.

>> reporter: this is a major reversal from his key campaign proposal to round up and deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. >> how do you do it in a practical way? >> at some point, we're going to try getting them back, the good ones. 11 million people in this country that came in illegally, they will go out. >> reporter: at a rally in texas, the billionaire did not back off from another campaign promise, that wall between the u.s. and mexico. >> we are going to build the wall. and who's going to pay for the wall? >> mexico! >> reporter: trump planning to meet with latino and african-american activists on thursday as he also continues his pitch to minority voters. >> i say this to the african-american community, give donald trump a chance. we will turn it around. we will make your streets safe so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot. >> reporter: so donald trump

repeating some of those same lines about inner city crime that have raised eyebrows, but his campaign pledging he will continue that outreach. rnc chair reince priebus saying yesterday trump wants to go after every minority vote in this country. alisyn? >> jessica, thanks so much. let's discuss all this. joining us now is cnn political commentator and vice chair of the new york state democratic party, christine quinn, and former donald trump campaign manager, corey lewandowski. important to note, he is still receiving severance from the trump campaign. both are responding to this report that half of the people outside of government that hillary clinton met with when she was secretary of state were donors to the clinton foundation. there were 85 people that she met. they were donors. they contributed together 156 million to the clinton foundation. christine, how is this okay? >> well, first of all, i think we've heard widely, not just from the clinton campaign, but

from lots of people, that the methodology, the way the associated press did this story really is very much cherry picking and is not an accurate way to report, to say this is a -- draw a conclusion, when you look at half of her schedule as secretary of state. we have to understand this is not an accurate reporting. but beyond that, i actually don't find it so surprising. if you think about who gives to the clinton foundation or foundations like that, folks who are international folks, folks who care about the state of the world, care about international issues, humanitarians, folks who want to address the hiv crisis, malaria, the exact same kind of people who would meet with the secretary of state. if you analyzed schedules of prior secretaries of state, you'd see a lot of the same people, people in the same positions meeting with secretary of states. >> corey, how is that explanati explanation? nothing to see here.

>> that's always the explanation with hillary clinton. "the boston globe," the huffington post," clearly not right-wing institutions, have said close the foundation. major mainstream publications are saying there's such a conflict here, it's time to close the foundation. what bill clinton is saying is here's the easy path to hillary clinton. we'll step aside if you're elected president. until that time, keep pouring the money in as quickly as you can. this is your size paeasy pass to the democratic nominee. this is insane. you have 20 people who have donated at least a million dollars according to the associated press. again, had is not a right-wing institution. and what the associated press said was we've excluded any foreign leaders meeting with the secretary of state on official business. >> christine, here's the problem. >> and one of those $100,000 donors was also donald trump in the history of the clinton foundation. >> donald trump never met with

hillary clinton. >> i never said he did. but one of those $100,000 donors, we need to note, is donald trump. >> why does that make it okay? >> i'm not saying it makes it okay. but it raises back to what we hear from the trump campaign, which is a level of hypocrisy. they're claiming secretary clinton engaged in behavior that was not ethical. by implication, they're saying their candidate did too. >> what he said was, if i want access to the clintons, i have access. when i wanted them to come to my wedding, they show up. you know why, because i gave them money. this is exactly what the issue is here. this is a pay for play for. i give enough money, i can get in. we saw this with the crown prince. he tried to get a meeting through the proper diplomatic channels and could not get it. >> how do you know he didn't get it through the proper channels? >> cnn reported this last night. what he said was, i'm going to go to the foundation. we saw the lead of the foundation reach out to the chief of staff to the secretary and said, he's a friend of ours, and 24 hours later. >> if you look at the e-mails,

there was a reach out, a heads up this person was coming. the meeting was already moving forward through proper channels. this is again speaking to hypocrisy. the crown prince of bahrain, one of our major non-nato allies, exactly the kind of person corey said would be removed from these accusatio accusations. our fifth fleet that protects the middle easts is based in bahrain. why shouldn't the secretary of state be meeting with that person? he or she absolutely should, and it was through proper channels. >> got it. i want to move on to immigration. corey, donald trump has flip-flopped on this. he had talked during the entire primary about how every single one of the 11-plus undocumented immigrants of going to be deported. he said it time and again, they have to leave. now he's admittedly softening, as he says, his stance on this. how can voters really trust where he stands on this? >> the customs and border agents, the unions have endorsed donald trump.

first time they've made an endorsement in the history of their establishment. they want somebody who's going to be strong on the border. donald trump has said, i'm going to control who comes into the country. next, if you're a convicted felon and illegal immigrant, you're going back. >> that's different than what he originally said about deporting every single one. >> here's what you have to remember. our federal government today cannot tell us how many illegal immigrants are in the country. what we need is a leader whost going to actually go in, understand this, and then he said, we're going to do this hum humanely. >> why was he so unequivocal during the primary? he said things like, they've got to go, you're going to have a deportation force. >> because the issue was, as we looked at this problem, we looked at this how many people are here, it's almost impossible. >> so he now realizes that was impractical. >> he said, i have to get a

handle, put someone in charge who wants to prioritize. he's also giving credit to this president for increasing deportations. he said that very clearly. he's going to make sure that first we're going to protect the borders, first and foremost, so we know who's coming in. >> i think this is bizarre, honestly, even by trump standards. he was beyond hard lined and unequivocal during the primaries. now we're certainly seeing a softening of the language. but i think what's really hard to understand in all sincerity is what is the policy now? the language is softening. okay, but what's the policy? neither corey nor kaellyanne conway can answer. >> can you answer that, corey? >> it sounds different, but is it different? i think that raises a clear picture of a candidate in free fall. >> what he has said is he's going to address this in further detail. >> but what's the policy now? don't voters deserve to know

before they vote? >> absolutely they do. the election is 76 days away. he said he's going to do a detailed peach on his immigration plan moving forward. i think we should give him the opportunity to outline what that policy looks like so we don't question it. >> that outline speech was supposed to be tomorrow. it's been canceled. in the midst of that, we can't get a straight answer on what the policy is. i think that again speaks to a candidate who's failing because his poll numbers are plummeting. it also speaks to a candidate who has been racist repeatedly during the primary. you can't walk that back. those statements speak to, i think, who donald trump is, what he'll say, and americans aren't going to forget that. and beyond that, this stance isn't a change to try to get latino and hispanic voters. he's not going to get them. >> that just isn't true. >> this is a chance to get the white, college educated men who for the first time in history the republican party is losing. >> bottom line is donald trump in the last week has done an enormous outreach to the african-american community. a week ago --

