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away from election day. that's not election day for everybody. early voting begins in just nine days in some states. when's that first debate? 12 days. that will be the big moment of this campaign. we have it all >> good morning, chris. this is clearly a play for the women's vote unveiled in pennsylvania a bit unusual for a republican candidate, especially the trump idea of six weeks of paid maternity leave in the form of unemployment benefits for new mothers whose employers don't offer maternity leave. the critique on this this doesn't address leave for fathers. tax breaks allowing parents to deduct the average cost of child care in their state based on the age of the child and that would be available for up to four children or elderly dependents. the plan would also provide tax deductions for stay at home parents of working spouse. donald trump working last night
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explaining the importance of his proposal but mischaracterizing the work that hillary clinton has done. listen. >> for many families in our country, child care is now the single largest expense. think that even more so than housing. yet very little meaningful policy work has been done in this area. my opponent has no child care plan. >> so, what trump got wrong there is the last part about hillary clinton. in fact, she has had a child care plan up on website for more than a year. her plan calls for 12 weeks of paid family leave. also would especially put a cap on the cost of child care at no more than 10% of a family's income. provide free pre-k for all 4 year olds. the clinton campaign says the trump proposal doesn't go far enough. they put out a statement saying after spending his entire career
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demeaning women and dismissing the need to support working families, donald trump released a regressive and unsufficient plan. the so-called pay for is on both sides of these plans is a problem. where would the money for these plans come from and hillary would do it by raising taxes on wealthy americans, but both approaches don't take into account am some practical and political realities. >> we will analyze all of that, joe, thank you very much. former secretary of state colin powell tearing into donald trump in a series of leaked e-mails exposing how powell really feels. president obama slamming trump with brand-new economic ammo in his arsenal. give us all the latest, phil.
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>> in private, not so much. those hacked e-mails relaying that colin powell thinks donald trump is an international pariah and a national disgrace and in one e-mail to a former state department aid he discusses the birther movement and attacked him on that saying the whole birther movement was racist. it's worth noting a powell adviser has confirmed these e-mails are legitimate. president obama has been very, very public. >> i really, really, really want to elect hillary clinton. >> reporter: dubbed hillary clinton surrogate in chief, president obama blasting donald trump's qualifications to replace him. >> one candidate that has traveled to more countries than
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any secretary of state ever has and the other who isn't fit in any way, shape or form to represent this country abroad and be its commander in chief. one candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. the other candidate's foundation took money, other people gave to his charity and then bought a six-foot tall painting of himself. >> reporter: obama rejecting trump's claim he is fighting for the working class. >> this guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people. this guy suddenly going to be your champion. >> reporter: in discrediting trump's portrayal of the economy. >> we have a bad economy. >> by so many measures, america's stronger and more prosperous than when we started out on this journey together. >> reporter: oobama's case bolstered by new u.s. census
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numbers. poverty rates dropping sharply. the president also slamming trump for his praise of russian president vladimir putin. >> their nominee is out there praising a guy, saying he is a strong leader because he invades smaller countries. jails his opponents and controls the press and drives his economy into a long recession. >> reporter: trump fighting back on social media. tweeting, why isn't obama working and russia took crimia during the so-called obama years. why does obama get a free pass? obama pressing the media to do more to hold trump accountable. >> donald trump says stuff every day that used to be considered as disqualifying for being president. and, yet, because he says it over and over and over again,
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the press just gives up and they just say, yeah, okay. we cannot afford suddenly to treat this like a reality show. >> reporter: trump keeping up his attack on clinton for calling half of his supporters deplorable. >> well, my opponent slanders you as deplorable and irredeemable. i call you hard-working american patriots. >> reporter: and continuing to go after his rival over her one-time use of a private e-mail server. >> this is far bigger and a far bigg bigg bigger scandal than watergate ever was. >> reporter: we expect donald trump, according to his advisors, to keep up those attacks today. two crucial battleground states but trump facing an attack of his own in the form of an inquiry from the new york attorney general related to his
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foundation. they're now looking into that up there in new york. but the trump campaign firing back. jason miller, a top trump adviser saying a left-wing hit job and, obviously, as we look at the trump foundation and the clinton foundation, as well, something to keep an eye on as something that will continue to rise in the days and weeks ahead in this campaign. chris? >> where you're standing right now should be an issue people don't forget in this campaign either, flint, michigan. let's discuss the political news with mark preston. cnn political commentator and time warner cable news political anchor errol lewis and author of the memoir "how is your faith" now available in paperback, by the way, d. greg. david gregory. good to have all three of you here. let's put up a panel. let's dispense with the political first. trump saying she has no plan that is patently untrue. so, she does have a plan.
