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bracing right now for hurricane matthew, a storm the national hurricane center calls extremely dangerous. this is "cnn tonight" i'm don lemon, forecasters say matthew may just be hours away from the coast. category four, hurricane center warning you have to take it seriously to stay alive. forcing largest mandatory evacuation since hurricane sandy, more th sandy. stretch across the coast. michael holmes, florida's governor issued dire warn eggs to get out. what is latest? >> reporter: said this storm could kill, evacuate. we've been talking the last couple of hours when we began, the winds were less than they
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are now. just to step aside to give you idea, vans coming through, been worse than this, comes and goes, strong at times, ripping through here gusting maybe 75 miles an hour. in a couple of hours, maybe three could be as much as 110 miles an hour. people been warning about the storm for days now, warnings getting more and more dire and heard from the national weather service in melbourne and just read it to you. language is dire. locations may be uninhabitable for weeks or even months. widespread extensive wind impacts, national weather service don't mess around or exaggerate, that gives you pause. talking about winds and rain at moment. storm surge is something we also
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need to talk about, it's just high tide right now. midnight on the east coast. high tide combined with a storm surge of perhaps as much as 12 feet is going tock devastating for coastal areas and you have barrier islands where people live. evacuation orders very strict for those people, getting them off the islands. you saw hurricane sandy and that was tropical storm by the time it got to shore. this is a full-blown hurricane. seen power going out all around us, transformers blowing and this is just the beginning. >> earlier sarah sooider in was in ditone that and had waves coming through every 30 minutes. how often are you seeing the waves come through now? >> far less than that, every
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five minutes almost blown off our feet here. we're a lot closer of course to the eye. we're the projected point where the eye is going to be closest to the coast first. that's why everybody is worried about the damage around here and general melbourne area. we've been getting big gusts of wind every five minutes or so and rain started to get a lot heavier and just sweeps through and comes up and hits you in the face. getting a lot more. this is midnight, 75 mile winds and could be 115 in maybe three hours from now. imagine what that's going to be like? >> we'll be live to report it. stay safe achlt we'll get back to you. sarah you were on the board walk all day, seeing conditions worsen. what is the latest now? >> another band is coming.
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little bit of rain gives a hint of heavy rain coming hibd it and winds. we've been telling everyone you must evacuate get to safe place, don't be on the coast. this is our job. no my mother is not happy about it but it's our job, trying to make it so we're safer as well. in alcove near the hotel where we're staying. i've asked them about the windows. most of this hotel has windows pointed toward the ocean because everybody wants ocean view normally when they come to daytona beach. can withstand about 150 mile per hour winds. some of the hotels, renovated or newer, have the kinds of windows far stronger than your average, that's one thing they've been telling folks because florida power and light, folks coming in here will be staying in this hotel as well as this comes
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through. hoping to be here immediate lf afterwards to make sure that the power lines get put back together as soon as possible. some power lines are already down, expecting around 2 million people may be without power but a little bit of good news. storm has wobbled a bit. watching as it's come in, wobbled and gone a little further out into the ocean. may not hit as hard here as they thought it would. eye certainly at this point doesn't seem to be coming onto shore. good news but still very, very heavy wind and rain and potential flooding and there's debris blowing around. we've kept ourselves in space where we can go back and get out of the rain and wind and authorities are advising everyone to get off the streets. now a curfew in effect here so people are off the streets. this is the time from now until
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early morning when the storm is supposed to really pick up. >> good advice, sarah we appreciate that. get back to you. turn now to reed timer, acuweather extreme meteorologist. >> i'm in coco beach, northeast of center of hurricane matthew. winds gusting periodically as spiral bands coming in and bunch of power flashes, observed four or five, hoping to capture a few for you. become more frequent as winds ramp up. in between bands, can see in the distance, just had transformer pop above me. but worst off to the southwest, early morning hours winds will amp up, especially if the inner
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eye wall comes in. trying to contract the bigger eye wall and inner eye wall, small compact wall constricts and weakens and outer replaces it. timing of that will dictate how strong the winds get here. could be over hurricane force and if inner eye wall wobbles in, that's when winds ramp up and could get storm surge of ten to 12 feet just north of the eye. >> talk more about conditions. emergency personnel will stay out as long as possible until conditions are so poor they can't. what are road conditions looking like right now sh. >> not too bad but don't let it fool you. storm surge will come if fast like a flash flood if you're in the path.
