try to restore power because, yes, people decided to ride out the storm in some of these communities, some of these coastal, low-lying communities. some of them rode out a storm about 11 years ago. they said they weren't about it leave their home for this either. from the looks of it, no injuries. from some of the reports, the early reports we've gotten from officials here on the ground, it does seem much of the damage would be because of flooding, not necessarily because of the high winds. >> polo, how loud are those tree frogs near you? they're the sound track to your live shot there. >> reporter: it's incredible. it really is incredible and kind of eerie too. you had these howling winds we experienced a few hours ago. now replaced with the sound of these tree flogs that have been essentially flushed out on to the roadways. and occasionally, the sound of a chainsaw. we tried for about 2 1/2 hours to reach this community during the early morning hours.

we were unsuccessful because several of those roadways were flooded or covered with large trees. >> the tree frogs quieted down for a moment when our producer was yelling at them. >> they're very obedient. polo, thank you for all of that description and color. let's head west on florida's panhandle to apalachicola. that's where we find cnn's boris sanchez. what's the situation there, boris? >> reporter: hey, good morning, alisyn. a very different picture from where polo was a few miles east of here. when the hurricane made landfall at 1:30 a.m., packing winds up to 80 miles an hour t took out power to more than 100,000 people, but at least here in apalachico apalachicola, the damage appears to be minimal. i've spoken to several people in the area who say they haven't noticed much damage. one of them was a police officer. he told me this is about as smooth as it get when is you're dealing with a hurricane. there was a lot of concern about

the storm surge. as you can see, we're in front of a coastal area right now. fortunately when the storm hit, it was low tide, so the water didn't flow into neighborhoods as it had before. fortunately, it appears the only damage is some debris in the streets. as the sun comes up, we'll get a clearer picture of how extensive the damage was. the headline here in apalachicola is people were ready. obviously a big concern for officials, as you mentioned, was florida had not had a direct hit, landfall, from a hurricane since october 24th, 2005, more than ten years. so they were worried that perhaps people had forgotten how strong a category 1 storm could be or a lot of people that have moved to florida that had never experienced a hurricane before were now dealing with something new. fortunately, again, at least here in apalachicola, it appears the damage is minimal. we'll get a clearer picture as the day goes on. >> boris sanchez for us. thanks so much. at this point, more than 23

million people are under watches and warnings for tropical storm hermine. all the way up the east coast. so where exactly is the storm headed now? can we even tell? cnn meteorologist chad myers is with us to try to sort this out. hey, chad. >> after about 36 to 48, models start to diverge. we are getting a significant weather event in tampa this morning with training thunderstorms. part of tampa bay filling up with some water. a new storm surge there is possible. we're about five feet above. don't let your guard down. just because it's no longer a hurricane doesn't mean this storm is over. there will be tornadoes coming onshore in the carolinas, in parts of georgia, and still we are seeing that very heavy rainfall into tampa. there could be more flooding. parts of tampa have seen almost 20 inches of rain in the past 48 hours. now they're seeing more rain. here are the storms coming in to charleston, hilton head, savannah, and the like. we still have some water on the roadways.

we had polo sandoval in st. marks. he had to leave st. marks because they were getting nine feet of water. he had to back out of that city. now trying to get back into city to people that stayed, hopefully they protected themselves. it did hit in a lightly populated area of florida. probably the lightest coastal area of of florida. but tallahassee got pretty much a direct hit, john. >> all right. chad, stick around with us, if you can, for a minute and join me in questioning our next guest, director of national hurricane center, dr. rick knabb. i wonder if you can give us a sense of what this storm looks like right now and exactly where it is. >> well, it is inland over southern georgia. that's where the center of circulation is, but that's not the complete story on where the center of action is. there's still plenty of onshore flow here in the florida big bend area. water levels have not come completely down. we still have wind gusts at a

minimum to tropical storm force. that's starting to happen over on the atlantic side of florida. look at the rain starting to move into south carolina. heavy, heavy rainfall over much of the state of georgia, the southern half especially. so a lot of hazards at the coast and inland happening now and more to come as this heads up the east coast. >> dr. knabb, it's chad myers here. let's push this storm forward. let's move this story into the carolinas, offshore maybe for the weekend. all i've been saying is don't go in the ocean this weekend, it will be a dangerous place, right? >> very true. not only will the mediate coastline be a dangerous place this weekend, but some distance inland because of the size of this system that we expect it to be as the weekend unfolds. you could have gusty winds and heavy rain in some ib land areas. if you're in the eastern part of south carolina and north

