so many things are going wrong and it's coming down to, you know, multiple tours and not having the resources that they need. so, you know, talking about the va and all the other things that we spoke about. it all stands together. >> brandon, we only have a few seconds left. what do you think the answer is? if you could share it with the president beyond better recruitment? >> we have a country that is so patriotic, but like you said when it comes time to put in the work, not everybody wants to do that. we need more people to step up. men and women. everybody that's here to be held accountable for everything that's going on. you know, not only in our country but all over the world. if you want to have a say in what is, you know, what is best for our country, you need to stand up and do the right thing. >> thank you for taking part in that. thank you for sharing your personal story with us and all of the viewers and we do want to follow up and find out what action the president takes, particularly with you, donna, after your question to him. thank you, we will stay in touch. we appreciate you being here.

>> thank you very much. we're following a lot of news this morning so let's get right to it. >> the next 40 days will determine the next 40 years. >> how many more clinton scandals can this country take? >> the president just can't pop off or lash out irrationally. >> hillary clinton lacks the character and judgment to hold public office. >> if you wrote for a third party candidate, that is a vote for trump. >> i don't think she did well in the debate at all. >> isn't this one of the strangest elections you've ever seen? >> i am deeply sorry that we failed to fulfill on our responsibility. round two for wells fargo ceo on capitol hill today. >> you should resign. give back the money that you took while this scam was going on and be criminally investigated. this is "new day" with chris

cuomo and alisyn camerota. the attacks are about to get uglier and more personal, exactly what trump promised not to do. bill clinton's infidelities against hillary clinton. trump himself ramps up his attacks on her health. meanwhile, clinton is getting a boost from some of the biggest names in the democratic party. a lot at stake and 40 days until the election and own oly ten days until the next presidential debate. we have it all covered for you. phil mattingly. good morning. >> prevailing message out of trump tower to top advisors and surrogates. it is time to go on offense as the advisors work behind the sceness to help donald trump before the next debate. >> i don't think she did well in the debate at all. i don't think she did well at all. >> reporter: despite pundit after pundit calling donald

trump a debate loser the candidate himself remains convinced otherwise. >> we had the debate the other night and every single online poll had me winning by sometimes a land slide. >> reporter: trump citing unscientific surveys. surveys that allow anyone to vote multiple times. but as trump remains defiant, his advisors are moving to sharpen his debate skills and attacks on hillary clinton before the next faceoff. hitting clinton in releases and online and back-to-back speeches on her connections to wall street and corporate interests. >> hillary clinton is an insider fighting for her donors. i am an outsider fighting for you. we're fighting together. >> reporter: the democratic nominee deploying her party's biggest guns to undercut trump's efforts. >> when making life or death, war or peace decisions, a president just can't pop off or lash out irrationally. no. we need an adult in the white

house. >> reporter: all while trump takes his most explicit shots at clinton's health yet. >> you see all the days off that hillary takes. day off, day off, day off. all those day offs and then she can't even make it to her car. isn't it tough? >> reporter: giving his biggest supporters in iowa exactly what they want. trump unscripted and off the cuff. touting his support among evangelical voters. trump jokingly singled out nonchristian conservative supporters in the crowd. >> raise your hand if you're not a christian conservative. i want to see this. there's a couple people. that's all right. i think we should keep them in the room. should we keep them in the room? i think so. >> reporter: a light hearted somewhat awkward moment during that rally. that off the cuff way of doing things is really important now,

especially in iowa. here's why. early voting starts today and that's a big thing for both of these campaigns. guys in 2012 44% of iowa voters cast their votes early. this is an area where democrats traditionally have a major advantage. the trump campaign trying to reverse that. that's why donald trump was in counsel bluffs yesterday. volunteers all over the place trying to boost those efforts. it's huge for the campaigns to be able to bank those votes early. >> thank you very much. hillary clintoncome pains in the battleground state of iowa just as early voting begins there. it was all hands on deck wednesday as clinton is courting millennial voters with the help of bernie sanders. first lady michelle obama and daughter chelsea. how did that go? live in washington for us, chris? >> good morning, chris. hillary clinton is trying to dip into the political fountain of youth urging millennials to vote for her in november. closing the deal among young voters many of which promoted

