died down a bit, but if you look behind me, we have an angry sea and ominous cloud here. so like you said, inland flooding is a major concern for north carolina right now. we were on the coastal road a little while ago and there was not too much flooding there, but police say to stay off the road if you can. if you come across standing water, don't try to drive through. the worst of the storm came through last night and it left more than 31,000 people without power and reports of a possible tornado touch down not too far from us in hatteras. so now officials are saying stay out of the ocean. this is labor day weekend. we have lots of storms and visitors here. we saw a couple of them walking on the beach, actually, they are still walking along the beach. they are very determined and optimistic folks. but officials say to stay out of the water. dangerous surf conditions and strong rip tides. back to you guys. >> even though it looks dangerous, i know people will still attempt to go in. sherisse, we appreciate it.

let's go to allison chinchar. hermine is expected to strengthen before it hits the northeast. if it does strengthen to hurricane forces, what does that mean for them? >> very strong winds. so we're talking, as it continues to go back out over open water, it's the warm water that fuels what it needs. notice the track, it kind of just goes back and forth because it has things blocking the position. but look at the winds, we'll go from 60 miles per hour to 75 miles per hour. so that is what we mean when we talk about the hurricane force winds. but also the flooding potential because of the rain is also going to be there. take a look at the cities, ocean city, maryland, your threat for the rain is going to start saturday morning. but the peak is going to be tonight through tomorrow morning. atlantic city, new jersey, your peak will be sunday morning through monday morning. new york city, we're talking about the peak being sunday night into monday night, which unfortunately is the worst timing possible for the holiday weekend. but why is it going to strengthen? let's take a look at that. so we've got the particular storm that you can see down

beneath me. it's going to enter into that very warm gulf waters. the gulf stream. not the gulf of mexico but the stream with the lower 80s. that's fuel for this particular storm. the eyewall with the warm rising creates extra convection in the storm and will allow for the storm to strengthen a little bit over the coming days. that's going to be key because as it continues to make its way north, the strengthening could impact places from nantucket, we're talking cape cod, new york city, all the way up and down the new jersey coast. so certainly, victor and christi, something to keep an eye on over the coming days. >> appreciate it, allison chinchar. thank you. well, in just a few hours donald trump will be at a black church in detroit attending service. and then participating in a q&a tape with the pastor of that church.

this is an effort to increase black support. and here are the latest numbers, donald trump here from the suffolk university usa today poll had 2% in the bottom of the four-way race among african-american voters. on the democratic side, hillary clinton is using the "i do not recall" defense. that's what she told the fbi 39 times during an interview about her use of a private e-mail server. donald trump, of course, quick to pounce on this. watch. >> when you look at what they've done in respect to the fbi accounts where she didn't know what the letter "c" was. unless she's not an intelligent person, that's a total lie. >> ryan noble is following this story for us. what else are we learning from the recent document release? >> reporter: well, victor, among the many things these notes reveal is that there were attempts to hack into hillary clinton's private e-mail server, but none of the attacks were successful.

the fbi conducted a forensic analysis of clinton's server and certain devices they had access to, but there was as many as 13 different devices clinton used that they wanted to examine. but that clinton's law firm did not produce. now, as a result, the investigators wrote they were unable to, quote, conclusively determine whether or not classified information had been compromised. however, some of the people who clinton was in communication with including her long-time friend sidney blumenthal were hacked. and those hackers got access to material that was sent from clinton's server. but they never got access to the server itself. now a big part of what the newly released documents reveal is that clinton did not recommend or recollect many of the key points of information that these investigators were in search of, including how much she knew about how to handle classified information. one note reads, quote, clinton could not recall any briefing or training by state related to the handling of classified

information. but it did seem that clinton herself was at least somewhat concerned that her e-mail could be compromised. the report reads that clinton was, quote, worried someone was hacking into her e-mail given that she had received an e-mail from a known associate containing a link to a website with pornographic material. now in addition to the concern about a potential hack, clinton also told investigators that she did not know what the letter "c" on certain correspondence meant. you heard donald trump talking about that. clinton thought it was denoting an alphabetical order of the information. that "c" means confidential. that is the lowest level of classification of the top of the e-mail in question that did read confidential which clinton acknowledged. now while the new report did not reveal any new major revelations, they do keep the conversation of clinton's private e-mail server in the news and donald trump and his campaign did not miss the opportunity to pounce. he said in a statement that