carolina, the system itself is going to be moving over those areas. very heavy rainfall in coastal and some inland locations. when this gets offshore, we still think it has the potential to not only sit in generally the same area for a few days but it has some potential to reintensify in that area. all things considered equal, a large system, not moving very quickly, can be big problems in the ocean, not just for rip currents and waves, but we have the potential for a storm surge situation. >> doctor, let's pick up on that to stall.h the storm potential do you have a sense of where it goes after that, and what are you watching for? up here in the northeast, there's a lot of concern about a sandy scenario. >> yes, and every storm is different. we can't say this is going to be exactly like sandy or definitely not like sandy. this one will have its own personality and own behavior.

it might take quite a few days for it to finally move its way out into the northern atlantic. while it's sitting in this general area into early next week, the onshore flow is going to bring the potential for some at least minor coastal flooding in some areas. we could have a situation in which there is some more dangerous storm surge. any time you have onshore flow in this shape of coastline that's going to capture that fetch of wind blowing into the coastal areas, you can have perhaps an extended period of water rises at the coast. not only is it a bad beach day, it could be a dangerous situation that emergency managers in that region are going to have to watch very carefully. whatever happens over the next few days, do whatever your local officials tell you to do. >> doctor, we talk about the models ad nauseam. but this model behind me i forwarded to monday. talking about a block, a huge

block in the upper atmosphere that will not allow the storm to eject away, typically like storms do. that's where the models are being confused, is it not? >> well, we are seeing some consistency in our most reliable global models in the overall scenario of this slowing down after it exits the carolinas. in that sense, we have a fair amount of confidence this is not headed out to the sea. that's important to know because, again, something that is going to perhaps sit over the gulf stream, not moving very kwk -- quickly, perhaps get pretty large. we're seeing that the onshore flow picks up quickly in the hampton roads area and moving northward. it's going to be a combination of hazards we're dealing with in land areas, wind and water. flooding could happen at the immediate coastline, could happen farther inland due to the heavy rainfall that could last for a long time as this sits offshore. you don't have to have the center come over you to have bad

water and wind conditions on land. we have some confidence that we're going to have a pretty hazardous event here early next week. >> all right, doctor. let's bring it back to the now. the storm over georgia. where's your most immediate concern over the next 12 hours? >> i'm most concerned about the expansive area of heavy rain and the piling up of rainfall totals that could lead to flash flooding. the most frequent cause of loss of life in tropical storms has been inland flooding due to heavy rainfall. folks need to respect the fact that water hazards are very dangerous. stay off the roads in areas where the heavy rain is occurring. turn around, don't drown is a cliche, but it works. we got to save lives here. that's how people can die in this situation, far away from the coastline, where we're also going to have hazardous conditions where the tropical storm warnings are in effect all the way up into the carolinas. but i'm most worried about the water and people getting into trouble due to inland flooding. >> all right. great advice, dr. rick knabb.

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the breaking news this morning, you are looking at it. tropical storm hermine hitting the southeast right now. the storm made landfall as a hurricane overnight. more than 100,000 people are without power at this moment in and around tallahassee. more than 23 million people are under watches and warnings along the east coast. the center of hermine right now is over georgia. the winds about 70 miles per hour. the rain extremely heavy. we just talked to the national hurricane center. they're very concerned about the rainfall over georgia. we're going to keep our eye on this throughout the morning. all right. meanwhile, donald trump delivered a hard line immigration speech in arizona this week, laying out his plan, which he later described as a

softening. >> it is softening. look, we do it in a very humane way. we're going to see with the people that are in the country, obviously i want to get the gang members out, the drug peddlers out. i want to get the drug dealers out. we got a lot of people in this country you can't have. those people will get out. then we're going to make a decision at a later date once everything is stabilized. i think you're going to see there's really quite a bit of softening. >> but his plan does come with a steep price tag. how does he plan to pay for it? let's discuss it with cnn political commentator and trump supporter kayleigh. great to have both of you guys. happy friday. "washington post" has crunched the numbers many terms of what donald trump laid out in his ten-point plan. let me pull those up for you. we have a graphic in terms of how much each of these would cost. the border wall, which he says mexico would pay for, is $12.6 million. catch and release program, which

