city, a major explosion in the chelsea neighborhood of manhattan just over four hours ago. it happened right around 8: 40 p.m. police going door to door trash can to trash can searching with their flashlights underneath cars looking for any other potential explosive device. what we know. they say this was bengsal, the words of new york mayor big de blasio. they say there is no nexus to terrorism. police on high alert gathering

at a second scene, that scene four locks away from the original blast at the second location on 27th street, authorities have located a pressure cooker with wires poppy said some duct tape and a note attached to it. what they're doing asking people at that second scene on 27th street to stay away from their windows out of just an abundance of caution. there appears to be this

suspicious device on the scene and at some point they'll have to take it away or debt nalt the device or see if it's an explosive device. the mayor said there's no evidence of a terror connection. listen to this. >> saying that there is no evidence at this point of a terror connection to this incident. this is preliminary information. it's something we will be investigating very carely, but there is no evidence at this point of a terror connection. i also want to affirm that based on what we know at this hour, there is no specific connection to the incident in new jersey. it's too early to say anything definitive on those questions but there's no specific evidence of a connection at this point. >> if you're just joining us, the event in new jersey he's talking about earlier this morning, a pipe bomb was placed on a timer that was detonated

timed with a 5-k military run happening there. nobody was injured because the run started late. >> on this one he said there was no credible threat here. >> no credible threat in new york city. and he's saying no connection, don. >> yeah. >> we have these two devices found in new york city and the last. let's talk about the victims as well. 29 people we have learned are injured. >> no deaths which is good. >> no deaths and a number of them minor injuries and a puncture wound. >> what will did interesting, according to juliette who has been keeping me informed via text here, if they're able to find some sort of shrapnel in the puncture wound. and depending on how it bennett went in, it will be instructive in pick up what kind of device. >> good points. >> three for our blocks away

they would sort of have to be the same person or at lesion connected. i want to bring in jean casarras. what's happening now? >> we were not as close as we are. the initial cite is a crime scene. an investigation is going on. this is arch active scene as i have seen from the beginning of the even. i want to tell you that a red cross disaster truck has pulled in on 23rd street. they're just sitting here but they have positioned themselves and also an ems activation logistical support unit arrived some time ago. everyone is in place and waiting right now. we are still hearing helicopters above us, but wherever this dumpster was about a block away from me, we don't really know what was surrounding it.

but they said they searched the buildings that were close to the dumpster. they did not have to evacuate. we don't know if people were residing right there or if it's office buildings. it's sort of a mixture of retail shops here, some residential. some businesses obviously closed tonight. the people of new york city are standing as close as they can get to that scene, because they want some answers, too. and seven just waiting as law enforcement our federal partners, states partners continue to be rights here evaluating what exactly has happened. most importantly of all, by whom. >> yeah, exactly. thanks, jean. >> thank you for that, jean. let's go to our justice correspondent who's been speaking with his sources. major development, evan, in the last half-hour, the fact that you and your team have confirmed that they have found this secondary device at west 27th street, a pressure cooker with

colored wiring coming out of it, duct tape, a small dark colored device attached to the outside, could be a tony, could be a timer, and finally, a piece of paper with writing on its. any idea what that is? is that a note? what is it telling authorities? >> right. it's not clear. certainly authorities are not telling us what the writing is on this device. look, i think the reason why we're treating this and the authorities there are treating it with the seriousness that they are, is because it brings us to reminders of what happened in boston during the patriot day, the boston marathon bombings that occurred using the same type of device, a pressure cooker. in that case was an explosive and they had rigged it to include nails and other project i'lls to carry out more carnage, do more harm. we don't know anything about what's inside this pressure cooker that was found with -- scene an image of it. it appears to be not a very

large pressure cooker. as she moan twab describing, it appears to have duct take and wires and a cell phone or at least one official described it to be. >> evan, we have just received an image of that. let's put it up for our viewers so they can see it for the first time. you have it. evan, just walk us through this. >> right. exactly. >> could you have the control room zoom in on that? go on -- yeah. >> right. >> the police, the nypd were trying to put a piece of paper so they could try to give it some scale. again, my estimate initially was just looking from the -- at the picture was from -- this is the image we were looking at earlier that it was in the neighborhood of ten, you know, quarters or so. but i'm not sure. it's hard to get a scale from just this image. you can see a garbage bag, a

