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camera. kyung lau, cnn, los angeles. >> and the cnn film "holy hell" airs later tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "out front" starts right now. "out front" next, immigration blowback. donald trump's latino supporters jumps ship and one of them saying he doesn't want to be part of trump's scam. a hurricane bearing down on the u.s. millions in its path from florida all of the way up the east coast and cnn going one-on-one with trump's controversial doctor. wait until you see this. let's go "out front." and good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front tonight, whiplash. in less than 24 hours donald trump speaking on both sides of the border and both sides of his mouth.
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trump talking tough tonight on immigration on the campaign trail. >> we're going to build the wall. mexico's going to pay for the wall. we're going to stop -- >> but in a radio interview with conservative host laura ingram, trump created more confusion by saying he was going to soften his position on deporting undocumented immigrants. >> we're softening. we'll do it in a very humane way and we'll see it with the people that are in the country. >> joe biden firing back at donald trump dismissing his high-profile mexico visit and his immigration speech. >> i don't know if he knows his own immigration policy. >> and tim cane charging that trump lost his nerve when he went face to face with mexico's president. >> losing his will and losing his backbone in key moments when he's supposed to be such a great
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negotiator and pour on the red made and saying the divisive things again, keep america safe. it's no time for amateurs. >> jim acosta begins our coverage tonight out front in miami. jim, so last night the fiery speech after the much more tempered speech in mexico, and now today saying he's softening. what's going on? >> reporter: that's right, erin. donald trump is back to referring his immigration stance as a softening, but that is not how his toughest critics and even his strongest supporters see it and as we saw earlier some of his high-profile latino surrogates are bolting from his campaign. donald trump proved once again today his stance on immigration is a moving target. >> we're going to build the wall. mexico's going to pay for the wall. >> reporter: at two different events in ohio, the gop nominee was talking tough on immigration while toning down his rhetoric
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on mexico one day after his historic visit with mexican president enrique pena nyetieto. a visit designed to show he could be diplomatic. >> i just came back from a meeting with the president of mexico where i expressed my deep respect for the people of this country. >> including a radioa peerance, suggesting he will justify the deportation of krim wicriminals. >> we have a lot of people in this country that you can't have and those people will get out and then we're going to make a decision at a later date once everything is stabilized. i think you will see there's quite a bit of softening. >> problem is -- >> there will be no amnesty. you cannot obtain legal status or become a citizen of the united states by illegally entering our country. >> most of his supporters and
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critics heard trump hardening in his immigration speech in phoenix warning every undocumented person in the u.s. is subject to deportation and it led some of the latino surrogates straight for the exits. >> i've resigned. i know other people have resigned. it's not a good feeling because the alternative is not much better, but i'm unwilling to be part of his propaganda machine. >> the clinton campaign insists trump hasn't softened a bit except when it comes to confronting mexico's president over who should pay for a wall on the southern u.s. border, a matter trump claims he didn't discuss with pena nieto. >> we did discuss the wall. we didn't discuss payment of the wall. >> the mexican president insists he made his stance clear. >> translator: i was emphatic that mexico would not pay for the wall. >> that was a choke, and i think it shows that diplomacy is not for amateurs.
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donald trump is an amateur. >> reporter: erin, we should point out there say bit of a mini staff shake-up inside the trump campaign. we found out from sources that earlier today rick gates, a deputy who is under the former campaign chairman of paul manafort is leaving the campaign while the campaign is now bringing on a man named david bossie to be the campaign manager. david bossie worked with the conservative group citizens united and here we are heading into the final stretch of the campaign and donald trump is still making moves with his staff. >> thank you very much, jim. >> out front now, david gergen served as adviser to four presidents including reagan and clinton. basil smikle, boris epistein, clinton supporter. corinne jean pierre and the spokesperson for moveon.org and mark preston, executive editor of cnn politics. mark, let me start with you, though, yet another change, shift within the trump campaign. a manafort loyalist out and
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another change. change is still happening here, three different leaders in just two months. >> right, and the question is will we continue to see changes in the coming weeks? look, this has been a campaign that is certainly unconventional and his really thrived on chaos in being disarray. however, we are at the point right now where the campaign really needs to bring it together, and i have to say that kellyanne conway and steve bannon when they had taken over a few weeks ago have tightened things up. i don't think it will necessarily hurt donald trump right now. i think his bigger problem right now is really appealing to a broader base of voters and he really needs to focus that. >> boris, to that point, a broader base of voters. jake monty resigning, one of several saying they no longer could stomach being with the trump campaign. these are guys who had gone on tv, hispanic-americans and said donald trump is not that bad. vote for him. >> steve cortes is another hispanic-american who continues to be an ardent supporter.