would mean giving a lot of money to local authorities to incarcerate people, is 14.4 billion. triple the i.c.e. deportation officers, 10. billion. bio metric entry exit, visa tracks, 6.1 billion. that adds up to more than 50 billion over five years. how does that get paid for? >> first of all, that's infinitely less than the cost of illegal immigration to our country every year. a conservative think tank was cited that it costs us $85 billion a year to have 11 million people living in our country, taking benefits from the government. so the bigger question is how is hillary going to pay for that. that aside, they're looking at really innovative ways of funding. life set, which is laura ingram's site, broke news saying they're looking at seizing assets from the cartels, raising fees at ports. this is mexico paying for the wall. taxing remittances, increasing visa fees for people who want to

come from mexico. there's a lot of ways they're looking at this. that's what you get with an innovative businessman like donald trump. >> okay. sounds like they have a plan. >> right, good one. no, they don't have a plan. they don't have a plan to make a plan. first off, when you're turning to an a.m. talk radio host for your policy shop, you're in deep doo-doo. trump hasn't put any of this out. >> that was from the campaign she was citing. >> donald trump hasn't said this. trump tower was built by undocumented workers from poland. it's been well reported. he's rehabbing the old post office in d.c. beautiful old building. he won the contract to fix that up. "the washington post" sent reporters over there, found lots of undocumented people working there. trump doesn't give a rip snort about immigration. it's all been a con. >> how is hillary going to pay for 85 billion a year? >> first of all, she's not paying for it. she has a real plan. >> what's the plan? >> if you want to be so tough on

the border, barack obama has deported more poem than anyone in american history. he's put more armed people on the border than anybody since woodrow wilson. we've lost 140,000 mexicans, according to pugh research. we're losing people. trump's wall will only slow down their departure. do you not get that? >> why did president obama release 20,000 criminal aliens into society last year? >> paul, those are real -- that's real. that stat is real. there were people who committed crimes who were released and not deported. >> yes, and they ought to be. 2.5 million were deported. >> paul, here's the thing. you call all hooey. it's working. the latest poll, let me show you -- >> yes, people always fall for a con. >> fox news poll shows at least trump softening. so not the plan, but the softening on immigration does

make people more likely to vote for him. 36% say that they like what he's saying. 25%, which is i guess what you would describe as the base, less likely. no difference, 27%. >> what has changed? he has softened. why? have the facts changed? >> yes, they have. >> really, in the last 75 days, the facts have changed? >> he's setting priorities. he wants to be humane in how he deals with this. his very last priority is dealing with people who remain in this country. his first priorities are building a wall, getting criminals out. how will hillary clinton help them? they're citizens too. >> of course. barack obama is going after -- he's actually setting the priorities. the republicans are trying to stop this. he has, i think, the most sensible plan, which is you start with gang bangers, not grandmothers. trump wants to deport everybody.

that's what he said. 11 million people. now he's down to only 6 million according to "the washington post." this would be the largest movement of humanity since the partition of india and the creation of pakistan in 1947. how are you going to move 6 million people and then pretend that you're targeting the bad guys? >> theory is very different than practice. barack obama can say all he wants on deporting criminals. look up the i.c.e. number. he's letting them out to society. >> how is trump going to move 6 million people? >> that is the question. 6 million is impractical. that number, everyone says, is impractical. even if he wants, and we accept he wants to, it's impossible. >> first are the criminals. he said we'll decide once we've implemented -- >> how is that different from obama? >> he's actually going to do things. barack obama can say all he wants that he's deporting criminals. >> i think we've reached an impasse. let's move on. we have other topics. let's move on top the new batch of e-mails, hillary clinton

e-mails, that have been released. there's one i want to call to your attention. paul, this is doug band, the head of the -- one of the top executives at the clinton foundation, trying to talk to huma abedin about a favor he needs. he says, need to get me, justy, who's justin, and j.d., someone else, diplomatic passports. we had them years ago, but they lapsed, and we didn't bother getting them. he's asking a favor of the state department. any problem? >> no. for what? >> they were going to north korea. >> oh, really? so this wasn't some business -- why were they going to north korea? >> to free the american hostages that were there. >> they should get a medal. they risk a lot to go into the most bizarre regime in the world. >> just checking. >> i think it's wonderful that they went to north korea and liberated these american journalists. >> yes, paid off massively. so why couldn't they get