clinton's answers to the fbi, quote, defy belief. victor? >> brian nobles for us in washington, thank you so much. the question now, what impact will this have on clinton's campaign? we'll talk to both trump and clinton supporters after the break. also, donald trump makes his pitch to african-american voters this morning by doing something he has not done yet during this campaign season. visiting a black church, he's polling with black voters at 1% or 2% this morning, but that is not stopping one of trump's favorite african-american voters from coming out from the stump to advocate for him. mark burns, you see him here, he helped facilitate trump's meeting this morning with wayne jackson and speaking at that church. but he's probably best known for this, this tweet, which he has since taken down and apologized for, showing a cartoon of hillary clinton in black face. well, now there are questions about his past, his bio that he

was in the army reserves and a fraternity, graduated from college. so when i sat down with him this week, i asked him about the claims. and things got a bit uncomfortable. watch. did you attend north korean university? >> i did attend north korean university? >> did you graduate? >> no. >> again, the bio on your website claims that you earned a bachelor of science degree. did you make that claim? >> i actually, just a moment ago, as we opened up this, first of all, i said we were off the record. >> i didn't agree with that. >> but i did. >> we're still rolling, i'm still asking you questions on the record. >> so later this hour you'll see the entire interview. it ended with pastor burns walking out of the interview and drove away from the church leaving us sitting there. and you're going to hear his new statement out late yesterday about his bio which he now says

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the report, it certainly confirmed the findings of fbi director james comey, but it doesn't reveal anything criminal by any means, jeffrey, so i think the question is, does this matter in the general election? >> sure. because it's a question of judgment. and let's remember, this is a candidate who is advertising her preparedness and her experience to be president. and here we have her performance as secretary of state, which she number one put all of the stuff on a private server, which was unheard of. and number two, you know, badly, badly misunderstood classification procedures as secretary of state. i mean, this is one of two things. as we look back on cnn last night at watergate, one of the things democrats of the day said, that richard nixon was either lying or was incompetent. well, eventually we found out he wasn't telling the truth. and that is what is going on

here. >> and that sounds very much like a sound bite that donald trump gave that hillary clinton is, i think that's what you're referring to in the last 24 hours here. so reince priebus called this a devastating release of hillary clinton's judgment and honesty. that's hitting her in a spot where she's vulnerable with the electorate. could this cost her votes? well, actually, christi, because it is from reince priebus, you can't overreact or take it too serious. he's the republican national chair. the bigger point is simply this, that in fact when you look at this one mistake that hillary clinton admitted in dollars and owned up to over her entire career of public service, versus donald trump's foreign policy agenda, which he publicly advocates allowing north korea and saudi arabia to have nuclear weapons. he advocates dismantling nato, being that he didn't know russia

was in crimea, qulowhen you ana his foreign policy, you can see why many are lining up to endorse hillary clinton. there were 20 one to four-star generals behind hillary clinton because she'll keep us safe and push back on fighting isis. that's the perspective to have here. >> but that does not alleviate the fact that all the polls show, honesty and trustworthiness is something that she falls very short with. there's a big deficit there. i want to listen to something -- >> christi, if i can make a point. >> go ahead. >> she has that deficit and so does donald trump. but 65% of america feels like he's not fit to be president. that's the defining issue. >> let's listen to hillary clinton here who said last year there was nothing classify in her e-mails. >> there is no classified

material. so i am certainly well aware of the classification requirements. and did not send classified material. >> why do you think this controversy still has life? because the explanation seems so hard to define an explanation here? or is it because opponents will not let it go, jeffrey? >> well, it's the nature of the controversy itself. i mean, this is not going to go away all the way through to election. and for that matter, it will probably hang around after the election. i mean, this is about her performance in office as secretary of state as exhibited in these e-mails. and every few days, you know, something drip-drabs out. every single time it comes back to a question of her judgment. and we can talk about it in the larger sense. >> but in a sense donald trump's

judgment has come into play as well. particularly this week on immigration, seeming to give two different speeches in two different places. and looking as though he is two different men. do we have that sound here? the speech he gave in mexico, the speech he gave in phoenix. some people say, a lot of people looking at that and saying at the beginning of the day, he looked very presidential in mexico. he had it very solidly put together and then things changed by the end of the day. let's look. >> we did discuss the wall, we didn't discuss payment of the wall. that will be for a later date. mexico will pay for the wall. period. they don't know it yet but they're going to pay for it. there is crime, as you know, there's a lot of crime and there are a lot of problems. but i think together we'll solve those problems. zero tolerance for criminal aliens! zero! zero! >> okay, so jeffrey, this is on