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it's one thing in the report to name names and jacob monty is the name we just heard. >> there are several others. >> with all due respect to those individuals and that's their individual choice and we do hope to win back their support for november 8th because in the end it's a binary choice between donald trump on one side who will secure the border and end sanctuary cities and catch and release and make sure e-verify is universally instituted and hillary clinton whose immigration approximately see is muddled and increase to syrian refugees. that's the bottom line. >> basil, go ahead. what donald trump has been doing is playing good cop/bad cop with the american people. his speech last night was one of the darkest i've ever heard. it was authoritarian, and the specter of these deportation forces going into my community, into our community. >> oh, nice! >> and rounding up individuals is scary to me.
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i think the american people should resoundly reject the kind of language that -- the kind of language that donald trump is bringing to this race. it's absolutely. >> that's not what's happening in the polls. >> the fact of the matter is hillary is about keeping families together. that's not what donald trump is talking about. >> you're right the polls are narrowing, but david gergen, what is the significance? you had alfonso aguilar, a pastor in texas and mr. monty, all of these individuals and high-profile hispanics that they could no longer be with the campaign. basil is right. last night's speech was too much. will it matter? >> i think zee to see it in context and donald trump is getting closer and he still could win this thing. nobody should count him out and he's showing the strength that we had not expected given everything else that's happened and having said that, this has been a mess and he wasted precious weeks in the campaign over trying to find a position he can support that would keep his base while also expanding his appeal in the hispanic
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community and at the end of two weeks he's come full circle and he's done it in a way where he's now strengthened his base, but at the expense -- he has bombed his bridges into the hispanic community. this is basically over. we're going to see more resignations from this group. >> if i may -- >> i just want to finish. and during these two weeks he could have let hillary clinton be the headline and she's been on the defensive. >> i know we're not the same person. very different views and mine are right, his are wrong. >> yours are right and mine are left. >> you just came out today and you had more e-mails come out today that doug band requested passports of huma abedin and said we'll figure it out. >> that was to go with bill clinton to release the journalist from north korea. >> that crosses lines. >> as far as the specific issue goes on immigration, donald
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trump has been consistent and i've been on the program saying two weeks -- >> hold on for a moment because here he is -- it doesn't seem like that, okay, because it does seem like he's trying to have it both ways. here he is yesterday in an eight-hour period in mexico and in his speech. let me play. >> we did discuss the wall. we didn't discuss payment of the wall and that will be for a later date. >> we will build a great wall along the southern border and mexico will pay for the wall. >> and there is crime, as you know, there is a lot of crime and there are a lot of problems, but i think together we'll solve those problems. >> i am going to create a new special deportation task force focused on identifying and quickly removing the most dangerous criminal illegal immigrants in america. >> for a second and third generation mexicans are just beyond reproach.
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spectacular, spectacular, hardworking people. >> we have no idea who these people are, where they come from. i always say trojan horse. >> joe? >> i think this is unbelievable. people don't realize what he said last night. the left has been looking for substance and he's bringing substance. the countries that will not -- >> but the question is he's saying different things at different times. not the substance. >> no, very careful what he said. he said countries won't take immigrants back these illegals. you watched donald trump game the situation and shake down those countries for money at the end of the day however this pans out. so they'll pay for the people that should go back to those countries, whether it's mexico or guatemala. countries that won't take them back and watch him turn this into a financial win. >> he won the day in the morning and lost the day in the evening and the ramifications are what weave seen in the last 24 hours and will continue over the next few days. next, a dangerous hurricane about to slam the east coast.
