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forecast that we're getting right now. we'll stay on top of it together with you, jennifer, thank you very, very much. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next, donald trump one-on-one with the mexican president. did he ask mexico to pay for the wall? vicente fox versus donald trump and the former president of mexico in a fierce war of words with the republican nominee. fox is my guest tonight. new polls show the race is tightening. is trump making a major comeback? let's go "out front." >> good evening, i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, the breaking news, donald trump face to face with the president of mexico talking about the core campaign issue that he has had since the beginning and that is the wall. major questions tonight about
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what really happened behind those closed doors. trump sharing the stage afterwards with president enrique pena nieto. the republican nominee speaking in softer tones about the relationship between the two countries calling mexicans tremendous, even though as he stood by his call to build the wall. >> we did discuss the wall. we didn't discuss payment of the wall. that will be for a later date. >> trump's visit came hours before he's scheduled to give a major speech outlining his immigration approximately see and that is tonight and as we count you down tonight jim acosta begins your coverage in mexico city. he was there and you have breaking news about what the president of mexico told trump about that wall. >> reporter: that's right. you remember during this press conference donald trump said that they did not discuss who would pay for that wall that donald trump wants to have along of the u.s.-mexico border. in just the last few minutes enrique pena nieto the president of mexico tweeted at the beginning of the conversation with donald trump i made clear
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that mexico will not pay for the wall. that directly contradicts what donald trump told reporters and told the world during that press conference and obviously, that wall is a big subject in tonight's speech on immigration. >> it may be his most donald trump move yet, flying to the capital of a country he has slammed time and again, today trump met face to face with president enrique pena nieto to talk, what else, immigration. >> we recognize and respect the right of either country to build a physical barrier or wall on any of its borders. >> translator: the mexican population in the united states contributes to development in both mexico and the u.s. they're honest people, working people, people of good will who respect family. mexicans deserve everybody's respect. >> reporter: but after their meeting trump told reporters he and pena nieto never discussed whether mexico will indeed, pick up the check and the gop's
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signature proposal, a wall on the southern u.s. border. >> we did discuss the wall. we didn't discuss payment of the wall and that will be for a later date. this was a very preliminary meeting. i think it was a are an excellent meeting. the jaw-dropping meeting, with the gop nominee may well overshadow his own speech on immigration later tonight. >> big speech on immigration. we'll be talking about that in arizona. >> that appears to be just fine with the campaign which quickly scrambled to arrange the visit just days after receiving pena nieto's invitation against the advice of u.s. embassy staff who said the trip would be difficult on such short notice. >> he gets an invitation late last week from the president of mexico and drops what he's doing to sit down. >> this was no lovefest. trump's incendiary comments on mexico and tweets on mexicans have enraged this neighbor to the south. >> when mexico sends its people they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime.
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they're rapists, and some, i assume, are good people. >> his immigration speech set for tonight trump is expected to steer clear of highlighting his original proposal for a deportation force to round up the nation's undocumented in favor of prioritizing the removal of unauthorized immigrants who have broken the law and aides say he will push hard for a wall along the u.s.-mexico border standing by his signature pledge to voters. >> we will build the wall 100% and mexico will be paying for the wall! >> reporter: even though trump's son and other aides stressed trump is listening to advisers who want him to moderate his tone. >> correct, but you have to start withic bahhy steps. >> that shift isn't selling well south of the border where former mexican president vicente fox has blasted trump's views. >> i am not going to pay for that [ bleep ] wall. he should pay for it. he's got the money. >> as it turns out, exactly who is going to pay for that wall is
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still an issue between donald trump and the government of the republic of mexico, erin. another thing that came up during this press conference, i asked donald trump whether he and pena nieto exchanged apologies about the tough words they said about one another over the last months and donald trump said no apology was issued although pena nieto did say that the mexican people have felt hurt by donald trump's comments. >> thank you very much, jim. sara murray is out front in phoenix because that's where donald trump will be giving his much-delayed and very important immigration address tonight. sara, what are we going to hear in this speech? obviously now this will become a big issue as to the payment of the wall. what are we going to hear tonight? >> reporter: oh, absolutely. the big question is if donald trump is seeing these reports and if he's going to come out here and address what president pena has said since donald trump left mexico. what we were hearing from advisers is that donald trump going to talk about what they see as the signature of his
