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final stretch. for clinton, that's the obama coalition of young voters, minorities, and women. this week, the campaign dispatching mothers of the movement, women who lost their children to gun violence. >> we're in a bad place right now. and they're not going to give us what we want. we have to take it. and we do that at the polls. we vote. >> reporter: team trump traveling to the rural eastern part of the state, to the town of keenansville, with a population of less than 900. >> it is great to be in north carolina. >> reporter: and as the candidates both react to this new situation on the ground in charlotte, which no doubt will reverberate throughout the state, sources telling cnn that donald trump is considering a trip to charlotte next week, after the debate. chris and alisyn, his campaign is looking at the logistics of that right now. >> sunlen, thanks so much for all of that reporting. we're following a lot of news this morning, so let's get right to it.
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there must be transparency. >> this officer is being protected. this man's life is not protected. >> this is a national crisis. >> we need to come together, to turn the tide, stop the violence. >> the felony crime of manslaughter in the first degree against officer betty shelby is warranted. >> there was no reason for terence to be shot down. >> shots fired! >> announcer: this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> this is your new day, everyone. welcome. protesters taking to t streets for a third straight night in charlotte, despite a curfew. peaceful dm fuful demonstration. they were chanting, release the tape, over the deadly police shooting of keith lamont scott. what we had was supposed to be a
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huge development. scott's family got to see video from the actual shooting, but they came out of it with a very different account than what we're hearing from the police. this comes as a tulsa police officer, remember, separate shooting there, that police officer on your screen has been indicted. the debate about policing and race continues. let's begin our coverage with cnn's nick valencia live in charlotte. nick? >> reporter: good morning, chris. a welcome sign of relief here. a semblance of normalcy tonight streets of downtown charlotte. this after two nights of riots and chaotic protests. last night was much different. you might attribute that to the presence of national guard or the presence of community leaders in the crowd, but police say last night's protests went smoothly. >> hands up, don't shoot. >> reporter: a third night of protests remain largely peaceful thursday night, despite charlotte officials enacting a midnight curfew.
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a small group thanking national guard members for their service. >> thank you, sir. >> reporter: others laying down in protest over the shooting death of keith lamont scott, and demanding that police video of the incident be released to the public. charlotte's police chief concede the victim doesn't show scott pointing a gun at officers. >> the video does not give me absolute definitive visual evidence that would confirm that a person is pointing a gun. when taken in the totality of all of the other evidence, it supports what we've heard and the version of the truth that we gave about the circumstances >> reporter: despite that, police are standing by their account of what happened, saying scott refused to drop his weapon. >> the gun in question is a small gun, and it was not easy to see with the way the motion was happening. so, it is ambiguous. >> reporter: after massive public outcry, the scott family
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saw two police videos capturing the deadly encounter. >> it was very painful. you know, not just to see him shot and killed, but to see the reactions on the rest of the family members' face. >> reporter: foreigattorneys fo family insist they saw no aggregation in the video, saying, it's possible to discern from the videos what, if anything, mr. shot is holding in his hands. when he was killed, mr. scott's hands were by his side and he was slowly walking backwards. two wildly different accounts as more evidence is uncovered. this photo taken by an eyewitness appears to show a black object on the ground, which a source close to the investigation says a gun recovered by authorities. >> we're just not sure about that photo and other photos that may depict it. we did not see a gun in the video. >> they just shot my baby's dad! >> reporter: after the shooting, scott's daughter suggested the gun was planted by the police. >> he was sitting in the car
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reading a [ bleep ] book! my daddy ain't got no [ bleep ] gun! >> reporter: but police are adamant. >> the preponderance of physical evidence there supports exactly what we made in our initial statement. that yes, he had a weapon. yes, he refused to drop that weapon and our officer fired as he perceived that imminent threat. >> reporter: the investigation into the shooting death of keith scott is now in the hands of the north carolina bureau of investigation. yesterday, we spoke to an official who said he had seen some of that police video and said that it was clear to him that keith scott made an obvious threat towards police officers, which cost him his life. that's not the interpretation the scott family had after viewing the video. they're demanding the release of the tape so the public can make up their own mind. chris? >> all right, nick, it gets to be a little bit of a tricky situation. the expectation is if the video is out there, you get to see for yourself what happened. that assumes that it will be clear. now earlier on "new day," we spoke to the attorney for keith scott's family. he has seen the videos that were
