in to fear. >> he will be ten care of by some of the best doctors in the world and he'll probably even have room service. >> welcome to america. you have a right to counsel and you have a right to hospitalization. that is our system. >> this is a sobering reminder that we need steady leadership in a dangerous world. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." we have new details about the man thought of setting off bombs in new york and new jersey. a trail of clues leading them to capture rahmi. >> only after a gun battle with police. he's now charged with attempted murder of police officers. we just learned new information about a person authorities want to talk to in connection with these attacks. we have complete coverage. let's begin with cnn justice correspondent evan perez.

>> reporter: chris and alisyn, he was unco-op poperative in hi first hours of capture. a note recovered by investigators contain handwritten ramblings that included information about the boston bombers. his wife left the u.s. a few days before the bombings. the fbi is working with authorities in the united arab emirates to question her about what she may know. law enforcement officials say that the suspect was seen on surveillance video near both locations hauling a duffle bag. now 27th street in manhattan, he was seen leaving the bag behind. two men then take the bag, but first they remove what turns out to be the pressure cooker bomb that did not explode. surveillance video along with fingerprints and records of cell phones that he bought were the key pieces of evidence that led to the arrest of the suspect. at this point investigators

believe that he was a lone bomb maker, but they are still looking at whether or not he received help from others. local prosecutors in union county new jersey filed the first charges for attempted murder of five police officers after a shootout that led to his arrest. federal prosecutors in manhattan and new jersey are now building their case for charges that are expected in the coming weeks. now this case has already led to some people in congress to renew their argument that u.s. citizens charged in these terrorism cases should be charged as enemy combatants. alisyn? >> we'll be speaking about that in this hour. he was captured four hours after police identified him and released his photo. there's this treasure trove of evidence from surveillance video. they also got his fingerprints and dna at the bombing scenes so all of that led investigators to his arrest. the last break in the case came from a new jersey bar owner. cnn's ed laf ven dara joins us

from the scene. tell us that story, ed. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. here 23rd street is opened back up, the sight of the bonling beyond the white truck that has pulled up as the street has re-opened. as you mentioned, a lot of key evidence about four blocks north of where we are. that is where that fingerprint was found and that is what led to the quick response to find rahami. they found the fingerprint at about 7:30 -- >> all right. we'll get back to ed lavandera when we get his feedback there of the new york and new jersey bombings that we have been covering here. the suspect, it's important to note, was not on the radar of investigators as someone they were tracking as possible to be radicalized. a law enforcement official tells cnn that he visited afghanistan and pakistan extensively for extensive periods of time and one of the areas is a taliban

strong hold. that's a little bit of a curveball. let's get to cnn's jessica snyder live in new jersey with more of what we know about the suspect's travels. jessica. >> reporter: well, chris, we know that rahami traveled overseas multiple times between 2011 and 2014. u.s. immigration officials never flagged him. federal investigators want to know was rahami in fact radicalized. this is 28-year-old ahma ahmad kahn rahami, the suspect behind a series of bombings in new york and new jersey. >> i spoke to him a couple of weeks ago. how are you doing? how's your daughter? he looked a little stressed out but nothing of concern. >> reporter: born in afghanistan, he traveled back and forth between there and neighboring pakistan. >> his father wanted him to go back there and get to know his roots. >> reporter: most recenently he took a year long visit to pakistan from april 2013 to march 2014.

while there a facebook photo shows the suspected bomber and hess brother muhammad relaxing in traditional clothing. in 2011 he spent 20 weeks in querto, pakistan. he got married. >> he's a very friendly guy. you'd never suspect this. terrified. he's hiding in plain sight. you would never know. >> rahami underwent secondary screenings upon returning to the u.s. because of the area he visited but was never flagged. the bombing suspect had a run-in with the law before he was arrested in 2014 on weapons and aggravated assault charges though grand jury declined to indict him. his family came to the country seeking asylum decades ago. now they own a fried chicken restaurant in elizabeth, new jersey, and they live above it.