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border security plan along the border with mexico and then he would talk about how he would pay for it not just as what he sees as mexico's contribution and defunding sanctuary cities in the u.s. things like stripping benefits that they believe go to undocumented immigrants in the u.s. all of that would be used, advisers believe, to help pay for a portion of the wall and that tone could change in the wake of what we're hearing now from president pena. the other key issue, erin is what we've been talking about over the last week. the way donald trump's tone has waffled on how to deal with 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s. upon advisers are saying he will address that tonight, but the question is will he lay out a clear plan about how he will deal with the 11 million people as president or will he gloss over the issue and say the most important thing is border security and after we deal with that we'll deal with the 11 million. >> sara, thank you very much. border security and i.e., the wall when you're talking to donald trump. >> clinton supporter maria
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cardona who does work for a pro-clinton super pac. trump supporter, kayleigh mcnany, and senior adviser to the trump campaign boris epistein and former director of the nixon presidential library. all of you with me, let me start with you. this is trump's first meeting as head of state and they were both at the two podiums and he had a very subdued tone. now, of course, you have this controversy brewing over who's lying? he says paying for the wall didn't come up and the president of mexico said one of the first things he said he is not going to pay for the wall. >> this is a very good day for donald trump. any time a candidate can be seen with the stature of president with the pomp and circumstance, and donald trump seen as so bombastic with many people saying i can't see him being presidential. as for the wall and the payment,
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i have never taken that seriously. i've never understood how he said he will get mexico to pay for it. the wall is going to be built. i don't think it's an important issue in any substantial way. >> boris, but if it comes to somebody lied then it could become very important and all of a sudden this big day for donald trump, what if he's a liar. the president of mexico is calling donald trump a liar. >> let's not jump to any conclusions. azhar i said, it was a great day. it's about leadership. he has shown he was the true leader of this country, just like when he went to louisiana first and just like he responded to brussels, nice, paris, san bernardino and orlando. he has shown the leadership that we have not seen from barack obama and definitely not from hillary clinton who is sipping champagne cocktails in the hamptons most of the time. that's one and very important to know. as far as she says, the wall is going to be built. as far as who pays for the wall? that's a negotiation and this he said/she said will be part of it and this is just the start of a
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long-term discussion that will happen once donald trump is president. >> but, tim, donald trump said they did not discuss paying for the wall. the president of mexico said he said mexico is not paying for it. somebody is lying. >> until about three minutes ago this was a great day for donald trump because as ari said, that's why when people run to reelection they don't want the other candidate to debate them because they were on the same stage. this is a summit for donald trump. one of the first rules of international diplomacy is you do not embarrass your host. clearly, pena tweeted that because he felt embarrassed when trump said we didn't even talk about the wall. there are a lot of people in mexico who expected their president to make clear to mr. trump that you do not force mexicans to do that. i think that was a huge error on his part. so despite the fact the optics looked great at the time this is a huge problem.
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>> kayleigh? >> first of all, i don't think donald trump discussed this with the president. maybe the president made a passing remarks. who knows? donald trump did not discuss it and you know why he didn't discuss it? he has five revenue sources that mexico will pay for the wall that don't require the consent of president nieto. halting remittances, raising ports -- >> which might be unconstitutional. >> raising port fees and increasing the fees for visas issued to mexican ceos. he doesn't need the approval of the mexican president to do that. what happened today is historic because for the first time you saw the mexican president consenting to a border wall. you saw him agreeing to parts of nafta and this was a huge day for donald trump. hillary clinton, everyone go on her website, no immigration policy to be found. >> did it all change three minutes ago when the president of mexico put out a tweet saying essentially donald trump is lying. >> let me parse some words here because it could come down to that. donald trump said who pays for the wall? we didn't discuss. i looked up what the definition of discussion was.
