instance. >> don't know if i would have reached out. >> thank you so much. >> thank you for staying with us this morning. that's it for us this hour. we'll see you back here at 10:00 a.m. >> don't go anywhere, smerconish is with you right now. ♪ ♪ i'm michael smerconish, happy october from philly. 38 days until it's over. here is where things stand. she got the bump. hillary clinton pulls ahead nationally and in swing states florida, michigan and new hampshire, but her margin of victory is still smaller than that of the libertarian vote. speaking of which, without being on the debate stage, the libertarian party picks up endorsements from major newspapers in chicago and detroit. i'll talk to vp nominee bill weld. clinton is also getting surprising endorsements from newspapers that have backed gop

candidates for decades and decades, leading many trump fans to protest to cancel their subscriptions. there was even a death threat. plus, trump's problems with women continue as he taunts a former miss universe about her weight and brings up bill clinton's affairs. i'm going to talk to a reporter he once called the c word. and circle december 19 on your calendar. that's the real election day when the electoral college votes. i'll explain. first, here is where things stand in the politics where bush 41 called the big mo, momentum. things can turn on a dime. trump had the big mo going into the debate on advice from his new management team trump had been exhibiting discipline. he stayed on message. he avoided uncrypted remarks and long interviews and clinton's

e-mail controversy continued to simmer as her health fell. just in time for their first face-to-face confrontation. all clinton had to do was push a few of his buttons. he lost several opportunities to accentuate her negatives including the e-mail issue. can he do anything to regain the big mo? or was the debate loss a tipping point? well, perhaps. reagan had a poor first debate in 1984, so too obama in 2012. so donald trump can turn it around. we won't know for sure until they face one another again on october 9. unfortunately for trump many are already voting. so everyday matters. to state the obvious, the man needs to practice. staffers could not get his attention when seeking to stage mock debates. meanwhile, clinton bragged about her preparedness, but no amount of prep is going to save trump if he doesn't first understand his audience.

primary season is over, mr. trump. referring to bill clinton's infidelities or engaging in a 3:00 a.m. twitter campaign about the weight of a former miss universe, that might please your base but won't win you anymore new friends. donald trump has 38 days until election day to try to grow the tent. there was absolutely nothing he offered in the first debate to move that needle. in fact, he moved it in the other direction. unless trump realizes that that which brought him thus far now impedes his growth, the race will be over. now, largely because of donald trump, everything about this election has been unusual, as in never before in our life time unusual. and that's definitely the case with newspaper editorials endorsi endorsing candidates. now it's not news if "the new york times" or say "the washington post" endorses hillary clinton, but many newspapers around the country are breaking ranks after a century of supporting republicans. and readers have been expressing anger in subscription

cancellations and even a death threat. several long-time conservative gop friendly papers have recommended hillary clinton. some of them didn't even endorse fdr in the midst of the world war ii. six cities papers have endorsed the libertarians, chicago tribune, detroit news, manchester news leader. usa today never endorsed a candidate in its 30 plus years took the unprecedented stance of advising to vote for anyone but trump calling him, quote, by unanimous consensus of the editorial board unfit for the presidency. but with trust in the media at an all-time low, might the opposition of the news media and its editorial pages actually play to donald trump's benefit? joining me now, editor mike wilson of the dallas morning news which endorsed hillary clinton for president, they broke a 75-year no democrat streak phil boaz is of the

arizona republic, leading to many cancellations and a death threat and nolan finally, the detroit news editorial, first time in 143 years didn't endorse a republican instead chose the libertarians. mr. boaz, why did your newspaper do what it did and what was the reaction? >> well, we did what we did because this is such an unusual election. i don't think it's an accident that we're breaking with our history in a year, a presidential election year that none of us have ever seen in our life time. a candidate who is so reckless and so obnoxious and so frightening, frankly, a threat to the republic, we think. and so we thought it was important to really make a stand against him and to endorse the only person who can defeat him and that is hillary clinton. >> and with what kind of a

reaction from your subscribers? >> we got a torrent of reaction. we got a lot of angry callers, but we have gotten a surprising amount of support not just in arizona but from around the country. it's been pouring in. in fact, one of the big surprises of this is to have people from all around the country taking up subscriptions to the arizona republic to counter some of the strutrump pe who are canceling their's. >> are you willing to quantify for us? how many did you lose in arizona? >> we're not talking about those. we understood going into this that we were going to lose subscribers and we had a pretty good sense of how many we would lose and it really wasn't a consideration. we thought that there were issues and values far more important, considerations that were larger. >> mr. wilson, in dallas i saw from your twitter feed that you actually went out and had a

