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that nominated him. we've never seen anything quite like this before. trump is expected shortly in panama city beach, florida. after lashing out all day at the organization he needs to raise money, buy ads and get voters to the polls. on top of that he's openly dissing the leaders he'll be counting on if he wins. to many it looks like a scorched earth campaign. when it comes to republican like house speaker paul ryan, who have been condemning trump but still endorsing. president obama joust spoke about that at clinton event in north carolina. >> you can't have it both ways here. you can't repeatedly denounce what is said by someone, and then say but i'm still going to endorse him to be the most powerful person on the planet. and to put them in charge. so -- so i just want to make that point.

because there are still a number of republican elected officials, some of whom i know and i'm sure are embarrassed and say, wow, that was a really terrible thing he said but they can't bring themselves to say i can't endorse this guy. >> president obama on the stump tonight again. so is donald trump. we'll be hearing from him shortly. we've got inside information on what appears to be his new campaign strategy and so much more over the next two hours. we begin with cnn's jim acosta. >> reporter: today another reminder how twitter often donald trump's weapon of choice. his target, house speaker paul ryan who a day earlier announced he'll no longer defend or campaign for trump. trump raged out on twitter. so nice that the shackles have been taken off of me and i can now fight for america the way i want to. and our very weak and in effective leader paul ryan had a bad conference call where his members went wild at his disloyalty.

but ryan is staying above the fray. spokesman for the house speaker saying in a statement paul ryan is focusing in the next month on defeating democrats and all republicans running for office should probably do the same. for now trump is holding his core group of advisors. new jersey governor chris christy who skipped the debate, finally meerjed after the the fire storm ignited by trump's tape gate. >> automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. like a magnet. >> to concede mistakes were made. >> i would have done it much differently. but i do think he's sorry and embarrassed about it. no question in my mind. i was there when he found about it. and there is no question he's embarrassed by it. but i think he should have been much more direct and focused on just saying i'm sorry and only i'm sorry. >> even as another key supporter dr. ben carson is trying to downplay the scandal. >> as i was growing up people were always trying to talk about

their sexual conquests. >> and rudy giuliani made light of the tape in knocking hillary clinton. >> boy that is as phony as -- i can't say the word because i have to nice. i might say it back in the locker room. >> falling behind in the polls, trump is ramping up rhetoric openly engaging the idea of jailing clinton if he's elected. former republican attorney general michael mooukaceae, highly critical, blasted trump for that threat. asing it would be like a banana republic. >> in response to trump's declaration thaes now unshackled the trump advisor quipped the gop nominee had been this undisciplined from the beginning. a a source close to ryan trump is on a an ego trip that could very well split the party in two. >> whether this splits the party is one thing. another fear is what it might do up and down the ticket, damaging gop chances of holding the senate or house. more on that from manu raju. >> reporter: the list of

republicans bailing on donald trump is growing, threatening the republican hold on congress. today senator pat toomy, lark out at trump. >> i've been openly very critical of policy positions donald trump has taken. >> and other senators revoking support for trump in the aftermath of the vulgar video where the billionaire boasts about groping women. >> when mr. trump attacks women and demeans the women in our nation and in our society, that is a point where i just have to part company. >> a new poll finds democrats holding a 7 point advantage. when voters choose a party, they want to control congress. that is the largest edge democrats have had in three years. to win back the senate democrats need to pick up at least four seats. including the wisconsin seat held by republican ron johnson who has distanced himself from

trump. >> obviously we've got two people atop the ticket. flawed messengers for whichever side. >> and in the house democrats must pick up 30 seats to retake at majority. so they are doing everything they can to tie their gop -- to trump. like in this new ad, targeting miami area congressman carlos curbelo. >> but he tells cnn he wants nothing to do with trump. >> i'm not feeling better about the presidential campaign at all. it seems like every discussion is who to trust least and who lies more. so it is a shame. >> north carolina senator richard burr is running in one of the country's closest races and he's concluded it makes sense to back trump. despite the nominee's crude remarks about women. >> i don't think this is something that we dwell on after somebody has asked for forgiveness. >> privately senate majority leader mitch mcconnell agreeing