>> enormous outreach? >> you were reporting he was at 1%. today he's at 8%, which is 50% more than mccain got. >> which poll? >> nbc's poll has him at 8%. >> corey, christine, thank you very much. great to have both of you. chris? >> the big story we're following this morning is what's happening in italy. the death toll rising overnight from a powerful earthquake that measured 6.2. it struck in the mountains of central italy. at least 38 people now dead. let's go live to our cnn contributor and the rome bureau chief for the daily beast. she's a mile and a half from the epicenter. very emblematic of what's going on in the entire region. what's the situation now, barbie? earlier you told us that access for heavy equipment was still blocked, that people had to dig with hand tools. how about now? >> reporter: well, that

situation hasn't gotten any better. we were watching all morning long, this rescue operation going on behind me. people using their bare hands to dig for a neighbor that they thought they knew was alive inside that building. sadly, a short time ago they pulled the body out. just one more casualty in this devastating earthquake. we've seen one heavy truck go by in the last -- i think we've been here three, four hours now. there's just no access up that road. the road is closed. what you see around me, all of these piles of rubble used to be homes, multifamily homes. just repeats itself all the way up the road for miles and miles as people are just searching with whatever they have, garden tools, pick axes, whatever they have to try to find survivors under that rubble. the focus right now is the living. you know, not so much counting the dead. we've heard horrifying reports about what the number could be at the final analysis. right now people are just focused on the living. >> please keep us posted as to

what happens there. we're following more breaking news about another earthquake. myanmar rocked by a powerful 6.8 magnitude earthquake. tremors were felt as far away as bangkok. we don't know any numbers of injuries or deaths. we'll bring you the details on that one as soon as we get them. the clinton campaign is pushing back hard against this new report from the ap and donald trump's pay for play allegations. we're going to hear from clinton's chief campaign strategist next.

america can never elect a candidate who, like hillary clinton, did government favors for those giving her family and her foundation massive amounts of cash. the new revelations about hillary clinton's e-mail scandal make clear we have only seen the up the of the iceberg. >> donald trump pouncing on a new report raising more questions about the relationship between hillary clinton's state department and the clinton

foundation. according to state department calendars obtained by the ap, the associated press, a majority of private citizens who met with secretary clinton donated to the clinton foundation. the clinton campaign is slamming the report as relying on utterly flawed data. joining us now to discuss, the chief strategist for hillary clinton's presidential campaign. joel, thank you for being here. the calendar, how is it utterly flawed data? >> well, because they've took a small sliver of her tenure as secretary of state. less than half the time, less than a fraction of the meetings, fewer than i think 3%, the number they've looked at. this is a woman who met with over 17,000 world leaders, countless other government officials, public officials in the united states. they've looked at 185 meetings and tried to draw a conclusion from that. i think it's one of the most massive misrepresentations you could see from the data. then they're trying to malign and implicate that there was

something nefarious going on when, in fact, there wasn't. she met with noted people like a nobel economist. that's who's on the ap list. somebody who got the presidential medal of freedom who was unanimously given the congressional gold medal, by democrats and republicans. how many unanimous things did you have? >> you're also cherry picking. you know the game very well. you know politics. you know journalist very well. the idea that this many people on the private citizen side as opposed to all officials were connected to the foundation and meeting with her at the state department smells bad. you say nefarious. i'm not saying it's illegal. i'm not saying it's a felony. that shouldn't be the bar for wrongdoing either. it seems wrong and inappropriate. isn't that enough to draw criticism? >> no, i don't think it does seem wrong and inappropriate. these are people who are supporting causes, some of which the state department supports. melinda gates, who's a donor to the foundation and works with

the kleclinton foundation on sag people from a.i.d.s. and malaria across the developing world. we're talking about a foundation that's gotten a.i.d.s. drugs to 11 million men, women, and children in the developing world, keeping those people alive. >> you got melinda gates, a nobel laureate -- >> people support this foundation because of the good work it's done, just like they support a thousand points of light and other foundations. we shouldn't forget that's what's going on in the world. >> but you know what the standard is. semblance of impropriety. if there's an outward appearance that there is a conflict between what someone does for the foundation and what they get out of the state department, it's wrong. congress raised their eyebrows at this. hillary clinton herself said, you know what, you're right. let's draw a bright line. i'll keep the state department out of what the foundation does. it didn't happen. >> let's be clear, chris. i'm not sure if it was on your show or somebody else's, donald trump's new campaign manager was

asked specifically, donald trump gave $100,000 to the foundation. that's a big donation for donald trump because we haven't seen his tax returns and what other donations he gave. that's a big donation. was he paying for play? kellyanne conway said no. people give donations to this foundation because they believe in the work of this foundation. to say that meeting with 84 people out of 3,000 people over the span of your tenure says something even inappropriate is going on i think is a completely falled premise. that's the problem with the ap report looking at this data, lumping together 83 people, including people like a nobel prize winner who's been awarded by the president and congress for his work in the developing world, helping entrepreneurs start businesses and improve their lives. if that's wrong, then donald trump's living on another planet, which he may be anyway. >> look, there are a couple things. the first is that using donald trump as an example of what's

right and what's wrong here, he has openly said, the system is pay for play. i know because i played it. i give money, i get access. so the idea of whether or not trump is the right change agent for a system that he says he abused himself -- >> but he claims he is. but then he says, i alone can fix it. >> that's part of the dilemma of this election. >> let's donald trump, chris. >> hold on. i will. but let's do it in the right context. the ap says the calendars that we could get access to we analyzed. so when you say, well, they're only taking a little bit, they only had access -- they didn't have access to everything. so they only could analyze what they had. i don't know that it's a great push back on this that, hey, they only took this small amount and they're using -- that's all they could get. who knows what they would find if they had all the calendars and all the appointments. >> yeah, sure. and who knows what we would find if donald trump would live up -- this is a man who a week ago said i will always tell you the truth. the man who said, i will release my tax returns if i run for president. who knows what we'll find if he releases those tax returns.

fi i think if you want to be hammering someone in this race day in and day out about disclosure, it's a man who put out a two-paragraph letter from a doctor whose own reden screde appear bogus. the first candidate who has just slammed voters in the face by not releasing his tax returns. i think before donald trump says anything about anybody else, he owes it to the american people. every journalist needs to hammer him and his campaign every day for the next 76 days to produce those tax returns, meet the minimum standard for disclosure that hillary clinton has met and gone beyond. >> joel, we mentioned his refusal to release his tax returns every damn day on this show. it's his choice. voters will weigh it. but i don't get -- and both campaigns do this, by the way. how does what you do that raises questions go away because the

other side -- >> because you're raising questions about appearance and impropriety. let's talk about the letter from his doctor. he has spent two weeks ginning up news about hillary clinton and her health. >> it doesn't make her problems go away is all i'm saying. whether or not she had the right line between the state department and foundation doesn't go away because he's a mess. they don't balance out. >> the clinton foundation's work, saving 11 million people who are getting a.i.d.s. drugs because the foundation, the clinton foundation and the gates foundation went and negotiated with drug companies to drive down the price of generic a.i.d.s. drugs so we could keep people alive. i don't think it's a problem that the clinton foundation has kept people in the developing world alive from a disease that was wiping out millions of people. >> but who's alleging that? who's saying what the foundation does -- >> you're impugning her and the foundation all in one lump sum by painting this broad picture of appearances. >> i'm asking a question about the report which suggests that