conversation with some of those who showed up to protest. tell us about that. >> sure. a week or so after our editorial appeared some donald trump supporters demonstrated outside the dallas morning news offices. and they held signs and they said boycott the dallas morning news and pro-trump signs. look, the street is right outside my window. i'm looking down and there's people there who have a problem with something that we did. and i'm the editor, so i walked out to talk to them and introduced myself and listened to what they had to say. at first there was a little bit of shouting, sort of they kind of wanted to press their point extremely hard. listen, i'm here to talk to you. give me a chance to talk back to you. ultimately what i said was, we're into people -- we want people to participate in democracy. our recommendation is just that, a recommendation. we recommended the person we think is best qualified to serve as president. we understand other people will have a different view and the

most important thing to us is that people get informed and make a vote on election day. we left the conversation, i thought, on pretty good terms and i was glad i had done it. >> i scrutinized all of you are editorials. each of you noted the vehemence of the attacks against her. will you speak to that issue? >> well, sure. our editorial speaks for itself. go to google dallas morning news where we recommend hillary clinton and they can see what the editorial board said exactly. but one of the things the editorial board noted is that there's an intensity of opposition to hillary clinton, some of which is based on stuff that hasn't been confirmed by anybody that we cannot journalistly report as fact. so we're trying to separate out the person's actual qualifications from what they've -- from what they're accused of. the other day you had howard

dean saying something about donald trump was using cocaine during the dae bait. we're not interested in nonsense. we looked at people's records on the thing that is a said and did and based our recommendation on that. >> i thought the dean comment, dean tweet was apolling by the way. mr. finally, to detroit we now turn. so after 143 years you decided we're not going for the republican, we're going libertarian. why did you do that? >> well, we handled this process the same way we always do. we looked at the candidates and picked the one who best reflected our values as a newspaper. and one of our -- we got a lot of push back, why didn't you endorse clinton like some of the other conservative papers did. truth is a core value of our newspaper. and we weren't comfortable putting our name behind someone who has shown so little disregard or so little regard for the truth. and so, we looked at this hard. a year ago you told me you're going to be

libertarian for president i would say you're nuts. this is an extraordinary election year. neither of these candidates met our qualification. >> mr. finley, you called this an endorsement of conscientious and in the detroit news you addressed head on the criticism of those who say, well, if you vote for a third party candidate, you're wasting your vote. speak to that issue, please. >> i don't think a voter should be expected to hold their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils. if you look at the polling, 55, 60% of voters say they're voting against a candidate rather than for a candidate. and over half say they wish there was another choice. we felt there was a viable third choice and recommended that candidate. >> gentlemen, gallop says that i think the number is only a third on average have high regard for the news media. i want to show you a donald trump tweet that applies to all of you where he said essentially the people get it.

the people get it is what he said. quickly i want to hear from each of you and i'll begin in arizona. has it occurred to you that you might be helping donald trump by voicing your opposition to him because he continues to beat up the media. mr. boaz, quickly speak to that. >> i don't believe it. i think when you have a newspaper that hasn't endorsed a democrat in 126 years, that raises eyebrows. we have seen international attention to this because it is so extraordinary. we have been backing republicans for ever. i'm an editorial page editor who is a life-long republican. what i have seen from this candidate, this republican, is so disturbing, the authoritarian strains and the way he behaves, i think he is a danger to the nation and i think republicans need to stand up and call him out. >> mr. wilson, are you helping donald trump in dallas? >> there's this idea out there that we should have thought

about the consequences before we did -- before we made an editorial endorsement. what will donald trump think? what will our readers think? you make an editorial recommendation on principle and you make it according to how you see the candidates lining up with your newspaper's long-held values. so there's a lot of principled people. i'm surprised saying to me, why didn't you bend your principle in order to meet some business imperative. i don't understand why they asked that because a principle is a principle and you do it because you think it's right. >> mr. finley, a twist on your question, are you helping hillary because you now benefitted the libertarians or pulling votes away that she desperately needs? >> yo. i don't think there will be a whole lot of clinton voters voting libertarian. our appeal was to those republicans, those conservatives like ourselves who look at the republican candidate and say, i can't vote for him. and aren't comfortable voting for hillary clinton. i think if our endorsement hurts anyone, it takes votes away from

