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thanks for joining us in our second hour of "360" tonight. a lot to get to in this hour. from donald trump passing other people's money off as his own charitable contributions to a cease-fire that seems to be holding in syria, at least for now. we begin, though, in pennsylvania, a battleground state where donald trump wrapped up a rally a short time ago. the topic, his family leave policy. the opening act, his family. trump's daughter, ivanka, introducing him tonight. sara murray was there and she joins me now. so donald trump rolling out some new key policy initiatives tonight, which we don't often hear republicans actually talking about. his daughter, ivanka, did the introducing. what did some of that plan
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entail? >> reporter: that's one of the things that donald trump and ivanka trump both pointed out, is this is not something republicans have necessarily focused a ton of time on. and a policy that he was laying out, one of the top lines was six weeks of paid maternity leave for women whose employers don't already offer it. no paternity leave, just maternity leave, but also an expanded subsidy to help offset child care. take a listen to how he explained that tonight. >> the first part of my child care plan allows for every parent or family in america, including adoptive parents and foster parent/guardians to deduct their child care expenses from their income taxes. that's a first. i see the women who i just met in the front row are very happy about that. they will fully be able to deduct the average cost of child care for their state, from birth through the age of 13.
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>> and, sara, certainly no accident that the speech was in pennsylvania. >> reporter: oh, absolutely no accident. pennsylvania is a key state for the trump campaign. they really see the rust belt as their strategy to victory. they have not been as competitive in some of the states out west that we've seen republicans make a play for in the past. so to be here in a suburb of philadelphia speaking to female voters, speaking to suburban voters, these are the kinds of people trump needs to win over in a state like pennsylvania if he wants his map to work in november. >> sara murray, thanks very much. hillary clinton set to be back on the campaign trail thursday after taking a couple of days to recover from pneumonia. the clinton campaign itself did not take a sick day, as president obama hit the trail for her. brianna keilar reports. >> reporter: hillary clinton resting at home with pneumonia, getting an assist from president obama in philadelphia, where he blasted donald trump for not being transparent. >> you have one candidate in this race who's released decades' worth of her tax returns. the other candidate is the first
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in decades who refuses to release any at all. >> reporter: he also defended the clinton foundation and criticized trump's. >> one candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. the other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity and then bought a 6-foot-tall painting of himself. i mean, he had the taste not to go for the 10-foot version, but -- >> reporter: the trump foundation's purchase of the painting was first reported by "the washington post," which also found the charity hasn't seen a donation from trump himself since 2008, almost unheard of for a family foundation. though running mate, mike pence, insists trump has been very generous.
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>> anyone who knows about donald trump and his career knows that this is a man who has given away tens of millions of dollars to charitable causes, throughout the course of his business life. he's been incredibly generous. >> reporter: but we really don't know if that's true. and we may never. his campaign manager, kellyanne conway, asked if he'll release any information about his purported donations. >> and the reason i ask -- why would you doubt it? >> i doubt it. because this is like badgering. in other words, i don't see it as journalism, i see it as badgering. in other words, we've had this conversation so many times on so many different networks. >> reporter: while clinton has released more than three decades of her tax returns and the clinton foundation has publicly released donor information, her use of a private e-mail address and a private server while secretary of state, has severely tarnished voters' opinions of her. and most recently, her failure to reveal she had pneumonia until this video surfaced of her nearly collapsing while leaving the 9/11 ceremony, is raising questions about her transparency. >> why keep it a secret?
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>> well, i just didn't think it was going to be that big a deal. >> reporter: her campaign initially said sunday she was dehydrated and had overheated, only to later admit that she had been diagnosed with pneumonia two days before. she and her husband are trying to set her medical state straight. >> frequently -- not frequently. rarely, but on more than one occasion, over the last many, many years the same sort of thing has happened to her, when she just got severely dehydrated. >> oh, i think really only twice, that i can recall. you know, it is something that has occurred a few times over the course of my life, and you know, i'm aware of it and usually can avoid it. >> trump has also put out very little health information, besides a very colorful letter from his doctor saying his test results were astonishingly excellent and that trump will be the healthiest individual ever elected president.