people who gave money to the foundation got meetings with the state department. >> 84 people out of more than 3,000 people that she met with as far as the ap knows met with her. that's less than 3% of the people she met with during her four-year tenure. i don't know. i have no evidence how diligent the ap was about obtaining the calendars. i think there have been others who have questioned this use of the data, not just us. i think it's a fair question to ask. when you're talking about 84 people out of more than 3,000 people she has met with, i don't think that's a fair portrait. i think it's a misrepresentation of the data. i think it's a massive misrepresentation of what they know. in journalism, what you ought to do is not report a glimmer of information. you ought to be as dogged as you can and do things that produce the full body -- >> you report what you have. you report what you have access to. if you get the calendars and you make this decision about what is in it, that's what you go with. >> you don't report in journalism the appearance of truth. >> no, no. you get the best obtainable version of the truth. whatever we can get from the

calendars, we analyze. as we get more information, we get more analysis. >> if you had 16 appointments, would you analyze it? >> you ask for more. you would argue one is too many. >> so you're saying that someone like melinda gates, who's been a philanthropist saving lives all over the world -- >> that's a great example for you. what about if it's just somebody who with gave a lot of money? >> i don't know all the other 85 people, chris, who are on that list. what i know is that people donated to this foundation because the work the foundation was doing around the world. no one is contesting that. so is it wrong for a secretary of state to meet with people who are committed to causes of saving lives around the world when the department of state is doing that same work? i don't think so. >> i give you the last word. joel, thank you for making the case on "new day," as always. alisyn? >> chris, the first presidential debate is one month away. clinton, of course, and trump will be there. but libertarian candidate gary johnson hopes to be on that

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donald trump continues to attack the clinton foundation as he changes his own stance on immigration. libertarian nominee, meanwhile, gary johnson, is waging his own battle. he wants to get on the stage for the presidential debates. that first debate is just a month away now. so the libertarian presidential nominee gary johnson joins us now. >> thank you so much. i had somebody in new mexico tell me once -- or i said, i can't believe this pay to play thing exists. i said, you know, we didn't do any of that as governor. and he said to me, he said, gary, i know that, we all know that, it's never happened before, and it's never going to happen again. >> but you're talking about the clinton foundation. >> yes. >> what is so wrong about the secretary of state meeting with major foreign leaders who have given to her husband's foundation? >> because there is an implication that when you give those donations, that you will

have access, and that's pay to play. >> here's your advantage. so the person who is attacking clinton most for that right now is donald trump. a man who is openhas openly ac e acknowledged that he used that system, that he would give money, that he would do it to get access. fundamentally, you have a great opening for a third-party candidate. you have one person who's being accused of pay for play, rightly or wrongly, by someone who wants to be a change agent. where do you fit in? >> i am the third alternative here. it never has existed. my having been in politic, i've never taken a penny from politics. to me, this is a higher calling. this is about being in a position to do the right thing. before i ran for governor, i wondered, could you come from completely outside of politics, could you be governor for term or two terms and just be completely above board, meaning legislation comes to you, you

either support it or you oppose it based on what is the best for, in this case, the citizens of new mexico. i have to tell you, good government was easy. it was possible to do that. i did it the whole time in office. i'm not saying others don't, in fact, do that same thing, but what i've seen, never having been involved in politics before, is that there is a big pay for play out there. you give contribution and contribution gives you access. doesn't give you -- it doesn't give you action on what it is that you propose, but it's access and it's a constant feeding of that access. and that's also the other side of politics. >> right, but that's not illegal. the access isn't illegal. >> no, it's not illegal. none of this is illegal. it's just that the implication and the fact that it is being paid and it's unstated. look, if you don't pay for that acces access, you don't get the access. >> illegal is also a strange standard to apply to politics. it would seem that we should

have a higher bar than whether or not you go to jail for what you're doing while you're in office. >> well, that's also the case here with the clinton foundation. gee, we're going to disband the clinton foundation if hillary is elected president, but it was okay while she was secretary of state. when you watch the connections, gee, these agreements were signed after bill -- for the longest time, i wondered what these half a million dollar speaking fees that bill was being paid for. then, you know, starting to link up, well, gee, here's the speakispeak ing fee, and here's the agreement that was signed with the state department shortly thereafter. >> but no proof has come out of quid pro quos yet. >> no, no. >> but that is the suggestion. that's the risk of when you get too close with your lines of attachment. >> and there is a quid pro quo. is it an illegal line that got crossed over? no, nobody's going to get prosecuted for this. that's also the nature of this. >> let's talk about immigration.

donald trump has changed his stance. he no longer thinks it's practical to deport every single one of the 11 million plus. >> no, but he still says he wants to build a wall across the borlder. he's not going to deport all 11 million. look, we should embrace immigration. these are hard working people that are taking jobs that u.s. citizens don't want. so make a system -- get a system in place. work visas that just make it easy to cross over the border. and with regard to the 11 million that are here, i mean, he's also talking about deporting them, but bringing them back, look, they're here because they couldn't get across legally. you or i would be doing the same thing if it were our families and the fact that jobs exist, i can't get across the border, so the only way i can get those jobs is if i cross illegally. that's the reason for 11 million undocumented workers. >> so president johnson legalizes this? >> by legalizes, just set up a is up whereby you can come into

the visa office, and as long as you've been law-abiding, you'll get a work visa and be allowed to stay. >> how different is that, than what we have right now? >> well, right now they still remain undocumented. they're contributing. they're contributing mightily to the economy. >> but they don't go to the office. the question is, there is a system set up right now where you can go in, say you want to yo work in america, then you wait and get a chance for entry. people are taking it in their own hands and doing it illegally. should they be rewarded for that? >> not rewarded but just recognize the reality of why it has happened an continues to happen. you can't get across the border legally. you and your family have needs. you can't get across legally. the jobs exist. so you cross illegally. you make it easy with a work visa program and don't put government in charge of quotas. that's another broken down system.

