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weekend. the revelation comes after another bomb exploded overnight in new jersey as a robot tried to dismantle it. here it is. >> okay. police say that was one of five devices found inside a backpack that was hidden in a trash can near a train station in elizabeth. >> the good news is that the fbi is questioning several individuals after pulling over a vehicle of interest in connection with saturday's bombing in new york city. take a look at the map. this is where they went off. remember, one of those little fire maps there on the mark was something done by authorities. we have every angle of this breaking story covered. let's begin with cnn investigative producer shimon. the reporting on this. they stop these guy s in a car and they wind up connecting the two, but that's just the beginning of what they're now calling a terror investigation.
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>> so, really all this started unraveling yesterday. i think they had found some pretty good clues. i think what happened is they started digging in on some of the clues and they found that this could perhaps be connected to a wider net of people. and the fbi started working back and they made several connections now between several people. we're told less than a dozen, perhaps, that could be part of this cell and now they're out trying to arrest them. and some have been detained and the fbi is out doing searches. they do believe the bombing. the bomb that went off in new jersey at seaside heights. the incident last night in elizabeth, new jersey, and, obviously, the big explosion that occurred in chelsea is all connected at this point and all connected by the same group. >> shimon, terror cell. what does that mean? that means home grown and isis directed. >> all we know is that these guys wanted to blow things up and wanted to hurt people, whatever it is. we don't know if it's isis-inspired or isis directed
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and also ongoing and authorities have not shared any of that with us. >> isis hasn't taken any responsibility. my report is what is happening here these guys in the car just leading to more and more people who are involved in this. they're working very quickly tatry to isolate this and find the main guy, shimon. they're saying that is their big focus right now. the person who may have made these bombs is the most dangerous because he can be put into different situations. >> we really know the main guy that as far as we know until really yesterday there was really only one person that they were looking for in this cell and that was the guy who was captured on surveillance video in chelsea carrying a duffel bag with the pressure cooker. so, late last night things started developing and we start hearing, well, a lot more people may have been involved in this. >> shimon, you're getting information by the minute. keep coming back and sharing it with us. thanks. the train station in elizabeth in new jersey, gene
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casarez is live at the scene with the latest. what have you learned, jean? >> alyison, i want to tell you but we can confirm police activity going on at a secondary location in new jersey very close to where the backpack was found in the trash can and we can also confirm that this activity is related to the onogoing teon ongoing terror investigation. last night at 9:30 two men were walking by a trash can near a pub close to the train and they saw a backpack and they took it out and thought there might be valuables in it. they opened it up and saw a pipe and wires. they knew it was extremely serious at that point and went to local authorities and local authorities called in the bomb squad and fbi and a robot went up to that backpack. there were multiple explosive devices, bombs in that backpack. you are looking right there and the robot inadvertently cuts one of the wires and one of the
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explosive devices goes off. just one. at one point, just several hours ago, they were able to contain it and put it in a protective container. it is safe. it is locally still here. and it will be sent to the fbi and quantico, virginia, for forensic processing. but also important in the last few hours, they have found near the pub where the trash can was surveillance video. they have been combing that surveillance video to see what they see or who they see and trash pickup, the last trash pickup was on saturday at that particular trash can, but who put that backpack in that trash can is critical. chris? >> jean, thank you very much. a lot of this reporting is coming in very quickly as investigators are getting confident enough to release it. the big concern right now is to find the man or woman who made the bomb. why? because these bombs are made
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easily. they're made easily in large numbers and they were so somewhat randomly being distributed. what they're concerned about is if we don't get everybody involved right away, they made more of these bombs in some kind of panic. >> did see that person in the surveillance tape that they want to find. >> right now, let's bring in the mayor of elizabeth, new jersey. we know you're very busy and a lot of information coming in. thank you very much for joining us this morning. what do you want people to know? >> first of all, i want people to know that the area is extremely safe. the city of elizabeth is open for business and the schools are open. it's extremely important that people go about their normal day today. >> what do you know about the raids that are going on right now? there seems to be a lot of quick activity, coordinated efforts between state and federal. >> the response by the elizabeth police department and union county and as well as the fbi and the state police has been second to none. currently, we are on linden
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avenue and elmore avenue. the fbi is executing a search warrant and they'll be there for the next few hours going through this location to find any evidence possible whether it's in relation to this incident or the chelsea incident. we're confident that the fbi and the city of elizabeth and the state police will execute that search warrant to the best of their ability. >> what does it mean to you that investigators are reporting to us that they believe this may be part of a terror cell's activity that is located somewhere in new jersey. they believe maybe in elizabeth. >> well, no mayor wants to wake up and find out this news never mind last night when i was out here for a few hours. extremely important that the entire country faces these threats and no mayor is immune from it. we spend all day trying to protect our citizens and making sure that they have a better way of life. why there are few people in this country who would look to destroy that way of life. >> you are saying elizabeth is