donald trump. >> i'm very appreciative of phil boaz, mike wilson and nolan finley. thank you, gentlemen, for being here. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> what do you think? tweet me @smerconish. coming up as you just heard, the detroit news endorsed libertarian ticket. the libertarian percentage of the vote right now could be the difference on election day. bill weld is not invited to the vice presidential debate tuesday. but he was invited here this morning. says he's been pressured to drop out of the race and suspects that comes from the clinton camp. i'll ask him about that. and here is an early tweet -- a ha, sean spicer, what does he say, smerconish, you are such an advocate of third parties. when is the last time you had dr. jill stine on? the greens can't match the executive experience of the libertarians. and, yes, i do give platform to the libertarians. i'm glad you are watching me.

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the libertarians may have been denied a spot on the debate stage thus far, but they've gotten endorsements from several major newspapers, t"the chicago tribune" and detroit news among the latest. some criticized them for playing the role of spoilers. michelle obama made a pointed attack for anyone who doesn't vote for any one of the two major party candidates. take a listen. >> because here is the truth, either hillary clinton or her opponent will be elected president this year. and if you vote for someone other than hillary or if you don't vote at all, then you are helping to elect her opponent. and let me just say this, the stakes are far too high to take that chance. >> libertarian vice presidential candidate governor bill weld says rumors have been planted by he suspects the clinton campaign that he might drop out of the race and endorse clinton. i wanted him here to discuss

that. governor, good to see you. first of all, respond to what you just heard from the first lady. >> well, you know, with deepest deference to the first lady for whom i have absolutely the highest regard, michael, i think both parties in washington are trying to brainwash the american public into thinking it's written in stone somewhere that everybody has to vote r or d. both parties are whining that a vote for anybody but them will elect their opponent. we know how much they hate each other, you can see why they're doing it, but that doesn't make it true. >> address the rumor mill that says bill weld is the one that ultimately will be leaned on to get out of the race. are you in this thing until the end come hell or high water? >> yeah. no. it's just a nonstarter. it started a speculation by my friend carl bernstein and he is my friend and went into rumor and now i'm being inundated with calls and letters saying you're going to personally plunge the united states into ruin unless you abdoe date your candidacy

right now. that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. why would i jump off the platform i love. i'm having the time of my life with gary johnson and it's just wishful thinking on the part of well wishers from washington. >> i guess where it comes from -- you know, intuitively if you said to me at the outset, would johnson/weld, two republicans who governed two terms each democratic states from whom will they pull, i thought they would pull from the republicans. when you look at the polling day ta, four-way race, hillary is up by three f they remove you and the green party candidate, all of a sudden her margin declines to two, hence the conversation that people are saying, hey, these libertarians are cutting into the democratic base. >> yeah, but that's not good analysis because you know every single one of jill stine's 4% is coming right out of hillary clinton. we're like neutral at worse for her and give me six or seven more weeks to chew on mr. trump's leg and my goal is to

get him into third place by the time of the third debate. i'm not kidding. i think we can do it. he is not a republican. he's a liberal new york city democrat. sort of admitted it at the beginning of the campaign and then said, no, wait a minute, i'm not pro choice. i'm anti-abortion. he just -- he doesn't think anything about doing a 180. he is running 180 degrees against everything the party elders of the republican party decided we republicans should do after the 2012 election. we got to emphasize free trade. we have to have much more outreach to latinos. we have to do a lot more for women. we have to embrace all communities of color and all ethnic communities. does that sound like donald trump? he is not a republican. and i can't imagine why any self-respecting republican would vote for him. >> i notice and i've noted this in the past that your criticism is far more directed at him than it is at her. as a matter of fact, you said this week that she is the most qualified candidate running for

mt. it sounds like some kind of a tas id endorsement of hillary. >> that's where the rumor comes from that i'm about to drop out. i made no sec rit the fact that i think more highly of hillary clinton than i do of mr. trump's. mr. trump's background in business is terrible. he has a terrible reputation in the business community in new york and his behavior during the campaign suggests to me, at least, i'm not a psychiatrist, but this guy does not look stable. somebody who gets up at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and starts tweeting i hate this woman, i hate that woman, i have a grudge, i have a grievance. it's 3:00 a.m., it's not light yet and i'm venting and i'm talking about my grievances and my grudges. that is not a stable person. that's not a happy camper. >> governor johnson had another brain freeze this week. why is it not a disqualifier when he was asked and couldn't identify a world leader whom he admires? >> well, you know, a world leader who you admire, that's

actually -- that's kind after a tough one. i did think of angela merkel but i took the next 24 hours to think of another one. she and berma in myanmar is another leader whom i admire. i'm sort of very much taken with kpi jing ping in china. i think he is very interesting fellow. and after that, the list of foreign leaders who we really think are doing a great job and they're aligning with the united states and helping us, it's not a long list. any way, the pop quiz approach to politics is not what a president lives with day in and day out. people don't say, can you identify this town? >> governor, i noted that some immediately tried to seize the moment and say, well, what are they doing in the race? they ought to get out of the race, but it didn't dissuade