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shown to the family. he told us what he saw and he told us how the family's handling this very difficult situation. here it is. >> you know, it was difficult. it was very painful for them to watch it, but also see their other family members in pain as a result of what they saw. it's my understanding that his wife was actually out the there at the time of the original shooting. so this was her chance to, i guess, see the shooting again. but it was very difficult for them >> so the whole point of this is to gain clarity. what did they see in the video? >> absolutely. you know, all the family wants to know is why this happened and what the -- what the accurate facts are. what we see on the video is mr. scott, the officers are yelling commands, he steps out of his vehicle, doesn't appear to be acting aggressive whatsoever. is not making any quick moves,
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moving slowly, you know, he doesn't appear to be arguing or yelling at law enforcement. his hands are down by his side. you can see what appears to be some type of object in his hand, but he never raises it at any point. actually, when he's shot, it looks like he's stepping backwards. so, you know, a lot of this is this talk of whether he had a gun, whether he had a book. you know, i know, and those who have been involved in these situations deeply understand the fact that for every person that may have seen something, they're going to have their own viewpoint. that's why we come in and we're not, you know, throwing out accusations. we just want to know the facts. at the end of the day, if it is proven and the evidence supports that he did have a firearm, i can tell you that based on what i saw on those two videos yesterday, i believe it's still questionable as to whether or not he should have been shot and killed. >> and listen, there's no question that in legal analysis,
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just having the weapon alone in an open carry state would not be dispositive of imminent threat. but let's take one step back, if he could, counselor. what started a lot of the tension here was, without judgment, that a family member said, he was reading a book, my father doesn't have a gun. the police then said, we recovered a weapon at the scene. we have seen photos that were supposedly put out by some bystander that seems to show an object on the ground that looks like a gun. in the video, do you accept the idea from the police that he was armed at the time? that mr. scott was armed? >> based on the two videos that we saw yesterday, you do not see a gun at any point in either one of those videos. you know, the daughter, of course, she put that video out. she said he had a book. you know based on his usual pattern, he does sit in that
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vehicle, he does read a book. his mother has confirmed that, his family has confirmed that. but, you know, we have to be honest about these situations is, you know, every spouse doesn't know any and everything about their spouse. every child doesn't know any and everything about their loved one. so, again, if at the end of the day the evidence shows that there was a gun recovered from the scene and that gun was on his person, then we have to deal with that. but the key point here is, the process. it's the transparency. it's the family deserves to know why their loved one was shot and killed. and we need to know all of the facts. and you just kind of analyze things as you move forward. >> so, i mean, you have to see the cops showing the family the video is a step in the right direction. but after watching it, what's your best sense of what happened? do you see the officer involved? is he in a uniform? is he not? you know, what is your perspective that you got to see in the video?
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>> well, my perspective, when you look at the video, you've also got to go back to the fact that they -- why were they interacting with him at all in the first place? it's our understanding, and they have said, that they were out in that location to serve a warrant on someone who was not him. so i don't know why they were aggressive towards him. but looking at the video, there are still plenty of questions. you know, he was not aggressive, again. he didn't appear to be combative. he didn't appear to be yelling anything at the officers. and quite frankly, he looked a tad bit confused. and that may have been because, in these situations, you get multiple officers, located in multiple positions, yelling multiple commands. i don't know, i was not there with hum. and again, when he was shot, it appears as though he was stepping backwards. i don't know many people who want to go on the offensive of
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moving in the opposite direction. >> did you get to see the officers in the video. >> you can actually see pretty clearly two officers who were located on the opposite side of a pickup truck, i guess using that as cover, looking at the vehicle mr. scott was in. you can kind of see the alleged shooter in the corner of the dash cam footage. but, you know, it's not really that clear -- >> could you tell they were cops? >> you know, i don't know. hindsight is 20/20. when i look at this, i see people in plain clothes, wearing a vest. i can't make out anything that may be on that vest. it's unclear as to what mr. scott may have been able to see from his viewpoint. so i don't know. i don't know if they identified themselves as police. all i know is that when that dash cam cut on, when that body cam is on, mr. scott is in his
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car and shortly thereafter, he steps out. >> so interesting to hear all of the different takes and the different perspective on the video. we think, well, if they release the video, that will solve the question. not necessarily. >> no. and eyewitness testimony is always tough. watching these videos is tough. what's the angle? a lot of them have no sound. that's huge for two reasons. one, if there is no sound, you're never going to have objective balance on that. you'll have to take the testimony of those who were at the scene, largely the officers. the other thing you have to remember is, well, what are we -- what are we trying to figure out? we're trying to figure out if you can make a case that this was wrong beyond a reasonable doubt. >> and that's the legal case. i'm trying to figure out if he had a gun. that's it. i'm trying to figure out if he had a gun, and the fact that all the different perspectives are not even clear on that. they can't tell exactly what he had in his hand. we can't tell if it was planted or not planted. >> the lawyer says that they couldn't. the police have been very clear, from the beginning, that they