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conway defending trump. >> i don't know why we need such extensive medical reporting when we all have a right to privacy. >> brianna joins me now. will hillary clinton -- do we know if she's going to release her medical records soon? >> reporter: we're actually told it's going to happen soon. i think we'll see that in the coming days. her campaign says they're working with her doctor, anderson, to put some medical information together. and as we pointed out, donald trump is going to be releasing some information on "the dr. oz show" about a recent physical that he had. we should point out that hillary clinton has already released that information. you know, her cholesterol numbers, her blood pressure numbers. and what we don't know about donald trump is whether he's going to release information about his medical history. mike pence talked to cnn yesterday. he said he's going to release information about his current health status. he wouldn't say that it's going to be anything more extensive than that. but bottom line for both of these candidates, it's really unclear just how extensive this information about their health is going to be.
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>> any details on what hillary clinton has been doing while at home resting? >> so her spokesman says it seems like it's been a little bit of a working at home situation. he says that she's been making calls, that she's been reading, he said that she listened and watched president obama today in philadelphia campaigning on her behalf. and cnn's also learned, anderson, that clinton actually weighed coming back on the campaign trail tomorrow. in the end she decided not to do that, to probably with her doctor's insight there to get three full days of rest, and she'll be returning to the campaign trail, we expect, on thursday, when she speaks before the congressional hispanic caucus right here in washington. >> all right. brianna, thanks very much. appreciate it. the clinton campaign keeping the pneumonia diagnosis under wraps for two days. donald trump refusing to release his tax returns. just two examples of why there are so many questions about transparency in this election. joining me to talk about it, carl bernstein, author of "a woman in charge."
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and david gergen, senior adviser to four presidents, including bill clinton. david, hillary clinton makes the point that she's given out more information about her health and taxes than donald trump has, and yet there is still this sense that many people have that she is not as transparent as they would like her to be. do you think that's fair? >> i do think that she's added a lot of fuel to that fire over the years. this is -- you know, she's not a newcomer to the scene. and there have been a number of examples in the past. going all the way back to the whitewater case and the s&l scandals where she's had a real penchant for secrecy, others, the "financial times," says an addiction to secrecy. and it baffles her friends. i've worked with her and for her, and i'm among those who's baffled because this is an extraordinarily smart woman who is very much on top of the issues, cares deeply about the way government runs, wants to be a good model.
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and yet, in this area, she can -- she's made the same mistake over and over. and it's baffling. >> carl, do you think it's just that she's been, you know, bruised, and has been in the public eye for a long time, and has grown wary over the years, as anyone -- >> i think this is her real illness. that this is a pattern that goes back, as i say in my book, she's had a difficult relationship to the truth, going back to her days in arkansas. she doesn't trust the press, her constituents, anyone with the real, whole picture. she thinks she has to control information and now it is working against her to the point where she could lose this election. and i have said, it's time for her to put everything out there. put the goldman sachs speeches out there, put her health records out there, sit down with her and a doctor and the press for an hour. because the other part of this story is that donald trump is a con man. he has been covering up his
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whole business life, not just through this campaign. it is a huge cover-up. we have seen "the wall street journal," "the washington post," "the new york times," great reporting about the cover-up of donald trump's business activities. >> you know, david, to carl's point, though, we still don't have detailed medical records from donald trump. you know, we had this sort of odd, to say the least, doctor's note saying that he will be the healthiest president in the history of the world, or in the history of the united states. we still don't know really anything about his tax returns, even though his 2002 to 2008 returns, the audit on them, according to his own attorneys is finished and so if the argument is, well, i can't release my current tax returns because of an audit, there is no audit on the previous ones, so why not release those? >> i think donald trump is on an outrageous course and he's been much less forthcoming than hillary clinton has been. carl bernstein is absolutely right on that.
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the last nine republican nominees for the presidency have disclosed their tax returns. the last nine going back to ronald reagan in 1980. every single one. it is a tradition that is followed by the democratic party as well. and it's more important for trump's case than anybody else's, because he's running entirely as a businessman. and the success of his business, and he won't let us understand and see the numbers to back up his claims. he's been really generous with charitable -- charities. he says, let's see the numbers. let's see what he's been paying out in taxes. let me make one other point. now that he's coming forward with health records, it's bewildering to get this report that he's going to do it with dr. oz. i mean, talking about a way to trivialize this subject, and politically, i think it's a mistake, because he's had hillary clinton on the defensive here for one of the first times, and now he's going to make -- if that's the kind of course he's going to pursue on his health records, he's going to bring the issue back to himself and he's going to be on the defensive.
