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we didn't want jacob's story to end this way. in this moment of pain and shock, we go back to the beginning. the wetterlings has a choice to walk into bitterness and anger or to walk into a light of hope. their choice changed the world. i'm poppy harlow in new york. i'll see you back here tomorrow. good night. okay. i am rolling. >> my name is will. i always wanted to know why am i here. what is the point. how do i live a meaningful life.
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i wanted to know everything. hasn't everybody asked themselves these questions? the truth about the mystery of the universe. i went to my great grandmother's open casket when i was 4 and became fascinated by the concept of life and death. i was raised catholic. i was even an altar boy. i was quite fascinated by all of it. >> jesus carries the cross. they're nailing him to the cross. they're all bloody. >> i started making movies when i was a kid. i found an 8 millimeter camera. at first they were just fun and blowing things up.
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♪ i can't stop this feeling deep inside of me ♪ ♪ you just don't realize what you do to me when you hold me in your arms so tight ♪ ♪ you let me know everything's all right ♪ ♪ i'm hooked on a feeling it was the middle of the 80s and the uppy generation. we were all searching for something different. this was not my path. i got accepted into grad school. i was going to get a ph.d. in child psychology. i had my whole life planned out. then i met some people that were living by the heart and hiking through the forest at night. oh, my god. i want me some of that.
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>> some of them were the smartest, most beautiful people i ever met in my life. >> we started it. this is what we wanted. it is our little eutopia in the middle of a big giant city. >> your soul was being fed with love and with inspiration and awe. >> i wanted everybody, everybody in the world to experience this. >> i can remember feeling so fulfi fulfilled. >> i said, dad, i want to give my life to god. and he was on the next flight out there to come get me. >> the people that were there were looking for spirituality, but all of a sudden you had a built in family. >> i fell into a group of the most amazing people i had ever met. it was my sister amy who first told me about her friends who called themselves the
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buddhafield. >> people ask me all the time how did you end up there. i was raised in catholic school, and i always had a lot of questions for the nuns. when i would go home and tell my mom what i asked, she would say you can't ask them that. i'm like, no, i want to know. >> i wanted to know myself beyond the superficiality of the world i was living in. life can't just be this thing where you just live and work and die. there's got to be something more. >> i grew up with a family of really expressive, artistic hippie type characters. i also had no guidance growing up. >> living in chicago where i grew up in the streets, it was very violent. when it came to the buddhafield, not really knowing what real love was, that's what i started to feel like really deeply. >> i always had this yearning to know really why we're here.
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>> i grew up with a very fundamentalist, fire and brimstone church with the fear of god and all. >> my mom kicked me out of the house when i was 15, so yeah, i was looking for stability. when i came to the group, it felt like, okay, this is going to be for life. it was like a marriage. >> i grew up with a real problem with authority. major authority problem. really hasn't changed much, actually, i have to tell you truthfully. >> when i was very, very young i wanted to be a scientist, then i wanted to be an artist. there was always a running theme through it that i wanted to be enlightened. >> i felt very lost and i felt empty, like there was something missing. >> as a child, there was a lot of stuff going on in my family. suicide attempts every couple months, a lot of abuse. >> i wanted to be a politician. >> i wanted freedom. i wanted freedom somehow from this self.
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>> if you think of tomorrow, you're unhappy. if you think of the past, you can become miserable. happiness is wherever you are. wherever you are is where happiness is. >> he spoke as if he had gone into the cosmos and come back and was here to tell us about it and take us there. >> have you made contact with the eternal or are you still obsessed with the momentary? when are you going to wake up? when are you going to realize what you're doing with this precious energy, with this precious opportunity? >> i wanted a mentor. i wanted somebody who was going to guide me. they do this in india all the time. there's gurus there. this is just the modern day version of that in america. ♪
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>> he was contemporary. he wasn't some little old man with a gray beard sitting in a dodie. he was wearing speedos and ray-bans, and he was dancing and doing contemporary music. >> he spoke four or five languages. he was amazingly humorous, witty. >> very playful like a child. he could do something like oh, my god, i can't believe you just did that. he could dance. he was artistic. he was all those things we all wanted to be. >> he was unlike anyone i had ever met before. he encouraged me to drop all my ideas of what i thought i was supposed to be. >> i finally felt like i was on the right path. i attended every meeting, every group outing we would take, and even went to michel's weekly individual hypnotherapy sessions called cleansings. i really felt like something important was happening in my life.