there'll either be jobs or there won't be jobs. right now there's a reverse migration taking place because there are more jobs in mexico tan the united states. and illegal crossings at the border are at a decade low. >> the presidential debate is one month away. your poll numbers are ticking up in the right direction. >> they're ratcheting up, yes. >> here's the latest fox news poll. you're at 12%. so i think that you need to hit 15%, they've said. >> 15 in five national polls that are picked by the committee. >> picked by the committee. in those five polls, when they came out and announced that, which was a couple weeks ago, our consensus number was 10. we're optimistic this might actually happen. we're raising money in a way that by comparison to trump and clinton it's not their numbers, but it's enough money perhaps to launch into, you know, to a name recognition campaign. 70% of americans still don't know who i am. i think that bodes well for

actually winning the race at some point. i do. we still hold to the belief, me and bill weld, hold to the belief that we might be the next president/vice president. >> the last question, the one that dogs the third party candidate is the spoiler question. it's always been like that since the dynamic was created in america. you have been increasingly critical of both candidates, especially trump. you've come out and see him as disingenuous, as he's trying to pull something over on the american people. most of the tabulations show you'll draw more from clinton than donald trump. is that something that's of any increasing concern to you, or you're still where you've always been, which is i'm for johnson, whatever else happens, happens. >> a wasted vote is voting for someone you don't believe in. i'm halfway believing as this really gets close to the election, are you going to waste your vote on trump or clinton when johnson is out there as a viable pick? >> governor gary johnson, thanks

sop. >> alisyn, thanks so much. always fun. thank you. >> all right. team trump has been attacking hillary clinton with conspiracy theories about her health. what about donald trump's health? a letter from his doctor raises a lot of questions. we'll talk about it with our own doctor, sanjay gupta. >> didn't the letter say he's so healthy it'll make your head spin? if your sneezes are a force to be reckoned with... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. try zyrtec®. muddle no more®.

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all right. so over the past few days, we've heard a lot of conspiracy theories regarding hillary clinton's health and whether she is fit to be president. on the other hand, what do we know about donald trump's health, aside from a letter from his physician?

let's take a closer look with our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. always a pleasure to see you. so help us. dr. harold n. bornstein. he's the doctor who suggestively wrote, may have signed the letter about donald trump's health. what do we know about him? >> well, he's been a doctor with trump for 36 years. he says he's a hello of the american college of gastroend rolling. we called that particular organization. he hasn't been a member since '95. lennox hill hospital says he's part of the section of gast gastroenterology. it was more the way the letter was written.

>> a gastroenterologist. i'm no doctor, but that doesn't jump out at me as the type of physician this letter usually would come from, right. when i have to get insurance stuff, they go to my resident of the primary physician. is this unusual to you? >> you know, it could be unusual. i wasn't as concerned about that. gastroenterologists typically go through internal medicine training first then get a fellowship. it could be something that he started seeing mr. trump for primary care sort of things, happens to be a gastro. >> astonishingly excellent. >> i only use that to describe you. >> aptly so. healthiest individual ever elected. >> how do you know that? how would you -- that's unknowable. certainly one as part doctor, part historian.

these tips of things, that type of hyperbole typically isn't used. strength and stamina being astonishingly excellent. you can measure strength. none of that objective data was in the letter. >> his physical strength and stamina are extraordinary. over the past 12 months, he has lost at least 15 pounds. mr. trump takes 81 milligrams of aspirin daily and a low dose of a statin. so he's in great shape. why should we question any of this? just because it doesn't sound like what you usually hear? >> part of it is the language, when you start using this hyperbolic language. we like to back things up with data. democra here you have lot of language without a lot of substance to back it up. >> what do you want to know? >> they say he's on a statin. what's his cholesterol?

he's taking these medicines. for what? does he have a risk of heart disease. is someone taking these medications because their at a higher risk of heart disease or stroke. also, what is his past medical history. we don't really know anything about his past medical history. we get some glimpses of his health from the campaign trail. he brags about not needing to sleep much. campaigning and golf as his main forms of exercise. that doesn't give us a lot of insight. there's no particular law that says we have to know the health of a candidate. there's nothing that demands that. but i think a lot of people do want no know. >> especially when you start -- you have candidates who are not 50. both candidates will be 70 and above. >> that's more of a reason, certainly with age there are going to be greater health concerns. it is also fair to say there are people who are chronologically 7

and have the physiology of a 50-year-old. and vice versa. we can actually parse this out a little bit if you get more information. >> good to know. so we don't have to have any of this, but if this is going to become, like with the taxes that started with nixon back in '70, if you're going to have information, you should have full information. >> some have said you have have an independent panel separate from the doctor. an independent panel to vet out these candidates in terms of their medicine. >> sanjay gupta, extraordinary shape yourself. astonishing strength and stamina. everybody says it. he is his own doctor. >> best friends. >> when he needs a doctor, which he doesn't, he's his own doctor. thank you very much, sanjay. you'll remember these three americans. this story gripped us. they stopped a terror attack on a train in france.

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that fateful day. two of the co-authors, anthony sadler, and spencer stone join us now. the 1517 to paris, the true story of a terrorist, a train and three american heros. guys, great to have you here. >> thanks for having us. >> we should mention, your third friend couldn't be here because he is in the military and in sniper school right now. >> continuing his service, so our thoughts with him. >> ours too. spencer, tell us the moment on that train that you realized something bad was going down. >> me and anthony were both asleep at the time, and you know, my friend alec was looking toward the back, when a train employee ran by the -- in between us through the hallway. the commotion woke us up. i realized something was going on, i heard glass breaking, people screaming, and you know, i turned around. first thing i see, a guy coming through the doorway with a back pack strapped to the front of him. >> the image of a back pack strapped to the front is so

jarring to you and something is wrong. >> exactly. it looks totally off, and immediately, he grabs his ak-47, loads a round into the chamber. i rushed at him. he tried to shoot at him, but there was a bad primer in the bullet. there is one example of how miracles or coincidences are listed in the book. >> that's why you were able to survive. the video we're seeing, anthony, in your cell phone video i believe. >> yeah. >> walk us through that. >> that was for my peace of mind, after we had tied the gunman up and spencer had his fingers in the other passenger's -- >> t was a calm moment. >> he had previously been shot that was the commotion that the train employee was running from. so by the time we noticed him, after we tied the gunman up, he had a gunshot wound coming out of his neck and he was bleeding everywhere. we tried to save his life, but

we didn't know -- we didn't really know what to do until spencer plugged the artery up. >> that video was graphic, but we felt it was important to show, the aftermath. let me read a passage from the book about the moment ybefore yu knew you were going to be able to stop the terrorist. >> a sliver of -- one morphine al thought tumbles home with energy, i'm not going to die sitting down, verges on oeupho a euphoria. what was that like? >> we had two options. sit there and die, or die on our feet. i mean, we were raised to, you know, kind of always, you know, have each other's backs and kind of stand up to the right thing

and that's what we felt was right doing, and you know, i would have been happy if my family could find out if i went out like that, instead of sitting down and letting things pass by. >> anthony, what was happening for you? >> the initial thought is this really happening. it shocked me at first. the first image i see is him loading a road into the ak, so that was just shocking for me because we had just woken up out of our sleep. within seconds, spencer charged him. just to follow him into battle at that point. >> you exchanged text messages with your dad before the attack and then right after the attack. i think it's really powerful. let me just read these text messages between you and your dad. you say on thursday, august 20th, 11:07 p.m. so it is 8:00 a.m., we head out of amsterdam and we get in around 6:00 p.m.me i'll text yo when i receive the info. call me, dad.

