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>> absolutely not. no weapon, no gun, no sword, no violence, no action. i don't know why these four officers couldn't gain control of it. >> thank you for sharing your training with us to help us understand this. more on the breaking news on the violence in charlotte. let's get right to it. this is cnn breaking news. -- >> good morning. welcome to your quaelt n"new da" a second night of of violence. north carolina governor declaring a state of emergency as chaos erupts in the city's business district. you have some people protesting. you had others who were just looking to clash with police. tear gas used, quen, to break up the crowds. >> shattering windows in downtown businesses behere
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downtown businesses on your screen. four officers were also hurt in this riot. the big question this morning, why won't officials release the police video. the dash cam that could put to rest the wildly differing accounts of what led police to shoot and kill keith lamar scott. lets begin with nick valencia live in downtown charlotte. what is the latest there. >> good morning, aliyson. the assemblance of normacy has returned to the streets of do downtown charlotte. what the aftermath has been along this street. what started as a peaceful protest quickly turned into violence. and while demonstrators have dispersed, police are anticipating another round of protests tonight. overnight, a state of emergency declared in charlotte. the governor deploys the national guard.
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>> we cannot tolerate violence and the destruction of property and will not tolerate the attacks towards our police frss. >> violet protests erupt for saekd night. in the chaos, a man lay bleeding on the ground from his head. authorities say one person was shot by another seville yon outside the city's omni hotel. that person is on life support and in critical condition. police descend on demonstrators and riot gear firing tear grenades. boris sanchez in the middle of the scene. ed lavandera also caught in the fray. >> it's okay. >> reporter: knocked over by a protester while reporting on live tv. the protester later apologized. >> taking out their frustrations on me. >> reporter: police confirmed that several police officers suffered injuries. if unrest continues, they'll explore other options including curfews to keep people off the streets.
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>> we are working very hard to bring peace and calm back to our city. we know is not who we are. >> adding to the anger here among demonstrators is what they say a lack of transparency. police and dash cam footage has not been released. demonstrators want that video to be released. however, police say it's part of the investigation. it is worth noting, as well. according to a local affiliate, six fatal police shootings in charlotte in 2016. all of them have been found to be justified. >> thanks so much for that reporting, nick. an addendum what happens to ed lavandein deeander lavandera. came back and apologized. >> he handled like that a pro. not easy when you're there and reporting and somebody assaults you. the kid came back and said, you know, i did the wrong thing.
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people taukd lked to me and hug ed. just shows the complexity of the situation. >> that's an interesting dimension. i'm glad we got that. charlotte police officer promising the investigation into keith lamannt shooting death will be handle drastically. two vastly different reasons. poala sandoval is live in sandoval with more. what is the answer to that? >> you know, frankly, we know this law was recently introduced and passed, although it is not quite in effect yet. it does prevent authorities from releasing some of this dash cam video. was this shooting justified? at this point it depends on who you can. >> some say he had a gun, some
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say he had a book. >> reporter: two very accounts emerging about what led police to shoot keith lamar scott in the parking lot complex. scott had a gun when he was country fronted by officer -- >> the officers continued to yell at him to drop it. he stepped out posing a threat to the officers and officer brently subsequently fired his weapon, striking the subject. >> reporter: scott's daughter insists her father dedid nid no a gun. alleging if he did, police planted it. an emotional facebook live stream. >> he can't even do this, [ bleep ], my mother and daddy are disabled. y'all are running from him
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because he's [ bleep ]. >> reporter: the evidence at the scene proves their story. >> waepen was seized, a handgun. i can also tell you that we did not find a book that has been made referenced to. >> these conflicting accounts offer little comfort to scott's wife. she issued a statement assert g asserting, after listening to remarks, we have more questions than answers. rest assured, we will work diligently to get answers to our questions as quickly as possible. but the new law doesn't go into effect for another week. charlotte's player telling cnn last night, she will review the video today. >> there are different perspectbiperspect perspectives and videos. there may be some community videos. we want to have clear,