white simple kitchen garbage bag that it appears to have been found in. that's again what the authorities -- why immediately they've cordoned this entire area, and as we've shown images on the tv there -- there you see the closer, the wires coming from the middle of the device. you see that. the cell phone is sort of attached there on the front side, on the side of the device. that's what's been described to us. i think what the authorities are mindful of is that this suggests some kind of sophistication, if it does turn out to be a bomb, it takes a little more work than someone who just puts together a pipe bomb. and that's what's what they've been dealing with all day today. >> talk about the level of sophistication to make one of these devices. what does it take? >> especially if they're using a phone, ice not clear if they were using it as a timing device

or to debt nate it with a phone call. again, these are questions that immediately come to our minds. we don't know the answers to those questions right now. that's what the bomb deck anythings will be examining to figure out if this device would have worked, if it had detonated, if something would have been done here. it's not just putting together a rudementry pipe bomb. there's recipes. you can find them on the internet. some people are better at them. in the case of the boston bombings, they worked. in other cases people take short cuts and the h explosives or the timing devices don't work. so we don't know what's inside this pressure cooker, but it is something they obviously want to preserve as much of it as possible so they can see how it was put together and they can get fingerprints and put together where the components

came from. the pressure cookers -- >> can you stand by, evan? something very important i want to show our viewers. this is an image from the explosion. we'll get back to you. but again an image of the explosion. >> wow. don and i are watching this on the air with you all for the first time. >> can we replay that? there's no sound, i would imagine. but let's look at that. you can see people outside running. >> all right. this is the first video. it's very significant because this is the first video we've seen of the explosion at west 23rd street at 8: 40 p.m. >> there's the outside. >> right. there's outside. look at that. you see people running, obviously, you know, terrified. we heard this explosion was to loud, some people heard it across the river in hoboken. we have full team coverage. >> let's describe some of this

video first. this is from orange fitness in chelsea. and so this is again -- what we have here, it's about obviously five to ten seconds of this video. there are two different surveillance videos of the orange fitness. one is from the outside. the other shows inside. this is the is the outside. it's not only surveillance video from the fitness center but it also comes from msnbc, so again we need to make that very clear here. the surveillance voerksd because this is going to be useful in the investigation as well. this video coming from original therapy fitness chelsea, also from msnbc. it shows the inside and it shows the outside. you can see it there. it appears to shatter the window. as you look from the inside out,

you see people running and trying to figure out what's happening. as we go to the outside video -- people are scattering. as we go to the outside, you can see it. >> matthew is here with us, a law enforcement analyst. you're a retired atf agent. you specialized in firearms and explosives investigations. as you watch this video with us for the first time, what do you see? what does it tell you? >> well, you know, there's always going to be a certain measure of chaos when these things happen, but as you see what happened tomorrow, you had that one incident. our major concern is if there's a secondary or ter sh air incident and at the least, we have a secondary incident. we won't be able to tell the thiep explosion that was used and get a sense for what kind of device it is. but this is a good early start and the police will be working

with the camera owners. >> this is a surveillance video we have from original theory, i should say, fitness in chelsea. the outside as -- after the explosion happened and the inside as the explosion happened. this is from them. we're using it from msnbc, because no doubt, this is part of the story and part of the investigation. we'll be back in just moments with our live coverage of the explosion in manhattan. ♪ it's peyton.

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. welcome back. poppy harlow with don lemon here. we're continuing to pol the breaking news out of new york where an explosion has taken place, 29 people injured. now in the last hour a secondary device has been located. let's go through the video. you're locking at the first video that's come to us from msnbc. this coming from across the street from where the explosion took place. >> it's a reverberation. >> yeah.

