good evening again tonight. donald trump and what he says he can get away, with women, up to and including actions that to many add up to sexual assault. grabbing a woman by her genitals and getting away with it, he says, because he's a star. right now, the trump campaign in full damage control mode, huddling at trump tower as we speak, dealing with the leaking of a video that has him saying exactly that, an open microphone picked it up on a bus during a conversation between trump and billy bush, who was then with "access hollywood." they were pulling up to a soap opera set. this was back in 2005.

donald trump was 59 years old. they were talking about first about a married woman that trump had tried to seduce, but he does not use that word, and then they talk about the soap star they were about to meet. "the washington post" obtained the tape. we're going to play it in full with the exception of one f-word, but we need to warn you that much of what is left is extremely graphic and obscene. >> and -- >> she's still very beautiful. i moved on her, actually. she was out of palm beach. i moved on her and i failed. i moved on her. i did try to [ muted ] her. she was married. >> that's huge news. >> no, no. nancy. no, this was -- and i moved on very haeeavily. informal, i took her out furniture shopping. i moved on her like a bitch. and all of a sudden i see her, she's got the big phoney tits and she's totally changed her looks. >> she's your girl, hot as shit

in the purple. whoa! my man! >> that is very -- you are a piece of -- maybe it's a different one. >> better not be. >> yeah, that's her. with the gold. i've got to take some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. i don't even -- and when you're a star, they let you do, you can do whatever you want. grab 'em by the pussy. >> those legs, all i can see is the legs. >> no, it looks good. >> come on, shorty! >> oh, nice legs. >> oh, get out of the way, hon. oh, good legs. go ahead. >> it's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. like ford. gerald ford, remember? >> down below. pull the handle. >> hello. how are you, hi?

>> hi, mr. trump. >> nice to see you. you know billy bush. >> hello, nice to see you. how are you doing, marianne? >> i'm doing very well. are you ready to be a soap star? >> i'm ready. >> how about a lig hug for the donald. >> would you like a little hug, darling? >> melania said this would be okay. >> how about me? >> excellent. you've got a nice co-star here. >> yes, absolutely you. >> nearly immediately, the trump campaign put out a statement, which used the word "apologize," though you can judge for yourself whether it is an apology or not. it reads, this was locker room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. bill clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course, not even close. i apologize if anyone was offended. for her part, hillary clinton tweeted, this is horrific. we cannot allow this man to become president. late this evening, republican party chair reince priebus had this to say. he said, no woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner ever. this really just the beginning

of the reactions. cnn's senior white house correspondent, jim acosta, who's covering the trump campaign joins us now with more. and jim, this statement from trump which says, you know, i apologize if someone was offended is short of a full-throated the apology. are people saying this is enough? >> it's not an apology, john. and going after bill clinton in the middle of that statement, i think, amplifies that. it's not going far enough, for a lot of republicans right now. you can just look at social media tonight. the previous gop nominee, mitt romney just ripped to shreds what donald trump was caught on tape saying. people like john kasich, you know, the list goes on and on, republican senators who were up for re-election, the rnc chairman, reince priebus. there were some republicans like mark kirk, the embattled and endangered senator from illinois, republican, is saying that donald trump should be replaced as the nominee. jon huntsman, who ran for

president four years ago, is also saying donald trump should be replaced as the nominee. but with mike pence at top of the ticket. so it is very clear, at this hour, that donald trump's apology or whatever you want to call it, that statement, doesn't go near where he needs to go at this point. and john, keep in mind, this is a critical point in the campaign. this is two days, roughly to the minute, from this debate rematch with hillary clinton. this was supposed to be a moment for donald trump to redeem himself and right his campaign. and instead, the campaign is -- it may not be imploding at this point, but certainly, we are reaching critical mass. >> mike pence on the campaign trail, he has been asked about this already. how has he responded? >> mike pence has not responded. and there are some top republicans out there who have not responded. mike pence has not responded. paul ryan, the speaker of the house, has not said anything yet. mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader, has not said anything yet. there are reporters who are