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irrefutable evidence and ware work very hard tamake that asse assessable. >> how do we move forward? what happens next? a civil rights activist speaking on behalf of the scott family. amir may senior, founder of abundant faith word church in charlotte. john, how is the facally this morning? >> they're doing well. some information that we received. just kind of getting away from charlotte and all of it. the incidents and stuff that has been taking place. >> have the police offered to show them the videos that they have to prove their case? >> to my understanding, no. historically in charlotte and with our last case, the farrow case, they just braunged it. it took two ye there's no connection with us, no communication. >> so, amir, what do you think
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those videotapes would mean to the community? >> i believe those videotapes will bring some kind of truth to the community and law enforcement and african-american community. right now we are disarray with it's a matter of trust. who can we trust and what words can we trust? i think the solid police department if, in fact, they have the videos that tell the truth. we should expedite that process to try to bring some healing and try to bring some calmness to our city because it's a great city. i moved from michigan to this city because of its potential and all the wonderful people from all culture that is here. i believe that we actually expedite this process to get the truth shall set you free. scr scliptu scripture calling for transparency. >> you're saying you didn't like what you saw on the streets last
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night? the basis of the anger is understandable, especially in light of what is not known yet. but these riots and people destroying their own businesses. you say nat that is wrong. >> i absolutely think it's wrong. we can't get anywhere with the vision with any type of -- we can legalize protests but follow christ and christ is all about peace and love for all man kind. burning down a building never resolves something. it doesn't bring trayvon martin back and burning a building doesn't show us anything, but it shows us our frustration. yes, ware frustrated as a community and more ways to go about it than throwing rocks at a building because we are still one community. >> why do you think the protests are going on in the business district and not where the shooting happened or in those communities, where, you know, the police are angry about the policing. why do you think it was brought to downtown?
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>> because i believe that african-american people, we feel as though we cannot be trusted. we feel as though we have no voice. the only time we feel like we can create a voice for ourself or some type of platform is challenge the system economically. it's obvious to us that trayvon martin had some skittles and gunned down. anoth we saw tamir rice driving a car while being black. nothing occurred there. now we have another young man that witness accounts he had a book in his hand which he was gunned down, too. a lot of aphfrican-american mal feel it is hunting season and they are the prey. we have to call for solid irty and peace and we have to call for transparency because violence and bloodshed will get us absolutely no where. >> tom, for the cops to say that he had a gun and be lying would
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be a very, very explosive development in this case. if they say there was a gun and you see video or that there is proof that there is a gun. this victim had a gun and exited the vehicle, how will that change your feelings about the situati situation? it. >> it would change only a small fragment of it. right now if it showed a couple windows it would save a couple at the walmart or downtown. when you murdered or shot someone and they die. and the mother has to sit and wait and go out of town because of all the chaos going on in the city and there's no closure. i think it could be a quick remedy to this. if there is a xwun, then so b beit. or even the fact that he had a gun, did he point the gun? it's okay to have a gun in this
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country. everybody has a gun nowadays. did this individual, who, obviously, the same routine sitting in his car waiting on his son to get out of the car. get off the bus. sitting in his car waiting on him. why would he want to get his son off the bus and then engage officers. one thing that is not being said in the news is that there is a warrant that is being deserved. that warrant was not for him. i checked his record, he doesn't have a warrant. they were in that community trying to find someone with that particular warrant and he wasn't there. we got mr. scott's blood on our hands. charlotte has to deal with it. wae just had at shoog like this three ye . >> i believe six in recent history and tension in the community. this is, obviously, a flash point. amir, do you believe that things will calm down from here?