and the people running, running from it. >> yeah. >> let's show you the secondary device that was just found, not detonated. a pressure cooker. there you have it, found just four blocks away at west 27th street by the authorities. we have a lot to get through. let's bring in our -- >> let's describe this as they're looking. the explosion that you saw, at least the reverberation from the explosion, that was the one on 23rd street. >> right. >> 6th avenue that happen at 8: 40. what you're looking at now was found on 27th street between 6th and 7th. richard quest has told us they've moved people back. also got an alert telling people who live in the neighborhood on 27th street and in the surrounding area to stay away there their window and that this suspicious device, until this suspicious device was removed,

it has to be removed in the neighborhood. it appears to be a pressure cooker. looks like a pressure cooker to me. dark wiring coming out of the 207 center of the device covered by duct tape, a small device attached to the outside of the pressure cooker. that's according to local, state and federal law enforcement officials. before we get to evan perez, i want julia and matthew to look at this. this is their expertise. this is what they do. as we looked, we saw the percussion explosion, the reverberation. as you looked at this, first to juliette. you're looking at this wired device what does that say to you about who may have done this, how it was done, the sophistication and how it was all put together. >> to repeat, what evan already reported, this device is is

where in between, you know, some explosive device that people put together in their kitchen and an ied. it's not unsophisticated but it's not something 2458d narrow down for me the pool of people who could make this. all right. it's going to be a large group of people still. so without physical evidence, pictures, as i was saying earlier, is there evidence on the bodies of those now in jail -- in the hospitals in terms of shrapnel. all of those will have to be investigated. so unfortunately, this does not -- this image alone tells me this is two things. this is purposeful. the these things don't just get made. there is some discussion of writing. obviously, everyone's very curious about that, what does that say, what language is it in and other issues that we'll be focused on and reporters will be looking into but unfortunately, it doesn't narrow down anything.

that's the challenge about -- that the nypd is facing today is in a world of soft targets and the capacity to build makeshift weaponry, let alone weaponry that already exists, they have to go on other types of evidence. i just want to add one more thing quickly. you're looking also because it was not detonated, there might be finger prints, there might be proof of purchase, there might be other things that can lead the investigation, nypd, very sophisticated police department with a strong kountder terrorism unit. i have high confidence that that's being done now. >> so matthew joins us because you're not only a law enforcement analyst but you were formerly with the atf. explosives is your expertise. what does it take to build something like this pressure cooker and make it into what

appears to be something to detonate. let's look at it and talk about it. >> investigators don't take anything for granted when it comes to investigating devices like this and the sophistication or complexity of improvised explosive devices with only as complicated as the imagination of the bomber. this device could very well be a hoax device and we can't say it's an explosive device until we've taken it apart, identified in it an explosive element and classified it as an explosive device. >> here's what i'm hearing from one of my sources. they can narrow down the bomb maker but pulling latent fingerprints. any components can be tracked back to the manufacturers and who purchased it. le. >> let me tell you what i've seep in my career, don. fingerprints can drawn from inside of the pressure cooker or a pipe bomb, the type of wire or explosive powder that was used,

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. you are watching cnn's live coverage of the explosion in manhattan happening at 8: 40 this evening in chelsea on 23rd street. 29 people are injured, we're told, one of those people in serious condition because of a puncture and explosion going of you outside the building there for the blind. officials upsetting us a couple of hours ago from manhattan. also now, this was the first scene at 23rd and 6th. now a second scene to report to you where a suspicious package has been found which appears to be a pressure cooker, police in the area -- authorities in the

area are asking people to stay away from their windows and clearing people out of the area. poppy. >> i want to give you an update on the victim. that is critical. we have an update on some of those victims, how they're doing. racial crain is outside bellevue hospital where a number of the victims were taken. i know you've been able to speak with some people inside the hospital as well as some family members what do we know on the condition of the victims? >> well, poppy, a hospital official is telling us that nine victims of the blast have been treated her at bellevue but none of them had life threatening injuries. i had a chance to peek to one of the victims who was escorted out of the hospital as she has just been discharged. they said she was shaken. she just wanted to go home. she did not want to talk too much about what had occurred. she said it happened so fast, it was hard to make sense of

anything. we're still seeing the increased security presence here outside the hospital. the armed guards still around the scene. it's clearly they're taking extra security precautions. they've checked every single ambulance by armed guards that has come into the hospital as we've soon standing out there and there's been a steady stream of ambulances, poppy. >> wellview is treating nine patients from the explosion, is that correct? do we know if some are still being treated? this they all been treated and release snd. >> poppy, yes, a hospital official told us that nine victims of the blast were treated here at bellevue hospital. we do know that one of those victims has been released as that was the young woman that i spoke to. she said that she was physically find. she was just mechbltly shaken. >> racial crane joining us from outside bellevue.

