curfew. a small group thanking national guard members for service. others laying down to protest the shooting death of keith lamont scott. >> release the video. >> reporter: and demanding the police video of the incident be released to the public. the police chief concedes the video doesn't show scott pointing a gun at officers. >> the video does not give me definitive visual evidence that would confirm that a person is pointing a gun. when taken this the totally of the evidence, it support what is we heard in the version of the truth of the circumstances that happened. >> reporter: despite that, police are standing by the account of what happened saying scott refused to drop his weapon. >> the gun and it was not easy to see with the way the motion was happening. so, it is ambiguous.

>> reporter: after massive public outcry, the scott family saw two police videos capturing the deadly encounter. >> it was very painful. you know, not just to see him shot and killed, but tasee to s reaction on the rest of the family members' face. >> reporter: they saw no aggression in the video issuing a statement in part, it is impossible to discern from the video what, if anything, mr. scott is holding in his hands. when he was shot and killed mr. scott's hands were by his side and slowly walking backwards. two wildly different accounts as more evidence is uncovered. this photo taken by an eyewitness appears to show a black object on the ground, which a source close to the investigation says is the gun recovered by authorities. >> we're just not sure about that photos and other photos depicted. we did not see a gun in the video. >> reporter: after the shooting scott's daughter suggested that the gun was planted by the

police. >> he was in the car reading a [ bleep ] book. >> reporter: the police are adamant. >> the prepoerpon preponderous and he refused to drop that weapon and the officer fired as he received that threat. >> reporter: the he said/she said between the scott family and police. meanwhile an update on the investigation, the north carolina bureau of investigation has take an lead and you remember that protester that was shot on wednesday night, he has been pronounced dead. they're thankful that no such violence happened last night. alyison. >> that is a relief in terms of last night and, thanks so much for all of that. the tulsa police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man turned and checked herself

in and released after facing a $50,000 bond. she is facing felony manslaughter charge s less thana week after she shot terence fletcher. what have we learned, ana? >> good morning, alyison. police and the district attorney's office wasting no time interviewing dozens of people after that fating shooting. now, this morning the family of terence crutcher is calling this a small victory. tulsa police officer betty shelby turning herself in and charged overnight. charged with the shooting death of terence crutcher. >> we know anything that happens not charges, not convictions nor sentencing will bring terence back. >> i determine the filing of manslaughter in the first degree against tulsa police officer betty shelby is warranted. >> reporter: the felony manslaughter charnel coming less

than a week after the shooting was captured on this police helicopter video. crutcher walking with his hands up just moments before he's gunned down by shelby. they say she acted unreasonably from escalating the situation from a confrontation whawas not responding to verbal commands and walking away from her with his hands up becoming emotionally involved to the point that she overreacted. shelby told investigators she feared crutcher was reaching into his car, potentially for a weapon. no weapon was found at the scene. >> she thought if she didn't take action right then, everyone would be in peril of serious bodily harm or death. >> all we know is what we saw on the video. we didn't see any point of mr. crutcher, terence being noncompliant. >> reporter: questioning the officer's story by pointing to an enhanced picture of the window. >> you can see it is completely up and there is blood going

almost to the top of the window. >> reporter: cnn has independently analyzed the video frame by frame. zooming in. it does appear that the window is up and that a reflection of his arms in the window is visible. >> we are demanding for prosecution and we want a conviction. when this happens, that's a small victory, but we know we have to get ready to fight this war. >> now the charge of felony manslaughter in the first degree is a very serious charge and carries a penalty of four years to life behind bars if convicted. we have reached oout eed out t attorney for officer shelby and have not heard back this morning. while video evidence can seem conclusive, it is never the only evidence presented at trial. chris? >> very good point. ana, thank you very much. let's discuss with author of "nobody casualties of america's war." and former nypd sergeant john j.

