i'm michael smerconish coming to you from the keystone state of pennsylvania. this is a remarkable day and in any other cycle, you'd surely be saying, he's done. here's a live picture of trump tower an hour ago. donald trump emerge to chants of "usa, usa." we've got a month until election day. the huge town hall debate is

tomorrow night right here on cnn with anderson cooper. would anyone have predicted a candidate's main campaign promise would be, i will never drop out of the race. while his own running mate says, he's offended by the candidate's remarks. at issue, appalling 2005 video showing trump embracing sexual assault. the reporter who broke this story, david faronholt, is here. trump issued a rare and hedged apology. >> i've said some foolish things, but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed and intimidated his victim. >> but all day long, a lot of his big name supporters are abandoning ship. also on this program, when this pennsylvania teen asked hillary clinton about trump's treatment of women, was it orchestrated by the clinton campaign?

she's here for her first interview anywhere. polls are already trending hillary's way. could she clinch it tomorrow? i'll speak to two debate pros or might trump's rescue come to wikileaks finally releasing transcripts to wall street banks. how damaging might they be? but first, an unprecedented day in political history as an avalanche of republican leaders disown their presidential candidate just one month before the election and one day before a major town hall debate. trump's own vp candidate mike pence issued a statement condemning him. the head of the rnc issued the following statement. quote, no woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner ever. others have been joining the gop ground swell against him. his former gop rival carly fiorina called on him to quit,

mike lee of utah, others have withdrawn their endorsement like senators john mccain and kelly ayotte and john is not and even arnold schwarzenegger and said, it's not only acceptable to choose your country over your party, it is your duty. and here's why. friday afternoon at 4:00 p.m., "the washington post" broke this story who's here with me in a couple of moments. it exposed a previously unreleased video from september of 2005, outtakes from a visit trump made to a soap opera with the show "access hollywood." he's wearing a mike and then chatting with co-host and then george w. bush cousin, billy bush. he issued a written apology and then at midnight, another on

video. true to form, both made excuses and cast aspersions on bill clinton suggesting he'll bring up his dalliances. some describers seek to dismiss what donald trump said on tape as, quote, locker room talk, overlooking he was not 18 and in high school but 59 with a new wife, pregnant at the time. but even trump critics are failing to note what to me, as a lawyer, is of real significance. what he said would be admissible evidence in a variety of legal contexts. as his state of mind, as evidence of his past behavior, and as his character. what makes this stand out from all of his prior profanity, he actually admits predatory sexual conduct, if it had come out of the mouth of, say, bill cosby,

would be used in the criminal trial against him. whether the gop can still dump trump a month from election say d day when his name cannot be removed from the ballots. has reince priebus lost control of the gop? he's not taken any other action besides criticizing donald trump. gop pennsylvania congressman charlie dents said if he can't get trump out of the race, priebus himself must resign. on the phone is pennsylvania congressman charlie dent. are you here? >> i'm here, if you can hear me. >> so talk me about what motivated you to release your statement today and what is it you're asking to take place? >> well, first, look, i simply cannot defend the indefensible. and i must unequivocally condemn the statements.

it's sad we're at this point but that's where we are. i've long had reservations and problems with nominees because of his, matter of the tone, policy, temperament, at times, fitness, but this is just a reminder that he shouldn't be our nominee. do i think donald trump should be stepped aside? yes. will he? no. for that reason, i think it's on the republican national convention to take action to salvage what's left of this election cycle. willing to do that, unable to do that, we need someone in charge who will. that's all i'm saying. and somebody has to take responsibility and some level of accountability as well for us to where we are. the speaker of the house and majority leader of the senate have their priorities which is to protect the majorities, that's where they must be

focused. somebody must deal with the issue of the top of the ticket and fast. >> you've taken it a step further than others. many are condemning what trump has said from within your party and i just listed a name, a whole list of them and should make reference to pat toomey, who too condemned trump. you're a step further and say, chairman priebus, if you can't dictate the outcome of this, you yourself need to step aside. >> well, like i said, somebody needs to take responsibility and accept some level of accountability. i have not been against the chairman. i respect him, but at the same time, someone must be looking out for the best interest, not only of the country but of the party at this point too. the party. somebody has to take that view and see what's in the best interest as a whole. a number of my colleagues think the nominee should withdraw and i'm in that category too, but i don't think he will. so somebody has to take some