with speaker paul ryan, advising his colleagues to run away from trump if that will help them politically. publicly, even mcconnell is keeping his distance. >> if you're interested in the presidential election you might as well go ahead and leave because i don't have any observation to make about it. >> i'm joined by manu raju. any gop candidates getting backlash for not sporting donald trump? >> absolutely anderson. that is the concern. a lot of republicans consider whether or not to revoke their support of donald trump. there are a number of trump supporters in their state that they need to come out on election day. so when a republican candidate like joe heck of nevada, running for that senate seat being vacated by harry reed suddenly comes out and says he's no longer supporting donald trump. he all of a sudden is hearing a lot of blowback from his own base. over the last several days a lot of people threatening not to

vote for joe heck in the nate race because he's pulled back his endorsement. that is why a number of republican senators are still siding with donald trump. that includes roy blunt of missouri in a difficult race. and richard burr as well as in north carolina. it shows the challenge so many candidates have as they weigh what to do about donald trump because at the end of the day they need his supporters' backing on election day. >> manu raju, thanks. so given all that what exactly is trump strategy right now? what one of the best source reporters on what goes on inside trump tower, wall street joounl senior writer joins me right now. your reporting is always spot on and really really good. >> thank you. >> so what is the strategy? what is the trump strategy? >> well it was clear everybody got the part that he is firing up his base. he has gone back to the person he was during the primary. >> says he's unshackled. >> unshackled. i'm unshackled. i don't care about these leading republicans.

never liked me anyway. okay? everybody got that. i think the big reveal is the second part of his comeback strategy is he is trying to go after hillary in a way never seen before. and the goal is to press the democrat vote. >> depress the vote on the democratic side. >> exactly. so he's going to make her so unlikable, so messed up. he thinks it is a shaky coalition that she has. that she doesn't really have a solid handle on the african americans and millennials and things like that and make her so much unlikable than she already is that he will suppress the democratic turnout. and he knows his base is fired up and enthusiastic and thinks hers is not. so what everybody has been missing, he can't win with his base. it will only get him 40%. he needed the independents and the suburban women who now may be turning against them.

this strategy shows he's given up on the reaching out. so what's doing is he'll get his base and he's hoping he can suppress her turnout. >> how does he seem to you? you have been covering him for a long time. in the tweets he, you know, seems to be kind of rejuvenated if that's the right word. >> it is exactly the right word. i spoke with him saturday morning i said you are in crisis. he said no i'm not, i'm getting tons of e-mails and calls. everybody is supportive. but the people inside his campaign said when he was at debate prep he was as gloomy as the rain on the windows in new york city. but then people started gathering in trump tower so he went down in the afternoon and saw the people gathered and saw him. and he came up like a changed man they said. he said i don't care about those republicans anyway. it was never about them. it was about the people. and then he gathered up the papers and went to his penthouse and the advisor said well we wanted to do more debate prep. but the most important thing is he feels e like he can win and

come back. >> and he came into the debate with fire. >> he was loaded for bear. and he had his strategy set. i'm going to fire up my base and i'm going to show hillary clinton is a two-face member of the establishment. and what she says in e-mails and all that in private and public are two different things. >> so who has his ear now? kellyanne conway? steve bannon? >> the two closest people to him in running his campaign are i think stephen bannon, the ceo of the campaign. and the gerald kushner who is the son-in-law married to his daughter ivanka who's always been the apple of his eye. i think those two are closest to him. kellyanne and also the campaign manager she's very good with him but i think those two are giving him the advice. and the top advisors when the leaked video came out about, you know, kissing women and all, they decided on friday night, now is the time to get aggressive. and that is when the strategy of the four women to show up at the debate was hatched.

>> i saw in that pre debate it wasn't really a press conference, just sort of an appearance with the women. steve bannon was off to the side. so he was in the room when that was happening. >> they had this lined up for the first debate but they kept it in reserve of. they didn't think they needed it. remember going into the first debate he was tied with hillary clinton and then he went down. so then they felt we need it now. and they did it. >> and pulled the trigger. stay with us. i want to continue the discussion. fascinating reporting focuses on the growing challenge that any new donald trump faces. are they insurmountable? john king has answers on that next. and later more attacks from the trump campaign. look at smoke and see if it comes with any real fire when we continue.

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get organized at voya.com. donald trump speaking in florida shortly. he's behind there but close. down by double digits. the same national polling shows a slight bump in data gathered after sunday's debate. larger question, can any candidate trailing so badly actually turn things around? john king is here looking for answers by the numbers. we often don't say national polls don't matter as much this close to the election but what are the numbers showing.