>> yeah. >> what happened in that conversation? >> i couldn't get ahold of him, and i was calling him off a foreign number and that's why he wasn't answering. i had to text him. that's basically how we talked to each other seriously, just that simple, call me, you know it's serious. i needed to basically brace him for what i was going to tell him. i didn't know how to tell him we stopped a terror attack. so when i finally did get him on the phone, i just flat out told him and he was like okay. i was like i gotta go, call me back. he was like call me when you can. i know he was kind of floored at first and took a while to digest it. >> process that. >> yeah. >> that message, that one doesn't happen everyday. i know you don't like the term hero, but you are heros, and those how france saw you. you got to do all sorts of things as a result. you are honored by the president of france, you met president obama, you met clint eastwood, you were in the locker room, just all sorts of cool people.

kobe bryant. what's the best thing that has happened in the past year? >> take this, anthony? >> yeah, i think being with kobe bryant, it was like a hero of mine and spencer is a big fan as well. he just took us in like friends and talked to us a few hours and he didn't have to take the time. we're indebted to kobe for that. >> we've obviously done so many cool things, and like there is just a giant list, but i would say it probably has to be bringing my family along for most of the stuff, because i think when it all first happened, we were headed on a plane here to new york, and i took a moment, this is the first time me and my family had been on a plane together. it was a cool moment, being able to bring them along for the ride. >> well, the book is really great. everybody should read it. it is a chilling and obviously ultimately inspiring account of everything that happened. thanks so much for being here, guys. best of luck to both of you moving forward. >> thank you. we're following a lot of

breaking news, including the earthquake rattling italy. let's get right to it. >> this horrible earthquake in italy. >> all of these piles of rubble used to be home. >> the town is half gone. people are trapped. >> this is corruption. i have called for a special prosecutor to look into this mess. >> gotta be prepared for whack key stuff that comes at you. >> we have only seen the tip of the iceberg. >> the world is spinning out of control. >> hillary clinton wants to fling open the floodgates to our borders. >> we need to find a mechanism that works. he is not flip flopping on immigration. >> no one owns me. believe me. >> what do you have to lose in trying to trump. >>announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning, everyone.

welcome to "new day," august 24th, 8:00 in the east. we do begin with breaking news. a 6.2 powerful earthquake rocks italy. 39 people are now dead. the number will likely go up, leaving mountain towns in ruins. the mayor saying simply his town is quote, no more. >> the tremors were felt as far away as rome, 100 miles from the epicenter of the quake zone. officials expect the death toll to rise because they haven't been able to assess anything yet. these are old buildings. our correspondent put it best. what makes this place so beautiful is also what is making this situation so deadly. she is barbie nedoe, and she is in saletta, a mile and a half from the epicenter from the quake. i'm quoting you, because that's the challenge, beautiful, old rustic villages on these

mountain side communities, easy to be destroyed and difficult to access. barbie. >> reporter: that's absolutely right, chris. you are know, people come here to get away from it all. now is when they don't need to be away from it all. they haven't been able to get heavy equipment in the outlying areas. they don't know who is there. facebook activated its i am safe program so people can understand who is missing and who is not. lots of people who live in rome have their summer houses here. lots of people send their kids to the grandparents to live in the countryside to escape the heat in the city of rome. sadly, we were watching for the better part of the morning, this rescue operation where neighbors worked alongside, civil protection authorities, trying to dig out people they thought were trapped alive in a bedroom on the main floor, which is a pile of rubble. they removed the people they found, they held up a sheet and

we assume the body or bodies that they found. up the hill, now, those same neighbors and rescue workers have moved with the search and rescue dogs to look in the same way for other people that they know that are up there or potentially hidden underneath the rubble alive, chris. >> all right, barbie, just starting the process of figuring out what's going on. we'll check back with you. let's get more perspective from emma tucker. she is in lamarca. we sue he in your car. you seem like you're okay, but we hear there was another after shock just recently. what happened? >> reporter: well, we were just setting up the shot for me to speak to you, and suddenly, there was another aftershock, i have to say if -- it is much worse, each one is worst than the initial one, because we don't know what the hell is

going on. we hear these terrible reports of deaths and people missing. i just ran out. as it is, we haven't had any electricity, so we've had to use the car to charge the ipad so i can speak to you. >> what a horrible situation for you to deal with. obviously you're not alone. you have lot of family with you. then all in the house together when the initial quake took place. take us through it. >> reporter: well, we are a party of 11. 17 ages, four adults. the teenagers were sleeping on the top floor. it was 3:30 in the morning, dead of night, even though i've never lived through an earthquake before, i woke up. the house was shaking. very intensely. there was the most appalling noise. a rumbling like -- i've never lived through one. i was in no doubt. my husband sat up, we all

started yelling at the kids to come down. we then got out of the house, into the garden. the electricity was gone, we couldn't see where we were going. we sat there, wondering what to do. growing up in a country that doesn't have earthquakes, no one tells what you to do. after a half an hour, the kids wanted to go back to bed. okay, we'll go back in. so we trooped back in, got back into the bed, and within ten minutes, the aftershock came and it was almost morte terrifying. we abandon ship altogether until the sun came up. we could see how badly it was damaged. plaster everywhere. we're 50 miles from where the epicenter was. we felt it badly. clearly, we had it lucky

compared with what's going on in lamarche. >> they're getting their hands around it now. thank you for checking in with us. we'll stay in touch. make sure you guys are well. donald trump apparently trying to soften his stance on immigration, instead of deporting 11 million undocumented immigrants, trump says he'll consider allowing some to stay in america. he is attacking hillary clinton after a new report further links the clinton foundation to the state department. cnn jessica snyder joins us with the latest developments. >> donald trump used his rally to attack hillary clinton on two fronts. the clinton foundation and what he says is her lack stance on immigration. the immigration is something he is murky on, but he is giving clues he may be backing down from his hard line stance.

>> it is impossible to figure out where the clinton foundation ends and the state department begins. >> donald trump honing his rally cry, attacking hillary clinton, and her family's namesake foundation. >> the clintons set up a business to profit from public office. >> trump seizing on a new report by the associated press cla claims more than 50% of the private citizens hillary clinton met with during her tenure were donors to the clinton foundation. >> this is corruption, and this is why i have called for a special prosecutor. >> the clinton campaign, mincing no words in denounlsicing the report, saying this story relies on utterly flawed data, cherry picking a limited subset of secretary clinton's schedule to give a distorted portrayal of how often she crossed paths with the individuals connected to the

charitable doan nations. it omits more than 1,700 meetings she took with world leaders. the state department also releasing a statement, saying it is entirely within the law that individuals, including those who have donated to political campaigns, may contact or have meetings with officials in the administration. this, as trump confirms, he may consider softening his hard line stance on immigration, allowing some law-abiding undocumented immigrants to remain in the u.s. >> there certainly can be a softening, because we're not looking to hurt people. we want people. we have great people in this country. >> this is a major reversal from his key campaign proposal to roundup and deport all 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. >> they've got to go out. >> how do you do you it in a practical way? >> you know what, at some point, we're going to try getting them back, the good ones. >> 11 million people that came in illegally. they will go out. >> the billionaire did not back off from another campaign