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>> namaste. >> namaste. >> look who arrived. >> what's holy company doing? >> i really fell in love with other people first. >> what are you doing? >> we're not doing anything. >> we were together 24/7. we lived together, we ate together, played together. everybody that i knew was in the buddhafield. my circle, my family, was the buddhafield. >> i lived in a house with about eight people. it was warm and safe. >> nobody ever went hungry. nobody was ever going to be homeless. you always had a place. >> everyone was supporting each other with helping with food, helping with cooking. it was so idyllic.
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>> i didn't drink caffeine. i didn't drink a glass of wine. i mean, i can't imagine living any cleaner. >> it was really advocated that we exercise and take care of ourselves. this was a lifestyle. >> we lived in houses. we paid our own rent. we had jobs. >> i did personal training. i owned my own business. i was very successful with money. >> if i had a job obviously my money went toward my rent, my groceries but whatever needed to be bought or built, we all pitched in and paid for it. >> by the time i was in my late 20s i had taken on the role of the group's de facto filmmaker. >> that would be your first commitment, to dedicate your life to certain knowing and your spiritual master's work on this
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earth. >> my films were like a way of giving back to the group. they were the perfect medium for sharing michel's teachings. >> we used to joke even in the early days, if this was a cult, at least it was a really good cult. >> one of the first people i wanted to help bring into the group was my middle sister, lori. >> my brother and sister said you have to come up here. it's so beautiful. you will get all the healing you need and heal from your eating disorder and heal from your rape trauma. i knew i needed healing. i mean, i knew i was messed up. that's something i have always known about myself. >> we supported will, amy, and lori to do whatever it is they wanted to do. if they needed more answers, my husband and i thought we had worked to give them those answers but apparently we didn't do enough. they needed something that they weren't getting.
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>> something happened. something deep in me in that moment said i will never leave this. >> one day, i asked someone to ask if there was anything i could do for him. it sounds so small. he said, you can make me a fruit salad every morning. so i would go to the store and i would buy the most beautiful fruit i could find and i started carving buddhas out of papaya. i carved the last supper out of fruit. i would spend hours. and it was within my being that i was making a fruit salad for god. one day i came home and my roommate, who was very closely serving the master was taking one of my fruit salads and sliding it into a blender and making a smoothie. i was just like -- and i kept making those fruit salads even though i knew he wasn't eating them, because there was no other way that i could give him
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anything. ♪ >> shakti is the transference of energy from the master to the disciple. we would just leave there so blissed out and high without drugs. >> my body started convulsing and all of these kinds of things kind of started happening. >> when he touched me, i was no longer myself. >> there was a profound experience where i felt a current, where i felt like there's electricity happening. and i see this sort of like flashing light, like lightning, sound so loud like a jet airplane. >> it's pretty addictive.
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>> i was experiencing an lsd-like state. colors were moving around him. there was a phenomenon attached to this now. it's not just these good feelings i'm having. now there's this like flashing light happening inside me. >> more than shakti there was a greater experience that only michel could reveal to us. it was the ultimate step we needed to take us to enlightenment. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, and you're talking to your doctor about your medication... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage.
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disciple arjuna. >> i was like yes. that resonated with me. i was like, i knew, i knew it was possible. >> the knowing was the realization of being able to see and hear and taste god. >> you can feenl -- finally comprehend what it means to finally have god be revealed to you in his purest form, finally. >> that was something that i felt like i had been looking for my entire life up to that point. i had gone to school, i had a degree, i had a great job, i was engaged, and yet when this happened, it was like all of that meant nothing. >> so who wants to ask for the knowing today?
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>> one of the things that made the knowing so intriguing was that not everyone was going to be able to receive it. >> i wanted what i thought he had. i wanted the knowing. i wanted this promise of enlightenment. >> a ceremony would occur over the course of several days, where individuals were able to ask if they were ready for the knowing. those chosen would receive the experience of god. >> he said you have to give everything up and i will know, because you will be asked before you receive this experience. i'll know if you're telling the truth or not. i was like i better really do some soul searching. >> as devoted as i was, i was still nervous that he wouldn't think i was ready.
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one night he spoke to me alone. he had something he needed to tell me. he said he had been up all night fighting with god, fighting for my life. i was fated to have a terrible accident. i was supposed to die. he said i needed to follow his guidance and i would be okay. it was so hard to believe but i trusted him. the very next day i would find out if i received the knowing. >> this day was going to meet god, okay. not the president, not brad pitt. this was god. so you didn't want to take this lightly. >> we were up in the woods and
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he looks into your eyes with like, you know, this open-eyed meditation that's so overwhelming. and he said, "what do you want?" and i told him that i wanted to have the knowing revealed to me. >> he said, "hmm," but it was very doubtful. he was really playing with that for me. >> he said, bow down, and i did. he said you will receive the knowing and you will know god directly. >> and he said i think you're ready for it. >> something in me changed and literally for three days, i thought i was on an acid trip. i felt atoms and i saw things
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and i kept checking myself like wow, is this real? >> i wasn't trusted to have the knowing revealed to me. basically, he said not this time. i think you're not quite ready yet. >> my sister had been there for six years working like a slave. i mean like a slave. >> it was especially hard for me when my brother got the knowing and i didn't. >> the knowing was finally shown to me. it wasn't what i was expecting. i saw light and heard sound. there was no denying the beauty i was experiencing. but i was overwhelmed that too much was being asked of me and i was getting in too deep.