bernie sanders in the primary. sanders trying to use his mojo to help his former rival and clinton used it to resonate with young voters like climate change. >> this election is enormously important for the future of our country. it is imperative that we elect hillary clinton as our next president. >> it's not just my name on the ballot. every issue you care about. >> but she has a lot of work to do. clinton leading trump among young voters by just four points. with third-party candidate gary johnson grabbing 11%. now, four years ago president obama won young voters by 29%, according to exit polls. and yesterday, first lady michelle obama told a crowd in pennsylvania that a vote for a

third-party candidate like johnson was essentially a vote for donald trump. and the clinton camp is set to turn up the volume on that message in the coming weeks. sanders is planning to ramp up his campaigning in the final month hitting key battleground states like pennsylvania, ohio and wisconsin as they try to turn out young voters, alisyn. >> thanks for all of that. we want to discuss it now with hillary clinton supporter melissa and cnn political commentator and former donald trump campaign manager corey. now, in previous appearances we told you that corey was still receiving severance from the trump campaign, that is no longer the case, we are told. are you done with those payments? >> amazing. everything comes to an end. >> i didn't think those would ever run out. >> 40 days to go to the election. >> let's talk about the campaign. so, cnn got its hands on the talking point that the trump

campaign puts out to its surrogates every day. the messaging that they want to say on the media. obviously, the hillary clinton campaign puts out the same thing. we happen to have our hands on the trump one. what you all are supposed to be talking about is talking more about bill clinton's past infidelities, as well as why hillary clinton was off the campaign trail for four days. perhaps there is something wrong with her health. really? are these the things that americans want to hear about? why are these the talking points? >> if you look at 1a story of "washington post" talks about the infidelities of the clinton administration and what role hillary clinton had. these are not the talking points of the clinton campaign but the "washington post" who is talking about a 40-year history and specifically in that story references george stephanopoulos who at the time worked for the administration who has quoted hillary clinton as saying, we must destroy these women who are

going after bill. >> and the reason that the "washington post" did it it came up on the campaign trail and they are trying to get to what happened in the '80s and '90s. >> "washington post" felt they needed to take another pass. >> donald trump took a beating at the debate. not only was she first lady, she ran for the senate of new york. all of this mud has been dug up before. now, secretary of state that was vetting in a congressional congress she was vetted. now ran for a second time and second time running for the president of the united states. this is mud that was dug up before. people have voted on her candidacy and she has won. new yorkers are very discerning voters. so, i think that this is just a strategy to deviate, again, because donald trump so poorly and took a beating in front of 88 million viewers. >> corey, are you confident this is a winning strategy to bring

all this up, again? >> hillary clinton calling into question what donald trump has said and what his path has been with women. he had women executives in his company and he has a 40-year history of putting women in positions of power in his corporation to make sure because he puts the best person for the job, regardless of race or gender or anything else. >> a response to the machato stuff coming up about when she was miss universe and gained some weight. >> no one wants to talk about what hillary clinton has said and done when it comes to her husband and attacking women -- look, it's different now. >> that has been set aside. donald trump is not a prepared candidate. he cannot speak to the issues and he did not have plans. hillary clinton very much told us -- >> hillary clinton attacks the victims is what she did. she attacked the victims and she doesn't want to talk about that. here's what they did. the clinton campaign took a person and brought her into a debate who has been part of a

murder. we know that. true. >> yes. >> has threatened a federal judge. >> never charged, never indicted, never convicted. >> a federal judge. and that's true. threatened a federal judge on television. widely reported. >> listen, these are 20-year-old things. but, sure, i hear you. she's saying her story should be discounted, fine, that's your take. but, again, where are the issues? i mean, often you guys say, look, we shouldn't focus on all these side issues. >> let's talk about trade and immigration. we did not hear one word in the presidential debate in front of 88 million people about illegal immigration. not one word. that's a travesty because the american people should understand where both of these candidates stand. let syrian refugees increase the number of refunali-- why aren't talking about the issues of illegals. why aren't we talking about