promise, that wall between the u.s. and mexico. >> we are going to build the wall. and who is going to pay for the wall? >> trump planning to meet with latino and african-american activists on thursday, as he also continues his pitch to minority voters. >> i say this to the african-american community, give donald trump a chance. we will turn it around. we will make your streets safe. so when you walk down the street, you don't get shot. >> trump there repeating the same lines about inner city crime that have raised eyebrows, but his campaign alleging he'll continue the outreach. reince reince priebus saying he wants to go after every minority vote in the country. joining us now, corey

lewandowski, and democratic strategist, paul magala. paul, let me start with you. let's start with what jessica was reporting. this is the associated press that they've now responded to, that 85 -- hillary clinton, when she was secretary of state, met with 85 major donors to the clinton foundation. they gave something like in total $156 million to the moun dation. how is that not paying for access? >> how is it? >> they gave money and got to meet -- >> who were they and what did they get? >> this infuriates me. the clinton foundation keeps millions of people alive. 40 paragraph story. i read it three times. 12 of the paragraphs are about hillary meeting with muhammad y uni s. he is a bangladeshy economist, and the congressional gold medal. done more to relieve extreme poverty than any personal life.

of course, the secretary of states should meet with him. that's nuts. >> so all of -- >> totally justified. absolutely justified. no, this is wrong. in the whole wide world, there is only 17 million people who get lifesaving drugs. 11.5 get them because of the clinton foundation. folks are trying to attack that foundation is really scummy. >> alisyn, i agree with paul. this is pay for play. what we know is one of the individuals she met with is the same person who held the fund raidser for her yesterday in california. he gave between 5 and $10 million to the foundation. he is on that list, has nothing to do. >> who? >> sabeem. isn't that the guy's name? >> i have no idea. >> but paul is saying so what. >> of course you can. donald trump gave $100,000 to that foundation. was he doing pay for play. >> no one is questioning the work of the foundation. what they're questioning, not the work, look, the gates

foundation, parter in the clinton foundation. >> what's the problem? >> what they're questioning is you cannot get a meeting through the proper channels, go to the foundation and get the meeting. moreover, if the clinton people if this is a subset, then release the entire schedule. the ""boston globe"" has called for it to be closed, the huffington post has called for it to be called. why won't he do it right this very second, step down z -- >> this is politics at its worst. different standard for the clintons. he had the point of life foundation, which he himself set up while he was president. every single day as president, he had a thought of life. we thought it was great. we never attacked it. next time, we run against bob dole. bob dole ran the senate, his wife, elizabeth was running the american red cross. we never attacked that. >> did all --

>> the press didn't look at -- >> look, the press didn't look, because the doles are honorable people. but the clintons are scum. we're going to treat them like scum. saves lives and we're going to honor that and the fact that it gets into into political muck. >> almost $1 million, these are the people that met secretary clinton while secretary of state for access, and when they couldn't get access, they went to the foundation and said he is a friend, make sure we have access within 24 hours. >> was trump doing pay for play? >> he has given to everybody. >> his motives are pure, but a nobel peace prize -- >> you hear what corey is saying, they wouldn't have been given access had they not given money? >> that's baloney. >> ask the american people. go out and walk out out on the

street. >> there is no wrongdoing. >> 11%, this doesn't help her. >> a new documentary, this was taped in brittain. kellyanne conway, the new campaign manager for the trump campaign, has given an interview for this documentary that will be airing next week. in it, she communicates a line of attack that maybe we'll be hearing more of. let's listen. >> hillary clinton is a bore, who maybe voters who think is not trustworthy and not honest. her husband's probably, he had a casual relationship with other women. hillary has a casual relationship with the truth. the more people see her, they're reminded about what they don't like and trust about her. >> corey, is this the plan, any complaints there are about hillary clinton to her husband's past with women? >> well, i think what kellyanne said specifically, if you look on who is on the ballot, she does have an issue with the truth. the e-mail, the pay for play.

drip, drip, drip. here's another 15,000 e-mails. oh, just a few more. the american people don't trust her. that's her problem. >> this is typical trump. you know, i said this last week, they started in the gutter, they're going to finish in the s sewer. i have no judgment about divorce. but the fact that they held their marriage together, now kellyanne conway is going to stand in moral judgment of her, 't it is shameful and disgusting. kellyanne is trying to smear hillary, trump himself is folding. hill vee backing him down. like any bully, he is backing down on immigration, his core issue. she can push this guy around. i can't wait for the debates. he may not show up. >> the clinton campaign, the super pac, which paul is part of, the best polls they have right now, the best polls,

hillary clinton is within the margin. >> we never have, we never will. >> trump isn't going any where. they're scared to death. once they start focusing on labor day, and hillary clinton is so flawed, donald trump is the only person that will change washington. >> back to the issues and with immigration, how is it that donald trump, this is not considered a flip flop, that he first said he was going to deport every single one of the 11 million plus immigrants. >> the border patrol, they've endorsed donald trump because they know he'll uphold the law. customs and border protection, they want the government out of the way so they can do their job. donald trump will build a wall, make sure you are if a convicted felon, we'll send you back. >> right. that's what he said. no, no. he said we'll send you all back. now he is changing that. >> he said it from the beginning, we'll do it humanely.

the government is so fun fundamentally broken, they have to get a handle of the problem. >> that's not what he said during the primary. he said every single one would have to go. >> right, because every bully there is a coward. hillary knows that. he is backing off on his core issue. does anybody believe that the facts have changed? no, we're 76 days before an election, hillary is beating him like the bad little boy that he is, the coward that he is, he is folding to a girl. oh, good job, donald. >> paul, corey, on that note? we'll leave it, gentlemen, we'll leave it for the spirited debate. >> what a dialogue that was. as we were just discussing, donald trump seems to be softening his previously very hard stance on immigration. why? will it gain him voters or lose him voters? we'll talk to the first house republican to support him, next.