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>> he was very clear with me to abstain from having sex. i couldn't even have a relationship in the group. he said it was too dangerous and that my energy needed to rise. >> what happens during sexual orgasm, a little death. one who has experienced the orgasm of meditation, that's the greatest orgasm. >> what i remember him saying was basically that sex was a low energy. >> i didn't have sex for three years. the ones that had been there a long time had gotten way over it. >> it became the bootyfield. after awhile it was like this spiritual haven of beautiful people that we don't have sex. in fact, everybody's [ bleep ] everybody, but it was on the down-low. >> he took me traveling with him and a few other helpers.
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>> don't get the camera wet. >> okay. >> i had never felt so good in my life. healthy, loving, and loved. i did have my doubts but i worked hard to overcome them. >> to be a person is to be a mask. and you never know who you're talking to behind the mask. the real person is somewhere inside that mask. you have to stand naked in front of god as he's made you in your body of light. the master only represents god on the earth, and if you can stand naked in front of your master, you can stand naked in front of your god. know that. >> so the teacher was a
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hypnotherapist. he would invite me in for therapy, which he called cleansing. he charged people $50 a session. >> we all had therapy every week. >> in regression hypnotherapy you tried to go back to trauma, relive it, and then change it so that they are empowered. >> when you were done, you would literally float out of that place. it was amazing. >> i divulged every secret, every thought, every fear. exposed it all. >> whatever transpires here, it should be kept here. do you have anybody that you talk to about anything you do or think or say? >> michel gave us all new names to help us move beyond our past and create a new way of seeing ourselves. it was a common practice in the group.
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amy was now called emiliana. lori was called crystal. i was now named francesco. >> it would come home to us and told us that they had changed their names and this was what they wanted to be called. i said, well, we're not going to call you that. we gave you your names and that is what we are going to call you and you might as well get used to it. they came for dinner and said well, what we came here for is we want to tell you we want to detach from you. i went what? i couldn't believe it. you are going to detach from the family? we had such a happy childhood with these children. i always my intuition was working over time and i
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suspected it might be a cult. >> no, i did not feel like i was in a cult. he always told us for a non-group we're an anti-cult. >> if you have this idea of this controlling, brainwashing fellow, i beg you, please. >> my family had hired a private investigator to follow me and they found that i was with this group. he went back to my family and said, oh, this is a benign group, they're not dangerous, it will be harder for you to pull her away, it will be more damaging, just let her be. >> my family freaked out. they said i was brainwashed. they wanted to hire somebody to deprogram me. i was an adult. they kopt -- couldn't do anything. >> i mean, we all joked. we knew that we looked funny following a man in a speedo, but it turns out some people didn't see it the way we did. >> there is this guy kenny who fell in love with this girl in our group. >> she was this beautiful model
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type. he was not in the group. he was not a model type and he was not very nice. >> this guy was stalking and his motivation was to tear down the group so that he could have this girl. >> kenny started to attack michel saying he was a cult leader, telling us what we could and couldn't do. he went to an organization run by rick ross. >> when you have leaders who claim to speak for god, cannot be questioned by their followers and have little if any accountability, you have a very volatile mix. >> so he pulled in cult awareness network to try and make us look like we're holding her captive. >> parents who paid cult awareness network to go in, kidnap their children and deprogram them. this was michel's worst fear, that the buddhafield was going to be called a cult. >> now it was no longer talking about the knowing. it was no longer talking about god and love. it's talking about what are we going to do. >> he said i'm no longer in a position where i can do my work in this environment.
