this sunday americas 15 years since the 9/11 attacks. cnn looks back on that day in an iconic film "9/11. 15 years later." thanks for joining us. anderson's next. good evening. thanks for joining us. a busy friday for both presidential campaigns. donald trump about to speak in pensacola, florida. both he and hillary clinton spoke about an ominous sign that north korea is getting better at nuclear technology and a test with massive explosive power and the equivalent of a 5.3 magnitude earthquake and we'll have more on that later in the program. we begin with breaking news of the trump acampaign. someone released his taxes and it is not donald trump. governor pence just released his tax returns and does this put pressure trump to do it?

>> reporter: yeah. it absolutely does, anderson and mike pence releasing ten years of his tax returns and showing frankly, relatively modest numbers. these are not seven-figure salaries that we're talking about here. the pences had a tax rate of 8% and earned $113,000 and this puts the spotlight back on donald trump and his refusal to release his own tax returns and he's said that because they're under audit and that argument has been weakened by a letter released by his tax council who has said that between the year 2002 and 2008 that they are not under audit anymore so meaning essentially that they could be released. the clinton campaign already picking up on this tonight, drawing that contrast between the running mate saying that donald trump continues to make excuses not to release his. >> trump spoke earlier today is the voter value summit in

washington. what was the message there? >> this is a group of evangelical christian conservatives and donald trump did his best to try to appeal to this group and he spoke about faith than he typically does and here is a small part of what he had to say. >> so let me state this right up front. a trump administration, our christian heritage will be protected, defended like you've never seen before. believe me. >> so certainly interesting comment there from donald trump and he really needs this group of evangelicals to show up in november and he admitted as such. he said look, you guys could determine the election. >> he continues to face some backlash in some quarters in his comments about vladimir putin and this that aired on russian state television.

have he or the campaign responded? >> reporter: this is interesting. the trump campaign is continuing to downplay how that meaning and how that interview ended up airing on russian television. they said this was a favor that trump did for the interviewer larry king and that they had no control where his podcast would end up and they did not even know or were aware that that's where it would end up, but certainly the substance is raising eyebrows as well as you said especially given the praise that he had of russian president vladimir putin. trump in the interview downplaying concerns about russia meddling in the u.s. elections and dismissing all of the reports that russia had potentially some involvement in the dnc hack that was so notable just a few weeks ago, anderson? >> sunlen, thanks very much. now to the clinton campaign and strong words from the candidate about what she calls the most important election in her lifetime and helicopter met with the foreign policy experts in new york and took questions from reporters and senior washington

correspondent jeff zeleny joins us. what did she have to say? >> it was a domestic one rooted in the economy suddenly is a global one and that was front and center today when she convened a meeting of national security experts from both sides of the aisle and a lot of familiar faces there from the george w. bush administration, as well, but she had some news on north korea. she said it is time for a rethinking of the strategy, trying to distance herself a bit from the obama administration. she said it was time to pressure china more. she said the u.s. has more leverage than some people might realize and she said it's time for more sanctions on north korea and she focused her time on that interview that we've been talking about on state television in russia that donald trump gave. she was asked about that and she was walking away from the poed wrum and she came back to answer the question and this is what she said. >> secretary clinton do you have a response on donald trump appearing on russian television?

>> every day that goes by, this just becomes more and more of a reality television show. it's not a serious presidential campaign and it is beyond one's imagination to have a candidate for president praising a russian autocrat like vladimir putin, and throwing his lot in with him in the way that he has approved of his wish list and not even really understanding what putin has already done like invading and occupying crimea. >> reporter: clearly using that answer as another avenue for her to question donald trump's judgment. anderson, she's been doing it all week long as they've been

having a running audition for who would be the better commander in chief here with the national security front and center in this race with some 60 days to go before election day. jeff, it's interesting. secretary clinton there again taking questions. it seems like she's taking more questions this week than she has over the last year, certainly. >> you're right. by our tally that is certainly true. she did it today in new york and yesterday in front of her campaign plane and the two days before that, as well and when you ask her advisers why that is, they believe this is a new moment and they know this race is tighter than they had hoped it would be and they believe that it is time for her to be on offense and if she is answering some of these questions, yes, the criticism that came up in the month of august about how she's sort of hiding and gone away and it gives her an opportunity to prosecute the case against donald trump, again, focusing on everything he says. so one adviser tells me that she's going to now try and do a rebuttal for virtually everything she says going forward and she's going to try