>> the city of elizabeth and the police department. the suit alleges that a neighbor told him muslims don't belong here and they were threatened and harassed by police officers. >> reporter: they're denying any connection to rahami. right now police maintain the perimeter outside the family home and throughout the morning and overnight hours we have seen federal investigators going in and out of the home where rahami's family lives and operated that fried chicken restaurant just below their home. alisyn? >> jessica, thank you for all of that reporting. joining us on the phone is new york governor andrew cuomo. thank you for being here.

>> pleasure to be here. how are you doing? >> i'm doing well. i know you're doing well. 24 hours ago i don't think either of us knew at that time that his capture would be quite as swift as it was yesterday. >> it was really a remarkable situation when you think about it. it has been really educational 48 hours. it's been up and down but i think if we had said when we first chatted, alisyn, that this was going to come to a conclusion this quickly, none of us would have believed it. it's a statement of the time. we have gotten so sophisticated in law enforcement, especially in new york. we had a great coordinated approach. the president was very helpful in dispatching the top fbi agents. we had the state police. we had the new york pd and it is a very sophisticated operation now. your reporting has done a very good job on it, but the

unexploded bombs had evidence. >> yeah. >> obviously when the bomb explodes it's one thing, but you had the fingerprints, you had the dna, you had the surveillance video, and then as you said you have modern media that puts the picture out so quickly and law enforcement, police, god bless them, did a great heads up job. got the man. >> right. and then thank goodness for all of the new yorkers and the guy in new jersey, the bar owner who saw something and decided to call 911. governor, we have some new reporting. cnn has a lot of new reporting and i'm wondering if you can help expand on some of it. number one, do you know anything about the wife? this guy had gotten married in pakistan. he brought his wife from pakistan over to the u.s., and cnn has learned that she left back for pakistan just days before the bombings. any more information or intel on that? >> on the wife specifically, no,

alisyn, but as you've been reporting, there is something to learn in this case of what radicalized rahami when -- should we have learned something from where he was and when he came back and went through screenings, but should those screenings be improved? the investigation is pursuing that course. we also want to find out what to me is even more urgent, did he have associates that he was working with here or was he on his own. you see other people accompanying him in that area and that, to me, is of prime importance. is there anyone else out there that could pose a danger. so they're going down both tracks simultaneously. for rahami himself and more pressing possibly was there anyone working with him. >> and what about that,

governor? what is your thought on whether or not he could have pulled off these ten different bombs planted at all different sites in different states, do you think that he had help? >> you know, it is possible that he did, and that is a predominant operating theory. it's also being tested in a serious investigation. we just want to make sure there's no others like this mantha could be a potential threat. they're quite exhaustive in that review. >> during this guy's capture there was a gun battle with police, and at least two police officers were injured during this. and then here's the video, governor. you see the suspect, he's loaded on a stretcher there. in a minute he's about to be loaded into an ambulance. he's going to be taken to one of our finest hospitals. obviously he's going to be treated for his injuries along with the police officers who are treated for their injuries.

you know, donald trump made the point that why does he get equal treatment with the police officers that he injured? so let me play for you what donald trump said about this. >> now we will give him amazing hospitalization. he will be taken care of by some of the best doctors in the world. he will be given a fully modern and updated hospital room. and he'll probably even have room service knowing the way our country is. and on top of all of that, he will be represented by an outstanding lawyer. >> governor, you heard the people there booing. that makes the crowd angry. what's your response to what trump says? >> you know, alisyn, no one has felt this more strongly than i have. this is my worst nightmare as

governor of new york. we were very lucky that when the bomb went off 29 people were hurt, nobody was killed thankfully. so no one feels this more than i feel it, okay? and the first responders are my first responders and my friends, but -- but i understand the anger, and i understand the anger that donald trump is speaking of. this is america, and this is our system and you are innocent until proven guilty and you have a right to counsel, and that is the constitution of the united states of america. and that is what makes us who we are. that's what makes us special. and if you give that up, alisyn, then you have defeated yourself. that is the code of democracy and freedom. that is what they repent about