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message you want to get out to - people to get life back to normal and disrupt the terrorist intent here of changing life. but at the same time, you got feds flying around trying to close down all the possibilities and different players who might be there. what is the balance of caution until all these bad guys are caught? >> well, the railroads have been opened. the amtrak and new jersey transit has opened up the train station here for people to get to and from their job. the schools are open. the police are doing their job. it's extremely important to recognize that the police have leads. they're going to follow those leads and they're going to make sure that the perpetrators are caught. >> have investigators been able to give you any degree of confidence that they know who are the number of people responsible for this? >> this is an ongoing investigation. as you've said earlier, it started with one person. it's going to continue. the police will follow every
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lead that they possibly can and then those leads will result in arrests in the future. >> all right, mr. mayor, thank you very much. as you get information that you believe is important for people to know, please, you know how to be in contact with us. we're happy to help in this situation. >> thank you for having me. >> absolutely. we'll turn from elizabeth now to that bombing that injured 29 people in new york city chelsea neighborhood. the fbi and the nypd stopping a "vehicle of interest" in brooklyn and questioning the people inside. jessica schneider is live at the scene of the new york city bombing with all the latest. what have you learned, jessica? >> alyison, we're learning that both of the devices here in manhattan were pressure cookers. the pressure cookers were packed with bbs and ball bearings and other metal fragments. we're learning the pressure cooker that was placed right here was partially placed underneath a dumpster which may have diminished the impact. of course, 29 people were
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injured. but the placement partially under the dumpster may have spared a lot more people. in addition, investigators are looking at two key pieces of video. in that video it shows one man in both the locations. the explosion location and where the pressure cooker was found unexploded. investigators say that the man had a duffel bag on wheels. it was here at west 23rd street and then he was seen with that same duffel bag four blocks north of here. and then two additional men entered the video. they went into the duffel bag and pulled out a white, plastic garbage bag and investigators believe that the pressure cooker that did not explode was in that garbage bag, as well. authorities are now looking to piece together other video from other surveillance cameras in the area to find out how those men might be related and how this all connects to the explosion on 23rd street here on saturday night. chris? >> that was one of the early confusing aspects of this investigation. the men took the white bag out that they believe had the pressure cooker in it and left
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with an empty duffel bag. so, were they part of it or just people happening by who wanted the duffel bag? investigators don't know yet, but they do now know so much more than they did earlier this morning. they believe they are working on breaking a terror cell. as a result, while they're trying to balance your local leaders saying business is usual, life is getting back, there is a huge rush of extra security, especially in and around the new york city area. you have to remember, the u.n. general assembly is also in session right now. cnn's brynn is outside the u.s. capitol right now and that is always a secure situation, but now even more so. >> definitely, chris. you just posed a number of questions that investigators are trying to answer and in that time they're trying to answer, be vigilant because we don't have those answers as of yet. be vigilant, everyone, not just the police. but there is extra layers of security, not just here at the u.n., but also at times square and other landmarks around the
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city and random locations, as well, including inside the subway systems where commuters are going to see more canine units and random bag checks. so, a lot of action being taken around the city to make sure that everyone is safe because, again, at this point no one under arrest for any of these incidents that have hand around the tri-state area. and that's why security definitely stepped up as of now here at the u.n. especially. chris? >> brynn, i'll take it. we'll go now from new york to minnesota and bring you the latest in the mall stabbing there. an isis wing claiming responsibility for that attack as the officer who took out the attacker is hailed as a hero. cnn's rosa flores is live for us in st. cloud, minnesota. give us the latest, rosa. >> tense moments saturday night in the mall that you see behind me. according to police, one man wearing a private security company uniform walked in, referenced the law, asked a few people if they were muslim
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before attacking them with a knife. now, authorities are not releasing the name of this individual, but they do say that by the end of the night, nine people had been stabbed. three of them are still in the hospital, including one with critical injuries. but authorities say it would have been so much worse if it weren't for one hero. they're hailing him a hero. an off-duty police officer from nearby avon. a man by the name of jason falkoner. authorities who watched the surveillance video, they say that the stabber was lunging towards this off-duty police officer and the police officer shot and killed him. now, now we're learning that the news agency linked to isis is claiming responsibility and, also, calling this suspect a soldier of isis. now, cnn can't independently confirm that, but the fbi, chris, is investigating this as