to do more of of a positive message on her own and we'll see speeches next week on the economy and national service and other things, by taking questions you saw her walking back. she wants to engage in donald trump. she's trying to keep those voters who have skepticism about him skeptical and she believes that by engaging now it's the best way to do it. perhaps she wishes she would have done it before, but now she certainly is. >> jeff, thanks very much. >> a question that's been lingering for months and one you heard sunlen serfaty talk about is russia behind attacks on the websites? it depends, of course o who you ask. as we mentioned in an interview aired on russian-backed television, cnn has learned that justice department officials there is strong evidence that russia is responsible and that's according to law enforcement and intelligence officials. trump said just a few days ago that putin is a stronger leader than president obama and trump is rallying behind that sentiment and he said this to

our dana bash. >> i think it's inarguable that vladimir putin has been a stronger leader in his country than barack obama has been in this country, and that's going to change the day that donald trump becomes president of the united states of america. >> whatever you make of donald trump, hard to get a handle on his comments on vladimir putin. he's given praise publicly and it seems to be reciprocated. tom foreman today reports. >> even as the russian-staged military exercises in crimea on land annexed despite international outrage, vladimir putin is basking in praise from an american presidential contender. >> he is very much of of a leader. >> donald trump's most recent compliments came on nbc's "commander in chief" forum. >> it's a very different system and i don't happen to like the system, but certainly in that system he's been a leader. >> the trump-putin bromance has been brewing for months. trump admiring putin's military

moves in syria in support of the assad regime which the u.s. opposes. >> and he frankly wants to fight isis and i think that's a wonderful thing. >> reporter: trump seemingly inviting russian hackers to go after his democratic opponent, hillary clinton. >> russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> trump and his running mate governor mike pence both praised putin's, quote, strength, but to some that strength looks awfully close to authoritarianism. putin has cracked down on gays and lesbians in russia and outlawing so-called gay propaganda, russia says, to protect children. despite that, trump cites putin's popularity. >> he does have an 82% approval rating. >> that number came from russia's only independent polling company which putin just shut down ahead of looming elections and as to the dismal state of russian journalism which dozens of reporters killed in mysterious circumstances

under putin's reign. >> i'm totally against that, but i do hate them. >> putin speaks well of trump, saying he is a brilliant and talented person and despite the controversy and trump appears pleased. >> when he calls me brilliant. i'll take the compliment. the fact is it's not going to get him anywhere. >> that is the question. would trump's admiration for putin give moscow too much sway in washington? critics fear it would and maybe already has. while trump says he is opening up new channels of communication with an old adversary from which everyone can benefit. anderson? >> tom, thanks very much. joining me to discuss it all cnn correspondent and trump supporter jeffrey lord, and tony schwartz who is the ghost writer for donald trump's "art of the deal" and supports hillary clinton. >> jill, do you believe that vladimir putin is playing donald

trump or attempting to play him? >> think he understands him pretty well. when vladimir putin was a kgb agent part of his job was to recruit other people to really understand, to get them to understand him immediately and sometimes, you know, maneuver, play with them, play to them and so these comments like donald trump is bright, you know, interpreted as brilliant. it actually meant kind of flashy and colorful, these are all meant to set up donald trump to believe that the relationship can be good, but i think that putin understands trump a lot better than trump understands putin. >> so was that actually a translation mistake that it wasn't calling him brilliant? the word was actually bright as in flashy? >> oh e totally. the word in russian is -- [ speaking russian ] >> meaning like the lights were