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if stays offshore may not be bad but could have no warning, inundated. don't want to deal with ten foot wall of water. deadly scenario. roads appear passable but don't want to be out there. could be downed trees, power lines and hurricane is well off the shore, still hours away for %-p rapidly. >> how does this compare to other storms you've chased? >> i did katrina and rita, lost car due to storm surge in katrina, long story. much worse than this so far. just saw a power flash off to the south. nothing like katrina but serious hurricane. could have deadly conditions.
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more compact similar to charlie but that came barrelling into florida, direct landfall and devastating wind gusts. i don't think will be that bad. if stays offshore may dodge a bullet here. >> reed timer, storm chaser, stay safe. senior meteorologist derek van dam in the weather center is this storm tracking the coast? when will it make landfall? >> latest track from the national hurricane center keeps the exact path of this powerful, powerful hurricane roughly 20 miles just offshore and that will keep the most devastating parts offshore as well. not to say won't feel major impacts from this but show you
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why miles matter. latest radar, clearly see the eye wall and trajectory of the storm, continuing to move northwesterly, about twelve miles per hour, see the outer rain bands, eye wall located in the circle i just drew. but think about this, think that hurricane of this magnitude, strong cat three to cat four tend to wobble. analogy would be spin a quarter or a top and once it starts to slow down wobbles side to side. that's exactly what we saw hurricane matthew do when it passed freeport in the bahamas, look at trajectory approaching the region. we saw that northwesterly movement. this is really crucial because if we see this happen along the east coast of florida see
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devastating effects. last moment switch in the eye wall westward, 15 to 20 mile difference means everything in terms of potential destruction we'll see. there's trajectory, northwesterly and look at wobble in the eye as it moves westward by ten or 20 miles. going to play a major factor in how severe the winds back along the east coast. not to diminish the potential effects of the storm, national weather service is using strong language talking about some locations along the coast could be uninhabitable for days if not weeks to come. let's break it down hour by hour from the team of people cnn has working behind the scenes so you can get perspective and idea of where the conditions will go. live shots all along the coast
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of florida, melbourne, just to the south of the space coast there, winds will really start to ramp up over the coming hours. will we see that wobble take place? the worst in terms of winds? strong onshore component? time will tell. this is latest from the national hurricane center and you can see the projected path. line in the middle is the path right offshore. couple of important things here. weakening wind conditions, expect a category three by the time it reaches cape canaveral coast but if that wobble takes place have a completely different region. >> appreciate it dan, coming up more on breaking news tonight, millions of people bracing for hurricane matthew, a storm that's being called a monster.