college joe jacalon. the charlotte police will say, see what happens. we show you the video and tell you to let us process it and we show it to the family and now more problems. is that a fair pushback? >> no, it's not. listen he was, the chief is saying he had a gun -- >> initially saying that and now what are you hearing? >> he's backing away from that. even he has seen the video and studied it. he should have done that prior to going out and talking about it. that's why these guys have to use public information officers. no walking back from this. the buck stops with him. now, who is going to talk for him? when you have a public information officer you can always fix the problems that you had it and say, listen, that public information officer said, "a," but after our review now it is really "b." at this point the whole investigation is under a cloud because they're going to look at him and say what else are you

going to tell us that is not completely true? >> you have messaging, that's what joe is talking asxwout tbo dad is waiting in the car with a book for his kid like he does every day. now had cops say there is a gun. a secondary level of evaluation. let's assume, let's assume he did have a gun, the analysis isn't over and that's what caused confusion in the video for the scott family, it seems. >> that's exactly right. that's why this case is so much more complex. cases of unarmed people just because he wasn't unarmed doesn't mean he's not dangerous. it's an open-carry state, it doesn't mean you should be shot. doesn't mean you're an imminent threat. that's why we need as much information as possible and for whatever reason they seem committed to not releasing information. >> now, to compare charlotte and tulsa. they both start off in the same place. but then they branch off wildly

here in terms of the transparency and how it has been handled and what we're seeing on the proscatorial side. do you think this is a randomness or acts by those in power in tulsa that are making it a better situation? >> i think the officials in tulsa handled this pretty well so far. they sat down with the community leaders and the families and showed them the videos right away. the district attorney right on board. within six or seven days we come to a conclusion on this and they file charges against the officer. so, i think we see the difference between, you know, almost bifurcated where you have tulsa doing one thing and then they kind of in north carolina, like entrench themselves and digging themselves deeper into a hole by withholding this information at this point. >> in tulsa there is an indictment that doesn't mean there is going to be a conviction. we've seen in these cases very often an indictment does not bring a conviction, but what does this do in terms of the

dynamic of seeing justice at play? >> first, let me be clear because people say, mark, of course, you like the outcome so far in tulsa because a police officer was indicted. for me what's helpful and what's instructive here is not that there was an indictment, but a transparent process. if the transparent process yielded different evidence, i wouldn't want someone indicted. i'm happy because it was a process that seems to have worked. in this particular case, the indictment seemed just. the indictment seemed fair. we can't assume because there is an indictment, there is justice. most officers don't get convicted for this. people are reluctant to indict. >> the presumption of use of force. people will often say when these happen how come the cops arant arrested the way i would be if i did this? different presumption in play for police officers than citizens when it comes to use of force. >> graham versus conner that dictates all use of force for

police. this is basically it's not 20/20 hindsight and we don't have the ability to go back and watch a videotape. they have to make split second decisions and sometimes they have to take somebody's life. would a reasonable person in that same situation do what this officer did? that's what the supreme court says. that's what we have to deal with. if we want to have a discussion about changing that so that we might have less police involved shootings, then we need to discuss that. but right now, that's the law of the land. >> that's not going any where. the problem is for me this is why it's hard to indict people. even a black juror will sometimes say, yeah, mike brown did look dangerous. trayvon martin, they did look dangerous because we have this deep embedded fear. >> even if you're black? >> supremacy bleeds into our own consciousness. jurors will invoke the

reasonable man standard if i was that cop on that dark alley, i would do the same thing, too. we didn't normalize an unhealthy anxiety of black folks. that's why sometimes black people get shot sometimes unarmed. >> one button on this on charlotte the case for and against. seeing that the -- people will take things different ways, if you don't have an incredibly flagrant situation. either somebody is holding their hands up like this saying, please, don't shoot me. don't shoot me. i'm unarmed. it's rare that you get something that is so cut and dry. >> right. >> do you give any deference to the idea that people with iltake th different ways and assumption of the facts and some independent review, which we don't know yet. we know the state is looking at it, but we don't know about there being truly outside review. >> hard to give credence to that.

there are so many instances where the evidence is fairly compelling, if not ultimately persuasive. yet, police still make a different decision. the fact that police often don't have outside bodies overseeing. 200 in the entire country of 19,000 police departments. that's why it's hard to say, hey, let us do it. >> citizen complaint review board, ccrb. let me ask you this, joe, just review. the state's looking at it in charlotte. and the feds looking over the shoulder in oklahoma. do you believe there should be a fully independent review of all shootings that are officer-involved? >> it's going to have to go that way, yes. especially now what's going on in north carolina. like i said, i'm having difficulty believing what the chief is telling me now after backing off what he initially said. listen, i don't think there is any chance that the doj will not look at this. they'll be in there if they're not in there already. >> should it be automatic. my brother is the governor gove