illegals. >> will you have your candidate bring it up even if the moderator doesn't bring it up. >> the questions are asked by the individuals in the format and what we saw in the previous debates is the candidates who engage those individuals directly. >> we're not even sure if he will show up to the debate. >> will he show up to the debate? >> of course he'll show up to the debate. >> rudy giuliani said he wasn't sure if he would show up. >> he will be at the three debates. >> the town hall does work better for donald trump. he likes interacting with the crowd. he does feed off the crowd. any concern from the clinton camp? >> no, what we have to look at are what are the plans of action. again, if you take the debate that we just saw and witnessed, donald trump could not in any way answer the questions directly and speak to the issues that were being presented to him. i think people want to see a presidential candidate who has a vision, who wants to come and bring the country together and not divide us, which is the

rhetoric of donald trump. anti-immigrant, antilatino and middle class. that's not the country we want to live in and the country we want to live. we want a vision to create more jobs and move this country forward. that is not what donald trump represents. >> i want to get you to respond to something. "newsweek" has a cover story. about how donald trump did business with cuba while there was a u.s. embargo. let me play for you what the reporter said about this story. >> trump in 1998 through one of his companies tried to arrange for dealings in cuba. they sent a consultant down. the cost of the entire endeavor was $68,000. at a time when american companies are not allowed to spend a penny in cuba. and one of the most outrageous things in this. in the documents i have, after

the trip is taken, after the $68,000 is expended, there is a memo talking about, well, how to make it look like it was legal. >> did mr. trump do business with cuba? >> look, i haven't seen the report. obviously, the embargo just got lifted. we're talking about something that took place 18 years ago. no evidence it took place. other than a report from "newsweek." >> it is still irrelevant. >> did it take place is the real question. we don't know if it took place. the trump organization is not responsive. a first-hand account of what hillary clinton is like and then being discredited and saying this didn't take place. >> talking point number 18 here in the talking point memo. redirect. >> american people want a president who remembers what the answers are. amazing to me during a presidential debate with 88 million people hillary clinton can remember every single word

but when she's investigated by the fbi, i don't erm,remember, don't recall. >> if we add this case to the article and the reporting that came out a couple weeks ago about all the transactions and all the dealings that donald trump has internationally and the conflict that creates, very troubling. what you have to judge a presidential candidate on is their actions. as businessman, there is a lot of conflict there that he's bringing into the white house. that is of great concern, as it should be. anybody who defies laws of this country. we would love to see the tax returns. it should be a concern to the voters and i believe it will be a concern. >> everybody can read it for themselves this morning. >> the clinton foundation should be held accountable. they have made hundreds of millions of dollars since they left public office. hundreds of millions of dollars. and. >> and charitable contributions. >> they haven't saved anybody's life. >> hold on one second, are you telling me, hold on.

they have partnered with the gates foundation and other foundations and that's great and they have done an honorable thing but made hundreds of millions of dollars selling influence from the state department. the clinton foundation is such an other disaster they can't walk away from it unless she's elected president. if they're so concerned about this, what they should do is partner with the foundation. the gates foundation. >> which meanwhile is under investigation. >> donald trump hasn't made hundreds of millions of dollars in business. >> a lot of questions about the foundation. >> you're still not allowed to use money from your foundation -- >> donald trump didn't take money from foreign government into his own foundation to sell influence at the state department. and he's written a $65 million check to the campaign. how much has hillary written? zero. she's living on taxpayers. >> we'll unpack it all with