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breaking new tonight. millions of people in florida bracing for massive hurricane matthew. joining me is eric gill,
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director in port st. lucie, florida. >> in st. lucie county, the storm has shifted a little bit off of our coast, about 20 miles further than it was supposed to be. which is a good sign for us and our residents in st. lucie county. instead of looking at maximum of 130 miles an hour, now 90 mile an hour range. brunt of the storm coming toward us but not expected to have impact of earlier today. >> still not out of the woods, i imagine nothing changes for evacuates or preparation? >> correct, starting yesterday looked like direct hit of category three or four storm and issued mandatory evacuations for
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coastline and low lying areas and mobile homes. we have roughly a thousand people in our public shelters and lot of folks have left the area to go to west coast. >> even though it's tracking a little bit further off the coast could be still major storm surge. >> that's one of our biggest concerns, see five to eight foot storm surge in some areas, florida is wet state and we're coastal county. there's a lot of water and concerns for flooding and storm surge. erick gill thanks very much. joining me now is mayor of d dayto daytona. >> we're just bracing, winds picking up to 30 miles an hour
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and of course it's raining and great number of our residents have taken heed of our warning, we're concerned about those that have not. >> mayor henry, daytona beach has gone years without a direct hit. you say a lot of people have taken heed of the warning but are all the folks taking this seriously? you've gone so long with a direct hit. >> absolutely not. i was knocking on doors myself speaking to residents on the beach side area and several told me were waiting because they wanted to enjoy the surf but many have chosen to vacate. when you go for the length of time we have gone without a direct hit you can become complacent and that's why wife been vigilant and animated in our discussion and dialogue with residents trying to convince them of the gravity of the
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situation. >> what do you say to folks? it's tough. lot of people don't want to leave homes and possessions, mayor. >> first thing we try to communicate to them is life is more precious than the valuables, we understand you worked hard for them but you are our greatest resource, human potential, human capital, you're the best. what is most important to us. and that's what you have to try to communicate as a leader and community. and then you also have to try to communicate that for the most part their valuables will be as safe as possible. can't protect them by staying with them. if something is going to happen to your valuables, your presence is not going to enhance their safety. >> are you getting reports back from the shelters? >> yeah. our shelters are all full to capacity on the eastern portion
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of our community and they're running very smoothly. we're so thankful for all of the volunteers and everyone chipping in to make them successful. daytona beach mayor derrick henry thanks for joining us. mayor of st. augusta- st. augustine entire city evacuated. what are you expectng in mayor are you there? >> i am. missed your question. >> what are you expecting in st. augustine? >> something not good. it's good to know we have a shift of hurricane matthew but the real threat for us is storm surge. our city has been evacuated. however we believe that close to
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half the folks have not chosen to do that. and put a curfew in place last night beginning at 8:00, water service is no longer operating. we expect severe power outages for some period of time and at this point what we're doing is really waiting to see what tomorrow brings or actually what today brings. we're expecting obviously the winds to pick up early in the morning and become very, very dangerous as the day goes by. but it's the storm surge that concerns us and number of people who are still in our city and inability of our first responders or emergency personnel to get to them. but we're 450 years old and expect to -- actually 451 this year, we expect to be 452.
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>> is it too late now, is advice to hunker down if you haven't left already? >> i'm here at emergency operations center and we have a staff ready to help people as best they can. we do have shelters and will be a small window opening tomorrow morning after daylight so we're hoping that anyone who feels that they do need to seek shelter and encourage everyone to do that, call the emergency operations center and make arrangements if you can. >> mayor of st. augustine, florida, nancy shaver. we'll check back. continuing to follow the developments of hurricane matthew, quickly approaching florida. ♪
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breaking news tonight. millions of people in florida bracing for hurricane matthew, governor rick scott warning its storm could be a killer in his state. michael holmes is in melbourne area for us, expected to be impacted roughly this evening. michael florida's governor issued dire warnings to get out. what is latest? >> he said evacuate, evacuate, this storm could kill you.