diplomatic -- why couldn't bill clinton get a diplomatic passport? >> thank god they went. thank god they got though women free. that's a repressive, horrible regime. of course, thank god they had diplomatic passports so they had a little bit of protection. >> can you quibble with that logic? >> yes, i can, because diplomatic passports are not supposed to be given to members of a private foundation. we have laws. >> is that not a diplomatic mission? >> i know you don't want to enforce this law, but we have laws on the books. this is not how it's supposed to work. >> this was a diplomatic mission. can't we make an exception? >> i don't think so. the collation is a revolving door of favors and access for collation donors. the millionaires and billionaires, lebanese billionaire who wasn't allowed into this country, but gets favors from the united states. >> this one does seem to be -- if you're ever going to make an exception, let's get the americans home. >> it's a long line and a long pattern of favors and billions of dollars in access. this is another example. >> so those journalists should still be locked up in a north korean prison? >> no, you could have sent two other people.

>> how would they get in? the president of the united states asked a former president to do it. >> you made your cases. thank you both. let's get over to john. >> thank god for you, alisyn. up next, let's we're going to get the latest on tropical storm hermine. it's hitting the east coast right now, dumping huge amounts of rain in georgia as we speak. we have live reports from where it's hitting and the latest forecast because you're going to want to see that. these are live pictures from savannah, georgia. look at that airport tarmac just flooded there. that's coming up.

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and you won't have to guess when we'll turn up. because after all we should fit into your life. not the other way around. well, the southeast is getting slammed by tropical storm hermine. the storm was the first hurricane to hit florida in nearly 11 years, making landfall south of tallahassee but now of course moving. cnn's polo sandoval is live in st. marks, florida. how does it look at this hour? >> reporter: what's remarkable is just as fast as the water moved into st. marks, florida, it's beginning to move out. a little while ago, i was standing in about three feet of water. if you look down this street,

you can see how the water has receded. two reasons why this community saw some of the worst flooding from hermine so far. one is the storm actually made landfall not far from here during high tide. second, you had that storm surge. combine it all, you end up with four to five feet of water in some parts of this town. i can tell you now that people are finally taking a look at what's left behind for the first time, they're hopeful that the damage was quite limited because several people learned from what happened here 11 years ago. they took some of the mobile homes and travel trailers out of here. other homes have been rebuilt but on stilts. that's a couple reasons why folks don't expect damage will be too significant. but nonetheless, we do have to wait before crews are able to make their way. here they're going door to be door to check on folks. you look behind me, it'll will at least give you a preview of

what this storm is packing and what could potentially bring to the rest of some of the states in the south, john. >> a lot of standing water behind you, polo. we heard there's a concern that some of these trees could still topple over with the soil so drenched. thanks so much for being with us. want to go to boris sanchez. he's live in apalachicola. boris, what are you seeing? >> reporter: good morning, john. really good news here in apalachicola this morning. the damage from the storm was minimal. in the area that polo is, more than 100,000 people are without power. the storm, it kind of gives you an idea of how unpredictable hurricanes can be. the storm was forecast to come straight toward apalachicola. it ended up hitting a couple dozen miles southeast of here. they dodged a bullet here. many people still have power. there's some debris in the streets. for the most part, as a police officer told me who i spoke to this morning as he was on patrol, this is about as smooth as it gets for a hurricane.

it's really welcome news, especially because as governor rick scott mentioned yesterday, there's some concern over complacency as alisyn mentioned earlier. it had been about 11 years, since october 24th, 2005, that florida got a hurricane that made landfall. there was some concern that people perhaps had forgotten about how powerful a category 1 hurricane could be. also, a lot of people have moved to florida since then. they may not have, peer experie what that kind of storm could do. fortunately, it doesn't look like it was nearly as bad as it could have been. >> that's good. that's a big relief for us. thank you for that. so there are more than 23 million people under storm watches and warnings for this tropical storm hermine. where is the storm heading now and what impact will it have on your holiday weekend? let's bring in cnn meteorologist chad myers. he joins us. how's it looking at this hour, chad? >> well, where it's heading, alisyn, is to many, many more areas with more people. all of the sudden now we've moved through tallahassee with

