hello and welcome to nx. i'm john king. we begin the hour tracking breaking news. live pictures from daytona beach, florida. you can see howling wind, driving rain batters the east coast of florida throughout the day. most distressing news, hurricane matthew moving slowly, not letting up anytime soon. president obama emphasized that at a white house just a short time ago. >> i just want to emphasize to everybody that this is still a really dangerous hurricane. that the potential for storm surge, flooding, loss of life and severe property damage continues to exist. >> that's the president after a briefing from his team. meantime, check out these ima images. daytona beach. more than 600,000 people without power in florida. the storm a category 3.

some of the winds people are experiencing in excess of 100 miles per hour. the eyewall xur ig the stascurr state's coastline. georgia after florida it's a matthew moves up the coast. sadly the first hurricane-related death in florida. a 50-year-old woman suffered a heart attack and died. officials call it a storm-related death because emergency workers had to stop calls due to the high winds of matthew. and further north in the carolinas, the governor of south carolina nikki haley urging residents to be smart, safe and listen toorders as matthew approaches. >> people always say, it will pass, it will pass, it is getting worse and we're seeing it getting worse. the surge is worst, rainfall numbers are worse.

please, don't find excuses to do this. this tl is no excuse to risk your life. >> a lot changing as the storm moves slowly up the coast. cnn has you covered. begin with victor blackwell in vakzville. that city expected to get the brunt of the storm in a few hours. victor, bring us up to speed on the very latest in jacksonville. >> reporter: the storm surge, john is the major concern here. we just spoke with the mayor's office. their concern between 1:00 and 2:00 p.m. and 1:00 and 2:00 a.m. those will be the really crucial hours over the next 24 hours, and coincidentally, high tide here comes at 2:30. you'll have those two elements clashing together here. high tide and the storm surge as we continue to see the rain and wind here. now, speaking of the wind, there have now been bridge closures. over my shoulders, the main street bridge is still open. this will shut down when winds hit about 50 miles per hour. not seeing, the national weather service gusts reaching 37 to 40

miles an hour, but several bridges across jacksonville have been shut down. intercoastal bridge, a bridge from atlantic bfroulevard. those shut down and evacuation from a hospital, one county north in nassau county, the baptist beaches hospital there in nassau county. those patients moved to another hospital, but, again, the major concern here, the surge, which on an average afternoon, a thunderstorm in the summer will flood the communities of sanmarco, riverside, avondale occasional occasionally. we're expecting the worse to come over the next several hours. again, the hour of concern, one hour from now, 1:00 to 2:00 p.m., john. >> and victor, the concern year hears, heard from the south carolina governor, florida governor said early. president yift saying, maybe you watched the news, thought south florida didn't get his add hard if following it's news yesterday. in jacksonville that area, thinking this isn't so bad, i can ride it out?

>> reporter: this is -- there is unfortunately a false sense of security here. a false sense of feeling that everything is okay. this is the community that hasn't been hit by a major hurricane since 1964. that's the one that hit, dora, that came in from senegal across the atlantic, slammed and then headed to the northeast. there have been brushes by over the last several years. 1999, floyd took a similar path as matthew but a little futter east. further east. i covered faye that rained and rained. a very long time since they've seen a storm like this. although what we saw in the south was not as bad as some expected it would be. jacksonville is now under the bull's-eye and has to prepare. if they did not get out with the 450,000 people the mayor says listened to that evacuation order, they're being told to stay where they are, because the worst is coming. >> victor blackwell, stay safe as it comes your way.

boris, watching live throughout the morning, debris flying through the streets. as you get a better scope of damage, any great sense how bad and widespread? >> reporter: it's simply too soon at this point, john. the chief of police when we spoke to him earlier today told us things were going relatively well. i'll get out of the way and give you an idea what we're seeing here. as you mentioned, john, the debris in the streets is extensive. we've watched as this roof and the business across the street from us has just come undone. you see some of the roofing materials in the middle of the street here. seen large sheets of scrap metal blown through the streets. pieces of palm tree as will. look to the left. palm trees in the distance. gone completely over, and just as we getting ready to get on with you, things seemed to calm down. we're now in the southwest portion of the hurricane, supposed to be basically the