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an act of terrorism. >> absolutely. rosa, thank you very much. cnn has learned and investigators are looking into the possibility that the bombings in new york and new jersey are connected to a terror cell. up next, we got the new york governor and the new york city mayor about what they know about the investigation. how safe is their city and their state? next. i'm not a customer, but i'm calling about that credit scorecard. (to dog)give it. sure! it's free for everyone. oh! well that's nice! and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! (to dog)i'm so proud of you. well thank you. get your free credit scorecard at discover.com. even if you're not a customer. ♪
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a lot of breaking news for you. there is information about the bombings in new york and new jersey and shimon joins us now. shimon, i know you have been working your sources all morning. you have learned these three different locations were coordinated. >> they believe at least connected, somehow coordinated. they believe the people who were responsible for the bomb that went off in seaside park or that marine charity run. the location last night in elizabeth, new jersey, where several bombs, pipe bombs perhaps were located at a train station and, obviously, the chelsea situation on saturday are all connected. >> let's do this the right way. people are being flooded with information this morning. some of it is wrong and a lot of
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it is being taken out of sequence. let's begin at the beginning. they start with a very intense federal, state effort going over the video. similarities that are then confirmed by the forensics with the actual explosives. where does that lead them? >> they get a name. i will tell you, they get a name and i think a lot came from the pressure cooker that did not explode. >> in chelsea. >> in chelsea. a lot was learned from there because, again, they still had this thing. they had a ton of forensics that they were able to get off the pressure cooker. what that is, whether it's actual fingerprints or something else, we have not been told. but i think that, that played a key role in this investigation. >> they also saw someone on surveillance video at the scene where 29 people were injured in chelsea and then also at the scene four blocks away where that pressure cooker was found. >> this surveillance video. so, they first located surveillance video on 23rd street of a man kind of wheeling a duffel bag.
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they then, again, see him about 15 minutes later. first they see him about 7:50 saturday night and they see him -- >> before the explosion. >> before the explosion and they see him wheeling the duffel bag. they lose him somewhere in the area and then the explosion happens. about 15 minutes later or so, they see him on 27th street wheeling the same duffel bag, placing it down near where they would eventually found the pressure cooker. >> just to be clear for people, they found this on surveillance video. not like they had this guy in real time and he ended up getting away. this is all after the fact on videotape. then two men who enter this scene four blocks north of the initial explosion in chelsea. they come, they open the duffel bag and they take out a second bag that they now believe has this pressure cooker in it that they're using to get all this forensic information. they then leave with the duffel bag. >> correct. >> investigators believe it may
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have been a distraction. >> we don't know initially thinking these two men were not part of it. who knows where we are right now. perhaps maybe these two men were not part of it initial thinking. all they did was see the duffel bag and opened it, they opened it and a plastic white garbage bag and they take out the garbage bag which contained the pressure cooker and they leave it and then take the duffel bag and walk away. we don't know if investigators talked to them. we don't know if investigators have actually interviewed them, ruled them out. we don't know where they stand in the investigation right now. >> shimon, thank you very much. we appreciate all your reporting. we know you'll bring it to us throughout the rest of the programming. thanks so much. joining us now new york governor andrew cuomo. governor, thanks so much for being here. >> good to be with you, alyison. >> governor, what can you tell us about the latest in the investigation? shimon reporting that these
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attacks in new jersey and new york were coordinated and the work of a cell. what can you share? >> well, coordinated work of a cell. we know that, obviously, a number of bombings elizabeth, n new jersey, seaside park and chelsea area and similarities among the bombs. they're not all identical, but similar similarities with the way the bombs have put together suggesting that they might have been a common linkage or a common person behind all the bombs. individuals have been questioned. the investigation is proceeding rapidly. i wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't start to zero in on a particular individual. today even. and i wouldn't be surprised if we do find a foreign connection to the act. yesterday we were saying that, in my opinion, it was clearly an
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act of terrorism. it was a dangerous act. it appeared designed to intimidate civilian population and set two bombs in new york city and new jersey and that was an act of terrorism. the question is, was it foreign related? i think that answer might be coming today. >> and what would the answer be? i mean, in other words, are you close to concluding that, yes, this is an act of international terrorism? >> well, the investigation is proceeding rapidly and the evidence might suggest, and i don't want to get ahead of the investigation officially, but it might suggest a foreign connection to the action. which would then, obviously, raise an issue of the foreign nature of this attack. >> governor, i do want to ask you about what you were referencing and that is that you were quicker than some other politicians to label this an act of terrorism.