that enough? should it be even more removed? >> dwlipg right now at the state level, we should be looking at this, definitely. so many different rules and laws about supreme court decisions and each state uses it within their own sometimes. a lot of jurisdictional issues when you're dealing with police force and a lot of police procedures. we start at the state level and if that doesn't work, we go to the feds. if we go to the feds and it doesn't work, then what do we do? >> do it for everybody. i have yet to hear a good argument why we don't. typically we get it right. my point is, okay, let me concede that point. if you're looking at 1% of the time. that's a pretty big number. let's get it right all the time. >> no stronger confirmation than somebody seconding it. it buttresses them. thank you very much. now, coming up on "new day" we'll talk to the attorney for keith lamar scott family. what they saw on that police

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>> we must work with our police not against our police. they are great people. and they do a great job. those pedaling the narrative of cop is a racist force to our society and this is a narrative that is supported with a nod by my opponent. you see what she's saying and it's not good. shared directly in the responsibility for the unrest. donald trump blaming hillary clinton there, in part, for the civil unrest. this as sources tell cnn that trump is considering a trip to charlotte, north carolina. let's bring in cnn political

commentator and political anchor of time warner cable news errol lewis and rebecca berg. let's talk about what donald trump is doing in his messaging. at the same time trying to court black voters, as we know. and he's also trying to stand with the police and be the law and order candidate. are these things mutually exclusive or can he do both? >> they are not exclusive, but a soft touch to get the right place in between and the kind of thing that requires the political courage that will end up having you really sort of criticized by somebody somewhere along the way. that is not the donald trump side. it is a style. he goes to one side or to the other. so, in any given speech, you will hear him most of the time saying we've got to get tough, we have to support the police. that's all there is to this. that works directly counter to this other goal that he has had of sort of lessening some of the antipathy that he's getting from black voters. it's not going to necessarily

work out well for him. if i had to guess, i would say that he would probably end up on the side of simply support the police. the fraternal order of police have endorsed him. more in keeping with his style. not much in the way of connections with black voters or black institutions. so, i think we can predict where this is going to end up. >> rebecca, couple points for the analysis. one is this matters. this isn't, i'm going to tax at this rate. no, maybe i won't tax at that rate. you expect a play by a politician. everyone should be coming out on the side of, we support the police. what do you do in these cases? is it fair tasay he's been all over when the first wave of these came to enter the election. pro cop and saying that the black lives movement was a problem here and those in the streets were a problem here and then he comes to the other side in tulsa, before we really know anything and says the cop looks like she choked. so, it seems not just like he's balancing it out, but putting his thumb on the scale the wrong

way each time. how do you see it? >> it could be to his voters if voters are willing to forgive his inconsistencies. but that's politically not going to be the case here because people do take some of the candidates' statements over the course of an election and donald trump has veered wildly from supporting police as errol noted to trying to sound compassionate. and i personally am skeptical that voters are going to take his more recent comments in a vacuum about african-americans and say, oh, well, now donald trump has completely changed his tone. complete evolved on this issue because really you look at what he has said over this election cycle. >> yesterday he did sound more empthetic tone toward people people who are struggling in this country but then his vp nominee sort of veered off script or at least not speaking

from the same script in this moment. let me play you those in contrast to each other. >> we all have to walk a mile in someone else's shoes to see things through their eyes and then get to work fixing our very wounded country. i mean, we have some real problems and we do have a wounded country. >> dawned trump and i believe that there have been far too much of this talk of institutional bias or racism with law enforcement. >> so, is there racism and institutional bias or is there not? >> there's been too much talk about it what the governor said. that's a very different script and very different from what people are seeing on their screens on television every night. let's keep in mind that this is not a hypothetical discussion. early voting is happening right now in north carolina. so, you know, you go, you're watching chaos in the streets at

night and you're supposed to go and vote the next day. so, getting the messaging right actually matters. this is not, you know, we're right -- >> it's starting to matter. this is not academic any more. people are now deciding today whatever the snapshot that exists today. not 47 days from now, it's now. >> thousands of votes have already come in, matter of fact. so, mike pence and donald trump are going to have to figure out what it is they want to do. they have studiously avoided, i think, both of them going to the naacp to the urban league. they avoided all of the conventions a lot of bashing at the republican convention. you know, if that's what people take going into the voting booth, that's, you know, i mean, a couple of statements in the teleprompter carefully red by donald trump about compassion are not going to turn that around. >> change agent. that's what donald trump is supposed to be. this is an issue, a situation, a tragedy that screams out for change. how has he done on this issue? >> well, when you compare donald