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merriam-webster said, the act of talking about something with another person or a group of people, a conversation about something. so to kayleigh's point that could have been a passing comment or certainly a very -- to which trump did not respond to and kept moving on. so in that case, and that definition he's not lying. it doesn't put a dark cloud over what we saw today which is exactly what you're saying. we knew this was going to happen, by the way. who thought they would both walk away from this into some kind of he said/she said moment. >> i actually do think it puts a dark cloud on a day that i actually don't think was a good day for the trump campaign because it was also seen by many as a desperate act. he needed to change the conversation. he has seen the national polls. >> he was at a podium with the president of mexico. his arch enemy, and the guy actually took a meeting with him. how is that bad? >> because he needed to change
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the conversation and the fact of the matter is he needed to go there, and if he did not discuss the wall which is something that he has put front and center, you have people at his rally saying build the wall, deport them all and if he's saying we didn't discuss the wall. what are -- >> he said he discussed the wall, but not payment. >> he has put that front and center and now, pena nieto is saying that they did talk about it and mexico is not going to pay for the wall and is now donald trump going to call him a liar? >> you won't find anything in that meeting to say it was bad. let's just be fair about that. >> do i think when one person says something happened and another says it didn't -- >> that's a problem. >> it's semantics. when donald trump and he is the president and he is the leader he will not need president nieto's approval or consent to build the wall or for mexico to pay for the wall and there were ways for them to pay for it. >> hold on! >> remittances, serious
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constitutional issues which is beyond the scope of what we're going to talk about right now, far from easy to -- >> sure, we're going to pay for it. would you expect him to do that? >> they're not going to pay for the wall, boris. >> it's as ridiculous as ari said and it was never realistic. >> can i just say this? >> very quickly. >> hillary clinton did not have anything to prove. >> she didn't go to louisiana. >> she knew pena nieto, she has met with him before and has met with world leaders and she has nothing to prove. donald trump has everything to prove. >> you guys -- >> you are all going to stay with me because next clinton's big lead in the crucial state of wisconsin, gone, poof. what's happened? trump comeback or not? trump taking on former mexican president vicente fox and their war of words getting very ugly and vicente fox is my guest. trump's campaign chief amid anti-gay and antisemitic claims
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breaking news. a brand-new poll showing a dead heat in the race for the white house. a national fox news foal showing clinton with just a two-point lead over donald trump and that is within the margin of error and closer than any recent national poll. in wisconsin, a marquette university law school poll finds clinton ahead by nine points among registered voters and what is significant is earlier this month is nine points and an incredible narrowing in the race that was positive for hillary clinton just a few weeks ago. joe johns is out front. >> reporter: hillary clinton today dismissing donald trump's meeting with the president of mexico. >> it certainly takes more than trying to make up for a year of insults and insinuations by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again. that is not how it works. >> reporter: clinton's remarks today come after she spent much of the last week focusing on fund raising and debate
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preparations. >> the stakes this fall are as high as any election in our lifetimes. >> reporter: trump was her focus today in a speech to the american legion in cincinnati. >> you don't build a coalition by insulting our friends or acting like a loose cannon. >> reporter: the democratic nominee hammered her rival on veterans issues calling out trump for insulting the khan family and senator john mccain. >> i will never, ever disrespect gold-star families who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation or prisoners of war who endured so much in our name. to insult them is just so wrong and it says a lot about the person doing the insulting. >> reporter: meanwhile, team clinton is bracing for the fbi's public release of its report investigating clinton's use of her private e-mail server as
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more uncovered e-mails are making headlines and giving trump fresh lines of attack. >> hillary clinton said under oath that she turned over all of her work-related e-mails, but we now know that is just one more clinton lie. >> the state department announcing tuesday it may have uncovered additional e-mails related to the benghazi attack. the 30 e-mails in question could include duplicates and are being examined. these were e-mails about benghazi. it just never ends with the clintons. >> reporter: amid the ongoing questions about clinton's e-mail practices during her time as secretary of state, a new washington post/abc news poll shows her unpopularity reaching an all-time high in the survey. among registered voters 59% say they have an unfavorable view of clinton while 60% say the same about trump. hillary clinton's campaign chair
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john podesta put out a statement on trump's visit to mexico. it says in part, donald trump has made an outlandish policy to force mexico to pay for the wall ask it's the first opportunity to make good on his offensive campaign promises. trump choked. he doesn't have the courage to advocate for his campaign promises when he's not in front of a friendly crowd. erin? >> joe johns, thank you very much. of course, all eyes on donald trump tonight and what he's going to say to a friendly crowd about the wall and immigration. my panel back with me and also with me now the executive director of the new york state democratic party, basil smikle, let me start with you. i think it's fair to say a lot of people were widening to the point of no return for donald trump. here we are, down to five. national poll up, according to know and we have to see if it's true, appears to be withering.