>> it doesn't matter much when one or two point race but matters hire. the first two days of this sample when the tape came out talk about the groping women. hillary clinton opened 11 point lead. 46 to 35. that is astounding. then the debate, helped donald trump a little bit. nine point lead. republicans came back to trump after the debate. still nine points with four weeks to go. at this point this 2012 mitt romney was up one point. we know how this race turned out. this is a huge problem for donald trump. a lot of people think this means game over. >> with both candidates campaigning in florida, it's obviously important for both parties. where do trump and clinton stand there? >> they are both there because it is a very competitive state right now as it was in 2012. the closest in 2012 between

obama and romney. clinton with a three point lead in florida. that is within the margin of error so you would call which a statistical dead heat. this poll was taken before the debate and before the tape came out. so we need to see updated and see if it moved but clinton with slight lead beforehand. this is a very competitive state. hillary clinton trails among men to donald trump. she has about the same size lead among women. so you have your gender split there. this is why clinton has the lead. florida is a moderate state among independents. and the you see among moderates she has an 11 point lead. a centrist state in florida. if you are winning the middle, independents and moderates you can win florida. >> if trump is to pull off a comeback, can he do it without florida? >> no. can i show you some math? i'll give you some math, it would be crazy to get him there without it. we have clinton at 272. that would be winning. donald trump at 196. the gold states are the toss up

state, including florida. say donald trump won them all. wins florida, north carolina, ohio and nevada. that gets him in play. 264 to 272. then he would just have to find six more. gives him a lot of options. win colorado, virginia, win new hampshire and something else. but if you take florida, it is 29 electoral vote, anderson. if you take that off the map, if hillary clinton wins florida it puts her over 300. then it is almost impossible. can donald trump do it? sure. he'd have to win pennsylvania and michigan. or he would have to win colorado, virginia, wisconsin and new hampshire. see what i'm getting at? florida gives you 29 in one big package. if you can't get those, very hard to find it somewhere else. and unlikely. and florida is more conservative than all these states. if donald trump is losing florida he's losing michigan, pennsylvania, colorado and probably also losing ohio. >> john king, thanks. let's bring in our panel. new york anchor and long time

trumpologist. errol louis and clinton supporters christine gwynn and paul loeg la. also with us is kayleigh mcenany and joseph pirelli. joe is new york city councilman, monica langley back from the wall street journal. based on the reporting, this idea of two prong strategy of trump trying to depress democratic turn out, does that concern you? >> no. i don't want to be too optimistic. i hope he's not watching. he's doing another show on the comedy channel. he pretends he doesn't watch cnn but he does. >> he needs to reach out. and is instead he's going try to drive down. if he starts -- continues not starts attacks against hillary, that will drive up democratic turnout. nothing unites the people of earth like a threat from mars. there are younger sanders

supporters still resistant to hillary. if he starts going after her personally they will leap to her defense. this is a strategy for a blow out. i've always said it is going to be close. i think it is going to be close. i think monica's reporting is right. always has been but he's charting a path to his own self-destruction. >> i totally agree with that. i think he's basically given up. the reporting is clear. he realizes he can't branch out. he can't pick up any of the communities he needed to pick up. so now he's going to triple down on attacking hillary over and over again and i have seen it in the calls that i've gotten from people who were like i'm going vote for her but i'm not enthusiastic who are now like ready to run to the poll, call their friends. this is going to boost our turnout and help us with communities where we haven't done as well. >> do you think it is that he's given up? or do you think he believes this is a good idea? >> he's a true believer. and he feels so free to be

himself right now. and he has wanted to come at bill and hillary from day one. one of his advisers this morning, i was over in trump tower, he says we are the only ones who have ever gone of -- after the clinton machine. none of the republicans have ever been brave enough to do it because they have had the city locked up. so they believe they can do it. and he's walked away from a lot of the groups that have been not -- not really amenable to going with trump and that he was trying a little bit to get. they still think maybe he the get a few of the suburban women or independent women by showing that hillary clinton enabled her husband and getting the millennials who never had heard of bill clinton as a potential person who, you know, was -- >> do you see it as a gamble this idea of trying to suppress democratic turnout. if you are listening to democrats here they say that is

goenling to embolden the democrats. >> partly yes and partly no. the nbc poll, the turnout model assumes 8% more democrats will turn out than republicans. gi question that because i look back at 2012 where five points more showed up and obama one. or the reverse. and when bush won it was -- i think that number is bogus. if that's flawed and donald trump can push down that number of democrats that is a good thing. but here is where it is risky. he should focus on the issues. what we hear is neither of these candidates are telling me how they are going to better my life. i think mike pence did a nice job balancing that with criticizing hillary clinton. donald trump did a better job too but the heavier issues -- >> so joe, does it concern you to see donald trump spending time going after speaker ryan and other republicans?