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and what gave you that confidence yesterday? >> well, yeah, the definition of terrorism is a dangerous act that endangers human life and that appears intended to coerce or intimidate a civilian population. you set off two bombs in new york city. that's terrorism. that is generic terrorism. the question becomes, is it foreign related? that's a second question. and yesterday we didn't have that information. but call it what it is. and, frankly, we're in the political silly season here with presidential politics. in some ways this is the political crazy season. and there was an overfascination and a gotcha game, i think, with what did hillary clinton call
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it. what did donald trump call it. and who called it what first. i'm the governor of new york. i'm concerned about new yorkers. i want them to have the facts. i want them to have the truth. i want to call it the way it is. i don't want to sugar coat it. but i also wanted to say, look, this is new york and these things happen. they have happened to us. 1993 world trade center bombing, 9/11. we understand what it is. we're going to be honest about it and we're going to get on with our life. we're not going to allow them to succeed. to succeed would be to intimidate new yorkers. we're not going to allow that to happen. new york is up and running today. subways are running. the roads are open. so, we are right back to business. and that's my message. also, that we have more security forces probably than ever in history right now. you know, we have the u.n.
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general assembly coming and president obama. i brought up another 1,000 state police and national guard. so, you will see more security. and that should make you feel better about the situation. but, it is what it is. that is the statement of the world. and i think when you are not direct with people, they sense it. especially new yorkers, frankly. and that's not the way i govern. >> governor, we understand there is a person of interest who was seen on surveillance video. we have not, in the public or media seen it. at the two sites, the one in chelsea where the bomb went off injuring 29 people and then four blocks away. what can you tell us about that person of interest? >> just that. you know, i was, i am the former attorney general of the state of new york. i participate in many of these investigations. and it's important that you allow the investigation to proceed without giving out too much information which could
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actually hurt the effort itself. >> yeah. >> but as i was saying before, alyison, there is a person, i believe the investigation is going to turn to focusing on a particular individual. >> yeah. >> and do you believe that -- >> that will give us more of an idea of the genesis. >> do you believe the fbi will be releasing any sort of wanted poster or image of that person today? >> that could occur. let me say that. now, i don't mean to be overly careful with words with you, but this is a sensitive time in the investigation. and i would not be surprised at all if they put out information to law enforcement about the person they're looking for. >> governor, we've heard what happened over the weekend described as the most successful terror attack in new york since 9/11. is that how you would characterize this?
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>> you know, i don't know, i don't even know what that means. you had bombs detonated. 29 people injured. thankfully no fatalities. to compare it to 9/11 is just, you know, absurd in some ways. but a bomb was detonated. the second bomb did not detonate. law enforcement was unprecedented in their response. we were seamless between the federal, state and city authorities. you know, my guess is the intention was to do more damage than they did. and the intention, again, of terrorism is to intimidate. is to coerce. and we're not going to allow that to happen. and we haven't allowed it to happen. this happened yesterday.
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today, alyison, we're back up and we're running. the subways are running and the stations are open. so, no, i don't believe they were successful. they were successful in detonating a bomb. they were not successful in intimidating or coercing new yorkers, which is the purpose of terrorism. that's what they want. they want to disrupt our lifestyle. they're offended by the freedom, offended by the democracy. and we're not going to let them do that. >> governor andrew cuomo, thank you for taking time with us this morning. we will be watching you all day with this investigation. all right, we do have some breaking news. >> we're getting some new reporting in that will fill in some of these holes. shimon, come back on to us now. there has been an advance. >> this man, a 28-year-old man. i don't have his name in front of me here. police have just released this photo. they are looking for him in connection, specifically, they say with the chelsea explosion.