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do you think tonight will be even worse? >> i believe the ball is in the police department's court. i believe the way they handle and go forth from now and try to enhance this conversation with the community i believe that will show solidarity that must be a conversation with the chief of police, the police department and the african-american community. there must be some transparency, we feel our voices have not been heard. that's why john and i are out here we are to be a voiz for those who have no voes. we're praying for the wife and the children they were very frustrated. no one cares and their father died in vein and i believe tonight we got a call for prayer and solidarity. i'm asking all the clergy to meet us. we're going to have a prayer vigil to try to cause some healing. not only are the rioters upset
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but the clergy are upset. we have to come together and show the world that we are one charlotte. >> we've seen detrends power in leaders of the faith community to help people direct their anger and not protest. amir, thank you for joining us. >> john, we'll stay in touch. let us know what we need to know. thank you for being with us. i hope tonight is a safer night. >> we want you to know that we're trying to cover every aspect of this story. we asked north carolina governor, the attorney general and the mayor of charlotte and the police chief to come on to "new day" and talk about what's going on here. they declined. we will continue to ask. alyison? everyone will want to stick around into our next hour because we will talk with the former president of and he has seen the dachcam video of the shooting there. he quauberates the police chi he. a starkly different scene where we have video of a deadly
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shooting but the protests have been peaceful. ana cabrera is in tulsa with the latest. good morning. >> good morning. we are hearing the local police investigation here in tulsa could be wrapped up as soon as tomorrow and turned over to the local district attorney's office. it has been a week since terence crutcher was killed by betty shelby. you've seen the video with his arms up as he's walking back to his suv just moments before he is shot and killed. officer shelby's attorney tells us she thought he was reaching inthiz vehicle perhaps for a weapon when she opened fire. we now know that he was unarmed. the reaction to the shooting here has been passionate, but peaceful. about 1,000 people gathered last night for aninter faith vigil. they linked arms and spoke out and expressed regret and frustration. we talked to a local pastor who said they're trying to channel
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their emotions in a way. >> i believe that we have every right to be mad. just like our brothers and sisters in north carolina. we don't want to tear up our property, cars. we don't want to commit violence against police officers nor one another. but we needed a place to come and say i'm mad. and i need to be able to express that. >> now, regardless of what happens with the local criminal investigation, don't forget, there is also a department of justice federal civil rights probe into this incident, as well. and the attorney general loretta lynch speaking out saying their department will look at this case and they will be impartial, exhaustive and thoroughchris? >> all right, anna, every time we have a situation like this, it always winds up magnifying bigger issues. the nature of policing in this country. and you're going to see these issues reflected in the presidential race. also going to see very different approaches from hillary clinton
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and from donald trump. for that part of the story, we have jason carroll. >> as you know, stop and frisk was rules unconstitutional three years ago. nevertheless, donald trump said it works and should be used, again. both candidates offering different takes on how to change police practices following fating shootings of african-american men in both oklahoma and north carolina. >> so, i don't know if she joked. he was walking and his hands were high. something really bad happened. donald trump said haez very troubled by the deadly police shooting in tulsa. both candidates speaking out about the recent killings of two black men at the hands of police. >> we have two more names to add to a list of african-americans killed by polices in these encounters. it's unbearable and it needs to become intolerable. >> reporter: police shootings now front and center in the presidential race.
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trump vows to fix the issues facing african-american voters. >> honestly, what do you have to lose? not going to get any worse. it's terrible. >> reporter: naacp calling trump's assessment of african-american communities insulting. >> to ignore the fact that african-americans were lynched. african-americans were forced to drink out of color water fountain and ride the back of the bus and to compare it to the chachallenges of today demonstrates a profound ignorance of history. >> reporter: trump also calling for a stop and frisk policy nationwide. >> i would do stop and frisk. i think you have to. >> reporter: new york city stop and frisk policy was found unconstitutional in 2013. in part, because of it unlawfully targeted blacks and latinos and allowed polices to de contraband.
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>> we did it in new york and it worked incredibly well. you have to be proactive. you really help people sort of change their mind automatically. >> reporter: between 2004 and mid-2012, police stopped over 4 million people according to the nypd. nearly 90% of them black or latino with just 12% charged with crimes. >> they said, get against the fence. i could feel the presence. >> reporter: trump's campaign later saying in a statement he was only suggesting a locally daylered version of stop and frisk should be used in chicago specifically. but double down on his support of the policy he has publicly endorsed since 2013. saying stop and frisk saved lives and reduced crime. a sharp contrast to clinton whose campaign announced she would implement a national standard is to help prevent police involved shootings. >> we need to come together,
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work together, white, black, latino, asian. >> she also praised the swift of law enforcement after the swiss capture of new york city, new jersey police officers. >> police are serving with extraordinary courage, honor and skill. are police handled those terrorist attacks exactly right. and they likely saved a lot of lives. >> well, clinton also advocating for more community policing going forward. as for stop and frisk, a number of new york city officials say the practice severely eroded relations between the police and the communities they serve. up next, who has the better plan to address policing and racial issue? supporters for both candidates will debate them when "new day" returns. you pay your car insurance premium like clockwork.