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we need to get out of here. >> michel didn't really give anyone warning. in the middle of the night, he grabbed me, his cook, another body worker, said pack your bags, we're going. i'm like where are we going? we're just going. i had no credit card, no money, no bank account, no phone. i was living underground with him. everyone else stayed in los angeles for the time being to await instructions. eventually he would decide where they should go. >> it was like losing my family all over again. you don't want to give that up and be tossed back into the dogs of l.a. >> i was so devastated. we were just left behind. >> i guess all i can really say
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is thank you. >> my heart is yours, my lord. >> i wanted to go with him. i never, ever wanted to be without him. >> we went to all these places trying to figure out where we were going to live next and how were we going to protect ourselves. >> his behavior started to become obsessive. >> he convinced all of us that every christ figure that walked the earth had been killed because they brought very unconventional, radical ideas that society didn't like so they would kill them. anybody, and i still didn't know i was as close to him as anybody, and i still didn't know who he was. i don't think anyone really knew who he was. i think he may have had his mother die really young or something. >> his brother died when he was really young. >> i know he had come from a wealthy family. >> in the '60s in san francisco. >> at least that's what he said to me.
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>> dark arts groups. >> i know he came to america to be a movie star. he wanted to be famous. >> his first name was jaime gomez. his stage name was michel rostand. >> he was an actor. i assume probably a good one until i saw some of his acting. >> i know he was in "rosemary's baby." >> i know that he was in the movie "rosemary's baby." >> he was in "rosemary's baby." >> his whole role in this movie was just like a millisecond at the end of it looking into a camera. >> according to some that had come around, they saw him in some pornographic movies. i just thought that was such hogwash. he never made it to be a star although i'm sure that was his intention. >> he used hypnosis, his spiritual understanding and his acting methods, and they all
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andreas. after we had been under the radar long enough, andreas felt it was time to bring everyone back together. he wanted everyone to move out in small pods. people broke their leases, sold their homes and their belongings and began to pack. people trickled into austin and we recreated the buddhafield. >> new people would show up all the time. we were sharing this love that we were experiencing with other people. i would say the word recruit. we were all recruiting. >> and i recruited lots of people myself. he was looking for people who were open and that was his instruction. >> then he started recruiting people that knew how to do ballet because he loved ballet. >> he used yoga classes to recruit more members so that he would always have more people coming in.
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>> it was very interesting group of people because they were all beautiful. these beautiful bodies and these little speedos and the girls were so beautiful. you couldn't miss them. >> even though he wanted new disciples, andreas was still hesitant to let anyone get too close to him. he kept telling us there was still a lot to be afraid of from the outside world. >> as you can see, the fire has indeed engulfed the vast majority of this compound. the latest figures we have -- >> just 100 miles north of us, waco happened. we watched in horror as 72 members of a presumed cult died during a government raid. this freaked him out because he thought what happened to david koresh was going to happen to him. >> this was a spiritual leader who was being demonized and running this group, and he was afraid that people were going to draw parallels and they were going to see him as that. >> i did feel like i needed to
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protect him at times. >> in austin it was keep the group secret, sacred, sacred things need to be kept secret. >> we did exercises in class to practice in case the fbi captured us. >> you're going to tell them that you don't know any andreas, you don't know anybody. >> i wasn't sure if the fbi was after us or not, but i would do whatever it took to protect him or the group. even though i wasn't a very good liar, i did it. >> i had no integrity at all. i would lie to my mother for him. >> we were instructed that we had to lie to my parents all the time. >> i rarely had any interaction with anyone outside the group. even my parents, who lived nearby in ft. worth, had no idea i was in austin.
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>> he would send me all these little gifts from these places to prove he was writing these letters. i still saw through it. it's sad and it broke our hearts, really. >> bye, will. >> we just had to hope it would all work out. >> my role increased in the buddhafield and i had a group of new disciples eager to do service with me. i set out to make our house in austin a place of peace and beauty. by the time we were finished, we had built not only a massive garden but also an aviary complete with peacocks, exotic birds, even a wallabee. the garden became our sanctuary and his house became like a refuge from the outside world. things quieted down. time went by and we didn't hear much from cult awareness network anymore.
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we thought we might be getting back to normal, but the demands of the buddhafield and andreas became greater and greater. >> the aviary with all the birds and bunnies was overrun by rats. we would lift up a rock and hundreds of rats would go running out. he asked us to kill the rats. and we armed ourselves where -- with shovels. i would hit them over the head or we'd have to decapitate them. it just went on and on and on killing these furry little creatures. it was like he was playing a game with us, like he was turning us into his own personal little warriors. i am rich.
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days and he would look ate and say, i don't like the back of this building, i don't like where the windows are, i don't like the walls, take it down. and we would. we would literally unbuild the building and rebuild the building so he could come back and look at it. and he would say why is this taking so long? if i was doing this, it would be done a year ago. you're creating karma. i was just horrified and he would say, this is all just a teaching for you. it doesn't matter when the building gets built. what i care about is you awakening through this process. and if you don't get this building done by next week -- and i would go, did that just happen? >> once the theater was built, andreas began choreographing ballets. we would rehearse every day for hours. people would drop everything, including their jobs to make it to rehearsal. >> these ballets were astonishing.