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breaking news. hillary clinton smashing fund-raising records for the month of august. just moments ago the campaign revealing that the democratic nominee has $143 million from august, that involves 37 fund raisers and it is the biggest yet for her campaign. jeff zeleny is out front. this came from more than just fund raisers and you're talking about millions of dollars from fund raisers, each of them and some very rich people. >> no doubt about it, erin. it really is a gold-plated list of who's who of celebrities, first of all. a combination of celebrities and actors and others and remember the california swing shake, $20 million in three days alone on that. last week in the hamptons, one night alone some $7 million here and it's not only that, to add up to the eye-popping number of $143 million, she's also getting
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a small set of donors to give to a lot of state party committees across the country. the maximum amount that some people can give if you give to everyone $366,000 from one person alone. that's how this number gets so high, erin. all legal and part of the campaign finance law, but that's how the number gets so high. >> by the way, it's why people think the system is so broken. there are limits of this and you can give $600,000 and it seems ridiculous to most people and she's doing very well when it comes to fund raising and how is that impacting the polls or are the polls reflecting that big haul? >> august had been on track to be a good month for her after the convention and our cnn poll of polls which is a survey of the five most recent, highly respected national surveys and she started the month ten points ahead of donald trump and she's ending the month five points ahead of donald trump.
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you can see right here 42% to 37%. so still a lead for sure in this national poll of polls, but not what many democrats had hoped for and the reasons campaign officials believe is the drip, drip, drip that we talk about so often with the e-mail controversy and the clinton foundation con troversy and the labor day kickoff of the campaign, and quite a few vulnerabilities, as well. >> jeff zeleny, thank you very much. boris, you have to admit these fund-raising numbers are -- >> they've been doing that since they left the white house. that's what happens when you leave the white house dead broke and now are worth $250 million. may i just -- it's all about the polls. we are either up on the polls. we are winning -- >> respond. >> way to muddle everything.
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look -- >> it's called an answer. >> that's what you think. she's playing the long game here, right? >> sure. >> her map is expanding while his map is shrinking and it's about getting to 270 or maybe more and this is what's going on so she's getting all this money and it's great and this is what the national political campaigns are all about is fund raising and you can't run the campaign -- >> it's ohio and florida. >> she's running a real campaign. >> more money in the product no one wants. >> she has an army in ten to 11 states. >> hold on, because here's the thing. this money is coming from rich people. justin timberlake, paul mccartney. is it easy for her to say i'm with the average american when she's with the celebrities. >> she has a record of supporting the middle class. >> where's the example? >> she has a record of going
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into the communities and working with people. >> she has a record of supporting the clinton foundation. >> she actually has a record doing this, but i will say this because -- hold on. hold on. >> it was the warren hatch bill. >> would you stop? >> there was a mention of state parties and let me talk about that, because what that money actually helps us do is build the party from the ground up. all of these state races -- >> she's raising money for a lot of others. >> okay. >> i just want to add. you had state senate races and areas where the death penalty are on the table. >> let her hang -- and also the senate is in play in the house and we'll see what happens there and that is also very important and that's the long game. >> you keep saying, but we're gaining in every state. >> hold on a second. to that point, the polls are tightening significantly. trump had a tough month, okay? and yet her lead was cut in half
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by the poll. >> i think thanks the convention, to be fair. as they get settled into a five-point race and what the trump people ought to be worried about that unregardless they close more they are still more and they're behind in every single swing state. trump is very competitive here, but why are they raising all this money? it's partly for insurance for her campaign and they want to roll up the score. if they can get the senate and if she can open this more after the first debate and then she can get the house and govern more effectively and that's the name of the game. we can win the presidency, but how do we govern and we need a big win. >> is that really possible? >> i'm sorry, that's just not happening. >> 100%? >> yes. the senate is a lot easier than the house. >> they'll never get the house. >> the senate is obviously a lot easier than the house and there's a good chance that the
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republicans, and they're in a much better position. and even from us from not doing press conferences is that the dog days of summer and her not being out there and raising money will pay off for her to buy ads in all of these states and we've seen her go up in arizo arizona. >> she's up -- that's how it works. >> she's up in arizona which is a state that should be republican. >> we are not down in every battleground state. we are up in florida. >> well, it depends on the polls. >> we are not done and the polls are a snapshot. we all agree with that. if the election were held today he would lose. >> i know that -- >> which is why the polls don't matter right now. >> the brexit people are down by