top of a report that's out in "the new york times" this morning talking about tensions that have grown, they say, between donald trump's campaign and the rnc. they are reporting that their trump aides have used contemptuous language against rnc chair mr. priebus, that the rnc in return, there have been complaints about half-hazard nature of mr. trump's operation. can he win without them? >> well, first of all, reince priebus is solidly behind donald trump. >> not according to this report. there's a big rift. >> i just spoke to someone here in pennsylvania on the ground who was telling me in detail about the organization right here. and all the door knocking and phoning that is going on in this very systemized -- i have to believe what i'm seeing right near the middle of pennsylvania, which is a key state.

so i don't have any worry about that. as to the other, i don't see any contradictions there. i mean, what he's saying is different versions of the same thing. both in mexico and here in america. >> i want to give you a chance to respond, robert. >> there's a dramatic contradiction. first of all, donald trump lied about the meeting with the president of mexico when he said the cost of the wall was not brought up. secondly, you saw donald trump give a good photo op when he was with the president of mexico. then i guess the tranquilizers wore off and you saw him go back to the same kind of hate mongering and racist rhetoric that is, in fact, alienating him from mainstream republicans. it is worth noting that when donald trump has been denounced, divisive with rhetoric, there's not one republican leader standing up to defend him. not paul ryan, the speaker of the house, not mitch mcconnell. you see the enormous deficit he has in the polls around these points. so it's not just about two donald trumps at stake here,

you're dealing with a danger and that is why you see him polling so far in terms of the temperament and leadership to be president. >> no doubt about it, i think we can all agree this is an election season like no other that we have ever seen. and both of the candidates having unfavorables well above half on each side of the aisle. so we're going to keep watching to see what happens. robert zimmerman, jeffrey lord, thank you for being here. thank you. >> thank you, christi. we'll turn now to this debate over the national anthem and the protests we're seeing from colin kaepernick still refusing to stand up. it's taking a turn that i would say some people did not expect. coy wire has the latest on that. >> good morning, victor. the nfl and the 49ers stood by the quarterback's right to protest, but a possible police b boycott, could that force them to re-examine this issue? we'll talk about that on "new day."

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are unhappy with his actions to include the union. according to the san francisco station kntv, union members sent a letter to the 49ers saying that the team doesn't take action against kaepernick, quote, it could result in police officers choosing not to work at your facilities, unquote. that means at games, at the stadium, on game day. now cnn reached out to the union and the police department, the 49ers told us they support kaepernick recognizing the individuals right to participate in "the national anthem" or not. but they may have to address this if they feel the safety of the fans could be compromised on game day. kaepernick is getting a lot of buzz about the socks he's been wearing, socks with pigs on them wearing police officer hats. and now he said he didn't mean the bash all police officers with this stan. just rogue cops as he called them. this combined with that refusal to stand during the national anthem led the president of santa clara police officers

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in about an hour, donald trump is going to do what some of his critics said he should have done a long time ago. he's serious about reaching out to black voters. >> he's attending a worship service at an african-american service in detroit. he held a roundtable with african-american business leaders in philadelphia yesterday. the campaign says he'll address the congregation but the church hasn't confirmed that he will do so, so there is a little bit of a question right now as to what his role will be this morning in detroit. >> yeah, so there is that. and following the service trump

will sit down for a taped interview with bishop wayne t. jackson for the impact television network. the man who helped to arange that meeting is pastor mark burns, one of trump's key surrogates as the candidate tries to reach out to african-american voters. burns also spoke at the republican convention. but most recently he made news for posting the tweet here of hillary clinton, a cartoon in black face, which he later took down. he apologized for that. well, his questions arose about him and his background. burns agreed to sit down with us for an on the record, on camera interview. but soon he wanted to take the conversation off the record. >> we need a warrior! we need a champion! we need a winner! and that is donald trump! >> he's the small town preacher who has become a surrogate for donald trump's presidency. >> the last thing i want to do is draw attention from donald trump's presidency.