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it's been out for over a year and here's what you get. expand eligible tax care. that's him. he's doing 12, six weeks full pay. she's doing 12 weeks, two-thirds. she's saying, both parents, he's saying only moms. and those are some of the headlines. and then you get into how they'll pay for it. trump, i'm going to get rid of fraud in the system. clinton, essentially, i'm going to tax the rich people. preston, the politics aside of him being wrong about her not having a plan, how do these size up? >> look, i mean, i think we're going to hear more from donald trump when he pays to do his economic speech tomorrow. the bottom line is, this is a good, it is a play to try to get women to support him. as far as economics go, there's a lot of people who don't think donald trump's plan actually works. the idea that you're going to go out and make up as much ground finding fraud in the system, a lot of people don't think is
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possible. >> errol, unoorthodox for a candidate to be talking about family paid leave? >> this is unusual. it is fascinating to watch ivanka and her father talk about this. i saw them doing something that bill clinton used to do all the time. the opposing party and grab one of their ideas and take it. all is fair. it's supposed to be a competition a fight over ideas. if they want to go ahead and do that, on one level democrats should say, okay, right on. maybe we've main streamed this issue that we've talked about for so long. >> let's put up the poll of women support right now. just to give context on what ground trump is trying to make up. johnson and stein bringing in less than 10%. >> in substance and also in tone and the approach as errol was
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saying where you take a democratic idea, largely associated with the democratic idea. not surprisingly for someone like trump who is not really republican in many respects for him to be doing that. and also sticking to ground that he has to win. he has to win pennsylvania if he has a shot here. his path to 270, the number of electoral votes he needs comes through the rust belt and midwest. pennsylvania becomes a key part of that strategy. that piece is not surprising. a tremendous amount of work to make up among women, even though he may be leading with married women. a lot of white women who vote for republicans are siding with her at the moment. >> mark, does this show how influential ivanka is in his campaign? can we assume this idea originated with ivanka? >> donald trump has been criticized for not giving specific details about his policy proposals. this is pretty specific. if you look at where it came from from his daughter in many
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ways, i do find that's interesting. also, ivanka trump showed us again last night how powerful she is as a surrogate on behalf of her father. we haven't seen a lot of her since the republican convention and you have to wonder why. >> do we know what trump's policy is with his own employees on this? has that been brought out there? >> i think we don't know, although i remember there being some reporting that when it comes to many of the different programs that she talked about during the convention, it doesn't stack up well against what goes on at the trump organization. >> politico has a report out that says it is less than his proposal for the rest of the country. does that matter? >> look, it's easy enough to sort of poke a needle in it and say, look, he's not being consistent. if you remember back to the convention, ivanka trump was talking about the trump organization as if it was the sisters of mercy. social justice was the main goal of the organization.
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and i think everybody understood that was probably a bit of an exaggeration. >> david, let's move on and talk about president obama taking to the campaign trail to describe hillary clinton. he describes himself as fired up as he lays out the case for her. listen to this. >> i really, really, really want to elect hillary clinton. and sometimes, sometimes folks, you know, they're kind of surprised by that because they remember, man, you guys had a tough eight years ago. it was tough because hillary is tough. every time i thought i had that race won i was going up the rocky steps. i was about to celebrate and then i look and she's right there. but i had seen what she could have accomplish. i had seen how smart and savvy and tough she was. so, i asked her, i said, join my
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team. >> so, david, what can president obama do for hillary clinton that she can't do for herself on the trail? >> he's a sitting president who has got a high enough approval rating, little bit south of 50%, but still high enough to be effective, which says how popular the democratic brand is in the rest of the country. as we said many times before, he's so important to try to rally that obama coalition of '08 and '12 younger people, minorities that delivered him into the white house not once, but twice. that's so important. if you talk to democratic fund-raisers and other democratic supporters in general they have concerns about whether that base is going to show up and the kind of numbers it showed up for barack obama. >> david, keep making your point. let's throw up the voter enthusiasm numbers. they're accenting exactly what you're saying. >> i think that's what is so important. where is the enthusiasm and she's got to keep doing that. now, look, she can do a couple things at once.