trying to reach out to mike pence at one of these campaign stops where just a small pool of reporters goes in. his staffers prevented those reporters from asking a question. that video you just showed of mike pence on a rope line at a campaign event, he was asked the question there. he did not respond. and at one point during a speech this afternoon, john, mike pence said he was continuing to praise donald trump as somebody who tells it like it is, but was apparently unaware or just not ready to talk about what donald trump was caught saying in that video. john? >> all right. jim acosta for us, thanks so much. i want to get to cnn's joe johns with more on the reaction from capitol hill. joe, what are you hearing from republican sources on this? >> well, john, from hearing from sources across the board, in fact, first, with let's start with the clinton camp. they've often struggled over how much to weigh in ton firestorms created by trump, but sources have told cnn's jeff zeleny they're debating it. hillary clinton is planning to deal with it this weekend, of

course, in the debate, perhaps calling on top republicans to denounce their nominee. her reaction on twitter was very direct, but also minimalist, about an hour ago. she tweeted, "women have the power to stop trump," and she also included in that tweet a link for voter registration. she tweeted earlier, "this is horrific. we cannot allow this man to become president." clinton's running mate, tim kaine, tweeted, this kind of behavior makes me sick to my stomach. and also said at a campaign stop in las vegas, "i don't like to say the words that he's used in the past when he calls women pigs, dogs, and slobs, but this behavior is just outrageous." now, cathy mcmorris rodgers, the house of the gop conference, talking about republicans now, said in a statement obtained by cnn, "it's never appropriate to condone unwanted sexual advances against women. mr. trump must realize it has no

place in public or private conversation today or in the past." and jeb bush, who ran for president, of course, "as the grandfather of two precious girls, i find no apology that can excuse away donald trump's reprehensible comments degrading women." just a short while ago, mitt romney joined the conversation by tweeting, "hitting on married women? condoning assault? such vile degradations demean our wives and daughters and corrupt america's face to the world." now, these campaigns have been careful to not say too much after donald trump has gotten consumed in controversy, but the responses from a couple of high-profile republicans, i think, really speak volumes. and you've already referred to rnc chair reince priebus' comments, tweeting, "no woman should ever be described in terms -- or talked about in this matter." >> joe, stand by, with i think we just got a response from house speaker paul ryan. we've been waiting for this, because donald trump was due to appear with paul ryan tomorrow in wisconsin. this statement just in.

"i am sickened by what i heard today. women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. i hope mr. trump treats this situation with the respect it deserves. in the meantime, he is no longer attending tomorrow's event in wisconsin." wow. okay. that's big news right there. paul ryan condemning the comments from donald trump, saying he will not appear with donald trump tomorrow in wisconsin, an event that has been scheduled in that key swing state for some time. let's talk about this. joining us now, clinton supporter and democratic strategist, jonathan tessini, trump supporters, kayleigh mcenany. and with us, chief political analyst, gloria borger. i'll start with you with this news i just got in from paul ryan, to which i just responded,

wow. donald trump not appearing with paul ryan tomorrow now in wisconsin. this tells you a lot. >> it does. it seems to me like donald trump was disinvited to this event. it's very clear that paul ryan is following the lead set by his friend and colleague, reince priebus, the chairman of the republican national committee, who also condemned the video. and so did paul ryan, in the strongest terms. i think what this does is it gives every republican, and don't forget, these are the two ranking republicans in the congress, gives every republican permission to distance, separate, draw a divide, criticize donald trump. what they did not do is take that further step, and there are lots -- there are lots of republican chatter about this, and i've been e-mailing with a bunch of republican sources, because the democrats are going to push on this, which is, okay,