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three or four points. >> the polls were wrong. the polls were wrong. >> wait a second -- >> hold on one moment. >> i want to play something joe biden said today because one of the things that your campaign is trying to pick on about her is the clinton foundation. >> right. >> joe biden was asked about this today and there was a less than resounding defense for hillary. let me play joe biden today. >> do you think americans should be concerned at all about the ethics of the clinton foundation? has the clinton foundation always been 100% ethical in your view? >> think the clinton foundation like all foundations have found themselves in a position where things are changing, and i think she's going to change and adjust to the realities of how complicated it's become. >> that was not a ringing endorsement for her defense. >> it was not, and frankly, if you talked to some of mrs. clinton's closest friends you will find them baffled and the
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last 24 hours and they're baffled and they don't understand because they respect her in so many ways and so many things she's done and they look at this and say why? how did this happen? how did they allow this to happen? it looks too sloppy and it's coming back to hurt her. it's a definite drag on her campaign and that's why trump ought to get out of the way of this thing and let the story play out and not do the mexican thing. >> we're going to hit pause. >> thank you and next, one group applauding the immigration speech is white national firsts and the line in trump's speech getting their attention is next. >> a rocket bursting into a fireball at launch in cape canaveral. what went wrong? and tonight, live pictures from florida. a massive hurricane set to make landfall and tens of millions along the storm's path. a live report coming up. well she loves to say, "well, fantastic!" a lot.
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tonight, white nationalists are seizing on donald trump's tough talk when it comes to immigration insisting trump is speaking to them when he talks of deportation and restricting immigration. the campaign disavowing that
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suppo support, but these followers have become an issue for trump. tom foreman is out front. >> it is our right as a sovereign nation to choose immigrants that we think are the likeliest to thrive and flourish and love us. >> reporter: whether donald trump wanted to or not, his tough immigration speech triggered support among people who see immigration by minorities as a recipe for disaster. >> the speech last night was beautiful. it was really, really good, and i was really happy about it. >> the obvious difference was his skin color. >> neo-nazi england was thrilled as he appeared on the show of former klansman david duke who was pretty happy, too. >> we have to take america back and we have to defend the heritage of the people who created america. >> in other words, white people. one goal excited special praise. to keep immigration levels measured by population share within historical norms.
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>> some of these groups clearly believe that would mean a preference for white christian immigrants. white nationalist writer richard spencer cited long-ago legislation severely limiting immigrants from eastern, southern europe, africa, arabs and asians. trump is returning to the 1924 immigration act. immigrants will reflect the racial makeup of the country and white nationalist publisher jared taylor called the speech almost perfect. donald trump has tied our foolish immigration policies to every problem we have. trump has already been accused several times of encouraging bigoted or racist views. >> for a total and complete shutdown. >> reporter: for example, for his call for a ban on muslim immigrants. now he's pushing a somewhat different approach. >> applicants will be asked for their views about honor killings, about respect for women, gays and minorities,
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attitudes on radical islam. >> reporter: and his runningmate insist these policies are not about race. >> donald trump is saying we need to make sure the people that are coming into america of every race and creed and color share a fundamental appreciation for the ideals of this country. a fundamental admiration for the people of this country, and that's been something that's been a part of our immigration system for generations. >> still, even as the campaign says it wants nothing to do with david duke and his ilk, trump's approach is energizing some people who like america as a fundamentally white christian country and wants every entrance guarded with that in mind. erin? >> tom, thank you very much. out front now, donald trump's foreign policy adviser retired lieutenant general michael flynn and thank you very much for being here with me in person. you just heard tom foreman's report. what's your reaction to the fact that donald trump's message last night is resonating with white
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supremacists? >> white supremacists and kkk needs to go away and i mean, i would just say not only does donald trump disavow him, but i think most americans disavow that line of thinking and those kinds of groups and erin, as you and many, many people know, the kkk came out of the democratic party. senator byrd who is deceased now -- >> what's relevant is what they're doing now. >> i know it, but don't -- don't try to tie, you know, the kkk to the republican party or conservative movement in this country. >> everything that donald trump is talking about has to do with all americans in this country and all those immigrants that want to come to this country legally. so this whole issue about what's been said about, you know, the white supremacist movement. >> to me, i find them disgusting. >> i understand that, but -- >> and their views disgusting.