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she can have surrogates that can work the base and then have disclosures like colin powell coming out and i'm surprised we haven't heard from powell before and i'm surprised we haven't heard from condoleezza rice and the bush administration impugned in their own foreign policy who can make the case he's dangerous on the world stage and wefully unprepared. >> let's talk about what we're going to see tomorrow. a television spectacular on "dr. oz" donald trump says he's going to reveal his medical records we don't know if that means from his latest checkup or decades worth of medical records. here's how dr. oz describes how he will or will not confront donald trump about whatever information is revealed. listen to this. >> look, the metaphor for me, is this a doctor's office a studio. i don't want to ask questions that he doesn't want to answer.
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>> that's not how a doctor's office works, by the way. i was just in the doctor's office, and the doctor says, 228 pounds and i said that is pretty good, right? she said, no, your bmi is high you're obese. >> let's hope he's dressed differently than in a doctor's office. >> that's good, too. >> what do you think is going to happen here in this tv reveal? >> made for tv moment, no question about that. if anyone is putting money down that they think they're going to get intricate details, you're going to lose the lose the bet. 48 minutes of back and forth. donald trump talking about how healthy he is and i think dr. oz might ask him why he eats a lot of fast food and that is going to be it. more questions that come out of this than are actually answered. >> is this political genius to make it into an event?
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how much can oz take? he's a real doctor, it's a tv show. >> normally what you'd do is have some sort of a discloser and then the news reporters would pounce on it and we the commentators would come in and then filters out to the public. he wants to bypass all of that. let dr. oz basically endorse it just by allowing him on the show and not challenging him at every turn and then the message goes out as trump would have it go out. it's a pretty low bar that i think mark is right to suggest. he's going to have to clear and then the rest of us will sort of come and kind of ring our hand and say if only a real political reporter had been there. dr. oz has a lot of responsibility. >> let me just say, we have to stand up for transparency here and this is what a free press should be doing. this is a man who still believes that the president of the united states is not an american citizen. has not released his income tax returns which every presidential
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candidate has done going back to nixon and has not been transparent about his medical records. this is not acceptable as a potential president. there should be transparency. hillarysecrecy, too, which has to be addressed. this is not acceptable. >> panel, thank you very much. a new report out on the organization and it examines the republican nominee connections. his trump organization connections with foreign businesses and governments and whether or not they would create a national security nightmare, if he were to be elected. we will speak to the writer of that "newsweek" investigative piece when "new day" returns. what i love most about tempur-pedic mattresses is that they contour to your body. it keeps us comfortable and asleep at night. (vo) soft, firm, or hybrid... our three collections pair up to create the perfect bed for two.
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a new report in queet newsweek" investigations the connections between trump organization and foreign businesses and government and the report finds that there are connections that would create a national security night nar if trump is elected. so, let's bring in curt, he wrote the story for "newsweek"
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and also contributing editor for "vanity fair." thank you for being here. tell us what your reporter has found and what the most troublesome entanglements are for the trump organization. >> well, the entanglements are everywhere, but what the basic story found is that, you know, donald trump founded and continues to play a significant role in the trump organization, which is an international company that has partnerships that a large number of them undisclosed all over the world. and these are with small companies, large companies, businessmen that most americans wouldn't recognize their names, but many of them are very tied in to different political parties, different politicians. they're in parts of the developing world where uneyou n that kind of connection. the interest of these businesses, the interest of
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these politicians often go directly against the interests of american national security. >> correct. >> right now you have donald trump in a situation where he makes money by aiding the people whose interests don't coincide with america. >> you're vetting a little bit in terms of, tell us how you know this and what leads you to suspect that it would create a dangerous conflict? >> let's take a very simple example. you have in turkey a connection between trump and a politically tied organization. in fact, it was so politically tied that when there was a project that was launched, the president of turkey came out to stand there with donald trump. well, the president of otuturke now declared that to be a major mistake. as you remember, he recently faced a coup and what i am being