action here to try to salvage what's left of the cycle. you know, someone other than the republican national committee can do this? tell me who it is and id like to speak with them. that's where we are right now. very concerned. there has to be some level of accountability because this is an unacceptable situation. >> final question. do the rules allow chairman priebus to do something? because i keep hearing that donald trump would have to voluntarily resign in order to be replaced. is your understanding any different than what i've just articulated? >> i can't speak to the rules. ran d i didn't expect to be having these conversations today because a lot of us are trying to enjoy some football today. and we've all been interrupted because of these actions of, these statements. i'm not clear yet what the rules

will allow but somebody needs to get work on this quickly. a replacement, maybe talking about mike pence, of course, he would be acceptable. i'm a john kasich guy personally, i think he would be terrific and this is a winnable race and pence said we need to support the nominee because of the supreme court. i said, he's made himself unelectable, how does that help the supreme court? the top of the ticket to salvage this election and possibly win this thing, so we can try to protect the supreme court. >> have you heard back from chairman priebus in response to your call that he himself needs to step aside if he can't rein this in? >> no, i haven't. i just want somebody to take leadership and accept responsibility for what's going on. they're pointing fingers saying i have no control over this and every man for himself right now

in terms of dealing with this situation. there's a lot of people out there up for election this year and very vulnerable situations but it's not just about elections but what's important for our country and as always, our party but we must do what's right here and somebody needs to step up and i would like to see the chairman do that. i have respect for him. i think he could. but inaction at this moment is not an option. >> congressman charlie dent, thank you so much for allowing us to intrude on your saturday evening. >> thank you. joining me, three cnn colleagues who have a tough job on their hands. all defenders, at least up until now, of donald trump. jeffrey, kaley, and jeff, first of all, a preliminary question, are any of you getting off the trump train right now? speak now or forever hold your

peace. >> never. >> sounds like nobody. jeffr jeffrey, what would it have to take for you to get off? i mean, i think you're the embodiment about what he said about getting out on fifth avenue and shoot somebody. is there anything donald trump could do to cause you to say, i'm out of heere? >> no. we're 30 days out from this election, mikel. what he said was terrible. no question. but bill clinton's name has been raised here and there's a point not being made. when bill clinton got into all of his problems and the world pounced on him, not only were every democrat out there defending him and let's remember, there were accusations of rape, groping in the oval office, et cetera. his popularity went up. and republicans who went after him got clobbered. now, i would respectfully suggest that people need to be very careful here. you saw that reception with donald trump coming out of trump tower today.

i think we could get a lot of blowback here because it's becoming increasingly an issue of the elites and the political class versus average working americans. and those folks are not happy in the first place. 70% of the country thinks the country is going in the wrong direction and they'll look at this exactly as the kind of thing that the elites would do to get him out of the race because they don't like him. and your interview with congressman dent just underlines that point. >> kaley, are you of the same opinion that there's nothing he can do that would cause kaley mcenany to change course? >> what could it be beyond saying grab her body? >> exactly. i'll defer to jeffrey on that. but what he said was wrong, michael. there's no doubt about it. no one is defending what he said. but let's be clear.

you could tell a lot about someone when they go through times of fire, hard times. what i learned about donald trump was he issued an apology. i don't think the one via writing was enough but came out on camera and verbally gave an apology. you know who could learn a lot from that? that was bill clinton denying his affair with monica lewinsky. hillary clinton saying i made a mistake, but it was colin powell's fault, but my aide's fault. he rose to the occasion, he owned it, he accepted responsibility and moving on. he needs to have a heartfelt moment during this town hall tomorrow to connect with the american people and does it one more time, but he owned it, the clintons could learn from that. >> but owning it in his case was issuing in a statement, initially, that said to the extent, i've offended anybody, i apologize and frankly, it was much more about himself. to the extent he's apologized to