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and predictions for this particular area, could be the hardest hit initially as eye and eye wall gets closer to the coast, could be the first place it impacts heavily. over the last couple of hours we've felt it steadily building up. rain is getting heavier. you get this sort of thing happening. another band coming through and howls along and whips up the rain. we're probably gusting around 50, 55, that's tropical form force winds. talking to weather guys two minutes ago, could see 100 miles an hour in the next few hours. probably 4:00 in the morning east coast time see the worst of it. where it's devastating is the storm surge and you've been talking about this with other guests, could be 11 to 12 feet
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high and barrier islands on the coast and houses out there. they've evacuated people from there but goodness knows what houses will look like tomorrow if they're even there. lot of the locals who have evacuated are in shelters but show you where we are, the hotel here, it's actually one of the very few hurricane rated buildings in this part of florida. so it's been a magnet for people. there's people in the lobby there just spending the night waiting it out because no rooms are left. talking to people staying here 80% are from around here, just wanted out of the house at coast to place that's hurricane rated. you can tell the anticipation apprehension going ob here right now. people don't know what they're going to find tomorrow when they get up. even the national weather
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service in florida using frightening language saying parts of this area could be uninhabitable for weeks or months. 100,000 people right now in florida without power. seen transformers popping off the last couple of hours, what tomorrow will bring, late morning when people start to get sense of the damage, we don't know. just depend, if that eye wobbles a little bit further to the east, make a massive difference here. wobbles further west, look out. >> and just point this out michael. we come to you every 15 or 20 minutes or so and evt it's raining harder and winds picked up. each time we come to you, it accelerates and often when you cover these stories it's upon you and don't realize how quickly it has come. >> exactly. this though has been building
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and building. this afternoon at 5:00 or 6:00, it was calm. little bit of a breeze. since then powered on in and we're far from the worst of it, four or five hours from that. but bands come in, our producer here is not largest young lady and been knocked off her feet a couple of times nearly. it's that's strong. when it rolls in it's hard. got a lot worse to come. >> stay safe. we'll check back. jeff piatowski is joining us. he's a storm chaser. looking at live pictures traveling along the road. where are you and what are you seeing? >> in cape canaveral right now and right now winds are 60, 65.
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number of coming up from jensen beach coming north. not a lot of damage just normal, palm tree limbs down and power lines, closer to 20 in the last 80 miles between jensen beach and cape canaveral but good thing is hurricane center adjusted the track slightly east from earlier forecast. these hurricanes approach the coast can wobble and eye wall opened up and getting absorbed in broader, increasing the storm. hurricane is trying to weaken a little bit, shifting right a little bit. may be really good news for the east coast of florida, may not be as much wind damage as we
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earlier thought today even through late this afternoon because it has to do with the eye. looks like it's going to stay offshore so going to literally come down to five to eight miles meaning the difference of heavy damage or none at all. that's the gradient. that's what we're seeing on the raid or. melbourne and miami, all afternoon. it's going to be a close call. >> we report that with a bit of a caveat because don't want people to get false sense of hope or security because the track could change at any moment. >> absolutely could change. yes. >> thank you jeff. we'll check back with you. coming up much more on breaking news tonight. millions bracing for hurricane matthew, monster storm already killed hundreds in haiti.
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more breaking news tonight. millions of people in florida taking shelter as hurricane matthew approaches. cnn's rosa flores is in jacksonville, give us the latest of what is going on. >> reporter: officials here saying that the next 24 hours are critical because that's when they're expecting brunt of this storm to hit this particular area. don we've been talking about people with homes and how they're hunkering down and what they're doing, we're at salvation army where people are
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without homes because imagine 90 to 115 mile per hour winds, what would homeless people do? lot are going to shelters like these. take you around. this particular shelter in jacksonville, florida, has about 55 to 60 people, capacity is probably about 120 but does serve as shelter. so there are other people here that are sheltered here on regular basis. so, you know, authorities here are worried because they believe a lot of people are not heeding the warning, coming to shelters, all over the city. about 2,000 people in shelters at this particular time. latest count but there's 456,000 people in the evacuation zone. so that's one of the reasons why