it's one thing to condemn donald trump and to disinvite him from your rally, et cetera, but, it's another thing to say, okay, i no longer believe he should be president of the united states. and this is what you're going to hear democrats -- i'm sure you'll hear hillary clinton talk about it, but i think what you're really going to hear it from is these democratic senate candidates and democratic house candidates, telling people that they ought to put their money where their mouth is. and if you condemn him so strongly, do you still support him for president of the united states? >> andre bower, donald trump supporter, we have yet to hear from you this evening. this is a big deal. when the house speaker, you know, the senior elected official in your own party, whom you were supposed to appear with tomorrow in wisconsin, all of a sudden, you are no longer appearing with them, that's a big deal. that's the sound of republicans putting distance between themselves and donald trump. how much trouble is he in right

now? >> it clearly creates a divide. it creates an uncomfortable situation. and it's not a healthy thing to happen 34 days out before an election, and two days away from a debate. i think he will move forward from this. it's definitely an obstacle. and all of us have said things that we wish we could take back. this was many years ago. i'm not excusing it in any way. and it was guy talk. and quite frankly, it should have never -- a tv station should have never been recording. and furthermore, shouldn't have released it. but where we are is now that it has been released, he has apologized. hopefully, he'll be able to move forward and get into debate mode -- >> guy talk is -- assault against women is not guy talk. saying "i'm going to grab your pussy" and assaulting women is not guy talk. that is a crime. and for you to sort of say, it's an obstacle, and not sit here

and say that donald trump donald trump must step down and not be president because he's a deranged individual is astonishing to me. and by the way, this isn't something new. let's go back and remember that donald trump not just -- didn't just use the words that jim johns recited that tim kaine talked about, fat, bimbo, pig, donald trump objectified his own daughter. i want every man, every father of a daughter to think about this. donald trump talked about his daughter, talked about her being hot, talked about her in sexual terms. this man is deranged. >> look, i understand -- >> he cannot be president of united states. not only does he not know how to talk about women, and he's willing to be abusive to women, let's talk about his racism. let's talk about his serial lying. we can -- forget about -- forget about -- forget about -- >> let him respond. andre? >> look, i respect that you're passionate -- >> it's not passion, it's about -- >> are you going to let me respo respond? i can't have a conversation.

what i'll tell you is that donald trump has said some offensive things. nobody argues that. hillary clinton has done things that have jeopardized american lives. there's a big difference between oc offending someone and doing things that cost lives and put americans at risk. >> i'm happy to talk about hillary clinton, but let's stick with donald trump right now. >> i know you want to -- >> this is happening tonight. let's let koreen talking about this. >> let's stick to what's going on right now -- >> well, of course we -- >> of course we have to do that! what we saw today is that donald trump is indeed a sexist, misogynistic pig, period! when you look at the definition of "deplorable," you're going to see a picture of donald trump. it is unbelievable -- it is unbelievable what we have to listen to and hear for the last several hours. i mean, i wouldn't want our sons or our daughters to see that. he is not fit to be president of the united states. he should not get anyone near the oval office. and to be quite honest, this is beyond partisan politics. the republicans really have to

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tonight to the donald trump tape. house speaker paul ryan just moments ago said that trump will not attend an event with him in wisconsin tomorrow. and during the break, senator john mccain weighed in with this. he said, "there are no excuses for donald trump's offensive and demeaning comments. no woman should ever be victimized by this kind of inappropriate behavior. he alone bears the burden of his conduct and alone should suffer the consequences." dana bash has been breaking news on this story all evening long. she joins us once again. dana, you got the paul ryan statement among others things. what's the latest you're hearing right now? >> well, you talked about the paul ryan statement being very, very direct, and first and foremost, disinviting donald trump from a big wisconsin republican unity event that trump was scheduled to be attending tomorrow afternoon. that's no longer happening. but he also -- paul ryan, said that he hopes that mr. trump treats the situation with the seriousness that it deserves and