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>> hands up, he was doing everything he was supposed to do. everything. and a young policeman shot this man. i don't get. >> we have two more names to add to a list of african-americans killed by police officers in these encounters. it's unbearable. and it needs to become intolerable. >> okay, that first one that donald trump was responding to, that was the tulsa case, not the charlotte case. but who has the better plan to address policing and race issues? cnn political commentator and cnn political commentator and trump supporter jeffrey lord. great tahave both of you gentlemen here. jeffrey, nice to have you in studio. let's take a look, i mean, both of the candidates, as you heard, came out and said they were both really troubled by what they saw in tulsa. that situation where someone's car broke down and he had his hands up and he was shot and now there's all this violence in
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charlotte because another black man who may have been armed or not, we don't know, no video has been released to the public was also shot. but the question, of course, is what are they going to do about it? so, let me play both of their different responses when asked, what will you do about it? first, hillary clinton's campaign manager. listen to this. >> what she is proposing is that we set up national standards so that localities have better practices to work with and train towards. >> wae all respect our police greatly and they will just have to get better and better and better. >> well, this is the classic difference, alyison between a republican and a democrat. the democrat, whatever the problem seems to be, they want to federalize it. they want to hire bureaucrats in washington. set some sort of quote/unquote standard. and make the rest of the country obey. the republican, you go on back
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and back and back and what they're saying the problem in tulsa is the people of tulsa and the people of tulsa need to get better and better and solve it in whatever fashion. what is going on in charlotte needs to be handled by the people of charlotte. you have a mayor, police chief, city council and you've got that, that is the way to handle these problems. >> not exactly what donald trump said. he just said get better and better and better which leaves out a lot of specifics. >> but he's not saying, at least i'm not hearing him say hire a group of bureaucrats and put them in the department of justice and make everybody tow the line. >> what are you hearing in the difference in their responses? >> more of a contrast between the two candidates. donald trump who literally said nothing other than stop and frisk. donald trump doesn't have a plan for criminal justice reform. when you look at hillary clinton, you're talking about not just body cameras what she asked about or echoed in her
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first campaign speech at columbia university in new york to start the campaign. but talking about community policing and national use of force standards. you're talking about, you know, making sure these entities these small towns and small communities are reporting their use of force to the fbi so we can collect this data. using grants for local police departments so that when we're going in and educating them on the use of force, they also have the resources needed to do their jobs and to train pauroperly. one candidate who is prepared to tackle these issues and more and more and more when we need specifics. >> jeffrey, when you say that donald trump as president would leave it to the locals to figure this out, does that mean he thinks the president can't do anything about this situation? >> no, not necessarily. but, i mean, again, this is the classic formulation. when i'm listening to bakari there saying in essence what i just said.
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>> he thinks it can be handled at the federal level and so does hillary clinton. >> if donald trump doesn't think it could be handled add the federal level, then where does that leave us? >> people of charlotte solve their problem. >> without the president doing anything. >> presidents can give speeches and be role models in that sense. this is the united states of america. the state of north carolina, the city of charlotte. if they have a problem here, clearly they do, they need to solve it. >> i think we just heard it spelled out. it can either be handled at the local level and that's what jeffrey and donneaw donald trum saying or hillary clinton's idea that the feds can play a role. >> i'm not so certain we're sure what donald trump is saying. i could see if this was just some random, localized issue. two problems with what jeffrey and donald trump are saying. number one, this isn't just some pop up overnight thing that occurs randomly. we're having these discussions.