us. so don't lose your soul in the process. that is the soul of america. we believe we have the right man. we believe he was on the surveillance video. yes, we believe that's his fingerprint. you know what, i was attorney general. i was an assistant district attorney. maybe the government is wrong. it's possible, and that's why you have a trial. so while we should condemn him on the spot, secondary hospital care, leave him on the street and whatever happens happens. that's not who we are. that's not who we want to be. and that's not how we defeat the terrorists. we defeat the terrorists by staying true to who we are. >> governor, one last question. a little palace intrigue before we let you go. you were very quick to call this terrorism. already this weekend you were labeling this attack as

terrorism. as you know, new york city mayor, bill de blasio, was reluctant to label it as such. some people are wondering if there's a rift between you two as a result of that or even predating this. how's the -- is there some tension between you two? >> look, i don't think you could have had better coordination between the city and the state than you had here. the president, the federal government was fantastic. the fbi, we all worked hand in glove, and the city and the state and myself with the mayor. i called it terrorism because i believed it was terrorism, and it turned out to be terrorism. i think the question was whether or not it was international terrorism. was there an international connection? and that wasn't clear early on, and it's a line of questioning that is still being pursued, but i think it was a semantics -- difference of semantics more than anything else between between myself and the mayor. i called it terrorism and he

called it an intentional act, i think, but those are just words. we worked hand in glove. you couldn't have worked better than we worked together. >> governor andrew cuomo, we appreciate you being here. thanks so much. >> pleasure, alisyn. thank you. >> chris? we have a new homeland security report that's expected to add fuel to the immigration debate. it shows more than 800 people potentially ineligible for u.s. citizenship were mistakenly allowed in based on incomplete fingerprint records. cnn's tom foreman is live in washington with more. what did you learn about this in terms of the scale of concern? >> i learned a lot of people aren't very happy about it, chris. one explosive line, this new report lays out a potential security breakdown. here it is. the federal government granted u.s. citizenship to at least 858 citizens ordered deported or removed. so how did this happen? investigators found hundreds of people who were supposed to be

deported simply came up with new names and birth dates, side stepping the removal orders. it happened because some old paper fingerprint records have not been digitized and so were not readily available to immigration officials. the report found three of these people received credentials which have since been revoked to work in secure areas in commercial airports, in shipping and another, quote, is now a law enforcement official. in fact, as citizens they can now be, quote, sponsoring other aliens entry into the united states. homeland security says, no, not all of these people represent any kind of threat, but the investigators point out that few of these people have actually been located and looked into, and 148,000 other old fingerprints have yet to be processed, meaning it could all happen again. alisyn? >> okay. that's important to know. that is a vulnerability that they should fix. tom, thank you very much for all of your reporting on that. so there are growing concerns in the muslim

community, of course, about potential backlash after these terror attacks. congressman keith ellison, muslim who represents minnesota, joins us next. ♪ ♪ ♪ the highly advanced audi a4. ♪

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authorities identified the man who attacked several people with a knife at a minnesota mall on saturday as 22-year-old dahir adan, a somali refugee who moved to the u.s. as a baby. the incident raising concerns

about anti-muslim backlash. joining us is keith ellison. i am sorry for your community and for the first responders that have been victimized by this situation. >> thank you. >> congressman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, chris, for that kind sentiment. i'll tell you, we have to condemn this horrible, senseless act, but also commend officer falconer who responded and stopped the attacker. you know, the community that has come together around this incident, they had an inner faith event yesterday and they're going to keep on pulling together and not letting these people tear us apart. >> there's no reason to dance around it. you know what an event like this does. >> of course. >> it raises the voices who say, you see? you see? these muslims, they have it out for us. >> right. >> there is something wrong with these people. we see it again and again. what's your response? >> well, my response is sadly,

unfortunately there's a lot of people with all kind of motivations who commit senseless acts of violence. this is one of them, and certainly we have to condemn it but, you know, whether it's sandy hook, or orlando, or any number of events that have happened where we have catastrophic violence happen, we have to stand together and be against all of them no matter what the particular motivation of the killer might be. understand this, when people commit acts of terror, they're trying to terrorize you. what happens when you are terrorized? well, you stop thinking as well as you should. you stop thinking about all the possibilities. you get angry at a group that may share a characteristic with the other one. you turn on them. you give up your civil rights and your civil liberties. you say, we can't have any of that. you start treating due process as a nicety and you start over surveilling. part of what the terrorist's community -- is to push the