thank you for the update. again, 29 injured. thank goodness not more were injured. >> it's important to say we're using that video. the video is from orangetheory fitness center, 124 west 23rd street, across the street. you're not seeing the actual explosion, just the reverberation. this is from msnbc, because we're using it for them and it's fair to give them credit for this as well. let's go to one of the eyewitnesss in the area. aidan leslie lives fwloeks away from where the explosion happened. aidan, where were you, what did you see, what did you hear? >> i live on 21 st. i was working at my desk and heard the explosion. it literally shook the walls of

my apartment, so i knew at this moment it was abnormal. this was not right, something was terribly wrong. at that moment i looked out my window, just to see if i could see anything. there were other neighborhoods looking out of their windows, asking me if i was ok. at that moment, i just -- i don't know. i went with my gut, grabbed my keys, ran downstairs and headed towards the scene on 23rd, 23rd street which was just a couple of blocks. just ran there. >> what did you see when you got there? >> it was a very chaotic situation. you couldn't see much. there was some smoke, there was a fire smell. there was, i thought, maybe a gassy smell. i couldn't just exactly tell what it was. there were people just running from the scene toward the west side and i was running towards the east. and so it was just a very chaotic situation as you can imagine. lots of fire engines, lots of

policemen. i did run into an elderly man. he had blood on the side of his face, blood on his arm. it looked like maybe he was with a female kpan yochblt it was heart wrenching. >> yeah. >> we didn't know the scope of the situation, but it's very scary, obviously, live just a couple of blocks away and, you know, it's just very terrible. >> and we've subsequently learned that there has been a second device found, a pressure cooker. >> yeah. >> device with wires just four blocks away, as someone who lives in the neighborhood, they found a second device. what are your thoughts? i mean, the feeling that you have. new yorkers, we're all incredibly resilient but when you have devices like this found in one night, it's unnerving. >> it's completely unnerving. i was here during 9/11. so i understand that living in

this state that we live in, you know, we go about our lives, we do the best we can. you know, we see news from all over the world and we just do what we can, but you know, whiffs signature at my desk and i heard that explosion, i just can't tell you, i -- the hairs on my arm went up. it was bone chilling. i knew that in my heart and in my gut something was terribly wrong. i didn't know about the second device just until recently, just because i've just been in the moment of seeing everything that's been going on. but yeah, i mean, to think that there is another device and you wonder what else is going on? you know, i mean, we are obviously in the heart of it all. this is new york city. some people would say this is the center of the universe and it's very, very scary. >> yeah. aidan leslie, thank you. we appreciate you joining us hire on cnn. >> thanks. >> get to matthew horace right

now. senior vice president of fjc security services, a former atf executive, a perfect person to have with us this evening. you've seen devices like this one, right? very similar. does this appear to be an active device or can you tell from a picture if it's -- >> no from a picture, it very well could be a hoax device. it's non an explosive device until we declare it an explosive device. the only way we can do that is take it apart, determine what is inside the device. >> walk us quickly through how they would do that. don and i saw the robot that can be soenlt in without putting people in harm's way, that big sort of capture mechanism on the back of a truck. what would they do now with this device not knowing if it's a hoax or real? >> they make sure that the

perimeter is secure. they'll take a robot, a hovering device over the device and try to detonate the device that doesn't create too much more havoc. then they'll dissect the device, determine what type of explosive, if any is inside the device. >> a device like this, how much damage can a device of that size -- i imagine probably the bigger pressure cooker -- does the size of the pressure cooker matter? >> the size doesn't matter. the material inside. if you look at the boston marathon bombing, imagine if that device gets exploded into let's just say 300 people of shrapnel and if that happens in a busy area and what happens to the people. >> we saw what it did in boston, no question. thank you so much.