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>> although you could make the argument, carl, that you know, dr. oz probably reaches an audience, predominantly women, daytime television viewers, and that may be just who donald trump needs to reach. >> look, "the apprentice" has got himself to this point by doing this type of television. i'm not at all sure that this is a big mistake for donald trump to do this. in the medium of reality television. we need, i think, is a little less equal time debate, particularly on cable television right now. and a little more looking at what the underlying facts are here of both donald trump and hillary clinton's life. side by side. and i think then we begin, and our readers and viewers begin to get an idea of who these people are next to each other in terms of the lives they have led, the businesses they have run, the public service they have done, or haven't done. what their real values are. then, i think, we have a basis
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and people in this country have a much better basis to make a decision about voting for one of these candidates. >> and david, this lack of transparency. i mean, what kind of consequences do you think this has? not just in this election, but moving forward, just in terms of governance. does it have a ramification? >> i think both candidates are moving along a track, they're making it more difficult for themselves to govern if they win. it is important, if you're president of the united states, to build up trust in the american people, so when you say something controversial or when you try to take a controversial action they will have faith in you that you're telling them the truth and that they're going to go along with you more easily. when dwight eisenhower was president, it was said just when he took a position, 20% of the people in the country automatically agreed with him because they believed in him. they had absolute faith in his integrity. and this question of integrity goes so far in a society where leadership is based on
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persuasiveness and on influence, not on real power but on your capacity to bring others along, trust is the coin of the realm. it's been that way for years, but even more so now. >> david gergen, carl bernstein, good discussion. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up ahead, we showed you how donald trump unveiled his family leave policy tonight, but how does he pay for it and how does it compare to hillary clinton's plan? we'll break it down. also ahead, we have breaking news. why new york's attorney general is investigating trump's charitable foundation. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine.
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as we've been reporting, donald trump tonight spoke about his family leave plan at an rally in pennsylvania. we want to do a quick reality check on that plan and contrast it with hillary clinton's. tom foreman joins us with that now. tom? >> hi, anderson. the question of parental leave has been a democratic talking point for quite some time, but trump has signalled in a big way that he's putting it on the republican platform, too. so let's look at how hillary clinton's plan and his plan compare. among the main points, clinton wants to give new parents 12
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weeks of paid family leave or medical leave, which she says won't cost businesses anything because she'll pay for it by increasing taxes on the wealthy. trump's plans call for six weeks of maternity leave. this is strictly for mothers at this point, not fathers. and how would he pay for it? if companies don't already offer maternity leave, they'll have to contribute more to the federal unemployment insurance program. what about child care? clinton wants no more than 10% of a family's income to go for child care. and she wants to give tax breaks or government grants to families where the expenses go beyond that mark. trump wants to focus more exclusively on the tax break side, suggesting child care savings accounts, similar to your health care savings accounts, can help people reduce their bills. clinton wants free quality pre-k for all 4-year-olds. that's just part of a broad series of proposals she has for improving public education. trump wants to substantially rework some tax deductions to give parents more money in the
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pocket for all of their child care issues, including educational choices. anderson? >> i mean, these are all certainly popular ideas for many working families, who could certainly use the help. what are some of the problems? >> well, the clinton campaign says that for trump the problem is fundamentally that his plan is for the rich. that tax breaks won't do much for the middle or low-income families. the trump people say she's dead wrong. and analysts say the middle -- and analysts in the middle say the real issue is funding. how is anyone really going to pay for either one of these plans or can the plans pay for themselves? the progressive think tank the center for american progress estimates that for families living below the poverty line, they spend almost a third of their income on child care, and everyone else pays a lot, too. so offsetting that in a meaningful way would mean shifting monumental amounts of money from one place to another and it's not clear either of these nominees could pull that off as a president. anderson? >> tom foreman, thanks. back with the panel.