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recovered a gun, there was a gun, and the testimony is that there was a gun. >> the mayor who has saw it said she's unclear on what he had in his hand. there are still questions, even for people who have seen it. anyway, that's charlotte. now, the tulsa police officer who shot and killed that unarmed black man earlier this week is freed on $50,000 this morning. officer betty shelby, though, is now facing felony manslaughter charges. cnn's ana cabrera is live in tulsa with the latest. good morning, ana. >> reporter: good friday morning, alisyn. we know more than 50 people were interviewed, pictures, video, all analyzed, the entire investigation complete and charges brought just six days after the fatal shooting. this morning, the crutcher family is calling this a small victory. tulsa police officer betty shelby turning herself in and released on bond overnight, charged with the shooting death of 40-year-old terence crutcher. >> we know that nothing that happens, not charges, not
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convictions, not sentencing, nothing will bring terence back. >> i determined that the filing of the federal crime of manslaughter in the first-degree against tulsa police officer betty shelby is warranted. >> reporter: the felony manslaughter charge coming less than a week after the shooting was captured on this police helicopter video. crutcher, walking with his hands up, just moments before he's gunned down by shelby. >> shots fired! >> reporter: the prosecutor's office alleging officer shelby reacted unreasonably by escalating the situation from a confrontation with mr. crutcher, who was not responding to verbal commands and who was walking away from her with his hands up, becoming emotionally involved to the point that she overreacted. shelby told investigators she feared crutcher was reaching into his car, potentially for a weapon. no weapon was found at the scene. >> she thought if she didn't take action right then, everyone would be in peril of serious bodily harm or death. >> all we know is what we saw in the video. we didn't see any point of mr.
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crutcher, terence, being noncompliant. >> reporter: crutcher's family attorneys questioning the officer's story by pointing to an enhand picture of the window. >> you can see that it is completely up and there is blood going almost to the top of the window. >> reporter: cnn has independently analyzed the video frame by frame, zooming in. it does appear that the window is up and that a reflection of his arms in the window is visible. >> we're demanding full prosecution. we want a conviction, and when that happens, this is a small victory. but we know, we've got to get ready to fight this war. >> now, manslaughter in the first degree is a very serious charge, carrying a possible penalty of four years, up to life in prison, if convicted. we reached out to the attorney for officer shelby, we have not heard back from him this morning. i also want to point out that while the video may seem conclusive, experts say it is
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a self-proclaimed law and order candidate, is promising an anti-crime agenda. hillary clinton is also calling for police reform. who's handled this situation better this week? who was the better plan? let's discuss. cnn political commentator and vice chair of the new york state democratic party, christine quinn, and cnn political commentator and trump supporter, kayleigh mcenany. christine, why has hillary clinton handled this recent spate of shootings better than trump? >> well, i think she's handled -- pardon me, handled it better, because she realized what's happened this weekend is connected to all of the things that came before it. and that this really reflects a tremendous break down in our entire criminal justice system. and you have to look at it, you have to, obviously, respond, as you guys have been talking about this morning, correctly to these shootings and that is happening now in the justice process. but you have to look more broadly. so when secretary clinton calls to reform the entire criminal justice system with a particular focus on prisons, and is the only candidate really talking
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about that, although we have about 5% of the world's population in the united states, we have 25% of the criminal population, those in jails. and her calls to change who's going to jails, to change how we're dealing with low-level offenders will change how the police are interacting with communities and be a core to reducing the adversarial disconnect that's part of what's fueling this week and what we've seen, sadly, for quite some time. >> kayleigh, what do you think is wrong with that approach? >> first of all, the reason we have so many people incarcerated is in large part due to the clinton administration and the crime bill and the superpredator terminology that came out from hillary clinton herself. that's part of it, but when i step back, we need someone who's going to unify this country. i think this country has never been so divided. you have hillary clinton calling half of the country deplorable or desperate -- >> half of his supporters. half of trump's supporters? >> right, which is, i think, 40,