>> reporter: pastor mark burns who speaks at trump rallies and was a speaker at the republican national convention. >> from the great state of south carolina -- >> but before the campaign he was virtually unknown. >> i think donald trump is a great judge of character. you would think he would choose the greatest names, but donald trump values character more than popularity or a name. and i think that falls under character. >> pastor burns has a small operation. the church just a few folding chairs, tables and cameras for his tell televangelism. burns says former campaign manager cory lewandowski asked him to speak and he's been a

favorite ever since. >> so they looked him up and he had web pages up. and one of the claims was that he was a member of the camp outside. >> david is a member of the proud african-american fraternity and first saw the claim in pastor burns' bio on the church's website. he captured the screen grab in july just days after burns spoke at the rnc. >> apparently mark burns, john mark burns or any variation thereof in the fraternity effort. >> david says he contacted pastor burns. soon after david says the web page disappeared. cnn called kappa headquarters and there was no record of it. so when we sat down with burns, we asked about that. >> i did, without question, say that i had crossed, not crossed but had started the process of

being a part of that organizati organization. >> is that the bio from your websi website? >> it is, but that has been added. i'm pretty -- i will own up to mistakes that i have made with my tweet, but in this case -- >> so this is not from your page. >> no, this is from my page. but what i'm saying is, obviously this has been manipulated or either hacked or added. >> cnn asked the site's host about the possibility that someone could have tampered with the church's website. the company tells cnn there is no evidence of a hack. and cnn obtained the pastor's full bio from the church's website through an internet archive. you also claim that you served six years in the army reserves. is that accurate? >> yes, it is. >> okay. we called the army and they said that you had no active army or active service.

>> no, i was not part of that -- >> okay, i just asked you about army reserves. you in the bio claim six years in the army reserves. >> which is -- it is reserves. it is the army of south carolina is reserves. >> in the statement the u.s. army said burns served in the south carolina national guard from 2001 to 2005, was discharged in 2008. he has no active army or army reserve service time. and do you attend north korean university? >> i did attend north korean university. >> did you gradual wait? >> no. >> in fact, the university tells cnn he was here one semester. again, the bio on your website claims that you earned a bachelor of science degree. did you make that claim? >> i asked you just a moment ago as we opened up this, first of all, i said we were off the record. >> i didn't agree with that. >> yeah, but i did.

>> we're still rolling and i'm still asking you questions on the record. >> i'm off the record. >> did you make that claim that you graduated? >> i'm off the record because i don't think this is not fair at all. this is not what -- i thought we were doing a profile, and all of a sudden you are here to try to destroy my character. >> i'm not coming here to destroy your character. these are claims that were made on your website that was live while you were speaking at the republican national convention. my question is, are those claims accurate? >> i understand this is what media does. and i understand that when you find someone that is speaking out their heart and speaking out their desire to bring people together and to get past the political correctness of society, that the job of that investigative juournalist is to try to destroy the character of the individual. what i'm saying is this, in reference to my website, if there's inaccurate information

on there that can easily be manipulated by other people, and it can be manipulated by hackers, people can do and say and create whatever they want to create. >> again, the website's host says there's no evidence of a hack. >> i don't feel comfortable at all. this is not -- >> you also claim to be studying at the anderson theological center of seminary. >> yes, i did. >> currently working on his master of theology and pastor of theology according to the church's website. we called them, you're not enrolled there. you enroll in 2008 and never advance. >> right, but do you know how old this is? i think there's an updated profile on the website. >> so it old or is it tampered? >> these are old information, this is extremely old information. >> seconds later -- >> this is a -- thank you so much. i really appreciate you coming. you just take this.

>> pastor burns walked out leaving us in his church. in fact, he got into his car and drove off. you heard the pastor there blame a hack, blame photo shopping, blaming the media. now he's released this statement, as a young man starting my church in greenville, south carolina, i overstated several details of my biography because i was worried i wouldn't be taken seriously as a new pastor. this was wrong, i wasn't truthful then and have to take responsibilities for my actions. since that time i should have taken steps to correct any misrepresentations of my background. we all make mistakes and i hope the measure of my character and quality of my work speak for the kind of person that i am. he goes on to say this, i do want to set the record straight about why this attack is happening. because i'm a black man supporting donald trump for president. for too long african-american votes have been taken for granted by democratic politicians and enough is enough. it's a shame that the political insiders and the media choose to attack me because i'm not going

to stay silent about hillary clint clinton's pandering to our community. instead, i'm going to tell people about the option to represent a positive vision to unify our country. that's why i have and will continue to tirelessly support mr. trump. we have questions into the trump campaign about the vetting process but we don't have any answers just yet. breaking news just into cnn, a very strong earthquake just minutes ago felt in at least three states, texas, oklahoma, kansas, want to go state to cnn's meteorologist allison chincar. >> the information we have from the usgs is a 5.6 earthquake happened in tulsa, oklahoma. that's where the epicenter was located. relatively shallow, we're talking 6.6 kilometers deep, which in the overall scale is shallow, that allows for areas