that he demonstrates that he has great respect for women. what it doesn't say in there is whether or not he's still going to support donald trump as his nominee for president. and i'm just going back and forth with some republicans who are strategists for republican candidates, saying that they understand that the very next question is going to be, okay, mr. speaker, does that mean that you do or you don't support donald trump? and that is going to be a question that is asked down the line of republicans, obviously, in the house, everybody's running for re-election, but the peep who are going to have the toughest questions to them are those in the senate and elsewhere, who are in tough re-election campaigns. so that's the next question. i have to say that i texted somebody with speaker ryan, asking that question. does this mean he will still support donald trump or not? and the response was, we have no further comment for tonight. >> that's not a "yes," that's not a "no," that's a "no further

comment for tonight," which is interesting. but he didn't say anything in that statement. john mccain didn't say he would no longer support donald trump. nobody has officially broken with donald trump over this. paul ryan did say that he needs to come out and say more on this. what are you hearing about that? >> they clearly understand that inside trump tower, as we've been reporting. they are huddled there in crisis mode, trying to figure out what to say. my sense is that it's a question at this point of what he's going to say, not whether he's going to say something. this statement from paul ryan, as you said, puts pressure on donald trump to say something, but it's probably likely that he knows that donald trump is expected to do so. we don't have firm confirmation that he will, but every indication is that he's not going to go to bed tonight without trying to assuage the voters, first and foremost, but also republicans, who as i'm talking to tonight, really at

the -- to quote one -- breaking point when it comes to donald trump with all of this. >> all right. dana bash, great reporting. thanks so much. back now with our panel. kayleigh mcenany, if we can, if we can put that picture up of trump tower. reporters are now gathered outside trump tower. i saw phil mattingly on the right-hand side of your screen right there. he's waiting, because i think we all think that donald trump needs to say something and needs to say it soon. i mean, what, it's 9:25, do you know where your candidate is? if he doesn't speak tonight, there may not be a tomorrow. >> look, he said something wrong. it was more than a decade ago, but it was wrong, plain and simple. and i think when your feet are held to the fire, we learn a lot about people. and if he comes out and is humble and apologizes and says he's sorry and is heartfelt about it, i think that's a big moment for him. i think hillary clinton's feet were held to the fire over her e-mails. she was pushed to say it was a mistake. then she proceeded to blame it on pal, we know with the fbi,

she blamed it on her aides. this is donald trump's e-mail moment. this is the moment where he does what hillary clinton does, in that statement, he basically did what she did. this was a mistake if you were offended by it. he sticks with that, the hillary clinton apology, or he's a bigger person than hillary clinton, and he comes out and says, i was wrong and i'm sorry for it. there's nothing to excuse that. >> karine, good politics tonight would be to come out and humble himself, as kayleigh's saying. good politics would be to come out and say you're sorry, really sorry, and say it for an hour, to the press associated there. >> here's the thing, john. he's not capable. this is not the first time that he has said something that has been so, you know, reps reprehensible before. he's called women pigs. he's called women fat. he body shamed miss universe just last week and doubled down, tripled down on that. he called mexicans "rapists" and "criminals," this is who donald trump is. and he is just not capable. i would -- i can't imagine that he's going to do that at all, because every time he tries to apologize or makes an attempt to

apologize, it's not an apology, like we saw just a couple of hours ago. >> let me add one more thing, which is, the question to the republican party is, we all know this about donald trump. this is no secret. so the question to the republican party, and to the voters is, why has the republican party sat by quietly, even though on the record donald trump said the things that she mentioned, in addition to i want to go back to what i said before, which to me is astonishing and deranged, he looked at his daughter, talked about how she's hot, objectified her. now, i want to, again, ask, any man out there who has a daughter or a sister or some relative, think about that for a second. does it ever cross your mind to think about your daughter or a woman you know as a sexual object? >> that's so unfair. >> no, it is -- >> ivanka trump -- >> no, no, it exactly is -- >> jonathan, that's low. >> no, it's not -- >> let kayleigh talk.