"the chicago tribune" or the detroit news from doing something absolutely unprecedented chd is to endorse a libertarian ticket. >> a lot of people would like to have us out of this race because they understand that a ticket consisting of two, two-term republican governs who governed in democrat states and successfully and were re-elected by wide margins, that's a dangerous ticket because that ticket has a lot of experience doing the things that have to be done in washington. you know, it's too bad that we're not in these debate. i actually would have a good time on tuesday with govern pence and former govern tim kaine. there's a real brotherhood and sister hood of former governors. it's probably going to be a better debate than the presidential debate because those guys both know something about governing. and the libertarian ticket, you have two, two-term governors. so i think people are probably

right to try to hit us off at the pass before we get in there. if we get to 20, 25% in the month of october, which i think we may very well do, we'll be dangerous going into the final election. at that point people will be looking at our ticket. >> final two cents from me, sean spicer interestingly tweeted ame during the course of this program because he wonders why i give you this platform. i think that any objective observer looks at resumes would have to say there's more executive leadership experience on your ticket than any of the tickets. two former two-term governors. and that's why i afford you this opportunity. thank you, governor. i appreciate you being here. >> you're a great one, smerconish. thank you. bye bye. >> thank you. still to come, there's an enormous gender divide in this election. trump trails with women. he trashed a former miss universe and telling his staff how to discuss how hillary treated bill's mistressed.

now your about to meet a reporter he once called the c word. here is another tweet come in during the course of this program -- i can see this is going to be another trump commercial this morning. hide di, are you joking? thank you for watching. mornin'.

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♪ it's been a rocky week for donald trump's relationship with female voters. hillary clinton berated him at the debate for calling women pigs and belittling a miss universe winner for gaining weight. trump doubled down, going to war on twitter against the contestant, elialicia machado, accusing her of making a sex tape. now a female reporter told a shocking story about her dealing

with mr. trump. jennifer lin was with the fefl inquirer for 31 years. back in '88 she was the financial reporter when he wrote about trump's activities in atlantic city. wait until you hear what happened next. this is jennifer lynn. jennifer, you wrote something that he didn't like, then what happened? >> michael, i was working in the wall street office of the philadelphia inquirer and i got a phone call. the woman said hold for mr. trump and then mr. trump began to yell at me. he told me i had shit for brains. he told me i worked for a shitty newspaper and said what sort of shit was i writing. i was stunned. he hung up. he call mid boss in philadelphia and treat mid boss to the same sort of rant. but then he added that he referred to me as the c word, a word i will not use, michael, because in my opinion it's the worst word in the english language to refer to a woman.

he complained to my boss. he called me the c word and my boss said if there was any problem with the story we would run a correction. what was wrong with the story, mr. trump? and mr. trump said he had not read the story only read the headline. so my boss said to call him back if there were any problems and he never called back. >> why now? why are you telling this story today in the context of the presidential race? >> because of the debate, michael. the day after the debate i went out to dinner with my friends from where i live in suburban philadelphia. we call ourselves the doyle's town dance moms and we were horrified by the things trump has said about women. rosie o'donnell is a slob. miss universe is miss piggy and i told my girlfriends in philadelphia, hey, remember when he called me the c word. remember when he told me i had shit for brains. so that day i also went on facebook and posted a similar sort of saying on facebook and one of my friends on facebook

who runs a website called billy penn called me and said would you mind writing about what happened and explain your story. so that's why i wrote about it. >> have you been telling the story for three decades? >> michael, when donald trump tells you you have shit for brains, that's not something you forget. and i had been telling this story for 28 years. i've been telling it to my friends and family. i've been telling it to my sisters. i've been telling it to my daughter and her friends and my nieces. i've been telling it a lot. yes, i have not forgotten that donald trump told me i had shit for brains and that he called me a c word and i have been repeating this story for 28 years. so i'm offended when the trump campaign tells me -- >> here's what the trump -- i was just going to say the trump campaign and i know this because it was appended to your own blog and you publicized it. david urban, who was a senior adviser, haven't spoken to him about this issue. here is the statement. the accusation is categorically