weaker part of the storm. the winds are shifting, though, and we're still feeling them pounding this way. what we're waiting on now is an idea of just how many people lost power here. the lights were going on and off all morning, and this area it appears they've gone completely dark. the other big concern here is the storm surge as we were watching from our hotel balcony this morning, the water was creeping closer and closer. there's actually a boardwalk not far from the hotel where we are right now. and it was -- forgive me if i keep looking to the sides, john. concerned a piece of debris might fly at us, but it was taking very, very high waves as we were standing there, watching this thing. i spoke to a man here the last time daytona suffered a direct hit from a hurricane. he told me the whole thing was inundated with water. a very high boardwalk and wouldn't be surprise fundamental it happened again. we've had to move around several times because of dangerous winds and rain, and at pun won't earlier we standing under an

awning at the loop, in front of the lobby of the hotel and heard loud crashing above us. got out of the way moments later at least a 500 to 800-pound window came crashing down and then glass started to fall and a piece of wood fell through the awning literally right where we were standing. and here's another huge gust of wind. so -- even as i'm talking, even as this is supposed to be, you know, the lesser part of the storm, you can see, john, things are very much in flux here. still a very, very precarious and dangerous situation. officials have done everything that they can from days ago asking people to stay off the street. unfortunately, since we've been reporting here this morning, we've seen people walking through the street. as a matter of fact, this morning, i saw a guy doing doughnuts in an internesection, doing tricks in this car. we there with the chief of police. that man was later stopped and taken to jail bp goes to show some people don't listen and put their own risks at risk and also

the lives of the emergency personnel. the police officers and men and women that go out and try to save people's lives in these dangerous, dangerous conditions, john. >> nice advice and insights from boris sanchez live from daytona beach. smart enough to stay in your house, give it a couple more hours. wait for local officials to sell you it's safe to go outside. now to chad myers in the cnn hurricane center. chad, a lot of people watching and say, yesterday you said this might hit landfall. said it might be catastrophic. if you're further up, there's a sense of complacency you hear all officials saying don't let it happen to you. this thing is still a monster and coming your way. >> the pressure did not go up yet, john, meaning this storm didn't die. what happened, it stays off shore by about 20 miles. here is shore, right here. here's the path, right here. it has been wobbling back foornlgd, depending which way it decides to go, left or go right. it hasn't been a straight path. i'll show thaw you that in a se. what it is doing now is staying

in the gulf stream. that's the warm water just offshore of florida. so that's why it's not dying. so what it's doing is that it's building water here. it's building storm surge, and then you think, well, the coast continues to go that way. it won't ever make landfall. the problem is, the coast doesn't continue to go that way. it goes that way. because that's georgia and south carolina. so as this storm continues to move from southeast to northwest it will eventually get all the way into georgia and south carolina with a significant, i believe, i think it's going to be a significant storm surge there. let's get rid of this for a second and move you to this. this is jacksonville beach. on a normal spring day, spring break, my son and i right there, fishing off that pier you can hardly see. this should be a beach. the beach is completely gone. can't see it, but i assume there's even water in the parking lot here. there right along the jacksonville beach. here's where it's going from

here. and this is what the problem is. it hasn't lost any intensity. i know it's not 140, but 120. pressure hasn't done much. the storm is still very, very strong, waiting to hit land, waiting to do something. so as the storm continues to move to the north it will move into land at some point. whether it's brunswick, whether it's savannah, or whether it's charleston, this storm will run into the coast, because the coast turns before it will. and that's the problem. it's still very strong with all of that bubble of water, a 9 to 11-foot storm surge somewhere. whether schem creek in charleston or whether it's tybee island or somewhere there across the northern sections, as the arm changes, as the coastline turns to the right, this storm will come onshore. so it will be a significant storm for someone. hopefully florida completely in the clear. i'm not sure jacksonville is yet because of that surge that's going to go into the st. john's

river. john? >> chad myers, thanks. we'll stay in touch throughout the hour and throughout the day. we mentioned, chad noted there, hurricane matthew bearing down on jacksonville, a major point of concern for the governor, rick scott. listen here. >> we are very concerned about storm surge. and the worst effects are still likely to come. if you reshgs the jacksonville area has a low-lying area especially nassau county. we're very focused on jacksonville. there's potential for significant flooding here and we're not through this at all. there's no victory lap here. the victory lap is when this storm leaves our state, and i hope it doesn't hit you know, georgia south and north carolina. >> governor rick scott earlier today. again, the focus isn't on the winds it's on the water. the storm surge. talk more about jacksonville with that city's sheriff, mike williams. thank you for your time. i know you're preparing. you heard the governor, heard