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fabric would be ordered from l.a. and flown in so we could have these elaborate costumes and set design. it was something extraordinary. >> everybody was involved. we would rehearse them for a year, do costumes and everything, and we'd only show these ballets once to ourselves and that was it. >> he lived like a multi-millionaire's life in the simplest form. he had a chauffeur. i drove him around. he had a cook. people cooked for him. he had someone cleaning his
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house. >> everywhere he went in public, i brought along a special chair. it's huge. it was on a backpack. it was about like this. on one end he's totally paranoid and trying to be secretive. on the other hand, he has this entourage of people setting up a throne for him anywhere in public. he would call me and say what are you doing? i'd say i'm in bed. he'd say "you better get out of that bed, you have service to do!" >> it was all designed. >> he wanted to control the social lives, interactions of everybody, what they did. >> it was presented as your spiritual guidance, what's best for your soul. >> we weren't supposed to read books, watch tv, listen to the radio, and i never did any of it. >> he became upset with me one day when i told him i had bought a tv and he later said, oh, you did that behind me back. i was like, i didn't know i had to go and tell you before i made the decision to buy a tv. >> with my friend danielle, he'd
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say he's crazy, with all these weird expressions. she'd look across the room and say "we're going to be here for the rest of our lives." >> it was kind of nice when it first started out and it wasn't all about adoring him. it was about achieving some kind of spiritual growth for yourself, not licking his feet. >> he did not like anyone who had a normal, natural sex life. and how he treated sexuality in general was juvenile. >> there was a young lady in our group named sophia. >> she was amazing. she spent her whole life just wanting to be a ballerina. >> she danced beautifully. of course he made her like his prima ballerina. >> andreas wanted her to be close to me but not to have sex
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with me and all along he knew i was growing attached to her. he told five different women not to date me because it would be bad for my spiritual development. >> there were so many mixed messes about sexuality. we were told you're not your body, don't get obsessed with your looks, yet everyone was obsessed with their looks. and yet we were all obsessed with how we looked. the women had plastic surgery. the men had to go to the gym. people had to wax their bodies. >> he really did not want fat people. did not want anyone in the group that was not physically a starlet. he wanted everybody to be starlets. >> so he was suggesting that this person had their eyes done or suggesting that this person have their cheek bones and another person had their chin. he sort of got obsessed with it. >> we were going into his bathroom and just finding piles of mascara and fake eye lashes
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and concealers. he wore make up like every day of his life. >> i remember one time i was in the water with him and he had an eyelash on his cheek and i'm like trying to signal to him to flick that off, but i didn't know about the plastic surgery. but it started to look evident. >> he was always telling us this is the body. it's going to be a carcass one day. it's going to die. and here he is over here doing his eyes, his eyes, his this, his lips, constantly doing stuff to his body. >> but he started to look very deformed and scary looking really.
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>> it was a total dichotomy of what the teaching was. >> and i knew he would have other people do plastic surgery before he did it so that he would see if it was safe or how it looked and i never questioned it. >> no one was going to say, dude, your makeup's running. no one would dare. i wouldn't dare. >> there he comes. he almost got me. >> i always turned the camera off when andreas was yelling. >> we would use this term "you need to drop your mind." >> that was something you would say to someone and it was
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almost -- it was critical. it was like, hey, you're not in line with what's going on here. >> you don't want to be in the mind. no thoughts. if you're having thoughts, you're not connected to meditation and to god. >> there's a term. it's called mutual complicity. you can't have a teacher without followers. >> the benefits outweighed the craziness. so you started to accept the questionable stuff. you just started to accept it. it's like any family. and i think a lot of us come part -- compartmentalized, a lot of us rationalized always. he certainly helped us rationalize everything. >> the only truth that's left is the truth that i am told and who
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is the highest authority in the group? it's the master. >> do you want to have kids? >> no. >> good for you. spiritual growth and children don't always go together. >> i told him i was pregnant. he said get an abortion. i did not bant -- want to have this abortion, but he said i could not be in the community if i had the child. i had the abortion. as soon as i'd hear his voice, i would go into surrender mode and do whatever he said. i was with somebody in the community that i was really, really in love with and i set it up so that i would get pregnant because i thought that would be okay. andreas had told him he would be kicked out if he didn't get me to have an abortion. so i had to get another
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of course they were demonized. >> when i left the group, immediately everybody was told something awful. we were told do not communicate with them. they're in their minds. there was rumors that i had turned into a prostitute or i was running prostitutes out of my house. >> when people started to assert their own independence, he would crack the whip. >> it was tightly controlled that if you were to go out on your own, bad things were going to happen to you. >> if i ever left the group, within a year i would be dead. why? because i would be out from under the wing of his grace. >> he had told me on a couple of occasions if i wasn't with him, i would get aids and i would die. and i believed him. i believed him. >> the thing was that he was a hypnotherapist. that means he had his finger in
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the psyche of every person he dealt with. so he manipulated each and every personality that way. >> you only have one opportunity to be with me. only once in a lifetime. >> and this was literally brainwashing. we were doing hypnotic work with people every day. it's brainwashing. >> something's wrong here. thoughts came in all the time. i was always getting the message and i chose not to listen. >> i was like what the [ expletive ] has this turned into? it's become a circus.