false. i find it incredibly coincidentally that this person's crystal recollection one person, one word spoken nearly 30 years ago happens to coincide with mr. trump's surge in pennsylvania. there is nothing more -- this is nothing more than an avowed liberal reporter trying to exploit mr. trump's reputation as click bait for her tabloid stories. you can have the final word to that. >> thank you, michael. i have been telling this story for 28 years. my former editor can support my version of the story and he will also support the fact that mr. trump called me a c word. and as for being a tabloid journalist, michael, i left the newspaper business two years ago to write a book about christianity in china. i am not a tabloid reporter. and this is not click bait. i'm offended by the way the donald trump treated me 20 years ago. he bullied me. and i'm offended now at the fact that the trump campaign is

trying to discredit me. this is a true story. it happened to me. there are plenty of people who could support this and corroborate my story. thank you for giving me the last word there. >> the booker for my program is corina lamb. she spoke to your editor craig stock yesterday and he confirmed your account and said that he remembers it exactly the way that you told it. jennifer lynn, thank you for being here. >> thank you, michael. >> so how will any of this impact the election, if at all? what does it have to do with running the country? joining me now two women with strong opinions about this, civil rights torn areva martin and carol swan. professor swain, you get the first word. respond to what you just heard. i find that to be quite a story. >> i think that what we have seen in the debate and what we see now is an effort by the clinton team to change the topic instead of talking about what

happened 30 years ago when we were a different nation, when there were different standards, when people were not hypersensitive and politically correct, we should be talking about the corruption that's associated with the clintons, the issues that our nation faces and all of this is just to take people's minds off what is truly important. we should also be talking about bill clinton and his record as a superpredator when it comes to women. >> i might -- i might agree with you but for the fact that trump himself seems to put these issues in play. you know, waking up at 3:00 a.m. in the morning and tweeting a former miss universe and challenging her still about her weight. i mean, if he wanted -- >> you don't know -- >> to move on and talk to the issues this wouldn't be his behavior. >> you don't know if he woke up at 3:00 a.m. or if he never went to bed. it's my understanding that he doesn't need a lot of sleep. but, yeah, it was poor judgment in my mind. i would like to see him focus on

our nation, focus on the corruption that surrounds the clinton and not fall prey to the traps that they set. i think it's very troubling that the democrats are known to trot out women like they did with herman cain when ever there's a republican surging some woman emerges from the background with a tale of woe of something that happened years ago. i think we need to get to the real issues facing the nation that -- we're wasting our time on this. this is not important. >> areva, i use all the words but two. the n word and the c word. all the others hang out with me unfortunately you're going to hear them. so it rings credible to me when a woman says he called me the c word and that's something i can never forget. >> yeah, michael. i just spent some time with jennifer in the green room in los angeles. she is extremely credible. and let me just say, what carol

swain has said is so indicative of what the trump advocates or surrogates do, they contradict themselves in their own statement. on one hand she says it's not important that we're talking about issues that impact 51% of the population but on the other hand brings up bill clinton and his alleged predator conduct. >> criminal behavior is not the claim. he's a criminal. criminal behavior is not the same. >> carol, let someone else talk, please. the reality is women do matter and we matter a great deal in this election. we, in fact, will decide this election. the trump campaign knows that suburban white women are the targeted demographic that he needs in order to even have any chance at winning the white house. and he is failing miserably with that demographic because of this constant attack and insults against women. and he is the one that has made this a five-day story, not hillary clinton. she brought it up in a debate one time. he went on television the very

next day continuing this assault on this former miss universe contestant and has continued to talk about women in the most dispairaging ways possible and we are listening and the numbers show we are responding and we are going to reject a president that does not value and respect women in this country. >> professor swain, may i ask you a followup. i don't understand something. i'm a political junky. your a law professor at vanderbilt. fabulous school. have a daughter who went there. love the place. i just don't get this, to the extent that there are 8 to 10% of the american people who are out there and undecided, who among them is going to hear trump talk about bill's infidelities and decide, a ha, i'm going for donald trump. how can that issue move the needle? and with whom? it just seems like it's political malpractice. >> he shouldn't be talking about that. he should be talking about benghazi, the e-mail scandal,