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this is someone they want to question. he's 28 years old. i'm told he's from afghanistan. that is where authorities believe he was born. and they're now looking for him. this has gone out to all across new jersey and new york and police are actively and the fbi is actively searching for him now. >> is this the guy in the surveillance video? >> we don't know. i asked that specifically and no one has confirmed it or denied it. no one has told us anything. >> let us bring in the mayor right now. new york city mayor bill de blasio. thank you for joining us during this very busy time. it's important to get the information out there. the man on our screen right now to be a 28-year-old afghanistan of decent from afghanistan. now here in the u.s. authorities are looking for this man. is this what you've been told? >> that's right, chris. i'll give you a couple details here. a new jersey resident,
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28-year-old naturalized united states citizen. he is wanted for questioning. that photo is going out just now to the public as you said. want to be very clear this individual could be harmed and dangerous. anyone seeing him should call 911 immediately. we definitely have now someone we want taget in immediately for questioning. are they still saying this man was a part of a broader cell that was operating in new jersey? is this still their consistent theory? >> too early tasay o say if the something bigger. we know we want to get this individual in and what is important now and this is why we always want to make sure law enforcement defines each step of the way what we believe is happening. we need the facts to be able to piece all this together and define was it an individual. was it more than one individual,
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do these different incidents relate? i think we're going to know a lot more in the course of today. things are moving very quickly and, certainly, we're going to have a lot more to say in just the next coming hours. >> the idea of owhwhat the understanding is of what is going on. the reason they want this guy is they think he may have been not just the organizer, but the bombmaker and they're concerned about getting him so he can't find his way into other situations and create even more threat? >> i don't think we should assume too much. i think i can certainly read between the lines and law enforcement is making clear they want to get him and he may be armed and dangerous. i think it's fair to say this is the person we're most interested in at this moment. chris, very important point. people need to participate. law enforcement is doing an amazing job. a huge presence in the subways and around the u.n. for the general assembly and i believe this case is going to move very
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quickly and nypd and fbi are going to find the people who did it. but we need the public's help. we typically get a lot of information from the public that helps law enforcement. anyone who sees this individual or knows anything about him or his whereabouts needs to call it in right away. >> what is your message to the people? yes, this investigation is moving very quickly, and, yet, this is a situation that was missed by authorities, if it wasn't, in fact, an operating cell. what do you think should be the fear concern? >> i think the reality is that our federal partners and certainly the nypd for 15 years have done an extraordinary job of finding any individuals who might have had a plot in mind or thwarting plots as they were moving. we are in a different and more complex environment in terms of terror. we know there's going to be more attempts made. my point is people should have confidence, we have an extraordinary intelligence gathering apparatus between our
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federal partners and nypd and it's been growing in the last couple of years. i think people should have confidence that we're very well protected. but there will be moments like this. there will be moments when someone tries something. thank god there were no fatalities the other night and the important thing is to get this individual quickly and continue to be strong and vigilant. that is what we can do. but if you look at the history, the typical situation is any group that is attempting an attack is found out in time. >> so, obviously, now, there is always a concern about being deliberate and not getting ahead of the investigation. clearly investigators are treating this like what it seems as a terror situation. have they given you information about continued concern that there may be other bombs that have been placed and people should be unusually alert to see something and say something? >> not in the sense, chris, that there is a specific description
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of something to look for. but i think the way you said it is right. new yorkers and all people should be vigilant and should never assume. if you see a suspicious-looking package, we need to know about it right away. that's the bottom line. if you overhear a conversation where someone seems to be discussing a, the public needs to understand how crucial, the public can provide some of the key ingredients to help law enforcement finish this case and be able to protect people going forward. but the bottom line today, be vigilant. if you see something unusual, particularly unusual package, we need it reported right away. don't explain it away and assume it's nothing, we want to know about it right away. >> what a fersday on the job for o'neil. how confident are they that he
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is the man they want to zero in on the potential bombmaker? >> i don't want to speak to that conclusion. they're confident they need to get him in and question him and in the last moment put out a photo that shows real confidence on the part of law enforcement that this is someone that is likely involved in one way or another. but we shouldn't speculate yet how many people and what role each person played. again, my experience with the nypd and the fbi is once they zero in on someone they will get them. >> how confident are they that they have the hands around the scope of this cell? any confidence that they know how many people are involved and how many people they're still looking for? >> chris, i would be careful in using the word cell. i understand it's a way to describe something. i would be careful. we do not know yet if it is only one individual, more than one individual or if it is an organized group or not. we should not assume that yet.