bright. it's nothing like intelligent. it's a colorful character, that's the best way i would translate it. >> tony, what is it that you think about donald trump's personal they makes him respond to putin like this? >> he is at heart a deeply, deeply insecure man and he is a sucker for flattery, and he is reveres and let's not kid ourselves, he reveres authoritarians because he dreams of being one. >> jeffrey, do you think there's any truth in that? >> no. i don't. the other thing i find absolutely amazing, anderson, hemingway had a great piece today noting four years ago when mitt romney said that russia and putin were a geopolitical threat, president obama mocked him and said the '80s are calling. they want their foreign policy back. you know, president reagan had a very tough relationship with the soviets and he was the first to go on soviet television in 1986

and address the russian people. i mean, i just find a lot of this silly. >> oh, come on. >> let me just say this to jeffrey. you don't know donald trump very well. how much time have you spent with him? i lived with him day and night, these are his favorite phrases. i love that guy. he's a killer. you don't know him. anybody who does know him well knows who donald trump is, and no one who knows him well would doubt that to be a dictator and to be able to control everything would be his dream come true. >> jeffrey, there have been some republicans who have been concerned, particularly early on of some of trump's staples sounding like doing things by executive fiat at the very least. >> you mean like prs who says he has a phone and a pen? i mean, this kind of stuff has been going on -- if you want to go down that direction, that's

what the entire obama administration has been about. >> why don't you talk about your own guy? why don't you talk about your own guy? stop talking about obama? what about donald trump? this is a man who wants to be a dictator. >> tony -- >> let him answer. i am trying to answer anderson's question and i am saying we've already seen hints of this with president obama. heavens, there have been articles out there for years that he's a wanna be fascist, for heaven's sakes. i just think this is ridiculous. donald trump, of course, has talked about how you need to work with congress and not sign executive orders and run the government by executive order. he's talked about working with congress. >> he has said also on moo. >> there is a constitution out there, tony, whether barack obama and my democratic friends want to recognize it or not. >> i'm not sure what donald trump knows what the constitution says. i can tell you this, he's never read it because he doesn't read anything, as you know. he's not a person who reads. so the notion -- >> tony, tony, let me just

suggest something to you, when franklin roosevelt was elected president the people who knew him best who went to school with him and voted against him said one classmate wrote i can't understand all this fuss about frank. in other words, they didn't get it. the american people saw something in franklin roosevelt that the people who knew him best didn't get. i would suggest we've got the same on. >> >> jeffrey, you don't know this candidate so you're making statements -- you don't know him personally, do you? you've spent almost no time with him. >> tony, i haven't spent nine years with him? no. do i know him? i certainly know him. more to the point, tony thshgs is about the american people's judgment of donald trump and they're in the process of making it. the republican party, millions of voters nominated him for president. >> here's what i would say. >> case closed. >> here's what i would say, jeffrey, do the american people want someone who has already said he wants to abridge free press? do they want their own rights for free speech abrogated.

>> stop with you mean like this or that? that's so silly. that's ridiculous. talk about this man, that's what we're being asked to do. >> tony, the basis of this is that you're a liberal and you don't like the guy's politics. >> it has nothing -- >> let's be honest about it. >> it has nothing to do with that. i don't like his character. i stood with this man -- >> don't vote for him. >> of course, not, i'm here to tell america that he is not the person who they think he is. if they want a dictator. if they want a person who does the kinds of things putin does they should vote for donald trump. i'm encouraging people who want a dictator to vote donald trump. everybody else should not. >> we will continue this conversation in just a moment. we're also keeping an eye on pensacola a florida, where trump is speaking at a rally tonight that's getting under way. also the u.n. security council calling an emergency meeting after north korea claims a successful test of a nuclear warhead that could be mounted on

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>> for all americans, democrats, republicans, independents, conservatives, liberals, even liberals who failed us in this corrupt, corrupt system, we are fighting -- >> donald trump speaking live to supporters in pensacola, florida. we are keeping an eye on that seeing if he brings up the back and forth about russia and vladimir putin. hillary clinton joining in the chorus of forces incredulous that donald trump has been praising putin. with me is trump supporter, jeffrey lord and jill daughtery, and the author of "art of the deal." >> how are donald trump's comments playing out in russia? >> they're all over the map. they are ecstatic and i would have to say the coverage of what donald trump says actually, the things that come out of his