100,000 people there. that was really the major city that took a hit. now we're moving into savannah, charleston, the cape hatteras area, all the way up north carolina, and for that matter, all the way up to sandy hook. here it goes. by wednesday and thursday of next week, we have no idea where it's going to be. this is the unknown that dr. knabb was talking about when it gets to the north. i'm going to take you to the why. there's the low. there's hermine. still going to have a name at this point in time. it runs into a high to the north. that high is going to say, not so fast, you can't go anywhere. you have to stay right there. so now i'm going to take you to wind gusts. this is the european model wind gusts. we go back and forth a little bit, but i think the european has done a good job so i'll go with it. saturday at 4:00 a.m., winds at cape hatteras, 45 to 60 miles an hour. it gets a little closer sunday night and into monday. all of the sudden, this storm is

still sitting in the same place. now i'm up to monday afternoon. monday night. it just continues. the rain is going to continue. if this thing is any closer, those winds will be much higher, the rainfalls will be much higher, and it is going to be a washout one way or the other. we don't need you in the water at all anywhere along the atlantic beaches this weekend. the rip currents will be maybe some kind of record. i don't know. it will be ugly out there with waves 10 to 15 feet maybe, water higher than it should be, and those rip currents just taking those san bad bars and just ripg them away. >> all right, chad. hopefully people are taking these warnings serious. the city of cedar key, the police chief joining us now. give us an idea how it looks around you. >> we're pretty well devastated. businesses that have not had any

substantial damage in 32 years, they're either destroyed or have major damage. >> pretty well devastated. what was it, the wind or the water? we heard there could be an enormous storm surge on your island. what happened overnight? >> storm surge got up to nine msl. they were predicting anywhere from that to 11. it got up to nine. >> up to nine feet of storm surge there right now. are people out assessing the damage? are people able to get out? >> well, the ones that left the island, we're not letting them back on the island. the ones that are on the isle, we're telling them to she woult down in place so we can get everything assessed. >> any reports of injuries or

anyone hurt, in trouble overnight? >> we did have a structure fire during the night, but no one was hurt in that. >> power where you are on the island, or is that just out? >> it's intermittent. there's certain areas that have it. most areas that do not have power is the result of trees falling down across the lines. >> what's your biggest need this morning, chief? >> wouldn't even know where to start. we've got law enforcement coming, so we're going to have -- it'll be secure. our biggest priority right now is getting d.o.t. to evaluate our bridges, make sure we can bring the equipment in to start our cleanup process. >> chief, you told me it's pretty well devastated this morning. we can't see pictures yet because we can't get cameras out

to where you are on cedar key. i wonder if you can describe for us what it looks like, what the downtown area is there, if these buildings are flooded out, if the structures remain standing. >> we have residents that have just the walls tore off the front of them. the major of the businesses on dock street don't have a front anymore. the water come through the back and went out the front, just tore everything to pieces. it's going to be a long healing process, i can tell you that. >> how long before you know that the worst is over? >> well, we're relying on you guys. we're hoping, in fact, the worst is over and it's just a clean up process now. >> all right. chief virgin sandlin on cedar key, who's looking out his window, telling us things pretty

well devastated there. they had a storm surge upwards of nine feet on that island. we'll get cameras out there. we want to get help out there too, if we can. we appreciate you being with us, chief. >> thank you. >> so of course, john, the storm is on the move. we're keeping an eye on where it is headed next. it affects everybody up and down the east coast. keep it here. chad myers will show you what the models are telling him. >> also, if you're wondering what donald trump will say to an african-american audience this weekend, we have a preview. his script has been leaked. that's next. (announcer vo) who says your desk phone always has to be at your desk? now, with one talk from verizon... hi, pete. i'm glad you called. (announcer vo) all your phones can work together on one number. you can move calls between phones, so conversations can go where you go. take your time. i'm not going anywhere. (announcer vo) and when you're not available, one talk helps find the right person who is. hi, john. (announcer vo) so wherever work takes you, you can put your customers first. introducing one talk-- another way verizon connects your business better. learn how at onetalk.com.