>> that's going really low. ivanka trump loves her father. she stood on that stage and vouched for him. she gave the address right before he came on the stage to have the biggest moment of her -- his life, excuse me. and to cast doubt and aspersions on his relationship with his daughter, that's a bridge too far, it really is. >> the fact that you justify that is shocking to me. i'll just leave it to any man looking at that has a daughter. would you think of your daughter in those terms? >> let's keep it on tonight, if we can, andre. you know, i know you've got a lot of friends all over the country, in south carolina, the republican party in south carolina right now, i've got to believe there are a lot of people, you know, tweeting you or texting you or calling you and saying, hey, you know, lieutenant governor, why should we stick by our candidate right now? how do you explain this tape that came to light? how do you say, you know what, look past it? >> i don't explain it, i don't justify it, and i hope that donald trump will take this as a moment to shine and show people what he really has. and i hope he digs down deep and

explains it in a way that people go, you know, we all do dumb things and things we regret. it gives him an opportunity to really shine. but, again, we have an opportunity to make a decision between to candidates in this race. and we have one that has a business background, that has proven himself in the business world and can turn washington upsidedown. and the reason why i supported donald trump in a primary with so many qualified individuals is i was fed up with the status quo in washington. and that is what we will get with the other person in this race. >> gloria, i want to -- hang on, jonathan. i want to go to gloria borger now, our chief analyst. the debate is 48 hours from now. 48 hours from now, gloria, you're going to be in st. louis, you know, watching this debate. they're going to be onstage, the candidates are. this is going to be part of that night. donald trump, between now and then, is going to have to come up with some kind of explanation. >> well, and you bet he will. and i just want to point out

that the trump campaign just released a statement about the paul ryan event tomorrow, which we've reported, he was disinvited from. he said, governor mike pence will be representing me tomorrow in wisconsin. and then he said, i will be spending the day in new york, in debate prep, with rnc chairman reince priebus, governor chris christie, and senator jeff sessions. and then flying to st. louis on sunday for the second presidential debate. so, now, donald trump is preparing for this town hall, because he understands the stakes, because they've just grown exponentially this evening. and one thing i want to add to the conversation you were having before is that the difference in the conversation we're having tonight about this video and the other conversations we have had about alicia machado and judge curiel, et cetera, et cetera, is that this seems to be a tipping

point, because republicans are asking other republicans about how they can condemn donald trump, so ardentally for this, while still endorsing him. and john weaver, who ran governor kasich campaign, if you recall, tweeted this evening, that condemning trump's comments while still endorsing and supporting him is outrageous. so this will continue to be a fault line in the republican party and you're going to feel this push from the democrats, who want people to declare or un-declare for donald trump. and within the republican party, there's just an awful lot of consternation about, about what they do. not only for this election, but i just had somebody who was e-mailing me about this and said, let's get beyond this election. what does this mean for the republican party and the coalition, which includes women,

of course, in the future, post donald trump should he lose? >> but they did get him to do debate prep, which is a big thing for a lot of republicans. >> it's a heck of a way to get him to do debate prep. >> all right, gloria, stand by. everyone, stand by. more with the panel ahead. the trump campaign facing a full-blown crisis tonight just 48 hours from the second presidential debate in st. louis. anderson cooper will be moderating that town hall along with martha raddatz of abc news. i'll be there in the afternoon from 2:00 to 4:00 and there'll be some people on after. all right, coming up next for us, the latest on hurricane matthew, where it's heading and the flooding and the power outages it has left in his path. . introducing new at&t plans with no data overage charges. ♪ ♪