community towards cannibalization of itself which is something we can never allow to happen. we have to be careful. we have to adhere to our core values. investigate this thing. make sure we know everything we can about it, heal the community, come together and, you know, i think, you know, we've got a police chief named blaire anderson in saint cloud. what a tremendous public servant he is. he's already saying, look, i'm handling this thing as a law enforcement officer. build great relationships with your whole community, including the east african community, and part of the best defense is to have good relations so that you can get the intelligence that you need. >> what do you hear within the muslim community, and in your community there in minnesota, about how to deal with the radicalized group of the faith? >> well, mostly in response to

these horrible incidents people just have sympathy for the victims and gratitude towards the first responders. that's where people are coming from. people -- you go talk to people in the muslim community and they say, oh, my god, those people must have been terrified. i'm so sorry that this happened. and then they say, you know, what a brave guy officer falconer was, what a great public servant chief anderson is, and then we start thinking about backlash because we know that there will be some people who are going to take the bait of the terrorists and say, this is about the muslim community, the somalis, the immigrants. it's not about that. we see horrible violence committed by people who were born here, people who were not. people who were muslim, people who were not. all this stuff. and the answer really is to come together as a community, to be vigilant, to share information and to never let them forget who

we are and what we're about. and that -- and so america's a pluralistic, inclusive society. we're not going to stop being that because some horrible person decided to commit an atrocious act. >> congressman ellison, thank you for joining us on "new day." please keep us apprised of the situation there in minnesota. >> yes, sir, chris. thank you. >> be well. al list s alisyn? new information cnn has learned that could affect the investigation of the bombing next. prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market.

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president clinton speaking out about rahami. the bombing suspect's wife left the u.s. days before the bombings. we'll discuss with former cia official phil mud. evan perez and cnn terrorism analyst and editor in the chief, paul crook shank.

>> what do we know about the wife? >> the wife left the united states a few days before the new jersey and the new york bombings, so now the fbi's looking to work with uae authorities and pakistani authorities. she's pakistani descent to try to talk to her. they want to know what she might have known before she left. >> is she back in pakistan? >> we don't know if she's in the uae or made it back to pakistan. the fbi is expecting they're going to be able to question her and ask her what she knew, whether she saw anything that might have raised some concerns. that will help put together a picture of what happened before this. >> what are your circles of curiosity as you're taking a look at this case and you want to expand your understanding of why he did this and who might have helped him? >> people typically look at the center of the circle, individual or individuals that committed the attack. got to go at least two levels out. the second level is are there people who supported that attack. go down the list of what they

might have supplied, money, documents, radicalization. then a third tier, was there somebody who should have done the see something, say something. pick up the phone and say i'm worried in this case that my husband might be doing something wrong. the question here might not be was she a co-con spiritor. the question is did you knowing? in that case she neas trouble. >> was he radicalized or disgruntl disgruntled. he worked for his family's fast food chicken restaurant. they were always having issues with the neighbors and with the law. he had a domestic violence, a couple of them, issues in the past. what are you learning about whether or not he had gone overseas and actually gotten some sort of official training and become radicalized? >> we don't have a full picture yet of the degree to which he had become radicalized, but some of those musings in that note about the boston bomber suggest he was influenced by radical islamist ideology. they're examining the overseas

trip, the length of stay in pakistan between 2013 and 2014. whether he might have had the opportunity to join up and get some kind of training. i've got to say that as we learn more about the pressure cooker bombs. these were different. the power of the nycha te, it would have packed a power full punch. they're managing to do this without getting that training overseas. there have been a few where they managed to get the instructions off the internet and build this powerful detonating substance but not many cases. so that may point to some overseas training given the bombs. >> a curveball, while the taliban while we have had some impact from them in this country, not very much. they deny knowing who this guy is. that's unusual also. >> that's the afghan taliban.