chad myers. yes, winds are punishing, but because of the river that comes into jacksonville they're worried about the storm surge. what are you told the latest how much of a storm surge to look for and how far inland? >> well, you know, thanks again, john. it obviously depends on the, where we are. the river's a significant part of ow geography and gives a long way through due val county. six to seven feet and others maybe only three feet. all is significant. anything over three feet is a threat to life and we've been putting out that information since early yesterday, and so we're obviously taking this very seriously and the governor's right. water is our big concern. we are concerned about wind, too, the next couple hours but dealing with the flooding for at least a couple days. >> and you've got a couple hours before you get the brunt of it. what's your biggest concern right now and do you have people in areas that are supposed to be evacuated who aren't listening? >> you know, we do. we started early yesterday

morning encouraging feel evacuate. the mayor ordered evacuations of the beaches and other low-lying areas. we think based on traffic yesterday that we had a good number of people take advantage of that, but at this point, speblsly this morning, we began to tell people, look, stay where you are. hunker down, ride the storm out. we're playing it for the worst and hoping for the best and it looks like that we'll be catching the brunt of the storm here in the next couple hour, and really through probably the next eight hours. so we've done a lot to message that to the community, and prepare for that obviously and then we'll you know, we will after that plan for the recovery. >> but if there's somebody who ignored those orders you're advice now, stay put. too late to move or still time to get out? >> no. it's too late to move at this point. i wouldn't recommend anybody be on the roads at this point. we have, again from this morning, been encouraging people to stay where you are and hunker down and ride the storm out. so we're monitoring calls for

service and doing all that we can do but we have to gauge that with putting our first responders at risk as well. also a message we've been talking about the last several days. that there will be a point where first responders it won't be safe for them to be on the roads either. again, that's a minute-by-minute conversation and evaluation we're having. at this point it's best for everyone to stay in the house, stay where they are. you should be in your safe place by now and ride it out together. >> sheriff, how different is the add vees you're getting, the forecasts you're getting, the track, damage pro frekz jekz p gettingiously the track changed. what are they telling you different from yesterday? >> we've been fortunate enough we've got the, a representative from the national weather service here with us. the national hurricane center with us. we're getting great up to date information about the weather, and you know, we had many reports yesterday that the worst case scenarios kept getting worse and worse and worse. so we got a little bit of a

break today with some of the messaging but nothing that changes any of our messaging to the public. so while i dt did stay offshore we're still taking the hit of a major hurricane and, again, putting that information out to our community the past couple of days. again, while we hope that it will, the impacts won't be as grave as we anticipated, we still expect and anticipate significant impact and damage from the storm. >> sheriff, appreciate your time on this busy day. good luck to you and your entire force in the hours ahead. folks, in the jacksonville area, listen to your sheriff. if you're in a place that should have evacuated, hunker down. wait it out. president obama got an update from the federal emergency agent and department of homeland security. next, head of fema join us live with the latest on the response to hurricane matthew.

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continuing our breaking news coverage of hurricane matthew making its way up the florida coast moving slowly up florida's east coast expected to da ed ten on jacksonville a bit later. we'll soon be able to assess damage. debris all over the streets, roofs torn off. more than a half million people without power and a state of emergency in effect in the state of florida. president obama speaking this morning at the white house just after a brief from the fema administrator craig fugate, so pay attention to what your local officials are telling you. if they tell you you need to evacuate, you need to get out of there and move to higher ground, because storm surge can move very quickly and people can

think that they're out of the woods and then suddenly get hit and not be in a position in which they and their families are safe. >> craig fugate joins us now by phone. thanks for joining us on this very busy time. interesting throughout the day. i listened to you, the governor of north carolina, the president of the united states. in all messages, watching the news and this this wasn't as bad as you thought, think i'm fine, i can stay put and live in jacksonville, charleston or savannah, that's the wrong reaction? >> absolutely. people have seen some of the earlier reports out of south florida and said this storm's not that bad, or it's weakened. no longary category 4 hurricane. and we need to really emphasize that this is -- still a very dangerous storm. particularly for north florida and south carolina, georgia, even up to north carolina. time is running out and people need to move to higher ground.