far from the epicenter to feel the earthquake. we know folks as far as dallas have been able to feel this earthquake. even though you think, 5.6 may not seem like that high of a number, it is for this region. now, according to the usgs, this is the largest earthquake that took place in 1952 at a 5.5. so this 5.6 is going to be -- if it holds at that number, will end up being the strongest earthquake in oklahoma history, recorded history. right now 75 miles northeast of oklahoma city, oklahoma and at a depth of 6.6 kilometers, we talked about how being that shallow it allows for it to travel a pretty good distance including dallas where we have a gentleman who was awoken from his bed able to feel this earthquake. so explain to us what we're feeling this morning. >> yes, i heard the walls of my

condo, which is in a 26-story high-rise on main street start to crackle a little bit, kind of like it would in a storm or strong wind. and then the next thing i felt the bed just move back and forth. it was a mild moving back and forth. and then it was three, four or five times in secession after that. i was like, this is an earthquake. so immediately i looked out the window and could see the tower next to me, which is the tower and lights green at night here in dallas, and the glass on the side, i could see that shaking a little bit and this has to be an earthquake. >> all right. folks, thank you so much. that was leo davis joining us from dallas to explain this morning how he's woken up by this earthquake. christi, just 5.6 magnitude earthquake in oklahoma. as we mentioned, if it holds at that number, it will end up being the largest earthquake in oklahoma recorded history. we'll be sure to give you more updates as they become available. >> definitely we are getting more information from people in

that area to make sure there are no injuries and no downed buildings. thank you so much, allison. we appreciate it. we'll be right back. ♪

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back to discuss the interview with pastor mark burns, we have jeffrey lord with us who is a donald trump supporter. jeffrey, i want to start with you. pastor burns has been one of the more perfect supporters for donald trump.

and i want to show you an exchange that happened just a few weeks ago on brooke baldwin's show. watch. >> i have said it across this country that there are no white people. >> when it comes to the democratic party -- >> okay. okay. on that, on that -- >> all right, the first portion you saw was a mistake. but here in this exchange you heard pastor burns say she's a liar, she's a liar, speaking about hillary clinton. can he still effectively prosecute that case considering he lied for years about his experience and lied to me during that interview? >> you're asking me, victor? >> yes. >> victor, in all candor, i don't think that -- and no offense to pastor burns, but just in general, this election is between hillary clinton and donald trump. and you've got all sorts of people all over the place on

both sides, but the candidates are always the focus. and you can go through, i mean, for instance, we're not talking this morning about al sharpton still not paying his taxes, which i read somewhere this summer, in "the daily caller," i think -- >> i don't know that al sharpton is an advocate for any campaign. this is a man who spoke on behalf of his events. >> hillary clinton goes hand in hand to ask for al sharpton's support. he's a big player in democratic party politics. but no one seems to care. i mean, i don't think frankly people are going to care about what pastor burns did or did not do. and i will say this, though, in his defense as a conservative black man, just like clarence thomas, just like i have a number of friends who are black and conservative, they all come under attack because they asked to leaf the plantation. >> okay. he does say he's getting this

because he's a black man supporting donald trump. mark, to you. >> well, first, jeffrey has done everything to answer the question, does he have the moral authority to continue to stump for donald trump when he called hillary clinton a liar. his entire resumé seems to be falsi falsified. the actual answer to the question is no. jeffrey is right, maybe people won't care. that's not the issue. al sharpton is not a hillary clinton surrogate and who hillary clinton has not had speak for her at the in theic national convention, democratic national convention. i have dvr, she has not asked him to go there. >> did she ask for his support? >> it's another thing to have someone act as a surrogate for you. that speaks for association. i guarantee if hillary clinton had standing next to her a

pastor who was somehow of questionable character or background, donald trump's campaign would act on it and criticize it, as they should. eight years ago there's another pastor jeremiah wright who stood next to barack obama. the right criticized him because of the record. look at who you're standing next to. donald trump is open to the same scrutiny. >> he was a pastor for 20 years. there is a bit of a difference. >> we have to wrap it here and get to the breaking news on this earthquake coming out of oklahoma. i know you both understand, i need to keep this tight. mark montelle, jeffrey lord. thank you. we'll take a quick break and go back to the breaking news. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all, my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be.

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