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>> most folks say everyone gets a bounce in their convention. as we get into september these polls tighten and that is typical and i expected it, but i will also say that if you, number one, look at these important states, pennsylvania, ohio, among others and the swing states and i think you see a different story and number one, number two, i think she's actually gaining among constituencies that are perhaps in some point in history have not skewed in our favor like highly educated, and they were still doing very well and we can feel confident about that. >> what are you saying, though? are you surprised that voters -- >> when donald trump stops making terrible mistakes like attacking the khan family and an american judge in indiana and calling him a mexican, when trump stops making mistakes and if the race naturally tightens it shows the only person the democrats can nominate and lose
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to donald trump is hillary clinton and vice versa. the only person that hillary clinton can beat is probably donald trump. so that's the odd state of the race. let me give you some number, and i think this is telling. trump is not in trouble because of how he's doing with hispanics and blacks. he's doing it out of par with your typical republican. >> he's in trouble because mitt romney who lost won white women by 14 points. trump's down nine. mitt romney won white college graduates by 14 points and trump is down 12 and white college graduate women, romney won them by 6 and trump won them by 27. >> maria, when you look at the unfavorable rating for hillary clinton, we are getting it all-time low and 47 e% of americans have an unfavorable view. the only person they might like least is donald trump. we talked about this. these are the two most hated candidates, possibly in american
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history. it's pretty stunning that hurt him in the overall polls, people liked her less and less. >> again, they have been hammering -- the trump campaign and the republicans have been hammering her consistently on this, mail stuff and this is a natural tightening of the race. i have always expected this and i will be one of the democrats and i've said it many times that we should not expect this to be a landslide. we should not expect the ten-point lead that hillary has and might still have for that to continue until november. this is a very divided country that we live in. we're still a very polarized electorate and this race has gotten and will get uglier. >> i also think that the more that she fights back, that helps in terms of her only standing and among the con stitcheries. it could be a turnoff because
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she's a woman and because she's fighting back. >> can she win? can he win? can he come back? >> these polls are looking pretty tight. >> donald trump will lose and that's why going to mexico is a smart move on his part whether it falls apart. he needed to try to soften his image to get disaffected voters that ari laid out right there. his play is not hispanic voters. >> that's the point. >> it's trying to get the white voters, but isn't it an amazing statement -- let me leave it on this, that the race is going to get uglier than we are right now? it's pretty darn ugly right now. >> tim, let me ask you a question because today the meeting with the mexican president happens. take aside discussing the payment of the wall, why in the world would the president want to the do this meeting? >> i haven't the faintest idea -- >> it doesn't make sense. >> he may be more unpopular in his country than a certain politicians are in ours.