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all right. the breaking news this morning,

tropical storm hermine just drenching the southeast. the storm made landfall in florida as a hurricane a few hours ago. it brought damaging winds and torrential rain. these are live pictureses from savannah, georgia, right now. the storm is moving over georgia, bringing dangerous levels of rainfall. more than 100,000 people without power in florida. that number is going to grow as it moves across georgia and the carolinas. just moments ago we talked to the police chief in cedar key, florida. he told us his island pretty well devastated. we're just getting a sense of the damage that's been done. 23 million people long the east coast under watches and warnings this morning. the forecast uncertain and potentially dangerous. we'll have much more on this storm throughout the morning. alisyn? >> all right. donald trump is set to visit a black church in detroit tomorrow. he will address the crowd there after giving an interview to the only african-american owned christian tv station. however, the interviewers' questions and trump's prepared answers, were leaked to "the new

york times" and now we have them here. so joining us to discuss all of this is former detroit mayor dennis archer and reverend daryl scott. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. let's talk about what your expectations are for this weekend and donald trump's visit. "the new york times" did get their hands on copies of the questions that were submitted to donald trump in advance. that happens from time to time. not from journalists, but certainly friendly interviewers, as well as the answers his campaign prepared for him and what they'd like him to say to this black audience. let me just read you a couple and get your responses. here is one that everyone has been interested in. the reverend at the church will ask mr. trump, mr. trump, there is a perception that your administration is racist. with many of the african-american voters, their belief is that the republican party as a whole does not cater to african-american needs. that's just an excerpt. here's the answer that the campaign would like mr. trump to

say. well, the proof, as they say, will be in the pudding. coming into a community is meaningless unless we can offer an alternative to the horrible progressive agenda that's perpetuated a permanent underclass in america. mayor, let me start with you. how will those go over? >> i don't think it's going to make any difference whatsoever. if you consider that a donald trump from the outset of his campaign for the last 14, 18 months has not said anything whatsoever about doing anything for minorities or people who are in need, he only has addressed it just recently within the last week or two and in so doing, he has gone to communities, in the suburban communities, of several cities where a small percent of their population happens to be either african-american or hispanic. so he's not talked to the

community in which he would like to get votes from. he's not going to get votes. >> reverend scott, you're a donald trump supporter and also a friend of bishop wayne jackson, who will be conducting this interview this weekend. is this long overdue? why has it taken donald trump so long to address an african-american audience? >> well, actually, our engagement with donald trump began well over a year ago. we've been engaged with him. we had a meeting with him in new york last july, august of 2015. we met with him, several african-american leaders. from there, we met with him again in atlanta with over 50 african-american leaders. then we went back to new york with over 100 pastors to meet with donald trump, african-american. and in fact, terry arnold, the president of the impact network, was in attendance with us. so he's been on the schedule to make this appearance on to impact network. this is not something that was done as a reactionary movement.

we've been on schedule since last december. he's promised he would make this appearance on the impact network. now it has made it to the schedule. they sent him questions. it's standard operating procedure to receive preinterview questions. >> i mean, not from journalists, just so we're clear. obviously in a friendly audience, it's fine. i agree. there's nothing sketchy about getting questions. >> bishop wayne jackson not only a pastor, he happens to be the ceo of the largest african-american owned and operated gospel network in america. so he's acting in the role of a broadcaster rather than as a pastor in this interview. >> that's fine. sorry to interrupt you, reverend, but -- >> and the one thing you know about donald trump, can you imagine donald trump memorizing all that stuff you just read? thee are not the specific questions. these are the types of questions that he will be asked. this is the type of response that he will give. we know full well donald trump

is not going to memorize that long statement that was just made and remember it and say it on the air. >> so in other words, you see this as more of a guideline from his campaign rather than verbatim. >> yes, yes. >> okay. that's fair. let's look at another one. this is something else that comes up, obviously, with donald trump. bishop jackson will ask, are you a christian, and do you believe the bible is an inspired word of god? what his campaign would like him to say is, as i went through my life, things got busy with business, but my family kept me grounded to the truth and the word of god. i treasure my relationship with my family, and through them i have a strong faith enriched by an ever-wonderful god. mayor, are you comfortable with that answer? >> whatever his answer is going to be is going to be there. you go to the barbershops -- listen, rosa parks lived in the city of detroit. people are very in tune and have