>> you're from florida originally. the state emergency director there. when you see this storm off the coast that hasn't hit land, holding a lot of water out there and coming to where the coast standards to bend, jacksonville, i assume you're worrying more about a surge than the winds? not that you're taking the winds lightly, but that a lot of water. >> it's a lot of water, and when you look at past hurricanes the biggest from hurricanes has always been water. talk to wind and power outages. but it's really about the damaging and life-threatening storm surge we'll see in these coastal communities. >> take me through the nuts and bolts, logistics, i guess it is, of your emergency response teams. you were prepared if this thing hit land further to the south. obviously it's caused damage there. now it looks like if there's a big impact it will be more to the north. how are you moving things around and where are they going? >> we were already anticipating having support most of the southern southeast coastal states. we've had staging areas up in fort bragg supporting north carolina, south carolina. we've had staging areas in

albany ready to support georgia and florida. moved resources down to orlando. so we've been anticipating all four states getting hit with some degree of impacts and as the storm moves up we'll move resources and adjust based upon the track and impacts. >> any hiccups, problems? whether coordination or supplies falling out of play along the way? >> not that i'm aware of. but it's a disaster i'm sure we'll see that. part of the reason we tend to overrespond. you don't have precision in these things and i'd rather have stuff later turns out i didn't need than to be late. we've based this, again, as looking at populations of south florida, a very large number. we'll be adjusting based upon the areas of impact and moving resources but we're not turning anything off or turning anything away until we are absolutely certain that the states will have no unmet needs in their initial response operations. >> what is the latest information you have, the latest projection on where it hits land? >> well, you know, that's kind

of the question, as it is now, staying right off the florida coast. looks based on forecast track closest point of approach if it makes landfall, south carolina. but as my good friend former director of the center max mayfield used to say don't focus on that skinny black line. hurricanes are not a point on the map. this is an area of impact over a large area. storm surge, heavy rains, talking potential with the weather service about heavy rains in north carolina causing tremendous flash flooding. you need to heed local officials, local weather service offices. don't worry much about landfall. this storm is close enough the impact are pretty dramatic for most of the coastal communities as it goes by. >> as you were speaking, showing pretty high water on the streets of st. augustine florida, to your point about flooding coming in and the worst of matthew not up to that area just yet. you have access to the highest technical equipment in the land, planes flying into the eye of the storm but operate fema with

something consulted the waffle house. explain that? >> one of the things we observed, waffle houses were usually the first things open, if they even close. the waffle house was open we knew it wasn't too bad. keep going. open with a limited menu, a lot of power outages and needed to support mass care. if the waffle house is closed, a bad indicator. i believe waffle houses are closing in advance of the storm. so in florida, i think that helped a lot of people understand that nobody was kidding around. this storm was bad. we've had disney closed, college football games cancelled. so a lot of people taking steps to get ready. >> all of the science in the world. sometimes make it personal and bring it home. craig fugate thanks for your time on this busy day. appreciate you joining us to give us the latest. this storm barreling towards jacksonville moving up the florida coast and smaller coastal towns also hit hard. talk to the mayor of st. augustine.

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florida, one of the areas under mandatory evacuation because of hurricane matthew. now a storm surge hitting that area as we speak. this individual qvideo shot at casablanca hotel. the storm surge rolled through. water going um the stairs. joining me on the phone mayor of st. augustine nancy shaver. mayor you see the pictures. alarming. what are you experiencing right now? >> well, why don't i sort of do a little correction here. i just spoke to our emergency folks. those are not guests of the inn. those are actually apparently young people who have chose ton stay there. we have been in contact with them, and they have told us they really don't wish to be, have any assistance. at this point in time, none of our first responders are going out in this storm. that is an evacuation zone. whoever is there right now certainly should have evacuated some time ago and they're not guests of the inn.