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officials say, you know, people are not heeding the warning, she should be seeing more people in shelters. just like earlier today officials were thinking should be seeing more people on roads exiting the city. were not seeing those numbers. that's why they're a bit worried don. because at this point officials are saying you've got to hunker down at home, stay where you're at right now, stay put because it's not going to be safe. don't know exactly when the winds will pick up here but next 24 hours probably and jacksonville is a city of bridges. that's how it's connected. once sustained winds go up to 40 to 45 miles arp hour those bridges are closed. not even first responders are able to move in those areas until conditions are safe enough to maneuver. what is next once the hurricane hits search and rescues we're
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expect and firs responders telling us. >> rosa flores, appreciate it. bring in alan levine and julia to talk about safety. alan levine is former secretary of health for florida and louisiana and disaster response expert and julia the author of "security mom," a lot of talk from state and local leaders stressing danger for people. are they learning from past mistakes. >> absolutely. every disaster is horrible but silver lining is do better last time. starting to see lessons of previous hurricanes, taken to
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protect lives in this one. movement forward, assets from the federal government. not waiting for storm to hit but prepositioned assets in place so when the storm passes by you already have relief efforts there. and what may have been viewed by some as too early evacuation order. it was not. problem with hurricane katrina, evacuation orders came too late and they were too voluntary, in quotes. reason you are hearing political officials be angry and direct and scary, tough love so to speak is fear gets people to move. that's what you want. we need people to evacuate, it is stupid to stay put. self selfish, puts other in harm and seeing the lessons played out
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now. >> alan you have worked in preparation and response to ten hurricanes, how does this compare to other storms that have made landfall in florida? >> one thing about florida, we went through eight major hurricanes that made landfall and set the standard for disaster management. the citizens there are resilient, been through this many times, know what needs to be done. and i will say governor scott, state emergency response team and fact that craig fu ge, the administrator of fema used to run the florida department, everybody can rest assured he's going to have their back and governor stay on top of this, but what makes this different is sheer power. potential for inland flooding and post storm death if people are not smart after the storm.
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all remain the same. i'm remaining hopeful as we see the storm wobble a little bit, hopefully get a break here. but people in florida are used to this, been through it and know what to expect. >> does it make a difference juliet that the president has all right signed, does it help get resources in faster? >> absolutely. fema has changed a lot since katrina. more forward leaning and had people in state specifically for this hurricane for a couple of days. presidential declaration is unique, doesn't happen often before a hurricane hits but it's a way of federal government assuring money and materials and assets and other things that will be needed in response. exactly what we've been saying,
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forward republicleaning approact weather maps have been clear this was different than previous hurricane threats. let's hope that wobbling that everyone is talking about will ease some of the stresses for communities there but obviously have to plan for the worst in situations like that. >> ask you about zika, mime 80 fighting zika virus, lots of water here, does this cause to spread more rapidly over wider area? >> sure. there's been a lot of rain and anytime you have saturation, then you add to it the potential for a storm surge and potentially you can have real issues. this is why it's important if you see flooding to stay away from it. that's where you can have potential for downed power lines, sharp objects in the water and other thinks that can cause harm. craig was my colleague in
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florida in the eight storms in 2004 and 2005, and craig always says he wants to lean in. always been his strategy. one thing floridians should be comfortable is when search and rescue begins, as long as people heed warnings of officials and stay out of the way and let search and rescue commence, i think you'll see a smooth process. one thing too, don, people should be parable. if they chose to stay and not evacuate, hopefully stocked up with enough supplies to last three to five days. and if they did evacuate, particularly with the path of the storm that may loop back around, may be a period of time before they can get back into home. be patient and listen to local
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emergency management officials. >> stand by. come back with breaking news as millions of people take shelter as hurricane matthew approaches florida's coast.