mouth play very well with what the kremlin says, and so they don't even have to bring up their own propaganda or media strategy or whatever. they just use the quotes by trump and then it plays very well. nato is weak. obama's a wimp. we should let russia have influence in where it wants to. you know, things that ultimately rr what vladimir putin wants, but they're coming out of donald trump's mouth. i mean, i remember an old phrase in the soviet days. it was called a useful idiot. [ speaking foreign language ] and they are people who mouthed what somebody else is saying, say the leader of another country or whatever, not knowing what they're actually saying, what the result of what they are saying is. so these are parodied back and accepted by the kremlin and used

in their media to great success. i mean, donald trump has become just a very popular guy because he says exactly what putin himself says. >> jeffrey, you talk about ronald reagan a lot who confronted the soviet union time and time again, not just directly and with his words, but on the growth fund all around the world. that was u.s. foreign policy and donald trump seems to be embracing vladimir putin and seems to -- his claim that he had a relationship with vladimir putin and under questioning of george stephanopoulos became clear and he's never talked to him on the phone and just by saying that they had a relationship and how do you define a relationship? i don't -- i'm not sure i see the comparison to reagan in that have you heard donald trump in any way talk tough to vladimir putin? >> well, i -- i think -- i

mean -- i've heard him talk repeatedly about peace through strength which is exactly ronald reagan's mantra, and let's remembers that all of my liberal friends of the day of the 1980s were criticizing ronald reagan for not talking to soviet leaders. he used toec jo, they keep dieing on me. he never got together with a leader of the soviet union until he was in office five years. he was tough when he needed to be, but he was also very open to a relationship with mikhail gorbachev. >> and he was never praising how authoritarian or how tough the leaders were. they were certainly tough leaders. >> this business about leadership, anderson, leadership is an interesting term. i mean, there are some pretty bad people in history who were, quote, unquote, leaders. they took their countries and the world in the wrong direction, but they certainly led them there. >> why praise that form of leadership? that's what i don't understand.

>> i don't think he is praising it. >> he has praised him. i think he's simply saying that the russian people see him as a leader. he is a leader. yeah -- >> tony, go ahead. he says he sees him as a leader. he admires him. he's the one that thinks it's really, really important that he has high approval ratings, 82% approval. guess what? if your life is at risk when you say that you don't approve you're going to approve. there seems to be no understanding on trump's part that we are talking about a despot and dictator. >> whoa, whoa, tony, let me ask you this -- let me ask you this, if this was the case then why was poor mitt romney mocked for saying these very same things that you're trying to say in 2012. >> mocked for what? >> he was mocked by president obama, by the democratic party,

by "the new york times." they said oh, you know, that's old stuff. this is a new era. so you're saying the obama administration has failed in its foreign policy. >> you know what? -- i'm not a political commentator. i am an observer of a man, of a particular man whose judgment and character i have come to understand -- i came to understand very, very deeply, and what i know about donald trump is that he likes tough guys, authoritarians, dictators, despots because that's what he aspires to. that's what i'm talking about. i'm talking about a character issue here, and that's a terrifying thought for every american including those who support trump right now that the guy they support, when he takes office will use every possible means to consolidate his power so that he can make decisions. jeffrey, as you know -- as you know, he has made the statement

i -- only i can solve the problems. that's the statement of a singularly self-absorbed thinker. >> jeffrey, i want you to respond ask then we've got to go. >> i just think, tony, with all due respect. that's silly. you oppose him politically, i understand that, but the american people on the republican side have come to their own conclusion about donald trump. they've made it. it's done. he's -- >> it's done? >> a lot of people want to vote for him. >> we'll see what happens some 60 days from now. tony schwartz, good to have you on and jill daughtery, as well. >> thank you, tony. >> thank you, jeffrey. >> jill? >> much more ahead including north korea's nuclear test and the underground blast was equal to a magnitude 5.3 earthquake and why this was creating more worry than the previous four have. ♪ [tires screeching] ♪