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50% of the country, i think over half of the country. but donald trump said something very important in the wake of these shootings. he said, we need to learn to walk in the shoes of the other person. when the sandra bland incident that happened. he was the only gop candidate to speak out about that and say, this was a terrible situation. that woman was treated horribly. in the wake of this most recent shooting in tulsa, he stepped back and said, this was a troubling incident to him. he is seeing the other side and also supporting officers. he's really trying to bring people together. hillary clinton was best on this issue and quite honestly, silent on it when donald trump was trying to bring the two sides together. >> distinguish, kayleigh, why he is bringing sides together and not enflaming both sides. if you track over time, when we had the last rash of shootings, trump was all in for the police, saying that black lives matter were making it worse. that they was being negative in his classification of what was happening on the streets. and in this situation, before we know anything about what's going
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on, he said that the officer choked. then he said he's out there for the blacks. you're living in the worst situation you ever have, which is patently false. and then he says a solution in a place like chicago is stop and frisk, which those communities don't like and already have in chicago. so it depends on how it's applied. however, is that ping-ponging unifying? >> no, i don't think he's ping-ponging. i think he's objectively analyzing situations. what happened in tulsa, he was correct about that. this officer was charged -- >> we do not know that she choked. she's been indicted. we don't know what happened, let alone -- >> she will have her day in court, but i contrast that to the obama administration, with ferguson, where there was a rush to judgment. he demonized a private citizen. he sent eric holder there, he stoked tensions. ferguson burned. and this country has never been more divided. we need someone who's going to unify us. i think donald trump is objectively looking at situations, and that is what we need. >> first, we do need someone who's going to unify us. that's hillary clinton. if it wasn't hillary clinton, let's be very clear. but if it is hillary clinton,
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donald trump is the last person in the universe who is going to be able to bring us together. we see in this case, as you just said, him rushing to judgment. we see him saying that african-americans are in the worst situation they've ever been in, totally negating slavery, jim crow, the entire civil rights fight that goes on. this is a man who has spoken down to the african-american community, attacked -- and the way you treat one community reflects how he treats others. look how he's treated mexican and latino immigrants and women. this is a man who's based his entire campaign on divisive rhetoric that has split us apart. and then you look at the people who are part of the campaign apparatus. and again, like your mother told you, you are who you hang around with. and you have people on his campaign who have been said completely racist statements. have been associated with white supremacist groups.
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you have the vice presidential candidates, governor pence, being unwilling on cnn to call david duke deplorable. >> because he said he doesn't comment. >> but he could have then said something about his views, and he didn't. he chose to say nothing! >> it's a perfect example of what's wrong with the clinton campaign. when donald trump is going into black communities, trying to court what are traditionally hillary clinton or democratic voters, he's trying to bridge the divide and bring people to his side, while hillary clinton is just ost tracizing the other side. they're deplorable, we're all racist, zeeb noboxenophobic, ho whatever the words she used. >> but let's be honest, there are people associated with the trump campaign who are those things. >> there are people associated with the hillary clinton -- >> yeah -- >> -- they're talking about supporter who is support the campaign. i don't know if we win that one.
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there's obviously deplorable people who can support any candidate. but i the want to show one th k thing, kayleigh, which i think will be a challenge for your side and donald trump, and that is the latest quinnipiac poll about bigotry. even if donald trump is trying now to reach across the aisle and saying things that he empathizes about walking in people's shoes, here it is, does trump's talk appeal to bigotry? still, 61% of respondents across the board think, yes, that's a challenge. >> i think hillary clinton has succeeded as falsely caricaturing supporters, the movement. i think she's wrong about that. i think when people sit down and look at what donald trump offers, this isn't someone who's trying to divide. he's been char acttured about that. how what she has done bridges the divide, i'm at a loss. >> a man who disregards slavery or jim crow. who tells african-americans t a
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tells african-americans that they have nothing to lose, as if their life has no merit, who vilifies mexican americans, who attacks immigrants, that's not the clinton campaign misrepresenting him. and let's give voters some credit. they're not somehow spun into a position on what donald trump is or isn't related to bigotry. they've looked at the facts, they made that decision. those are americans seeing what they see and calling it what it is. >> no, it's a false caricature that you've created. >> americans are not -- >> last word. >> this race is an absolute dead heat. if donald trump was as bad as you've said, you would have former employees on the air coming out and supporting what you're saying. >> he is that bad. >> you have people saying, he evaluated me in the company. >> people still work there and have a paycheck there. >> thank you both very much for being here. the election is now 46 days away and every day on the campaign trail hits. who won the week? who won this weeks in politics?