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and some of the older people that had been around since the beginning were kind of looking at each other going, i didn't hear where this suddenly changed to where it's all about him instead of about your inner experience. >> i wouldn't refer to him other than anything he was, an out-of-work actor who stumbled on the role of a lifetime. >> one of the people that had been around for a long time wrote an e-mail and he sent it out to like everybody in the buddhafield. >> there was this e-mail that was sent out about all this stuff, it was like what the [ expletive ] is this? >> the author of the e-mail was leaving the group and he laid
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out serious accusations about andreas and one of the most serious was that he for years had been forcing unwanted disciples into unwanted sexual relationships. andreas immediately told all of those around him that the letter was full of lies and not to read it. >> and all of a sudden there started to be this division. >> some people didn't believe it, some people did. >> it's just some letter somebody wrote and they can write whatever they want. >> i didn't have personally any reason to believe what they were saying. >> some people coalesced around him. even i did initially. i wrote a rebuttal to the letter. yeah, it was bull [ expletive ]. i mean, i had been in a sexual relationship with him. i knew that everything on there was pretty much true. well, how it started was in the private therapy sessions. being a young man and very new to sexuality at that time, i had
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a lot of questions. so you're talking to your therapist about these things and so he's got this dossier of information on you. >> have you ever had sex with a guy? >> no. >> have you ever wanted to? you can be very honest. >> and somewhere in there he started running you through homosexual fantasies. who do you find attractive? i'd start naming women and he'd be like, no, a guy. being attracted to women had no validity whatsoever. >> do you fantasize? >> yeah. what do you fantasize about? what it will be like? >> one day it was after a therapy session and he asked me to kiss him.
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i was thrown. i did not want that. i wasn't looking for that. >> that moral stuff that's been put in your head, it is not your voice. you need to get what is authentic because you're carrying so much program in there. >> the first thing he had me do was just around the body. it was like, oh, you don't need to be uptight about your body. see, you can take off your clothes and be unattached. it's not a big deal. i felt like i was doing spiritual work initially. then it started to get like, ah, come closer to me. and he sat in his throne very upright and i'd be in front of him on my knees and he said just
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do whatever you want to do, whatever comes naturally. and what came naturally to me is i wanted to get away. >> he started having sex with me, not that day but over a period of time. and it became a regular thing. every tuesday and saturday night after the gym. it was like clockwork, and i had never been [ bleep ] before. >> i was totally not down with it. and he was completely ignoring me. imagine having sex with someone, male or female, and they're just laying there, just there, like spaced out, not paying attention to you. oh, do you like this? and your answer is something like "yeah, sure."
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and they just keep [ bleep ] you because they don't bleep care. you're just a sack of meat to this person and that's when i began to hate him. >> i resisted and he would say okay, okay, let's go down the long flight of stairs, go back to your childhood, who is it that you're resisting? i'd be like i'm resisting you, i don't want to have sex with you. he's like no, no, let's go back to your childhood, when somebody wanted you to do something and you didn't want to do it -- he was a master, he was masterful at getting what he wanted. somehow after this process i would be bowing at his feet saying, oh, my god, thank you, how do you always bring me back to this beautiful place and i'd get [ bleep ] again. >> you can't say no. no is against the rules.
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and then i had to pay him. i had to pay him for [ expletive ] therapy. 50 bucks every time i'd go in. here's your bullshit therapy. we're going to [ bleep ]. give me $50. can you even imagine? this went on for every single monday of my life for five years. here i am, like, helping this guy every day with his chair, with all these little details of his life, and i hate him but still somehow i'm here in this group going through the motions serving him, and it was just i felt like i was going mad and -- yeah.
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i felt like i was going [ bleep ] mad. sophia saved my life. god. thank you so much, sophia. thank you. she knew something was funny with me. she knew when andreas told her not to hook up with me that there was something not right there and so she ignored him. so we developed a romantic relationship at age 28, 29 she was my first girlfriend, like a real girlfriend. >> how could you? we trusted you. we trusted you. we trusted you.