>> how big of a problem is that? i'm going to call hem on the air nush knuckleheading for not evacua evacuati evacuating. >> thank you for asking. it's quite a problem. visual inspection, 50% of the people who should have evacuated and are not. at this point we are encouraging people to stay in place. we've lost power, we've turned off the water as a precautionary measure last night at 8:00. this is, as you know, you've been reporting, an extremely serious storm and important for people to take it seriously. people who do not really put our first responders at risk and their own lives at risk, and the governor said many times. >> we're seeing this play out now. >> yes, we are. >> the brunt of it is not there yet. what have you been told? the worst case scenario they've been telling you to prepare for? >> right now the risk is the storm surge. obviously, we have winds of 100

miles an hour plus, we're expecting. pieces of that. tropical storm now's all bridges closed. the storm surge is expected to be between five and eight feet which is just a tremendous amount of water to come into our city, and obviously our barrier islands. so our concern right now is health and safety of the folks and everyone should stay put. this is not -- this is not a boy scout camping adventure time. >> some people clearly stru that way. these people, knuckleheads, as i said if there are some people who ignored orders to get out and now see the surge come through, and the worst is yet to come, is there nag can be done? if they suddenly raise their hand and say i want to get out or is it too late? >> it is really too late. it was too late probably around 8:00 this morning. a small windows this morning people could have evacuated. we have capacity at shelters and were hopeful as many people as possible would move. if they have not moved now, they

need to stay as safe as they possibly can, and we will obviously get to them as quickly as we can, when the storm passes. one of the things that i'd like to share with folks is, please, stay put. until places are cleared. more injuries actually happen post-storm than during the storm, because people go out. they're looking to do things, perhaps to help their property in some way or they feel they need to get out to get, just some, for some reason, but, please don't. please don't until the area is cleared and safe. >> appreciate your time on this busy day. best of luck in the hours ahead. we'll be in touch. drop in a listen in atlanta talking how the storm is approaching georgia. let's listen. >> visited chas chatham county and the stip emergency management operations and had the opportunity on the phone to speak with president obama, who called me while i was there in

savannah. i reiterated to him we had filed a request for a federal emergency declaration. he said he would attend to that, and last evening he did so. the emergency area under the federal declaration corresponds wit area that was under my emergency declaration. that is, includes over 518,000 residents that are in mandatory evacuation areas, and some 1 million-plus residents who are affected by the suggested evacuation areas. so it is a large number of individuals. what we're going to do today is to give you an overview and further detail about what has happened since we talked yesterday, and i believe that when you see that, will you see that things are coming together from the state's stand point in terms of preparation.

i might also add that in addition to talking with president obama, i have talked with brigadier general turner, and he has spoke ton my stan to again. he advised he is moving a colonel mike chance fri from louisiana to our state headquarters here to assist us. as you know they've had experience in louisiana with the corps of engineers and these kinds of situations. i also spoke last evening with governor scott of florida and with governor abbott of texas. they both called to say that -- >> that's governor nathan deal in georgia updating citizens of his state and us nationally on preparations as the storm moves up the coast. we'll keep in touch and keep an eye on what the governor says in georgia bringing you important information going through. joining me on the phone now one of the skilled and fearless crewmen who fly directly into

the hurricane. captain tim gag gur, p3 navigator with noaa. national oceanic association. inside the storm a few hours ago. compare it to other storms you've flown into. what makes matthew differ? >> good afternoon, john. thank you for having me. as far as the storm itself goes, the -- this one yesterday, it was the last time we in, inside. ever had a concentric eyewall. two eyes essentially. it had a small eye in the middle, maybe about ten miles across and then there was a larger eye outside of that that was maybe about, about 50 miles across. so kind of a different, a different setup than what you normally experience. >> you clearly don't do this for kicks. tell our viewers what kind of information do you get being right up there like that?