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hurricane matthew has lost some of its wind speed, but there are parts of the southeast coast right the now that are nowhere near out of the woods yet. the storm is now blamed for four deaths in florida, more than a million people have been left without power, and forecasters are now predicting storm surges, big storm surges in georgia and south carolina. we're talking as high as 9 feet. then there is the rain, up to 15 inches in some areas. the word from officials throughout the southeast, be

careful. i want to check in now with cnn's brian todd in charleston, south carolina, where this storm is headed. brian, officials are expecting life threatening conditions there as soon as tonight. what's the situation now? >> reporter: well, john, we've been getting pummeled with rain for a few hours now, but right now, the wind is starting to become an issue, because as the storm gets closer and the eyewall gets closer to here, that's what we're looking at. this is warren street here in charleston, south carolina, a typical street. when the wind gets higher in the coming hours, there's going to be a lot of debris flying off trees and rooftops in the coming hours. you mentioned the tides and the life-threatening tides. we were told by the national weather service a short time ago that the tide around charleston -- [ inaudible ] >> all right, we're losing brian todd there, obviously, the water and the wind wreaking havoc with our equipment, but what brian

was getting to is that the storm surge there is a real problem, that is the lowcountry, south carolina, charleston, there are counties that are flat-out below sea level and there is concern they could be inundated with water. stephanie elam is in another vulnerable peace of ground. she joins us now from savannah, georgia. stephanie, how are conditions where you are right now and also some of the outer islands near savannah? >> reporter: right, john, well, where we are right now, we are right on historic river street here in savannah, georgia. and i just checked back at the savannah river right now, and i can still see it is below the river walk. it has not come up over that area at this time, but as you were mentioning out on tybee island, they were very concerned about that area. they told people they had to get out earlier today and if they didn't, they were going to be left on their own. there are no first responders on those areas that are closer to the ocean. but out here on the river, you're starting to see the effects. the bands coming in much stronger now.

the wind and rain picking up. here they're expecting the storm surge could be well over 6 feet in this area. so that is a cause for concern. i spoke to one man who owns a restaurant right here just downriver street, and he and his wife, they're battening down the hatches inside their restaurant. they said the building was built in 1790 and that it has weathered many a storm and they feel it's the safest place to be, safer than their own home, and they don't expect that even though they're right across the street from the riverwalk, from the water, basically, they don't expect it to come up and actually touch their building. they feel like this is the safest place for them to be right now. but definitely in the last hour or so, the winds and rain really picking up. we can see that they've gone out of their way to tell people to get out of this area. they shut down the bridge here at noon. and this is why. you can see these winds picking up, they don't want people out here. at this point, just stay inside, john. >> stephanie elam in savannah, georgia, stay safe, stephanie. thanks so much. let's the latest now on where hurricane matthew is and where it's heading.

meteorologist tom seder joins us from the cnn weather center. what's the latest, tom? >> it is a category 2 storm, john, but i wouldn't pay any attention to that at all. for days and days it was an category 4, so all of that energy and upwelling is still with it. and all that water has to go somewhere and it's plowing northward. the forward momentum could still give us a landfall. as expected yesterday, tornado watch now in effect, as we've already had a few. the worst is over for jacksonville, now that the winds are coming from in the west, we'll see all of that water, which was pushed up into st. john's river start to get pushed back out toward the shoreline, which is good news. but it's been really bad now, for parts of georgia, south carolina, and north carolina, where it will get worse as probably the closest point to south carolina will be this evening, maybe charleston by 8:00 in the morning. but the storm has been all about water. it's going to squeeze out much more rainfall, easily widespread, 10 to 13 inches of rain. and the storm surge, i think, is going to get even worse than it was in st. augustine and

jacksonville. already we're seeing numbers in savannah that are over 5 1/2 feet. >> early on, we've been looking at this model, and there many models that had this storm circling around, maybe hitting florida a second time. does it still show that? >> this model here has been spot-on, from its first landfall in haiti in western cuba, and it still wants to hug the coast, getting pretty close to charleston. but these computer models we've talked about, all in pretty good agreement along the coast. there's still a good 8 out of 14 that want to bring it back around. however, there's a big change in the last 24 hours. it's undergoing sheer, which means upper level winds are trying to break it apart right now. by the time it gets off the coast, this is only a two-day event right now. tomorrow, by sunday afternoon, it's off the outer banks, not really affecting them. but i think by that time, john, it's not going to have enough energy to really gather anymore strength. but it is going to be something that it will be worth watching. >> tom seder, thanks so much. appreciate it. up next, we're going to hear from "the washington post"