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told is that turkey's cooperation with the united states in terms of providing an air base where we are able to launch bombers against isis would be at risk, if donald trump was president. and, so, then you come down to who is donald trump going to side with? is he going to try to repair relations with the turkish government or is he going to try to act on behalf of his investments and business partners there? and the important thing here is this is an entanglement that cannot be unwound. >> wow. >> donald trump, you know, from what i'm hearing trump is planning to say that he will put the company in a blind trust, which is sort of like saying i have 100 million shares of apple stock and i'm going to put it in a blind trust. it will be the most transparent thing about his campaign. he knows who his partners are and he knows, you know, he will
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know going forward. >> curt, i want to ask you about something that has cropped up that has raised a lot of eyebrows since paul manafort was his campaign chairman. >> the russian and ukraine connections, the strongest is in russia. donald trump's company, the trump organization, trademarked the name trump back in 2008 for the use in certain deals. it met with an organization call call called, which they tried to negotiate a deal. the head of that organization, who, again, very politically connected, very tied in to the putin government backed away from the deal because trump wanted too much money. now, in the future, you're talking about giving money to either the family of the president of the united states or money that will go to the
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president of the united states if his company is in this, you know, blind trust. and, so, that is one thing that exists. the other is actually surprisingly through the apprentice. donald trump is the executive producer. there's a program in moscow which is hosted by a major russian billionaire who obtained radio specktric licenses. i'm sorry, i'm using the wrong country. but who obtained certain benefits from the russian government that were the result of, again, political connections. >> and that show, that show, by the way, in russia, it is the equivalent of "the apprentice" is called "the candidate." >> i didn't think of the irony there. >> dwr >> i did when i read that. that is incredible. >> how do people say, you can say false narrative, false parity, but when this comes out,
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people will set it up against what was learned about the clinton foundation. i'm sure that was going through your mind as an anology here. what is your take on a comparison? >> they have absolutely nothing to do with each other. donald trump is a billionaire because the money came from the trump organization. donald trump's continued financial, you know, money is coming from these partnerships. hillary clinton's foundation or the clinton family foundation, no money is going to the clinton family. money is going to be aids drugs in africa. they talk about pay to play. first they have to get paid. they're not. trump is getting paid. and, so, you know, when you have a scenario like that, plus, the whole world will be on notice. again, this is a guy who in these transactions, you know, was willing to do a deal with mu
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morgadhafi who was a renowned terrorist. and, you know, you talk about palling around with terrorists, but he was trying to get money from a libyan government fund and, as a result, was feeding gadhafi. so, you know, there is no comparison. this is, you know, any company in the world if donald trump is president can say, let's strike a deal with the trump organization and engage in some legal bribery of the american president. >> kurt eichenwald, thank you for your reporting and sharing it with us. anyone who wants to read more can do so in "newsweek." >> thanks for having me. tropical storm julia. millions now facing the threat of flooding and, of course, damaging winds. chad myers joins us with the latest forecast, next.
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donald trump unveiling his child care plan last night in hopes of courting female voters. he falsely claimed that hillary clinton does not have one, but clinton put out her plan more than a year ago. let's break both of them down. we want to bring in cnn money chief business correspondent christine romans. christine, i am not kidding when i tell the viewers that you have spent hours analyzing both of these. so, you're the perfect person to talk to. tell us what you see in both of these plans. >> what i see is a starting plan for family leave in this country. does not have federally mandated planned leave. the rest of the world does. average a year for a woman when she has a baby. we're talking about six weeks
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for donald trump here. maternity leave only six weeks and he would pay for it with unemployment benefits. you would not get a whole paycheck. hillary clinton has family leave, mom or dad. 12 weeks is what she's talking about here and that would also be substantial portion of your income, two-thirds of your income, but not your guaranteed six weeks. >> you wouldn't get your whole paycheck on trump's plan, what would you get? >> for example, when you are out of work. if you get unemployment benefits, you don't get exactly what your paycheck was, you get a percentage. it would be in line with that. partially paid leave. he's talking about six weeks here. >> so, maternity only meaning no paternity leave. dads cannot take off time. >> his plan looks like it's geared towards working women. he's geared towards working women here. would same-sex couples receive benefits? the answer is, yes.