there are plenty of other taliban out there. the pakistani taliban have an issue and they were the ones who were behind that times square bombing attempt, that car bomb in times square. they trained and directed him and communicated with him for that attack. >> and the u.s. has carried out drone strikes against that group so that's still an open question. >> evan, senator lindsey graham is calling for this guy to be considered an enemy combatant. in this case he wouldn't be given his miranda rights. where are you at? >> the issue is the critics would say you must spend more time questioning him before you read him the miranda rights and give him his legal rights. yesterday he was uncooperative. but yet he had surgeries for three different bullet wounds. he hasn't been mirandised. they expect they'll talk to him today. there's always a wrinkle. his family could get a lawyer and try to stop this.

we've seen from previous cases that they have been able to get plenty of intelligence from these guys before you start the legal process. and even after you mirandise them you find that they sometimes talk. the process that we have again, a couple hundred years of experience in our legal system, shows that it does work. i'm not sure that we want to change that just yet. >> isis winds up being something everybody wants to know about right away in this. >> yes. yes. >> there's this curveball he was hanging out in taliban areas, may have radicalized his letters, what's your nose on this? >> i'm looking at this saying isis wasn't around in pakistan when he was there. i think we're trying to make this too simple. was this isis, was it taliban? try a different perspective. he goes out to pakistan, his family, they talk about american operations in afghanistan. they talk about drone operations that kill civilians. he comes back home, maybe he's disaffected in the neighborhood. he's in a restaurant, for example, where we see from legal

3r0edings there are questions about muslims in the neighborhood. i think we're trying to say isis, not isis. taliban, not taliban. sounds to me like we've got somebody who's disaffected in several areas and decided for some reason it's time to move. >> i think investigators right now the picture emerging is somebody who might have a mix of ideologies that might have in1350ii inspired him. we sometimes immediately go to isis. so far nothing has emerged of the hallmarks of isis. usually these guys leave behind something. they're very proud of the isis claim and isis is usually very quick, especially if they've gotten something on social media saying we're doing this in the name of. we haven't seen any of those things. the more time that passes tells us that perhaps it's a little bit more complicated. >> yeah. they claimed a link to the -- >> minnesota. >> -- minnesota attack. they stopped that. deafening silence. at this point pretty unlikely that there was any isis link, any sort of communication back and forth.

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about an hour from now president obama will deliver his final address before the united nations general assembly as president of the united states. white house correspond department michelle kosinski is live at the white house with a preview. good morning, michelle. what's he going to say? >> reporter: hey, alisyn. we've seen him on his farewell tour. this is his farewell speech. this is the last time we'll see him in this venue speaking to the world. he is going to speak to legacy. he feels his approach of greater international diplomacy have accomplished much when you look at the paris climate deal, nuclear deal, coalition against isis. he'll make the case that those examples will be templates moving forward in solving the big problems that still haven't been solved through diplomacy. north korea and russia. he's doing this in the context

of additional terror attacks on american soil. we've heard him, you know, in the very city where this happened say while he's here that the biggest ingredient for fighting terrorism will be not giving in to fear. so we may well hear him reiterate that today and address the spector of terrorism. fighting terror will take a lot more than that. chris? >> it's one of the things people want most and for that reason they exaggerate it to the simple when it is very complex. thank you very much, michelle kosinski. hillary clinton poking fun at a budding political bromance. host jimmy fallon uses donald trump's liking of vladimir putin. >> this is a framed photo of his wife. that's not -- >> no, that's not -- are you sure? >> yeah, the most famous bromance going, right? >> besides me and timberlake.