trump to hillary clinton, he's always going to win the change agent argument. >> even on this one? >> well, right. just becausant he hasn't been i politics. i won't be politically correct. i will actually face these issues head on and not be afraid to talk about them truthfully. whether you agree with what he said or not, he certainly maintains that sort of blunt tone that earned him this reputation and allowed him to frame his campaign in this way and hillary clinton is someone who her husband was in the white house. she was the senator. she had opportunities to deal with these issues and she has a record of dealing with these issues, as does bill clinton. but that makes it more complicated for her to explain to people that she'll come into the white house with a blank slate and be able to start from scratch. at the same time, she should be pointing out that president obama has made some real progress on these issues. his administration has imposed stricter guidelines on racial

profiling. he has started a conversation about race that is unprecedented at the presidential level by virtue in part of being the first african-american president and hillary clinton has an opportunity to point these things out as she makes the case that she would be a third term essentially for barack obama. >> it's hard for her to point those out. donald trump can point to charlotte and go, it's not working. we still have these issues. >> donald trump's strong point there is a lot of americans, this is very difficult. you don't want to talk about racing and policing and problems. >> thank you so much for being here. did you hear about this? a massive hack at yahoo!. the accounts of, wait for the number, half a billion users compromised in what could be the largest corporate cyberbreach in history. what does this mean if you have an account, next.

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there is new surveillance video in this case and it shows the moment that the new york city bombing suspect plants a pressure cooker bomb hidden inside a carry-on bag. a short time later, two men are

seen taking the bag and leaving the bomb behind. the fbi still hasn't found these two guys and they want to talk to them. a not saying they are persons of interest in terms of the investigation, but what they found in that bag. the video shows several people kicking the pressure cooker. this one never went off. hackers stole account information of at least 500 million users. where does that leave victims of what may be the biggest corporate cyberbreach ever? christine romans joins us with more. >> i've never seen one this big. huge for yahoo! and its users. data from at least 500 million accounts was stolen. the breach happened in late 2014. it was discovered just in august after a known hacker started selling the information from 200 million yahoo! users on the dark web. yahoo! says a state-sponsored actor is behind the breach. interesting, right?

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and birth days. those security questions, they got all that information, too. >> scary. >> it really is. very big breach and just shows you information is out there, it's available for pennies it can be bought by fraudsters and hackers who can use it for nefarious purposes. >> can you ever really be completely safe? christine romans, thank you. the white house is investigating the possible leak of first lady michelle obama's passport. speaking of hacking. a scan of it apparently posted online after a local-level contractor's e-mail was, once again, hacked. press secretary josh earnest told reporters he could not confirm the scan's authenticity but said the white house is taking the apparent leak seriously. the image posted by d.c. leaks. the group also responsible for releasing colin powell's e-mails last week. we are about to show shocking and heartbreaking video. police in massachusetts looking to file child endangerment charges against a mother who apparently overdosed on heroin

in a store with her toddler next to her. investigators have been looking at this youtube video. it has been viewed millions of times by people and it seems to show the woman sprawled out in the aisle of a store as her 2-year-old daughter tugs her hand trying to revive her. you can hear the 2-year-old crying there for her mom. paramedics rushed the woman to the hospital after reviving her with the child is now in custody of child protective services. what a heartbreaking -- >> we know the scope of the problem. we know nothing is stronger than the pull of a drug for an addict, not even having their child there. a little bit of a question there. who is recording that and not going to get the kid right away and trying to comfort the kid. >> we can try to get that answer. dr. drew has told us so many times, this is a problem of chemistry, not character. bt, of course, when you see that, just so hard not to hate

the people involved with hurting their kids like this. but, you know, it's important to remember how everybody is gripped in this problem across the country. all right, so, we're going to take a break. when we come back, charlotte police, as you know, they have not wanted to release the video of the shooting death of keith scott. the family, they did show the video or some of the videos to them and they came out with a very different take, next. [ala♪m beeping]

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we've seen three nights of protest in charlotte, north carolina. last night's one was mostly peaceful because of a curfew and the national guard presence. among those peacefully marching are two people from the charlotte clergy coalition for justs and they are joining us now. lead minister of the universalist church reverend tanner and reverend peter wary. welcome taboth of you. thank you so much for being with us this morning.