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>> david duke, grand wizard of the ku klux klan, excellent speech by donald trump, to catch and release immigration laws and america first. that's david duke associated supporting, endorsing donald trump. that isn't the media tying david duke to the party. >> donald trump can't control what david duke tweets out. nobody can, but you know, i'm not going to sit here and tell you that there's zero support, zero and zero avowment of what he represents. let's be very, very clear about that. >> so let me ask you, when trump said and you just heard him there in trump's piece, to keep immigration levels within historical norms, what is he saying? >> because historically that would mean that you're going to preserve a white country if it changes and you have more people who are not white, and this
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country could become white unless you have the population shared within historical norms. is that a white supremacist thing to say? >> i don't know the details so you've got me on that one there, but what i will tell you is just looking at immigration flow into this country and how many we bring in every year and all of the different countries that people are coming from, i think one of the things that came out of donald trump's speech last night, one of the points they think is really important is these countries that do not want to accept their illegals back into their countries, and i think the number that donald trump talked about was 22 countries and so, i mean, if those 22 countries are getting any support from us financially either foreign, military sales and defense security cooperation or any other security and diplomatic funds, those are the kinds of things we ought to be looking at. >> i know you said this is sort of beyond your area and to keep the levels within historical
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norms? is there any way to interpret that other than to keep this country white? >> i don't know. i don't know. i think what you'd have to do is you have to look at how do we currently do it and currently bring immigrants into this country and take people through the legal process which i believe takes 18 months on average. that's what i believe. i think that that system is obviously not working and the number of individuals in this country that stay beyond their visa period that are here, again, illegally, we have to fix this problem. we have to have security in this country. if we don't, then we don't have a country. >> so would you have phrased this this way? >> i'm not going to -- i'm not going to, you know, sit here and debate you about the way the particular words were phrased. i don't -- i don't read it like that, and i listened to the speech last night, and i thought it was an excellent speech and i thought it was com pro hencive and there was meat to it that
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people can actually say, okay, here's how we'll approach this problem and how we'll prioritize and deal with illegals. >> last night, jacob monty -- >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry, because i mean, what's happening is people are trying to tie, you know, tie racism. this is the argument, they're trying to tie racism to donald trump and basically the entire campaign. they're making a mistake. that's a big, big mistake because it's so untrue when you look at -- >> when someone says they want to ban muslims, there's no racism in that at all? >> i don't think it's ban muslims and it's where the countries of origin from some of these because it's not a blanket because we have muslims trying to come into this country from a variety -- and we have a lot of them already here that are great. they are great americans and contributing, but i know that there are some that are coming
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from some countries and we know -- we know that the islamic state has said they are going to use the refugee flow into europe and the united states to infiltrate into those populations so we have to take that seriously and when we talk about vetting of some of these individuals coming out of syria or coming out of iraq and out of afghanistan, we have to take seriously the fact that they're going to do this because every time they've said that they'll do something, erin, they do it. general flynn, thank you very much. i appreciate your time tonight. next one-on-one with donald trump's controversial doctor. >> do you fully believe mr. trump is capable of being president physically? >> oh, absolutely. there's no question. and a major hurricane threatening the east coast. millions in its path. we're going to go live to florida. as a satisfied client, quicken loans has asked me to show you just how easy it is to secure financing for a dwelling like this. we need only answer a few quick and simple questions.