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>> as we said at the top of the broadcast north korea conducted another underground nuclear test twice as powerful as his last one. it happened last night and reaction was swift and harsh. the u.s. presidential candidates also weighed in. >> i think it's clear that the

increasing threat posed by north korea requires not only a rethinking of the strategy, but an urgent effort to convince the neighbors, most particularly china that was not just a u.s. issue. >> it was announced that north korea performed its fifth nuclear test, its fourth since hillary clinton became secretary of state. it's just one more massive failure from a failed secretary of state. >> north korea conducted the test on the 68th anniversary and the founding of the government and just hours after president obama wrapped up the final leg of his presidency. barbara starr has the latest. >> reporter: north korean state tv announcing the nuclear test and the second test this year potentially it's most powerful yet. the regime claims it tested a

nuclear warhead that could be tested on a missile that could some day hit the u.s. >> the international community and the united nations security council and especially the other six-party powers must hold north korea accountable for this latest act and heighten the pressure on north korea. a u.s. official tells cnn north korea has embarked on a rapidly developing and increasingly successful nuclear and missile test program, this time more than just worldwide condemnation. in tokyo, patriot missiles continue to sit outside the japanese defense ministry ready to shoot down any possible north korean missile. the south korean government immediately gathered as south korea's president park called kim jong-un's regime fanatically reckless. >> translator: this is a significant threat to world peace and security, and puts the korean peninsula into a security crisis. >> reporter: president obama

issuing an unusual long statement calling it a grave threat and with a very precise warning to kim jong-un that the u.s. maintains the commitment to provide extended deterrents guaranteed by the full spectrum of u.s. defense capabilities. that full spectrum language is reminding kim that the u.s. has its own nuclear weapons to protect japan and south korea. the test comes amid increasing numbers of successful missile tests, meaning if north korea did successfully test a nuclear warhead the regime is now on the path to a nuclear attack capability. >> they clearly have a nuclear weapon. it's just a question of how many missiles they've been able to make it to. >> reporter: president obama says the world will not accept a nuclear north korea, there is no agreement on what would stop kim short of military attack.

the pentagon may decide to send ships and aircraft to the region as a symbolic show of force, but the sheer size of this latest nuclear test has unsettled governments around the world. >> another nuclear test by north korea is worrisome and quite dangerous. some experts are saying that it could have been ten to 20 kilotons. that's significantly larger than previous nuclear tests. >> barbara starr joins me with global time and he's columnist of the daily beast. >> you talked about the idea of symbolically sending ships and what sort of impact does it have? >> sourceser telling me that kind of discussion is always going on and when it comes to north korea there are always options on the table. if they do this, what does the u.s. do in response? they're always ready for that sort of thing. there are a number of ships that are maintained in the pacific,

and do you, in fact, want to make a show of force or is he so unpredictable right now, kim jong-un, it's better to see if he can get the chinese in to talk to him. it is very uncertain. >> gordon, the former u.s. ambassador to south korea, christopher hill office cnn today and he was talking about -- saying that the u.s. should look at the nuclear program in north korea and quote, what direct means we can take to slow it down or kill which is very strong language. how likely and what are the options? >> that was an extraordinary interview because chris hill was very much a dove when he was in the bush administration and for him to talk or to affirm military options really are striking. i don't know if there's really a military option on the table at this point, but there are so many things we can do short of that. for instance, we haven't been enforcing sanctions and the ministry has no secondary chances on china and you need to

impose costs on beijing because that's the only you can get them to be cop rattive on north korea. why do they see this as their problem, as well as a nuclear north korea, and his primary strategic adversary across the board and he's not going to help the united states on anything even if it's in china's interest and besides, every time north korea acts up we run to beijing and we ask for help and it gives us another reason to be cooperative with china and distracts us from other things we want to do in the region and keeps us off balance. if north korea didn't exist, china would have to invent it and it's that beneficial for them. barbara, hshg saying that we have more leverage with the chinese than we think. >> well, i agree with gordon. i think everything we're hearing in issue what wash from government officials is they at least hope so. there isn't really an option because if you're going to go the other way, if you really,