the woman to whom he was referring, i still had not heard that. >> he said i am going to be a better man tomorrow. he said, i regret many things in my life. and this is one of them. it was written in the statement. >> michael, also. >> how about an apology that says, i want to apologize, wait, gang, how about an apology that said i'd like to apologize to the married woman about whom i spoke in such lewd terms? >> he should apologize to everybody. and i think if that hasn't been encompassed in the previous, he should make another blanket apology to do that but the framing of the question. what would it take for you not to support trump? it's rare, you notice the bias in that question. what would it take for you not to support clinton? there's bias there and more importantly, you're missing, donald trump never ran on this concept of being a moral virtue. we're not electing a pope. we're electing a president.

the american people know how donald trump can sometimes behave which can sometimes be crass. they knew that back in august a year and a half ago. but after they voted over a yearlong process, 14 million americans said, yes. for you to consistently bring people on and say, he should be off the ticket is disenfranchising the people who voted for him and dangerous to do that. >> you know what this reminds me of is the checker situation in 1952. >> there are four of us. hang on. i want to pursue this with andy. andy, the feelty of trump supporters is stunning. nothing he can say or do. >> okay. it's not. according to your world view, our loyalty makes him strange but not just to donald trump but the movement of which 14 million people said yes to. it's not fuelty. we want smaller government and

lower taxes, destroy isis. that's on the ticket. this isn't like the samurai to commit harry carey. >> if he decides to quit, would you support that decision? each of the three of you? >> absolutely not. no. i want him to stay and fight. the american people want him to fight. >> crazy hypothetical. might as well ask if clinton is going to quit. he was voted in to be the nominee, he's going to run and see what happens. the voters will decide. let them decide. >> andy, jeffrey, kaley, thank you. i appreciate that. >> thank you. this incredible story as well as many terrific stories exposing the trump foundation. david is here and there's a debate tomorrow night. how does he possibly prepare? how does trump possibly prepare

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today, the trump campaign in a tailspin after "the washington post" story details the 2005 video in which gop candidate donald trump bragged about groping and hitting on married women in vulgar terms. ironically, the "post" reporter, david faronholt, spent months with trump's foundation and taxes and yet this is the story that might cut the deepest. david fahrenthold joins us now. what stunned you?

>> first, the language. this is a guy. we're familiar with his voice. the way he's acted on television but never heard him use this kind of language and the fact he's not just describing the attractiveness of a woman and leering at a woman, he's describing his own behavior. he's saying, i did this and i'll do this again. this is what i do when i meet beautiful women. that's what surprised me the most. >> when you contacted the trump campaign for comment and reveal to them what you now had, were they blind sighted by it or knew this or something like this was coming? >> what i originally did was send them a transcript, not the whole video. we transcribed the relevant and they said, it doesn't sound like it. and basically conceding it was him and with trump saying it was locker room talk. >> do you think this now puts pressure on nbc for the release of whatever outtakes might exist

relative to "the apprentice"? >> it's not nbc's to give. i learned a lot about hollywood and all the footage belongs with the production company, mark burnett, the famous producer of "the apprentice," his company and his footage. if anyone would release it, it has to be him. i don't think nbc even owns it. >> am i right in saying that nbc was aware of what they had on their hands but you outhustled them and able to beat them to the punch? our own brian stelter said they were going to run a story but not until money but you forced their hand. >> yes. my contact with them. i called them to let them know i had it from billy bush and "access hollywood" and heard billy bush issued a statement but nothing on the record from nbc until after the story had published. >> what shocks me most about this revelation is the very end. i want to show the footage of the way this ends. and what i'm about to point out

doesn't even involve profanity. roll the tape so i can show it to david. >> here it goes. i'll leave you here, my microphone. oh, you're finished? >> i'll do our show. >> you want to reset, okay. >> here's my point, david. he knew he was wearing a microphone. presumably, he didn't know it was hot but he knew he had that microphone on his lapel. what do you make of that? >> they had miked him before they arrived on the bus. maybe he didn't know it was hot or thought no one would care because he was at that point, just a famous guy on television and not a presidential candidate. i don't think it was in any way a secret to donald trump his words might be recorded. >> some are suiting up in their usual partisan jerseys. bill o'riley on fox news tried to take down your reporting and the "washington post." i want to roll it and give you the chance to respond. here it is. >> it's worth noting "the