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>> i still felt like i owed him everything. i feel like such an ass saying it. i felt like, wow, he's doing this for me and i never told anyone. not until everything fell apart. >> i knew right there it was like, oh, my god, i see now, i see what he's been doing. it was so clear. the curtain has been opened. the curtain's open, broke my heart, you hurt people. 've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even mer-mutts. (1940s aqua music)
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>> nobody had the complete story. so some people knew some things, other people new other things, i knew the thing that i knew but nobody was allowed to really talk to each other about it. >> i had no clue that he had been seducing so many of the men in the community. >> when i heard the stories about what was actually happening, that was when i was like you mother [ expletive ]. >> he took 120 minds and manipulated each one and their own story.
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nobody ever knew. the right hand never knew what the left hand was doing. i knew you intimately for 25 years and never knew you were suffering. if i had never you were suffering as much as you did or that my other brothers were suffering as much as you did, i would have put a stop to it from the get-go. >> it's true. he started having sex with me when he took me to hawaii. i didn't understand what was happening. he kept saying everything he was doing was for me. he told me his master had brought him close the same way and it was very special. he was saving my life, he told me. i would die without him. yet he was still that person in my life who could take me to this god experience, and i was dependent on him for that in my mind. even though i had suspicions i wasn't the only one, i kept quiet and protected him. i couldn't show anyone what i was feeling or going through. despite having the whole buddhafield as my family, i was alone.
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he told me he was only working with me this way, and i could not tell anyone because they would not understand. >> nobody had the complete story. so some people knew some things, other people knew other things. i knew the thing that i knew, but nobody was really allowed to talk to each other about it. >> i had no clue that he had been seducing so many of the men in the community. >> when i heard the stories about what was actually happening, that was when i was like you mother [ expletive ]. >> along with the confessions of sexual abuse came other stories. >> he told me to say i had cancer and i had to tell my best friends, my lover, everyone, and i had to keep that a secret so that he could be the great healer and heal me of my cancer that didn't exist.
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>> it was like are you [ expletive ] kidding me? >> was 70% of it a lie? was 80% of it a lie? >> and finally we discovered that the rumors of him being a porn actor were in fact true. as more people were finding out about the truth, a few started to confront andreas. >> and i said you can't do this. this is our community and you are destroying it. >> i literally confronted him. i go what are we doing? >> he completely denied it. he said i know that you're hearing this but i haven't done that. >> he just had this innate belief that you just keep telling the story and they'll believe it. >> i had to take a stand. i knew there were a lot of innocent new people there that would not even know what was really going on. >> i was like enough. this is what i needed to leave. >> it got to a point where i didn't care.
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it was like, okay, i might be dead in a year, but it is better than being here for another second. >> i said no more, i am not your sex toy. i'm done. i'm not going to take anymore. >> he looked at me and his eyes went black. his eyes got different. his face got different. it was freaky. >> it was clear to me i was looking at a madman grasping at straws to try to keep things together. >> that's when the spell broke. i was like you have nothing for me anymore. >> in the period of a week, boom, boom, all of a sudden everybody started leaf -- leaving. >> he was on his heels. he was back pedaling. bikini line-baring. choose venus swirl. with five contour blades and a flexi-ball, ving. >> he was on his heels. he was back pedaling. choose to smooth. venus swirl. t-mobile's coverage is unstoppable. we doubled our lte coverage.
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>> the buddhafield was falling apart. it was devastating to watch my closest friends leave. >> we were summoned to a house one evening that there was going to be a message from andreas and they put up this big video screen and they showed this video. >> what this is cannot be put in a biographical letter. it doesn't need resumés about
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its story, what this is is free, untouched, unpolluted, not apologizing. >> there were some people that for the first time i saw at a gathering that got up, i don't know, ten or 20 people left while that video was going on because it was so disturbing. >> i am in you. in truth there is no i and there is no you. how come? may all beings wake up.
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>> you could hear a pin drop. nobody bought it. everybody was questioning things in their head. >> but then he did something that surprised us all. he decided after 17 years it was time for another knowing session. a few loyal members took him up on his offer, including my sister, amy, who still had no idea what had happened to me. >> and now he's desperate to hold on to those of us who still trusted him. so he revealed the knowing. and he was awful. he wasn't even connected to me at all. the day after we went for a walk and he came up and he put his hand on my wrist and he says, you know, emiliana, these people are trying to destroy your
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master, and i need to know if you know someone or if you can find a way to have them taken out, get rid of them. if not that, find someone who can just destroy their lives through the irs or whatever way. people he wanted harmed, they were the two people who were behind exposing the truth of what was really going on with him. the guy who wrote the letter and radia. >> how did this shatter? how did everything shatter? how did i come here being so hated and so ostracized and demonized when i loved someone so much and gave my life for
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so long. >> i don't know who he was at that point. to see that and finally start having my realizations about andreas, that everything he did was manipulation for some narcissistic, maniacal end. >> some members warned andreas if he didn't stop his work, they would press charges against him. we convinced him he would be left alone if he promised to stop being a teacher. i didn't want to see him harmed, but i wanted all this to end. so i reluctantly flew with him and a few others to relocate him to hawaii. here i was returning to the place where the abuse all started. but finally this time i was done with the lies. and i was done with him.