a long memoryabo about what has been said and what has not been said. whatever he says at bishop wayne t. jackson's interview, it's just going to be there. he's not going to get the kind of response he wants. he's already hurt himself as it relates to the city of detroit and communities like ours throughout the united states for the reason that, for example, in the city of detroit, we've got a wonderful working relationship with our hispanic population. we all work together. the same with the middle eastern community. the metropolitan area of the city of detroit has the largest middle eastern population outside of the middle east itself. in my administration, for example, i had an imam who was served exceedingly well. so there's a lot of respect. you can't psay the kind of negative things mr. trump has said and come out in the last several weeks and assume somebody is going to roll over. >> reverend scott, how do you respond to that? there are people who feel it's too little, too late. just respond to that.

>> listen, detroit is in bad shape. now, i don't know what mayor archer is saying about his administration, but whatever he's saying, detroit is in bad shape. it's in bad shape economically. it's in bad shape as far as crime is concerned. so you have a candidate that's saying i want to the improve the condition of the cities economically, i want to prove the city as far as crime is concerned. you can't turn a deaf ear to that, whoever it is. >> reverend scott, i agree with you talking about not having -- >> hold on, hold on. [ overlapping speaking ] >> mayor, hold on. hold on one second, mr. mayor. >> you have someone to say i'm going to be pulling a position to help detroit in the areas it most needs help. he has a working relationship with the auto industry in order to stimulate the american auto industry. he wants to do that by curbing

these imports. >> mr. mayor, just respond to the fact that detroit is in big trouble. >> it is not in big trouble. he's not been here at all. >> hold on, reverend scott. >> since we've been out of bankruptcy, the city of detroit has been booming. you cannot bring a car to downtown detroit and find a place to lease a car. you cannot buy, rent, lease a condominium. >> so you're saying detroit is back and detroit doesn't need anymore help? are you saying detroit is all the way back? >> oh, no. >> okay, then it needs help. >> reverend scott, every city needs help. but you don't need the kind of help where someone says, when i get into office, wait until you see the kind of supreme court justice i'm going to appoint. our city doesn't need, in my view, america does not need

another mr. justice, anti-scalia. >> got it. gentlemen, thank you. we're out of time. >> that's the reason why he's going to lose and you're on wrong side. >> gentlemen, you've made your point. we understand there are very heated feelings on both sides. reverend scott, mayor archer, gentlemen, thank you. thank you very much. we'll be watching very closely what happens in detroit this weekend. thank you. let's get over to john. >> all right, alisyn. thanks so much. we're keeping a close eye on tropical storm hermine over georgia right now. you're looking at live pictures. plus, the hillary clinton you don't know. cnn getting up close and personal with the candidate. that's next. (vo) maybe it was here, when you hit 300,000 miles. or here, when you walked away without a scratch. maybe it was the day your baby came home. or maybe the day you realized your baby was not a baby anymore. every subaru is built to earn your trust.

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we want to get you up to date on this morning's breaking news. hermine breaking landfall on the florida panhandle with hurricane force just a few hours ago. the storm now weakened to a frorm, but more thtropical stor than 23 million people are still under watches and warnings at this hour. the center of hermine now over georgia. more than 100,000 customers without power in just the

tallahassee area. we'll keep you posted this morning. hillary clinton's been making headlines since her time as a student at wellesley college where she gave the first political speech of her life. now we are getting an in-depth look at her life in a two-hour documentary, "unfinished business -- the essential hillary clinton." >> there had been no tradition of a student speaker at wellesley. but the student body insisted that there be one and they chose hillary. >> reporter: she was scheduled to speak at commencement after the invited guests. republican senator edward brooke of massachusetts. >> and he gave a speech that was dismissive and pass troni patrot the anti-war movement, about what students were going through in the country. >> there was polite applause but mostly from our parents. then hillary spoke. >> and it is a great pleasure to present to this audience miss hillary rodham. >> she got up and discarded her