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but we know we've got one person we need to talk to. as we talk to this individual and, again, i have a high level of confidence that law enforcement will bring them in. we're going to be able to then start to have more knowledge of what happened here and if there were additional people involved. >> mr. mayor, we'll stay in touch with you and your office. thank you for joining us on "new day." keep organizing the reporting coming in. we'll take a quick break and come back on the reporting. >> more on the breaking news. stick around. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ the highly advanced audi a4. ♪
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on the reporting. we have talked to the governor and we have talked to the governor. in realtime, shimon, they're worried about operational things and getting the right resources and reporting, often, is a secondary concern. is it still the case that investigators are looking at a group that they're not sure what the size is, but they are treating it as a cell centered in new jersey and the man we'll put up on the screen is the most wanted right now and for what reason? >> so, all that we've been told is that this man is specifically wanted in connection with the chelsea explosion. what his role was in that we're still working through and still trying to confirm. but they are looking for him. it's pretty significant that they have released this photo, which really means they don't know where he is. we were told last night that they had some idea of where this man was, but now it seems they don't know where it is. perhaps he's on the run and he's hiding somewhere. this has sort of escalated the whole investigation now. for them to release this photo, it's pretty significant. >> let's give the public more
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information. he's 28 years old and originally from afghanistan and naturalized citizen and you know his name, as well. they want to get this person off the street and get information from him. >> there is some concern. they are saying he could be armed and dangerous if, in fact, he was the man seen on that surveillance video we're still working through that and confirm that. but clearly something here has folks concerned and law enforcement enough to put out his photo. they have been hesitant to identify publicly identify anyone because they have all along have told us that they have pretty good control over this. they knew where everyone was and they knew who they were looking for. it seems now something has changed. >> well, often, you know, they have to make the calculationcal. when they puout his face, a sense of urgency. do you think they have their hands around the number of people involved yet or is this is still an active hunt? >> i think it's still an active hunt. i think they feel pretty confident they know. last count we were told perhaps
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under a dozen is what they were looking at. they wouldn't give us any specific numbers but they seem to be confident that they know how big of a group this may be. >> thank you for all of that. we'll call you back as soon as you have another lead. we want to bring in our panel cnn political commentator and former donald trump campaign manager cory still receiving severance from the trump campaign and commentator and former new york city council representative for chelsea christine quin. this, obviously, hits close to home for you. >> a friend of mine was hit by debris and is out of the hospital and doing fine, but just walking to garden of eden to get a bite to eat for dinner -- >> this destroys and disrupts everyone's sort of sense of peace and lives and that brings us to the political race. donald trump was just on another morning show and he said that he expects more terror attacks. let me play that moment for you.
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>> it's a mess and it's a shame and we are going to have to be very tough. i think maybe we're going to be seeing a big change over the last couple of days. i think this is something that maybe we'll get, will happen perhaps more and more all over the country. >> what do you mean? more terror strikes? >> yeah, because we've been weak. our country has been weak and we're letting people in by the thousands and tens of thousands. >> cory, to suggest that there would be more and more terror attacks across the country, is that the right tone for a morning like this? >> well, i think what it is, it rehi rehighlights the problem we have with our immigration system. what we hear from the reports this morning is that this person is either potentially of afghani decent -- >> a naturalized citizen. >> he's a naturalized citizen. >> if that's the case -- >> not a refugee. >> was the proper work done?