pretty dangerous nap we can't get from other sensor or satellite images? >> you're exactly right. we're not doing this for fun but to collect vital and crucial data that feeds and informs the models and the forecasts, both the track and the intensity. so the emergency managers you talked with, the mayor of st. augustine, so they can be prepared on the ground, and evacuate the right people at the right time to ensure that people remain safe. so, you know, we're collecting wind speeds, pressures, humidity. all of those feed into the model it's, and then inform those forecasts. >> and we're showing some of the images of these flights. you're bouncing around a lot, heavy turbulence and taking risks for the people of these states that are going to be impacted. talk about that a little bit. what it's like to bounce through this. >> well, you know i think what you see there is's kind of a

very, a very small portion of the rest of the storm. there are very intense moments, as turbulence, and then the rest is not as -- not as intense. but, you know, the idea is by -- going through and -- and getting those data in that tush bearbuld intense eyewall you have a very good characterization of what the storm is about, and its intensity. >> any big difference going back 24 3shgs 6 hours in time to where we are now, has not hit land. our meteorologist chad myers said earlier. as it hugs the coast and moves up it's sucking up a lot of water. a larger water mass. more threat of storm surge, if you will. >> so i'm not a meteorologist by

trade. so i can't speak as well to that, but, again, we've continued to have aircraft in the storm collecting those data, and continuing to feed that forecast, and what you see is, as the storm comes ashore and the doppler -- the onshore doppler radars pick up the feeder bin, can you see how the, how that interaction plays out as the storm comes ashore. >> captain tim gag gur, apprecia gallagher, appreciate your information from you and your colleagues keeping track of that. following hurricane matthew as it slams the keecoast. as we all watch the hurricanes, politics. critical moments await donald trump and hillary clinton. how are they getting ready for the presidential debate? that's next. ♪ ♪

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catching up on the countdown from the presidential debate. hillary clinton off to focus on debate prep but has high-powered surrogate help. vice president biden, elizabeth warren making stops. and donald trump a mix of debate prep and meetings today at the trump tower in new york. in new hampshire last night for a town hall. the format sunday night. trump aides in advance of the event told us this was good practice nap apparently annoyed the candidate who observed he's sometimes treated like a child. >> they were saying, this is practice for sunday. this isn't practice. this has noll nothithing to do practice. we're just here wah we wanted to be here. frankly. hill are yary talks about debat. that's not debate prep. she's resting. and i want to be with the american people, i want to be with the people from new hampshire and she wants to rest.

>> with us to share insights, my thanks to all of you for your patience through the storm coming in. this is not debate prep. put a picture up on the screen, the "wall street journal" tweeted a picture, not debate prep yaet two-minute clock was on the floor that happens to be the timer, molly, that's the time limit for your answers at the town hall sunday night pap freak coincidence. >> look, trump's advisers do want him to practice and can't get him to do it, and they literally created this public situation to try to get him to do it, and what does he do? goes out and says he's not doing it. this is an ongoing problem for the people who want trump to win. the most strongly. it is just impossible to focus his attention on these kinds of tasks and he would rather be out there as he said, he really does like being out there with the people. he really does like doing events and doesn't like sitting and studying. >> often what focuses donald trump's attention is polls. he obsesses about polls and

lately are not good. a new quinnipiac poll, clinton 45, trump 40. johnson 6, stein 3. he heads into the second debate five points nationally pick your battleground state, through nevada, ohio, north carolina, through florida. name them. very close. some of them. clinton moving in all of them. you they would get his attention? >> you'd think, but at least publicly it's not getting his attention. i this what he and his aides are beginning to understand is that if he does poorly again sunday night, you're going to start to see especially the most vulnerable republican congressional candidates pull away from him for good. whether kill ayotelly ayotte, t stumble, pat toomey in pennsylvania, joe in colorado despite he's doing all right despite support for trump, and you'll see them making the same argument republicans made in 1996 when bob dole was losing and new bill clinton would get reelected nap argument could

work. the races, most critical remained close and republicans have narrow leads. >> watched for the town hall setting. how do you interact with people? voters asking questions. empathy, emote with them? personal stories with what they're going through. donald trump likes being with the people but his answers are odd. last night when asked about the fbi director and whether donald trump wins the election he would fire the fbi director. >> what would you do with comey? >> i just am very disappointed. i mean you know when he read the charges, and he's going, one, two, three, four -- and i'm saying -- wow. they're going to do the right thing. and then he goes, essentially, however -- it was -- i mean, it was amazing. amazing. to go point after point, and that was only a few of them. so it's very disappointing. >> one, he didn't fill up his two minutes of time there. one thing that --