i see that you're both wearing yellow arm bands. what do those represent? >> we are. well, when we first gathered on wednesday night, i actually w was -- began out on the streets on tuesday so all of our clergy were with us then. we realized we needed a way to identify the faith leaders who were out there with us with the protesters. so, we began tying yellow arm bands around all the faith leaders so we can be identified. >> reverend tanner, i want tastit to stick with you for one second having the national guard out there but it seems to have worked last night. >> well, i think it depends on your perspective of that. the curfew is not signed until 9:00 p.m. and we have been out in the streets for quite some time and a nonviolent movement well up until 9:00 p.m. so, it's not as if the setting of the curfew at 9:00 p.m. many of ous didnus didn't hear

until 9:00 p.m. or later. they were peacefully assembled and exercising -- >> that's very good to hear that it was peaceful. what about the national guard. did that help? >> again, we have organic leadership here in charlotte. we have organizers in this movement and protesters, community leaders of all ages and we had insisted and asked very strongly that the national guard not be brought in because we knew those leaders could be trusted. they demonstrated their leadership last night. we stood together. faith, community, community leaders, protesters, organizers of all kind and they demonstrated that leadership. >> in fact, the protests were peaceful each night until, until postures were taken by local law enforcement that caused intimidation and fear. >> so, reverend, you think it

was, what do you mean? you think that the police were the impetus for the violence that we saw there? >> what we would say is, i was out there on wednesday night and when you have a line of police in line of riot gear approaching a group of citizens who are unarmed, who are posfuleacefull assembled who are feeling pain woven in the fabric of our city at that time and feeling our community aching and expressing that. but expressing it in a nonviolent way. when they see police coming towards them, much like bringing the national guard in, it militarizes our city. it creates a bodily presence of fear within people who are not armored. and who are not armed. >> well, understood. except that it was a civilian, wasn't it, that shot justin carr, the 26-year-old there who

we learned has tragedy died. >> i was there at the omni when that happened. justin was behind me and i had a colleague beside him. at that point, it was chaos. people were running. some were tripping over others. there was smoke in the air. how anyone could conclude already without an investigation, without any kind of ballistics report, without any independent ballistics report that it was a civilian who shot justin carr. our position and i was there is that in the midst of that chaos, we need to be very careful in rushing to conclusions without thorough investigations. in a time like this where things -- >> just to be clear, you're saying that you think it's possible that the police fired shots? >> i'm saying i do not know. i was there. and we had other clergy who were there who were eyewitnesses and

we all concluded in the midst of that chaos that we would not be able to say definitively what happened. there needs to be a broader investigation looking at the various angles of video footage. we know footage from media that were present there and putting those video clips together, as well, as a ballistic report. >> to be clear -- >> go ahead, reverend. quickly. >> it is important for us to advocate for such an investigation and make conclusions before that is done. and in our view exacerbates the tension. >> reverend whirry and reverend tanner, thank you very much for your perspective. you are on the front lines and you are also calling for the video to be released. nice to talk to you. >> thank you. some lighter news. sports dominates the weekends this season and, guess what, another new quarterback and another win for the new england patriots. their rookie third string qb stands tall in his first nfl

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berssett? who? the third quarterback the new england patriots have had this season and, guess what, they won, again, dominating the texans. coy wire live in east lancing, michigan, home of the michigan state spartans. coy. >> chris, garappolo and playing that position is a pretty good gig for the past. but i got a pretty good gig here, too. east lancing, michigan. the marquise of college football. the eighth ranked spartans taking on the 11th ranked wisconsin badgers of the big 10 matchup. these folks know and love their football here. bill belichick head coach for the patriots. i've never seen a guy be able to plug in players like he does. he knows how to maximize their

strengths. knows how to use their abilities. you have a quarterback all of a sudden that can run the football, let him run the football and score a touchdown. the special teams stepped up for the patriots. the defense stepped up for the patriots. they go out here and pitch a shutout. they win 27-0 over houston. absolutely astounding. now, big college football game in atlanta last night. fifth ranked clemson winning at georgia tech for the first time in 13 years. watson throws for two touchdowns showing why he's one of the favorites to win the heisman this year. clemson 4-0 now has against louisville next weekend. now, some news out of charlotte this morning, the panthers announced their game on sunday against the vikings will go as planned at 1:00 p.m. eastern on sunday. they have the unrest there, of course, in the city. but there was some talking about them moving that game.