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pena did something remarkable for the trump summit. he gave the man who disrespected mexican people a summit and trump did exactly what he needed to do the problem was how he handled the wall question. i wanted to answer coalitions because for our viewers, one of the things we all ought to keep in mind is when we talk about hillary. we talk about her winning the obama coalition and holing it because with the obama coalition you win. you become president. what trump has to do is he has to hold the mitt romney coalition plus because you can't become president with the mitt romney coalition. >> no. >> when in 2012, and you could now. the issue for trump and see if you agree. he could bring new people, and he's doing that. >> wisconsin is not an out there pole. let's look at two others --
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pennsylvania michigan. state republicans haven't win since 1998. these are states that -- >> trump is not doing it with the numbers yet to make up the difference. >> romney in losing took white, non-college voters by 18 points and trump has them now by 19. that's not enough of a gap. truch has got to accelerate that lead and pennsylvania is always the football. you're republicans and george bush we thought we could have taken pennsylvania in 2004 and we fell way short. he's got a tough road. >> it feels much different. >> be less bombastic and more thoughtful. >> he's done that. he's been an absolutely excellent candidate and he will win this race within two points. the momentum is in his
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direction. no doubt about that. >> thanks to all. out front next we are standing by for a major special by donald trump and this is the big immigration night. the president of mexico said he told trump mexico will not pay for the wall. the trump campaign has just responded and that is next. the former president of mexico our guest and steve bannon, trump's third campaign chief in two months and tonight new questions about his past. (announcer vo) who says your desk phone
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breaking news. as we count you down to donald trump's highly anticipated speech on immigration including his plan to build a wall and have mexico pay for it, moments ago the trump campaign responding to the mexican president's tweet. in the tweet the mexican president said he told donald trump or he made it clear mexico would not pay for the wall. according to the trump campaign, quote, here is their response to that tweet. today was the first part of the discussion and a relationship builder between mr. trump and
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president pena nieto. it was not a negotiation and that would have been inappropriate. the wall obviously an issue of emotion and passion, it is one that makes trump very unpopular in mexico. john voss is out front. >> reporter: donald trump following his meeting with mexican president enrique pena nieto, his words and tone of his words remarkably different from what he said over the past 15 months. >> a strong, prosperous and vibrant mexico is in the best interest of the united states and will keep and help keep for a long, long period of time america together. >> the announcement of trump's surprise visit met with anger across mexico. many took to one of trump's favorite weapons twitter from top mexican politician miguel babosa. you are not welcome in mexico, get out. former first lady, we want you to know you are not welcome. we mexicans have dignity and we reject your hate speech.
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historian challenged trump. apologize for calling us rapists and killers and guarantee that you won't build a wall or deport 11 million mexicans. trump previewed what would become the cornerstone of his campaign to a group of texas donors. >> everything is coming across the border. the illegals, the cars, the whole thing, it's like a big mess. like vomit. >> following that, the now familiar spring of one-liners that has fueled trump's base while infuriating hispanic voters. >> they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> we're going to build a great wall. the wall will be paid for by mexico. >> and who is going to pay for wall? >> reporter: two months ago mexico's president, trump's host today, slammed trump. >> translator: in the past, some leaders address their societies in those terms, hitler and mussolini did that and the
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outcome is clear to everyone. >> reporter: trump's occasional attempt to connect with his panics like his taco bowl post on sink o dcinco de mayo backfi. trump became an object of ridicule. trump halloween masks flew off the shelves and trump pinatas, the subject of some serious beatings, but perhaps no one is more incensed at the prospect of a trump presidency than former president vicente fox. >> the democracy cannot take us to crazy people that doesn't know what's going on in the world today. >> we're still waiting to see the reaction here in mexico to the new, kinder, gentler, donald trump and given the level of anger and loathing so many have toward the republican nominee, it is unlikely that one news conference would change many opinions and we are waiting to find out what donald trump has to say about mexico and the wall when he delivers that major policy speech to his supporters
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in phoenix later tonight because in the past, donald trump has been known to change his message sometimes depending on the audience. erin? >> john, thank you very much. my panel back with me. mark, as we count down to the speech it's a crucial night for donald trump. he's got to talk about paying for the wall. he's got to talk about deporting 11 million people. this morning, mike pence, the vice presidential candidate said they are going to deport 11 million people. touch the line, and come back, whatever it is. >> come back in. >> the reality of it is, that's impossible to do so how is he going to get around that? >> this infuriates the viewers out there when i say this because it's realistic. the fact of the matter is donald trump has been getting away with saying one thing and then changing his mind and not being called on the carpet, not by the media, but the voters himself and he still has the support of his core supporters and that he
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is softening his position or moderating his position or whatever you want to say about his position, by doing so he's opening himself by being accepted by more voters. >> that's if these other voters believe him, and i think what they're seeing is, i mean, they're seeing a transparent trump that went to mexico out of desperation because he knows that he had to prove at some point that he could be presidential, that he did have the temperament to be president because he has also seen these polls where poll after poll after poll, most americans don't believe that he has the temperament to be president. hillary clinton had absolutely nothing to prove and tonight is going to be another huge test for donald trump because he has to continue to talk about deporting the 11 million, but he has to try to attract some other independent, college-educated women voters who at this point don't see him as realistically, someone who could be commander in chief. >> really quick, donald trump has proven to all of us he's a