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clinton supporters richard socarides, bakari sellers, gloria borger, kayleigh mcenany, and jack kingston. it is unorthodox to hear republicans making proposals like this. so, you know, donald trump is certainly doing something we don't hear very often. >> we don't hear republicans very often talking about government solutions to problems, social safety net, entitlements. and that's what donald trump is talking about now. i think that the big question mark has always been with republicans, how are you going to pay for things because they don't want to add to the deficit. and as tom foreman just said, we don't know. we don't know how you're going to pay for things. he can say he's going to pay for it one way -- >> richard? >> i would say these proposals from donald trump tonight sound positively european. they sound a little like european socialism. it's like, how far will he go to soften his image? >> that's what this is about, you're saying? >> that's what this is about. this is about softening his image. but you've got to remember, this is -- we're eight weeks from
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tonight the election will be over and we will know who is our next president. and what elections are about is like, what do you stand for? i mean, trump can't come up with a proposal eight weeks before the election and say, for the first time, that he's for child care. >> when hillary was a member of the u.s. senate i never knew her to be a child care champion. i was in the house when she was -- >> oh, that's ridiculous. >> i never -- >> that's ridiculous. families is what she's been about from the beginning. >> the reality is, i do know she was for nafta. her husband passed it. she said the transpacific partnership agreement was the gold standard. >> didn't she work on the whole health care initiative for president clinton -- >> she did, but the child care component of it wasn't a part of it that i remember. >> that's not true. >> that's simply not true because -- that's just fundamentally not true, congressman. and what we do know is that the reason that we have the c.h.i.p. program, which is the child health insurance program -- >> absolutely not. that is not true. >> that is so true. that is so -- >> guys, nobody listens when you talk over each other.
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>> that is so true. >> bakari, say your piece. and then -- >> i want to get back to the point. because i don't want to lose the fact that this has been a tenet of the democratic party for a very long period of time. the democratic party has tried to push through paid family leave for year after year after year and it's the republican party and the republican house, when you were there and even now that refuse to pass family paid leave. so it's nuanced, it's good to see donald trump talking about it because -- >> okay, jack, respond. >> let me say this about c.h.i.p.s, the child health care program. hillary clinton, to my recollection, had absolutely nothing to do with it. it came out of the house republican education committee, led by bill goodland, and we on the appropriations committee funded it for the first time. >> but it came out of health reform. >> thank you. >> it came out of her health reform. >> then everything we're going to say that comes out of health reform originated from hillary. >> no, no, it came out of her health reform -- >> it did not. >> it did! >> it was not -- in fact, most
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states had some level of it. and it was part of medicaid. c.h.i.p.s was simply an expansion of medicaid for children age 12. >> if you're a voter who cares about child care and you've been paying any attention for the last 30 years in american politics, you are going to support hillary clinton, not donald trump. >> unless -- >> this is just an effort to soften his image. >> please -- >> there might be other reasons. >> no one listens when everyone talks. it's my pet peeve. i know viewers at home just freak out. so please, let's just not talk over each other. i appreciate the enthusiasm. kayleigh, you haven't spoken. >> i was going to say democrats have made promises, you're right, about child care that have not materialized over the last few decades. and this is when donald trump says, what do you have to lose? trying something else? trusting me on these issues? you've trusted democrats for 40 years. and it hasn't worked. donald trump is putting forth a plan. he is putting forth a way to pay for it. and hillary clinton's promising to do double, but she doesn't
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have a plan to pay for it. she says i'll tax the rich. that's what obama has said. but he has instead dpubld toubl national debt from $10 trillion to $19 trillion. >> but can donald trump come forward with a plan so close to election day when it's not really a subject he's ever really spoken about before -- >> when you think about what ivanka did at the convention, she set this thing up. she said it would be coming. so this isn't just -- >> but is it weird that it came from his daughter? that basically his daughter has access to him and therefore got him to do this? maybe it's a good thing. >> i think it's appropriate, because she is a leader in some of his corporations and some of his business leaders and she's saying, dad, this is something we need to do, and he's listening. i think we're hearing the democrats get a little worried he's knocking at the door of some of their issues. >> i would have to say that donald trump is clearly newer to this issue than hillary clinton, who's been working on this for decades. that's not a partisan thing, it's just the truth. and recently, donald trump bragged that he's got great on-site child care for his
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employees. and both the a.p. and the daily beast did stories saying that the -- that the day care is actually for the guests at his -- the children of the guests at his hotels and not his own employees. and, you know, people are pursuing that story because the question is, how long has he been devoted to these issues? what he is doing, i will give you, is further than lots of people in the republican party have gone, largely because it doesn't fit in with the republican orthodoxy, and largely because it's going to cost an awful lot of money. but the notion of sort of who's been devoted to, you know, women's issues, as in maternity leave, or child care issues, when hillary clinton has spent 30 years -- >> i do also for accuracy's sake, we just double-checked, politifact has said it's mostly