you know, went the awful route of military action against the regime, you know, what would happen? the thinking is that kim does not really, and he knows retaliation would be massive and he knows he and the regime would be obliterated and that's part of the message that the administration is sending, but the alternative is diplomacy and working with the chinese and incentivizing the chinese, how do you get them off dead center right now and i think gordon would agree, one of the big unanswered questions, is it possible that the chinese are helping them a bit? >> how in control is kim jong-un and how much of a rational actor is he? it's one thing that he doesn't want his own regime to be eliminated and that implies that he is rational in his thought process in the way he views himself and his regime. >> think that he's rational and i don't think he has a firm grip on power as most people think he

does. the u.s. intelligence community said that he quickly consolidated his grip after the death of his father in december 2011, but we've seen so many executions of senior officials and now high-level defections that neither regime is fluid and because of that, kim jong-un has a very different risk calculation than we do. he views the world in much different terms and so therefore, what we think he should do he doesn't look at it that way. >> interesting. gordon chang, thank you so much and barbara starr, as well. thank you so much. more breaking news tonight, but on another foreign policy front. the united states and russia have reached a deal on the cease-fire in syria. john kerry and the russian foreign minister, and the pack calls for the syrian government and the opposition to respect a nationwide cease-fire starting at sundown on monday. if that truce holds for serve days and humanitarian aid can get in the u.s. has agreed to begin coordinated air strikes with russia against agreed terrorist targets in syria. just ahead, back to the campaign

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more proof tonight that the long and winding history that the clintons share are complicated. the presidential library has released photos of donald trump socializing with bill clinton with trump's then-girlfriend melania and sports illustrated model kylie backs. they look like they're having a pretty good time. other photos taken at a political fund-raiser at trump tower. a lot has changed to put it mildly. the trumps and clintons aren't hanging out these days, trading verbal punches except melania trump who hasn't been seen much in public since july. randi kaye. >> my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. >> reporter: that was the last time melania trump said anything

on the national stage. july 18th at the republican national convention in cleveland. why the silence since? perhaps it has something to do with the blowback after her convention speech. part of it had been plagiarized from michelle obama's 2008 convention speech. >> the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work hard for them. >> the only limit to your achievements is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. >> the trump campaign denied she copied a word. instead, a trump staff writer said it was all her mistake, and with that, mrs. trump quietly disappeared from the public eye. she hadn't even been seen on the campaign trail in nearly two months until this week in philadelphia when she attended her husband's national security speech. >> has melania trump just been busy at home caring for the couple's young son baron or is there something more going on

here? she's come under scrutiny, her website was taken down after there was no record of her earning a college degree even though her website claimed she did. >> and what about her path to citizenship? that, too, became an issue after "the new york post" published nude photo of melania trump taken in the united states in 1995, but she told cnn she came to the u.s. as a slovenian immigrant in 1996. even with her husband's central issue being illegal immigration, no one from the trump campaign has provided any record of how melania trump obtained legal status here. in an interview earlier this year, melania told anderson cooper she obeyed the law. >> i came here on visa. i flew to slovenia every few months to stamp it, and came back. i applied for green card and then after few years for citizenship. >> that only adds to the confusion, show, since the proper visa melania trump would have neededto work legally in

the u.s. as a model would not have required a stamp every few months. in fact, it wouldn't require reyou. >>al for at least three years. melania recently took to twitter to, in her word, set the record straight. writing she has been at all times in full compliance with the immigration laws of this country. mr. trump addressed the issue last month. >> they said my wife melania might have come in illegally. can you believe that one? let me tell you one thing, she has got it so documented. >> at that time, donald trump promised his wife would address the immigration controversy in a news conference, but one month later and still no date has been set. with just two months until the election, it's usually all hands on deck including spouses, though nothing indicates melania trump will be returning to the trail any time soon. >> randi joins me now. given that we're 60 days or so before this election i would find it highly surprising if they decided to have a news

conference about, you know, melania trump's immigration issue. >> i think you're probably right. donald trump had promised it would happen. he mentioned this in the news conference and he mentioned that she would address her legal status and her path to immigration and that was a month ago today, anderson and we haven't heard another word about it and that's not surprising and let it simmer and let's sit on it and he seemed to be enjoying the reporters' questions about it, but it's a month away -- two months away for the elections and it's unclear if that news conference will happen. this is a critical time and she's always been the reluctant campaigner staying home with the son baron. she seems to be sitting out at this point. randi kaye, thanks very much. >> what second graders think about the presidential race and they do have opinions on the candidates and what the winners should do, you may wish one of these kids was on the ballot. their thoughts when we come back. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in.