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politician. he says he's not a politician and outside the system. he's a politician, and acting like a politician. i'm sorry, kayleigh, the stare of death at me. the fact of the matter is right now, if he wants to win in november, he better start moderating his positions and trying to open himself up. >> the mark -- let me go to basil here. jorge ramos came out. whether today was a huge day for donald trump or not, interesting what he just said. the president of mexico looked weak and shy next to donald trump. that's a very significant thing to say. there is no more important meeting that donald trump could have had and in his dreams he never would have had a chance to have the meeting. >> the mexican -- >> jorge ramos saying the mexican president looked weak and shy. >> i don't know if he looked weak, but he did demure somewhat, i would agree with that and donald trump also looked unprepared. he looked uncomfortable. >> there's no of course about it. i think he looked unprepared and it waisn't his forum while we
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talk about the optics, i would take that the president went at him and said that you need to treat mexican immigrants as real people that are actually contributing to your economy and you also need to be mindful of the fact that the number of mexicans crossing your border have decreased quite significantly. to me what that says is that donald trump is unfamiliar with what's going on. >> you see on the other side, however, for the first time the mexican president saying hey, yeah, i'm willing to put up a barrier on our border. you have him saying for the first time, yeah, i'm willing to renegotiate parts of nafta. he's moved the president of in echo before he was commander in chief. he took the invitation to go to mexico. hillary clinton was in the hamptons all week. he went to louisiana and the floods while obama was in martha's vineyard. >> you call your democratic opponent a bigot? that's commander in chief? that is not -- there is nothing
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commander in chief about that. >> the democrats on this panel obviously are desperate and probably paranoid at this point because they've seen the polls. we are down by just two points in the fox news poll and we're up in north carolina and close in ohio and florida and closer in pennsylvania and michigan and we're doing great and we don't have anything to prove and donald trump is the real leader in this country and hillary clinton is lagging in the polls as you just saw. >> former president of mexico vicente fox, why did he apologize on behalf of his country for trump's visit? he is my guest and he is right after this. trump's latest campaign chief, new questions tonight about his past. no one's the same without the game of football...
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and the breaking news, we are awaiting a major speech from donald trump tonight. the topic, immigration. lots of questions about what happened behind closed doors in his meeting with the mexican president. out front now the former president of mexico, vicente fox. president fox, thank you so much for being with me tonight. i know, you know, of president pena nieto. he says he made it clear that mexico would not pay for the
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wall. donald trump says the payment of the wall was not discussed. could they both be right? >> hello? >> can you hear me, president fox? >> yes. now, yes. >> let me try again. i was just saying president pena says he made it clear that mexico will not pay for the wall. donald trump says they didn't talk about payment of the wall. they didn't discuss it. could they both be right? >> having trouble with the sound, but if you can hear me, yes. a lot of contradictions out of this meeting. i think trump came for what he wanted, just a picture and go back. he played the violin to mexico to mexican music saying exactly the opposite he is talking about in united states, and i am sure tonight he'll be in arizona playing the violin to those
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followers and he's always lying and always out of the play. >> you say that he's lying. you said earlier today that you rejected donald trump's visit to mexico and obviously you and donald trump have been battling over whether you invited him to come to mexico. you said no. you called him a liar and you said you only invited him to come to mexico to apologize to the mexican people. let me just play what you said in may to donald trump. >> think it is very important to invite donald trump to come to mexico and to learn about the real mexico that is -- i would think, totally different. >> isn't this meeting today exactly what you wanted, president fox? yes, exactly what i mentioned that first, he learns about what mexico really is which he
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doesn't seem to know anything about it and today he learned a little bit, but number two, my request was for him to come and apologize to mexico, to mexicans in mexico and to mexicans in the united states. that was my demand from him which, by the way, that's what pena didn't do today, and i think he was wrong. i think it was not correct to invite him to not commit him for nothing, just to let him play the violin here and let him go back with his picture that he wanted back to the states. what we learned here was the most inconsistent man i have ever met. he lies every other minute of the day. he changes his position. now what he told mexicans is that he likes us very much, that we are great people, and that we
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are going to work together. that's not what he said all along the last 14 months. so it's incredential that he can change and that he can lie and be such a hypocrite. >> he has been consistent on one thing when it comes to mexico day in and day out, every other minute of the day and that is that he is going to build the wall. do you accept that he would build that wall? because it seems like the president of mexico today accepted that. that wasn't a question. the debate seemed to be how to pay for it not whether it would be built. >>. >> well, a lot of the things that they discussed we don't know about, but what i clearly saw is that pena denied to pay for that wall, and number two, the one that had stated that he would keep on his idea of building the wall is donald trump, but instead of that he changed the position of kicking out the 11 million mexicans here and they didn't even talk about
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it. he had mentioned before that he would quit nafta, that he would get out of nafta which today he denied. he says it needs some improvement and that we'll work on improve am. so he is just playing the violin to mexicans in mexico and then he goes to arizona, and he will come with a different story. i think it was a historical mistake on the size of president pena. maybe he's too desperate to improve the public opinions here in mexico and the same reasoning applies to truck and urging me to pull down in his position with the united states. >> president fox, i appreciate your time tonight. >> a pleasure. >> thank you, sir. donald trump's third campaign chief in two months. tonight, new details on steve bannon's troubled past.