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true hillary clinton's being behind the c.h.i.p.s program. you can quibble with that or not. >> there was a line -- >> i don't think the question is -- >> kayleigh? >> i don't think the question is who's devoted to women more. i know donald trump's uplifted women in his company, has raised a very wonderful daughter who has the capacity to achieve and has achieved. i don't think the question is devotion. i think the question is ability to actual get things done. hillary clinton has not gotten this done, despite being so devoted to it for decades. it didn't get done under bill clinton's administration. donald trump has the capacity to change because he's not a politician, he's a businessman. so try someone else. don't try a politician who talks out of one side of her mouth -- >> let's talk about the deplorables comment. at this point which is probably not something the clinton people want to talk about, but it's interesting. they're actually now running commercials. they're not running away from this. she's already said, i shouldn't have said half, that was incorrect, but they're sticking by it. how big of a mistake do you think this was or do you think it was for hillary clinton? >> i don't it was. >> i agree with him. >> i think that, you know, she probably regrets saying it and she's said as much, because it distracts some attention.
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but the truth is that trump has attracted -- mr. trump has attracted a lot of people with very fringey beliefs to his campaign. and he's run a campaign based upon anger and fear and prejudice, and i think we have to call him out on that. >> i also agree. i think this is a playing field where hillary clinton will do extremely well. the reason i believe that is because people try to compare this to mitt romney's 47% remark. and the reason this is different is because mitt romney was showing an animus towards poor people. hillary clinton is showing an animus towards racists and bigots. and for me, i have absolutely no respect for misogynists, no respect for bigots, no respect for xenophobes -- >> but saying half of trump supporters -- >> i agree with that wholeheartedly. you also have to say that not all donald trump supporters are bigots. by any stretch. they're not. but they do have to feel comfortable supporting someone who exudes bigotry on a regular basis. >> she insulted half of this country. >> that's not half of the country. >> she said half of trump's
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supporters are desperate -- i let you finish. half of trump's supporters are desperate. half of trump's supporters are not american. read in between the two comments that are being reported on the news, are not american, and all the horrible labels that you elicit. she insulted millions of people. and i agree with president obama in 2012, if you're not going to be president of all the country and you only want to be president of half, you shouldn't be president -- >> do you give her credit for saying, i was wrong to say half? >> no, because she didn't retract the statement. you retract the statement and say i was completely out of line and -- >> but has donald trump ever retracted a statement? >> donald trump has said he regrets -- >> has he ever retracted a statement? >> he said, yes, he said if the john mccain statement was taken out of context, he takes it back. >> that's not retracting a statement. >> there's another bookend to this which i find offensive and that was bill clinton's speech the next day where he said, you know, make america great again, which is a phrase he's used many times but he said, you know, really it's code talk and if you're white from the south, you know what it means, wink, wink, wink. well, i've got to tell you, i'm
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white, i'm from the south, i was the author of the african-american museum, which is being built on the mall in washington, d.c.. >> that's not what -- >> i was a co-author with john lewis -- >> but that's not the point. >> -- that that's code talk -- >> but isn't what he's saying, is that there's an awful lot of americans, african-americans, gay americans, others who think america is better than it's ever been before because to say "make america great again" does harken back to a time when for african-americans and a lot of groups -- >> but bill clinton said the phrase probably six or seven different times. i think it's a campaign slogan and i think it's a fine slogan. i don't think that -- >> this is -- this is the definition of false equivalency and this is the absurdity of it. because donald trump from day one has disrespected millions of people and we don't have to assume whether or not they're millions, there are millions. he's disrespected hispanic voters from day one. he's disrespected people with disabilities. he's disrespected african-americans, and we quote/unquote call it outreach. he's disrespected group after
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group after group. and yes, many of donald trump supporters are deplorable. people who actually wear confederate flags down in the south, i know i'm from south carolina, and are chanting "make america great again," that literally terrifies me. because i don't want to go back to a place in this country where we harken on some of those old prejudices. and all i'm saying is that leadership means and it denotes that donald trump has to, for one time in this campaign, stand up against that bigotry, stand up against that xenophobia -- >> he has, repeatedly. >> no, stand on the stage and simply say, this is not a part of our -- >> he's the guy who's reaching out to the african-american community. >> that's not outreach. >> let me say this. if i'm trying to sell you a chevrolet, and you've already told me you're not going to buy a toyota or ford, i'm not going to give you a very good deal. and one of the issues with any demographic, if they say, i reject you regardless of what you are telling me, i don't think it's good for the system. and it's important to say, donald trump is talking, he's engaged, he's going to baton