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we're going after the bad guys and we're going to get them but we're not going to go after an entire religion and give isis exactly what it's wanting in order for them to enhance their position. >> but i'm not using the term muslim, i'm saying you're going to have to profile them. we're going to have to start profiling. i don't know if it's that bad, but certainly it's not a wonderful thing. >> profile who? who was he talking about profiling? hillary clinton and donald trump both say they know how to prevent future terror attacks at home and abroad. whose strategy against terror is stronger? let's discuss. we have cnn political analyst kirsten powers and cnn political commentator s.e. cupp. sarah elizabeth, who is he talking about? who are you going to profile? if not muslims and arab men specifically, who's he going to profile? >> that's a great question. i think it's pretty clear that

trump hasn't really thought this out to its logical conclusion. he started with a blanket ban on muslims that changed to a ban on people from regions where terrorism is sort of a big thing and now he's just talking about generic profiling. on the other hand, i'm not sure we fully know what hillary clinton means when she says we're going to go after the bad guys. how? in what ways? she has said in a number of cases that she's basically going to continue the policies of the obama administration. well, i don't know that that's reassuring to a lot of people. and her claim that isis is praying for trump to win really kind of defies logic. isis has thrived under the previous -- the current administration, and if she plans to continue those same policies, i think isis would be praying for more of the same. so i think both candidates have been very sort of muscular in their rhetoric on terror but very weak when it comes to

specific. >> kirsten, your impression of their different plans? >> well, i mean, so trump says he's going to knock the hell out of them, right? that's essentially what the administration has been doing. we've had 10,000 airstrikes against isis in iraq, and so they actually have lost territory. it's true that under the administration they've expanded, but since we really started this targeting attack on them they've lost territory. so what hillary has said is she is going to be probably a little more hawkish than the president. she wants to increase the number of airstrikes. she wants to continue providing aid to people on the ground. compare that to trump, we don't really have any specifics except for the fact what is he saying is going to differ. >> he is saying profiling. >> i'm talking in terms of military strategy. so, then, yes, let's add in he wants to basically ban muslims from america. he's treating this as an immigration problem, which it patently is not. this is not an immigration problem. the people who are doing these attacks for the most part are american citizens. this is not an issue of people sneaking into the country.

for the most part they're ear heert because they were born here or they are here on an overstayed visa, with the exception -- there's an exception here and there where the attacker in minnesota came here as a child. >> the guy here, too, came here as a child and became a nationalized citizen. donald trump is saying stop those things. >> we're showing -- we have different punch points for you. this is tackling terror at home. this is trump. extreme vetting of immigrants. we've talked to his surrogates, they haven't figured it out. treat american terrorists like enemy combatants. there is legal authority but it hasn't been done. works fine the way the system is now. that was abroad. the punch points there. how about the clinton ones? >> clinton at home, here's what she says she would do differently. she says intelligence surge to identify lone wolves, work with muslim american community, give first responders, law enforcement more tools and then road she says intensify the current fight with airstrikes in

syria, dismantle terror network and funding, arms and fighting, combat online propaganda. s.e., i want to talk about what he said about profiling. i think profiling gets a bad rap in this country. everybody bristles when they hear it. it is working in israel. that's what he talked about. israel does it to great effect so, you know, his supporters say, yeah, let's do that. >> i actually think a lot of people would be comfortable with the idea of some kind of profiling if you could explain exactly what the criteria is, what are the red flags? and trump is so vague all the time when he talks about these proposals. the rhetoric becomes a distraction. so we're not talking about actual -- actual policy or actual proposals, we're just talking about his heated rhetoric. but i actually think if you explained to people the fact that we already do some kinds of profiling and the ways in which profiling can work, i think most people would be comfortable with

it. >> you have two things that you're saying there that are both worth a beat, s.e. we do this already. >> right. >> to the extent that you can constitutionally. >> exactly. >> people leave that out of the analysis. the reason that profiling gets a bad name is because it's often unconstitutional, that's why we don't do it. that's something people have to remember about trump's ideas. he throws things out there that often would not be legal. >> well, and also not just limited to the constitution, he's talked about wanting to bring backwater boarding which would defy the geneva convention and which you'd need 147 other countries to ratify again if we are going to allow for water boarding and much worse as he has said. so i always want to sort of say to his supporters, i understand that you think he speaks your language, but can he actually do a lot of the things that he's proposing? the answer is no. >> kirsten, your last thoughts? >> right. we have to know what he means by profiling. when some people think of profiling, they think of

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