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all right, it has been a very busy week.
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it's hard to believe that the terror bombings and the -- >> less than a week ago. >> all in one week, the deadly police shootings, they all happened during the course of this week. so, naturally, that dominated the talk on the campaign trail. here's a quick look at how donald trump and hillary clinton responde responded. >> just before i got off the plane, a bomb went off in new york. >> i think it's always wiser to wait until you have information before making conclusions. >> i'm not using the term muslim. i'm going to say you have to start profiling. >> we have two more names to add to a list of african-americans killed by police officers and it needs to become intolerable. >> i would do stop and frisk. i think you have to. >> we are safer when communities respect the police and police respect communities. >> it just seems that there's a lack of spirit between the white and the black.
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>> okay, so who won this week in politics? with us is cnn political director, david chalian. david, great to have you here. what's the answer? who won? >> i've been thinking about these two big news events, the bombings and the police and criminal justice issues that were front and center. and i think, in this election, which is all about, i think, much more about getting your base out than it is about persuasion of the middle, i think they both made gains this week on these issues. i think that both -- that donald trump was able to play the strong, hit obama and clinton as weak, after the bombings and play to law and order, like mike pence was saying, there's this bias against police. i think they were able to really play and motivate their base. and hillary clinton was able to do the same for her. if you are looking for the steady leadership, the temperament difference between the two, and you like a calmer temperament, as hillary clinton is portraying herself against donald trump, that worked for you against the bombings, and the african-american base, the way you're talking about what happened in charlotte and tulsa, i think, is a motivator for that
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key part of the obama coalition. i think this week in terms of those news events that we just looked at worked for both candidates to fortify their perspecti candidates. >> two other perspectives, what hurt this week, and not the base, but this slice of people, you may have 10 to 20 million watching on monday night, who don't know yet who they want. how did it ask those? >> i don't think the answer is clear. i will tell you what i think donald trump this week was more stories about his foundation. and i think that -- here's why. i don't think those voters, chris, in the middle, are going to be talking about the intricacies of the trump foundation and whether or not he paid himself back, butt i think it goes to a broader character frame. and a story like that can take hold if it is about trump's character, that he's lining his own pockets in some way. portraits of himself. >> it's a felony, by the way, self-dealing. >> if, indeed, that is -- >> if it's proved. >> if it's proved.
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but i think that as a negative character frame on him could have legs and i think that's -- >> in the win column was something very big, if we can pull that up, closing the swing state gap for polls in donald trump. >> listen, we saw a lot of polling, and what we're seeing this election is these battleground states are sort of following the national polls, right? we see the national poll sort of first come out. we saw that he consolidated republican support, the closing of some of those national polls a couple weeks ago, when hillary clinton was having a rough couple of weeks and now we're seeing that play out in the battleground states. you see in quinnipiac polls that came out last week, he jumped nine points between their last poll in august and now and brought that race within two. jumped six points in iowa, jumped five points in virginia. hillary clinton is not going necessarily down in iowa. she held steady in virginia, she actually ticked up in colorado. but he had a big jump from those polls in mid-august to now, because he's consolidating that republican support. i will say, look at the national polls this week. there have been a couple out now that show hillary clinton with a
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six-point national lead or so. so i wonder, if she, indeed, is gaining some more strength, in the next round of battleground state polls, if we start seeing -- >> let's look at her wins and losses in each column and what you think were her big wins and her losses. let's just look at that pap tie in florida, despite spending. >> listen, florida is critical. and i think of all the remaining battleground states, true toss-up states, florida, ohio, north carolina, nevada, i think florida is mission one for the clinton campaign. they, although donald trump right now looking at our map can win all those battleground states and she's still in good position, that is a battleground state that they do not, because it's such a big electoral prize, they don't want to play fire with that. and i think the fact that it's closer there, you'll see more activity from clinton. >> this fundamental question of who can be president. who can own that job. do you think it's answered on monday night. >> i think it is going to begin to be answered. for some people, it's answered
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already, obviously, but to your point about those 10 million to 20 million people, i think that's the biggest thing they walk away from monday night, making that assessment. if, witindeed, donald trump pas the test of appearing presidential, that you can envision him in the oval office for those who have not yet made that decision, that could be a big leap for him. if, indeed, hillary clinton can continue to try to disqualify, now she's doing successfully for those 10 to 20 million in the middle that's watching, that would go a long way for her. >> even if she has a marginal moment, like what happened just now with stop and frisk. he's talk about police shootings. he kind of segues to chicago and says, i would do stop and frisk. a moment like that on a debate stage, where chicago has stop and frisk, and african-american communities don't like stop and frisk. it's been found to be unconstitutional, on a debate stage, something like that, the combination of being tone deaf and wrong, that could loom a lot larger than it has during the coverage of this week. >> it provides a huge opening in realtime to your opponent.