david greg lory in a segment later. thank you. >> thank you. much more serious news. we had another school shooting in our country. south carolina at an elementary school. a teenager opened fire hitting two students and a teacher. this happened moments after the suspect made a tearful call leading to a horrifying discovery. cnn's victor blackwell is live in townville, south carolina. what have you learned on the ground? >> well, chris, classes will be canceled here today and tomorrow at townville elementary. you can see it's still cordoned off as a crime scene. 35 miles away from here there is still one boy who is in critical condition. he suffered the most severe of the three gunshot wounds here. shot in the leg, flown to the trauma center and underwent emergency surgery. we also know that his schoolmate that was shot in the foot, a teacher who was shot in the shoulder, they'll be recovering at home today after being treated and released from the hospital. just about the same time that a teacher here at the school was

calling police about the shooter, we're told by investigators the shooter was on the phone with his grandmother crying, trying to say something. she was unable to decipher that. she got into her car and drove to the home that the boy, we're told, share would his father. which was just a few hundred feet away and found her son, 47-year-old jeffrey osborn had been shot to death. now, police say those two scenes, here at the school and that home about three miles away from here are connected but not explicitly said that the boy shot and killed his father. it is a strong inference. they'll be back here to collect information and evidence about the motive potentially of this shooting as this community, a small rural community tries to figure out why this happened. back to you. >> victor, thank you very much. they still have to figure out where this kid got the weapon and nay have to figure out whether that school was safe. was there right security in place. >> a lot of questions. meanwhile, the u.s. plans to send hundreds more troops to iraq to help launch an offensive to retake mosul.

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>> she's telling us how to fight isis. i don't think general douglas mcarthur would like that too much. >> at least i have a plan to fight isis. >> you're telling the enemy everything you want to do. >> no, we are not. >> no wonder you have been fighting isis your entire adult life. oh, politics. donald trump and hillary clinton sparring this week on over how to defeat isis. that is being generous. so we do know this. the effort to retake mosul is intensifying. and by intensifying more u.s. boots on the ground. up to 600 additional troops to help retake the city from isis. is that a good strategy? let's debate with retired lieutenant general michael

flynn. and also have allied commander general wesley clarke, he supports hillary clinton. gentlemen, it is good to have you both. and hopefully we'll be able to, i don't really think there's too much politics at play in this right now. we don't know what trump's plans are right now and clinton is not putting out anything that is really going to change the state of play as we see it right now. let's try to get into what you gentlemen both think will work and we will touch one political topic. last night president obama addressed something that is certainly hot button for you, general flynn, about why he won't say islamic terrorism. here was his answer. >> if you had an organization that was going around killing and blowing people up and said, we're on the vanguard of christianity. i'm not -- as a christian, i'm not going to let them claim my religion and say you're killing for christ. i would say, that's ridiculous. that's not what my religion stand for.

call these folks what they are, which is killers and terrorists. >> you were unsatisfied by that answer. why? >> all you have to do is listen to what this enemy says. they're killing in the name of allah. and i think it does a disservice to not only the men and women in uniform, but i think it does a disservice to the enemy that we're facing not to clearly define what it is they believe in and how they are acting on that belief system. so, i still, i still think that the president has got this wrong and, frankly, we have, we really had a difficult time understanding what it is that we're facing and why it is they feel the way that they feel about us. >> one infliction point. it does a disservice to the enemy that we're fighting. shouldn't you disrespect them as much as possible? >> we should clearly define who it is we are facing. i think they are fighting in the name of allah.

they continue to write about it. they continue to talk about it. they have published articles on it. they have declared war on us. i mean, this is -- it's not a simple issue. it's a very complex issue, but a very important one to clearly define the threat that you're facing. >> so, general clarke, let's jump to the practical implication of this political stance, which is what we're seeing right now. more boots on the ground we're told. >> can i just come back for a second. >> i don't want to dwell on the politics too much. go ahead. >> you can't win a fight like this unless you bring all of our allies together. the people in the united states we're trying to work with. we have so many loyal muslim americans here. we've got friends in the islamic world. they don't agree that islam is about killing people. so when you use that label, you're discrediting our friends and allies and supporters. >> that's not true. >> that's what the president is saying. >> general clarke --