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where bannon uses an anti-gay slur referring to progressive women. >> the women that will lead this process were pro-family, they would have husbands and they would love their children that wouldn't be a bunch of [ bleep ] that would be from the seven sisters. >> as part of a court dispute over child support, she claimed bannon did not want their daughters attending a private school the family was considering in california because, quote, he doesn't like jews and he doesn't like the way they raise their kids to be whiney brats and he didn't want the girls going to school with jews. >> the trump campaign did not respond to cnn's request. noting bannon proudly sent the girls to the private school in
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question for middle school and high school. bannon is also facing new attention for this 2005 lawsuit brought against the company he worked for. bannon is not named as a defendant in the suit, but the allegations stem from a former employee who reported to him who suffered from multiple sclerosis and claims that she was laid off while on maternity leave because of her sex and her disability. that employee appearing on air about the suit in 2006. >> i went from being the right-hand person to my boss. a very close relationship where we would be on the phone sometimes ten different calls a day, working on things of the highest priority to not even being able to get my boss on the phone to not being able to ask help a question and i felt that it really was because they didn't know how to deal with my pregnancy. >> the case was dismissed after a settlement was reached. all this comes just days after other negative headlines for bannon featuring an incident in 1996 with his then wife when he
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was charged with battery and domestic violence. according to the police report obtained by cnn she claimed bannon grabbed her by the neck and wrist, pulled her down and left red marks. bannon pleaded not guilty and the case was eventually dismissed, but these questions over his personal life are ones the trump campaign has had to face in recent days including by trump's running mate. >> i know steve. steve bannon has denied those charges. i know he enjoys a very strong relationship with his ex-wife and their two wonderful kids. >> does it bother you at all, those charges? >> well, i also know one other thing. i know the media loves to chase after these process stories and these staff stories. >> and there is also some additional scrutiny over steve bannon's voter registration. reports about what home in florida he actually lives in and questioned if he's in violation of election laws and the florida state department tells cnn they
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will review complaints they've received from local residents and erin, this adding one more potential distraction tonight for the trump campaign. >> thank you very much, sunlen. >> next, sanding by for donald trump's major immigration speech in arizona just hours after his major meeting with mexico's president. i'm anne howard and i'm michael howard. we left on our honeymoon in january 2012. it actually evolved into a business. from our blog to video editing... our technology has to hang tough with us. when you're going to a place without electricity, you need a long battery life.
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be taking the stage as you see at a rally in arizona to deliver a major speech on immigration and on monday hear personal stories about both the presidential candidates from those who know them best. that's labor day right here on cnn starting at 8:00 p.m. thank you very much for joining us. "a.c. 360" starts right now. good evening. john berman here in for anderson. we are waiting for donald trump. he speaks shortly tonight on immigration in phoenix. you are looking at live pictures right now. he will take that stage in just a short while fresh from the surprise visit to mexico. boy, have we got breaking news on that. moments after meeting with mexican president enrique pena nieto, donald trump announced loud and clear with millions of people watching that when it comes to who pays for a wall between the two countries and this is the central tenet of his campaign the two men did not discuss it. now that was a surprise. moments ago from surprise to