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-- that was great and you put your chest out and you said that's great. when does it happen? >> donald trump speaking to supporters in florida right now. his second campaign stop today. he and hillary clinton just about everywhere, just about everyone seems engaged in this

election, even kids. they are watching and as only kids can do, absorbing it all, forming their own opinions. gary tuchman spoke to a group of youngsters who weren't shy about sharing their thoughts. take a look. >> when i point to it we can read it together. >> reporter: this is a two-room schoolhouse in north carolina, one of the smallest public schools in the state. the water's edge village school. this is the whole second grade class. nice to see you. do you know that we are electing a president of the united states in this country right now? >> yes. >> reporter: you do? do you know who's running for president? >> donald trump and hillary clinton. >> reporter: who's barack obama, by the way? >> barack obama is the president right now. >> reporter: so why isn't he running? >> because he already had two times. >> reporter: how old do you have to be to vote? >> you have to be 18 or up. >> reporter: 18 or up. are any of you 18? >> no. >> reporter: oh. i mean, how old are you?

>> 7. >> 7. >> 7. 7. >> 7. >> 6. >> reporter: 7 is the lucky number at this table. have you heard anything on tv about hillary clinton and donald trump? >> yeah. >> reporter: you know they yell a lot? >> yeah. >> reporter: you do know they yell a lot? why are they yelling at each other, hillary clinton and donald trump? >> because they're mad. >> because they don't want the other person to win. >> reporter: what do you think donald trump does for a living? >> building. >> reporter: buildings, right. he made a lot of his money building buildings. big buildings. well-known buildings. you know what, he says he has billions of dollars. isn't that amazing? do you know how much a billion is? >> yeah. >> reporter: a billion is a thousand million. what would you do with that much money, a billion dollars? >> buy a bugati. >> reporter: a what? >> a bugati. >> reporter: is that a car? >> yeah. >> reporter: i don't even know what that is.

>> fastest car in the world. >> reporter: you think it's time for the united states to have a lady president? >> yes. >> reporter: you do? i'm not going to ask if you think hillary clinton should be that lady or not. do you think that's an important thing for the united states to have a lady president? >> yes. >> reporter: do you think it's an important thing for the united states to have a kid president? >> no. >> reporter: like maybe someone who is 7 years old in second grade. >> no. >> no. >> reporter: what's wrong with that? >> you don't know how to do it. >> reporter: do you know who hillary clinton's husband is? >> yes. >> reporter: who is hillary clinton's husband? >> wasn't he one of the presidents? >> reporter: he was one of the presidents. his name is bill clinton. so if hillary clinton would win, bill clinton would be the husband of the president. that's kind of unusual, right? >> yeah. >> reporter: what would be the best thing to do if you were president? >> keep the laws. >> reporter: you're happy with the laws? >> yeah. >> reporter: what if we didn't have a president? what if we all made our own

decisions. would that be a good thing or bad thing. >> bad thing. >> reporter: why do you think that would be a bad thing? >> because it would start out really crazy and terrible and we would have car crashes. >> reporter: car crashes. if hillary clinton and donald trump were sitting on this bench with me, what would you say to them? >> i would say -- well, actually i would faint. >> reporter: you would faint? that's an honest answer. it's been great meeting all of you. i hope donald trump and hillary clinton come to your school some day so they can hear from some smart kids. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> smart kids indeed. a program note, this sunday at 9:00 a.m. eastern, don't miss the cnn exclusive interview with hillary clinton on the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. sunday 9:00 a.m. and noon eastern. still to come in the next hour of "360" donald trump campaigning in florida, key battleground states. he continues to come under fire for praising russia's president vladimir putin.

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thanks for joining us for the second hour of "360." we begin in florida, where donald trump is wrapping up another busy day on the campaign trail, a day that included blaming hillary clinton for north korea's nuclear test ang