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but the test there is, how does hillary clinton seize ton that moment? i think that is -- if he provides that kind of opportunity, with bad information, counterfactual information, and bad tone, how she seizes on that moment will be critical as to how it's scored. >> so you're giving them a draw on who won the week. the zack galfanaiks "between two terms," let's watch this. >> i think people deserve to know, are you down with tpp? >> i'm not down with tpp. >> no, you're supposed to say, yeah, you know me, like the hip hop -- >> don't tell me what to say. >> how do you think -- i mean, these are very entertaining, but what is the point of doing these if you're a candidate? who's she appealing to there? >> there she's appealing to
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millennials or young people who go to funny or die all the time. and that goes viral and they catch that on every device that they're on. there's no doubt that was a young voter play. but it's hilarious. hillary clinton, any candidate, quite frankly, how uncomfortable is it to have to play total dead -- you know, just deadpan and you're next to the guy who's doing outrageous things, when your whole life is to not to associate with people who are doing -- >> you have to learn yourself not to take yourself seriously. the favorite line is, who made your pantsuit, he says, i want to know, because for halloween, i want to go -- for halloween, i want to go dressed as a librarian from outer space. >> she let it slide right by. >> there was a lot of good moments in that. david chalian, thank you very much. nice to have a little bit of fun at the end of the week. of course, we have had a week of covering a lot of intense news.
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you, me, we probably would have given up. but when a new jersey transit officer found himself in a tug-of-war with a man on train tracks, he did not give up. he mustered all his strength and he saved a life. cnn's miguel marquez caught up
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with this hero who really went beyond the call of duty. >> reporter: a speeding train, a suicidal man holding tightly to the tracks. a police officer faced with a life-or-death decision, seconds to spare. >> i took an oath to protect and serve and that was an instance where i needed to protect. >> reporter: officer victor ortiz had worked overnight, about to clock out when the unthinkable coming. >> i've got a train coming down the tracks. i need the train to stop. >> he crossed over to this track, track two, and started running. so i began to run and i pretty much cut him off right here. >> reporter: he cut off a suicidal man, clinging to the tracks, repeating the words, "i want to die." watch how close the call is. >> ortiz has cuffed one risk, desperately pulling the nearly 300-pound man, as a train on the express track, doing about 60
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miles per hour hits the brakes, but it will never stop in time. >> i looked up to see where the train was and it's pretty much half way in. and i said, i got to let this guy go. there's no way i'm going to be able to. -- >> so one more tug. >> one more tug. >> that final effort saved the day and the life of 56-year-old alan jefferson, who had ignored ortiz's orders to calm down before the incident spiraled into this. jefferson later apologized to the officer and now faces several charges. >> so, this is the camera that captured all of this. >> correct. >> reporter: it's terrifying to watch that little snippet of video. and this is the exact spot where it happened, yes? >> correct. every life for me matters sfp he put himself in harm's way and my job is to protect and serve, you know, the riding public, as well. >> protecting, serving, doing his job, such an heroic job on
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this day, even his 13-year-old daughter was impressed. >> she went to school, and everybody was like, we saw your dad on tv, oh, my god. the principal, the teachers, they're asking her, you know, how you feel about it. she's, you know, well, i'm happy, i'm happy for my dad, i'm very proud of him. >> reporter: miguel marquez, cnn, new york. >> oh, my gosh. we need to follow up and find out if being saved helped this suicidal guy have new faith in life. >> i don't know, but that guy, strong body, way stronger spirit. >> absolutely. what a beautiful story. we have another one for you. speaking of heros, this cnn hero, dr. edwin smith has worked for decades to stop an epidemic in this country. it is tooth decay and it is an appalachia. it is five times more common than asthma and 20 times more common that diabetes. watch this. >> i've had people get up out of the chair, look in the mirror, and they cry. people who before wouldn't even let you see their teeth. now they've got these big white smiles. that's one of the most rewarding