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the breaking news tonight, the trump campaign in full crisis mode after the release of a tape of donald trump boasting that he could grope women's genitals and get away with it because he's a star. just moments ago, trump acknowledged that he will not campaign tomorrow with house speaker paul ryan, a source told cnn that he wasn't invited anymore. this is the statement from the trump campaign. governor mike pence will be respecting -- representing me tomorrow in wisconsin. i will be spending the day in new york in debate prep with rnc chair, reince priebus, chris christie, and jeff sessions and flying to st. louis on sunday for the second presidential debate. in the meantime, clinton's democratic running mate, tim kaine, is also running in. >> now we got the news out about these sick to your stomach kind of things that he said about women, which is just more wood on that bonfire, because this thing about women is just a very persistent theme with him. he's clearly got a problem in that way, that he can't look at a woman and see a woman as an

equal. that's just -- that's just not in his dna. >> this all began earlier today when "the washington post" david farenthold published the tale, the tale of the tape. we spoke this evening. so, david, i know you're not going to disclose your source on this, but whoever gave this to you or alerted you to it obviously knew they had something big on their hands. can you give us anymore details on this? >> i really can't. i can't say much of anything about how we got ahold of this. >> but when you heard it the first time, what was your reaction? >> just that it was shocking. this is a voice of donald trump that you've heard now for a coup of years solid, a voice you've gotten used to hearing in a political context, and here he was discussing this stuff in a pretty lewd and pretty outrageous manner. i was really surprised. >> he calls this locker room banter. but the thing is, you know, he's 56 years old and it's not just crass language, it's predatory. he says, you know, when you're a star, they let you do -- you can do anything, you can grab them by the -- and then he goes on.

>> that's right. i mean, it's not just, hey, look at that woman, isn't she hot? it's sort of -- it goes beyond that, to talk about sort of his -- what he does. he's describing not what he'd like to do, but what he has done, apparently, to women. and describing how sort of because he's a star, he can kiss them if he wants to and he can grope them. that's what makes this more interesting and more shocking. it's not just like, look at this woman, she's a 10, it's, this is what i've done to women in the past and will do again. >> david fahrenthold, a busy night for him. and for brian stelter, who's been working his sources. he joins me now. brian, this is not new material. this is from "access hollywood" back in 2005. why did the tape leak today and how did "the post" end up with it? >> the "access hollywood" producers realized they had this tape in the archives back on monday. and that was because of an associated press story on monday morning, interviews with 20 ex-employees of "the apprentice," trump's old reality tv show. those employees talked about trump's sexist and lewd remarks

over the year. the big difference, john, these were not aidtapes or videotapes. these were accounts from former employees talking about trump's behavior. the big difference today was the tape. on monday, "access hollywood" found the tape. earlier this week they talked about putting a story together. by this morning, they were ready to broadcast, but not before the debate. the question is, who leaked this tape to david at "the washington post"? and that we don't know. >> they sat on it for four days, on their own. >> that's right. at least. >> they say they were ready to broadcast it -- >> and "access hollywood" owned by nbc or associated with nbc? >> that's right, it's owned by nbc. this is really an nbc story. "the apprentice" was on nbc with trump. billy bush is working for nbc, and now billy bush, who was the host for "access hollywood," is one of the hosts on the "today" show. >> so as "access hollywood" or anyone identified the woman he was speaking about on the tape. >> one of the women he was speaking about was nancy o'dell, she was a cohost of "access hollywood," she's now a cohost of "entertainment tonight" on cbs. odell has not commented tonight on this story, but you can