washington post" reporter, david, wrote this line in his article, quote. the tape appears at a time when trump, the republican presidential nominee has sought to make a campaign issue out of his opponent's marriage. trump has criticized former president bill clinton for past infidelity and criticized opponent hillary clinton as her husband's enabler. what all of them missed is most of the comments came after he was branded a woman hater by his opponent. also, trump refrained from mentioning the marriage in the last debate. now, it seems to me that any fair-minded news operation would have included the two facts in the article. >> i can't even ask this with a straight face. why did you report his woman-hating comments all came before he was a candidate? >> i guess i was interested in that paragraph talking about what trump has said lately, since the first presidential

debate. as bill said, he didn't mention anything about clinton's marriage or much during the debate but since then, he's made a big deal of how he could have and did not and maybe planned to bring it up later. the role of hillary clinton's marriage in this campaign has really been elevated by donald trump and especially in the last couple of weeks after that first debate. so to me, that seemed the relevant context here. >> final question for david, you have performed all of this laborious investigative reporting pertaining to taxes and the foundation. i know it consumes your time and i'm not dismissing the am ount f effort in this story but this versus everything you've written thus far and think, what? >> one builds on the other. i spent a lot of time writing about his charitable giving, lack thereof. that brought more attention to the post and the more visibility i have, the more people come to me with things. so one story builds on the

other. i don't think you could have had it without the stories that had come before. >> thank you so much for being here. appreciate your time. >> thank you. how will this play in tomorrow night's debate? might his strategy be to establish parity between his words and the wikileaks hillary speeches? here's a tweet from one of you. let's see. smerconish, as a news person, you and cnn have an obligation to discuss hillary's deleted e-mails. hey, i'm the one who interviewed peter schweitzer. ♪ ♪ ♪ (whispers rocket)

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apology last night issued was significant for many reasons. not the least of which was the way it closed. here's what trump said. >> i've said some foolish things but there's a big difference between the words and actions of other people. bill clinton has actually abused women and hillary has bullied, attacked, shamed, and intimidated his victims. we will discuss this more in the coming days. see you at the debate on sunday. >> that sounds like he intends to defend his own misconduct by discussing bill. is that a winning debate strategy or will it backfire? two stellar debate experts. john don van for intelligence u.s. debates and todd graham at southern illinois university. his teams have won five national championships and advanced to the final four nine consecutive years and he's been recognizing three times as the national debate coach of the year.

john don van, a preliminary question. this has to be confronted at the start of this debate tomorrow night. wouldn't you agree? they don't have opening statements but if you were moderating like you do in intelligence square, wouldn't you deal with it initially? >> i think it's absolutely top of mind. i think, in fact, probably it's possible that more people will watch this debate even than the first one which would be unprecedented and no way that either anderson cooper or martha radditz is not able to put it to donald trump but the question to hillary clinton. >> todd, donald trump suggested at the end of the videotape apology he's going there. is that a wise strategy? >> that's a terrible debate strategy. this is something that could only paint hillary clinton in a more positive and empathetic light. hillary clinton doesn't get a lot of empathy from people but if donald trump thinks that his latest troubles should be painted toward hillary clinton in some way, i think that's a horrible mistake. he'll be sealing his own fate.