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softening, because we're not looking to hurt people. we want people. we have some great people in this country. we have some great, great people in this country. so, but we're going to follow the laws of this country. people don't realize, we have very, very strong laws. >> who is this? asking a lot of voters, donald

trump saying maybe we should soften the stance on immigration policies. he is switching policies? where does this leave his most ardant support certificates. new york congressman, chris collins. the criticism is obvious. thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> he got where he was in the primaries at the top of the list, because of this hard-line stance in part, attacking. many people say the types of people coming into crountry, maybe we have good people. what is this switch about? >> well, i think it goes back, chris, to his campaign promise was he was going to secure our borders. he is going to do that. he is going to build the wall. i have no doubt in that. on the deportation issue, i know myself, from the beginning, i said there is just no logical way to ever deport 12 million people, and in the case of my district, which has a lot of dairy farmer, you have to milk

the cows three time as a day, a rhetorical deportation, bring people in out of the shadows, go into a room, when they walk into the room, they are illegal immigrants, they get a social security, they walk out another door as legal immigrants with work papers. not citizenship. so they have been deported. just not taken back across the border. >> look, that's your position, and that's a fine position to have. that's not his position. he beat that position like a pinata for months, saying that's amnesty, not with me, pal, they're going back. i'm going to start an agency to round them up and it creates p hypocrisy issue. >> no. if you look at hillary clinton, time and time again, she says she is for tpp, transpacific partnership, then she is against it. i mean, campaigns do evolve.

even on tax policy, mr. trump says it is what a ceo does. they throw something out on the table, they get other people's input and then the final solution evolves from there. that's a good, healthy chief executive doing -- >> i'll give you your word, an evolution to a lot of people, seems like a core principle he is switching because he is getting beaten over the head in the polls with it. next topic. chief executives fight for transparency. that's what this e-mail argument is about largely for the trump campaign. she is not transparent. he won't release his taxes. it seems, again, hypocritical. you go after her for transparency, which is a legitimate argument to make. but you're not doing it yourself. why should he be seen as a change agent, when he won't release his taxes? >> well, i've said from day one, he shouldn't release his taxes. that's private information. the law requires a personal financial disclosure form that

tells everyone for the last couple of years all your transactions -- >> everybody releases their taxes. >> no, they don't. >> everybody. everybody since 1970, who has run for president. >> i didn't. >> you didn't run for president. richard nixon did it. >> he is under audit. again, that's a personal decision. nothing in the law that requires it. he is under an audit. but also, in the extent of his investments, when you release a tax return, you're telling your competitors property by property are you making money, are you losing money. what is going on in each and every property z so you're saying his business -- >> elevate -- >> you're saying his business interests are more important than the disclosure to the american people that he wants to lead as president? >> he has fully disclosed to the american people everything he owns. everything he owes, what everything is worth, every position in every company for the last two years. every transaction that he has had. my god, i don't know what else you could give. >> how is that? that's the kind of information that could burden him with his

competitors. they just want to know his tax rate. how much money he gives. if he is going to be talking about taxes and what a charitable guy he is. why doesn't he release just that? >> i don't know what his tax rate is. >> i know you don't. that's the point. >> every american, including the clintons, pays the least amount of tax they can in accordance with our very complicated multi thousand page tax code. do you any anyone in america pays more. i would say to hillary clinton, why doesn't she check the box and send a little extra money if she doesn't think she pays a fair amount. no one should criticize anyone for following this most complicated law that should be simplified. >> the criticism is -- >> and then coming back and saying you should have paid more. >> the criticism is you should be transparent. you guys make a good point of saying donald trump, they take his words out of context. you say that all the time, right, congressman? they cherry pick his words, right? >> sure, that's correct. absolutely. >> you guys are doing that to me

right now in an ad for your campaign. i want to play you a piece of sound i said on the show and i hope i get an apology for you it. >> to your point, she does take quite a while longer what happens to other folks who want to -- >> it is a problem, because she is doing what they call in politics, freezing pockets, because the donors are giving her money, and not haavailable. >> she is on her way to deciding. >> we'll see. we couldn't help her any more than we have. she has gotten a free ride. we're the biggest ones promoting her campaign. >> one, i look much younger, and it was barely two years ago. i can't believe how this campaign has aged all of us. the second thing is this, i was talking specifically about the book tour clinton was going on a couple of years ago, instead of announcing her candidacy, and the media was covering the book and when will she finally decide to run. that's what i was talking about. that's the context. your campaign took it out of

context, made it sound like i said it yesterday as some type of admission that we're in the tank for hillary clinton. that's inaccurate. it is out of context, and it is wrong. you're raising money off of it. do i get an apology? >> well, personally, i would not run that kind of ad. >> you are running it. you work with the campaign and they were running it. >> i am not running it. i will say this, chris. you're great guy. if all of that, that you said is true, i'll apologize to you. but that's politics, as you know. and i know when i ran for -- >> i'm saying if you're going to complain. it was a couple of years ago, before i said the same things about trump, that we were front running and hyping him to get him into the race, because these are the big names, they were the exciting names that would make the campaign exciting and those are the kinds of people you see getting attention early on. that was my point. if you're going to complain about being taken out of context, shouldn't do the exact thing that you criticize, and that's what's going on in that ad.

fair point? >> well here is what i would say. the liberal press is distorting what donald trump is saying. it is something you said, and i will accept you as an honorable, what you're saying is true, and i would apologize for taking your words out of context. i'm not going to apologize to the clintons. >> one step at a time. i'm worried about myself. congressman collins, thank you very much for joining us on "new day." always appreciate you making the case. >> good to be with you. >> alisyn. hillary clinton tried to laugh off the release of 15,000 new e-mails, and documents with jimmy kim jimmy kimmel the other night. we'll discuss that with david axelrod, next. drives just three ninety-nine.h office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.

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political commentator, david axelrod, the former senior visor to president obama. good to see you. >> good morning, my presentfrie >> ap, it is only a small sample, associations that would be most damming. fair push back? or does the allegation stand? >> the allegation is going to stand and it will be an issue in the campaign. will it be a lasting damaging issue. probably not. look, the names that i saw out there, and i haven't seen the entire list, people like melinda gates are people who probably would have gotten appointments with the secretary of state, regardless. i think it becomes a more serious story if someone can make a link between the meetings and some improper favor that was granted. >> yeah, i mean, that's the point, right. that's what all of hillary clinton supporters who have been

on the show this morning are saying. secretary of state would meet with the crown prince of bahrain. where is the smoking gun there? >> yeah, but there is no doubt that, look, i think this kind of stuff is for donald trump, who has been in the barrel for the past six weeks because of his own antics, it gave him a channels and his supporters a chance to go on the attack, and they took advantage of it. i don't know that it particularly changes the dynamic of the race. my guess is, it will be a little bump in the road. >> the only thing that i think is odd is that there is a narrative, it wasn't illegal. it is not illegal. you know, she didn't break a law. it is not a felony. that's a very low bar for responsible governing for clinton and for trump. i mean, we hear about it on his side, too, about about a lot of allegations. if it ain't illegal, its owes

okay? >> chris, i don't want to repeat my whole bear joke again, but the fact is that, you know, she is blessed with the right opponent. you look at, for example, these trustworthiness measures and donald trump is basically where she is on those measures. so that's not going to decide this election. i think the people have made a judgment that hillary clinton is imperfect effect. >> david, on to this new cache of e-mails. hillary clinton was on jimmy kimmel and said we released 30,000, what's a few more. you then tweeted this. you said the what's a few more on kimmel was a little off-key. what should she have said, do you think? >> well, i don't know, but i think she should not joke about this. she has done this a few times.