imagine her producers are. one of her producers chiming in on twitter saying she's a lovely family-focused person that's horrified by this kind of comments. >> the other person on the tape with donald trump is billy bush, the cousin of george w. bush and jueb bush, who put out an apology, obviously, i'm embarrassed and ashamed, it's no excuse, but this happened 11 years ago, i acted foolishly, and playing along, i'm very sorry. what is the future for billy bush? >> i'm told at the moment, billy bush would remain a cohost for the "today" show, but i would find it very unlikely seeing him there monday morning after this debate. very curious. the first thing we learned on television if you're wearing a mike, the mike is always hot. donald trump knew that back in 2005. so did billy bush. there were people around them, when they were having this ridiculous sexual banter. it is amazing to me that these two men were willing to be caught on camera, on tape, talking about this way. it's also amazing it didn't surface. >> it's also amazing the last 16

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tonight, tomorrow morning? unknown. will there be more reaction? almost certainly. back now with the panel. if we can take off our partisan hats and put on our political professional hats, i don't understand why donald trump hasn't come out, walked out of trump tower and said anything loud to the collective press core. jonathan, you first, doesn't he need do that tonight? >> whether he does it or not -- >> i said take off your partisan hat. >> i'm talking about politically, most women out there and most young people and most voters have made the decision donald trump is not fit to be president of the united states and this is a core reason. i do want to go back to what gloria borger said so we don't forget that point. she's absolutely right. she said to this it's not about donald trump. it's an extesencia, l question, whether they can reach out to women, because donald trump can

destroy this party and may destroy this party for ten, 20 years if he continues to lead the party and do this kind of stuff. >> gloria, if your name gets mentioned you get a 30-second rebuttal. >> i agree with mize. i think this is a larger point for the republican party, but it's kind of a teachable moment for america here because what some people see is just some crude, locker room talk and chatter, is really something so much more to a lot of women out there who hear these words and think of it as you know predatory and i think that beyond the presidential election, this is a conversation about how you hear this tape, and what you takeaway from it as a person when you -- when you listen to this kind of language. is it banter?

or is it something much more to somebody talking about sexual assault? you know, groping somebody. >> andre? >> i would say this, where was the out rage when bill clinton was a predator on a very young, naive -- you didn't see the outrage on these talk shows. >> he was not an outrage. >> i never saw the out ranrage saying how will the democratic party -- >> it doesn't matter. >> joe lieberman, who is not one of my favorite people, they said on the senate floor and said i'm disgusted by this. bill clinton went through impeachment. >> we're not talking about bill clinton. bill clinton is not on the b ballot. >> and kailey, first to you here, again, can donald trump let this linger until sunday night? >> he needs to respond and apologize for it. to andre's point we're weren't talking about whether this was the end of the democratic party,

when bill clinton committed actions with a young girl, whose life was forever ruined in the oval office of the white house. i agree there's double standard. he needs to apologize and he needs to come out before sunday. >> there's only one clinton on the ballot in november, and her name is not bill clinton, right? and so here the thing. in the last 24 hours, here's the reali reality. in the last 24 hours there's only been one presidential candidate that has been asking or advocating we saw on tape for women to be sexual assaulted. there's only been one presidential candidate in the last 24 hours that has made raci racist comments about central park five and that's the reality of where we are today. he has no moral ground to stand on. what he has done in the last 24 hours is indeed disgusting and deplorab deplorable. >> thank you so much. with one eye on that, with one eye on trump tower, we'll be right back.

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quick reminder, everything that has happened tonight is happening less than two days before theal debate. anderson moderates along with martha rad a littl martha raddatz. krn tonight with don lemon starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> our breaking news, the monster political storm rocking donald trump's campaign. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lem lemon. for a candidate struggling with female voters, a candidate whose second debate against hillary clinton is in just two days. the news could hardly be worse. donald trump caught on tape bragging about being able to forcibly grope women because he's, quote, a star. his language, raw, and obscene, just imagine anybody much less a presidential candidate talking this way about your mother, your