>> well it will concern some people he's going after speaker ryan and also concerns some that ryan is abandoning trump. only 1 out of 10 republicans are saying donald trump shouldn't be our nominee. if you go back to 2012 and "new york times" exit polls. one out of ten republicans didn't vote for mitt romney. and same with obama. so the voters are lined up behind trump. and i think someone like trump who's in texas today raising money for the whole republican party: i think the question has to go back to paul ryan and say aren't you causing the problem yourself. >> errol does going after ryan and other republicans, you could also make the argument that fires up his base and emboldens them to come out. >> it absolutely does. fighting against the establishment. democratic or republican has been part of the trump brand from day one. for him to now say i've got the

shackles off, that is what his base wants to hear. we should also point out what paul ryan's support is worth is questionable. look at wisconsin four years ago. when paul ryan was in fact on the ticket and couldn't pull it off then. so what was he going to do this year that trump really needs? an open question. i should also say i think negative campaigning is not done because it doesn't work. it is done because it does work. it does suppress the vote. it does get people so disgusted. some of those moderates, undecided the millennials and others who will say look, they are both so awful i'm going to vote for my county commissioner and then i'm going to go home. it's a risky strategy. it is not a proven successful strategy but it is a logical strategy. >> it is a strategy to fracture his party and unite mine. this is in the data today from the atlantic poll. non college educated, high school only white women. trump's base is high school educated white people.

he's been stronger with men than women. but hillary now has gone on high school only educated to a tie. high school educated white women, a tie. trump's winning high school educated white men by 43 points. he needs to win the women by 43 points just to be in the race. it is a very narrow coalition. high school educated white men. high school educated white women. now he's driven his so vote so far down with women meanwhile college educated whites which obama lost, hillary is winning in this poll by 20. >> that's the first time it would be i think ever the republicans have lost that constituent. >> ever in the history of polling. >> this is the history of polling. talk more about issues. talk more about voters lives than his ore hillary's, that is the secret to this thing. >> the way he does fire up his base is through his nationalist populous theme, which is that

theme based on the issues. the illegal immigration. the jobs and the bad trade deals. he's hitting those areas to fire up his base. so that is -- he still stuck with and he thinks that is what his base wants to hear. >> we'll hear more from the panel. coming up the latest on the e-mails leaked from wikileaks. trump campaign saying it shows conclusion in the investigation of clinton's e-mails. does that hold water? we'll look at that next. ot supp. the dr. scholl's kiosk maps your feet and recommends our custom fit orthotic to stabilize your foundation and relieve lower-back, knee or foot pain from being on your feet. find your nearest kiosk at drscholls.com. also available from dr. scholl's: heavy duty support for lower back pain, lightens the impact of every step.

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a new chapter of the long and winding political story of the clintons and the gores. al gore and hillary campaigned together in florida.

where gore lot of the white house by a super close margin. meanwhile donald trump continues to blast clinton over e-mails. wikileaks is posting thousands of e-mails from clinton. the latest about a court hearing involving clinton's e-mails and hearing that was matter of public record but the trump campaign says is proof of something very shady. our senior correspondent takes a look. >> reporter: the latest batch of hacked e-mails purportedly from clinton campaign chairman john podesta and the trump campaign has seized on this one. it is from hillary clinton's campaign spokesman, a person who used to work at department of justice. trump campaign says this e-mail proves clinton's camp was in contact with the department of justice, just as justice was investigating hillary clinton. doj folks inform me there is a status hearing in this case this morning fallon writes to clinton staffers so we could have a window into the judge's thinking about this

proposed production schedule as quickly as today. the e-mail concerns a civil lawsuit about the pending release of clinton's state department e-mails. trump's campaign immediately pounced. today's report that clinton's campaign was in communication with the obama department of justice on the e-mail investigation shows a level of collusion which calls into question the entire investigation into her private server. the e-mail doesn't specify who at the department of justice fallon was in contact with. other media organizations including cnn were already aware of the hearing that he's talking about. it was a matter of public record. possibly more damaging in the recent e-mail dump are what appear to be excerpts of hillary clinton's paid speeches to wall street executives. clinton has refused to release the transcripts of these speeches. and according to the hacked e-mails this may be why. a passage where she contemplates just how to regulate wall street reform in a paid speech to wall street bankers. there is nothing magic about regulations.