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rouge, he's going to mexico, he's going to milwaukee, he's going to detroit. this is positive -- >> bakari, respond and -- >> i'm glad we're having this conversation because there is a way for the republican party to reach african-american voters. but it's not talking at us. it's not talking down to us. and it's not being condescending, which donald trump has projected. >> we've got to go. thanks to everyone on the panel. breaking news ahead. we'll have more on that right when we come back.
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more breaking news tonight. new york attorney general eric schneiderman says he's investigating the donald trump charitable foundation to make sure it's complying with the laws governing charities in new york. now, the trump campaign called it another left-wing hit job motivated by partisan politics. the investigation comes in the wake of a series of reports by "the washington post" that trump spent money from his charity to buy things for himself and also passed off contributions to the foundation as his own donations. trump has refused to release more information about his foundation's finances. on cnn's "new day," his campaign manager defended trump's charity. >> donald trump has been incredibly generous over the course of his life -- >> with his own money? >> with his own money, and his foundation's money, which is his money. >> no, the foundation's money
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are other people giving to his foundation. >> okay. >> "the washington post" found that trump hasn't given any money to his own foundation since 2008. joining me, senior investigative reporter drew griffin, who's been doing his own digging. drew, you've been working on sourcing some of the quote/unquote tens of millions giving the trump foundation has claimed. what are you finding? >> first, there's no evidence that tens of millions exist anywhere. we've been after the campaign, as david has, trying to get any kind of documentation on that. it doesn't exist. but what the campaign told us last night is look at "the washington post" report, it's filled with inaccuracies. based with no other guidance, we started checking some of david's report. and we have found some problems. three of five groups that david pointed out that may have not gotten the money, they actually, it turns out, did get the money. latino commission on aids today, they went back and checked on our prodding and lo and behold, found a record of a $10,000
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donation made by the trump foundation. the giving back fund, similarly, reported that they didn't have any record of any kind of donation. they went back again today with their accountant and found a $10,000 donation. and we just got off the phone with -- it's called friends of veterans in palm beach, florida. this looks more like an inaccuracy on the trump foundation report. the trump foundation reported that they had given to friends of veterans in vermont. well, the folks in vermont didn't get $1,000, but the friends of veterans in palm beach in florida did. so on those three different cases it seems that trump may have a point, that there's some inaccuracies in the reporting. but as i said, overall, we're looking for tens of millions of dollars and we're talking about collectively $21,000 here. >> i want to bring in david fahrenthold from "the washington post" who, as drew pointed out, has done exhaustive research on trump's foundation. so david, other than the three charities, which had told you
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they didn't have things, now say they have found things that trump sent them in the past, what surprised you most, first of all, overall in your reporting in what you found? >> i think as drew pointed out, you go into this expecting it's the donald j. trump foundation. and the expectation is it's donald j. trump's money, but it turns out he hasn't actually given it any money since 2008. so we've been look for other -- looking for other gifts. trump says he gives other money outside the foundation. we've been searching for that all summer, a large portion of the year. i talked to 326 charities that looked to be sort of the closest to trump. and in the period between 2008 and this may, i found one gift from back in 2009 that was given outside the foundation. so as far as i can tell, the trump foundation such as it is is the public evidence of trump's charity in the last few years. >> kellyanne conway stated that donald trump has donated to charities with his own, quote, own money and his foundationing money, which is his money, end quote. that's not exactly accurate. the money as you pointed out since 2008 going to his
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foundation, though he initially had given money, mltz illions o dollars to his foundation, that's all coming from corporations and others, correct? >> if you look back, since 2008, the tax records we have go from 2008 to 2014. trump foundation has not released its tax records from 2015 and 2016. so it's possible that kellyanne conway knows something that we don't know. that maybe trump has been giving it money in the last couple years and not telling anyone about it. i've asked for that information. i'm sure drew has as well. we haven't gotten anything from them that would indicate that's true. and in fact when alisyn cammarata pressed kellyanne conway on that this morning and said the trump foundation's money is not trump's money, she seemed to concede and said okay, fine. >> so what are the unanswered questions at this point? do we know more than we don't know at least? >> i think the things that i would want to know would be why people give to the foundation. a lot of people who are the biggest donors to the trump foundation, vince mcmahon of the wwe fame, there's a ticket broker in new york city, nbc universal.