>> that's what i wanted to say, chris. >> i think that if you talk to the leaders in the region, in the middle east, many of them will agree with what i just said. and they look at us and say, you know, what's the matter with you? why can't you decide what it is that you are facing along with us. those are leaders like egypt and king abdullah of jordan and the leaders in kutar and other leaders in the middle east they say they know exactly. >> what to say about it will follow what to do about it. the american people don't want that or at least they didn't. that was the mandate that president obama was given when he came into office. get us out of these things. now it seems as if there is a drip, drip of putting boots back on the ground. you agree with this? >> yeah. i agree with the president's strategy on this because what we're doing is we're putting in the enablers that will help the

people in the region, the iraqi military, in this case, deliver the fight against isis to retake mosul and their own country and push isis out and i think that's a good strategy. you're putting people in who can help target and bring in usair support. you're putting in logistic support. you're putting in trainers. that's what makes sense. >> but they're going to die. men and women are going to die over there if they're exposed to the combat. it's just a matter of time. of course, the most elite fighters in the world. but, you know, this is something we anticipate from a trump administration that there will be more boots on the ground. what do you tell americans about why it's worth their sacrifice? their blood and treasure. >> the incredibly stupid decision to withdraw from iraq in 2011 and i think at that time when we withdrew we went down to like 100 people. today what general clarke just said he agrees to is this drip, drip effect of just adding more troops here. a couple hundred, a few more here. we've gone from about 100 in

january, february of 2011 where we withdrew about 10,000, based on the recommendations of our military. >> trump is open to putting leaders on the ground. >> now we are upwards of about 5,000 and probably more than that. >> do you think there should be more or less? >> i think there needs to be a better strategy. what donald trump has laid out. he has laid out a strategy that consists of four opponents. military, cyber, financial and then the ideological component. he laid that out about four, five weeks ago. i think what we have to do is have a much more wholistic, greater coherent strategy than this drip, drip effect which is exactly what general clarke agreed to. >> it's not a drip, drip effect. it's the only effect that can work in this region. >> could i have -- if i could have a word in here. one thing we learned in iraq as we've learned in afghanistan is

you can't build someone else's country for them. the people in that region have to fight their own battles. we can help them. putting in a bunch of u.s. ground troops and having a lot of casualties and committing ourselves is not something that the u.s. can do successfully. i haven't seen donald trump's strategy or him address any specifics. a big commitment of u.s. ground troops and infantry and armor into iraq. >> i think this is a long-term, sustainable strategy that will bring success. that's what you're looking for. a long-term, sustainable strategy. >> i have to tell you, go back and look at the speech he gave. i will tell you that this strategy is not working right now. you can't have this tridrip, dr effect. >> i understand -- generals, i need to go right now. i appreciate the perspectives from both sides. we'll have this conversation, again, unfortunately, many times.

alisyn. the head of wells fargo heading back to capitol hill over the scandal that has cost thousands of jobs. how will lawmakers hold the ceo accountable? we'll ask the chair of today's congressional hearing that next.

wells fargo ceo is heading back to capitol hill for another beat down. he'll be testifying before a house committee. so what will lawmakers do to hold him accountable? joining us now republican congressman jim hencerling. congressman, i appreciate you joining us this morning. i don't mean to sound cynical, but there is not a lot of reason to believe anything will change. we hear about bad from the bankalibanks all the time and nobody gets punished and what is happening this time? >> the american people are outraged. too often it feels like deja vu all over again. they end up paying some fine that makes a big headline for a regulator, but it's a rounding error in their statement and yet no individual is held

accountable. we intend to get to the bottom of this. what are we in the business of doing in congress? frankly, making laws. our committee has passed something called the financial choice act that would increase fines and penalties on wrong doers for fraudulent and deceptive behavior and, in many cases, we'd increase the fines two and three times, as much. in addition, we would ensure that wells fargo and any large bank would never, ever qualify for a taxpayer bailout. that's one of the things that we think encourages this egregious behavior. the bottom line is million americans just got ripped off by their bank, probably let down by their government and it's the responsibility to congress to get to the bottom of it. >> we do understand some people are calling for an sec investigation. what is your take whether this may be a criminal matter or some type of civil fraud or something investigated with some kind of penalty and litigation? >> i think very well, well, it does need to be investigated. potentially, there have been