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i was just with you guys two days ago when we were having the discussion about baton rouge and columbus, ohio. we had it about ferguson and new york. this isn't just some isolated local issue. we need to have national standards and guidelines. what happened in tulsa with a guy with his hands up and a father of four doesn't end up in the street. the second thing is a lot of police departments oout there, jeffrey. very small police officers. two shootings one in augusta, north carolina and neither of which get much play, but they're small police departments that need the resources of the federal government, not only so they can have the equipment like the body cameras, but they can also have the training. >> do you agree it's a national problem? >> well, it's -- i mean, no. i don't think it -- what we're seeing is a national problem and we're going to hire all these people. then, no, i don't think it is. >> it doesn't imply we're going to hire all these people. this is not just something that
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is national incident but a national problem that deserves the attention of the president to try to tackle it on a national level. >> take a look at it, absolutely. as to solving it, as to making local communities, i mean, they're not all the same. i mean, every community in america is different. charlotte is not tulsa to use the example that we've got right in front of us. and, you know, we need to take these things into consideration. you know, one of the things that is perpetially charged here. >> the common thread is that the victims are often unarmed black men. so, do you thing there should be national standards? could that help? >> i don't think so. just because i think based on my experience with all kinds of things, the federal government gets out of control pretty quickly. and then it's permanent. that's the thing. then you have a whole bunch more of lobbyists.
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i mean, this just gets into a mess here when you do these things. >> jeffrey, bakari, thank you very much. both of your different philosophies very helpful. let's get over to chris. so, you're going to hear different ideas about what to do to help with policing in black communities. donald trump one of his ideas is stop and frisk. he says it worked incredibly well in new york. what does new york city's mayor think about that? he is an outspoken critic of stop and frisk. we have mayor bill de blasio here, next. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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because after all... we should fit into your life. [ laughing ] not the other way around. [ clock ticking ] the issue of crime and policing now at the forefront this morning of the 2016 campaign following police shootings in charlotte and tulsa. donald trump favors stop and frisk. he calls the controversial policy under new york city mayor giuliani an unqualified success. the current mayor does not agree. mayor bill de blasio endorses hillary clinton for president. let's talk about the violence we
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saw overnight. >> violence is never acceptable, let's be clear. people want to peacefully protest, that's their right. let's go to the underlying causes. people are very frustrated because police community is not what it should be in most parts of this country. this is really the work of our time combine police and community together. that happens through neighborhood policing through connecting people very personally, so policing community get to know each other. it certainly is not through policies like stop and frisk which created a real wedge between community and created the vision. it's not really when you look at it, it's not something new to understand that we need a kind of communication to kind of understand police and community. our police commissioner and the neighborhood policing and bill bratton just left office here, the greatest police leader of our time believed that the way forward for all american police departments was to deepen that relationship. this is where we have to go. >> let's talk about stop and
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frisk because so many people said it was effective. you may not have liked it, but it was effective. the crime rate plummeted from what it was in new york city in the '80s and early '90s to then in 2011, it dropped by more than 75%. it was proactive instead of reactive. >> i understand people say that. that is just not the history. bill bratton came in in 1994 and instituted a systematic strategic approach to policing that's what really started the change even before david decreased the police force here. stop and frisk was intensified for a limited period of otime in the last decade, in particular. and the bottom line is it created a huge amount of division between police and community. we ended that unconstitutional use of stop and frisk. that overuse of stop and frisk. what's happened in the three years since we made the change? crime has gone down consistenly since we actually stopped using it. bill bratton would say that what
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we need to do is bring police and community closer together. that's what proved to be the case. so, you know, donald trump talks about stop and frisk like he knows the facts. he has had no experiencing with public safety and he should really be careful. if we reinstuted stop and frisk around this country. you'll see more teng between police and commune. >> let's talk about the terror attack we saw here in new york and new jersey over the weekend. rahami was the suspect and he was taken in alive after a gunfight with police. do you know what his status is? if he's talking yet to police? >> police, fbi, everyone wants to get more information from him, but the most important thing to say here is nypd, fbi, all our partners did an extraordinary job of finding him very, very quickly. and we've got more work to do. a couple people of interest out there that we'd like to talk to. >> let's talk about those guys. putting out the picture, first, of rahami worked. we got it out on tv and we got
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him in short order. tell me about the two guys that you're asking for the yeed medi help. we used a broad messaging system. we sent to every cell phone and every device in the new york metropolitan area a message that this guy was on the loose. that is one of the reasons because it was out there so broadly. >> and he had been watching, cnn, by the way. and he recognized rahami across the straet. >> we thank cnn. we have two individuals out there. we don't know if they have an involvement or not. >> what makes you think they have an involvement? >> by the video, obviously a question if they were somehow associated. we want to be very careful about this. it is not confirmation they were involved but may know something about the devices that were used and people were stopping by, but still give us some context to what they know. a lot more work to do. here is the thing, it all adds up the same way.