clinton reportedly says too much is bad. too little is bad. how do you get the golden key. how do you figure out what works? and the people who know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry. it is one of several passages in her private speeches where clinton mentions her long time friendship and financial support with wall street. contrast that with how she speaks about wall street on the campaign trail as she did this past february. >> wall street can never be allowed to threaten main street again. no bank can be too big to fail no executive to powerful to jail. >> the hacked e-mails also show a very different view on trade when hillary clinton speaks in private and when speaks in public. speaking in private before a brazilian bank she says my driem is a hemisphere ek common market with open trade and open borders. we have to resist protectionism

and barriers to market access and to trade. in april before a public gathering of trade unions, her message was different. >> i will stand with you. i will have your back. and i will stop dead in its tracks any trade deal that hurts you or hurts america. but i believe we need a president who doesn't just complain about trade. we need a president who knows how to compete and win for american workers. >> the clinton campaign's response to all this is to blame russian hackers. and without evidence insinuate donald trump and vladimir putin are somehow engineering a campaign strategy. the clinton statement reads in part the timing shows you that even putin knows trump had a bad weekend and a bad debate. it should concern every american that russia is willing to engage in such hostile acts in order to help donald trump become president of the united states.

>> andrew joins us now. has the justice department or administration commented. >> white house spokesman josh ernest said he wasn't going to comment on what he quote as stolen e-mails of a private citizen. remember these are in effect john podesta's private e-mails that have been hacked. but as it pertains to the justice department and the clinton campaign ernest did tell reporters the attorney general and the fbi director have made clear the investigation of secretary clinton's use of a private e-mail server was conducted without regard to partisan politics. that is according to the white house spokesman, anderson. >> drew griffin. thanks very much. back with the panel. errol. how big a deal do you think these are? we don't know who was allegeedly talking to this guy. but certainly understandable why trump supporters would say this doesn't sound right. >> he has some questions to answer. it is entirely possible the way it was described maybe he saw it on cnn. he says in the e-mail well i

heard from somebody. a lot of parts of the judicial system are really intended for there to be transparence and collaboration. saying there is going to be a status hearing on the date is not secret information. it is when people are supposed to show up in court. so i don't think that in particular is all that damaging substantively. politically, can the trump people sort of take and it use it as some sort of example of a rigged system? yes. they've already started. and i think we'll see more of that. >> as a trump supporter does it seem particularly damaging to you? >> that part raises a lot of questions as errol says but to me the most damaging revelations have been what shae says behind closed doors. imagine at this time last year when she was running against bernie sanders if she had said she was for open borders and open trade and i have private positions in public -- and. >> and inside the financial industry are the ones -- >> correct. and to me the second biggest point is there is in idea a

surrounding the clintons there is a double standard of justice. the clintons get one and private citizens the other. today the e-mails showed she'd released sources and methods information -- a private citizen and navy seal who did the same thing was under criminal investigation and had to pay 7 million dollars to get the investigation to go away. >> no idea what you're talking about. she didn't release any information how bin laden was killed. it's been reported ad infinitum. including books like the one you're referring to like the back by purportedly the member of seal team six. this is the false equivalence that we are in. in a normal election this could be a huge problem for hillary clinton. the revelation. people always wonder what are candidates like. >> and also the speeches. she's been avoiding releasing them for the entire. >> yeah. of course. because they are politically damaging. duh. i'm sorry. it's like stating the obvious. but trump though has now been

revealed behind closed doors to talking about -- bragging about sexual assaulting women. so it is hard to get spun up about hillary having a different position on trade when we just learned mr. -- >> if that tape hadn't come out with you be more concerned? >> yes. >> bill clinton said add nauseam when he was president when he was caught doing in the oval office that was my private life it didn't effect my public policy. donald trump said something very bad. no doubt about. ben carson said he prayed for forgiveness before he went out on the stage and he should be forgiven. but these policies definitely will effect american lives. if she is for open borders and open trade. >> does anyone with a pulse and functional brain think what hillary said is more problematic than what trump said? >> yes. >> really? come on. >> -- i love you guys but you