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i've tried to get answers from them about why do you give money to a guy who gives it away with his own name attached, what's in it for you? and i've got no answers from them. i would love to know the answers to that. i also want to find the locations of a couple of things that trump seems to have bought for himself with money from the trump foundation. >> like a six-foot-tall painting of himself? >> a 6-foot-tall painting of himself he bought in 2007, with $20,000 from the trump foundation. so that's one thing. i'm trying to find out where that is. he's supposed to have kept it or used it for charitable purposes. he can't just use it to decorate a golf club. we haven't found that. there's also a tim tebow helmet he bought in 2012 with money from the foundation. >> and david, as compared to other, you know, foundations founded by very wealthy people, think about gates obviously, oprah winfrey has a foundation. her foundation has several hundred millions of dollars in it, i believe, and her net worth is supposed to be less than donald trump's, right? >> "forbes" says her net worth is 3 billion versus 4.5 billion for donald trump. and she said as you said more
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than $100 million in her foundation. george lucas, the hollywood producer, is ranked about equal to trump in the forbes scale of billionaires, and his foundation has hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. so it's just a totally -- >> and theoretically, how much money has donald trump generally had in a foundation at one time? >> the most money that they've ever reported having is about $3.3 million. and that was in 2009. mostly because of money from vince mcmahon. vince mcmahon had just given a $4 million gift a few years before. that's the most they've ever had. >> david fahrenthold, appreciate it. drew griffin as well, thanks so much. well, up next, we saw a lot of ivanka trump tonight. she's a mom to three young kids. she talked about it a bit tonight while introducing her dad. just ahead, her path to motherhood and how it led to her become an advocate for working women.
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ivanka trump was center stage again tonight, this time in pennsylvania, introducing her dad as he prepared to unveil his family leave policy, which he credits her for helping to shape. here's some of what she said. >> i have three young children myself, and i'm grateful daily for the means to pursue two of my dreams -- being a mother and investing in a career that fulfills me. i recognize that far too few
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women can say the same for themselves and that i am more fortunate than most. this must change. as a society, we need to create policies that champion all parents, enabling the american family to thrive. my dad agrees, and he's in a very unique position to do something about this problem and the numerous other problems facing tens of millions of parents and caregivers across our country. today, child care is the single greatest expense for many american families, even exceeding the cost of housing in much of the country. it's depleting the hard-earned savings of men and women across our nation, and it's at the root of wage inequality, by disproportionately affecting woman. >> randi kaye tonight reports on ivanka trump. >> reporter: when ivanka trump isn't bending her father's ear about business or politics, she likely has her hands full at home. >> baby one.