she seemed flippant about it. obviously there are concerns about the -- how she handled these e-mails, and all these jokes fall flat. it makes it seem as if she is not taking the issue seriously. and that only exacerbates her problem. so that seemed like a line she was waiting to deliver, and whomever suggested that line did her a disservice. >> ax, when you look at the map, we're seeing these how do you get to 270. do you feel it is too early for that? >> well, i think, you know, look, there is a fundamental dynamic between republicans and democrats that you start with. democrats, you know, have won 242 electoral votes i think, six out of six elections, so democrats start with a big advantage, and then you add the trump factor and he is in a big hole. i don't think it is too early to have that discussion. can things change, yes, they can

change. the dynamic is pretty grim for him right now, but these debates loom large, and if he comes in and turns in performances that change people's thinking, perhaps he can get back in this race. but i don't think it is too early to suggest that he has got a big hill to climb. he does have a big hill to climb here. >> there is another dynamic he is trying to change, the outreach to black and hispanic voters. thus far, he has made the appeal in front of white audiences at rallies in white neighborhoods, however, that's changing. in the next couple of weeks, he is planning trips to urban areas, churches, charter schools, small businesses, black and latino businesses. he is developing an empowerment agenda based on education. can he turn it around? >> well, i think there too, he has a big hill too climb.

he is hovering between 0 and 1% in most of the polls i've seen. and they have margins of error of four, plus or minus. he could be at negative four in some of these polls. >> interesting. >> i think he has a big -- i wasn't very good at math. he has a big, big challenge here. one of the challenges, and i did tweet about this yesterday as well. this is my main mode of communication. >> trump. >> i've learned this from donald trump, yes. you know, he is going to have to explain in these urban communities where he promises to make people safe, why he is so fundamentally unwilling to consider any steps that would prevent guns from flowing into the communities, which are some of which are war zones.

primarily because there are too many guns there. they're easy to access. and so there are a lot of issues that he is going to be confronted with when he goes into the hispanic community. donald trump's big enemy will be videotape. people know what he has been saying for the last year, and he -- he is going to be met with great skepticism, whether this lurch is genuine or the product of consultation with his latest core of advisors. >> david axelrod, thank you. great to talk to you. >> have a great day. we're staying on top of breaking news, a devastating earthquake in italy, killing at least 39 people and entire town is gone, according to its mayor. we have the latest on that disaster for you next.

we're staying on top of the breaking news from italy. now 39 people are judged dead. that number will go up. they're just starting to sort through rubble. there are many, many people missing. the quake struck overnight and

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many conspiracy theories this election. we take a closer look at these

claims and try to expose the facts. let's begin with donald trump's claim that a rigged system will favor hillary clinton in the election. listen to this. >> the whole thing with voter i.d., identification, i think it is really -- i mean, people will walk in and vote ten times maybe. who knows. just like bernie sanders, i said it was rigged. well, it is rigged here too. i'm telling you, november 8th, we better be careful, because the election will be rigged. i hope the republicans are watching closely. you've got to get everybody to go out and watch. and go out and vote. >> joining us now, cnn media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter. let's talk about this. is there history in this country of people being able to go out and vote ten times and there by swaying an election? >> voter fraud happens only once in a while. it is very rare. when it happens, it is investigated. there are regulators that

oversee this sort of thing. there are also volunteers at polling places that look out for this kind of thing. when it happens, it is usually investigated. sometimes prosecuted. but it is not very common. and what trump is describing is something so much more extreme than what the reality of voter fraud is. >> one of the things that keeps coming up, certainly on social media, there were these 59 precincts in philadelphia in 2012, and mitt romney did not get one single vote. that just, you know, sort of raises everybody's eyebrows. how can that be unless it was rigged with fraud? >> until you think about t precincts in places like utah, president obama didn't get any votes. it becomes talking points. once they become talking points, they lose almost all semblance of reality. yes, it is possible to have an

entire precinct where all the votes are for one candidate. that's because most of them are african-american voters, morman. >> because of that, the 59 precincts, the philadelphia inquirer went back to find them, and they went and tried to find them and interview them. they found many had moved. others did not know they were registered republicans, and others confirmed that they in fact had voted for barack obama. so they did, you know, there is real gumshoe reporting. >> that's a good note about going to the local source. when you see these ideas online, i sue he them on my facebook all the time. donald trump has mainstreamed conspiracy. you can take it for what it is. when you see it, go to the local sources and reliable sources. in this case, going to the philadelphia enquirer is the best source to go to, because they did the research. >> investigate it.

next conspiracy theory. hillary clinton's health. listen to what some trump supporters and trump himself have been saying about this. >> one thing she doesn't have the strength or the stamina, coupled with all of the other problems that this country has. >> what is new are the other reports of the observations of hillary clinton's behavior and mannerisms, specifically with what you just showed in those previous clips as well as her d disfaysia. >> put down hillary clinton illness and look at the videos for yourself. >> what's the truth? >> she did have a health scare in 2012, and yes, it took time for her to recover. >> she fell down. >> she fell down. there is no evidence that's causing lingering problems that would stop her from being president. when you hear donald trump talk about her stamina, it is really a cue to his voters to supporters to think, oh, maybe she does have that secret

illness i am i've heard about on talk radio. there is no evidence she does. her physician has said she is fit to serve as president. >> in terms of going to the source, is there a way for her to be more transparent and release more medical records. >> i think we'll see trump and clinton to share more records. that's perfectly fair. there a difference between reporting, which we should do, versus buying into the outrageous conspiracy theories. rudy giuliani telling people to google, that's a slippery slope to be saying. if you google 9/11, you're going to see insane theories about what happened. just because it is on the internet doesn't make it true. >> breaking news. one last conspiracy theory, you've heard repeated many times, that immigrants, we don't know where they're coming from. they have no documentation. people, refugees coming from syria, many of them are terrorists. >> this is something donald trump continues to say in

different ways as he talks about his immigration plan. there is just no evidence, and think about it this way, this is helpful for the viewers. think about the contrary evidence when you hear a claim like that. think about the reasons it may not be true. in this case, if there were thousands of radical terrorists across the border, that would be the biggest news story in the world. it doesn't pass the smell test. i get in an election season, all sides want to believe their candidate of choice, but we've got to apply scrutiny right now. >> brian stelter, thanks so much. great to talk to you. the good stuff, that's next.

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delivered a total of, wait for it, 363 pizzas for his birthday. that's what he wanted to do for his birthday. >> why are my kid sos in cad quite. >> don't say that. >> is that bad parenting. >> this is a great example to do something better. >> i'm going to call them later. time now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> speaking of perfect people. >> i'll take that chris. you guys have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," a strong earthquake rocks central italy, mountain towns in ruins. >> it woke us up. >> now the scramble for survivors buried under the rubble. plus, did trump says he'll pivot on immigration. >> certainly can be a softening, because we're not looking to hurt people. >> how the cornerstone of his campaign could be