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. in manhattan tonight, an explosion that injured 29 people. you're looking at lye pictures of the scene. many, many dozens and dozens of emergency response vehicles still there. we know that some of the victims are being treated at the hospital. one in critical condition. subsequent to this, a secondary device found four blocks away. a pressure cooker with wires coming out of it and ducts tape with a black device taped to be possibly a cell phone or a timer. this happening in new york city on a busy saturday evening. let's bring in our cnn crime and justice producer. he's in washington, d.c. with us along with our crime and justices reporter. you've been breaking news on this all night long. you received that photo. let's pull it up and talk about

the sophistication of this device. if we mow, evan, where it is right now. meaning have the authorities removed it yet? >> we don't know at this point, poppy, whether it's been moved to a location where the technicians can get to it and start getting to see what exactly is in it, how it was made and try to do the v investigative work. there's often serial numbers, information they can use to figure out where it was bought. that's the way they're able to solve and find the bombing -- the sfekuspects in the boston bombing. that is what is the top priority for the investigators in this case. you want to find as quickly as possible where this device was bought and try to see if you can connect that with anybody who may have been near the scene tonight in chelsea where the first explosion happened and this was found just about three or four blocks away.

the picture we're showing, we're seeing it was apparently placed in this garbage bag. someone appears to have seen it. i don't know if it was police or somebody walking by, but certainly it's triggered a lot of concern for authorities and that's the reason why we've seen all over new york people are certainly now on guard for other suspicious devices. police are looking under park benches, checking garbage cans, trying to make sure there's nothing else out there that might cause harm to people in new york city tonight. >> shimone, you're the first to describe it for us. let's go through some of your reporting. it's said it is dark colored wiring. it is exactly as united states said it. you said officials had seen it and described it to you. wiring coming out of the top center of the device, connected by duct take 25i7 to a small device attached to the outside

of the pressure cooker. law enforcement officials wouldn't say at this pint what was inside the pressure cooker. i imagine that is going to be the thing that probably gives them a lot of information as to the intensity and just how strong this particular device is. then more information about them asking people to stay away from windows as well, simone. >> the device itself, i don't think they were dub i think the plan was to take it to their where the bomb squad detonates these things in the blocs and they were going to see what's in there at that point. i think they were just concerned that it might be explosive. they do -- they were treating it as a bomb, because as of maybe even about 30 minutes ago or so, nobody can tell us whether it was a hoax, whether it was inert, whether there was something in there. i think they're trying still to figure that out.

it reminded people of the boston bombing, so it certainly has raised a lot of concern in new york city. and the bomb squad, this nypd bomb squad is the bomb squad that dealt with the times square situation where a man loaded a bunch of explosives many a car that didn't go off. so they know what they're doing. they're pretty good at this and they're going to do everything they can to sort of help this investigation, make sure they don't screw this investigation up. and the fbi is working with them. right now they're treating this as a bomb. there's no other way to sort of explain this. and they need to figure out how this was made and what was the purpose of it. right now, there's nothing to say definitively that the two are linked. they're still trying to work through that and figure out -- also, much like they found surveillance video at the 23rd street location, they're probably looking for surveillance video on 237th -- 27th street and to see how this got there.

we still don't know who found it and how they found it. the police searched the entire area and may have stumbled upon it. >> right. >> we vice president been told how they -- >> thank you, gentlemen. >> we're going to get a quick break in. on the other side, much more breaking news. these two devices, one explosion, 29 jishd r injured. nor after this is it a professor who never stops being a student?

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we're back now with our breaking news, the explosion in manhattan. this is live picture. this is from our affiliate new york 1. you may see people pop in and out of there, maybe one of the correspondents there because they are working the story as we are late into the evening. but that is the scene close to where this all happened he willier, where 29 people were injured at 23rd avenue and sixth street here in manhattan. >> jean casarez has been on the scene since the moment it happened at 8:40. jean, tonight this has quickly evolved into a very, very big situation, with that secondary device found just four blocks away. what are you hearing on the

ground. >> what are authorities saying in terms of what whether they are looking for other devices, what they are doing at this point in time to find who is responsible for what the mayor is calling an intentional, intentional incident. >> reporter: and a serious incident as he said poppy. poppy i'd like to tell you exactly the changes i'm seeing. just driving by us three different very large vehicles. they were black. they had flashing lights. the first was a large vehicle with a trailer hitch and a trailer attached to it. the second vehicle had a transmission type of device on top. completely unmarked except for the flashing lights. but the license plate said "u.s. government". that's federal right there. that's the first time that i can specifically tell you i saw federal vehicles come into this area. the crime scene is one block behind my right shoulder right here. it is being actively processed.