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the famous phrase, if you see something, say something. i hope this is the ultimate illustration to the people in this country that everyone can support law enforcement with their voice picking up that phone and going over to an officer and saying you saw something. in this case, how many lives were saved because one guy followed through and actually -- >> it really worked. in this case, it really worked. so many people. we talked to the woman who saw the pressure cooker. she called 911 and they were able to lift the fingerprints off that and find dna on there. it worked on every single level. is your latest thinking that this guy acted alone or some sort of health or even cell here in new york or new jersey? >> hey, this is all preliminary. law enforcement will define the sta state. so, they'll tell us, but what i can tell you so far is we don't have specific evidence of a cell. we are concerned to know that
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there are other people. we just don't have a final answer on that yet. this has to be done very meticulously and very carefully. don't jump to conclusions until we have the facts. i get those two guys in. huge investigations going on and a seamless investigation. the fbi, nypd, all our other partners very much working together to find out what we need to know about this case. >> does it worry you that this wasn't stopped beforehand? >> something to learn about each and every situation. what that earlier contact with the fbi was. but it's not right, again, to jump to conclusions. a huge volume that the fbi has to handle. we need to understand specifically what did they know? how did they follow up and what can we learn for the future? this is a part of our lives today. but the reason i maintain a lot of hope is extraordinary intelligence gathering capacity and nypd has it, as well. consistently, we've been able to
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find things and stop them with very few exceptions. but even with the exceptions what we learn after the fact is that people knew. people knew if they had simply called in, it could have made all the difference. i think this is about deepening the public's understanding that they have to be a part of this. they have to be partners with law enforcement. >> his father tried. his father tried to alert authorities. >> that's important. we need to know what happened there and i'm not for a moment saying there aren't some things to learn from this and some things may not have been done right. i will say this, we are learning every day in this age where there are lone wolf. we understand that. sometimes we get the kind of prior information we want and intelligence gathering is the number one defensive fool. but we also learn in new york city, you need a big, robust force. the biggest anti-terrorism force we instituted in the last year. a lot of involvement from the public. that will give you the best chance of stopping these things before they start. >> great to have you on "new day." >> thank you. >> let's get over to chris. the protests in charlotte and also the riot in north
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carolina. but there's another american city in play right now. tulsa is grappling with their own deadly police shooting. but it's very different in tulsa. you have different facts, true. but you also have video that was released for people to see. and, as a result, you have a different atmosphere. last night there was a peaceful vigil held for terence crutcher. joining us now is tulsa mayor dewey bartlett. mr. mayor, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry it is under these circumstances. what can you tell us about how tulsa is doing this morning? >> well, we're doing pretty well. everything considered. i think we're doing fine. you know, this is a type of thing that is inest rg heari, ip building in tulsa. what we did starting seven years ago after i was elected mayor.
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my wife and i started attending a different church every sunday. when people do that they develop relationship and true friendship. that has come into play in a big way. we look for common ground among friends. it's that type of really community-based policing that not only our family but also our police chief, chuck jordan, he's had the same attitude. it all comes together in a good way and at the end of the day when even bad things happen, we had the ability to communicate and avoid violent confrontation. >> so, let's look at the couple dynamics in play here. the first is, there's video available and it was released. day do you think that has had a significant impact on keeping the situation more stable than what we're seeing in charlotte? >> for several years we contemplated if we had a terrible event like we're experiencing. we had to be transparent.