>> but john, you know, to his stalwarts, they love the argument that she is an enabler, she was dismissive or worse of the women bill had relationships with. i think he's being encouraged to play that card, been threatening that for a long time. >> but that doesn't take into account what will happen on sunday night. this is the town hall format of debate, interestingly enough, initiated at the request of bill clinton back in 1992. this is a debate where members of the public, undecided voters are on the stage asking questions of the candidates. it's not really a debate, but interviewing the questions one after the other. and we're going to see their facesi unlike the other debate and the regular citizens undecided are not there to provoke an argument, a soap opera kind of argument about marital infidelities but serious concerns. we can see the questions they're lining up to ask, things like, what happens to social security?

and if donald trump comes out wanting to use this opportunity to sort of soil the conversation with the discussion of marital infidelity, i don't think that's going to work with this particular group of voters and i think we'll see it on their faces and it will hurt donald trump. >> so todd, you think it's a mistake if he is to play, i'll call it the bill card. how about the wikileaks release? as per the wicks leex information, she delivered to speeches to wall street including her embracing some concept of open borders in the future. >> sure, but you don't bring them up at the same time. donald trump has a problem with false equivalency. so he shouldn't say, why don't you ask about this? if the topic of his discussions and what he's talked about in the last day, that comes up, apologize and move on. but later in the debate when other topics come up, yes, he should talk. one of his mainstays is to talk about free trade, another

mainstay is terrorism and how our borders are too open. all is fair game with what just came out on wikileaks but you have to do it one thing at a time. he can't try to mesh those two ideas together. >> yours is oxford style debating and what i love about it is you vote at the outset of the debate and then you vote again when the debate has ended and the key here to declaring victory is, who changed the most minds? here's my question. are any minds up to be changed tomorrow night? >> the minds of the 40 people on stage that are selected by the gallup organization because they are undecided. and again, i want to say, those people are brave to be put in this situation. they are nervous. they are working on their questions. they're wondering if they'll be called on. and more importantly, they're coming within the past with questions like how do i know you'll keep promises or will my social security still be there or not? these are really looking for help in making up their minds so they are there to be persuaded and going to be listening and by

proxy, perhaps people out there who will be listening by the tens of millions may also be persuaded. i think tomorrow night may be, again, i'll not call it a debate. it's an interview. it's the most important interview in the careers of either of these candidates. >> hey, todd, final question. when you remove that podium, you're exposing the candidates. speak to the dynamic of not being able to shield yourself. >> let me talk about the power of momentum. people at home. if hillary clinton wins this debate given how momentum is going because i coach debates all the time and momentum happens in debates. i think there could be even more voters swayed because if he loses two badly, no way he'll get as many independent votes as he needs. in this debate, you have to practice standing up and moving around just like you would in the real debate. this is almost like a theater in the round and if you haven't practiced it, you end up looking

very awkward. you have moments like al gore when he tried to man up against w. and didn't work out and mccain when he wandered around and spun around like he was looking for a missing toddler. you honestly have to practice this. you can't expect you'll be good at it. >> you say it yourself, i'm john don van. congrats on your book. "in a different key, the story of autism." i appreciate both of you being here. keep your tweets coming to you @smerconish. a timely question about donald trump's treatment of women. so good that some thought it was a little too timely and wondered if hillary set the whole thing up? my exclusive interview with brennan leech and her father, a democratic state senator from pennsylvania is next. solutely lw york apartment, but the rent is outrageous. good thing geico offers affordable renters insurance. with great coverage it protects my personal belongings should they get damaged,

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was it amazing campaign moment or merely planned stage craft? at a hillary clinton event in suburban philadelphia, a teenage girl in the audience asked the perfect question to highlight donald trump's mistreatment of women. watch. >> hi, madam secretary. i'm brennan and i'm 15 years old. at my school, images are issued for girls my age. i see the damage donald trump does when he talks about women and how they look. as the first female president, how would you undo some of that damage and help girls understand they are so much more than just what they look like?

>> oh, thank you. thank you. >> the exchange got picked up everywhere, including "new york times" that identified the girl as daughter of a democratic state representative. he's a state senator and said he had helped shape the question but didn't name him or see a reason to further connect the dots. well, as you could well imagine, plenty of media outlets took that fact and ran with it. accused him and his daughter brennan of being paid plants, something the clinton campaign has been accused of in the past. here's megyn kelly's take. >> new questions about whether or not the clinton campaign may be planting questions at her event. >> a little editorializing there with the facial expression. the outrage and backlash overwhelmed the original story and obliterated the content,