>> absolutely. >> really odd for not going into overtime. voters at this point if they will be the ones who will be in the audience, but the ones watching this are used to a little more, i guess, full-throated or fulsome answers nap is a little, consciousness sashgs parties like it, but no meat on the bone there's. contrast with hillary clinton. thinking back to her moments in this campaign. some of the strongest ones have come in town halls, from questions that she wasn't necessarily expecting, and given how she answers them you can tell she's spent, a., time practice, won't apologize for it and b. a lifetime of work sometimes is able to come out in a town hall setting. i think schae an advantage going in. the question is, is the bar lowered for donald trump if he performs better in the second debate, he almost certainly will. will that be viewed as a win? ed is right. the time republicans need him to

step up. >> one of the things trump and his advisers did in this town hall a friendly audience. taking questions from people who are inclined to support him anyways, more likely to ask about things like clinton's e-mails, various things that republicans can get pretty worked up about when he is in this debate sunday, undecided voters and most likely asking questions that relate to their lives, to the economy, to their fears about national security, and we haven't seen him in a setting like that basically this entire election. that's hard. >> hard and the stakes high on him. i was as a charity event last night. texts on the phone my name came up at the event. asked reports he was unhappy after the vice presidential debate and here you go. >> you know, they use john king, actually. he's a nice guy. i like him on the maps. does a good job on the maps. i like him now better than a couple months ago. a couple months ago, no chance. now all of a sudden that map is getting very red. >> i like you on the maps, too. >> thank you. glad you like --

>> we can all agree with donald trump. >> didn't have sources. he was taking he was unhappy with mike pence's performance. after the debate indications from somebody in the room with donald trump and a good friend what he didn't like was the media account aing pence was a better debater, pence didn't defend him. hillary clinton and mike pence are better debaters and could learn a lot from donald trump. i'm told that's what he didn't like. >> took ownership. i picked him. >> not only did he rush to take ownership, sent mike pence out to say i think donald trump won. incredible the amount of management of the candidate that has to happen with trump. >> my mother says, somebody says something about you focus on the good things. so mr. trump, thank you very much. appreciate it. watch the second presidential debate right here on cnn sunday, 9:00 p.m. eastern. might even be a map involved. back with your hurricane coverage, just ahead.

after hurricane matthew passes florida, tybee island. a few miles downtown. all under mandatory i evacuation as is everything in the savannah area, east of interstate 95. sara ganim is there now. despite the mandatory evacuation, people are staying put. are they telling you why? >> reporter: yeah, some people are staying put. just a minute ago, though, lit reat seconds ago, john, the last of the evacuation buses rolled out. more than 2,000 people did leave the area. we talked to one couple who was with their 1-year-old. they were getting on this bus,

but they were very upset and nervous for the people they were leaving behind. in this case, the mother and their father who were elderly and decided to stay back in savannah like many other residents here. take a listen. >> and is this in the best interests of our child? if it wasn't for our child we probably would try to ride it out, but, you know, we have our little one. we can't just think about us. we have to think about our family as a whole. >> reporter: what about other members of your family? >> well, my mom i tried to contact her. if she's out there, ma, ma, i really, really, want you to come here. i don't know what's going on i really, really want you to leave just to make sure you're safe. >> reporter: you know that very emotional plea, john, we saw that from a lot of different people who are coming here to the civic center in savannah getting on the buses. leaving behind their neighbors. neighbors with kids. neighbors who were elderly, who just did not want to get on these buses and leave for augusta, but as eastern the

president of the united states warned, this is an area that could see a storm surge up to 11 feet. it's imperative the people here begin to get out. john? >> you could hear the anxiety any that woman's voice. sara ganim on the ground. thanks so much. if you can get out, get out. wolf has more coverage on hurricane matthew right after a quick break. mom, i have to tell you something. dad, one second i was driving and then the next... they just didn't stop and then... i'm really sorry. i wrecked the subaru. i wrecked it. you're ok. that's all that matters. (vo) a lifetime commitment to getting them home safely. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. across new york state, from long island to buffalo,

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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we begin with the breaking news. hurricane matthew battering the florida coast with 120 mile-per-hour winds, and pounding surf. take a look at these pictures from a cnn affiliate in st. augustine, florida. adults and children stranded in a bed and breakfast. the center of the storm 90 miles southeast of jacksonville, florida. utility companies say nearly 827,000 customers in the state are without electricity