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three days away from the biggest moment of this election. the first debate between hillary clinton and donald trump. the nominees are supposed to be spending the weekend preparing for their first big deal. what will matter more? style or substance? so, let's bring in errol lewis, the cnn political commentator and the political anchor of time warner cable news and mark prester is executive editor of cnn politics. we were discussing the segment yesterday alyison was saying for all the talk and preparation it often comes down to the zinger.

who makes the moments in the debate. >> it's a sad testament, but true. is that right, errol? are we right about that? >> the concept can be right and alyison can be wrong. >> i don't know about the concept it to tell you the truth. we all remember the but the reality that is a handy way for us to remember, you know, because the zingers don't matter unless there is a fundamental way behind them. there are people who have great zingers and then gone on to lose the election. so, the fundamentals really do matter. in this case, i think we have candidates who will really play to styles. hillary clinton to put points on the board. put policies out there that are going to appeal to specific constituencies that she's trying to reach for donald trump, he will create moments.

he does that almo. >> donald trump most memorable debate moments. >> first of all, rand paul shouldn't be on this stage. >> you get along with nobody. >> no, excuse me -- >> you cannot take. >> more energy tonight, i like that. he referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you there's no problem. i guarantee you. all right. >> get you every time. >> wow. this is the -- >> this is a family show, isn't it? >> so, one of our discussions about with him, ed, a lot of talk about the debate that hillary clinton, she is a higher standard. i don't get it and i don't accept it. i feel like if this is, if there are expectations, it's on trump. he is standing next to one other person and this is all about not, can he compete. are you able to do the job as well as the person next to you?

i feel like it's all on him to come to prove that night. not on clinton. what's your take? >> i think with camerota on this. i don't want to be with you. i don't want to be in your corner. >> let's save that for later. >> he has proven time and time again that the voters don't necessarily care if he's going to be all in on substance. i do think we're going to see someone different on that stage on monday night than what we saw during the primary. i think it is going to be very different for donald trump to do this, put i do think he will be more reserved on stage. i think a level of focus that he has instituted over the past five or six weeks based upon the new campaign leadership. although i would say this, when we are talking about zingers and what have you, erroll is absolutely right but in this day in age and the ability to take something off a television

screen and cut it up and have it go viral is very important in the days following the debate. >> let's talk about her challenges. we have a matsh up of her memorable debate moments. watch this. >> will you release all of them? >> i'm not sure of the status but i'll look into it. i'm skeptical about your governor to make any kind of commitment like that. what is really behind that question, republicans and democrats, is whether i can stand up to wall street. well, let's have some facts instead of some rhetoric for a change. >> i'm a progressive, but i'm a progressive who likes to get things done. >> errol, what do you think her biggest challenge will be? >> her biggest challenge to avoid the temptation to answer every question or opportunity before her. something will come up, this happens with the e-mailalize s e time.

she'll try to answer the question. when she's explaining it gets longer and longer and starts to sound invasive and the next thing she knows she is off in the weeds instead of doing what she should be doing making the case she should be president and why. so, instead of being nonresponsive, which often happens with other candidates, she's a little too responsive at times. >> how do you handicap it? >> i think evenly matched. you know, people -- look, if 100 million people watch it, which is one of the estimates i've seen. you know, 60%, 70% have already made up their minds and they're going to be looking for confirmation. i'm really interested in the people who are looking at this for the first time, who are really tuning in for the first time and wondering who are these people? >> how do you handicap it? >> i think her difficultsy thy, comes off as not very likable and i think errol is absolutely right. she cannot try to correct him on every falsehood that he may say on that stage because it's going to look like she's on the defensive and, quite frankly, he

has to make sure. >> not somebody else's job anyway. >> apparently not. the modit's aerators are not go do that. that's the direction we're supposedly going in. >> what are you going to do all night. we'll have to check and see. >> thanks for the analysis. a lot of news for you on this friday. let's get to it. >> i'm urging each of you to come together in peace. >> we must work with our police not against our police. >> release the videos! release the videos! >> transparency is in the eye of the beholder. >> don't release some information. release everything. >> you have questions -- >> we have answers. >> too many people have lost their lives who shouldn't have. >> shots fired. >> the death of terence clut.