part of the process to turn it into a circus but everybody did this without asking the girl or her father. so i'm about to rectify that. joining me now is daelen and brennan. are you an actress? >> look, if you consider a couple of school plays and a video from my friend's mom acting, then, i love theater. i've been passionate about it since i was a kid but in no way was i approached by hillary's campaign or asked the question. she didn't know i was going to ask the question or what i was going to say at all. it was by chance. unfortunately, i never met elizabeth banks either. so completely unrelated and never been involved in both at the same time. >> did dad write it for you? did he prod you in any way? >> not at all. i mean, this is an issue that's really important to me. body image is something really relevant to girls my age and

when a public icon like donald trump is calling women ugly, fat, women, pigs, judging them on how they look, it does affect us. if you think you'll speak in front of the future president, you will have your parents look at it and i practiced it a couple times. he definitely helped me sort of compose myself and fix my wording but other than that, it was my idea and i came up with it on my own. >> daelin, the fact she was able to ask the first question causes most people so say, the whole thing must have been a set-up. >> what happened is, you know, when you do something like this and they open it up for questions, often, people are reluctant to raise hands. the first question is sort of awkward. once they do, you have 20 or 30 people at a time. she opened it up, brennan raised her hand a little bit. she was the only one to raise

her hand. she raised it higher. elizabeth banks, sitting up at the front in the special question for open officials. i wasn't even next to her and elizabeth banks called on her. and simply because she raised her hand. there's no grand conspiracy here. >> this week, there were revelations that steve harvey shared his questions with her in advance with secretary clinton in advance, and so it perpetuates the idea that what we view and think is spontaneous is often not the case. you could see how this story got caught up in the narrative. >> well, yeah, but i wish people like megyn kelly and others, it's mostly the right wing media would have at least fact checked. journalism 101, called and asked us because there was no planning. there's all kinds of stuff in crazy media outlets how we were paid and all that sort of thing. none of that is remotely true. this was a spontaneous question from a girl who cares deeply

about an issue and that's all it was. basic journalism would have uncovered that. did investigate this and found that this wasn't a plant but we have been getting so much sort of outright hate from trump supporters. i've gotten over 30,000 twitter messages, all kinds of stuff on facebook, threats, really horrific suggestions about brennan. i mean, at some point, human decency should take part. >> you lost a friend and part of your mindset in fashions this question. speak to that. >> it's not my place to talk about that and who that person was. i was not authorized to do that. but yes, i mean, it's not just me. it's not just my experience. when i asked that question, i was speaking on behalf of, you know, middle and high schoolers all over the country. you know, it really does damage

us. this is our most insecure time in life and to have someone that we're supposed to look up to be insulting women and as you saw on the tapes today, really just brutal harassment, it's horrible and it does trickle to us. i don't think a lot of adults realize how much it affects their kids and the younger generation. so a lot of the other issues don't affect me, but i know that this issue is really importantly and it's not talked about as much as it should be. so talking to hillary was really important to me and i'm really glad i got the opportunity. >> brennan and daylin leetch, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. still to come, your best and worst tweets and one of my own like this one. let's take a look here. hey, it's his private life. remember, bill and monica? liberal hypocrisy. bill is not on the line this year. that was all relevant at the time. i'll grant you that for sure. because of a headache. ntd

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smerconish, bull [ bleep ] with you. the story of the day is always trashing trump. only on the clinton network. >> he keeps playing the hitting. it he kept generating the material, if not i would talk about the wikileaks. >> people on the left say i'm in the tank for trump, people on the right say you did it get for hillary. full-time for one more, let's see what it is. >> your dad was a smart man, the afraid not sitting down is going up in my office. thank you. >> i have a mental image of it in my dad's office. kick the person responsible for your troubles and you won't sit down for a week. i wonder if he still has it.

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top of the hour, 7:00 p.m. eastern, i'm poppy harlow coming to you live from the campus of washington university. the site of the second presidential debate tomorrow. right here tomorrow at 9:00 p.m. eastern. what a debate it will be. the people behind me are certainly very excited for the debate, but we do begin tonight with breaking news. donald trump