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our breaking news, millions of people taking shelter tonight as hurricane matthew approaches the florida coast. we've got a bit of good news tonight. the f lauderdale airport set to reopen. sarah okay. we don't have sara sidner. we can hear her getting ready there. apparently we lost communication. again, we have been speaking to officials all over florida who have been saying the same thing, telling folks there to heed the warnings, to get out, to evacuate and if you can't, at a certain point in time you have to stay there and you will have to shelter in place. sara sidner is back with us now. you have been witnessing that all day. what's the latest from daytona? >> reporter: we know least one
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county decided to stop sending out any kind of emergency services. and the authorities have been saying as this comes ashore, we are going to stop sending out anyone to try to rescue you. we are getting to that point. we know the storm has gone off shore a little more. they are hoping it stays that way and the eye doesn't get as close as they thought it once would. but winds, rain, whipping up yet again. we are starting to get blown around here. stronger and stronger bands coming in. one just now. the rain will start to go this way and suddenly it will shift and go a different way and then it will go vertical. this is what you get when a hurricane comes along. i have been through a few myself an i know, don, you have been through a few. the big concern is flooding and downed power lines. we know that happens, and then people get electrocuted because they are in the water and don't realize. for example, a downed power line
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has fallen in the dark. that's one reason they said here in daytona beach that they do not want folks on the street. they have put a curfew in place to make sure the people are in their homes, are in a safe place, are away from the water and we can tell you the storm surge has come up significantly. the entire beach, almost the entire beach is covered in water. if that gets much higher, we are going to go to higher ground. we are at a cove here with a huge concrete hotel behind us. so we can get in and out very quickly. but the water is rising. if they get these very high-powered, maybe category three force winds that water is going to rise. it will come to the boardwalk. it will make a problem for the businesses who have boarded up. we are watching and waiting, trying to stay in an area where we are safe, but also give you
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an idea what the conditions are. it's starting to blow harder than it was earl you today. >> be safe. we will check back. allen, as we are watching the radar, the storm is going up the coast, not making landfall. could that be giving us any false sense of security? again, it may not have the impact that they thought it was, may not and i stress that. people should not have a false seasons of security right now. >> you are right. i remember back in 2004 with hurricane charley, it was moving up the west coast. people expected it was going to go in to tampa bay. i was sitting with governor bush preparing for a media advisory and all of a sudden ben nelson, our state meteorologist came in and told us the storm had just shifted. we asked when it was going to hit and he said right now.
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it was going to hit charlotte county. that's where there was major devastation. these storms are not linear. that skinny black line doesn't mean a lot. if that storm wobbles a little to the west, towards the west, you are going to have landfall. not to mention the fact that you are going to have storm surge. everything north of that storm is going to bring storm surge. people need -- at this point it is probably too late to evacuate but they need to hunker down and heed the advice of their local emergency management officials when the search and rescue begins. >> how do they break things up? you have the federal response, the local response, the state response and all of that. i imagine there are certain entities now making sure things are safe. making people get out of their homes and off the roads and then people figuring out what to do next once it is over.
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>> that's right. there's a formal process, even disaster management has an incident response process. right now we are a little holding pattern. a lot of evacuations have to stop. some counties are pulling back emergency response capabilities. wait out the hurricane and then once, you know, you get sunlight and you know things are safe, they will start the short term and long term recovery effort. it is called a disaster for a region. people need to be patient. things don't work as smoothly as they used to and remember when hurricane katrina hit it was not a category five by then. it was a category three and in some places two. people do not die, things do not get damaged because of the hurricane itself it's all the stuff after, the flooding, the electrocution, the lack of clean water. this is going to be -- whatever
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happens tonight with where the eye is hitting, just to reiterate what you were saying this will have impacts related to the hurricane but don't have to do with what the category is right now. >> great advice and information from allen and juliet. appreciate that. that's it for us tonight. our live coverage of hurricane matthew continues in just a moment with john vause in los angeles and michael holmes in florida. i'm don lemon. good night. an opening night on broadway is kind of magic. i'm beowulf boritt and i'm a broadway set designer. when i started designing a bronx tale: the musical, i came up... ...with this idea of four towers that were fire escapes... ...essentially. i'll build a little model in photoshop and add these... ...details in with a pen. i could never do that with a mac. i feel like my job is... ...to put out there just enough detail to spur the audiences... ...imagination to fill in all the blanks. this windows pc is amazing, having all of my tools... ...right at my finger tips is incredible. ...that stood up what ifto the humiditypaint... of a shower this steamy...
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hello, everyone. welcome to our continuing breaking news coverage of hurricane matthew. i'm michael hom s in melbourne, florida where the hurricane is heading at the moment. >> it is 10:00 p.m. here in los angeles. i'm john vause. we'd like to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this hurricane is expected to deliver a catastrophic damage in the state of florida, if it makes landfall. officials warn that if it hits