are all sitting there with your eyes close asked not seeing what's fundamentally flawed about these e-mails and the wikileaks and instead of opening your eyes you are hoping the public keeps their eyes closed as well. and this is problem with a lot of this. it is not just doj. maybe brian fallen, just in itself maybe he didn't do anything illegal but take in the context of the former president now meeting the attorney general on a plane. there are broader things at play. and these wikileaks just serve to confirm them. not make them baseless. >> let's step back for a second. we're talking about as it relates to the doj issue. brian fallon passing on information that is public information. it is as if he's passing on the associated press day book for city hall what's in the city record. he's alertd herting his superiors to something that's public information. there is no corruption. he's merely being a press guy

saying heads up. this could be in the press. wait wait wait. two, she said the industry she wants to regulate should be consulted. well of course they should. you shouldn't throw regulations on somebody without talking to them, understanding how it works. you know that at city hall, joe. whenever we -- whoa whoa. when we were doing things around the banking industry in new york. we talked to the banks they hated the bill. they sued it but we talked to them and our colleagues talked to them let's actually be clear. i actually wish and i say this as a huge hillary supporter, that horrible tape never came out. because people are talking about it and it is affecting people. and it is affecting people profoundly in a way that is hurtful to them. -- but -- >> no i'm not. >> hillary clinton is talking about open borders. i get she's not saying -- i mean

i assume she's not saying the mexican border should be open. she says publicly i want to increase the number of syrian refugees and in private -- >> hold on. >> -- as a reporter who wrote my -- a different one on saturday when i called donald trump and he said there is zero chance i'm going to quit. so we posted that story. it was the first interview with him. and so it went out. it got more hits that day when we didn't have a newspaper than we have in a long time. i got -- my e-mail was flooded with the let's say thousand responses within three hours. i have to tell you in case someone was going to leak me something or tell me something, i dutifully went through a thousand responses. 800 of those were for donald trump. they said what he said was horrible. but i don't care what he did privately. i wanted to know what's going to effect me as a voter. it was obviously unscientific

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as we've reported house speaker paul ryan says he's not going defend donald trump anymore. trump talked about that on fox news. here is what he said. >> we'll we've been having a problem. we have millions and millions of followers. we set records in the primaries. we have a group of people that want to see america be great again. and paul ryan, you know, open borders and amnesty and lots -- and bad budgets by the way. very very bad budgets. frankly the only one that obama negotiates well with the s paul ryan with the budgets because that's the only negotiation he can >> all right -- >> the fact is that i think we should get support and we don't get the support from guy likes paul ryan. he had a conference call yesterday with congressman, with hundreds of them. and they practically rioted against him on the phone. one person stuck up for him.

i'm just tired off nonsupport and tired of -- this happens all the time. if you sneeze he calls up and announces. isn't that a terrible thing. i don't want his support. i don't care about his support. i want to win for the people. because hillary clinton, she's a disaster. >> and monica, what do you make of what he said as a reporter? >> it is getting even with paul ryan. you know when donald trump is upset with someone for taking him on he punches back. he's always been doing that. we saw it through the primary and we're seeing it now. and he may be doing something to hurt paul ryan. paul ryan did have a mini rebellion on that phone call which donald trump just mentioned and donald trump has been threatening that if a lot of these leaders come at him his supporters will come back at them. and there is some truth to that. the republican base is loyal right now. he has more of the republican base than a lot of these leaders have right now. >> kailee, do you think it's a

good idea for donald trump to be going after the highest ranking republican in the u.s. government? >> yes. because look, i don't think this is going after him or getting even. paul ryan used the moment. donald trump had an amazing debate. best one he's given hands down. paul ryan reacted to that by stepping on the moment. and deeply frustrating to me. and to several of our colleagues here at cnn who also support trump. and jeff lord put out a column an open letter to ryan. it's time to leave. paul ryan was understudy to jack kemp and values those same things. but a sentiment i've expressed and the rush limbaugh and jeff lord has expressed is there are some people in the party who look at it as the country club. the washington elite. they don't care what the voters think because they care more about preserving the country club than preserving the republican voting base which is in line with donald trump and not paul ryan.