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if you are recognizing by the irs, then one of the partners would be able to get some leave there. >> ivanka was heavily involved, we think, in crafting this plan for him. who does this most benefit? working class women, middle class women or upper class women? >> it's interesting because the criticism from some of the working parents groups who have been advocating for stuff like this for a long time, this looks like it's geared towards middle class women when you look at donald trump and saying what he's going to do for lower income women, this $1,000 you could put into a fund and then $500 match from the government to help pay for child care. the criticism there is that really, you know, paycheck to paycheck poor people don't have $1,000 to put into a fund. there is also a tax credit. if you're not itemizing your deductions, there's an expansion that you could get a little money back, too. the trump campaign is addressing everyone. some of the working parents groups are saying, no, this feels like it's for working,
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educated, upper middle class women. >> what are you analyzing here? >> this is what we're talking about tax. the average cost of your child care would be tax deductible. if you itemize your deductions, for example. whatever the average cost of child care in your state, you could deduct that. up to four children or an elderly parent for donald trump, as well. taking care of up to four years you could deduct that. >> does hers include an elderly parent? >> she has, yes, she has some elderly parent stuff in there, too, broader. income eligibility up to $500,000 for a married couple. she wants to look at child care expenses as 10% of your income. she doesn't want you to pay more than 10% of your income on child care. she would do that through tax cuts and subsidies. that means every 4-year-old in america goes to pre-k paid for by the government. >> no free lunch, as we know-how do both of them plan to pay for their plans?
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>> donald trump says his plan would cost $2.5 billion a year and he would eliminate fraud. so, $3.5 billion in fraud. >> that's how, do we know that? is that an accepted? is there $3.5 billion. >> it's not as easy as they say, otherwise we would have already done it. he says he can do it because he is a superior manager who knows how to do things. hillary clinton, i don't know what the cost would be of hers and she hasn't told us exactly how much it would cost. direct federal investments and the government would bypass you and pay for some of your child care and a tax relief for middle income and low-income families. when you look at bernie sanders, that's like $35 billion a year. they would pay for that with partially tax increases on the wealthy. the devil is in the details. the conversation is so important, we need to figure out how to support working families
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we are now in day two of a very fragile cease-fire in syria. the truce does appear to be holding, that is the good news. remember, this is only happening because of the desperate humanitarian situation there. there are still hundreds of thousands of suffering civilians literally starving to death. cnn's fred live in damascus with the latest. fred, what is the word from there? >> yeah, chris, absolutely the people here are happy the cease-fire is holding. the big question is, is that aid going to get to places like aleppo and a lot of hurdles still in the way. the u.n. says they have 40 trucks packed and waiting at the turkish border, but they're not allowed to cross. the syrian government is not
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going to allow any sort of convoys to get into aleppo and so far that expressed consent has not been forthcoming yet. the u.n. says it doesn't have security guarantees from the syrian government or various groups. they are still working on that. of course, this is a very high priority for the u.n. however, does say a significant decrease in violence here in the country. however, there is still a lot of skepticism on the part of the u.n., but also on the part of the u.s. because, of course, this deal does require the u.s. to negotiate and to work together with the russians unclear whether or not that is going to be of long term success, alyison. >> thank you for the update from inside syria there. shimon perez is in critical, but stable condition after suffering a stroke. the stroke caused lots of bleeding, but no need for surgery. the 93-year-old is in a medically induced coma and
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breathing with the help of a respirat respirator. we want to get back to this video out of phoenix. this car just plows at high speed into three cops at a gas station. one was hit so hard he was tossed into the air. it was his first day of training. all are alive at this hour. police say the driver identified as mark payne intentionally crashed his car into the officers. the 44-year-old was booked on three counts of attempted murder. >> that is terrible. >> they're still soft on motive. they don't know if this was an instability or just evil at play. meanwhile, the media, as you know, has been under fire for pressing the presidential candidates and their campaigns for answers. when they are not giving us answers, we press them. that is our job. so what about this criticism? is it deserved or is blaming the media the new sport? and the way to avoid answering questions, our media
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campaign and we've seen kind of reflected by all of these campaigns now. when you don't like a question, accuse the media of bias. that's the new way of skirting and it's working very well with you. let's discuss with cnn senior media and contributor to "new york times" magazine jim. let's talk about why this is effective first. the l word. this is from the paul manafort playbook. when it clearly had proof of plagerrism. i forgot what that stat was. it was like a one in a guzillen chance. it works. people don't like the word liar being used in these dialogues. why? >> it's uncomfortable. easy to say that donald trump misspeaks and says falsehoods. it is hard to say he or any of his staffers lie because we're
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implying what is in their hearts and that's harder. people who are on trump's side or on clinton's side, they don't want to believe what the press is saying critically about the other candidate. but i think viewers at home should see through the obvious tactics campaigns use. when they're beating up on us, because they don't want to hear what we're saying but acknowledge the truth of what we're reporting. >> for those of us in the press, we don't have a horse in this race. we just ask or are supposed to ask the candidates when we hear discrepancies and hypocrisy and when we're looking for truth. you wrote a great piece of objectivity and how hard it is and the role of that in this race. where do you think we are with journalism in this race? >> i mean, it's hit this whole new level now that we're getting into the final weeks here. you are asking a question and suddenly you're calling him a liar. you're just asking a question. we're not going to take our advi advice, sorry, political consultants. we've been trained. people -- >> we ask questions.