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>> it was like a big death of your family all at once. >> i did so much service for him and didn't worry about the future that when it was over, i had $45 to my name, i didn't have a bank account, i didn't have anything. i remembered just laying on the floor in fetal position. it was like i was dropping through this trap door. it was black and there was no bottom. >> where am i going to find that awe? who is going to make me dance in the forest? who is going to make me be willing to sing when i can't sing? >> i questioned everything i thought when i came out of the group. i sold my house and i took a job
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as a bouncer and reclaimed my masculinity. >> i was so angry. i was so bitter, so cynical. i couldn't trust anything. >> all of us who left the group needed to heal. ♪ happy birthday >> like many of my friends, i tried to mend the relationships i had given up in the past. ♪ happy birthday to you >> we embraced them. we told them we loved them. we never gave up on them. i had prayed that they would come back and they did. it was unbelievable really what they'd been through. and i was glad that they were rid of this man and i just feel
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a deep a -- hatred, and i shouldn't. i'm not supposed to hate, but i feel that he really is evil. really evil. >> there's this social interplay that happens between highly co-dependent people and pathological narcissists. who is going to give a person who needs constant adoration and attention, who is going to give that to them ceaselessly? somebody who relies on him as the source of their self-esteem. and they'll say you seem like a normal, rational, intelligent human being. how did this happen to you? >> it was hard for me to admit that i was brainwashed and i was in a cult. you know, looking back now, he would do all kinds of things to draw you in to him, endearing things. and he made you feel special and
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you felt really loved. >> there's something about seeing other people being devoted that makes you think, oh, well, those people don't seem crazy. >> it's what we do every time we come into a religion. we take on their beliefs as truth. you will do anything to defend that truth. you subjugate your best interests to the interests of the religion, the group, the corporation. >> that's what happens in a group-think system. that's what keeps you there. that's what kept me there. >> so the better you feel, the more you get committed. and then somebody can get you to do anything. i mean, i would have killed or died for him. it's so common. it's everywhere. look around you. you've got a cult in your town, i almost guarantee you.
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♪ >> i do think that he's created that sort of hyper protection around him again. >> andreas was now calling himself reyji, which means god king. >> even to this day i don't understand. some people still stayed, still stayed when they were told the truth. >> without those people going along and being there, he would not have been able to reconstitute the group. >> it hurts me to see he's still doing the same manipulation and it's sad because people give up their lives. you give up your power.
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they're going to deny their own ambitions, their own abilities and talents for him. everything's going to be done for him. >> the thing is what i would say to them if i thought that they could hear was he is not it. he is only here for himself, not for you. now, could they hear that? i know they couldn't. i couldn't hear it for 22 years. >> innocent people are coming now to this day, and they're very sincere and they should know. they should know the truth. >> the only way we can get to him is undercover. otherwise if he sees a camera, he will disappear. ♪
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people come and go. pretty much people pass through. >> well, are you being a good boy? >> no. i don't know what that is. >> don't you think you should learn what that is? >> good and bad, better to find out what is best. >> have you been being your best boy? >> i'm just being. >> for years i felt like i had no power, no voice.
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but i was wrong. >> sorry, andreas, but somebody needs to stop you because you've hurt my brother and you have hurt my other brothers in ways that they will never heal from, and you need to go down, you ugly, distorted, son of a bitch. [ expletive ] you. >> it's sort of this tedious process of looking, sifting through everything and looking at the good and then letting go of some of the negatives. there's a lot of good. i feel like i'm much more clear, much more knowledgeable and much more aware than i would have
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ever been if i hadn't gone through that entire experience. >> i don't think about the bad. it doesn't come in my consciousness because i only remember what was good for me and what helped me. and what helped me was this, this connection we had with each other. this wasn't because of the teacher, it was because of us. >> it was this beautifully, crazy, insane, horrible experience that has made me who i am today, and i can't wrap myself around it. >> i'm really glad about who i am now. i'm really happy with my life. i have an amazingly rich, beautiful life. i have an amazing -- i both regret it and i don't
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