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>> baby two. >> baby two. >> baby three! >> baby three, now baby theodore, arrived in march this year. he joined big brother joseph, who is two, and big sister arabella, who is 5. ivanka calls having three little ones at home the perfect kind of chaos. she shared more about motherhood as cnn's trump tower family hall. >> it's the most amazing type of challenge that you really can't prepare yourself for, but is so unbelievably rewarding. so i feel so fortunate. >> reporter: by now she has the routine down telling "people" magazine "i am familiar with timing and balance as well as bathing, diapers, and how to hold a baby without fear of an accident. i feel like i am now a pro." she told the magazine she loves watching her kids grow and change. leaving them at home when she goes to work is the tough part. "it gets harder and harder to even think of leaving them," she said. in 2009 ivanka married real estate developer jared kushner and converted to orthodox
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judaism. she told "vogue" magazine with judahism it creates an amazing blueprint for family activities. observing the sabbath on saturday means no iphones or technology, something ivanka reports. telling "vogue," "for a rachltbella to know she has me undivided for one day a week we do nothing but play with each other, hang out together, go on walks together. pure family." her husband calls ivanka the ceo of the household. though she actually works as an executive vice president for the trump organization. she also has her own jewelry collection and clothing line. motherhood, ivanka says, has made her a better businesswoman. >> anyone who's tried to impose their will on a sleepy toddler knows that it just doesn't work well. and i think leadership is not so dissimilar. >> good evening, everyone. >> reporter: ivanka says she wants to make things easier for women and rk whoing mothers.
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her blog, with its hashtag women who work, is chock-full of career advice. everything from asking for a raise to dressing for success. and she's promised if her father is elected president to make sure women in the workplace are taken care of. >> at my father's company there are more female than male executives. women are paid equally for the work that we do. and when a woman becomes a mother, she is supported, not shut out. >> reporter: now ivanka is putting her stamp of approval on her father's child care proposals, and putting herself front and center in the campaign for the working women's vote. >> randi joins us now. i mean, she certainly has a lot on her plate. she's got to have some help. >> she does. she has a nanny, and that nanny is already teaching her children to speak mandarin. but she never appears really stressed out. she says basically that she's learned to be incredibly efficient. she knows that parenting is very unpredictable, but she just wakes up every day and says, i'm going to try to accomplish as
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much as i can personally and professionally and she does the best she can. but what's funny is she still thinks about all that time before she had these three kids, what did she do with all that free time, which. i bet a lot of parents wonder that. now she has three kids under five. >> up next our reporter in syria on the cease fire. the question is it heading up? ♪ i'm going to make this as simple as possible for you. you can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or... you can get the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on ev-e-ry purchase, ev-e-ry-where. i shouldn't have to ask. what's in your wallet?
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where there's been local and nationwide cease fires that have fallen apart. many people glad the violence is less but still waiting to see whether or not it's going to last. >> what about humanitarian aid? is it getting in? >> reporter: that's the problem. it didn't. the u.n. says it hasn't delivered any humanitarian aid since the cease fire went into place. maybe a little more than 24 hours. the syrian government says no aid is going to be delivered to aleppo. that was one of the largest beseenled area in the country. no aid is going to be delivered from turkey without the consent of the syrian government and the united nations. so far that consent isn't forthcoming. we've seen things like this in the past. there have been agreements to deliver things to areas. then there's scrutiny. a lot of convoys get checked by the syrian government and held up by rebel groups as well. this is a process that could take a long time. that's horrible for the people who are still suffering and in some cases starving in those
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besieged areas. and the cease area applies. to the syrian government. it's not like isis is playing by the same rules. >> reporter: it was a cease fire brokered by russia and the u.s. isis and other groups aren't part of the cease fire. if the cease fire holds for a week, then the u.s. and russia want to coordinate their air strikes, for instance, to try and hit isis together. so wait and see whether or not that happens. but it is one of the main things. isis is not part of it and should be hit harder as part of the cease fire. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back. . just by looking in my eyes. but what they didn't know was that i had dry, itchy eyes. i used artificial tears from the moment i woke up... ...to the moment i went to bed. so i finally decided to show my eyes some love,... ...some eyelove.
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>> that does it for us. thank you for watching. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. trump fires up a crowd in pennsylvania but it's not the trump you think. this is cnn tonight, i'm don lemon. ivanka trump introduces her father, the candidate as he lays out his childcare plan. >> we need working mothers to be fairly compensated for their work, and have access to affordable, quality childcare for their kids. that's what we're doing. >> plus, hillary clinton recovering from pneumonia, said she'll be back on the campaign trail thursday, but in the meantime she gets a helping hand from the campaigner in chief in