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>> this is our job. and there's been a lot of work done over the years to say that we're bias. but we're really here to ask the hard questions. it's not calling people names. >> here's what has been effective about it. the voters are very partisan. no open mind right now. one of the challenges. >> no open mind. i like to think some of our viewers are open minded. >> i don't see it. >> chris has given up. >> no, no, this is completely, this is completely not out of my own head. when you look at the polls of people's percentage chance that they would change their vote, we've never seen any higher. that's what i'm talking about. what we've seen is the use of this tactic is very effective with your base, which is why the media, i guarantee you, is less popular than trump or clinton. >> which is why i'm glad we're having this conversation. we need to explain what we do what we do. we need to defend ourselves. >> journalism 101 needs to be reminded. >> we only do it for them. there's no horse in the race. no upside to you if you get hit
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in the head by the clinton people or the trump people. you're still getting hit in the head. you do it because the voters deserve the information, but that has been supplanted by this tactic. they now feel the media is against the voter, unless it's for their candidate. >> which is why i should say we should look at the lens and when we're criticized in this way, the campaigns and the aides are using it as a shield. it is pretty obvious. viewers at home i think should recognize it. >> they shouldn't want it, it's convenient when they don't want us to ask certain questions when it's hurting their candidate, but shoe's on the other foot, it's a completely different thing. no one could keep sight on that. interesting with conway yesterday, you're badgering, you're badgering, that's not journalism. watch any movie about reporters, we badger. that's our job. >> asking a question twice or three times is not badgering, it's looking for the answer. >> viewers want that more than
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ever. this is so frustrating. down right fear in this country. we should acknowledge how afraid a lot of people on the clinton side and the trump side are. our jobs are more challenging, number one. number two, we have to be more aggressive than normal in terms of holding both campaigns to account. >> sometimes it comes down to our tactics, as well. on taxes the trump people say stop asking about the taxes. 62% of his own supporters want the taxes. when you do it in that context, not about what i want to see. i don't want to spend my entire afternoon going through his taxes, but 62% of your supporters want to see them. you should put it out. it's not just the trump campaign. the clinton campaign plays its own version of this. president obama, the biggest gun on the team has spoken tredirec about this. let's put up what he said. >> serious issues at stake behind this election.
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behind all the frivolous stuff that gets covered up every day. let me just make a comment about that. because, look, i'm not running this time. but i sure do get frustrated with the way this campaign is coming. i'm just telling the truth. >> and, also, the truth is, someone who covered the campaign in 2008, he was going after clinton for a lot of the same things that donald trump is right now. he wasn't doing it the way trump is. but their side, false narrative, you don't cover what matters. you only cover the circus of trump. is that a mixed bag? >> real critiques of us and how we do our jobs, for sure. sometimes a false equivalency that should not be used in this kind of reporting. >> we treat trump and clinton like equal when trump makes more misstatements. >> something that is factual or not factual. therefore this false thing needs to be spoke, as well. false equivalency gets thrown
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around when you do false reporting and sometimes used that way and seems more like a bullying tactic, that's not to say some of the criticism is valid all around, of course. >> the fact that we're frustrating both sides should be seen as a good sign. >> we are supposed to be working for the viewers and i think for the most part, we're asking questions the viewers want to have asked. >> jim, brian, thank you. great to have both of you here. there is a lot of news to tell you about. let's get right to it. >> hillary clinton is running a policy-free campaign. >> my mother is the only person running for president who has a real plan. >> my father has created a plan that is designed to provide working parents with options. >> to be president, you have to do your homework and you have to know what you're talking about. >> well, my opponent slanders as you as deplorable and irredeemable. i call you hard-w
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