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look, don't forget, the san bernardino killer came in on a k-1 visa. >> this is different. you're making a connection we don't know yet. >> what donald trump has said and what he has said from the beginning we want to make sure our immigration policy is such that we don't have potential terrorists coming here first and foremost. that is very important. >> what it sounds like he is doing. this is what i want your take on. it sounds like he's trying to make the most of the potential bad news in this situation. that's okay as long as it's based on an understanding of a new threat. you can always change your feelings about things as facts change. what does he know about this situation that justifies in any way an understanding of increased threat from what existed three days ago? >> specifically. >> i haven't been part of his security briefings and neither he nor hillary clinton have received that. i don't know what the briefings entitl entitled. we want to be strong and root out terrorism in our country. so, what he has said is we need
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a president who is going to be tough and firm and make sure our borders are secure and protect our people. my number one job for the president of the united states protect our people both here and abroad. >> go ahead. >> i actually find this incredibly sad dawned trump's behavior. what you want in a moment like this is leaders who will give you the truth in a fact-based way and what has been said earlier in the show we know as new yorkers and americans sometimes you have to wait for that info because investigators need to do their job. what we need is calm, strong leaders who give us the facts, help us deal with those facts and then take the facts in the position they're in or they want in this case and develop a plan that respond, capture perpetrators and learn from that incident and make us safer moving forward. what we see here is, again, what we've seen time and time again with donald trump and his supporters. they ignore the facts. the person who did this is
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horrible person. we know is a naturalized citizen. that doesn't make him less of an evil, evil person but then to make this about immigration is factually untrue. the manipulating, horrible situation for political means. what we want the president of the united states to be is exactly the opposite of that. that is manipulation for self-gain and the last thing this country needs at times like these. >> since we don't know facts yet, what about quelling the anxiety instead of stoking the anxiety. fdr, there is nothing to fear but fear itself. that sort of leadership. >> donald trump has been very clear. if he's elected president, he will do everything possible and make sure all the resources are available so we don't have any more terror attacks in our country. >> how would he stamp out home-grown terror when all the police are trying to find these cells. >> the police are doing their job and i think they're doing a
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great job, of course. if we are allowing people into the country. >> the police doing a bad job. >> if we're allowing people to come into the country who have an opportunity to commit a terrorist attack because we haven't done a proper vetting of theads pe these people -- it might apply here. we don't know. the k1 visa woman the state department do a check on this person? >> you go through a lot more than this person did. >> two things here, i don't know why cory said this is an example. i don't know the exact phrasing a time when the police have done good work. i don't think this is a time for anyone in public life, yourself or anyone affilulaiated with th trump campaign to criticize first responders. >> i said they're doing great work. i was a police officer, please don't question me. you didn't put a badge on and carry a gun and put your life in danger.
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>> i'm not questioning your commitment -- you should go look at the tape because you have an inappropriate wording. let me say -- >> bottom line, the police are doing a great job and they're going to find the individual and the perpetrator. >> again, corey takes this tragedy that could have been so much worse, but it is a tragedy for everyone who experienced it and manipulates it to immigration when there is no evidence here, if we find out a bad naturalization is done, then it's different. today let's not cause panic in america where they're going to think all these terrorists are getting in. we don't know that. >> christine, here is the middle ground. all politicians talk in these situations and use them as opportunities, especially when they're running. it is no irony that we heard more from clinton and trump than we have from obama. he is the only person right now who has to make sure he gets everything right. there is a different standard
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for candidates. >> there shouldn't be. >> trump has been doing it in more inflammatory fashion, that's his style. the real problem is, who is going to make the better case to american people how do you make this less likely to happen the next time. >> it isn't about style. that lets donald trump off the hook. he is putting information out that is not fact based. >> how do you know that? >> he said it was a bomb before it was confirmed. >> it was a bomb. how do you know he didn't know that? >> because i know -- >> hillary clinton was -- how do you know -- >> why say there's going to be more? no other actual elected official or fbi or police -- >> some people say he's just speaking the truth. >> that's what it is about. >> he is a leader whether he's the president or not. he is a major party's nominee. and in that case, he should assume a position of stature and strength for the country
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>> he said a bomb went off in new york. and guess what a bomb went off in new york. >> he said more about come. >> let's leave the politics to the side. more reporting coming in right now. there is an active manhunt for the man that authorities find to be the most important in what happened specifically in new york city. this is the man on your screen. all right. we're also going to be covering everything else that's happening around the world in terms of the fight of terror abroad. we had an air incident over the weekend. there was a bombing, syrian soldiers wound up being hurt and killed in it. it really destabilized the political situation, especially between russia and the u.s. we have a former top state department official, going to take us through the new state of play. rare and magical fruit. which provided for their every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye,
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all right. let's put the picture up of the man that authorities are looking for. you have city, state and federal officials all focused on him. ahmad khan rahami. his last known address, elizabeth, new jersey. whereabouts right now, unnobody. if you see him, if you see somebody who looks like him, do not err on the side of caution here. he could be armed and dangerous.