violations of the truth of lending act and the truth and savings act, the electronic fund act and possibly sarbanes oxley and laws and violations and, again, just beyond belief that you could have over the course of five years, 5,000 employees dismissed. 2 million fraudulent account and somebody at the food chain and somebody in upper management didn't condone it or turn a blind eye and an individual has to be held. at the end of the day, it's not a bank that committed this fraud, it was some individual, group of individuals and the american people demand justice, fairness and accountability under the rule of law. so, very well there could be security laws violations here that wells has to answer for. >> even the laws that you say you're designing a committee, it's about money. it's about penalties. they have money. you know, i'm sure they don't like giving back $41 million in bonuses, but they have money.

it's jail that what the punishment for crime is supposed to be. the laws are not designed well enough to send people who commit these kind of acts to jail. you hear from prosecutors all the time. these cases are really tough. we're trying to fit them into categories. why don't you design laws that punish this stuff criminally with jailtime? >> well, it's something that our committee will look at. >> why look at it? why not just do it? >> well, one, because i'm not necessarily convinced of the proposition. i want to know, we have laws on the books now. this is criminal activity. fraud is fraud. theft is theft. and, so, there's a question, again, have the regulators let us down? why haven't they pursued this? why haven't they prosecuted it? what is it that they need? i'm not convinced we don't have the laws on the books. it's not a matter of changing the laws on the books, although that might be necessary. quite often it is a matter of figuring out why they weren't enforced in the first place. we have a lot of questions. for example, why were their

examiners embedded and yet it took the "l.a. times" to break the story. why was it almost 18 months later before the cfpb launched their investigation. so, why is it if we're paying all these federal regulators to do this, were they asleep at the wheel. i don't know the answer to the question yet. maybe they deserve a pat on the back, but maybe they deserve a swift kick in the pants, as well, for being asleep at the switch. >> fair point, no question. you're right about one thing. americans are outraged by this and how it continues to come to bear. congressman, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. well, russia says it's ready to discuss a peace deal in syria, but a senior u.s. official says russia is bluffing. what is the chance of any break through to stop the violence? we'll discuss that, next. diabetes can be a daily struggle,

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russian officials are ready to resume talks with the u.s. to renew a cease-fire deal in syria. this as the state department says secretary kerry threatened to end the talks with russia because of attacks on civilian targets, including a hospital. >> the message to the foreign minister today was that we're perfectly willing and able to move forward on those kinds of steps. steps that would end up in the suspension of u.s./russia bilateral agreement in syria unless we see some significant steps taken by russia in the very near future to show that they mean what they say when they say they support a

cessation of hostility and political talks. >> joining us for defense of democracies. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> welcome to the studio. >> thank you. first time. >> i know it is. you heard john kirby there. is it possible, is it realistic for the u.s. to work with russia on this in syria? >> kind of. i think it's realistic for them to have talks and to try to reach an agreement on paper. but, this really reminds me of a kind of cold war era deal where you have great powers coming in and signing an agreement on behalf of their proxies. i don't think that the u.s. has enough control over the rebel forces on the ground to really enter into a deal with russia. i think that we understand that. but that overall the state department still thinks it's worthwhile to have a talk there and to get things rolling. >> you heard john kirby there. he said we need to see significant steps from russia. what are nose? >> well, you know, there's the

bombingaleppo which is barbaric and that's what he's pointing to specifically. when you look at what's happening in aleppo right now. from the russian perspective probably several things they're doing. one thing is something that we saw in the 1980s. they basically left that as a signal to other cities that were uprising. another thing that they're probably doing is engaging in this massive bombing campaign in part to drive rebel groups into the hands of extremists to make the rebels all the more unattractive to the international community. >> so, in other words, the u.s. and russia are working. the u.s. is trying to fight isis. that is not what russia is trying to do. >> i would say the isis part of it is somewhat different part of the conflict. the u.s. is fighting isis, but the u.s.'s position vis-a-vis is