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tonight, one-on-one with dr. harold bornstein, trump's controversial doctor who admits he wrote the letter vouching for trump's help in five minutes. he wrote in part, if elected, mr. trump, i can state
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unequivocally will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. those words and the phrasing raised quite a few questions about the doctor himself. drew griffin is out front. >> good morning, dr. bornstein. >> we met donald trump's trump entering his office just as he's done for the last 35 years. >> how is it going? >> harold bornstein is a gastroenterologist who took over this practice from his father and finds his lifetime of serving patients being turned upside down because of one letter. >> can i ask you just a couple of questions? did you really write that letter? >> did i really write that letter? yeah. >> it was a letter donald trump prove r produced last december to prove he is healthy. a note being ripped apart by other doctors because of what they say strange wording and medically incorrect terms and its unprofessional conclusions. trump's test results were
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astonishingly excellent. if elected, mr. trump will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. with his unconventional looks and unconventional parent, he's been made out to be somewhat eccentric. >> the soft-spoken doctor finally agreed if we weren't intrusive or insulting, to take a few questions on the bench outside his office. warning us his wife would not be so hospitable. >> my wife will come back. she'll get angry. >> the press has tried to make you into being some kind of a lunatic or something. >> lunatic doesn't have credentials. the only thing i've wanted to do my life is practice with my father which i managed to do until his death in this office. >> and we've looked, believe me sir, we've looked at your record and we've looked for any signs of trouble and you've had a couple of medical malpractice
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suits and they were settled. >> but that's the normal. >> the fact is that is normal for a long-practicing doctor, a few malpractice suits from decades ago settled. he's never lost his license, has never faced criminal allegations ever and an expert cnn has talked with whatever his looks or his client's, dr. bornstein seems like a fully competent medical professional. >> are there any regrets you have getting involved in this crazy election? >> no. i take care of them the right way. >> and you fully -- whatever you wrote in that letter you fully believe mr. trump is capable of being president physically? >> oh, absolutely. there's no question. >> why did you write that letter? was it a joke? the words you chose, the way you wrote it? >> i was just rushed for time. i had people to see. >> there was no trump limo waiting outside, he says. he just wrote the letter for a
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patient that he's been seeing for the last 30 years. a patient his mother found. >> what do you make of being interjected into this election? >> i make the injection i grew up in. >> jamaica, new york, with my wife. they lived across the street and my mother found him as a patient as a member of the golf club and he stayed for 30 years. >> and then, as he warned, his wife arrived. >> you're done. >> stop it. >> you're on private property and we're going to call the police. i'm going to call the police. >> i appreciate you, doctor. i'm going to call the police right now. you're in private property. >> thank you, doctor. thank you very much. >> my goodness. >> yes, it wasn't the marcus ending, that's for sure, unconventional and you know, he's a physician. he's treated donald trump for 30 years. who better to tell us whether he's physically fit or not? >> he seemed rather soft-spoken,
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sweet and endearing in the interaction that i saw with you. >> that's exactly right. he didn't want to talk to us, and he didn't want to talk us to because he feared what happened at the end and he was afraid his wife would come in. she was parking the car when we did the interview and when she came in she made it very clear enough. >> it was a whole new look at him from what we saw before. thank you very much, drew. out front next, a monster hurricane about to slam into florida and then head up the east coast. we are live where the strong winds and heavy rains are picking up and the launchpad of cape canaveral, what went so wrong? did you know that chevrolet is the most awarded car company two years in a row? oh wow. i'm surprised! chevy's coming out with some nice stuff. the design is great. i love it. number one in my book. and chevy is going to give you 0% financing for 72 months. that's 6 years of no interest. that's awesome. i know, right? if you only had 72 hours to get a great deal on this car, what would you do? can we sign with you? the chevy 72 hour sale is here. this labor day, get 0% financing for 72 months