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we had to put the information out immediately, which is exactly what we did. we even brought the family in, which is a very, very difficult situation. we got them involved. we show them what happened. we told them what we knew up until that point in time. we released all the videos that we've had to the public. so, we really beared our soul, so to speak, to show what we knew at that point and what we've done. and then counted upon the rel z relationships and friendships in place to allow us to get on to the next level. the various judicial systems are involved now. now it's up to them to do their evaluation and hopefully, we're hoping they do it quickly and thoroughly. >> the officer involved in the shooting did not turn on her dash cam. did not have a body camera, even though grant money has been received. why are there no body cameras? why isn't the protocol that you turn on whatever cameras you have at every stop?
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>> regarding the camera and the car, when she first stopped, it was, she was assuming that it was just simply a stalled vehicle. the particular position in her switching mechanisms was at a place where the camera did not come on. we have started a process about a year ago, actually, of purchasing and testing body cams. we're testing them right now. we've purchased eventually we'll purchase about 500. we went through a very lengthy cameras that worked well with ad the type of software and computerization that we have in place without having to buy a lot of necessary new equipment. so, we're in the process of doing that. unfortunately, we didn't have them adequately tested to put them out. but we are putting them out at this point. >> the other question is the
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training. the prejudging of the victim involved and then this lack of de-escalating measures by the police that responded to the scene. that this man, walking slowly away and arguably not complying with what he is being told to do. if it is true, he is being told to drop to the ground. they could have grabbed him and they could have done so many different things that they did not do. does that question the kind of training your officers are getting? >> the training, we have a very high-quality officer. the requirements that we have to be a tulsa police officer, they have to have a four-year college degree. we have a very well-educated officer. the training we have normally is very, very good. obviously, the video speaks for itself. we have, i have, personally, a lot of questions about a variety of tactics that we've seen. and that's, that will surely come into play. we'll have discussions about that very soon. at the end of the day, we want to honor the family's request
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that we approach this thing, that we rely upon our relationships and we're all very, very frustrated and very angry about what we've seen and, fortunately, we've been lucky in tulsa to avoid a lot of problems. something that we spend years and years and years developing that relationship. >> the relationships matter, no question. community policing does, as well. and to the extent that you're doing them, mayor, there has been benefit. protesters say no justice, no peace. what this situation will come down after this initial wave of transparency is whether or not these officers are held accountable for what they did and did not do in this situation. do you have confidence that will happen? >> absolutely. and that was one thing that i started off with speaking to the families and to the groups is that they will be held accountable. no question about it in my mind. that is our number one focus right now is the judicial
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system. the law, the issue of law must they will be held accountable. without question. >> mayor, thank you very much. we'll stay on the story. appreciate you joining us on "new day." >> thank you very much for your interest. >> alisyn? >> i appreciate it. >> chris the latest polls show donald trump riding a wave of momentum in three must-win battleground states, including ohio. so we're going to take you live to cleveland for our battleground series, next. and, only 50 calories a serving... good morning, indeed. v8. veggies for all.
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all this week we're giving you a look at the race in crucial battleground states. with 18 electoral votes at stake ohio is a huge prime. donald trump has a lead in the latest poll but ohio's governor john kasich still has not endorsed him. cnn's martin savidge is live in cleveland with more. tell us about the scene there, martin. >> good morning, alisyn. there are 7,700,000 registered voters in the state of ohio. it's a key state. campaigns are racing to try to get even more people registered. it's been an odd campaign here, and that has meant that the candidates sometimes are seen in some really odd places. as the clocks ticks down in the buckeye state both campaigns are going after unlikely ohioans. for trump that's voters like jeff hill. >> donald trump's who i'm voting for. >> would you say you're republican? >> this year i am. i'm not ordinarily, no. this year i'm republican. >> he's older, white, blue
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collar. trump's voter sweet spot. census numbers show ohio has more like him than any other battleground state. which explains why trump has been here more than plenty. showing up on traditional democratic turf like factory towns, coal fields, even union halls. >> the people are concerned about national security. they're concerned about domestic security. they're concerned about jobs and some of the trade deals and i think that resonates with not just republican supporters of mr. trump but also independents and democrats. >> but trump isn't the only one after nontypical voters. >> this is the town of powell. it's a suburb just north of columbus. it's definitely predominantly white. it's upper middle class. and it's very heavily republican. there's a trump office right across the street for goodness sakes. and yet, these are exactly the voters that the clinton campaign is going after. how do you speak to that kind of a voter? it's a little bit of a different conversation, i would think.