prepared and vetted remarks and spoke exte extell pranessly. >> we've had lots of empathy, we've had lots of sympathy but we feel for too long or leaders have viewed politics as the art of the possible and the challenge now is to practice politics as the art of making what appears to be impossible possible. >> reporter: while the administration was stricken by hillary's rebuttal, the students erupted in applause. >> i tell you what, we were ecstatic. we gave her a standing ovation. we were so proud of her. >> reporter: the following week, hillary rodham made national headlines for the very first time. >> it got tremendous attention. "life" magazine did a story on her and her political future. >> reporter: and her future appeared wide open. >> someone put a sheet of paper in the dorm predicting things about different people. they predicted i would marry a football player. the only thing written in about hillary was that she would be

the first female president of the united states. 1969. >> one of the voices you've heard there. that of cnn justice correspondent pamela brown. she is behind this documentary. she joins us right now. you spent a lot of time working on this. looking in to the hillary clinton that we don't know which has been a big part of this campaign. they've tried to introduce us to the other side of hillary clinton. what were you most surprised by? >> that's right. she's been in the public eye for so long, but at the same time, john, she is still someone of an enigma. we tried to peel back the layers and learn about her on personal side of things. i actually learned a lot about hillary clinton. you saw there in that clip, she was really a rising star even before she met bill clinton at yale law school. what struck me was that she was holding back when he asked her to marry -- when he asked her to marry him several times because it was so clear he wanted to be in politics and she told me, she wasn't sure if she wanted to be

in politics. that was actually making her hesitant to marry him initially which is so interesting. you look at her now, and she's now running for president. and then you learn things about -- little things, how she was as a roommate. one. our roommates told us she didn't make her bed. little things like this you think this detailed oriented policy wonk isn't making her bed. i asked her, too, what was the hardest moment when she was in the white house as first lady? was it the impeachment proceedings against her husband? white water? the failed health care initiative. she said none of those was the hardest moments. you'll have to tune in monday to see what it was. >> you had a chance to talk with chelsea clinton to get some of that mother/daughter relationship. i think we have a little bit of sound to play right now. >> what about your mom? what she was like when you would bring boys home? >> she already knew all about them. i was so close to my mom that she had already kind of asked me, even grilled me, kind of anything and everything she felt like she needed to know.

i remember one boy she brought and he was going through that stage where he was wearing a baseball cap the whole time. i finally told him, i said you have to take off your baseball cap. you're in the white house and we're going to have dinner and you cannot sit at the table with your baseball cap on. so it was just being a regular mom. >> i'm sure that's exactly what chelsea clinton wanted to discuss, the boy she brought home to see her mom right there. but it is interesting to hear them both talking about it. >> yeah, it is. you learn a lot about the special relationship that chelsea and hillary shared. hillary really went to great lengths to keep chelsea sheltered, to keep her grounded. the irony is she made chelsea make her bed every morning, made her clean her room. really tried to instill values in her to make sure that she grew up to be a good person, a normal person. >> i've asked this to the clinton campaign staff for a year-and-a-half now which is they keep on saying that we don't know the real hillary clinton. does she have any insights as to why? why we keep being told that we don't necessarily know what

makes her tick? >> you know, i asked her about that, and asks just poll numbers showing she was very popular as secretary of state and that her poll numbers have plummeted. of course the e-mail controversy didn't help. but she said, look, i take personal responsibility. clearly i'm not communicating effectively and that's something that i need to work on. >> really interesting. pamela brown, thanks so much. be sure to watch "unfinished business -- the essential hillary clinton." monday at 8:00 p.m. it is followed by "all business -- the essential donald trump." that's at 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. we are following a lot of news, so let's get right to it. good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." we begin with breaking news for you. you are looking at some live pictures as this tropical storm, hermine, is battering the southeast at this hour. these are live pictures from savannah's international

airport. storm making landfall just a few hours ago as a hurricane. that happens south of tallahassee, florida. 100,000 people are still without power this morning. >> this is the first hurricane to hit florida in more than a decade. that was just the beginning. 23 million people along the east coast are now under watches and warnings. we're going to begin our coverage in st. marks, florida. >> reporter: john, you have the storm surge and also high tide. those two things coupled together. they really did bring a significant amount of water into this community here, in to the city of st. marks, florida, which is one of the most closely populated areas to where hermine made landfall overnight. but you look over my shoulder, you can actually see how fast the water has actually receded. about a whole block in the last hour or so. so this is giving people an opportunity to actually go out d