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have you ever felt threatened by this population? >> on a daily basis. i was spit on last monday. it's part of the job, unfortunately. and that's why they're inside of the pods, chained to the tables, because they will hurt other people. >> that's because she's working in a prison. that is a preview from the season premiere of the cnn original series, "this is life." lisa ling goes to the l.a. county jail, the large test in the nation. many of the more than 17,000 convicts there are dealing with mental illness, making it just a place to hold inmates, but also one of the country's largest mental health institutions. cnn host lisa ling joins us now. great to have you back, my friend. and obviously, there's a distinction between prison and jail. usually has to do with term of state, but not when you get to l.a. county. now you're dealing with a world in and of itself. >> you're right, l.a. county jail is maybe the world's largest jail and the world's
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largest mental health institution in the country. and there is a huge percentage of that population that is serving out sentences because the prisons in california are so grossly overcrowded. and we got unprecedented access inside to just see how this massive system operates. and as you know, it's one that has been mired in controversy over the last few years, as a result of allegations of inmate abuse and a cover-up that led all the way to the previous sheriff. so this is an opportunity for the new sheriff to open his doors to us, to show what they're trying to do, to combat those allegations, and to create change. >> so what did you see? what surprised you in there? >> well, 20% of the inmate population consists of mentally ill inmates. and what i saw in the twin towers, which is -- which was actually constructed to be a maximum security jail, but is now entirely a mental health institution. i mean, it's also the biggest distributor of psychotropic drugs in this country, and the pressure that these deputies are under is unbelievable. i mean, the threats that they
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receive are -- i've just never really seen anything like it. and they've just implemented new forms of training for these deputies. i mean, when people went into the department, they didn't learn how to deal with mentally ill, but now they have to. and they seem to be rising to the occasion. >> what do you see in terms of, you had the crossover of mental illness, a lot of it's addiction. you have an addiction base. what's your sense of whether or not peep are in there getting better or just being kind of stabilized? >> it's hard to say, chris, because the big problem is that jails weren't built to be mental health institutions. and so they have no choice but to chain inmates to the table, to tables. you know, it requires -- it costs about $70,000 to house an inspect in the l.a. county jail. it would certainly be much less if they had access to a proper mental health facility. so, are they getting better? it's hard to tell. i mean, they're not equipped to really deal with this population. they're just doing the best they
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can, because there's no other place for these people. >> so that sheriff's deputy that you interviewed there, who said she was just spit on earlier in the week, how does she come gbak day after day? >> well, they picked the right people for the job in the twin towers the facility. the people that i met deal with incredibly difficult situations. and she's actually been a deputy for a very long time. again, she didn't go into the department thinking she would deal with this population, but she's very passionate about her job. and just communicating with these inmates and treating them like human beings is something that she, again, never thought that she -- that that notion of communicating was something that she never thought she would be doing on her job. but now it's become very commonplace for deputies to be doing that. >> oh, my gosh, lisa, it's fascinating. thanks so much for sharing it with us. i look really forward to watching it, as will everyone. be sure to watch "this is life with lisa ling." it is sunday night at 10:00 p.m., only on cnn. newsroom with carol costello
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and good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me in charlotte, north carolina. the calls for transparency are growing louder, even as protests quiet down overnight. the violence of 24 hours
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earlier, largely replaced by peaceful chants to release the tapes. protesters demanding that city officials release the video recordings of keith lamont scott, as he was shot to death by charlotte police. his family shown those videos yesterday, saying it's not clear what scott was holding. the gun that police claim, or a book, as they continue to insist. joining me now, charlotte's mayor, jennifer roberts. welcome, mayor. >> good morning. >> good morning. thank you so much for being here, because i know you're a busy woman these days and you must be exhausted. so last night's protests were largely peaceful. to what do you attribute that to? >> well, i want to thank all the folks who were involved, our law enforcement officers, even our state troopers and national guard, all the folks here, police, fire and medic, and also the faith

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