that assad needs to go. kerry has on more than one occasion compared it tahitler. without announcing it has done so. it is not clear to me what the u.s.'s goals are with the assad side of the conflict. that's one of the reasons why there is so much confusion and even within government you have people with mixed views on what the u.s. is trying to accomplish. >> let's talk about what russia is trying to accomplish here in the u.s. let's move on to the u.s. election. there are all sorts of allegation that russia is meddling and hacking into the dnc computers. fbi director james comey talked about this yesterday. >> as you know, we are doing a lot of work through our counterintelligence investigators to understand what mischief is russia up to in connection with our election. that is work that goes on all day, every day, about which i'm limited in terms of answering questions.

>> daveed, what does russia want? >> that's a great question. putin is looking at this through a lens where he has a number of goals. one is, which, he wants taweaken the democratic party. if you look at who the hacks have favored and where they have been hacking and what they have been released to including wikileaks and the like. it has been designed tahurt clinton and help trump. >> he wants donald trump elected president. >> i think so. >> because donald trump has complime complimented putin. >> he thinks trump is less experienced. he believes that trump would be less pro-western. more so than clinton. although both would be controversial. when he looks at russia's position in the world with a

trump presidency and with reduced confidence in government, something which the hacking that's been aimed at voting systems is designed to do. he thinks that russia will be stronger in comparison to the united states. that seems to be the calculation. >> you know, always talk about an october surprise. and what do you think the chances are that russia has something up its sleeve for october? >> overwhelming. absolutely overwhelming. i would certainly put money on that. look, i'm saying this. it's the end of september. i could easily be proven wrong. let's see how i do. when you look at the amount of material they hacked. when you look at the way that past hacks have been framed. when wikileaks rolled out the dnc hacks just before the democratic convention it had a significant impact. demoralizing sanders supporters and creating tension within the convention and, also, it resulted in wasserman schultz stepping down as head of the dnc. a lot of that is the packaging.

what they're trying to do is find the best candidate. so, a lot of people would argue that what was leaked what was not actually improper. but it looked bad. not so much whether there is dirt there, but whether there is something that can seem like dirt. i believe that the chance is actually sky high that there will be an october surprise and in less than a month we'll see if i'm right. >> yes, we will. on that note, thank you for being here. great to talk to you, as always. >> thanks. did you know there is more millennials that voted in the last election than minorities. it is a very important voter base. hillary clinton is going after them and using the man on your screen and the woman on your screen. sanders and obama. will that be enough for clinton? we ask young voters from both sides of the aisle, next. you both have a perfect driving record.

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i want young people to leave school excited about the future. the new businesses they'll open up, getting married, having kids, buying a house. not being saddled with tens of thousands of dollars in student

debt. >> all right. well, hillary clinton's biggest supporters, including bernie sanders, hitting the campaign trail to make a pitch to millennials. will that help hillary clinton? what is donald trump doing to attract those young voters. let's discuss it with kevin burke, the president of the university of pittsburgh college democrats. he supports hillary clinton. and scott meyers is co-president of the university of new hampshire college republicans. he supports donald trump. guys, great to have you here. >> good morning. >> nice to be here. >> kevin, you supported bernie sanders but now you're 100% behind hillary clinton. what do you say to your friends and fellow millennials who are having trouble making that shift? >> i think you should definitely look at hillary clinton's plan on college affordability and student debt. you just played that clip of bernie sanders talking about so many people being saddled with student debt. with hillary clinton's plan, i know that i won't be saddled

with student debt for the rest of my life and she has an actual plan to combat student diebt an make sure college is affordable for the middle class and everybody. >> what is it donald trump would do for millennials? >> i think donald trump -- what donald trump does for millennials is give them a new look into what washington can be. i think donald trump is not the establishment candidate. i think donald trump gives a brand-new look to what millennials want. millennials want something done. things in washington haven't been good. nothing has been getting done. with donald trump and his charis charisma, he can get things done. >> such as -- what do you think is your biggest issue? >> in regards to education or regards to the economy or -- >> you say millennials want something done, what does that mean? what do you want done? >> i want him to be able to get the economy going again, which i think he can. i'm a senior in college.