the clinton foundation and all of the corruption, the fact that in america the rule of law no longer matters. he should be talking about things we care about immigration, national security, jobs and the supreme court. and so, you know, if mr. trump is out there watching me, then i hope he can get back on message. and he has not trashed women. in fact, hillary clinton and her operatives have trashed women and they have made this a five-day story. as far as the miss universe and his advising her to lose weight, she was his employee. he could have fired her, he didn't. it seems to me that he was giving her good advice. that she needed to lose weight. her job depended on -- >> you better hope he doesn't take carol's advice because she is exactly correct and that was the whole point of my opening commentary. he had been on message, but gets so easily diverted. go ahead, areva. >> michael, it's just amazing to

me this alternative universe that trump and his surrogates live in. carol swain just said that trump does not trash women. we have decades and decades of evidence, radio interviews with howard stern, video tape displaying comments that donald trump has made and he doesn't try to walk them back. his surrogates attempt to say that he doesn't make the statements. he proudly supports the statements. he said during the debate that he made those statements against rosie o'donnell and in fact he would make them again and that we all agreed with him. so there is no debating in this entire election that donald trump has a disdain for women. he has shown it over and over again. american women are smarter than what carol swain gives us credit for being. >> i am neutral. >> we are listening to these comments and listening. >> go ahead, professor. >> her numbers are surging. >> i think the american people

care about the allegations of rape and the fact that hillary clinton laughed about getting a rapist off of a 12--year-old girl and there's a video out there and people that care about america need to vote for donald trump. he is the better candidate. we need to save america. we need to save it from the democrats. >> areva and carol, to be continued. thank you, ladies. i appreciate it. still to come, why december 19 is a more important date to pick the president than election day itself. the mysteries of the electoral college. here is another tweet. let's check this out -- [ laughter ]. yes, it is, mr. housekeeping. yes, it is.

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at the end of the last segment, profess sor swain said there was a rape video that hillary clinton laughed at.

cnn has no evidence of that video. you have november 8 circled on your calendar, you may want to highlight december 19. that's the day when members of the electoral college will select the president. you might be surprised to learn that the electors are not necessarily bound to follow the result of the popular vote. the two results have never been at odds, but of course this election is like none that we've seen before. jack is a historian, professor at stanford university and recipient of the pew lit zer prize. i am the dummy in chief. why is the electoral college not necessarily bound to the will of the electorate? >> first off, good morning, michael. there have been a number of occasions in the past where individual electors have thrown away their vote.

james monroe was elected. the most recent example, i think, came in 2000 when washington d.c. elector threw away her vote in a protest for giving state hood to the district of columbia. there are been odd instances in the past where individual electors have exercised their right. no one cared about it because there was ever any consequence to it. if there were to be real consequences to it, some kind of crisis arose where some group of electors felt like they had to act independently and exercise what was their constitutional authority under article 2 of the constitution, then we would be in a truly interesting situation. i think it's very difficult to predict what would happen at that point. >> alexander ham iton was was to

ensure the requisite quali qualificatio qualifications. you know some would say that is this election. >> i started writing op-ed on that passage. that comes from federal 68. hamilton begins that with a moral certainty. that is strong language you use that the electoral college would use. hamilton was right. this is the first election that will call hamilton's proposition which breeds confidence into the clause into question. michael, there is an important point here. hamilton who wrote that in 1788 was speaking with a lot of confidence than the situation merited. the reason i say that, of all the institutions the framers created, the presidency was the no novel one of all.

none of them really knew or anticipated how the electoral college would work. that was a great leap in the dark. there was no president available in 18th century history for how you create a national republican executive. in fact, the early history of the electoral college from 1796 to the 20s, shows a lot of manipulation of the rules at state level. most switch rules for reasons of partisan advantage. so hamilton -- >> do you believe -- >> it's a bold statement. it did not have much evidence for it. >> final question. do you think there is a prospect on december 19th, a significant number of electors do differently? >> absolutely not.

there was a piece in "the wall street journal." number one, the democratic electors will not abandon hillary clinton. there are a few voting conscious. the most interesting thing is what happens if trump wins and they decide do we really want him in the white house or not? but you can imagine that happening. at that point you don't get a majority, the election goes into the house. you know, the chances of this happening -- i'll swear on a stack of bibles in the slim to nil range. >> professor rakove, thank you for your time and expertise. still to come, some of your best and worst tweets. i think we are putting one up on the screen as we go to break. stop giving trump advice on how

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