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>> we certainly do talk about donald trump, and his divisiveness and the rhetoric that we've heard from him consistently for the last year and a half while he's been running. but we also certainly talk about secretary clinton and her -- her career of fighting for children and families. >> that's the same message clinton's campaign has been hammering home in ohio tv. where she and her allies have outspent trump and his backers by nearly a four to one margin in the state. >> the goals we will strive for, the principles we will live by -- >> reporter: sherry is a longtime republican. voting for reagan, mccain, romney. but she can't vote for trump. >> hillary is a smart woman, and trump is just -- he's just -- i hate to say it, i -- i -- he's a maniac. >> reporter: another more high profile republican is also not committing to vote for trump. popular ohio governor john kasich. but the key now is turning out the vote.
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and organizationally clinton seems to have the edge with 55 field offices and plans for two dozen more compared to trump's 31 so-called victory offices. early voting in ohio starts in less than four weeks. plenty of time, political experts say, for things to change for either candidate. >> nobody's got this state wrapped up. >> i don't think so. >> the real question now is not which candidate voters may go for, but will voters actually vote at all. an early indication you could look at the applications for absentee ballots in the state. well over a half million have been filed. 40,000 ahead of this same period in 2012. alisyn and chris? >> martin thank you. >> appreciate it, pal. our battleground series continues tomorrow. we're going to take you to the tight race in north carolina. clinton looking to make some history there. we have much more on our breaking coverage of the violence in charlotte. let's get to it. >> this is cnn breaking news.
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>> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." we do have some breaking news for you because it's been a second night of violent protests erupting in charlotte as anger builds over the deadly police shooting of a black man. north carolina's governor declaring a state of emergency there. because riots have broken out in the city's business district as you can see on your screen. clashing with police there. >> there were protesters, legitimate ones but also vandals shattering windows of downtown businesses that lead to one person critically wounded and four officers were also hurt. the big question in charlotte is, why won't officials release video that they say -- that they say, proves their account of what happened in this shooting of keith lamont hill scott that he had a gun? we're going to talk with somebody who has seen that dash cam video. what does he see? we have every angle covered. let's begin with nick valencia live in downtown charlotte. >> good morning, chris. the riots last night were
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restricted to downtown central business district. the neighborhoods seem to have been spared but not the businesses here, especially on this street. behind me you could see the aftermath looters targeting this souvenir shop. police unfortunately anticipate more of the same tonight. overnight a state of emergency declared in charlotte. the governor deploys the national guard. >> we cannot tolerate violence, the destruction of property, and will not tolerate the attacks toward our police officers. >> reporter: violent protests erupt for a second night. in the chaos a man lays bleeding on the ground from his head. authorities say one person was shot by another civilian outside the city's omni hotel. that person is on life support and in critical condition. police descend on demonstrators in riot gear, firing flash grenades and deploying tear gas to disperse crowds. boris sanchez in the middle of the intense scene.
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>> thigh clearly want us out of here. >> reporter: ed lavandera caught in the frame. knocked over by a protester while reporting on live tv. the protester later apologized. >> taken out their frustrations on me. >> reporter: police confirm several police officers suffered injuries. charlotte says they'll explore other options including curfews to keep people off the streets. >> we are working very hard to bring peace and calm back to our city. we know that this is not who charlotte is. this is not who we are. >> complicating things are these competing threads of information, keith scott's famsly says he was unarmed when he was shot. police say that is not true, they found a weapon on him and the reason that he was shot was because he did not comply with demands by officers to drop his weapon. chris?
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