i plan every single day to get -- to better my future and get ready for the real world. i think when i get into the real world, donald trump is going to give me the best opportunity to find a job in the economy. >> so the economy. kevin, what do you think is millennials' biggest issue. is it college affordability? >> i think definitely it is college affordability. so many people are stuck with 20 or 30 years of student debt right as they graduate from college. i want to start saving for my retirement once i leave college. i wadon't want to be stuck with student debt for so long. it's making sure college is affordable so we all have good opportunities coming out of college and we're not saddled with student debt. >> here's hillary clinton trying to make an appeal to you guys and particularly to people like you, kevin, who had supported bernie sanders. listen to this. >> you know, bernie's campaign energized so many young people.

and there is no group of americans who have more at stake in this election than young americans. because so much of what will happen will affect your lives, your jobs, the kind of country we are, the future we want to build together. >> so, kevin, did that fire up the crowd the way bernie sanders used to? >> it may have. i think that, really, she just wants to make sure everyone knows the importance of vote, not just in the presidential election but in every single ballot. every single race. everything has an importance when it comes to all the races. so i think she just wants to make sure everyone is out there to vote. >> how did you think donald trump did in the debate this week? >> i think in the very beginning of the debate, he did a good job. if you're asking me who won the debate, to be honest, i think america lost and the media won.

the media got what they wanted. two candidates who fought back and forth. neither candidate told us why we should vote for them. all they did is argue why you shouldn't vote for the other candidate. the media got what they wanted and the american people lost but especially in the first half hour, the winning can go to trump. >> i don't like your depiction of the media as blood thirsty. we want real information as w l well. >> i'm sorry. >> yes, i think that you should reframe your talking point on that one. but i do want to ask you about gary johnson because we keep hearing that millennials are drawn to this third party candidate and you guys are looking for something different. i don't know if either of you saw gary johnson was on television yesterday, and he could not name his favorite foreign leader or one that he respected. let me show you this moment very

quickly. >> name a foreign leader that you respect. >> i guess i'm having an aleppo moment in the former president of mexico. >> anybody in the world you like. anybody. pick any leader. >> the former president of mexico. >> which one. >> i'm having a brain -- i'm having a brain -- >> who is your favorite foreign leader? >> merkel. angela merkel. >> okay. can't argue with that. kevin, does this scare millennials that he can't name a foreign leader? >> i think many people are attracted to gary johnson because they're scared of the social policies of the republican party. i think they know lgbt people should have human rights like the rest of us. they go the war on drugs has been a complete failure. that's why they're attracted to someone like him, but i think that moments like this show that gary johnson is not prepared to

be president of the united states. >> all right. kevin burke, scott meyers, thanks. appreciate you letting us take your pulse on where you millennials are today. let's get it over to -- first, we're following a lot of news. let's get right to our next hour. we have six weeks to make every dream you ever dreamed for your country come true. >> it's not just my name on the ballot. every issue you care about. >> you see all the days off that hillary takes? day off. day off. day off. >> we need an adult in the white house. >> bernie sanders could have gone down in the record books. now he's supporting her. >> it's imperative that we elect hillary clinton. >> saturday night live's new plan to take on trump. >> this is "new day" with chris

cuomo. >> the race for the white house appears to be getting uglier. his surrogates now being told to use former president bill clinton's infidelities against hillary clinton. >> what is clinton going to do? she brought out some big name democrats to try and got after millennial voters. they're just 40 days left to the election. how are they going to spend this time to get your vote. just ten days until the next presidential debate. we have it all covered for you. let's begin with cnn's phil mattingly in iowa. council bluffs. great place. >> reporter: early voting starts here today. that's a big deal, particularly for donald trump. coming off what even advisers behind closed doors acknowledge was a weak debate performance. those same advisers say they have a clear winning message, the types of attacks that will certainly resonate with their voters. now if they can just get their candidate to make them. >> i don't