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stay away. but call. call. what number? 800-577-tips. 800-577-ti 800-577-tips. if you think you see something say something. make the phone call. all right. let's now shift to the fight against terror abroad. we have former ambassador wendy sherman currently a senior counselor at albright stone bridge group. she was the former -- she is the former undersecretary of state for political affairs, was involved in both iran and north korean nuclear negotiation. thanks for being with us. you got the u.n. general assembly going on. there's going to be a big issue of discussion. coalition air strikes have been a big, big concern. here, in iraq, why? because you can't be 100% precise. now we hear that a big bunch of syrian soldiers were killed, as many as 60, many more injured. it's going to bring this issue into sharp relief. but, how so? i mean, what will being the debate here? >> i think the debate that's
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going to go on here is whether, in fact, this cease-fire that was brokered between the united states by secretary kerry, and minister lavrov from russia will hold. and whether, in fact, we will end up with joint military operations to go after the terror. you know you've had a lot of discussion this morning about the circumstances here in new york. and i can tell you that i have enormous confidence in our authorities, i know secretary clinton does, as well, secretary kerry, president obama, to, in fact, find this person to find whatever is going on here. but the real effort is a multivector effort that is the war in syria, going after terrorists where they are, making sure that we're securing the homeland. it is about propaganda. and what we're doing on the internet. our work with silicon valley. secretary clinton has called for an intelligence surge because we really need to know what's going on. there's a lot of work to be done here. and in syria we need to fight on both fronts, both to stop the terrorism, and assad, who's
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broken his contract with his own people, really is not sustainable. >> let's get your head on what's going on here right now. >> people are waking up to learn that federal authorities believe that there may have been an active cell operating in northern new jersey. a populated area, a place that's now immigrant rich. they're going to be afraid. we're going to say we don't have our hands around the threat. is that a fair criticism? >> well i think we heard from governor cuomo this morning really what this is about. which is to inflict terror on us. to undermine our democracy, undermine who we are, what our values are, so yes we have to see something, say something. we have to be thoughtful about what we do every day. we have to look at our policies. but we have to make sure that we elect in this election a president who is calm, together, understands the world in my view of course that's secretary clinton because we've got to have someone who works from the facts very quickly to make sure that we're secure but we're also challenging and working with others abroad. can you imagine, chris, if
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donald trump tries to build a coalition of gulf states after saying he doesn't want any of them in our country? it literally impossible. so we've got to have good immigration laws. we have to have a way forward. screen carefully. which we do. but what we really have to do is have a multivector strategy going forward and know what we're about. >> but, wendy, look at it from the perspective of the voter for a second. clinton comes out, she says we have to know what's going on. this is not good, as we learn more we have to harden up the situation. the new york governor, the new york mayor, they echo those sentiments, they're a little bit more urgent because they're actually coordinating the search right now. >> right. >> trump says, this is a mess, they didn't know what was going on, there's going to be more of this, we have to get stronger. which one of those responses lines up with how people feel watching this this morning? you could easily argue trump? >> sure. i understand why the american people, all of us, are anxious. we're all here in new york. we're walking the streets here
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in new york. but i have enormous confidence in the authorities here that we will find this man. we will find what is going on. we will undo this. and i think our surveillance is spectacular. that's why we have the photograph of this man less than 24 hours -- >> but you also had a cell operating in new jersey, according to authorities. >> it appears that is to be the case. and my guess is there are other cells in this country inspired by what is happening abroad and that's why it is not enough just to deal with the situaton in hand which we must and we are. but we have to go to the root causes of this and to say, let's get tough. i think president obama has been tough. i think secretary clinton has been tough. she was an advocate to go after osama bin laden to take the head off of the cell of al qaeda. that was very effective. we have gone after al qaeda in an effective way. we are doing the same thingisil, with isis, daesh, whatever you want to call them. we've got to keep the word going but it is hard work. it's going to take time. we have to deal with the terror that people feel but as governor
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cuomo said you can't let the terror get hold of our lives and decide that we're going to give up our freedom, our democracy and who we are as the american people. >> wendy sherman, appreciate your perspective. >> thank you. >> there is new information coming in right now. we have breaking coverage on the bombings in new york and new jersey. let's get right to it. >> this is cnn breaking news. welcome our viewers in the u.s. and around the world who are watching "new day." we do have a major breaking story at this hour. there's a massive manhunt under way for the man police are looking for that may be behind the bombing in new york city and two other bombings in new jersey. his picture is on your screen now. >> all right. his name is there as well. his last known address was in elizabeth, new jersey. he is 28 years old. the fbi kauxs this man could be armed and dangerous. if you see him, you see someone who looks like him, this is not the time to play it safe, except with your own personal safety. stay away. do not engage.
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