>> i assume will say paul ryan is make g a principled stand of his abhorrence of what he heard donald trump said. >> and i said the same thing. i don't see the long game for paul ryan. maybe donald trump loses the election but within six months a year we're going to be having a hearings on a supreme court nominee presumptively under president clint and that will be the most liberal judge of our lifetime. and paul ryan had the opportunity. instead of helping, why did you hurt the cause? >> quick break. coming up, tape of donald trump boasting about what was sexual assault has cost him the support of many republican politicians. just talking about that. but most loyal supporters have a different take, even women. hear what they're saying in dallas. ♪

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more breaking news tonight. here's what president obama said a short time ago about the tape of donald trump from 2005, boosting about sexual assault. >> you don't have to be a husband or a father to hear what we heard just a few days ago and say, that's not right. you just have to be a decent human being to say, that's not right. >> well, since the release of the tape, dozens of republican politicians and lawmakers, as we've said, have jumped off the trump train. some of them didn't support trump to begin with. new polling by "the wall street journal" and nbc shows trump now lags hillary clinton 25 percentage points among white women with college degrees, the group that mitt romney won in 2012. that said, not all women see trump's comments through the

same lens. randi kaye tonight reports. >> reporter: they dined over salad and lemonade and dished about donald trump. >> it doesn't sound like his voice at all. i listened to it four times. >> reporter: these women are all members of texas well for trump, and all longtime supporters of the republican nominee. it seems not even the leaked tape on which trump is heard bragging about grabbing women's genitals will change that. >> how many of you are willing to write this off as locker room banter, as donald trump says? >> i think -- >> all of you? >> i have two brothers, my dad, military family. i've heard words worse. i've seen things worse. the word is a little derogatory. i wish, if he had said it, i wish he had said it a different way. but you know what, he wasn't saying it to females. he was saying it to men. locker room bus -- >> i would be upset if a man said that in my presence.

i do find the words offensive, but that's locker room talk. that's the boy's club. >> you don't think it says anything about him as a person or what he truly believes about women, speaking this way? >> no, i don't. it's just a man being a man in a man's world, talking to men. >> reporter: at first, some of these women feared the tape would bring down trump's campaign. but once they heard it was more than a decade old, they thought it no longer mattered. >> lori, should he be judged on something that happened more than a decade ago? >> i don't think so. he was a nonpolitician, not in the spotlight, not being scrutinized. >> reporter: only a couple in the group said they were actually offended. but none of these women believed he'd ever make those same comments today. >> he understands the jeopardy and risk that would be put in place and he is truly out here to make a difference for our country. >> so is this kind of a joke to some of you? >> it's a drastic and we should really move on.

>> and you don't even care about it, right? it doesn't even register? >> no. >> this group preferred to talk about how trump plans to secure the borders, lower their taxes, and defeat isis. but the conversation never strayed far from trump and women. >> you all think that he respects women? is that fair to say? >> absolutely. >> if you can't be respectful of women, you can't raise daughters like he has raised. and those daughters, those girls are the most self-respected women that i have ever seen on tv. >> reporter: why then, i asked, would trump throw howard stern to say disrespectful things about ivanka, even though stern meant it as a comment. >> can i say this? a piece of ass. >> yeah. >> what if that was your daughter? would you be okay with that? >> i would not like that, not at all. >> but i have to look at the core of the man, the individual. >> even the first woman on a presidential ballot, these ladies have their minds made up.

>> of course, that bothers me, but is it going to make me lean towards hillary clinton? absolutely not. >> this is the worst dirt they can dig up on this man, then i think he deserves my vote. >> randi joins me live now from dallas. did you get a chance to talk with those women how they feel about the comments trump made about alicia machado, or is that sort of old news at this point? >> no, no, we talked about all of that and more, anderson. i asked them what they thought of the comments of him calling her miss piggy because of her weight gain, and once again, they defend him. they said, she signed a contract, was supposed to look a certain way, and she gained weight. in fact, from their point of view, he tried to help her. he got her a trainer and a gym membership and thought he was trying to do good for her. and when i asked them, what about the fact when he said she ate everything in sight, really doubling down on his initial comments, they said, maybe she did. there was one former dallas cowboys cheerleader in that

group and she said, i was hired a long time ago to maintain an image and present an image and i had to maintain that image. she said miss universe should have done the same. they really do respect donald trump. they were quick to point out that he has a woman as his campaign manager. they think that's very important and he has their vote. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. more much ahead in the second hour of "360," including what donald trump says tonight and how his campaign is doing now that he's decided to run against republican party leaders, and not just hillary clinton, his campaign manager joins us ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides.

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