it's where about 8:30 tonight there was an explosion in -- out of the dumpster. they said to us in the press conference they were still trying to see where that explosion emanated from. but we do know 29 people were injured from that explosion. we were also told that here in new york city, police officers from the tenth precinct were driving by and actually witnessed the explosion as it happened. they immediately called all forces in. so in a matter of minutes, or right at the scene, were law enforcement from the very, very beginning. we also know there is a secondary site, a secondary device is what was specifically said in the press conference at 27th street between sixth and seventh. remember, everything is between sixth and seventh. and they are investigating that at this point and asking all people to stay away from

windows. >> jean, thank you very much. we want to get to our national security analyst and matthew horace a cnn law enforcement analyst and a former atf executive. i want your quick assessments of what we now know. >> all we know is what actually happened, which is the incident in chelsea, and then the finding of a bomb that was not detonated. we don't know if it was active and we don't know if it has connections to the first. this is why people like your analysts are to stay tuned to determine what in fact is reality and what is sort of a lot of the circus that goes on in cases like this. i'll tell you what i'm waiting for. what i want to know is how did they find the pressure cooker device? was it a call in? was it a search? was it an individual pedestrian

saying look there is something funky a couple blocks away? was it -- any number of ways. the wherein reason why i want to know that is because then it will help all of us determine linkages between the first and the second and whether the n yrynypd has some focus on who the culprit or culprits could be. >> okay. >> nothing we have seen today is going to narrow down the group of people that this could possibly be. that's why i stand going to bed. i'll be on at 7:00 in the morning. >> matthew? >> investigators are going to treat this as two separate crime scenes. they are going to be running down leads, comparing information and trying to determine number one, the motive, number two, who explosive if any was used in the first device and in fact if the second device is an ied.

>> what do you think it was that led mayor deblasio to say this was quote an intentional attack but also there was no evidence of a terror connection. >> the nypd reports to the mayor. the mayor is being briefed by them presumably and he was told at some measure they can't validate it was terrorism. they couldn't validate it was an accident. someone did something to cause it. >> as you look at the device. the lights are on. don't you see lights on top of that device. >> yes, yes. >> i would imagine that is an indication of something -- we said we don't know if it is a hoax device. >> we have to use intelligence, information and evidence to drive the investigations. >> the question becomes will they quickly detonate it? will they take it in a controlled debt nation or take it in and disassemble it?

>> a combination of both. but as safely as they can. a breaking story out of minnesota, where at least eight people were stabbed at a shopping mall this. happened just after 8:00 p.m. local time in st. cloud, minnesota, just outside of the twin cities area. according to police a witness said the suspect made a reference to allah and asked at least one person if they were muslim before attacking them. again, eight people stabbed, treated for non-life threatening injuries. seven were released. we know the suspect was shot and killed by an offduty police officer. >> confronted by an offduty officer not from st. cloud and was shot and killed. there was no imminent threat to the citizens. and the crossroads mall will be closed. due to the nature of the active crime scene no additional information will be released. again an armed suspect entered the crossroads mall and based on one witness account made references to allah and asked at

least one person if they were upu muslim before assaulting them. there were eight people transported to a hospital. thank you for joining us this evening, it's been an interesting. with the president and hillary clinton speaking first and then this happening right after. >> much more of our breaking news coverage continues right after this. >> good night. # this beer has conviction. for us, it's rocky mountain water...

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. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. we continue following the breaking news of saturday night's explosion in new york city. i'm george howell. >> i'm natalie allen. 29 people were wounded from a blast in maine's chelsea neighborhood. police say they have video of the exploeks and will be using to it investigate. >> we can show you this video from msnbc. it purports to be surveillance footage from that blast from a nearby fitness center. into at the reverberation from the explosion. >> the explosion happened at 23rd street and six