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hurricane to make landfall in florida in over a decade. parts of georgia and north carolina also under states of emergency. warnings extend as far north as new jersey. jennifer gray is out front from the florida panhandle tonight. jennifer, how bad is this going to get? >> reporter: well, the winds have really picked up, erin, and they will continue to do so over the next couple of hours and we are still hour away from landfall and the winds are extremely gusty. we've seen portions of tin roofs start to peel off. we've seen street signs start to go and so we have started to see some of those signs that you get when you have a tropical system. the very strong winds and we've also had the very heavy rain and not raining at the moment, but i just looked at the radar and any second now we are going to get in one of those downpours once again. the biggest problem here across where i am in apalachicola is a very vulnerable area and a lot of bays and intercoastal waterways could see five to nine
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feet of storm surge and that could be dangerous. that's why they tried to evacuate those areas and not only that, the tornado threat will remain throughout the overnight hours and the wind damage and all -- >> all right. it looks like we lost jennifer gray and as the storm hits florida, it will move up the coast and as we said, warnings as far north as northern new jersey. also in florida today, a massive explosion rocking cape canal ral. the gigantic fireball busting into the sky. it included the satellite that facebook was using. it was a series of explosions that went on and on for more than four minutes. the ceo of spaceex elon musk occurred while the rocket was being fuelled and we don't know the cause of the blast and is no one was injured. "out front" next, a group led by a flamboyant spiritual
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it was supposed to be nirvana, but turned out to be hell for some. tonight cnn goes inside
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buddhafield, a mysterious community that some members call a cult. kyung lau is out front. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: amid the idyllic beauty in the hawaiian island of oahu, behind a secluded home draped for privacy is connected to a spishive all group to which marty howard once belonged. >> i gave 25 years of my life and i woke up and i realized i was duped. ♪ ♪ >> howard's former group is the subject of the film airing on cnn called holy hell. it offers a decades-long look at a spiritual community that went from los angeles to austin, texas, and now thrives with more than 100 followers in hawaii led by an eccentric and charismatic guru who goes by multiple aliases. he is often seen throughout the documentary wearing nothing, but speedos. his face, former followers say, distorted by apparent plastic surgery and surrounded by
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adoring followers. >> we called it a cult. they would say we're not a cult. they would say they're just wakening up. >> without a doubt for you it is. >> oh, it's totally a cult. >> you can only comprehend what this means to finally, i have things to reveal to you in its purest form. >> followers saw a higher being, giving up their time and their relationship and their money, but the most damaging allegation in the film is that the leader coerced male followers into sexual relationships. >> he started running you through homosexual fantasy. >> chris johnston says he was in a five-year sexual relationship with the leader. >> you always say yes to the master because the master is the light, is the one who is bringing the experience of god here. >> he hasn't had any criminal charges filed against him that we could find. >> they're well aware how to stay in the law and when you tell the police the police only say we don't have any evidence
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that we can go on. >> is the group hiding? >> no. >> gentry petsel says he left the group a year ago, but remains close friends with the leader. petsel says he's afraid of the backlash from the film. he calls the leader a benevolent guru. >> he taught me how to love myself. he taught me how to love other people. he allowed pea to be loved by other people. >> in your personal experience today do you believe that he is a predator? >> no. not even close. >> people currently within the group maintain that the sexual relationships were consensual between adults. the leader did send us a written statement calling the film devastating and heartbreaking for him. he writes, quote, holy hell is not a documentary. rather, it is a work of fiction designed to create drama and persecution knowing that's what sells. if any of my actions is a catalyst for their disharmony, i am truly sorry. >> kyung lau, thank you very much. and the cnn film "holy hell"
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airs tonight at 9:00. thank you so much as always for joining us and you can watch oet outfront" any time, anywhere as always on cnn go. "ac 360" begins right now. good evening. thanks for joining us, the first hurricane to hit florida in nearly 11 years is a few hour away from making landfall. hurricane and flood warnings are up along the state's panhandle region. emergency preparations in effect in florida, george a the carolinas and the water is already riding. cnn's jennifer gray joins us from an an latcha cola where hermine. >> we are dry at the moment, but i just looked at the radar and the bottom will fall out in any moment and the rain will kick in here in apalachicola and as y